Not sure why he gets hate…he has close losses to the top guys at 185. seriously.

If you were fit to fight for more than one round you could maybe have gotten him in some other hold in a later round and finished. Regardless of what everyone, myself included, has to say about Jorge “Cabana Boy” Gurgel, he really had Rich prepared for Lutter’s ground game and submissions. After surviving the first round with a sweet escape, Rich was just the jock picking on the fat kid.

I also propose that Gurgel be henceforth referred to as Cabana Boy. With Tupperware no longer active we need a new batch of names to anonymously make fun of people who could kick the crap out of us.

Whats with this crap about luck! Yeah its possible for some people to get lucky inside the octagon but not last time (against Silva) and certainly not this time. Thats twice he’s failed to adaquately prepare for a fight and by doing so hes blown two of the biggest opportunities he’ll ever have. The UFC doesnt need fighters like that and I don’t believe in paying money to see fighters like that. Don’t get me wrong he’s no Kalib Starnes tho!

It has nothing to do with luck. Lutter is fat and out of shape. It’s not luck that he needs, it’s conditioning. If he didn’t gas so easily he would be a better fighter. The guy throws a few punches, gets a take down, and has a sub attempt, and he’s done. If he can’t get the fight done within the first take down, he’s finished.

You don’t need luck Lutter, you need a bit more tallent, and a lot mroe stamina.

I don’t get it. Franklin trained in submission defense knowing that Jiu Jitsu was Lutter’s only chance of winning, and when he counters a move correctly, it’s I got unlucky from Lutter. That’s bull!! You didn’t get unlucky, you just didn’t give Franklin any credit for having a ground game good enough to neutralize your biggest strength. And pease whatever phantom punch you got hit with 18 seconds in to the fight did not cause you to be gassing at the end of the round. I’m tired of his excuses.

Next will hear, “Rich Franklin will never beat me again” just like Anderson Silva will never beat him again.

The funny thing is, He’s right, they’ll never beat him again because they’ll never have to fight him again. lol

I thought for sure Rich was toast when Lutter put that Arm bar on but…

I think that move took the wind out of Lutter sails and the fact that he only had 4-5 minutes of endurance finished him off. If he wants to compete at that level he’s going to have to be a little like BJ and refocus his training toward cardio. Until then, he’s just always going to get outworked.

I couldn’t agree more with you toms. I wonder what this guy does when training for these fights. He has pretty good skills but he can’t go a full round nevermind 3 or 5. Unless he gets a sub a few minutes into it he wont win a fight anytime soon

I don’t care what anyone says. Lutter is awesome. He’s the average American guy. He fights guys beyond his level and is never scared to engage. I love it! To me, he’s like John McClane or Martin Riggs.

Why dont they Lutter go? First of all he was on a season of TUF called The Comeback, meaning he wasnt a really popular spectacular fighter in the first place. Blows his shot at the title by not making weight and still loses that fight. Comes back to fight Rich Franklin and gets his ass whooped again. He is not an exciting fighter. During the promo piece for the last PPV they kept showing the same 3 highlights over and over compared to the many Franklin had. He is not an important factor in the middleweight division or the UFC at all. The same amount of people would have purchased the PPV if he wasnt fighting Franklin. No one cares about Lutter, especially when he blew the chance of a lifetime by winnin a title shot. He’s already been given THREE second chances: TUF ‘The Comeback,’ The title shot he blew, and a chance to redeeme himself against Franklin. He has failed at all 3. Time to say by by to “Unlucky” Travis.

“I thought I had him. I was really surprised when he was able to roll out.” -Travis Lutter

Did he underestimate Rich Franklin? This guy is either too smart or too dumb for his own good.

Look at the bright side. At least he got one thing right, he made weight.

Check out the vid of the Dean of Mean techno dancing. (Looks just like him though haha)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1nzEFMjkI4

u gassed out! got caught, frankling took the fight as supposed to at that lvl.

Lutter i think ur awesome but dont be like “i could have” .u didnt..

But i dont mind seeing this one going to a rematch, i rly had alot of fun watching that fight!

It looked to me as though the main reason he ‘got caught’ was because he was so gassed he couldn’t even keep his hands up. Like someone else said, it didn’t seem like luck, just bad conditioning.

I also second the Cabana boy motion as I find it equally necessary to anonymously ridicule people who could hurt me.

it almost looked like to me, that he just assumed Rich would tap..next time he’ll break it

Travis didn’t get unlucky. Rich rolls with some of the best BJJ players in the world. That is the reason he rolled out of that arm bar. Rich outclassed Travis in every aspect of MMA.

Travis did not get unlucky against Silva either. His ground and pound was so weak that it didn’t hurt Silva and the technique sucked so bad that he got caught in a triangle. boo.

maybe his next fight could be against demian maia to see who taps first that would be a good 1

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

MANIA…why cant i respond to anyone??? This has been happening all day, i hit “Add Comment”…then nothing is there??

JC!!!

Well at least this should put an end to the argument that he gassed against silva because he was cutting too much weight right before the match and got exhausted during the process. This shows that he gasses regardless after the first round, and ppl were still thinking this guy can beat silva, please…

but i seem to be able to add a new post to thread…pain in the ass

The ONLY thing Travis was HALF AN INCH from….was a Cardiac Arrest!!! Never mind taking a good punch at 18 seconds, he was gassed at 17!

ok seriously losing my patience with this posting sh*t

He will never lose to Silva again ‘cuz he will never fight Silva again.

lutter has to be the dumbest person in mma aside from when ken shamrock was in it whenever he loses he seems to make a excusses or talk shit about how close he was to beating someone he should have never even got a title shot with anderson let alone say he can beat him again the guy is a joke

Rich Franklin sure was lucky he was out of shape.

yeah lutter really annoys me – mostly because he says things like that. he doesn’t seem to comprehend – its not him getting “unlucky” when he can’t finish an opponent.. and looking past Franklin to another fight with Silva was ridiculous.

Lutter being so tired he can barely stand up 5 minutes into a fight isn’t getting “unlucky” either.

get on a treadmill dude!

It looks like Franklin took it easy on him at the end too knowing how gassed Lutter was.. I kept wondering why Franklin didn’t hit him with that straight left he knocked Quarry into next week with…!

Then it seemed like he didn’t really want to pound him too badly knowing he was going to end the fight within about 60 seconds.. one way or the other.

Lutter needs a trip to the Clay Guida school of cardio ASAP.

He couldn’t make weight for Silva and gassed after 1 round against Franklin. I may be way off the mark but making weight and cardio are important for a fighter and the fact you struggle with both is why you get slated.

Sucks to be a losing middleweight from UFC 83, you either retire, get the worse score ever, tapped and choked at the same time, tko’d or look like a gassed out bum.

’sad part is if lutter had anytime of conditioning and standup game, he’d probably be world champion right now. his ground game is sick and he is a top middleweight. he’s in texas so he should just got to greg jacksons camp in new mexico and seriously consider if he wants to continue in this line of work. if he goes the way he his, he’s just gonna be a doormat for up and coming fighters. personally, i like lutter, i think he has all the tools but he needs a good camp which is something he’s always said he never needed, b/c he prefers to train alone, well that doesnt work anymore at this level

What Lutter really meant was “Hey, I was really hoping to finish this in the first round as I came in completely out of shape, and the arm-bar didn’t work out. When we came out in the second round, I knew it was just a matter of time before Rich dominated me as I was so tired, I couldn’t keep my hands up. I was really unlucky in my training as the treadmill was broken.”

This guy won’t let his ego get out of his own way. If he would use real trainers like everyone else in the sport, he might have some conditioning and more than good BJJ.

I guess he’s not retiring huh?

i hope they let him go. not only did that make him look
bad for gassing out so quick, just shows he doesnt derserve a title shot. he cant hang with the top MW. i think he needs to go jogging with professional runner calib starnes. lol

You could have tried that armbar a second time if you didn’t gas out before the bell sounded for the second round!

Rich rolled out of that armbar so quick it wasn’t funny. I don’t really think Travis had him there. Travis just needs to work on his cardio and make sure he makes weight in fights. He was completely gassed after the first round and that’s inexcusable at that level. He wasn’t unlucky in both fights—he was unprepared in both, just coasting on his phenomenal BJJ ability.

Seriously, this guy got beat by two people that are just better than him. And on top that, what beats him every time is his HUGE lack of cardio. He gassed out and got beat by rich.

Why does Lutter think he can win a rematch against anybody and everybody?

You lose the first time for a reason, you douche!!!

that was nice of him to spare franklin’s arm. what a stand up guy. golf clap to that. i second the treadmill recomendation. no more happy workouts!! turn up the intensity bud!!

Travis Lutter is a bit like B.J. Penn a few years ago. He thinks his BJJ skills are hot shit and that he doesn’t need anything else. His BJJ is hot shit, of course, but you cannot be one-dimensional in this game anymore, maybe 5-10 years ago you could get by like that, but no more. B.J. Penn learned his lesson and look where he is now. Lutter, even though everyone says he’s a very intelligent fighter, hasn’t figured out that if you really want to be the champ, you have to be hot shit on the ground, on your feet, in the clinch, and you have to be able to do it for 15+ minutes non-stop.

His cardio in that fight was an embarrassment. How can anyone gas that quickly in just one round. If he worked on his conditioning then he might be taken seriously but until then he will get out worked by most people. Hope he will learn his lesson because he had Franklin in that first round. With better cardio his hands wouldnt be down by his side and he could have maybe taken Rich down and kept the fight there and cause some more trouble.

The one thing that pisses me off about Lutter is his total lack of respect for his opponent’s victory. Be a fucking man and admit that you lost to a better prepared fighter. Period.

I like Lutter, and I believe him when he said he could beat Silva, especially after his fight with Franklin. I didn’t think he could take franklin down, but he did it very convincingly so, and oh so close from ripping his arm out.
Y’all criticizing his cardio….I aint saying he has great cardio but you try to take Ace down and hold him there, plus a kick in the head and tell me you won’t break a sweat. common…..
Lutter is Anderson Silva Criptonite, just too bad he’ll never get there.

Lutter is getting to be as bad as Melvin Guillard after losses. Deny, deny, deny. If he had better cardio he would have fared much, much better…yet here he is, at 35 or 36 years old and he still doesn’t get it. The reason he lost is because his cardio is good for one round.

Hopefully BJ Penn sees this and works the hell out of his cardio. I’d hate to see BJ lose to that boring whats-his-name due to lack of conditioning.

Yeah I totally agree with you guys his cardio did not look good. But he almost had Franklin I give him that. When I saw the arm bar I was oh shit cause I like Franklin. Then when I saw him roll out of it the way he did I was jumping out m seat cause I thought he was done. Then after that Rich dominated the fight and that was the end for Lutter. Lucky or Unlucky I don’t know when your at this stage luck is not a factor. These are skilled individuals but sometimes they don’t have the decipline to get in top shape. at least he didn’t run away like Kalieb or however you write his name.

Coulda, woulda, shoulda….but you didn’t.

Whatever happened or has happened. Lutter needs to work on his cardio. His stand-up was awful after the first couple of exchanges. I understand he has to be frustrated after 2 losses to the best 2 middleweights but to say unlucky is wrong. Get in better shape!!!

This guy has been beaten fair and square in his last two fights! He is always critizing Silva saying that he will never lose to him again? Yeah right he would get beat down hard! Franklin is a good determining factor on wheter you can even come close to hanging with Silva and Luder showed once again, he talks the talk but doenst walk the walk!

His hand was facing the wrong way in the arm bar which gave Rich the possibility to escape. Besides that you gassed man. You need to do Cardio dude. Your lack of discipline is your downfall.

He gets hate mail because he does well for a few minutes and gases. He doesn’t take it seriously enough. That is why people get so upset with him.

I didn’t read all the comments. I apologize if this comment was made.

Lutter lost the arm bar because he did not have Rich’s arm secured properly. It had nothing to do with the leg over the chest and everything to do with Rich’s thumb. Rich’s thumb was supposed to be pointing directly up in the air. It was pointing to Travis’s right shoulder (The “U” on the glove is on the thumbside on the right hand). As Travis bridged, it appears as though he is actually bending Rich’s arm the way it needs to bend (flexing rather than hyperextending) for Rich to perform the white belt level escape. By the time Lutter realized he was bridging the wrong way, Rich rolled out.

As a Machado BJJ student, it is disappointing to see crappy BJJ from a Machado black belt. As a Franklin fan, I was very happy.

I’m really sick of Lutter thinking he’s actually good. Who the hell has he ever beaten? Nobody that’s ever been or ever going to be a top teir fighter. Yes his BJJ is decent. Not great like Lutter thinks it is. Fac is this, dude doesn’t belong in the UFC. He has never come into shape, missed weight, and hasn’t beaten anyone worth wild.
He’s always talking about beating people up. But again, who has he ever beaten up? He knocked out Eastman, I’ll give him that. But anyone watching that fight knows that Lutter couldn’t take him down and use his boring ass fight plan.
Plain and simply, Lutter sucks and is a legend in his own mind. He’s been sub’ed by Lindland (who at most would be a brown belt if even that) and Silva. And he still talks about how he’d beat so and so up. Shut the hell up and win for a change bro.
And I can’t believe I actually put anything down, I’m just sick of this guy running his mouth.

This guy is so pathetic. He says he got unlucky, that’s saying indirectly that Rich got lucky…what an ASS this Lutter is.

LMAO Lutter is ridiculous! He wasn’t close to anything except needing an oxygen mask!

Lutter is a fuckin bastard

Yea, Screw you lutter…….ur washed up and you don’t even know it……..

In that fight you were out of shape.D. White shouldn’t allow you to fight in that condition. In that case boxers will be joking on all UFC fighters if they can’t hold for one round – let alone 12 rounds!

Luck is none of your problems!

top contenders in any weight class should not gas. period. NEVER. u must be prepared to go 5 rounds for every fight, even if it’s just a 3 rounder. for him to say, “i was this and that close to beat anderson and rich” is just total bs. he got out of an armbar, so what, then try again, but for lutter, he just gassed. too bad so and not so sad.

yeah, and Rich was 0 inches away from kickin’ your ass!

I’m just saying I got unlucky…… What!
I’m just saying you just DIDN’T get fit! And then a fighter with much superior fitness and determination kicked your ass. Very disappointing really, Lutter COULD be in the top bunch if he just got his fat ass in shape and didn’t rely 100% on Jujitsu. He’d be a decent under card with bisping, cos Rich will own Bisping no probs

Too bad the ref stopped it early..

It’s ridiculous when people say Lutter “almost” had Silva or Franklin when both guys used technique to escape the mount.

Lutter was gassed AFTER they escaped or reversed him… Silva and Franklin had superior defense… they never even got hurt.