I want to see this fight soo bad.
LOL. Roy Jones is funny…”Dana saying the P-word and all that”..
This fight makes perect sense and shoul happen..Dana please let it happen!
Yeah, but White has no hold on Roy Jones Jr. like he does the other 2 and Anderson. Roy keep up the trash talking, stick it to White!
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Comment by Stagger-Lee
2008-04-22 06:58:54
Dana wont “give in” over shit talk…(imo) He would do it, if he could be deeply involved..Money talks, and Dana does not want to miss out on a big payday.
Comment by Smokes
2008-04-25 13:23:52
No way will Dana ever do this fight. Your right man, money does talk. In this case it talks so much that a possible win from Jones would signify that MMA fights at their best don’t compare to the fighters that focus their skill in a single art. No where in my mind do I think that Jones will embarrass Silva but to a fresh group of MMA or boxing fans the winner says it all for his own sport.
that’s right, RJJ has fought men with undefeated records and made them look like they’d never even fought before, ala james toney. RJJ is 100% right in what he said, dana called out floyd mayweather to fight sean ’steroids’ sherk, and when floyd turned it down dana ran him in the ground with insults, why would floyd fight sherk, floyd goes about 150, and sherk goes about 175-180 naturally.RJJ turned the tables on dana now though, if dana doesn’t let this fight happen, he’ll never again have any right to run boxing in the ground. this is the chance he’s been wanting for a few years to show that mma fighters are better than boxers, and he gets his chance and cowardly backs off. put up or shut up dana boy
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Comment by damaja
2008-04-21 11:42:06
If it’ll go down, it’ll be boxing rules. Anderson would be in trouble. Win or loose though, it’ll be great for MMA and boxing.
Maybe bad for Anderson though… Dana just doesn’t want his “best pound for pound fighter” or “most dominate champion in a division” get PWNED in a boxing ring. Everyone knows it’s a stretch. Same as if RJJ competes MMA.
Comment by jerrolds
2008-04-21 11:52:02
Yep - Roy would wreck Silva in a ring with pure boxing rules, his defense will nullify every attack Silva would throw while Roy will pick him apart and eventually get in the TKO
Comment by SixT-4
2008-04-21 11:53:27
To be fair, Mayweather was the one talking shit about UFC fighters and Dana was trying to make him back it up.
Here, the fight probably just doesn’t make much sense for Dana.
I think Silva would loose, but I doubt he’d be destroyed. I think he’d actually make it a more competitive fight than many think. It would be a different story though if Jones were in his prime. Then I could see Silva taking an early nap.
i hope your joking right. Dana used to be a boxer. As good as anderson silvas striking is, Silva has no shot. Jones. how about you go on youtube and look up his fights from even two years ago..I think you meant, beware what you wish for silva!
Very entertaining interview, I enjoyed. For those interested, Joe Calzaghe did defeat Bernard Hopkins. B-Hop knocked Joe down in the first round, but once the 4th round came, Joe owned the fight.
Joe Calzaghe currently has two big fights that he can look forward to -
Roy Jones - and defeat another US boxing legend
or
Kelly Pavlik - the MW champ, who is a rather large MW and can easily move up, or Calzaghe can move down.
After watching Joe Calzaghe fight again, I am VERY surprised that most “boxing enthusiasts” have him ranked as the #2 or #3 pound for pound fighter. Mayweather #1 and then Manny Paquaio as 2 or 3, depending on Calzaghe. He is an entertaining fighter, but he has a 40 something and 0 record because he spent his whole career fighting overseas not fighting TOP competition. Before fight Bernard Hopkins, the hightlight of his career was knocking out Peter Manfredo Jr - the runner up in season one of The Contender.
Calzage is a top fighter and has fought some proper competition, he out boxed Jeff Lacey a few years back even though he was a big underdog for that fight. There are not enough big name American fighters at Calzages weight to justify trips to the States to fight, the No1 Contenders were from European countries and without American PPV companies behind the fights it made no sense to. Manfredo was a joke fight to try and promote him in the states as people are unaware (intentionally or not) of none American fighters, thats why HW boxing is not such a big draw as it previously was as Eastern Europeans are Champs rather than Holyfield or Lewis.
I agree with the fact that he is too high in the P4P ratings, Mayweather definatley top then Paquia then Cotto then Calzage.
I think that it is getting close to the time to have Miguel Cotto pass Mayweather. ANd this is coming from a Floyd fan. Cotto is just SCARY!!!! He breaks people.
The two of them NEED to fight each other. F*ck Oscar. Fight Cotto. But everyone knows that Money Mayweather is all about the … money, so he will fight Oscar.
I guess all that the Mayweather vs Cotto fans can hope for is that Steve Forbes proves to be the spoiler and defeats Oscar next month. I got my fingers crossed!
And I agree about Manfredo. I was trying to fit the word “practically” into my last sentence.
“Practically thi highlight of his career…” is what I should have put. But for some reason, I was thinking in my head, “hightlight of his career was practically knocking out Peter Manfredo Jr” which made no sense.
If Joe is all that then he would fight Pavlik instead of old men.
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Comment by UKmmaBOY
2008-04-21 10:04:12
He has one fight left in him. He is going for the money which has eluded him his career as there are no American fighters (who draw in the money from PPV sales) in his division.
Jones is the bigger draw. Its like the alleged Tyson-Holyfield fight, all for the money.
Joe is all that, he has been Champ for a decade beating No1 Contenders who are put in front of him, just cos he hasn’t fought State side doesn’t mean he isn’t all that.
Comment by Harry Triangle
2008-04-21 11:12:40
A fight with Pavlik would generate far more interest and give Joe far more credability than fighting an old man like RJJ. If he wants to be known as the best and if u think he is the best then he will fight Pavlik. If he just wants to get paid for fighting someone 10yrs past their prime then he will fight Jones. Besides he knows his girl slapping punches are no match for the power of Pavlick. Kelly would KTFO Joe period.
And unfortunately for Roy, running his mouth about Dana isn’t going to make Dana budge on where is stands. Several people have tried calling out Dana and this and that, but Dana does what Dana wants - he is not influenced by people outside of the UFC. *cough cough* Gary Shaw *cough*
He has let fighters go fight in Pride but he won’t let Anderson just participate in a boxing match. Chuck fought two or three time in Pride and I am sure that Chuck was paid by Pride and it seems like to me unless you are one of Dana’s favorites you can’t go make some extra money. Dana is scared that Anderson might actually win and get a real pay check for a fight and he doesn’t want Anderson to realize that he could be making millions boxing instead of making pennies in the UFC. I personally don’t think that Anderson has a chance in hell against Roy Jones. He looked damn good against Felix Trinidad but I think it’s that big if in the back of Dana’s mind. If he wins and makes some real money in a fight, I might lose the best P4P MMA fighter in the world to boxing because my cheap ass doesn’t pay my fighters enough.
But how would it hurt Anderson Silva as a mixed martial artist if he loses a boxing match. It wouldn’t at all because no one expects Anderson to beat Roy at his own sport. Chuck not only got his ass kicked, but kicked some as in Pride as well so your point doesn’t make alot of sense.
Jones is supposed to be fighting Joe Calzage next.
This is just Jones running his mouth safe in the knowledge that Dana will never ever allow one of his most marketable fighters to fight within another sport or organisation. Its the reason that Fedor wont sign and Silva is not worth as much to UFC as Fedor would potentially be worth.
Maybe Dana would agree to it if Roy Jones offered to give Silva an MMA match in return for the boxing match. He wouldn’t have as much to say after a few knees and a chokehold inside of 30 seconds. Dana needs to do something with Silva anyway, besides let him keep wiping out the whole MW division.
Why? There is nothing wrong with having a guy who creams the whole division. He will lose at some point, as good as he looks at the moment he will lose at some point. The whole point of having a champion is some one who is THE BEST at that weight.
Would you really be bothered if BJ, GSP or Silva dominate their respective divisions? For me it means that they could drop a weight class or move up a weight class for a super fight.
Right now the LW and WW divisions are much deeper than the MW division. So even if Penn and GSP dominate them for a while, there still won’t be a shortage of compelling fights. You have Florian, Huerta, Griffin, Diaz and plenty of others at LW and Fitch, Sanchez, Davis, Koscheck and others at WW. Rich Franklin and Dan Henderson are unquestionably the best non-Silva in the MW division, and Silva has already destroyed Rich twice and Henderson once. After those two the talent levels drop off a cliff.
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Comment by UKmmaBOY
2008-04-21 10:15:31
But loaning Silva out to box or any other organisation does not solve this either. They guy is pure class and we should appreciate his skills more and more for this reason alone. He is head and shoulders above any one else in the MW division and until someone can beat him he deserves all the praise due to him.
dont people realize dana is trying to run a business here?? he can’t have his middleweight champ risk injury in a boxing match, nor can he have the middleweight title on hold so silva can box!
violent mike stick to mma.joe calzage won his first world title nearly 11 years ago outpointing chris eubank.in that time he has dfended it 21 times also picking up the ibf/wba and wbc titles along the way.in his last two fights hes beat the second best smw in the world/kessler and the best lhw in the world hopkins.oh and he destroyed the new mioke tyson lacy.well thats what your press were calling him
Scott - I don’t follow boxing ‘too much’, let alone UK boxing. I have a post above which references what you said.
Also, regarind being a world champion for 11 years - “world titles” in boxing mean absolute CRAP. Everyone invlolved with boxing has had a title at one point in their career. There are 5 belts for every 7 lb differential in weight. If you are a boxer that has had over 30 fights and never held a “world title” you need to quit boxing and start bagging groceries. I don’t care what he did 11 years ago. I care about what he did now. And that was “paw” at Hopkins. I like’d Calzaghe, but he needs to explain why he punches like a cat, or a bitch. I can’t decide which he looks more like…
Jeff Lacy? Jeff Lacy’s biggest fight to date was against ……….. Peter Manfredo, and he couldn’t even put the Pride of Providence away. Lacy has a name because he is on HBO.
Kessler was his biggest win. Didn’t see the fight. Kessler has no name or crowd appeal. Was it a close fight?
Calzaghe is the man right now at LHW. However, he is NOT Top 3 lb for lb IMO.
An undisputed champ is exactley that, beaten all fighters in his respected division and dominated for 11 years. I agree there are Mickey Mouse belts in boxing but Calzage holds more than 1 organisations.
You are right, it wasn’t his best fight, Joe has echoed this and I was actually suprised at the result, i thought Hopkins had it, especially being on home turf. Expect better from him next time
U know Roy if u r such a bad dude why dont u meet Silva in the octagon? There is no one way contract holding u back. Oh thats right, u wont do that because ur that “P” word.
I personally could care less!! Boxing to me isn’t very entertaining and the fight this weekend proves it. Two guys “dancing” for 12 rounds and no one looks like they got in a fight. Where other than a boxing match can a guy get knocked down hard, and come back to etch out a decision?? I realize it’s a pure discipline, but lets lets just keep enjoying anderson silva destroy guys at mw in the ufc
Im a from Philadelphia, so naturally I have much love for B-hop, but Boxing is dead. I have HBO and I could have watched the fight for free but I didnt even bother.
Besides a few entertaining fighters: Cotto and “the Ghost”, I could care less about 2 guys dancing around the ring throwing jabs for 12 rounds with Pillows on their hands!
Speaking of B-hop, its funny that I run into him everywhere in Philly. Usually I catch him driving right next to me on the streets, its happened about 4 times. He isn’t too hard to spot since he is usually driving around the city in a cherry red, drop top Bently (top down) so he isnt that hard to spot. Pretty cool guy, he treats Philly fans great. Earlier this year he was at a sixers game with 2 of the hottest women ever by his side ,1 broad on each arm…. Living the Good life! He is really down to earth and very approachable.
i agree lacy had no rep.but according to your boxing writers he did.and joes punches couldnt have hurt hopkins anyway he has a face like a welders bench.as for lacy did you see his face the elephant man springs to mind.must be hard slaps!!!plus dont start me on”avoid the top fighters at all costs”mayweather.hes beaten an old dlh,plodding baldomir,blown up ww hatton and mental midget judah in the last 2 years .some resume.like you said u know nothing about boxing!!!
I’ll also assume you’re referring to me and can’t figure out how to use the “Reply to this comment” feature yet…
The last boxing fight I payed for (and regretted it) was Mayweather/De La Hoya. I’ll be the first to admit that I no longer pay for my boxing, nor do I watch it all that often. However, when there is a big fight on HBO or Showtime for free, I’ll usually watch it (record and watch next day), as well as when they replay the PPV from the week before.
After “big boxing fights” over the last couple of years, I have mentioned them on this site, but it usually falls upon deaf ears. SCOTT, I’d love to see you on here more often after the bigger boxing fights.
But I don’t think that I am the “odd man out” as far as having Mayweather as #1 lb for lb - that is actually recognized pretty much world wide to my knowledge (RING magazine). Mayweather is all about the money - that’s how he chooses his fights, and with his legacy and PAY DAYS, why risk it?
Joe Calzaghe was throwing “slaps” as opposed to punches. I never said that they weren’t hard slaps. Nick Diaz has KO wins and he doesn’t “appear” to be throwing hard punches. But at least he makes a fist… If Joe had MMA gloves on, he’d be pawing at people like Werdum did to Arlovski = BITCH SLAP!!
Just Curious SCOTT: What odds would Steve Forbes need to be getting for you to bet $10 on? I would consider it at 20-1 (I think its currently 10-1). But after the Felix Sturm fight, I don’t see the Golden Boy ever losing a decision against a “no namer”.
steve forbes is a blown up sfw.i think he was world champ at that weight but hes still cannon fodder.youre right about the dlh/sturm decision though scandalous.i take it back ur quite up to speed on boxing and your comments are always valid.its just that british people are really protective over their fighters.we havnt got that many good ones .ha ha.
If Silva is the UFC’s most marketable fighter…why don’t they pay him like one…he makes a quarter of what Liddell makes for a fight…and that’s if he wins.
Let him fight Roy…and after he gets knocked out…at least he can sit on a payday worth 10 times as much as he would for a UFC fight.
there are 5 boxers that are worth watching these days… kelly pavlik, pac-man, rafael marquez, miguel cotto, and antonio margarito. margarito has been calling out mayweather for years and he’s been ducking him, miguel cotto chooses to let the world call out mayweather for him. mayweather only chooses to fight a) someone he can beat b) oscar de la hoya.
i mean if the money will be there who can blame him. cotto has said how can he be considered the best if you look at his resume. he even said hatton was over rated which we call knew. now i believe the same can be said about cotto’s resume but this guy has improved greatly since i first saw him a few years ago. according to mayweather, cotto and margarito don’t have the drawing power to bring in the money but believe me cotto will bring in much more money than mayweather vs hatton II.
now the fight we should all be looking forward to is cotto vs margarito in july, that will definately be a fight for the ages.
Roy Jones should be trying to get a fight with Joe Calzaghe instead. The only reason he wants Silva is because he knows that this fight will draw alot of money and because Roy Jones Jr. knows he will beat Silva in a boxing match. A fight with Calzaghe would make more sense but I think Roy Jones Jr. knows that Calzaghe would woop his ass. I would also like to see Calzaghe fight Pavlik and Silva fight St. Pierre instead. Or Silva move up to 205 where the real competition is.
O no he didn’t call Dana White a little girl doesn’t he know Dana will slap the boxing gloves on too! this fight has to happen now once they start talking money to Dana White it will happen it’s not like any one else poses a threat to Anderson Silva in the ufc
Am I missing something? The whole reason the UFC was created was to answer the eternal question of who beats who in real combat. Boxer vs Wrestler, Kickboxing vs Judo, and so on. Sure they’ve had to implement some rules to protect the fighters, but it’s a petty good forum for making that determination. The fighters have learned to train in a variety of skills thus forming true MMA. Jones stayed with Boxing, no shame in that at all (the guy’s loaded) but my point is, if a boxer is going to call out a MMA fighter, they should fight in the forum that gives each fighter the chance to best use his skills.Dan Marino had a great arm but he would’nt go pitch for the Marlins to prove it.
This is horse shit, dana is always crying abotu somthing, i want to see this fight too, i would pay out my ass to see it happen, 2x or 3x more than a ufc fight. its a boxing match, anderson isnt going to be hurt any worse than he is in a ufc match
Dana won’t let it happen because it might make the ufc look bad if his #1 fighter gets beat up. which,would indeed happen. I don’t care what anybody says, Roy Jones, even though he’s past his prime, would stop Silva at some point in the fight. But, What if Anderson got past 3 or 5 or maybe even 8 rounds? I’m sure he would land some good punches, and it would break all kinds of pay-per-view records. This scenerio would make the ufc look good and make Dana’s image improve. But it would have to be a sanctioned boxing macth under boxing rules and I’m not sure Dana or UFC could earn anything from it
If Dana White is as smart of a business man as he appears to be, he’ll never let this fight happen. Sounds, like a great fight but it’s not a good match up for a MMA guy to try and box a boxer, not just a boxer but Roy Jones Jr. arguably the best boxer of his time. I am a MMA and boxing fan and they are two completely seperate sports. Anderson Silva is a bad man, and probably the best striker in the world but you add those big gloves and take away his knees, it’s nothing that Roy Jones hasn’t already seen before. Now if Dana can get Roy to enter the octagon it’ll be the complete opposite. Dana stay strong it’s a no win situation!!
Dana White cares about one thing and one thing only… promoting the UFC brand. In turn, making him money and establishes the UFC as the #1 MMA organization in the world. He wants to create a monopoly.
That said, it doesn’t make business since to have a UFC fighter enter a boxing match a) because it discredits the organization… having their champion go to boxing to find a worthy competitor and b) the fight itself is promoting a sporting event OTHER than MMA.
Dana White said if Roy Jones Jr. wants to do the fight under the UFC banner with MMA rules he would sign the contract in a heartbeat.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m a huge fan of both Silva and Jones, I would watch the fight whether it was boxing or mma… I’m just saying boxing won’t happen
the third and final reason this fight will never happen under boxing rules is
c) the SECOND Dana White lets his fighters go and fight for other organizations while still under contract with the UFC, the UFC loses its stronghold on the #1 brand in the world and becomes more like their competitors EliteXC, Adrenaline, Dream… all allow their fighters to fight for other organizations.
You put a guy like Chuck Liddell on HDNet Fights… of course everyone’s going to watch it. The UFC has promoted all these fighters to the point they are almost all household names… another organization acquiring someone of that caliber is a promoter’s dream… it’s instant ratings, quick money.
I want to see this fight soo bad.
LOL. Roy Jones is funny…”Dana saying the P-word and all that”..
This fight makes perect sense and shoul happen..Dana please let it happen!
Ya, great plan. Dana always caves to guys who call him names. Never has his stubbornness stopped him when someone has called him names.
You have to look no further than Tito and Couture to see the wisdom of this negotiating technique.
Yeah, but White has no hold on Roy Jones Jr. like he does the other 2 and Anderson. Roy keep up the trash talking, stick it to White!
Dana wont “give in” over shit talk…(imo) He would do it, if he could be deeply involved..Money talks, and Dana does not want to miss out on a big payday.
No way will Dana ever do this fight. Your right man, money does talk. In this case it talks so much that a possible win from Jones would signify that MMA fights at their best don’t compare to the fighters that focus their skill in a single art. No where in my mind do I think that Jones will embarrass Silva but to a fresh group of MMA or boxing fans the winner says it all for his own sport.
Pound for pound, Roy Jones is the biggest has been fighter in the world.
Given the opportunity, I truly believe that Andersen Silva would utterly rock his world…
I can see Silva accidentally slipping a head kick in there.
I was thinking the same thing. Ramming a knee into Jones’ face would be an automatic reaction (and fun for the fans to watch).
lol, that would be the funniest thing if this boxing match ever did happen!
Haha… yes I see Jones winning and suddenly Silva kneeing him in the face and Roy Jones drops… LOL
Well, you are crazy. RJJ will ruin Silva, seriously, it wouldn’t even be close.
that’s right, RJJ has fought men with undefeated records and made them look like they’d never even fought before, ala james toney. RJJ is 100% right in what he said, dana called out floyd mayweather to fight sean ’steroids’ sherk, and when floyd turned it down dana ran him in the ground with insults, why would floyd fight sherk, floyd goes about 150, and sherk goes about 175-180 naturally.RJJ turned the tables on dana now though, if dana doesn’t let this fight happen, he’ll never again have any right to run boxing in the ground. this is the chance he’s been wanting for a few years to show that mma fighters are better than boxers, and he gets his chance and cowardly backs off. put up or shut up dana boy
If it’ll go down, it’ll be boxing rules. Anderson would be in trouble. Win or loose though, it’ll be great for MMA and boxing.
Maybe bad for Anderson though… Dana just doesn’t want his “best pound for pound fighter” or “most dominate champion in a division” get PWNED in a boxing ring. Everyone knows it’s a stretch. Same as if RJJ competes MMA.
Yep - Roy would wreck Silva in a ring with pure boxing rules, his defense will nullify every attack Silva would throw while Roy will pick him apart and eventually get in the TKO
To be fair, Mayweather was the one talking shit about UFC fighters and Dana was trying to make him back it up.
Here, the fight probably just doesn’t make much sense for Dana.
Your so right, to even suggest that Silva would have a shot is madness. He wouldn’t even have the standard ‘punchers chance’ you have in MMA.
Like the other poster said roy would just cover up with the big gloves and pick Silva apart.
I’m sorry all you Silva lovers, i agree he is an absolute monster in mma but boxing… another story.
his is JONES world. Without kicks SILVA is done. I like SILVA but not against Roy at Boxing. He is (or was) the best. Sorry Anderon, you loose.
I think Silva would loose, but I doubt he’d be destroyed. I think he’d actually make it a more competitive fight than many think. It would be a different story though if Jones were in his prime. Then I could see Silva taking an early nap.
Beware what you wish for Roy!
i hope your joking right. Dana used to be a boxer. As good as anderson silvas striking is, Silva has no shot. Jones. how about you go on youtube and look up his fights from even two years ago..I think you meant, beware what you wish for silva!
spida would get dropped
just the way itis
dana white isn’t afraid of silva getting beat. He is afraid of ufc fighters seeing how much more money boxers make.
lol that’s funny…bet u dana white is pissed off at the spider
Very entertaining interview, I enjoyed. For those interested, Joe Calzaghe did defeat Bernard Hopkins. B-Hop knocked Joe down in the first round, but once the 4th round came, Joe owned the fight.
Joe Calzaghe currently has two big fights that he can look forward to -
Roy Jones - and defeat another US boxing legend
or
Kelly Pavlik - the MW champ, who is a rather large MW and can easily move up, or Calzaghe can move down.
After watching Joe Calzaghe fight again, I am VERY surprised that most “boxing enthusiasts” have him ranked as the #2 or #3 pound for pound fighter. Mayweather #1 and then Manny Paquaio as 2 or 3, depending on Calzaghe. He is an entertaining fighter, but he has a 40 something and 0 record because he spent his whole career fighting overseas not fighting TOP competition. Before fight Bernard Hopkins, the hightlight of his career was knocking out Peter Manfredo Jr - the runner up in season one of The Contender.
Calzage is a top fighter and has fought some proper competition, he out boxed Jeff Lacey a few years back even though he was a big underdog for that fight. There are not enough big name American fighters at Calzages weight to justify trips to the States to fight, the No1 Contenders were from European countries and without American PPV companies behind the fights it made no sense to. Manfredo was a joke fight to try and promote him in the states as people are unaware (intentionally or not) of none American fighters, thats why HW boxing is not such a big draw as it previously was as Eastern Europeans are Champs rather than Holyfield or Lewis.
I agree with the fact that he is too high in the P4P ratings, Mayweather definatley top then Paquia then Cotto then Calzage.
I think that it is getting close to the time to have Miguel Cotto pass Mayweather. ANd this is coming from a Floyd fan. Cotto is just SCARY!!!! He breaks people.
The two of them NEED to fight each other. F*ck Oscar. Fight Cotto. But everyone knows that Money Mayweather is all about the … money, so he will fight Oscar.
I guess all that the Mayweather vs Cotto fans can hope for is that Steve Forbes proves to be the spoiler and defeats Oscar next month. I got my fingers crossed!
And I agree about Manfredo. I was trying to fit the word “practically” into my last sentence.
“Practically thi highlight of his career…” is what I should have put. But for some reason, I was thinking in my head, “hightlight of his career was practically knocking out Peter Manfredo Jr” which made no sense.
WOW, what a retard morning…
If Joe is all that then he would fight Pavlik instead of old men.
He has one fight left in him. He is going for the money which has eluded him his career as there are no American fighters (who draw in the money from PPV sales) in his division.
Jones is the bigger draw. Its like the alleged Tyson-Holyfield fight, all for the money.
Joe is all that, he has been Champ for a decade beating No1 Contenders who are put in front of him, just cos he hasn’t fought State side doesn’t mean he isn’t all that.
A fight with Pavlik would generate far more interest and give Joe far more credability than fighting an old man like RJJ. If he wants to be known as the best and if u think he is the best then he will fight Pavlik. If he just wants to get paid for fighting someone 10yrs past their prime then he will fight Jones. Besides he knows his girl slapping punches are no match for the power of Pavlick. Kelly would KTFO Joe period.
Harsh, Calzaghe has beaten Eubank, Kessler, Hopkins and Kelly.
Just because he hasn’t fought in the states much does not mean he’s ducked competition. How many US boxers go and fight in Europe?
boxing guys like to say that MMA fighters have no class….
And unfortunately for Roy, running his mouth about Dana isn’t going to make Dana budge on where is stands. Several people have tried calling out Dana and this and that, but Dana does what Dana wants - he is not influenced by people outside of the UFC. *cough cough* Gary Shaw *cough*
He has let fighters go fight in Pride but he won’t let Anderson just participate in a boxing match. Chuck fought two or three time in Pride and I am sure that Chuck was paid by Pride and it seems like to me unless you are one of Dana’s favorites you can’t go make some extra money. Dana is scared that Anderson might actually win and get a real pay check for a fight and he doesn’t want Anderson to realize that he could be making millions boxing instead of making pennies in the UFC. I personally don’t think that Anderson has a chance in hell against Roy Jones. He looked damn good against Felix Trinidad but I think it’s that big if in the back of Dana’s mind. If he wins and makes some real money in a fight, I might lose the best P4P MMA fighter in the world to boxing because my cheap ass doesn’t pay my fighters enough.
i think its called learning from your mistakes. Chuck went over there and got his ass kicked and that forever hungover his reign as UFC champ.
I don’t blame Dana at all.
But how would it hurt Anderson Silva as a mixed martial artist if he loses a boxing match. It wouldn’t at all because no one expects Anderson to beat Roy at his own sport. Chuck not only got his ass kicked, but kicked some as in Pride as well so your point doesn’t make alot of sense.
Jones is supposed to be fighting Joe Calzage next.
This is just Jones running his mouth safe in the knowledge that Dana will never ever allow one of his most marketable fighters to fight within another sport or organisation. Its the reason that Fedor wont sign and Silva is not worth as much to UFC as Fedor would potentially be worth.
Maybe Dana would agree to it if Roy Jones offered to give Silva an MMA match in return for the boxing match. He wouldn’t have as much to say after a few knees and a chokehold inside of 30 seconds. Dana needs to do something with Silva anyway, besides let him keep wiping out the whole MW division.
Why? There is nothing wrong with having a guy who creams the whole division. He will lose at some point, as good as he looks at the moment he will lose at some point. The whole point of having a champion is some one who is THE BEST at that weight.
Would you really be bothered if BJ, GSP or Silva dominate their respective divisions? For me it means that they could drop a weight class or move up a weight class for a super fight.
Right now the LW and WW divisions are much deeper than the MW division. So even if Penn and GSP dominate them for a while, there still won’t be a shortage of compelling fights. You have Florian, Huerta, Griffin, Diaz and plenty of others at LW and Fitch, Sanchez, Davis, Koscheck and others at WW. Rich Franklin and Dan Henderson are unquestionably the best non-Silva in the MW division, and Silva has already destroyed Rich twice and Henderson once. After those two the talent levels drop off a cliff.
But loaning Silva out to box or any other organisation does not solve this either. They guy is pure class and we should appreciate his skills more and more for this reason alone. He is head and shoulders above any one else in the MW division and until someone can beat him he deserves all the praise due to him.
dont people realize dana is trying to run a business here?? he can’t have his middleweight champ risk injury in a boxing match, nor can he have the middleweight title on hold so silva can box!
violent mike stick to mma.joe calzage won his first world title nearly 11 years ago outpointing chris eubank.in that time he has dfended it 21 times also picking up the ibf/wba and wbc titles along the way.in his last two fights hes beat the second best smw in the world/kessler and the best lhw in the world hopkins.oh and he destroyed the new mioke tyson lacy.well thats what your press were calling him
Scott - I don’t follow boxing ‘too much’, let alone UK boxing. I have a post above which references what you said.
Also, regarind being a world champion for 11 years - “world titles” in boxing mean absolute CRAP. Everyone invlolved with boxing has had a title at one point in their career. There are 5 belts for every 7 lb differential in weight. If you are a boxer that has had over 30 fights and never held a “world title” you need to quit boxing and start bagging groceries. I don’t care what he did 11 years ago. I care about what he did now. And that was “paw” at Hopkins. I like’d Calzaghe, but he needs to explain why he punches like a cat, or a bitch. I can’t decide which he looks more like…
Jeff Lacy? Jeff Lacy’s biggest fight to date was against ……….. Peter Manfredo, and he couldn’t even put the Pride of Providence away. Lacy has a name because he is on HBO.
Kessler was his biggest win. Didn’t see the fight. Kessler has no name or crowd appeal. Was it a close fight?
Calzaghe is the man right now at LHW. However, he is NOT Top 3 lb for lb IMO.
An undisputed champ is exactley that, beaten all fighters in his respected division and dominated for 11 years. I agree there are Mickey Mouse belts in boxing but Calzage holds more than 1 organisations.
You are right, it wasn’t his best fight, Joe has echoed this and I was actually suprised at the result, i thought Hopkins had it, especially being on home turf. Expect better from him next time
im no that big of a boxing fan these days, but wouldnt Pavlick/Calzage be a good match up?
U know Roy if u r such a bad dude why dont u meet Silva in the octagon? There is no one way contract holding u back. Oh thats right, u wont do that because ur that “P” word.
I personally could care less!! Boxing to me isn’t very entertaining and the fight this weekend proves it. Two guys “dancing” for 12 rounds and no one looks like they got in a fight. Where other than a boxing match can a guy get knocked down hard, and come back to etch out a decision?? I realize it’s a pure discipline, but lets lets just keep enjoying anderson silva destroy guys at mw in the ufc
Kaleb danced for 15 mins!! With you 100% on Silva, long live the spider!
lol Quarry looked the best he ever looked, but you wouldn’t know (average fan) because of Kaleb’s antics)
He looked like a machine, a bit like Cro Cop at his best, stalking and moving forwards.
Im a from Philadelphia, so naturally I have much love for B-hop, but Boxing is dead. I have HBO and I could have watched the fight for free but I didnt even bother.
Besides a few entertaining fighters: Cotto and “the Ghost”, I could care less about 2 guys dancing around the ring throwing jabs for 12 rounds with Pillows on their hands!
Speaking of B-hop, its funny that I run into him everywhere in Philly. Usually I catch him driving right next to me on the streets, its happened about 4 times. He isn’t too hard to spot since he is usually driving around the city in a cherry red, drop top Bently (top down) so he isnt that hard to spot. Pretty cool guy, he treats Philly fans great. Earlier this year he was at a sixers game with 2 of the hottest women ever by his side ,1 broad on each arm…. Living the Good life! He is really down to earth and very approachable.
Manny Pacquiao is the most entertaining fighter today.
I forgot all about him, I cant argue with that! Pacquiao is very entertaining.
i agree lacy had no rep.but according to your boxing writers he did.and joes punches couldnt have hurt hopkins anyway he has a face like a welders bench.as for lacy did you see his face the elephant man springs to mind.must be hard slaps!!!plus dont start me on”avoid the top fighters at all costs”mayweather.hes beaten an old dlh,plodding baldomir,blown up ww hatton and mental midget judah in the last 2 years .some resume.like you said u know nothing about boxing!!!
In VMs defense this isn’t a boxing forum and he posts enough quality opinions on MMA.
I’ll also assume you’re referring to me and can’t figure out how to use the “Reply to this comment” feature yet…
The last boxing fight I payed for (and regretted it) was Mayweather/De La Hoya. I’ll be the first to admit that I no longer pay for my boxing, nor do I watch it all that often. However, when there is a big fight on HBO or Showtime for free, I’ll usually watch it (record and watch next day), as well as when they replay the PPV from the week before.
After “big boxing fights” over the last couple of years, I have mentioned them on this site, but it usually falls upon deaf ears. SCOTT, I’d love to see you on here more often after the bigger boxing fights.
But I don’t think that I am the “odd man out” as far as having Mayweather as #1 lb for lb - that is actually recognized pretty much world wide to my knowledge (RING magazine). Mayweather is all about the money - that’s how he chooses his fights, and with his legacy and PAY DAYS, why risk it?
Joe Calzaghe was throwing “slaps” as opposed to punches. I never said that they weren’t hard slaps. Nick Diaz has KO wins and he doesn’t “appear” to be throwing hard punches. But at least he makes a fist… If Joe had MMA gloves on, he’d be pawing at people like Werdum did to Arlovski = BITCH SLAP!!
Just Curious SCOTT: What odds would Steve Forbes need to be getting for you to bet $10 on? I would consider it at 20-1 (I think its currently 10-1). But after the Felix Sturm fight, I don’t see the Golden Boy ever losing a decision against a “no namer”.
steve forbes is a blown up sfw.i think he was world champ at that weight but hes still cannon fodder.youre right about the dlh/sturm decision though scandalous.i take it back ur quite up to speed on boxing and your comments are always valid.its just that british people are really protective over their fighters.we havnt got that many good ones .ha ha.
If Silva is the UFC’s most marketable fighter…why don’t they pay him like one…he makes a quarter of what Liddell makes for a fight…and that’s if he wins.
Let him fight Roy…and after he gets knocked out…at least he can sit on a payday worth 10 times as much as he would for a UFC fight.
there are 5 boxers that are worth watching these days… kelly pavlik, pac-man, rafael marquez, miguel cotto, and antonio margarito. margarito has been calling out mayweather for years and he’s been ducking him, miguel cotto chooses to let the world call out mayweather for him. mayweather only chooses to fight a) someone he can beat b) oscar de la hoya.
i mean if the money will be there who can blame him. cotto has said how can he be considered the best if you look at his resume. he even said hatton was over rated which we call knew. now i believe the same can be said about cotto’s resume but this guy has improved greatly since i first saw him a few years ago. according to mayweather, cotto and margarito don’t have the drawing power to bring in the money but believe me cotto will bring in much more money than mayweather vs hatton II.
now the fight we should all be looking forward to is cotto vs margarito in july, that will definately be a fight for the ages.
Yes indeed. Too bad someone couldnt’ FORCE Mayweather to fight the winner.
And the first shot was fired.
Roy Jones should be trying to get a fight with Joe Calzaghe instead. The only reason he wants Silva is because he knows that this fight will draw alot of money and because Roy Jones Jr. knows he will beat Silva in a boxing match. A fight with Calzaghe would make more sense but I think Roy Jones Jr. knows that Calzaghe would woop his ass. I would also like to see Calzaghe fight Pavlik and Silva fight St. Pierre instead. Or Silva move up to 205 where the real competition is.
PLEASE DANA PLEASE!! Cmon I Need To See This Fight Happen. Someone Start A Website Petition Or Something.
We Need To Show Dana How Many People Want To See This Fight.
O no he didn’t call Dana White a little girl doesn’t he know Dana will slap the boxing gloves on too! this fight has to happen now once they start talking money to Dana White it will happen it’s not like any one else poses a threat to Anderson Silva in the ufc
LOL, Roy Jones isn’t afraid to fight Anderson Silva, but the thought of Dana White lacing up the gloves terrifies him! LOL
lol, fighters should be allowed to fight who they want!
time for the MMA FIGTHERS UNION!!
Am I missing something? The whole reason the UFC was created was to answer the eternal question of who beats who in real combat. Boxer vs Wrestler, Kickboxing vs Judo, and so on. Sure they’ve had to implement some rules to protect the fighters, but it’s a petty good forum for making that determination. The fighters have learned to train in a variety of skills thus forming true MMA. Jones stayed with Boxing, no shame in that at all (the guy’s loaded) but my point is, if a boxer is going to call out a MMA fighter, they should fight in the forum that gives each fighter the chance to best use his skills.Dan Marino had a great arm but he would’nt go pitch for the Marlins to prove it.
Calzaghe will make him cry.
RJJ would dance and win on points.
Boxing isn’t MMA - it would be snore fest and Silva would lose in the most irritating way possible.
This is horse shit, dana is always crying abotu somthing, i want to see this fight too, i would pay out my ass to see it happen, 2x or 3x more than a ufc fight. its a boxing match, anderson isnt going to be hurt any worse than he is in a ufc match
I think that the 2 fighters should meet in the middle, let them fight with boxing rules but using mma gloves.
Dana won’t let it happen because it might make the ufc look bad if his #1 fighter gets beat up. which,would indeed happen. I don’t care what anybody says, Roy Jones, even though he’s past his prime, would stop Silva at some point in the fight. But, What if Anderson got past 3 or 5 or maybe even 8 rounds? I’m sure he would land some good punches, and it would break all kinds of pay-per-view records. This scenerio would make the ufc look good and make Dana’s image improve. But it would have to be a sanctioned boxing macth under boxing rules and I’m not sure Dana or UFC could earn anything from it
Dana wont allow it, because he does not permit his fighters to make Million’s for 1 fight..Only Dana want’s to make a shit load of a PPV, he promotes
If Dana White is as smart of a business man as he appears to be, he’ll never let this fight happen. Sounds, like a great fight but it’s not a good match up for a MMA guy to try and box a boxer, not just a boxer but Roy Jones Jr. arguably the best boxer of his time. I am a MMA and boxing fan and they are two completely seperate sports. Anderson Silva is a bad man, and probably the best striker in the world but you add those big gloves and take away his knees, it’s nothing that Roy Jones hasn’t already seen before. Now if Dana can get Roy to enter the octagon it’ll be the complete opposite. Dana stay strong it’s a no win situation!!
Dana White cares about one thing and one thing only… promoting the UFC brand. In turn, making him money and establishes the UFC as the #1 MMA organization in the world. He wants to create a monopoly.
That said, it doesn’t make business since to have a UFC fighter enter a boxing match a) because it discredits the organization… having their champion go to boxing to find a worthy competitor and b) the fight itself is promoting a sporting event OTHER than MMA.
Dana White said if Roy Jones Jr. wants to do the fight under the UFC banner with MMA rules he would sign the contract in a heartbeat.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m a huge fan of both Silva and Jones, I would watch the fight whether it was boxing or mma… I’m just saying boxing won’t happen
(adding to my previous comment)…
the third and final reason this fight will never happen under boxing rules is
c) the SECOND Dana White lets his fighters go and fight for other organizations while still under contract with the UFC, the UFC loses its stronghold on the #1 brand in the world and becomes more like their competitors EliteXC, Adrenaline, Dream… all allow their fighters to fight for other organizations.
You put a guy like Chuck Liddell on HDNet Fights… of course everyone’s going to watch it. The UFC has promoted all these fighters to the point they are almost all household names… another organization acquiring someone of that caliber is a promoter’s dream… it’s instant ratings, quick money.