I like Dan, but to say that silva got lucky against him is stupid! He should have finished in the first if he could have! He didn’t and Silva dominated him. I think a second fight would have the same outcome. Hendo/franklin would be good, and I think Dan takes it
I love Hendo, but I aint buying the “he got lucky line either”. I have never bad mouthed the henderson vs. Silva fight because I am such a big fan of both fighters, but its TIME TO KEEP IT REAL! I have over 20 Dan Henderson fights in DVD and I have watched each one of them many times, and I hate to say it….but I dont know what the hell was wrong with Hendo that night. He seemed like he didnt care, or he was bored….I just dont know what his problem was. Let me put it simply: He didnt lay it all on the line. I hate to say it, but I have SEEN Dan Henderson Lay it all out on the line, and that night it wasn’t even close.
One of the few Knocks on Hendo is that he fights DOWN to his competitions level (which I agree with), but what the hell was wrong with him against Anderson. You dont fight DOWN to Anderson Silva, so that excuse is out of the window….
I bet Silva, assuming that the best version of Dan Hendersopn would show up that night….but that was not the best version of Hendo. I am not saying it might have been different, all I know is Dan did not fight up to his cabailities. I wish Couture was still commentating during that fight because I would have really liked to hear his thoughts on Dan’s performance.
I really hope, that Dan gets back to his NASTY form where he just BLASTS dudes because I dont know if he can beat Anderson Silva, but I do know that he has the potential to make it a much better match than the 1st fight…..So I am hopeful Dan returns to his rugged form, runs through a few people and gets a re-match against Silva…hopefully he will show up to fight next time around!
“Will The REAL DAN HENDERSON please Stand UP~!!! lol
GREAT post John. Hendo does fight to the level of his opponent. In Silva’s case, he should have risen his game, but he didn’t. He owned the first round. If rounds 1-5 went that way, he would have won the belt 50-45 on all 3 score cards. But that’s not what happened. Every round starts on the feet. Dan won the first round be taking Anderson down and keeping him there. In the second round, something got into his head where he thought that he could stand with Anderson Silva. Dan REALLY wanted to knockout Anderson - but it didn’t happen. Dan stood with the Spider for too long and got rocked by one knee. He avoided the attack and shot for a single leg, very weakly. Then the body triangle took out everything that he had left in his tank. The choke was inevitable - just a matter of time. If Dan hung on until the end of the round, I wonder how the rest of the fight would have went once Dan knew that he HAD to take Anderson to the ground.
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Comment by ViolentMike
2008-05-06 14:42:40
Hendo didn’t look like himself in his last fight.
Nick Diaz didn’t look like himself in his last couple of fights.
I am suddenly worried about Fitch and Leben. Well, I’ve always been worried about Fitch’s chances against GSP but…
Good comment, you know I think he’s not going to get better at this age.. 37 or 38…it show’s in his cardio, Tito doesn’t have the same cardio as he use to when he was champ, Chuck doesn’t have the same explosiveness he did while reigning champ for a few yrs. Most of the fighters go for a long time and peak at a certain time in their careers, some become champs and only some come close, and that’s were they make they’re money and name. Randy Couture was an exception and I’m sure there will be a few more along the way, I don’t think Hendo’s one of them.
I think a second fight would have the same outcome, Dan didn’t look good because it was anderson that made him look bad, that’s how I see it (and I’m a big fan of both too). I’d love to see a second fight though, and hopefully it will go the distance, but I still see anderson with his arms raised in the end.
PS: Dan still thinks he can stand with silva, that’s his biggest problem, he’s too stubborn.
Dan is saying he is unsure what weight class he will fight in next, but he says he wants a rematch with Silva, and that he “has to work his way up” to do that. So my best guess is that if your wondering what weight class Hendo will fight in for his next fight?,he probably just answered it.MW..Now an opponant?.and a date?..
Cant wait for his next fight..Even if it is agianst TupperWare..
Stagger-Lee: Nice to see you posting again. I dont think he is going to get awareded any title shots anymore in either division. I think he will need 2 wins under his belt against quality opposition.
I would start him off against Jason McDonald. After he thrashed the talented-fairy and assuming Rich wins his next fight, I would have Hendo vs. Rich for a #1 contender match!
or something simular to that scenario because the interesting part about the middleweight division is that there is so much pairity through out the division, so you can replace Jason McDonald with a handful of fighters on mini winning streaks and it would do for a good 1st opponent.
I would really like to see Cote vs. Henderson, then have him fight Ace…..but Cote is still hurt, I think!
I agree, I say hes 2 wins away from a rematch. He beats a McDonald caliber fighter, then takes on the winner of Bisping and Rich. I dont see Rich beating both of those guys, so we will not have to worry about an Anderson vs. Rich fight again.
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Comment by Toms Bombs
2008-05-06 19:30:46
Bisping and Franklin? Bisping has to get to him first. lol That is to say if Leben gets out of jain in time, he’ll knock Bisping’s ass out….I hope. lol
Comment by chefdaddy
2008-05-07 06:54:13
I’ll say it again. Franklin would eat Bisping for lunch. How does anyone think that Bisping (who hasn’t fought ANY top 10 fighters) can simply drop a weight class and suddenly compete with the top 5’s in middleweight. Sorry, he has a ways to go still.
thanks john, I have been busy…
I agree 2 wins for Hendo before being granted a title shot..Guy’s like Macdonald,Leban,Cote,Quarry ect ect..would be a perfect 1st fight for Hendo..
2nd fight, hands down Franklin/Hendo..If he could pull it off he would most definetly get a rematch with Anderson..
Another possibility is that Hendo goes back up to LHW and gets a couple wins. If he had 2 or 3 decent wins at lhw, he could possibly challenge Silva from that stand point??.or maybe even Rampage?..who knows?
I just want to see Hendo fight soon!..Cote/Hendo would be great on a UFN..can you say slug-fest!
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Comment by RobH86
2008-05-06 18:04:04
Nice points. I believe he has a better chance against Quinton than Anderson. I was at 75 and I scored it 48-47 Jackson. I haven’t seen it on vid but I’d say he could have a fair shot at dethroning Rampage.
Thats exactly what he is. McDonald has all the skill and talent in the world but he is SOFT! IMO, he lacks toughness and heart needed to take his game to the next level….Its a shame Heart and toughness are aspects that you cant really learn…U either got it or you dont, IMO McDonald…..DONT!!!
Henderson would own Cote by taking him down and having his way. Cote stands a much better chance against Silva, because he won’t take him down. If Cote can win his next fight or 2 we just might see this fight. Especially if he does it in KO fashion. There are better,more well rounded MW’s, but I think Cote matches up better, for the following reasons, he is very good at not talking to much damage. He won’t take the fight to the ground (where many met their fate with Silva). He has 1 punch KO power and exellent hands. And probably most important if he fights Silva, he can take a punch like few others can (I have never seen him get rocked).I wouldn’t bet on Cote winning, yet I would bet that he would last longer than Anderson’s previous 5 victoms.
But how much working up will the UFC want him to do. The way I see it, Hendo and Franklin will be the fight for the number 1 contender? Anyone have any other ideas as to who else he would have to beat? And for the love of God, don’t anyone throw Bisping’s name in the hat yet!
I really don’t think it would be the same outcome. Dan got out of his element because he got too comfortable. He didn’t stick to his game plan that he came in with in the first round. I think if they fought again he’d take the belt. I do think however he doesn’t get an immediate rematch. He has to earn it. He needs to beat Franklin and then go back at Silva 100%.
i also think that Hendo needs to earn a rematch.there is no way he should be just given another title shot.but i dont think Ace is the right path to Anderson,IMO Ace would probably beat Hendo by way of U.dec.
What fight were you watching, because from were i was sitting on the couch watching. Dan got his A$$ handed to him and there was no way out. I laugh evertime someone says stuff like he could have. Guess what he did not! and never will beat the likes of Spider. Just to smooth and fluid like water and Hendo fights like fire but water always puts out fire.
Dan is a wrestler who loves to stand and fight…which I think is his biggest problem. He’s always looking for the big knockout. He has to get inside and use his greco roman clinch to nullify silva’s thai clinch, or turn the fight into a wrestling match controlling silva on the ground, wearing him out, and then finishing him off with gnp. And Dan never said Silva got lucky, he said he wasn’t 100%, which definitely showed in the fight. Dan has a great chance of beating Silva if they meet again.
I really want Dan to get another shot at Anderson. IMO he will win the next fight. Besides, Anderson is really pissing me off with all this boxing BS. Shut-up and defend your belt. At this point, I really just want to see someone kick his ass right off his throne.
i still can’t decide if silva just tied him up well and essentially controlled him off his back/half guard to limit the damage done… or whether dan just didn’t capitalise with the ground and pound enough and really wear silva down enough… he seemed to focus too much on limiting the breathing rather than just trying to get some really good strikes in…
but in the first round it really looked like had that round be 30 mins long he could have held silva down for all 30 mins… he just couldn’t seem to get enough damage done… and the hard part was getting within range to execute that gorilla greco-roman clinch…
i would like dan to have a couple of easier fights to try and get some time in the octagon and know what it feels like to win again before another hard fight…
rampage, silva, franklin isn’t exactly the easiest run of fights… makes his 0-2 record a little more understandable…
i agree witht hat last comment totally.
if he can show he still has it by beating franklin,
then he should get another shot. or maybe winner of leben/bisbing could take on danny boy
And if Rich was to win he should move back up to 205 and use the fact that he just beat a 205 champion as an arguement for this to be the right decision and that he belongs in the 205 class as a top 10er. Then you dont have to worry about a Rich/Silva3 wasting a main event bout anytime soon and a possible Franklin/Machida rematch (if Machida wins or loses to Tito) could go into the works. If Dan wins feed ‘em to Silva again i guess, then he can move back up (if he loses) and fiht rematches with Franklin/Jackson/W.Silva etc etc Plenty in the future for both guys regardless.
I say let Okami take on Silva right now. Silva needs to defend that belt against somebody and right now Okami is the only one that I can think of that deserves a shot. Silva is a nice guy but I do think he needs to quit with the boxing bs and defend that belt. Let Dan get 1 or 2 wins and then he can have another shot at it. If he’s on his game he can beat anyother middle weight including my boy Franklin.
I think he should have to win 3 strait before they even think of giving him a shot at a title…The dudes first two fights in UFC since 1998 were both title matches!!!
I know how well he did in pride, and they (the UFC) have shown him the proper respect, but enough is enough…It’s time for “Hendo” to work his way back up.
This applies to W.Silva as well (if you were counting his defeat to Hendo) . . . They didnt cut Penn after GSP/Hughes, instead they put ‘em on a TV show and gave him the fight of his dreams. Due to these facts (Both Penn and W.Silva) I think its safe to say that Hendo could lose 4 fights in a row and as long as they are to quality opponents Dana will not cut you if you are a profitable draw.
Well look at the past two losses that Henderson had. LHW Champion Quinton Jackson and MW Champion Anderson Silva.
He came into the UFC fighting only champions. I don’t think they’ll release him anytime soon. Now if he started losing to the bottom of the barrell, then I’d change my tune.
Okami deserves the next title shot, plain and simple. This shouldn’t even be a question except people think he will put on a “boring” fite. That is dumb, okami’s style mite not be pretty but its effective. Plus the bad blood between him and silva is very apparent. Okami also seems like a guy who wont be dwarfed by the moment and intimidated by silva the way that hendo and marquert were. I think okami has a pretty solid chin as well and will be able to take some of silvas best shots. This is a fite I want to see and I hope most mma fans feel the same way.
I want to see this fight as well. Okami is for real. Anderson has a big head right now and doesn’t seemed focused on MMA with all this boxing talk. I wouldn’t count Okami out of this fight at all. I could really see him pulling out a major upset. He has dominated all of his fights in the UFC with the exception of Rich, and even that fight was very close and could have gone either way.
His fight with Swick was close, but yea I agree. Okami is smart enough to stay out of trouble unlike all of Silva’s other opponents. I wouldnt be surprised if Okami pulled off the upset.
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Comment by bnf
2008-05-06 17:22:37
I forgot about Swick, but even then Swick felt so overpowered he moved down to 170!
I think that the UFC is stalling their decision making on Hendo/ACE until the Rampage Griffin title fight. I think that Dana is salivating at the possible matchup of Griffin/Franklin….two of the most popular fighters ever in the UFC. But that fight can’t happen if Forest is the champ, as Rich can’t get an automatic title shot @ 205. So…if Rampage wins, Rich moves up and fights Forest, and Dan is left to fight the winner of Leben/Bisping or Nate Quarry. If Forest wins, Rich & Dan fight @ 185, with the loser going back up to 205 to finish their career. Just the way I see it.
By the way, if Hendo fights Silva again, my money is on DAN. And, a Rich/Lyoto re-match will not happen. Did you all see the first fight? He does not want to fight Lyoto any more than he wants to fight Silva again.
I think Henderson needs to get a tune up fight. Let him get a win under his belt. Then maybe Henderson vs Franklin with the winner taking on the winner of Silva vs Okami.
Franklin vs. Hendo makes sense.
(Was that Bisping or Kampmann in the lower left hand corner of the split screen? )
Kampmann by the way has been overlooked as a contender.
I’d pick Dan to win again. All of Silva’s opponents want to stand with him and all paid for it except Lutter but he has about the same amount of stamina as my great grandfather.
I saw their first fight like this: it wasn’t as much Silva lost the first round as it was he felt his opponent out for the first round. He analyzed Hendo’s strength, etc., and settled in for round 2 like a python studying his prey. Hendo showed more mettle against Rampage.. perhaps the cut is just too tough. He’s not getting any younger and coming down to MW may not be easy for him to do. Anyhooo, I think a 2nd fight in the near future between them will go the same way. AND, like someone else said, Hendo should have to earn a title shot with a couple of wins.
I don’t see why Hendo can’t get a rematch right away, I mean Penn lost to GSP and Hughes, then went to 155 straight to a title shot. I wouldn’t mind seeing Hendo vs. Silva 2 right away and I’m sure it would sell regardless.
Its such a coincidence that all fighters that lose always come up with an excuse lika “i wasnt myself in that fight” or “I wasnt 100%”. If that was the case then you shouldnt have fought. Enough with the excuses and congratulate your opponent on being the better fighter. No excuses and end of story.
hendo was clearly not trying to find an excuse. if you have been a fan of hendo as long as i have, you can clearly see he wasnt his “usual” self. He was just dissapointed in that, thats all. lets not forget he dominated the 1st round, so its not like he got destroyed, he just got caught! i would love to see hendo fight anderson again over any other fighter against silva.
He wasnt his usual self because Silva didnt let him be his usual self. He contained Henderson in the first round, avoiding getting GnPd and thats why Dan couldnt finish the fight. In the second he knew what he had to do to avoid a takedown by Henderson, which he did, kept the fight standing and caught Henderson with knees as he has done with all his opponents. Henderson tried to fight his fight but couldnt because he was inferior that Silva, so thats why he wasnt himself.
and yes, theres absolutely no one who has fought tougher competition back to back to back then HENDO. it shows you the kinda of fighter he is bring on the best or nothing at all!!
i think hendo should fight okami,and winner of leben bisping.. i wonder who big nog fights next though i think the only person in heavyweight who deserves a shot is mir coming off the big win over lesnar and he has already had the belt.. heath herring lost to him,and vera has to fight werdum next so who fights nog? every other division is pretty predictable as to who will get a shot next though machida should get one,fitch will get one,huerta and florian probably both get one this year but 185 and 265 lbs divisions it’s like a randomised hat drawing to see this..
Okami gets one probably. Thiago Silva is getting closer in LHW. Probably next year.
I just love how when a fighter begins to explain himself or say something about why they lost, legions of people flood in here screaming “stop making excuses” etc etc. It’s so frigg’in predictable. Often dudes go into fights with something wrong. They don’t say anything about it if they win, but often if they lose, they’ll explain why they think it happened. I get tired of people jumping on that particular band-wagon.
Of course for any fighter, the talking needs to be done in the cage.
Hendo should have won that fight. He is the only person in the MW division that can beat Anderson. Nobody else in the MW division can beat Hendo IMO. Don’t get me wrong, I like Rich but if he fights Hendo it will probablly be his last fight in the UFC. I think in the second or third round Hendo would eventually overwhelm him winning by TKO. Now that Hendo has been in the cage with Anderson, I think he’ll be better prepared this time if a 2nd fight happens. Anderson Silva is the most technichal fighter in MMA and if you have the smallest hole in your game he will exploit it. You can’t leave anything out when you prepare for the spider because eventually he will find your weakness.
That a boy Danny!
way to stay positive..
I like Dan, but to say that silva got lucky against him is stupid! He should have finished in the first if he could have! He didn’t and Silva dominated him. I think a second fight would have the same outcome. Hendo/franklin would be good, and I think Dan takes it
I love Hendo, but I aint buying the “he got lucky line either”. I have never bad mouthed the henderson vs. Silva fight because I am such a big fan of both fighters, but its TIME TO KEEP IT REAL! I have over 20 Dan Henderson fights in DVD and I have watched each one of them many times, and I hate to say it….but I dont know what the hell was wrong with Hendo that night. He seemed like he didnt care, or he was bored….I just dont know what his problem was. Let me put it simply: He didnt lay it all on the line. I hate to say it, but I have SEEN Dan Henderson Lay it all out on the line, and that night it wasn’t even close.
One of the few Knocks on Hendo is that he fights DOWN to his competitions level (which I agree with), but what the hell was wrong with him against Anderson. You dont fight DOWN to Anderson Silva, so that excuse is out of the window….
I bet Silva, assuming that the best version of Dan Hendersopn would show up that night….but that was not the best version of Hendo. I am not saying it might have been different, all I know is Dan did not fight up to his cabailities. I wish Couture was still commentating during that fight because I would have really liked to hear his thoughts on Dan’s performance.
I really hope, that Dan gets back to his NASTY form where he just BLASTS dudes because I dont know if he can beat Anderson Silva, but I do know that he has the potential to make it a much better match than the 1st fight…..So I am hopeful Dan returns to his rugged form, runs through a few people and gets a re-match against Silva…hopefully he will show up to fight next time around!
“Will The REAL DAN HENDERSON please Stand UP~!!! lol
GREAT post John. Hendo does fight to the level of his opponent. In Silva’s case, he should have risen his game, but he didn’t. He owned the first round. If rounds 1-5 went that way, he would have won the belt 50-45 on all 3 score cards. But that’s not what happened. Every round starts on the feet. Dan won the first round be taking Anderson down and keeping him there. In the second round, something got into his head where he thought that he could stand with Anderson Silva. Dan REALLY wanted to knockout Anderson - but it didn’t happen. Dan stood with the Spider for too long and got rocked by one knee. He avoided the attack and shot for a single leg, very weakly. Then the body triangle took out everything that he had left in his tank. The choke was inevitable - just a matter of time. If Dan hung on until the end of the round, I wonder how the rest of the fight would have went once Dan knew that he HAD to take Anderson to the ground.
Hendo didn’t look like himself in his last fight.
Nick Diaz didn’t look like himself in his last couple of fights.
I am suddenly worried about Fitch and Leben. Well, I’ve always been worried about Fitch’s chances against GSP but…
come on mike, fitch has NO chance against GSP
Good comment, you know I think he’s not going to get better at this age.. 37 or 38…it show’s in his cardio, Tito doesn’t have the same cardio as he use to when he was champ, Chuck doesn’t have the same explosiveness he did while reigning champ for a few yrs. Most of the fighters go for a long time and peak at a certain time in their careers, some become champs and only some come close, and that’s were they make they’re money and name. Randy Couture was an exception and I’m sure there will be a few more along the way, I don’t think Hendo’s one of them.
I think a second fight would have the same outcome, Dan didn’t look good because it was anderson that made him look bad, that’s how I see it (and I’m a big fan of both too). I’d love to see a second fight though, and hopefully it will go the distance, but I still see anderson with his arms raised in the end.
PS: Dan still thinks he can stand with silva, that’s his biggest problem, he’s too stubborn.
Why whenever a fighter looses everyone makes excuses that he didn’t look like himself. He got his butt handed to him by a better man case closed.
where the hell in that interview did he say Anderson got lucky cuz i didnt hear. i heard Dan say he didnt perform well and wasnt 100%
When did Henderson say Silva got Lucky?… He didn’t even imply that… u must be a Hendo hater or just a pure Silva Luver’
where have you been? he said that a few days after the fight, not implied it, came right out and said it!
Dan is saying he is unsure what weight class he will fight in next, but he says he wants a rematch with Silva, and that he “has to work his way up” to do that. So my best guess is that if your wondering what weight class Hendo will fight in for his next fight?,he probably just answered it.MW..Now an opponant?.and a date?..
Cant wait for his next fight..Even if it is agianst TupperWare..
Stagger-Lee: Nice to see you posting again. I dont think he is going to get awareded any title shots anymore in either division. I think he will need 2 wins under his belt against quality opposition.
I would start him off against Jason McDonald. After he thrashed the talented-fairy and assuming Rich wins his next fight, I would have Hendo vs. Rich for a #1 contender match!
or something simular to that scenario because the interesting part about the middleweight division is that there is so much pairity through out the division, so you can replace Jason McDonald with a handful of fighters on mini winning streaks and it would do for a good 1st opponent.
I would really like to see Cote vs. Henderson, then have him fight Ace…..but Cote is still hurt, I think!
Cote is fighting Almedia at 86.
I agree, I say hes 2 wins away from a rematch. He beats a McDonald caliber fighter, then takes on the winner of Bisping and Rich. I dont see Rich beating both of those guys, so we will not have to worry about an Anderson vs. Rich fight again.
Bisping and Franklin? Bisping has to get to him first. lol That is to say if Leben gets out of jain in time, he’ll knock Bisping’s ass out….I hope. lol
I’ll say it again. Franklin would eat Bisping for lunch. How does anyone think that Bisping (who hasn’t fought ANY top 10 fighters) can simply drop a weight class and suddenly compete with the top 5’s in middleweight. Sorry, he has a ways to go still.
thanks john, I have been busy…
I agree 2 wins for Hendo before being granted a title shot..Guy’s like Macdonald,Leban,Cote,Quarry ect ect..would be a perfect 1st fight for Hendo..
2nd fight, hands down Franklin/Hendo..If he could pull it off he would most definetly get a rematch with Anderson..
Another possibility is that Hendo goes back up to LHW and gets a couple wins. If he had 2 or 3 decent wins at lhw, he could possibly challenge Silva from that stand point??.or maybe even Rampage?..who knows?
I just want to see Hendo fight soon!..Cote/Hendo would be great on a UFN..can you say slug-fest!
Nice points. I believe he has a better chance against Quinton than Anderson. I was at 75 and I scored it 48-47 Jackson. I haven’t seen it on vid but I’d say he could have a fair shot at dethroning Rampage.
Talented Fairy… that was funny…
Thats exactly what he is. McDonald has all the skill and talent in the world but he is SOFT! IMO, he lacks toughness and heart needed to take his game to the next level….Its a shame Heart and toughness are aspects that you cant really learn…U either got it or you dont, IMO McDonald…..DONT!!!
Henderson would own Cote by taking him down and having his way. Cote stands a much better chance against Silva, because he won’t take him down. If Cote can win his next fight or 2 we just might see this fight. Especially if he does it in KO fashion. There are better,more well rounded MW’s, but I think Cote matches up better, for the following reasons, he is very good at not talking to much damage. He won’t take the fight to the ground (where many met their fate with Silva). He has 1 punch KO power and exellent hands. And probably most important if he fights Silva, he can take a punch like few others can (I have never seen him get rocked).I wouldn’t bet on Cote winning, yet I would bet that he would last longer than Anderson’s previous 5 victoms.
But how much working up will the UFC want him to do. The way I see it, Hendo and Franklin will be the fight for the number 1 contender? Anyone have any other ideas as to who else he would have to beat? And for the love of God, don’t anyone throw Bisping’s name in the hat yet!
Maybe Okami?
I really don’t think it would be the same outcome. Dan got out of his element because he got too comfortable. He didn’t stick to his game plan that he came in with in the first round. I think if they fought again he’d take the belt. I do think however he doesn’t get an immediate rematch. He has to earn it. He needs to beat Franklin and then go back at Silva 100%.
i also think that Hendo needs to earn a rematch.there is no way he should be just given another title shot.but i dont think Ace is the right path to Anderson,IMO Ace would probably beat Hendo by way of U.dec.
What fight were you watching, because from were i was sitting on the couch watching. Dan got his A$$ handed to him and there was no way out. I laugh evertime someone says stuff like he could have. Guess what he did not! and never will beat the likes of Spider. Just to smooth and fluid like water and Hendo fights like fire but water always puts out fire.
Dan is a wrestler who loves to stand and fight…which I think is his biggest problem. He’s always looking for the big knockout. He has to get inside and use his greco roman clinch to nullify silva’s thai clinch, or turn the fight into a wrestling match controlling silva on the ground, wearing him out, and then finishing him off with gnp. And Dan never said Silva got lucky, he said he wasn’t 100%, which definitely showed in the fight. Dan has a great chance of beating Silva if they meet again.
I really want Dan to get another shot at Anderson. IMO he will win the next fight. Besides, Anderson is really pissing me off with all this boxing BS. Shut-up and defend your belt. At this point, I really just want to see someone kick his ass right off his throne.
i still can’t decide if silva just tied him up well and essentially controlled him off his back/half guard to limit the damage done… or whether dan just didn’t capitalise with the ground and pound enough and really wear silva down enough… he seemed to focus too much on limiting the breathing rather than just trying to get some really good strikes in…
but in the first round it really looked like had that round be 30 mins long he could have held silva down for all 30 mins… he just couldn’t seem to get enough damage done… and the hard part was getting within range to execute that gorilla greco-roman clinch…
i would like dan to have a couple of easier fights to try and get some time in the octagon and know what it feels like to win again before another hard fight…
rampage, silva, franklin isn’t exactly the easiest run of fights… makes his 0-2 record a little more understandable…
i agree witht hat last comment totally.
if he can show he still has it by beating franklin,
then he should get another shot. or maybe winner of leben/bisbing could take on danny boy
I was disappointed that he didn’t mention who besides himself, he thinks would have the best shot at dethroning Anderson.
beat franklin 1rst. then talk silva.
Wzzzzzord!
And if Rich was to win he should move back up to 205 and use the fact that he just beat a 205 champion as an arguement for this to be the right decision and that he belongs in the 205 class as a top 10er. Then you dont have to worry about a Rich/Silva3 wasting a main event bout anytime soon and a possible Franklin/Machida rematch (if Machida wins or loses to Tito) could go into the works. If Dan wins feed ‘em to Silva again i guess, then he can move back up (if he loses) and fiht rematches with Franklin/Jackson/W.Silva etc etc Plenty in the future for both guys regardless.
I say let Okami take on Silva right now. Silva needs to defend that belt against somebody and right now Okami is the only one that I can think of that deserves a shot. Silva is a nice guy but I do think he needs to quit with the boxing bs and defend that belt. Let Dan get 1 or 2 wins and then he can have another shot at it. If he’s on his game he can beat anyother middle weight including my boy Franklin.
I think he should have to win 3 strait before they even think of giving him a shot at a title…The dudes first two fights in UFC since 1998 were both title matches!!!
I know how well he did in pride, and they (the UFC) have shown him the proper respect, but enough is enough…It’s time for “Hendo” to work his way back up.
I’m surprised nobody has mentioned so far that Dan NEEDS to win his next fight, or else it’s 3 straight losses in the octagon.
Given the UFC’s cutting-board attitude as of late, it would be really bad for Hendo, and I personally would hate for that to happen to him.
This applies to W.Silva as well (if you were counting his defeat to Hendo) . . . They didnt cut Penn after GSP/Hughes, instead they put ‘em on a TV show and gave him the fight of his dreams. Due to these facts (Both Penn and W.Silva) I think its safe to say that Hendo could lose 4 fights in a row and as long as they are to quality opponents Dana will not cut you if you are a profitable draw.
Well look at the past two losses that Henderson had. LHW Champion Quinton Jackson and MW Champion Anderson Silva.
He came into the UFC fighting only champions. I don’t think they’ll release him anytime soon. Now if he started losing to the bottom of the barrell, then I’d change my tune.
I thought Dan would win =[
You weren’t the only one
Okami deserves the next title shot, plain and simple. This shouldn’t even be a question except people think he will put on a “boring” fite. That is dumb, okami’s style mite not be pretty but its effective. Plus the bad blood between him and silva is very apparent. Okami also seems like a guy who wont be dwarfed by the moment and intimidated by silva the way that hendo and marquert were. I think okami has a pretty solid chin as well and will be able to take some of silvas best shots. This is a fite I want to see and I hope most mma fans feel the same way.
I want to see this fight as well. Okami is for real. Anderson has a big head right now and doesn’t seemed focused on MMA with all this boxing talk. I wouldn’t count Okami out of this fight at all. I could really see him pulling out a major upset. He has dominated all of his fights in the UFC with the exception of Rich, and even that fight was very close and could have gone either way.
His fight with Swick was close, but yea I agree. Okami is smart enough to stay out of trouble unlike all of Silva’s other opponents. I wouldnt be surprised if Okami pulled off the upset.
I forgot about Swick, but even then Swick felt so overpowered he moved down to 170!
As long as he avoids the sub, im pretty sure he’ll take the win.
LMAO@ Henderson…
he has beat champs in 3 weight classes..nobody has EVER done that
I think that the UFC is stalling their decision making on Hendo/ACE until the Rampage Griffin title fight. I think that Dana is salivating at the possible matchup of Griffin/Franklin….two of the most popular fighters ever in the UFC. But that fight can’t happen if Forest is the champ, as Rich can’t get an automatic title shot @ 205. So…if Rampage wins, Rich moves up and fights Forest, and Dan is left to fight the winner of Leben/Bisping or Nate Quarry. If Forest wins, Rich & Dan fight @ 185, with the loser going back up to 205 to finish their career. Just the way I see it.
By the way, if Hendo fights Silva again, my money is on DAN. And, a Rich/Lyoto re-match will not happen. Did you all see the first fight? He does not want to fight Lyoto any more than he wants to fight Silva again.
He doesn’t want to fight Lyoto just like Liddell doesn’t want to! lol Love it!
I like to see that rematch.
I think Henderson needs to get a tune up fight. Let him get a win under his belt. Then maybe Henderson vs Franklin with the winner taking on the winner of Silva vs Okami.
Franklin vs. Hendo makes sense.
(Was that Bisping or Kampmann in the lower left hand corner of the split screen? )
Kampmann by the way has been overlooked as a contender.
I’d pick Dan to win again. All of Silva’s opponents want to stand with him and all paid for it except Lutter but he has about the same amount of stamina as my great grandfather.
I saw their first fight like this: it wasn’t as much Silva lost the first round as it was he felt his opponent out for the first round. He analyzed Hendo’s strength, etc., and settled in for round 2 like a python studying his prey. Hendo showed more mettle against Rampage.. perhaps the cut is just too tough. He’s not getting any younger and coming down to MW may not be easy for him to do. Anyhooo, I think a 2nd fight in the near future between them will go the same way. AND, like someone else said, Hendo should have to earn a title shot with a couple of wins.
if this happens anderson silva will own dan agean
I’d rather see Hendo go back to 205 as he’s top 3 there, whereas he is a top 5 middleweight.
Hendo vs anyone at 205 is more exciting.
Him fighting Chuck would be an interesting fight.
Plus Hendo is coming off 3 title fights in a row, give the guy a rest.
Anderson Silva is a badass, no question.
BUT, Hendo definitely won that first round. Granted he was torn apart in the next…
…I would like to see a rematch. At this point I think it’s really the most interesting fight to see after the Okami fight (if that ever happens).
I don’t see why Hendo can’t get a rematch right away, I mean Penn lost to GSP and Hughes, then went to 155 straight to a title shot. I wouldn’t mind seeing Hendo vs. Silva 2 right away and I’m sure it would sell regardless.
Cause Hendo fought Silva for the belt in Pride, then fought Rampage at 205, and now Silva again at 185 for the belt again.
At some point he will have to defend his #1 contender status against some up and comers.
Its such a coincidence that all fighters that lose always come up with an excuse lika “i wasnt myself in that fight” or “I wasnt 100%”. If that was the case then you shouldnt have fought. Enough with the excuses and congratulate your opponent on being the better fighter. No excuses and end of story.
Yep!
hendo was clearly not trying to find an excuse. if you have been a fan of hendo as long as i have, you can clearly see he wasnt his “usual” self. He was just dissapointed in that, thats all. lets not forget he dominated the 1st round, so its not like he got destroyed, he just got caught! i would love to see hendo fight anderson again over any other fighter against silva.
He wasnt his usual self because Silva didnt let him be his usual self. He contained Henderson in the first round, avoiding getting GnPd and thats why Dan couldnt finish the fight. In the second he knew what he had to do to avoid a takedown by Henderson, which he did, kept the fight standing and caught Henderson with knees as he has done with all his opponents. Henderson tried to fight his fight but couldnt because he was inferior that Silva, so thats why he wasnt himself.
and yes, theres absolutely no one who has fought tougher competition back to back to back then HENDO. it shows you the kinda of fighter he is bring on the best or nothing at all!!
i think hendo should fight okami,and winner of leben bisping.. i wonder who big nog fights next though i think the only person in heavyweight who deserves a shot is mir coming off the big win over lesnar and he has already had the belt.. heath herring lost to him,and vera has to fight werdum next so who fights nog? every other division is pretty predictable as to who will get a shot next though machida should get one,fitch will get one,huerta and florian probably both get one this year but 185 and 265 lbs divisions it’s like a randomised hat drawing to see this..
Dude if you look close enough at the beginning of the video you can see Steve mazzagati sitting at ringside……lol
Okami gets one probably. Thiago Silva is getting closer in LHW. Probably next year.
I just love how when a fighter begins to explain himself or say something about why they lost, legions of people flood in here screaming “stop making excuses” etc etc. It’s so frigg’in predictable. Often dudes go into fights with something wrong. They don’t say anything about it if they win, but often if they lose, they’ll explain why they think it happened. I get tired of people jumping on that particular band-wagon.
Of course for any fighter, the talking needs to be done in the cage.
Hendo should have won that fight. He is the only person in the MW division that can beat Anderson. Nobody else in the MW division can beat Hendo IMO. Don’t get me wrong, I like Rich but if he fights Hendo it will probablly be his last fight in the UFC. I think in the second or third round Hendo would eventually overwhelm him winning by TKO. Now that Hendo has been in the cage with Anderson, I think he’ll be better prepared this time if a 2nd fight happens. Anderson Silva is the most technichal fighter in MMA and if you have the smallest hole in your game he will exploit it. You can’t leave anything out when you prepare for the spider because eventually he will find your weakness.