Here’s an excerpt from the recent UFC 84: “Ill Will” pre-fight press conference call during which BJ Penn questions (antagonizes is perhaps a better word) Sean Sherk directly about his use of steroids:
It doesn’t get any better that … we’re finally just one week away.
(Thanks to MMAmania.com “Roy” for the assist.)
May 17th, 2008
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Nice gotta love BJ
Shit, if you listen closly to the interview BJ sounds like he’s running out of breath while he’s talking…(cardio?) I give credit to all the BJ fans, they sure talk about him like he’s an MMA GOD. Like I said before I hope theres no mass suicides when he’s looses to Sherk.
The audio doesn’t work anymore…
One thing I give credit for, to all the BJ fans is that you guys treat him like a MMA GOD. Like I said before I hope theres no mass suicides when he looses.
Shit! if you listen closly BJ is running out of breath just talking…..(cardio?) I think BJ keeps talking about the steroids, so theres an excuse if he looses.
I got $400 on BJ Penn
and a $48 parlay: Penn/unders!!!!
BJ is a badass, I put 500 on BJ
I put $1,000 on Sherk!!! BJ was running out of breath just talking in that interview.
Yeah, we heard you say it 3 other times. lol
Oh my fault, it’s cause I thought my comment wasn’t being posted. Shit it’s been an hour since I wrote that shit.
JV, those BJ luver’s aren’t gonna let u forget that u bet 1k on Sherk if/when he loses. As the saying goes: “RU willing to put your money where ur mouth is?” Definitely sounds like it…Gud Luck!
I appreciate the good luck. I just can’t stand BJ, and I think Sherk has got alot more chance to win than people are giving him credit for. And if Sherk does win I wonder how all the BJ fans will take it? And I won’t let them forget it.
what site are you betting on? I want to pick the over for ortiz mach fight…
SS will do good against BJ. This will go decision and SS will win. He’s too fast for BJ. Did you see this guy training????????????? He’s a MONSTER. One week baby!!!
Yea, I wonder why and how he is such a monster.
You gotta love BJ for calling him out like that. BJ is very principled and has a natural aversion against cheaters (aka steroid-users). I hope that will fire BJ up even more.
I’m not counting Sherk out, he’s physically (for obvious reasons) a challenge/threat for any 155lbs opponent, but I think BJ will make him tap out.
See that’s what I hate. People look at Sherk and think he has to be on something and when he has a borderline nandrolone test result they all pile on. he was not given a fair hearing and it sucks that after all he has sacrificed for this sport, when he was effing bankrupt yet still fighting for the love of it, is forgotten and a guy who assaulted a cop and kept a freaken air choke on 3 seconds longer than he should had is acting like some kind of role model. I don’t believe sherk has or is taking any kind of steroid.
“borderline” just means he didn’t quite time the cycle right. Sherk has actually convinced himself, like any great liar does!
I couldn’t AGREE with you more, what’s wrong with the world today ?
Gregg summed it up quite well. BJ nuthuggers don’t want to hear logic, they just want to yell “WWAAAR BJ!!” at the of their lungs, plug their ears and run into a a corner screaming like a child, anything to ignore logic.
BJ has a lot of balls calling anyone else a cheater considering in every one of his fights he gouges his opponent’s eyes or does some other dirty tactic.
thank you for writting all that down for me.
bj wants to sound bad ass and rightous by saying he hates cheaters and all that crap but all hes doing is making himself look stupid(er).
So you think BJ comes in and gouges people in the eyes intentionally, what other dirty tactic? A natural level of nan. is around 6 Sherk tested around 12, not a big difference but to high to be natural, so either way he was out of line.
in everyone of his fights????????????? GSP (and i still think it was a solid punch) and Hughes for sure . . . Name one more dude! You Sherk huggers are the ones that dont listen to logic and reason! Name one other fight or one other dirt trick tacti that BJ uses, came one just one and shut me up. Your boys the cheater and its ben proven, huh?
yeah… but a guy that goes around assaulting cops (and then lying about why he did it) and holding on to chokes when their opponent has tapped out shouldn’t really be giving lessons about good sportsmanship and sticking to the rules…
Adam don’t even worry about it, we will win this whole fued come the 24th. We BOTH know Penn is gonna win, so why let these dudes who have been watching for 2 months get to you? I know it takes a lot of patience but in less then a week now it will all be over, and we will have won.
be specific, sucker punching a cop then running away only to be tackled by the same cop he hit.
you are wrong. heavy training can increase nan levels in a big way. there have been other cases where athletes have been banned for high nandrolone levels and after an invesitgation they were acquitted because athletes who overtrain make more of it naturally. Nobody trains as hard as sherk nor has his weird diet. I think he just had a natural spike in his nan blood level.
He heavy trains always, a training machine, Right? So why werent they always that high, a 10 year career and never that high before and i bet theyll never be that high again.
I’m not saying Sherk did or didn’t… but I’m saying there is enough questions to raise doubt in anyone’s opinion about whether Sherk did or didn’t.
1. Sherk passed a polygraph 3 times. I don’t know who submitted that lie detector test.
2. Sherk had bloodwork done showed he was clean. I don’t know when he had that bloodwork done or who did it?
3. Fighters were tested before Sherk and were found to be ‘positive’ the vial was cleaned, but however the vial wasn’t tested to see if traces of steroids were still in it.
4. Sherk said it may be something in his supplements. I don’t know what Sherk’s been taking, Nandrolone substances are banned from US products since around 2005. However, suppliers are always finding ways to get new unbanned substances into their “supplements.” However, I never heard anything more about the results of his supplements being tested.
It would have to be a lot left in the vial seeable to the naked eye to raise his levels that much, not some microscopic amount. AND where did you hear about all this, the lie tests, second blood tests, etc etc . . . From Sean Sherks mouth, he says those things and never produces the proof of what hes saying, he could say he took ten blood tests after and it wouldnt matter to me unless he also gives a website where we can see this proof without his helping words, you know, see it with my own eys. Put out a website, a phone number, a lab address, or just name the place for christ sakes. All he does is say ” i took test, all sorts of test, they prove im right . . . ” What is that supposed to mean to me and other MMA fans. IF he named a lab or website we can go to and i went there and an eployee that works there or administerd the tests or results substantiated that SHerk even came into there business let alone took any tests and past them i would be satisfied beyond beliefe! BUT he does not do this, his lawyer does not do this, no lab says it on there own just to help the guy out, no documents have been produced by anyone associated with Sean Sherk, even Dana says he believes Sean for a lot of reasons but none of those reasons are because he took any tests after or had any blood work done after or urine. Sean hasnt even shown proof of these phantom tests to Dana, his boss. Just show me one website that shows any proof of what Sean Sherk claims because he is the only one who claims it. No one else says these things but Sean, he LOVES that freedom of speech! You cant slander but you can lie as long as its about yourself. PROVE ME WRONG . . .
This evidence brief was submitted to the CSAC, made public by Sherk’s lawyer and Sherk and publicly addressed by CSAC Executive Officer Armando Garcia. Attorney’s can be held liable for false statements. It would be stupid to fuck with the CSAC with public lies.
Of course what I’m going to write here is from a secondary source as is almost all information, which we all form our opinions from.
1. CSAC does not accept polygraphs as evidence. Don’t have any info about lie detector test or companies that administer them. It ends up being irrelevant.
2. Sherk submitted blood tests, however, the time period in which they were taken could have allowed Sherk to cycle off, easy to refute this test. It ends up being irrelevant.
3. The vial was not tested to see if traces of steroids were still in it. This is Sherk’s argument, that Quest Diagnostics is at fault, but one the CSAC will say operates a perfect process, end of story. It ends up being irrelevant.
4. One supplement tested from Sherk’s independent, Xyience Xtreme Joint Formula, tested positive for a testosterone booster. FYI, Lorenzo and Frank Fertitta, own a major stake of Xyience. In any case the testosterone booster in Xyience isn’t something CSAS tests for.
- CSAC Guidelines and the FAQ on their website cite studies warning that over-the-counter supplements could contain traces of steroids that could inevitably lead to a positive test. It’s up to the fighters to know what they are putting in their bodies. It ends up being irrelevant.
So, in contrary to u, I do believe Sherk did do all those things he stated to try to prove his innocence. However, they are all refuted, HOWEVER, (lol) YOU can get a positive test from over the counter supplements… EVEN the CSAC states you can, but it’s your own damn fault.
I like Sherk, I like BJ even more. I try to do a reasonable amount of research, before hanging someone in a questionable position. There’s reason to believe either side… I’m just saying I’m not sure that Sherk knowingly took something to double his nano level. I don’t know how others can be soooo’ positive and adamant with an opinion and not even understanding the process he & CSAC went through.
Great indepth post Thorazine.
ty Gord, should’ve posted it earlier…
yeah… BJ is very principled… that’s why he pokes GSP in the eye and then pounds on him for an entire round…
then loses to hughes and makes excuses about it…
BJ just likes to run his mouth… he’s a poor sportsman and a bitch… just a pity he’s so damn talented too…
Are you saying he meant to poke GSP? thats the most stupid thing i’ve ever heard.
I don’t think he poked GSP on purpose, but I agree with pretty much everything else that he said. He did make excuses for losing to Hughes. It was a fight, the reason his rib broke was because Hughes broke it. He does run his mouth and he is a poor sportsman. He is also very talented. All those things are true.
I would love to see Sherk win this fight.
no he didnt mean to poke him… but just like trigg kept beating down on hughes when he kneed him in the b*lls BJ just kept pounding on him… fine… it’s the ref’s call so all good… but since then - and immediately after the fight - he just kept running his mouth about how GSP was more beat up than him and he felt he won etc…
eddie bravo clearly gave the match 2 rounds to 1 to GSP… BJ is just a b*tch and always makes excuses and complains…
and the hughes excuse was just ridiculous… you broke your rib IN A FIGHT… you lost the fight… just admit hughes was better on the night when he crucifixed you and beat you down and take it like a man… but he actually goes on abt hughes being a p*ssy and stuff…
he’s gifted fighter but he is by no means an ambassador for the sport… BJ is a b*tch…
He broke his rib when he took hughes’s back from gaurd, what are you talking about, when did Hughes break it???? It was broken going into the third, and BJ owned the last two minutes of the second, so Hughes broke it beofre that but BJ was still able to pull off that move to take Hughes’s back, come on, BJ broke it attempting that move, thats why he didnt completely get Hughes’s back and didnt finish him off. GET REAL, and do some research. Youve got to be retarded to think Hughes would win the rubber match.
In addition Bj hardly ever mentions his broken rib as an excuse for losing to Hughes, even mths after, the hospital report came out and people wanted to know what happened, so it was explained and rarely ever mentioned by BJ, mostly likely explained by someone in his camp though.
Good grief ladies, but you do get your panties all in bunch over BJ/Sherk. lol. The fight will happen soon enough, then you guys can relentlessly tease the loser.
LoL, huh, true chefpops . . . “Now make me a ham sandwich bitch, i said NOW! And no, not with that mustard, with the other one, yea, the spicy one, duh! hehehe!
Lol!!!
And I’ve got a little special mayo for you there my friend. It’ll be ready in two minutes. lol
I just woke up, read this, now i DO want a sandwich and i ran out of turkey yesterday afternoon!! Me hungry!
Penn broke his rib doing a very pointless move. Any competent wrestler knows that an armbar triangle choke is just dumb. Its basicly like trying to pin a guy except by overexerting yourself. BJ didn’t know his own limitations there. Also with poking GSP in the eye and continually beating on him, he gave his fans a reason to think he could actually beat GSP. Penn is rude and if he was as washed up as Tito people would hate him based on his attitude alone. Penn huggers!
Lmao……..Sherk got owned. I can’t wait for BJ t smash this fool. I hope they start putting asterisks next to the records of MMA fighters who test positive for steroids…………
damnation! talk about hyping a fight! sherk sounded nervous and b.j.sounded confident imo. not over-confident. i believe everything dana says about jacob. in public he always hes always trying to come off as the good guy, when deep down he’s all about himself. it was funny what dana said about the fertittas, cuz jacob does always bring them up as if he gets along well w/ them. they probably dislike himjust as much as dana and will be glad to see him go.
Really? BJ was trying get under Sherk’s skin and was getting himself more worked up than anything. It sure sounded like BJ was more flustered and Sherk just laughed at him. He knows what he did and didn’t do but for eveyone else (including BJ) it is speculation. Hell, BJ was so frantic he was probably gassed after the interview.
No offense but what were you listening to? I love BJ and he makes fighting look beautiful and easy, but he sounded frantic, like he was talking to his split personality or something. Sherk actually sounded pretty calm and normal.
It’s as if he wants Sherk to be a user because it gives him something to cry about and makes him look all mighty. Very possible that this goes the distance and a decision. I think BJ has the edge, but wouldn’t count out Sherk’s heart and cardio.
no offense taken. b.j. sounded confident to me, and sherk honestly didn’t sound all that nervous, my bad. im a fan of b.j’s and gsps and before gsp’s fight w/ hughes and serra i felt a little worried. i dont have that feeling at all w bj/sherk. this isnt a knock on sherk. bj aside he is defenitley 1 of the favorites to be the ufc lw champ. im not counting sherk out completely, bj could slip on a bannana peel on the way to the cage. ( and i stated months ago that i believe sherk didnt purposely take roids. hes never tested positive before and his body has always lokked the same to me.) maybee they should let sherk take roids against bj, then it would be a level playing field. ha! bj is only trying to hype up this fight, after he wins i’m sure he’ll make amends w/sherk. he did with jens and i know he had more animosity with jens than sherk. i really dont put much into this interview at all. except the dana /jacob fued.
I hear that. Yeah, for some reason I don’t really think that Sherk really roided. It just doesn’t seem like it. His actions and the way he’s always responded. No test is completely bulletproof, and it’s really possible that this one was a slip-up. I was mistakenly tested positive for Hepatitis once. Made for an interesting couple of days.
HELLO! BJ does have a split personality, hes a fucken NUT!!!! And thats what i love about ‘em!! In the days f the gladiator if BJ were alive, it wouldnt satisfy him just to kill his opponent like the rest of the gladiators, he would gut ‘em like a fish, pull out the guys heart, and eat it for the crowd and i would have loved that too! WHAT! Im sick just like BJ . . . AND! “Whats he gonna do when im punching him and elbowing him and licking the blood off his face while im punching him?!?” Love that shit!! BJ BJ BJ!!!
ortiz/machida fight is more important for Machida to win to be accepted into the top 5 cuz no matter what Ortiz will be able to market and promote himself to make maad money with any other organization
BJ’s wicked he’s straight up but SS is in sick shape and will test BJ in the later rounds but i think BJ can manouvre and get SS back and choke him out!
haha..lol
BJ and Sherk conversating….Priceless..
I am soo pumped for this fight and the whole card for that matter!
BJ wins this fight-Easy!………….late 1st round or early 2nd, BJ via submisson!.
He didn’t finish Joe daddy that fast and Sherk is way better than Joe. BJ had better hope he does finish him that fast though, or he will gas and get finished. BJ CAN’T go 5 rounds against the likes of Sherk, Hughes or GSP.
Rediculous! Your boy just got bitch slapped through the mic HAha!
I laugh the same way Sherk laughed at BJ when he was getting all riled up. Sherk was the calm and cool one and he really got BJ going.
Its an hour long interview and BJ was worked up for 15 seconds of it, 45 minutes into it, Sherk knew he better not say anything, OR Saturday night could be worse for him then its already gonna be. I think hes just ready to pay the piper like a man, ready to take the hand that Karma has delt him and get it over with. Seans IS being a man, no fake injury, no more excuses, just get in the cage and stand across from BJ Penn . . . Like a man. Period. (Ill give you that Gord)
And so what, i love that BJ gets crazy, to me that isnt a bad thing. If a guy was calling me a chater i would be pissed, that should bother you. BJ is a NUT and i love it!!! Every crazy second of it! Every wild slap to his own face, every crazy blood licking comment, every callenge to guys like Sherk/GSP/AND BETTER, every takedown defense on one toe, every BJJ move frm gaurd, every extra long choke, EVEYTHING! Sherk even argues lame, he just layd and prayed through anarguement LoL, LAME!
Some guys stay calm and make them pay in the cage, for running their mouth. GSP-Serra comes to mind. One thing I know for sure, the confident ones are the ones that keep their mouth SHUT. It’s the guys that keep talking, that are trying to convince themselves. To me it sounds like BJ is making his excuse in advance, by constantly mentioning steriods. This way when he loses,him and all his fans can say he WOULD have won,IF Sherk didn’t juice. Won’t be anything new though, I’m used to hearing a lot of woulda’s, coulda’s and if’s from BJ’s fans.
Im one of those thats usualy quiet, may not seem so on here, but ill start now. See you sunday morning Gord, dont be ashamed to show your screen name around here, there will be another guy BJ will have to fight soon and you can jump on his bandwagon. But i bet you already are a Florian and a Huerta fan huh, whoever it is BJ will bitch slap them to. . . Then it will finaly be GSP . . .The guy i know you truly like, so i expect to see you then for sure, maybe after that youll come around to appreciate BJ Penn. If you wanna know anything else . . . GO TO BJPENN.COM!
This is the most rediculous comment ive ever heard. You used to argue logically Gord with GSp/Penn, what happened, you really went downhill.
You know what’s illogical? You and Adam convinced that BJ will RAPE Sherk (if he wins it won’t be easy). Also saying BJ is better than Sherk at everything,is very illogical, especially strength and conditioning. I rest my case on who is losing a grip on logic.
Cut and paste the post where i said BJs cardio is better. Cut and paste the post where i said BJs Strength is better, i say equal, similar, the same, but not better. I say bjs faughten MUCH MUCH stronger guys than Sean and done fine against them which means that Seans strength doenst matter to me and shouldnt matter to anyone cause BJ has been there and done that. Ive never said that Sean will be crushed in one pnch KO style. I argue dilligently that hes guilty of using steroids and BJ is is execututioner and that his record is full of CAN’S, but those are the only things im sure of when it comes to this fight. DONT put n the catagory of guys that just yell WAR PENNNNN and then leave or make claims that i dont back up (or try to), im beyond offended. Cause you cant argur your points/side you attack the oster thats geting the best of you, its chill, my fighters gonna get the best of you to when hes holding that choke for too long and you can come in here and complain about his ethics all day long since you wontbe able to argue about how your boy won the fight . . .
WORD!
Standup-BJ
BJJ-BJ
Westling-Does it matter now a days with BJJ being the ground game of choice . . .
Finishing-BJ
Causing cuts-BJ
Getting cut-Sherk
Strength-BJ, and your retarded to think Sherk is stronger . . .Who was able to stand back up on GSP, and Sherk was in shape and BJ was in round shape.
Speed-BJ
Flexability-BJ
Probable Winner-BJ!
WORD!
Standup-BJ
“BJJ-BJ
Westling-Does it matter now a days with BJJ being the ground game of choice . . .
Finishing-BJ
Causing cuts-BJ
Getting cut-Sherk
Strength-BJ, and your retarded to think Sherk is stronger . . .Who was able to stand back up on GSP, and Sherk was in shape and BJ was in round shape.
Speed-BJ
Flexability-BJ
Probable Winner-BJ!”
Not ONLY DID YOU SAY, “Strenth-BJ, but you said, YOUR (should be you’re) RETARDED TO THINK SHERK IS STRONGER”. You ALSO AGREED with Anomaly that BJ is better at EVERYTHING. Everything INCLUDES cardio. You also said in SEVERAL other (I’m not going to waste my time to copy and pasting them)posts that BJ would beat Sherk EASILY. You don’t even know what you’re posting. You don’t argue dilligently that he is guilty of doing steriods. For one, you say, Sherk has NEVER had high levels of Nan before and he always passed, yet Sherk has ALWAYS looks the same. Doesn’t this suggest that there was a MISTAKE. You can’t have it both ways. Either he has always been juiced or he NEVER juiced. It is OBVIOUS going from juice to no juice and vice versa. You’re not getting the best of me, like I said, you don’t even know what you said yesterday. I never attack the poster, just the stupid comments he says. Lastly, you should pay more attention to what you read, I’ve said MANY times,” I don’t care for Sherk” so he is not my boy. I just call them as I see them and I see him winning.
BJ will not need 5 rounds to finish off the like’s of a one dimensional Sherk. Also, how fast did you want BJ to beat the living hell out of Stevenson? I guess you think he took too long to beat Jens as well right??? Good God some of you people are morons to think that Sherk’s lay n pray ass is going to be able to stop BJ!!! As far as Hughes goes, well thats enough said he’ll be lucky if he can get passed Tyson, BJ’s the last person he needs to worry about beating…
That is true. Hughes does not need to worry about beating Penn. He already avenged that lose.
Yes, I do think BJ took way to long to finish a WASHED up Pulver. Lauzon destroyed him in a matter of seconds, not rounds.
LoL, you can compare that lucky punch to the pure dismantling and torture of Jens that BJ put on.
lol
Adam G……don’t fall for Gord’s comments. He must be a borderline troll lol.
His comments are so far off, it’s laughable.
He isn’t a sherk fan, just a Penn hater.
Penn will have no trouble dealing with Sherk, even with Lutters cardio.
Even with Lutters cardio LMAO, i like that, it wont be that, but i like it LoL Yea, Gord seemed to be a reasonable and logical guy (for a day) NOW im not so sure, i guess that pure punking of Sean really got to him. He can see that BJ aint scarred, he’ll say it to the guy directly, and he cant defend the interview so he goes back to Jens LoL, who got the *ss kicking of aa life time BTW! And we all know BJ had the arm bar and the triangle but didnt go for it, just likes to toy with guys and hates to do all that training and workingout for a 3 minute fight. “I wanna thank BJ for not going for the early submission finish and coming here to put on a fight, when he wants to punish he wants to punish” -Pulver Post Fight. “Whooooooo” -Pulver Looking At His Own Bustaed Up Face On The Big Screen Right After The Fight.
lol at Pulver post fight…..so true
Oops, it did sound like I said Penn had cardio like Lutters. I actually meant that even if Penn had Lutter’s cardio, a major handicap, he would still beat Sherk.
Another good point made by you Adam G…..Penn will actually decide himself when the fight ends.
I knew what ya meant, i liked that, EVEN if he had the cardio of Lt he would win, funny shit! 6DAYS!!! I cant wait for this, Quick combination, Sherk drops, back attack, roll em roll em roll em roll em, CHOKE TO PURPLE!
Hey Automation, I’m not a BJ hater, I just find his nuthugging fans (like yourself) to be very illogical and annoying. Why don’t you go and read some of my previous posts and see how far off I’ve been. I’m not the one who said BJ would win this fight EASILY. These guys are to close for either one to win easily. What’s laughable is you think BJ has good cardio,because he says he does. It’s yet to be seen,he was panting like a dog after the Stevenson fight, after only 2 rounds LOL.
Adam G, Penn should hire you as his P.R. person! lol
Gracias!!
Sounds like B.J was gassed from talking trash, not a good sign.
BJ is the Boss - he will make short work of sherk
Nah’ BJ was just maturbating…
hahaha tito will be exposed as the selfish 12 year old he’s always been once he loses to machida and has some injury to blame it on and cries about the ufc some more. its not looking bad on dana, frank or lorenzo, these greedy washups can say all they want but the truth is they are just along for the paycheck and wont have another exciting fight in their lives. everyone knows where the top competition is and where it will remain, steriod users and idiots like tito can go to japan or wherever they want, no one wants them here or to hear their bitching.
Please speak for yourself I can make my decisions about what I want to see and hear, so instead of everyone and no one just say I. When does Dana not try to make himself look good in public? Tito has never done anything but respect Frank and Lorenzo in public you can’t down the man for that. When was the last time Dana done anything for a charity? Tito along with many other fighters do alot for charity, kinda sounds stupid for Dana to call somebody out about being all for themself.
Dana’s and Tito’s fight was supposed to be for charity until Tito backdown. Tito is dating a porn star who talks ,like she was personally trained by Tito, to Dana like she’s known the sport forever. Tito keeps saying he wants to be treated like the champ he is. When Tito had the belt he ducked Liddell, but after he lost it and Liddell gained it Liddell gave Tito his shot. Tito held the fence against a guy who is known for his ground game more than his stand up and ended the fight in a draw however he claims he would have won the fight without that point being taken away… no you wouldn’t have cause that means you wouldn’t have held the fence and Rashad would have beat on you giving him the rounds. Tito is so full of it that I never want to see him fight again. His new reality show idea sounds like the perfect idea of Elite XC and that band of clowns. Get this shit out of the UFC!
John hope that $$$ 400.00 you got on BJ isnt the rent money. Sherk is going to take BJ down in the first 2 rounds and hump him till BJ gas’es and then in the 3rd a tired bj will get hammer fisted into a loss…..
Wow, the Steriod Shark couldn’t finish Kenflo or Franca when he was roiding and you think he will be able to finish BJ. Have you ever seen BJ fight?
Haze—Florian has never been stopped, and Franca has only been stopped once. Beating those two period is accomplishment right there. BJ Penn has been stopped numerous amounts of times. Just a bit of info for you there.
“BJ Penn has been stopped numerous times”???haha.lol
BJ has only been stopped ONCE!.ever!
Just a little info for you there.
BJ .vs. Sherk = easy win for BJ..sorry sherk fans!
c war ure wrong, kenflo was stopped by diego sanchez of ultimate fighter 1 finale….
c war ure wrong, kenflo was stopped by diego sanchez of ultimate fighter 1 finale…. u TUF newb haha
Also’ Before someone points out that Sherk has only been stopped once aswell, I already know!
But think about who was the only person to finish Sherk??..answer=GSP..The same guy BJ almost took out in the 1st round, and even though GSP won, it was a decision win…GSP couldn’t finish BJ, but GSP pumbled Sherk!…Also BJ has only been finished once and that was by Hughesus..And granted Hughesus broke BJ’s rib, It still effected the out-come, and BJ was killing Hughesus until that point…Sherk on the other hand, lost to Hughesus via decision..But BJ has beat Hughesus before….
Bottom line is (imo) BJ is way better of a fighter regardless of eachothers record…I dont understand how anyone could think BJ will lose to Sherk?….I am putting my “Stagger-Lee’Guarantee” on this one…BJ .vs. Sherk = easy win for BJ!
You don’t know what you’re talking about c-war, are you trying to say that Franca and Florian are better than BJ? Next time you try to make an argument, make sure it’s correct. Thanks for that bit of info.
my bad, I thought Pulver knocked Penn out a long time ago. Also thought St. Poerre had a stoppage. I need to take a trip back to Sherdog.
That’s the problem, you go to sherdog to look at the records, to see teh “win” or the “loss” via whatever, and dont watch the fight for yourself. There is so much more then just the win or loss. For example, that Penn had Pulver in an armbar taht Pulver was in teh process of tapping out of in there first fight. Best example of being saved by the bell that ive ever seen.
YUP! in a street fight jens could have kissed that arm goodbye and in a street fight there would be no break for gsp to compose himself and get his vision back.
What are you talking about? GSP had his vision back before the break between rounds. BJ is the one who needs the breaks to get his breath back. I laugh at the fact, that you NEGLECT to concider, that there is no time limit in a street fight. Penn was gassed and GSP would have beat him to death, within the next 3 minutes, had it been a street fight. Same goes for a FIVE round fight, you know, like the next time they meet.
Watch the post fight interview in the hospital with gsp at you tube dude, HE sayd he couldnt se BJ (or saw a bunch of BJs) for a round and a half . . . WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???? I dont speak on things that i think man, i do research than make my claims, go wat