Somewhere in Montreal Dana White is wiping his brow.
Last night Georges St. Pierre righted the welterweight ship, dominating Matt Serra and reclaiming his undisputed 170-pund title in front of a hometown crowd.
As predicted, a vengeful GSP did what he was supposed to do in their first encounter and destroyed Matt Serra via TKO. “The Terror” never had a chance to get anything going after the bell sounded and while he may be remembered as merely a footnote on the career of GSP, that potential match against Matt Hughes is still out there.
When I interviewed Georges St. Pierre in February of 2007, he told me that he would “definitely” move up in weight to challenge the middleweight champion. Assuming he can get past Jon Fitch and perhaps a rematch with BJ Penn, does a superfight against Anderson Silva exist somewhere down the road?
Travis Lutter went out there yesterday against Rich Franklin and did what he does best: Squander his own opportunities. Lutter was controlling round one and could have potentially done the same in rounds two and three — had he been capable of actually breathing on his own.
Lutter, like so many before him, showed the world of MMA just how important it is to be in peak physical condition. After all, the better your conditioning, the easier it is to run from your opponent ala Kalib Starnes.
There were questions surrounding Starnes desire and heart going into UFC 83 and last night’s peformance did nothing to help his cause. Nor did the obscenities and crowd bashing. Nate Quarry looked good physically – maybe a little too good. Or maybe there was nothing else to focus on since Starnes refused to engage.
And speaking of engaging, Michael Bisping looked like a completely different fighter against Charles McCarthy. “The Count” showed very clean stand-up and battered McCarthy after some early danger. It’s way too early for the likes of Rich Franklin, but someone in the UFC should push for Bisping to start battling some bigger names.
Mac Danzig is trying to prove he’s no flash in the pan, and though a little tepid in round one, Danzig finally turned up the heat and softened up Mark Bocek before choking him out. Mac is loaded with talent but unfortunately so is the rest of the lightweight division.
Things are getting even more interesting in the chase for 155-lb gold.
Kenny Florian did a decent job filling in for Joe Rogan but despite the negative press Rogan sometimes gets I can admit to missing his act last night.
UFC 83: “Serra vs. St. Pierre 2″ was a good card but not filled with many surprises. However, there is little time to reflect on the feud since UFC 84 is right around the corner and we have another he/said he/said argument about who is the better fighter.
For complete blow-by-blow, round-by-round coverage of UFC 83, as well as final results for all the bouts, click here.
Below is a list of bonus recipients from UFC 83:
- Demian Maia picked up the submission of the night ($75,000)
- Goulet and Hironaka won fight of the night ($75,000)
- MacDonald earned the KO of the night ($75,000)
What did you think of the event? Let us hear about it in the comments section including the win/loss totals from your pre-fight picks!
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Maia’s “submission” was incredible. He really punished Herman.
i would have to agree with that statement. maia’s jiu-jitsu is gotta be in the top 5 in the ufc. this guy just amazes me on the ground!! cant wait to see him fight on a main card!!
Maia’s jiu jitsu is arguably top 5 in the WORLD, let alone the UFC. Compile a list of the top jiu-jitsu/grappling tournament practitioners @ 185 (or heavier), and Maia has likely defeated them in competition. Napao Gonzaga, Ronaldo “Jacare”, Flavio Almeida, Yushin Okami, and Gustavo Machado (to name just a few) have all lost to Maia in BJJ, and he has quite a resume:
* 2007 ADCC Submission Wrestling World Champion
* 2007 Super Challenge under-83kgs Champion
* 2006 Pan American Champion
* 2005 ADCC Submission Wrestling World Runner-Up
* Three-time World Cup champion
* Two-time World Champion
* Brazilian champion
* 7x state champion
* 4x Brazilian team champion
Can he be defeated? Of course, but I think it will take another world class athlete to do it. I predict that Maia will remain undefeated until he faces the likes of Ace Franklin, Nate Marquardt, or The Spider himself.
i often wondered why kalib starnes has been on ppv fight cards, this is not the first time he has ran a marathon! Overall fights were better then i thought they would be. Cant wait for the next one!!! Thanks ufc for the free ppv fights on AFN overseas, one of the few things that keeps me going over here!
i love it! serra got dominated and will likely fight hughes, and st-pierre proves that serra isn’t even on the same level as him. who ever thinks st-pierre isn’t the best in the welterweight division is kidding themselves, he was two steps ahead of serra that whole fight. franklin’s standup was impressive, he and henderson need to fight. i think starnes should be done in the ufc, you can’t run away the whole fight and expect to be around for long…
Just one Comment,
MATT “BUSTER DOUGLAS” SERRA. WHAT A JOKE!
ace and hendo would be sick
Silva would kill gsp
No he wouldn’t.
yeah he would, wouldn’t be even close, sorry.
The only true test for Anderson at this point is to move to LHW and fight Rampage. Gsp is a great fighter but he’s not ready for The Spider.
what makes you think gsp can’t put the spider on the ground and beat him up? give gsp 2 more title defenses and he will end the spiders winning streak
keep dreaming :p
GSP would fight Silva, then he’ll loose. Then when he rematches, he’ll train-train-train then… he MIGHT be able to win the second time.
GSP is the most gifted athlete there is in the UFC, you can’t ever count a person like that out even if he was fighting Giant Silva. He has no weaknesses. Silva is easy to defeat, just no one has done it yet cause all his opponents want to stand and trade with him.
Dude, I think even I have a chance of beating that freak giant silva LOL. as for anderson being easy, I’m sorry c-war, I know we usually differ in opinions but I at least looked at you as someone who understood the game, well, guess I was wrong. I have no doubt in my mind that silva would beat gsp, hands down, but I’d never say gsp is easy to beat. we have to respect the athletes that deserves respect, and that goes for both gsp and the spider.
st pierre faces harder comp on the reg..st pierre would control and dominate anderson..i cant wait till it happens so i can put about a thousand dollars on st. pierre
GSP is twice the wrestler Lutter is and Lutter took Silva down at will.
…and you know that because? Ah… it’s your crystal ball!
gsp would take him down and beat him up like he didpast 3 fights. his wrestling would dominate Silva…but striking GSP would get KOd (as anyone else would) against silva
Yeah his wrestling would dominate Silva just like Henderson’s wrestling was “supposed” to dominate Silva, and Marquart’s ground game was “supposed” to dominate Silva, and Lutter was supposed to submit Silva.
Sorry to say, but I would not bet on GSP dominating Silva either. I hope it happens though, it would be a great fight.
Actually, Hendo was dominating for pretty much the whole first round. Clearly everyone knows Silva’a weakness is wrestling, though it may not be a very big weakness, it’s a weakness none the less. I think Silva would be too big for GSP to be honest, but if they were at some catch weight it would be a really interesting fight. They both have very nice stand-up styles, though yeah Silva is bigger and probably more crisp. On the ground, it would be a damn good wrestler against a damn good BJJ black belt. I think that fight would be amazing if GSP could bulk up enough.
Hendo won the first round, but never had Silva in any real danger. The only thing he could do was cover his mouth. Big deal, I still don’t call that domination.
im glad serra lost, i hope hughes breaks him in half. st-pierre is the best welterweight period. i hope franklin and henderson fight, that would be good
1. Kalib Starnes just earned his way out of the UFC. I see 0 chance Dana and Joe ever put him on a main card at any event. And, if he loses his next fight, regardless of who it is, he’s out all together. Quarry pulled the Screech fighting method down the last 10 seconds of the fight, and Starnes still ran away from him. That’s just sad. Peace out Kalib.
2. I’m glad as can be GSP won. I figured it would be a little closer than it was, but, I’m cool with the outcome. Now, GSP can dominate the welterweight division for a little while, maybe fight Penn again, then move up and have one of the greatest matchups the UFC can offer in GSP vs Silva. And, Silva might win that, but now way is it a hands down “kill” against GSP.
3. Rich Franklin is one of the best guys in the UFC. Awesome guy. Great fighter. Glad to see him win. Travis Lutter on the other hand, is terrible, and should be relegated to lesser names. He had Franklin mounted twice and got nothing. Had what looked to me as a fight ending armbar, and how Franklin spun out of it without tearing everything in his shoulder is beyond me. That was pretty awesome, and just shows how good Ace really is.
4. Bisping is legit. Love him or hate him, he’s good.
And 5. I need to be brought on staff so I can cover MMA for a living. I’m even willing to travel to Las Vegas or wherever for all the UFC shows.
I agree about Starnes. That guy should start (or continue) training for a 10K or something. How he can come out and beat Leben then turn around and turn in a perfomance like that is beyond me. Franklin proved once again that he is the unquestioned second best MW in the UFC. It sucks he’s not going to get his title back until Silva gets bored with it because he’s one of my favorites.
#5 sounds good
Yeah, I want to second the AFN comment. Thanks UFC ! I look forward to each fight while away from home. It helps !!!
Look out GSP, FITCH is coming to take the belt back to America !!!
ok i was the one that said serra would win and i was wrong! serra is still my boy, but i will give gsp his credit.
but there is NO WAY gsp could touch silva. i don’t think he can get past bj this time as well. gsp if ur smart stay in ur divison.
now that i lost money on the serra fight… i have to sell one of my kidneys and my left nut to pay ppl back!
lol I don’t recommend ever betting on another fight again if you threw down on Serra.
That was a great card last night although none of the fights were split decisions.
Very impressed with Bisping last night! He looks 100% focused on being the best now. I didn’t buy what he said about being a natural 185 and not having to cut weight. A year and half ago his camp talked about him dropping down but then he said he couldn’t do it. Losses to Hammil and Rashad Evans probably convinced him to give up the beer.
I’m glad to see a scary Nate Quarry back. He can really hit! Not sure what was up with Starnes but his UFC career should be deep six’d now. That was a disgusting display of cowardice. The one judge who scored it 30-24 deinitely thought so.
Lastly I thought KenFlo (ughhh!) did a great job filing in! He was Rogan minus the stand-up ability (as in comedy this time). He’s got a place in the broadcast booth after he hangs up the gloves in my opinion.
Hell that was a 30-24 by default, if you don’t do ANYTHING, you don’t even deserve a 9… hell if the ref would of deducted points by not intelligently defending himself by turning and running it could very easily have been 30-21.
Just on the basis of “not intelligently defending yourself”, the ref could have stopped it while both were standing up.
GSP versus Silva might happen because they’re unbeatable in their class (except puncher’s chance). I’d rather not see them fight and one take a loss even if it’s only exhibition. Preserve the sanctity of the weight class system!
kenflo was good, damn 75 grand… not a bad bonus
i gotta say, if GSP can get silva on his back and just pound him out and avoid getting into a body lock/submission, he can actually make it a fight even though theres that difference in weight class. and GSP always looks so damn big for a welterweight.
As the article says….Their were no real surprises but it was a great card and kept our attention throughout.
Both Serra and GSP showed a ton of class after the fight.
I think Dana White needs to do himself a favor and never let Kalib Starnes get a fight on PPV again. Let him finish his contract out on prelims and then let him sign with some third rate MMA promotion doing county fairs and carnivals for Mormon missionaries. He was a joke on the Ultimate Fighter and other then a few glimmers of hope on his record, his career can be remembered for his incesent whinning and now the UFC Marathon.
Travis Lutter is another joke. I have never had a problem making weight, give me the champ-I am the one guy that is asking for a title shot because nobody else is lining up and asking for the opportunity-The one thing he forgot to mention is that he has to win in the first 2 minutes or else he is going to run out of gas like a Hummer(H1), with a ten gallon gas tank, riding down Route 666. How can you call yourself a profesional anything and not be able to engage for 5 minutes. I have seen old men with emphysema that have more stamina then Lutter displayed last night. We kind of accepted him gassing the last time since he was cutting weight at the last minute, even though he months to prepare for 185#, but mistakes ad miscalcutalions happen so whatever. But there was no excuse this time. He had at least 4 months to train for this fight. He looked like a fish out of water sitting in his corner between rounds.
I like GSP-He is an amazing fighter in my top 5 favorites. But I do not think he is on the level of Anderson Silva. I also do not think he would get by a BJ Penn rematch. He is young and most definetly will be the future of the sport, but I do not think he gon the level of BJ or Silva just yet-keyword, Just YET! He will be and is tettering right now but just not yet…
bj penn wont get past sherk ,gsp would kick his ass
Just like GSP kicked BJ’s ass the first time? BJ will beat Sherk, then have one hell of a fight with GSP.
He layed and prayed after getting mauled the first round and a half. Wow He killed BJ Penn….
***Welcome MMAManiiacs to My Sunday Morning Rant!***
Just like I suspected it was a crappy Card, filled with mismatches. Most of last nights aired fights were not close to being competitive and some of the opponents from last night should never fight in the UFC again.
My analysis:
Main Event: For months I have been saying that GSP would dominate this fight. I knew what the outcome would be, I just wasnt sure what kind of a fight that it would be. To Everyone’s surprise GSP chose not o trade with Serra. That shows the respect GSP has for his heavyhands. I say it all the time: When one of the greats in our sport has that fire in his eyes, it doesnt matter what the opponent will do. Like I said, GSP would show just how mentally tough he really is. I would like to show my appreciation to the class that Serra and GSP displayed last night. They did an amazing job at hyping up this mis match and when the fight was over the embraced and showed nothing but Class! GSP vs. Serra III in Madison Square Garden? WOW!!!
Franklin vs. Lutter: All you upset thirsty fans who picked lutter look silly this morning. 1st of all, shame on the UFC’s marketing team for leading so many fans into actually believing that Lutter is a worthy competitor because he is far from that. He is a joke who doesnt belong at the top of the division. This guy has some of the worst cardio I have ever seen, and he can take a punch about as well as Paul Georgieff.
Lutter clowned himself by looking past Franklin and calling out Silva. People talk about Lutter like he is a GOD on the ground, but I dont see anything special. His Ju Jitsu is very good, but in no way is it any better than other middleweights like: Almeida, Maia, Thales Leites. Lutter is not a top 10 fighter in th4e UFC. the guy can not fight for more than 1 round with out gassing.
Once again Rich proved that he is still very hard to beat by anyone not named Anderson Silva. In Rich’s pre fight interviews, he was not willing to look past Lutter and speculate on Future opponents because he didnt like to look past opponents. On the other hand, all Lutter did was run his mouth about Anderson Silva, and now that fight wont ever happen….Lutter is a JOKE! I hope to never see him on a main card again. he is not the only middleweight with great ju jitsu. The other great ground wizards bring some solid striking and conditioning to the table so Lutter is pretty worthless to the division IMO. Let Lutter fight McDonald…2 pussies should square off!
As for Bisping, he looked great at middlewight. Not so much the fight because we cant really evaluate him since he was fighting the weakest middleweight in the world…McCarthy looked like a complete joke. People wonder why we all call him “Tuppaware”!
Tuppaware looked like Tito Ortiz (covering up in a ball the whole fight while Bisping Teed OFF! That fight was just like Liddell vs. Tito part 2. Leave it to a McCaqrthy to make Bisping look like Chuck Liddell. I will officially boycott any future UFC event that McCarthy will be participating in…This guy is a complete Joke and he should never again have the honor of competing inb the UFC Octagon!
Mac looked OK! I was impressed with his win, but I dont think he looked all that great last night. IMO he looked pretty slow and not very fluent. I dont know maybe I am being a litle to critical of him, but he will have to be better if he wants to compete against better lightweights. Overall submitting Bocek was impressive.
Kailb, like lutter and McCarthy should all be cut from the UFC. I am no fan of Quarry, but I have to admit that was the best I have seen him look in a long time. For once, he did nopt look Robotic, he looked fluid, he let the hands and those Nasty leg Kicks fly, while Kalib ran around and then talked crap! What a joke of a fight.
Overall I did well last night. The only fight I bet on that I lost was the Doerkson fight. I had El Dirte in that fight and the athlete beat him. I went 5-1 last night, but did not win all that much money because most of the fighters I bet on where Heavy Favorites so I didnt win too much on each bet. However I am happy to pocket another $325 from last nights action!!!
Props to Kenny Florian, who did a great job filling in for Rogan who’s presence was missed!
happy to get this mediocre event out of the way and now we can start counting down to a real event: UFC 84!!!!!
Cant wait for that 1!
Well put john, couldn’t agree more. When I watch any MMA event with my buddies, I’m the only one who seems to know what he’s remotely talking about, they’re all mainstream fans I guess you could say. They all fell for the hype around several of the fighers untill I had to tell them just how one-sidded almost every fight was on the card. Again, well put.
Also, to all you people who were sooooo sure of your boy Serra….HA! GSP ROCKS!!!
I didn’t bet much either because of the disparity in the odds, but won on Franklin and McDonald. I did, however, impress all my rugby-playing buddies who bet on all the underdogs and hope for upsets when I called Mac’s gogoplata before Florian announced it. They were like, “hey, that guy on TV said the same thing. PW knows his stuff.” And I was all, “damn straight. Recognize, bitches.”
Agreed with everything except Lutter. He has all the potential in the world but is only dangerous in no more than a minute!!!! His cardio sucks donkey balls. He doesn’t even give Alberto Crane a run for his money in that department. Worst in the UFC by far. However, If he could build some stamina, I could see him being at the top of the weight class. He pretty much dominated Franklin before he started huffin for air.
On another note, is Kalib Starnes trying to end his contract in the UFC? They pay him to fight, we pay to see him fight, and then he doesn’t fight? 30-24! I loved it when they called that out. Quarry basically gave Starnes free-will to do what he wanted to him with ten seconds left, and he still ran, WTF!!!!! He just earned himself a first class ticket out of the UFC. So happy, 30-24 put him in his place. I think another one was 30-26 but I don’t recall the last score card. I also enjoyed how the crowd went from boos to cheers in a heartbeat like 3 different times as the jumbo-tron switched from Starnes to Quarry. I think the camera man did that on purpose, it was awesome though. Glad to see Quarry looking like a contender, he looked great.
The rest of the matches went as expected except I thought Herman might pull out a victory. I didn’t get to watch that fight, but Maia seems like a number one contender soon.
i was one of thos silly fans who picked lutter. he looked like he might be able to do it for 1rnd. i dont feel nearly as stupid as the guys who picked against gsp. they know who they are and they have been in hiding.
you are an idiot
who are you and who are you caling an idiot?
Dude John are you F’ing kidding me? You have been saying that Serra would put up a good fight for ages!! I know this becuae I was saying that to, how you gonna go and say you’ve been saying that serra would get dominated all along?
That thing with Quarry was the funniest thing I’ve every seen in the octagon! I was waiting for Starnes to cold cock him after the fight, but why would he if he didn’t during the fight. Starnes should never fight agian, sad that guys give up their lives to be in the UFC and Starnes is runing from his fights.
the bar i was in last night was too loud to appreciate the roar of the bell centre…hwo loud was it? anyone there that can testify?
from my tv it didnt sound or seem any crazier than any other UFC.
Hey did anybody see gsps chest tattoo had been lazered off? FItch is probably going to get his removed now too.
THE BEST THING TO HAPPEN TO GSP WAS THE FIRST LOSS BECAUSE HE NOW LOOKS UN STOPPABLE AS FAR AS ANDERSON SILVA IF HE COMES DOWN TO 170 HE LOOSES IF GSP GOES UP HE PROBABLY LOOSES MAYBE WE COULD DO A CATCH WEIGHT OF 180
Goulet won fight of the night??
PPV was pretty good overall. Starnes should never enter the Octagon again, One would think that they would want to perfom well in front of their own countrys fans. Quarry, looked good and entered the crowd as well. Hopefully GSP vs. Serra 3 will be announce soon. If not, then GSP vs. Fitch should fight on a card that includes Serra vs. Hughes. I find it unfortunate that Lutter, who talked up a storm coming into the fight, choose to not be conditioned properly, as he gassed after one round. I think that the middleweight division is a little better than everyone thinks. Its just that Silva is so far up and Franklin is below him, then after them there is a group like Almeida, Okami, Quarry, Cote, Marquardt, Leben and others that have to battle it out and see who is the number one contender(tournament would be great). Can’t wait for the Ill Will PPV next month
I find it interesting you call it a pretty good ppv then detail what was wrong. It’s buyer’s remorse. Lots of us have it. It was crap.
Gsp is not on the same leval as silva, Silva would desroy la pu
It dosnt evan matter he wont get past jon fitch
those fight salaries are getting huge and demian maia is the man. Bisping looked good because mccarthy just covered up and occasionally threw a wild punch and barely tried to take him down. im surprised goulets fight was fight of the night. compared to the rest of the fights i saw it was good but overall i thought it was a pretty average fight.
did anyone else notice that matt serra was knocked out for the first 3 knees at the end of the fight??if u watch serras head its flopping around like hes a dead man and then he pops up/wakes up just as st. pierre skinned him with the 4th knee..mania can u possibly get a clip of this?
Starnes and Mcarthy both made me sick. It’s a good thing we have so many great fighters joing the 185 lb. division, but those guys need to go.
And wow, I was really impressed with Bocek. Danzig is no joke a he was running through guys at welter weight. Props to Danzig for pullinbg it out though!
Lutter, wow man, get with it.
Bisping, you know, I was mad at him for awhile, but I’m over it, besides he looked sharp. (even though it was against capt. miserable) Better compititon for him please! I still think he lost to Hamill, but it’s in the past now and I think he’ll do great at 185
And of course, everybody give it up for GSP. Matt Serra will always be a hero of mine, but the future truly became the present today.
Wish I could see the Damian Maia fight!
Can’t wait till May 24th!
Oh and when they made the official decision for Quarry and Starnes, It was just Hilarious. When the camer showed Nate : Cheesy smile and a ton of cheers! When they showed Kalib : Boos from his home country. (ouch, that’s gotta hurt) Camera back to Nate : Cheesy smile and more cheers! Hilarious.
And did you catch Starnes talking smack and saying F-U to one of Quarry’s cornermen? What a joke, go home Starnes, oh wait they don’t like you there either!
with gsp and franklin and bisping all getting tko’s, and macdonald throwing in some late hits, im surprised he got ko of the night.
lol silva move to lhw for rampage?? why does everyone think that rampage is industructable? silva needs to stay where hes at..gsp needs to stay where hes at end of story!
Worst event in a very long time. 6 fights. 4 were shitty. With all the talent, there’s no reason to keep watching the Starnes, McCarthy, and Lutters of the mma world. Even Matt Serra disappointed me with almost zero offense. Looks like the undercard must have been good. But Zuffa would miss out on the on demand revenue by broadcasting so no need to show all the fights, especially when alien vs predator needs to be hyped. What a joke of an organization.
go watch Never Back Down
Kalib Starnes will come back with some excuses just you wait.
…That was hands down the worst performance in the history of the UFC… most of these guys, even when they’re scared… will go out and give it their all… 99 percent of the guys in the UFC are there for a reason… Starnes has no buisness being in the cage. He looks like a leprechaun.
did anyone else notice that matt serra was knocked out for the first 3 knees at the end of the fight??if u watch serras head its flopping around like hes a dead man and then he pops up/wakes up just as st. pierre skinned him with the 4th knee..mania can u possibly get a clip of this?…………………………………..
yes i noticed it as well. serra was finished. he was just simply OUTCLASSED!
So many people come on here and talk shit about how Serra was gonna own GSP…….GSP fucking smoked Serra…..how the hell did people not see that coming…..I am glad to see the belts outta the US again and back in Canada. Your newyorker got fucked up.
Maia – $ WON BIG – Herman is tough but I knew he couldn’t stay off the mat with Maia.
Danzig – $ WON SMALL – knees to the dome! splat right on his facial! gyea! John called the mount RNC transition.
Bisping – more knees!! gyea!! 1st round massacre!! looking way above average!! lol… GET UP!!
Florian – you would think a bjj black belt would have more insight on the ground game. Rogan explains it so even blind people can enjoy the fight.
starnes – i hope he made $ throwing the fight because his career just ended.
lutter – FOOT HUGGING!! LOL!
Serra – $ LOST SMALL – so I guess GSP is afraid to get KTFO.
yeah hes so afrai d that he proceded to kick serra’s ass. be a real man and give gsp his props instead of making excuses.
Thank yo for my props on the Danzig fight.
Lutter looked like “the entertainer” sucking on “New Yorks” toes on “I love New York”.. If soccer kicks were allowed, lutter would have gotten his face kicked in!
I think this is the first thread I have read through, and everyone is basically in agreement! Except on the GSP/Silva issue witch I think the only way to know would be to see it happen. Apparently GSP’s head problems went away with the brick, and Silva has shown little weakness. I would love to see them fight. I’m not counting out Fitch, but if GSP gets through him, and BJ, the only thing that makes any sense at all is Silva. I don’t know about anyone else, but I enjoy a fight allot more when I don’t have a 95% assurance of who is going to win it.
I have never been a fan of Starnes, in fact there has always been something about him that’s bugged the crap out of me. But he not only didn’t fight, he even looked different. I don’t want to try and make any excuses for him, but there just had to have been something else going on. At this point I’m theorizing that he broke his hand one or two days before the fight (because I don’t think he landed a single shot) and decided to show up anyway just so he would get paid. I’ve never seen a fighter so completely unwilling to fight. It was really disgraceful.
that stoppage was bullsh*t.stoppage from knees to the body,you gotta be fn kidding me.GSP lands 3 knees to the body in the last 9 seconds and fourth totaly missing and the ref stops the fight BS. basicaly this is how it boils down,GSP more marketable as champ,fighting in home town,early stopage equals Serra getting robbed.that shit was RIGGED and the ref should be shot.
Awwww, someone’s upset. lol If Serra was just going to wait it out, then the stoppage was good. If he was going to just curl up and take 10 more seconds of knees like those to the ribs, he wouldn’t have been able to move in the next round and probablywould have gotten beat down even worse. Those knees didn’t tickle Serra, GSP was on his feet throwing those knees, I’m going to guess pretty close to full out, Serra just didn’t want to tap.
No im not upset at all.i just find it funny how all you nuttsucking GSP fans thinks his shit dont stink.here’s a question, what was more impressive Serra’s embarassing beat down of GSP or GSP’s knee to the body bs stoppage.what’a great champ.it’s cool though he will just lose it his first defense and then say he didnt prepare or had personally problems blah blah blah.and Serra didnt tap to strikes cuz he didnt go out the a bitch ala Serra vs GSP 1.
hey buddy ever taken a knee to the ribs? theres a chance serra would’ve had his ribs broken and possibly puncture his lungs but hey what do i know
hey lemme maul you like GSP mauled Serra last night and see if you can continue after I knee you in the ribs ten times or so. I bet you’ll be coughing up blood in the middle of it.
it will never happen
That’s because Hughes is going to wreck him next, which is a shame, because I like Serra more than Hughes by a long shot.
I wouldn’t be suprised at all if Serra’s ribs are broken. Just face it he got his ass kicked last night. Here come the conspiracy theories from all the newbies and people who can’t deal with their faves getting beat. I didn’t see Serra complaining about the stoppage! He looked happy that it was over.
dude…Serra was out..look at his head floppin around on the ground when he was eating those knees. When you curl up in a ball like that, Im pretty sure you’re hurting and don’t want anymore.
Dude… Serra was in he fetal position doing nothing to protect himself.
I didn’t see Serra complain about the stoppage… he was probably pissed it didn’t come sooner. (He’s one of those who think tapping is a pussy thing to do.)
it is a pussy thing to do….to tap. death before dishonor
you have got to be kidding me… its one thing to dishonor yourself like kalib starnes.. THATS dishoner running and not fighting… but tapping is no dishonor- you forget that by tappin your giving up so taht you can live or be in good condition to fight again… whats he gonna do not tap and hold his head up high and perhaps never fight again??? the ref did a perfect job by stopping it.. perfect timing or else something seriouse could of happend to serra.
You’re ridiculous. Matt Serra said GSP kicked his ass. What do you expect? Serra just turtled, the ref can’t just keep letting someone eat shots like that in that particular area, Serra will probably piss blood for a week.
Friend, I’m a Serra fan, and there’s no way in hell that wasn’t a legit stoppage. He was a beaten man.
you are an idiot, sorry BIG IDIOT
robd i’d bet my life and all that is sacred to me would not call me an idiot to me face! but i understand why you do, cuz your safe at home behind your keyboard jerking off every time they show a clip of GSP living in your granny’s basement
Serra got beat down, now get off his nuts and accept it.
first off,im not even a big fan of Serra. my favorite fighters are Rampage,Arlovski and anybody that beat GSP,Florian and Bisping. BTW he didnt get beat down he got dry humped for 10 min,becuz chickenshit GSP didnt want to get embarassed again on his feet.
HAHAHA I love it when people say GSP was scared to keep the fight on the feet. This is MMA, not K-1. GSP took the fight wherever he wanted, whenever he wanted. That’s as stupid as saying Chuck Liddell is chickenshit for sprawling and keeping fights on his feet.
Serra getting thumped for like 8 minutes……must have been rigged??? You must be on drugs kiddo.
LOL Yeah, the UFC loves to rig their title fights. That’s why the good-looking and well-spoken Rich Franklin got beat down twice by the foreign Anderson Silva, the second time in Rich’s hometown of Cincinnati. The UFC loves to rig their title fights so much that they made the goofball Tim Sylvia be their heavyweight champ for years. You’re a tool.
What bothers me is that GSP is in the back room really warming up and looks good and determined… meanwhile, Serra is sitting down like a chump and this is going to be a walk in the park. After the match, he picks him up and celebrate, WHAT YOUR FREAKING LOSS??? Matt didn’t look ready or willing to give it his all. how disappointing.
Don’t expect much more game than that from Serra, especially going up against GSP. Serra isn’t even top 10 WW in my opinion. His KO was a fluke and a lot of people fell victim into the Serra hype. Serra was a 5 to 1 underdog and the txt voting on the PPV got almost 50 percent picking Serra to win the fight.
i agree c-war the 1rst fight was a fluke, but i think serrra caould still hang w/ most of the top 10. gsp is just in another class. your right about about people riding the serra hype, there were alot of bloggers who were very insulting and offensive to other bloggers who voiced support for gsp, and now they are nowhere to be found.
Very uneduacated texts. People who think Sarah had a chance have never seen an MMA fight. GSP is on top of the world, there is no close second. Georges really taught his nephew a good lesson. Shut your mouth and actually show up next time.
It looked to me that Serra tried to stick to the same pre-fight routine as last time. Same music, same look on his face. But GSP on the other hand couldn’t have looked more different from the first fight.
The Starnes vs Quarry fight was hilarious
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First off Ken-Flo did a great job out there even if his name is Ken-Flo. Kalib Starnes looked like he was being paid to throw the fight by simply not fighting. Nate Quarry has a cool tattoo and is back on the road to glory. Bisbing still bugs me, even after his ownage of Captin Miserable last night. Travis Lutter and Rich Franklin looked like a couple of retired Yamma Pit Fighters in an under card bout. Wow what a weak performance form both of them, Lutter especially. Yeah, and your going after Silva next? Please. Who would have ever thought that GSP would take this bout via knees to the body? All in all a good card IMO. I did find myself squealing with glee at the sight of Ed Hermanbeing tossed around like a rag doll at the end of the broadcast. A little humble pie might go a long way for howdy doody.
What made it for me was the entire Bell Centre chanting “f*ck you Serra” near the end of the 2nd round. too funny.
I was sad that Serra lost, I am still no matter what a Serra fan, and I can not wait till him and Hughes class. GSP is so strong on the ground, he has to be the strongest 170 fighter period. He man handled Koscheck, Hughes and Serra. He used his dominant strength to demolish those fighters.
I loved Nate Quarry’s running man hide the face punch as well. It was funny, but yet also made MMA look bad.
Charles McCarthy sucks. Point blank. I had money on him too.
I think a Nate Quarry vs. Michael Bisping needs to happen.
Maia, I told you all was a stud. I watched him at UFC 77 against Ryan Jansen.
Oh YEAH… RICH FRANKLIN WON… thats all I will say. But lets see a Hendo/Franklin fight now.
Quarrys opponent made mma look bad…
kudos for giving props to gsp. i know it sucks when one of your favs, believe me i felt the same way a year ago when sera upset gsp. i wanna seee hendo/franklin as well. i think serra is a natural lw and would do well to move down. once b.j. moves up he would be a top 5 guy.
Kalib Starnes got ROBBED on that decision. MMA is so fixed it’s not even funny.
I hope that’s a joke…..
lmfao
Robbed like Serra with the early stoppage. lol
At least Quarry had a sense of humor about the whole thing, chasing him around the ring, then doing the hand-over-face punching (we call that Aggie fighting in Texas). Then when Starnes’ hometown fans cheered Quarry and booed Starnes, Quarry busted out the “if I can change, and you can change, then everybody can change.” Sheer brilliance.
Surprising that this didn’t jolt Starnes into the reality that he was making history for acting like such a complete joke, and go after Quarry. He has no shame I guess, still backing up while Quarry just made fun of such an absurd situation. Dana should have given him a bonus.
Bonus for making the best out of a bad and awkward situation: Nate Quarry. 15K.
lol. First time ever a 30-24 round given by the judges. That was crazy but pretty much how it was. Nate surprised me and showed great improvement. Not as stiff as he used to be in his prior fights.
I have to admit, I was disappointed with the stopage by knees to the body, but Lavigne is the best ref out there so he must have seen something, plus I didnt hear serra complaining, but I would have liked to see a ko. Starnes, sorry guy, but I dont want to see you on a card again either, and I want my money back, I could have been watching one maybe two extra fights in the time you wasted. If anyone sees Starnes on the street, ask for your money back! As much as I would like to see GSP vs Silva, I think GSP vs Bisbing would be a more well matched war. Thought the crowd was a little disrespectful, and what was with the, oh Canada loves this guy bs, believe it or not Canada isnt the borg and has individuals that can make up there own minds, I hope the org tells commentater to can that generalizasion shit, its uncivilized.
what bothers me is u f**ker aren’t reading my blog.
“did anyone else notice that matt serra was knocked out for the first 3 knees at the end of the fight??if u watch serras head its flopping around like hes a dead man and then he pops up/wakes up just as st. pierre skinned him with the 4th knee..if someone has this on pvr or watch the damn thing again im telling u matt serra is outcold when he is taking those knees…no F8*king doubt
He ate like 3 straight jabs before being taken down and he looked like he hadn’t the slightest clue of what had happened. He was definitely seeing stars if not asleep when GSP delivered the knees. Wouldn’t be surprised if he has a broken rib or two in there.
no!!!! just you seen that. put the pipe down
please go die “GSP still sucks”. please its almost my birthday and all i want is for you to get raped, leave or die
Starnes was weird. No one who does this for a living would act like that. It reminds me of a dream/nightmare I had where I showed up for work one day and forgot entirely how to do it. I wasn’t even dressed properly and ended up running around avoiding everyone. I feel like there must be an explanation.
I’m in awe of GSP’s ability to take anyone down at will. It’s bloody amazing. You watch other fights where people struggle to get take downs and people sprawl out of them, and GSP just takes them down so quick and easy. That’s the main reason I can see him taking on Anderson. Unless Anderson can sprawl out of his epic takedowns, you know that it would be a decent fight. If Silva keeps it on the feet though it’ll be a tough fight for GSP. I sort of thought that Serra would have been able to get a couple of shots in, but to his defense, he did just as well or better than the rest of the UFC against him (aside from Hughes and his first match). Some dude up there said that Serra was knocked out from the knees. I saw it too. Serra’s arms suddenly flopped from his head and his head sort of wobbled. He had no defense from those knees, and I don’t think that waiting out the round is relevant.
I sort of cringe at all the talk about the belt being with it’s rightful owner though. It was WITH it’s rightful owner before! Serra brutalized GSP the first time. GSP even owned up to it and admitted that Serra is the true belt holder after his win over Hughes. Give Serra credit. The belt was rightfully his.
I think Lutter still has potential, but he needs to get in shape. He has the skill, which is the hard part. Getting in shape is easy, anyone can do it! Just run and ride your bike everyday. Go swimming a couple times a week for an hour! Anyone can do that. He just isn’t focused I guess.
Bisping looked good, but we’ll see how good when he faces up to Rich. I’d like to see he and Quarry, or Bisping/Leben.
THE EXPLANATION FOR STARNES , HE LOST HIS HEART , HE NEEDS TO GET A FREAKIN HEART TRANSPLANT, AMERICAN TOP TEAM SHOULD SHOW HIM THE DOOR
THE Canadian fans were the best crowd ive ever seen. The CROWD WAS AWESOME it felt like i was there!
couldn’t agree more… not saying that Canadian fans are better than American Fans…But atleast the Canadian fans didn’t yell out Canada CAnada …. like the american’s do when gsp or Silva fight and the americans are all chanting out U-S-A U-S-A… thats just retarded and very disrespectful..
uh… maybe cause they were chanting in FRENCH!
Still a great crowd though.
Who’s the dingleberry that claims GSP doesn’t have the skill to take on BJ??? GSP already beat BJ once! A rematch would be great and makes sense, but GSP is certainly up to BJ’s level. I’d say it’s one of the great matchups for 2 reasons:
1) BJ is so awesome on his back (while GSP’s specialty is getting you on your back).
2) Both fighters are insanely improved and stronger than when they first fought. GSP is so improved it isn’t even funny. BJ would train really hard to beat the best. I can’t wait to see it. GSP would be eager to win convincingly, (the first was a win, but it wasn’t convincing and his face was battered).
Penn would have to get fat for that fight to happen which would make GSP a winner again.
Anyone up for a Franklin Leben fight?
Leben would get tuned by Franklin..he’s a a B-level fighter at best, good heart but sloppy standup and non-existent ground game
i would rather see frankiln/hendo, but franklin vs leben or cote would do.
Bwahaha where’s Kevin now?!?
GSP by clinic as predicted.
normally i wouldnt keep track of people who picked losers, but some of the guys like adam g,kama kaze, stagger lee were very offensive and insulting to any one who supported gsp, an obvious favorite, so their gonna get what they got coming. and VM, how about those “itchy hands!!!!!!!!!!”.
I did not pick Serra by no means!
You should keep better track next time…
WTF?
I never had my pick on Matt Serra..I am a HUGE fan of GSP, and never expressed any offensive comments about him…Go back on almost every thread and tell me where I posted that???
Go back to the fightpredictions thread and read my picks…
I am a fan of both fighters and maybe you read something I wrote positive about Serra, and you had me confused???
I am Canadian and was routing for GSP both times they fought.
you agreed w/ adam g and vm that gsp tapped against serra because he was afraid to get koed. you said that you changed your mind because of gsp’s itchy fingers. you may not have picked serra to win but did knock gsp. i will and try and and go back and see what thread it was. if not you i will apologize.
it was the gsp has a message for jon fitch thread 4-17-08. at first you said that jon shouldnt say that about gsp being afraid to get koed, but later commented that they changed your mind, why else would he tap itchy fingers lol. i did see on all your other posts that you were going for gsp. so there might have been a misunderstanding on one of our parts. but they did sound offensive to me so i do partialy apo;ogize. normaly i dont worry about who picks who, but like i said there were alot of bad sht said about gsp by guys who normally support him. feel free to tell me what you think.
I know exactly what thread..It was GSP’s response to what Fitch said…
Early in that thread I posted, Thst I thought Fitch was out of line for what he said.I thought there was no reason to justify why he(fitch) could say that..
Then AdamG and VM reminded me that GSP tapped, and I had to change my mind saying “Fitch wasn’t out of line” because that would justify(to me) why he(fitch) would say that about GSP..And I also typed lol beside the itchy hand remark..
I DID NOT mean any disrespect to GSP, and have always routed for him..I was just taking back what I said about Fitch.(thats all)..I dont agree with what Fitch said, but I cant say he was out of line..(get it?).Seems like you took alot of offense to my “one” post, but totally left out everything else I have said about GSP in the last week or two..(like i said read other threads)..
I dont have any beef with you, and last time I checked, I am entitled to my opinion(just like you are)..I never meant I thought GSP is scared to get KO’d ,and even if I did? That is what this site is all about..Not everyone is going to agree with you..
im leaving now and wont be back till tommorrow. i think we are both gsp fans so how about a truce?
tell me what’s coming b.w. i want to know. you going to send me some junk email? or submit a complaint? lol.. pathetic… your guy won. time to celebrate right? go ahead crack some jokes. i’d be laughing right there with ya.
b.w;
You are right “we are both GSP fans” and thats cool, but a “truce” usually is called for’ when both parties did something wrong..
It was not wrong for me to have an opinion..This is a MMa forum, right?
Alot of people are going to bump heads because of “opinion”.
You on the other hand decided to “keep track this time” of people that disagreed with your opinion,picked serra to win and/or said “offensive comments” about GSP..And MY name happened to be on your list?. And I did not ever post GSP will lose..He was always my pick, and I typed lol about VM’s itchy comment because it was funny.(nothing wrong with that).. So only one partie was wrong, and I do except your apology, but there is no reason for a “truce”.
…btw. You are doing the same thing Serra fans did when he beat GSP, by calling out all the Serra fans that had Serra winning agian(which is just there opinion)…this is getting way to long, so im just going to say.
I have no beef with you..You just have to lighten up a little bit..Dont take offence to what people say about GSP.(imo that is why we”bumped heads”).Not every fighter has the same fans, and alot of people are going to make offensive comments, to back up their opinions.
I hope next time we cross on a thread it will be, because we agreed on something,
it sure seemed like an offensive remark to me but oh well. just a misundrestanding. i only kept track of peoples names who were calling people nuthuggers among other things ( something i find offensive) for voicing positive opinions on gsp. i dont have any problems w/ those who said bad things about gsp him self just the ones who put people down for supporting gsp, a big difference imo. you wrent one of them and your’e probably right about me lightening up some, bu this was the worst id seen in awhile, a long while and sometines a person Has to stick up for themselves.
and kama kaze just be respectful, i dont even know what you mean by sending junk e-mail or file conplaints. i wouldnt waste my time. if you think i’m pathetic try looking in the mirror. or try looking on this site 6 months from now when i’ll still be here and you’ll be nowhere around.
I was thinking the same thing. lol Seems there was only one Serra fan in here trying to defend his hero. The rest know better I guess.
I like how Sarah said “I’ll be there, I’ll show up”. The only thing he forgot was to actually show up hahaha
yeah he was definitely there, but the fight never showed up
Like I posted last week. “A walk in the park, there’e a light breeze, the birds are chirping. A slice of pie. That was one of the most lop-sided events ever. GSP completely dis-mantled Matt Sarah. hahahah. The belt is back in Canada, not New York, or the Long Island, or the USA. But in Canada. Sarah is Lucky GSP even allowed him to try to strike. It was very enjoyable watching Sarah get his ribs all busted up and his eyes stapled shut by GSP. Do all you Sarah nuthuggers still think he had a chance?? God St. Pierre Bless You. And thank you for trash talking. That will be all. Peasants.
mania you asked for our opinions, good or bad, about this new format when you 1rst started it. at 1rst it seemed cool, but not now. it is very hard to respond to other’s blogs. i liked the old format better and this isn’t a put-down just my opinion and i have been a loyal reader for about 2 years so you know i love this site.
I UFC 84 website is up!!!
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Comment by “Mr. NC-17″
2008-04-18 12:50:08
Bet on Serra and Mark Bocek…
Comment by jimmy v
2008-04-18 13:56:17
gsp has faster hands but serra has heavier hands. serra has better bjj gsp has better wrestling. this fight will come down to who has the weaker chin in my eyes.serra is a very tough opponent for gsp.NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE UNDERDOG.
Comment by carnage
2008-04-16 11:17:13
THIS time GSP is 100% mentally ready to get his ass kicked! haha one time for SERRA
Comment by boardRIDER
2008-04-18 14:34:24
i’ll be expecting a great payout tomorrow night. (:
(matt serra vs. GSP) winner: matt serra
(kalib starnes vs. nate quarry) winner: kalib starnes
(rich franklin vs. travis lutter) winner: travis lutter
…mo’money MO’MONEY MO’MONEY!!!!!!…
Comment by kevin
2008-04-18 15:29:41
GSP looks ready, has openly said he’s in shape and ready…how long after saturday does he flip and start making excuses again???
My point has been made.
boardRIDER probably should never bet again.
goddamnmike, all those haters are still here reading this blog. I think they just change their names and writing about how great gsp is. except for kevin, I think his new name is gsp still sucks. To all those who said serra was great obviously don’t know anything about mma or serra’s record for that matter. All is right in the mma world now, minatouro, rampage, silva, gsp, and bj penn are way above their competition at their weight class, well maybe not minatouro
and WHAT
for all the ppl who were thinking serra had a chance i feel sorry for you
Comment by kevin
2008-04-18 15:29:41
GSP looks ready, has openly said he’s in shape and ready…how long after saturday does he flip and start making excuses again???
Comment by “Mr. NC-17″
2008-04-18 12:50:08
Bet on Serra and Mark Bocek…
Comment by jimmy v
2008-04-18 13:56:17
gsp has faster hands but serra has heavier hands. serra has better bjj gsp has better wrestling. this fight will come down to who has the weaker chin in my eyes.serra is a very tough opponent for gsp.NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE UNDERDOG.
Comment by UFCPreview.com
2008-04-18 15:57:22
Bet the Serra\GSP OVER 1.5 rounds
Serra has NEVER been KO’d, and GSP is going to come out slow….it is going 2 rounds, all day baby
Comment by MikeyMIKE!
2008-04-15 16:08:07
Serra has his number.
Comment by alex
2008-04-15 17:25:55
I thing presser will be the death of gsp again.
Comment by jdawg
2008-04-15 18:47:47
glad to see he’s planning on going to the hospital. that way he wont be surprized to wake up there…if he wakes up.night night GSPComment by kevin
2008-04-14 10:59:43
Neither, how’s that. GSP loses again this weekend, then what??? Wrestles a few more guys to the ground and gets another shot. Ever since Serra knocked him out he doesn’t wanna stand. He’s weak. He is mentally weak. Sorry to sound mean and heartless (and my wife loves GSP and hates these comments) but they are what I think
Comment by kevin
2008-04-14 12:59:58
why is that?? If GSP wins he wins, I come here to read and write my thoughts on mma. I know quite a bit and like to share, I just think Serra has GSP’s #
The point is made.
I hope boardRIDER is enjoying that big payout he expected. “MO MONEY MO MONEY” hahahahaha
i would like to thank you and john for being the only good opinions on here, just found this site a few months ago and i love it. i scroll through all this trash talk looking for you and mikes opinion and have never disagreed. good form
Comment by Brandon
2008-04-14 12:39:45
Kevin won’t be around these boards in a week.
Good call.
Yeah, havent seen him posting at all after the fight. Just like everyone predicted!! I didnt do to badly, picked 4 out of 5 so im happy.
That St. pierre/Serra fight was crap! I am so pissed that it was stopped because of KNEES. The Heath Herring/Cheick Kongo fight Herring kept feeding Kongo knees and it wasn’t stopped. I think refs should take into account that when a belt is on the line to NOT stop a fight unless a fighter taps or is not protecting himself from PERMANENT DAMAGE. That stoppage just upsets me. The Quarry/Starnes fight was dissapointing. I was expecting these guy to put up fireworks but Starnes just showed what I been saying all along, he has no heart. I do really appreciate quarry calling him out though, it made the fight somewhat enjoyable. Lutter/Franklin fight was o.k. I am just happy Lutter made weight this time. He did do well in the first round and after that I think he just quit. His shot were sloppy and his cardio was horrible, Franklin was picking him apart once he knew we was tired. The Mcarthy/Bisbing fight made me wonder about Mcarthy. He had Bisbing on the groung and almost got him but his stand-up needs improvement. I would like to see mcarthy back agianst Meia. I would also like to see Bisbing against Cote’. They both like to bang and Cote’ is looking good so far, that would not be an easy fight for bisbing and it could be the toughest competition except for Hammill and Evans. I liked Danzig also he really looked good at 155 lbs. I really wanted to see Stout and Clementi, also thought that fight should have been a main card instead of the Danzig fight or the Quarry fight. All in All it was a good night for fighting. ILL WILL is next I say BJ, Wanderlei, and Machida.
Why didnt herb dean ref the serra gsp fight, at least he would have warned serra to get out of there or he would have stop the fight.
Forget Starnes, I’d like to focus on that fat ass rolly polly smart ass Matt Serra. Who did he train with, that retarded fuck Lutter? Whenever someone enters the ring with a tire around their waist, you know they are in for trouble. Pasta my ass, get in shape bitch. Serra was doing some serious arrogant trash talking as if he really was supposed to win the first fight with GSP. Now does that fool believe that GSP has some shit going on in his mind last year? He should get on his knees and apologize immediately before he takes his fat wife on vacation to past island. GOOD RIDDANCE YOU PIECE OF NY TRASH.
My recap
1. GSP is the real thing.
2. Franklin is still a warrior.
3. Starnes is confused.
4. Serra calls people “dick” alot.
Kalib and Luter need to be fired. Kalib is a class-less fighter (cussing out the audience) like Nate Diaz (getting high with his bum friends). Luter is a boring, grab your leg hyped up bjj fighter.
I don’t even see a point in the 185 division because nobody is as well rounded as silva. They need to move silva up to 205 or there is no point in the 185 division.
Same with the 170 division. I mean people like Koschek and Sanchez will never beat GSP.
Some of these fighters should be in other promotions they are not UFC material.
I’m very disappointed with the fights lately. I’m getting sick of these BJJ asswipes that roll around on the ground the whole fight. I’m sure its very tactical and difficult but the bottom line is, BJJ is NOT exciting to watch. Strikes are exciting to watch. Watching BJJ is like watching college wrestling.
Bisbing needs to lose the ego, in my book he lost to hamil. Whats the point of bisbing, he can’t fight silva.
The UFC did a great job at buying out the competition (pride) and ruining all of the fighters.
Fedor is over rated crap. Randys win over silvia was boring and very safe. I’m getting sick of these safe fighters that want to win by points.
I’m also sick of these fighters that GAS, I mean if your not in shape WTF are you doing at the UFC, there are many fighters out there who would love to be in your spot and who actually have the discipline and respect for the sport to train and condition properly.
Rampage needs to fight Chuck again because that was a let down fight. Getting tko in the beginning with 1 punch was boring.
It seems like the UFC is more about marketing now than actually having good fight cards.
UFC 83 fight card sucked, I though the last few sucked but its just getting worse.
They should put more of the chinese/jap fighters on these cards because at least they can fight and its not boring. Shit bring Bob Sapp if you have to, at least hes cool to watch. I’d rather see Kimbo (even if he sucks) than have to watch some sorry ass like Kalib or Bisbing or Danzig.
These characters need to go train and practice with other promos first, then come over. Mac Danzig will never beat Sherk so whats the point?
If GSP is a mental midget, then what is 5′6″ Matthew Sarah??
how about we let gsp fight jon fintch? has that guy not earned a shot hes beaten tough dudes.. let him make a defense aganist him. and if he wins then we can debate weather or not he should fight anderson silva.
i agree. gsp needs to fight fich first. he has earned. who knows? maybee fitch wants gsp to move up as well.
Hard to believe Kalib and Lutter were on the main card….I think one thing is for sure – we all witnessed the death of three UFC careers last night. Say a prayer for Kalib, Mcarthy, and Lutter cause they are done.
ohhhhh shit …..this whole card i had everything right as far as predictions go.(except the starnes fight)i thought Lutter woulve brought more to the table but for real franklins like 23-3 thats impressive for a math teacher. GSP dominated Serra like he dominated Hughes….and personally is on a whole other level then the terror.i call premature stoppage,he was getting handed but they shoulve let em go a few more minutes for the fans.Canadain fans singing ole ole ole through the whole match fucking intense.and starnes is funny see ya later kalib no one pays for that shit show consider your future contract void
Starnes was a good 6 feet away from Nate during the last 10 seconds and the Screech move….Big Puss, no dignity, They sounded 10 seconds of the final round, and couldn’t at least pull out a KO punch out of his ass? I bet Leben is embarrassed by losing to this puss?
goodbye kalib starnes.consider your ufc contract null and void…….wtf….on pay-per-view too what a dissapointment to the crowd.i made a couple dollars last night went 4/5 on the main card,but ill tell you what…best part of the night was the gsp serra rematch during the whole fight the canadian crowd singing ole ole ole….fucking great…get every pay-per-view never seen nothing so props to canada on being a great fan base.loved it but ill wills goona be tough to call
id say bj penn.wanderlei and machida.Fuck Tito Ortiz im tired of seeing him cry before and after the fight.i thought chuck put him away years ago./long live chucky.i want the rampage rematch but im the guy saying chuck takes it.did you watch the first fight not ufc but pride…say all you want but that fight wasnt a first moment knckout they battled into the second round and got a stoppage chucks old but he aint washed up and id give the one testicle i havce left for the rematch in december.gotta get through griffin first rampage and chuck you gotta put away evans(which is a no brainer)im out peace
Serra was made an example of. Fitch is next. Sorry Jon.
Serra won the first fight with the infamous “puncher’s chance”. He was the inferior fighter, but as they say ‘any given Sunday” or in this case Saturday night the underdog can come out on top if he gets some lucky breaks. However, betting on that happening several times in a row or at all isn’t exactly a smart bet. You have to be impressed with GSP though, his ability to come right at guys and beat them at their own game is incredible. He took Serra whom is known for his BJJ skills to the ground and controlled him with ease, not to mention that he out wrestled Koshcheck.
I hope for Khalid Starnes sake he has some sort of excuse for his behaviour, such as he broke both hands the day before the event but wanted to try to fight but found out he couldn’t about a minute into the first round. Otherwise I’m not sure how that guy will ever live down the fact that every MMA fan who watched that fight will forever think of him as “the Running Man”.
I thought it was a fairly decent pay per view. The first fight with Danzig and Boceck was probably the most competitive fight on the main card. Problematically the fights were rather onesided, at one point I rather thought they might as well have Franklin and Quarry go at it, since neither of them were really fighting long enough to break a sweat, although Quarry certainly got a good cardio work out chasing after Starnes.
As for the fellow asking “what is the point to divisions with dominant champions?” (I paraphrase), time isn’t static. There was a point where you could have asked “What is the point of welter weights? Matt Hughes will dominate for as long as he wants.” But time doesn’t stand still, some guys aren’t ready for a title shot right at the moment. It doesn’t mean two years from now they won’t be ready. GSP wasn’t ready for Hughes in the first fight, but in the rematchs he was clearly the better fighter. Silva has stuffed the middleweight division so far, but there are good fighters out there who are working to get better, eventually one of them will have his number.
Vero,
You can’t lump Danzig in with Starnes. Danzig comes to fight and put on a pretty good show last night (see Bozek’s face). Bisping is not my favorite either but he comes to fight, too. I can’t stand Nate Diaz mostly because of his physical appearance and his rambling after the fights but the guy keeps winning. Kurt P should have beat him but just doesn’t fight smart.
At least, we didn’t have to watch quick stoppages by Steve Mazzagatti last night. To the few that thought Serra got ripped off by the referee for an early stoppage, he was clearly a beaten man and at that point in the fight was offering no resistance. Good job by the referee for stopping the pounding.
Did they say where Joe Rogan was last night? I couldn’t hear most of the commentary at the loud sports bar.
I think Rogan had a family event or family something rather.
Some of you guys are wrong when you speak on MMA. If you find it boring then this is obviously the wrong sport for you. If all you want is striking go watch K-1 fights, and if you just like submission grappling then get some ADCC (Abu Dhabi Combat Club) tapes and watch those. MMA means MIXED MARTIAL ARTS, that is grappling and striking all in one package. Look at the champions and they all do two things great or good. Matt Huges is a perfect example. In the wrestling category he is top teir, jui-jitsu also. Striking..? Well I would call him an ametuer, but improving. He does well with his wrestling and Jiutisu and many of his wins come from pounding guys out and submissions. He countered a Kimura from St. Pierre and got him in an arm-bar. He also pounded BJ Penn and Carlos Newton using the crucifix. That is one reason I never liked Tito Ortiz. He had only one trick, wrestling/ ground & pound. Chuck Liddell is another great example. His wrestling is great and so is his striking. Has anyone seen his submission game? He says he’s a purple belt but I haven’t seen it yet, we may see it though when he goes against Rashad Evans. Liddell uses his wrestling ability to sprawl out of the takedown attempts so he can keep the fights standing. When he knocks his opponents down then he pounds them out. He occasionally goes for takedowns (i.e. Vitor Belfort and Wanderlei Silva) but it is very rare. So for all the new fans who think they know what they are talking about and call this sport ‘boring’ you should take some classes and understand what a guard is and why it is so important. You will really appreciate this sport and many of its fighters once realizing the arts used.
It looks like Fitch will finally get his shot. There’s just nothing negative to say about GSP, the guy’s a beast. I’ll definitely be pulling for Fitch. He’s said he wants the toughest guys out there and he’s about to get it.
i think if silva and gsp fight, gsp would be dominated. though if they fought again, well you all know what gsp does after losing… wins. also IMO i think you all should refrain from calling mma fighters pussies (unless its kalib). these guys spend an incredible amount of time in the gym working harder in an hour then most people work in a month, i can see an mma competitor calling another a pussy, but kids with desk jobs and alcohol problems? come on..
how people put bj penn who is very good by the way in the same sentence as GSP or silva is beyond me..he has nowhere near the resume. BJ is not gonna be in shape and sherk is gonna run through him
I agree with you Alex. Some true negatives about this sport are the REFS. They just destroy it sometimes for the fans and the fighters. I want someone to tell me a fight when they (refs) stopped a fight and it should not have been stopped. Many of you can AND everyone will have a different answer, which is horrible people. Tito Ortiz/Chuck Liddell, Shamrock/Ortiz, Serra/St.Pierre and Herring/Noguira (that fight should have been stopped after that head kick and many unanswered blows to the head AND he was KOed for a second). All refs need to be consistent. I notice all refs are completly different in terms of “stand-ups” and “stoppages”. WHICH IS CRAP!!! Nba, Nfl and even Nhl refs are all on the same page in terms of fouls and penalties. MMA should follow sute and learn something. ALSO, fire Steve Mazagatti and Yves Lavginge, they are skinny unoriginal ants and I want Big John Back! Make Mario Yamasaki quit, teach Herb Dean on only using one ‘time-out’ a fight night and that big huge buff guy with a weird last name to get off the steriods (I like him though as a ref). A lot of these guys are gonna end up like Larry Lawless…we all know what happened to him. Is that his name Larry Lawless or Landless something like that. The one ref who screwed over Phil Baroni and almost got his face restructured, HIM (even though it didn’t mattter since Baroni lost the rematch against Tanner). World, I just can’t say enough about these freakin refs. I’m changing my major to MMA Referee Science so we can have one decent ref out there in the cage or ring. After doing that for a while I am going to be a Judge. One word, four syllables: CON-SIS-TENT-CY! Athletic State Commissions need to work on it with your refs!
Ever since Big John left they have gotten a crap load of new refs that just arent filling the void.
……He just rematched someone that knocked him out……for the belt…..infront of the biggest crowd ever….and smoked Serra easy….he has passed the biggest test he will face in a long time. Smoking Jon fitch is going to be easy.
It’s too bad that GSP is better than Fitch in every conceivable category, it’ll be like Silva beating up on Franklin.
The only one who realistically has a decent chance is a lean and motivated BJ Penn (who i think won the first fight) or if GSP moves up and takes on Silva
BJ Penn did win the first fight…..GSP layed on top of him the last round and a half. AFraid to slip up and get caught in something and was afraid to exchange standing up…So what do you do lay ontopand make yourself heavy when all else fails…