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chris lytle josh koscheck

“… it seems to me when Koscheck lost his last fight to St. Pierre, he’s been changing it up a little bit, and that’s all I’m asking for. I don’t care if you try to take me down, that’s part of the sport, just don’t hold me and not do anything…. Avoid the takedown [is the gameplan]. But really avoid the laying down and having him pull a Matt Hughes on me. My main goal is to create space. If I’m on bottom, I’ve got to create space to make it difficult for him to control me. I just can’t let him dictate what’s going to happen in the fight.”

– Welterweight Chris Lytle shares his thoughts with FCFighter.com on his upcoming bout with Josh Koscheck at UFC 86: “Jackson vs. Griffin” at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas, Nevada, on July 5. Koscheck is perhaps a more dominant wrestler than Hughes. And in his fight with Hughes, Lytle spent a majority of the 15 minutes on his back defending submissions. It was boring.

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45 Comments »

Comment by b.w.
2008-05-09 10:54:28

good luck w/ that idea chris

Comment by OJR
2008-05-09 13:06:07

That’s just Chris playing mind games. He is trying to bait KOS. I don’t see KOS losing this one. KOS via boring decision.

 
 
Comment by kevin
2008-05-09 10:57:25

WOW, well put. while Matt Hughes is the most dominant WW ever (so far), but he is strong as an ox, and does love to hold guys down. His stand up sucks! his one dimensional style can’t match up with todays athletes

Comment by Smokes
2008-05-09 11:36:06

Please name examples besdies GSP. :) You have none. If you bash Hughes wait for him to lost to more than one person please. BJ would possibly beat Hughes as well but so far we have 2 P4P guys… Hughes is the Franklin of the WW division, show some respect.

Comment by kevin
2008-05-09 11:46:20

when did you become a fan smokes??? BJ already beat Hughes my friend!

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Comment by John
2008-05-09 12:36:24

I am picking Lytle in an upset!!!!!!

 
Comment by ViolentMike
2008-05-09 14:33:54

BUT, more recently, Hughes beat BJ.

 
Comment by ViolentMike
2008-05-09 14:39:50

I’m going with Kos in this one. I believe that he will take the Matt Hughes approach and grind out a decision.

However, each round starts on the feet, and Hazelett had Kos rocked, so imagine what Lytle could do? However, Lytle will be able to do very little to avoid the takedown in this fight. Kos will have complete control on whether the fight is taking place standing, or on the ground.

 
 
Comment by b.w.
2008-05-09 11:47:57

i will wait to pass judgement on hughes until after the alves fight. i have alot of respesct for him as a fighter, but not so much a person(doesnt matter). he has no stand-up at all and never has. thats not very well-rounded. if he beats alves i will agee a/your statement about comparing him to rich. b.j. is another i would add to gsp as being better than hughes.after those 2 though its just wait and see about guys like alves,fitch,diego,kos and davis. and as i have stated before i give much props to matt for taking the alves fight when he could have waited for serra. it puts him in a little different perspective to me.

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Comment by john
2008-05-09 13:22:48

BW: Like you, I respect Hughes as a fighter, after all he has done a lot for the sport……as a person, i think he is just trash!

I do give him props for tsking the Alves fight even though in his mind its a great match up, so I see his logic for taking the fight. After all, Its no secret what Hughes’s equation for a successfiul fighter is: Strength + Wrestling = a win.

His equation is out dated because in today’s mma, you have to be well rounded (something that Hughes clearly is not). There is NO EXCUSE for being in the sport this long and still having no stand up!

Look at how much fighters like Lytle, Davis and Koschek have evolved…. Hughes is still extremely 1 dimensional…all he has is a ground game. He is however better then Tito, because at least his ground game involves passing guard and ju jitsu.

By next year, all these 1 trick, 1 dimensional ponies will realize that they cant keep up with Today’s Cross Training MMA fighter!

 
Comment by Cool Hand Chad
2008-05-09 14:20:10

“as a person, i think he is just trash!”

Not just picking out you John, but I’d like to know where all this negative view on Hughes as a person came from.

Hughes has always respected the fighters he has fought and always brought his A-game into a fight. He is a great ambassador of the sport and helped push the UFC during it’s growth stage in the early 90’s, not by just giving us thrilling fights, but by pushing the image through marketing, etc.
On TUF he was always the one NOT running his mouth. It was the midget from Long Island talking all the trash. Trash that he has no room to talk. The guy has been beat by a lot of mid-carders.

Hughes “extremely 1 dimensional” style has led to him being a 9-time defending champ who has only lost to GSP and BJ PENN in the last 7 years. Hughes is 34. Liddell is pushing 40 and Couture is well into his 40’s.
I’ll say he’s over the hill when he starts dropping fights against people other than the Top Tier of the sport.

Give the future Hall of Famer some credit. Along with Couture and Liddell, Hughes carried UFC on his back.

PS: Who the hell is Chris Lytle to say anything? He’s a stepping stone for great fighters!

 
Comment by Cool Hand Chad
2008-05-09 14:51:50

TYPO: the early 2000’s not 90’s

 
 
Comment by Bobby O'shea
2008-05-09 11:49:48

Totally agree with kevin. Matt hughes has had a good career but lets face it. he hasnt beaten the best out there. he dominated at a time where one dimensional fighters ruled, but he has never evolved the way the sport has. He is still a one dimensional fighter. He would have lost to bj had penn not gotten hurt. Yes, he’s beaten frank trigg twice but besides that, he really hasnt beaten the greatest fighters in the world. To say carlos newton and joe riggs are best ww of all time is a joke. hughes will lose to alves unless he does the same thing he did wit lytle, take him down and lay on top of him. He’s simply a dumb farm boy and i hope he’s used as a doormat for up and coming ww like alves and kos who can expose his game for what it really is.

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Comment by JV
2008-05-09 12:22:47

His one demensional fighting was still good enough to beat some of the guys that people warship now like GSP, Penn. Penns fans hold on to the saying that “Penn would have won if not for” SHUT UP! Penn got his face pounded to the mat. Was not Royce Gracie one of the best? And Hughes made him look like shit. You don’t have to be a fan, but you should give credit where credit is do. Hughes past his prime now is still better than all WW out there with the exception of a few.

 
Comment by Joe
2008-05-09 12:45:38

Royce was one of the best oh about 15 years ago.

 
Comment by OJR
2008-05-09 13:09:47

I do not like Hughes’ attitude but he beat everyone put in front of him (minus GSP/BJ). That is the mark of a champion. He does show some one dimensional skill set but let’s give him a chance. Lets see what he has vs. Alves. Show him the respect he deserves.

 
Comment by Cool Hand Chad
2008-05-09 14:28:00

Bobby O’shea: “hughes has had a good career but lets face it, he hasn’t beaten the best out there”

Let’s look at all the “one dimensional fighters” he beat according to your retarded comment:

Carlos Newton (twice)
Sean Sherk
Frank Trigg (twice)
BJ Penn
GSP
Royce Gracie

A few of those guys are still at the top of the sport RIGHT NOW.
Gracie’s only loss is to Hughes, in which he got beat with his own BJJ, by a supposed 1 dimensional wrestler.

Give me a fucking break.

 
 
 
 
Comment by LongIslandguy
2008-05-09 11:02:30

a little cheap shot for the most dominant welterweight ever

 
Comment by San Jose Rob
2008-05-09 11:06:02

To Chris Lytle: Stop crying and improve your wrestling. If you don’t want to be taken down, leave MMA and go compete in kickboxing. Plenty of strikers in MMA have great takedown defense — suck it up, crybaby.

Comment by knowitall
2008-05-09 11:29:36