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Here’s a discussion about Tim Sylvia, Fedor Emelianenko and more UFC 83:

Here’s a discussion about Chuck Liddell vs. Rampage Jackson 3, other fight scenarios and more UFC 83:

(Thanks to MMAmania.com reader “john” for the assist.)

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April 18th, 2008     68 Comments

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Comment by ufcmn89
2008-04-18 09:51:58

Our school doesn’t allow us to play vids anymore :(

 
Comment by Stagger-Lee
2008-04-18 09:56:54

I want the UFC to come to my home town(Toronto) sooo bad..
I go to the Raptors games alot, and I have been to Leafs games aswell, and the ACC is always jumping. If the UFC came here the place would go crazy!

Comment by Derrick Fox
2008-04-18 10:45:50

ACC is a joke for Leaf games, Raptor crowds are average – it’s all suits. Put the UFC here, and I agree, it would be madness. You probably wouldn’t go to a Raptor or Leaf game again.

Comment by Stagger-Lee
2008-04-18 11:07:08

Raptor crowds are average???You must be high.
And I dont mean Nick Diaz high, More like Nick Nolte high…I go to ALOT of Raptor games and the ACC is always shaking…I dont go to much leaf games, but even though they suck, the fans seem to have to place going nuts..The Raptors are in the Top10 for sell-outs..
I do agree with one thing..like you said, if the UFC came here it would be “madness”..
But I would still go see my Rap’s…

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Comment by Copps
2008-04-18 15:19:39

Afaik MMA is still not sanctioned in Ontario, write to your MPP and we may see events in Ontario in the future.

 
Comment by Stagger-Lee
2008-04-18 19:27:37

no shit!
I have already signed the petition this year, and every year for the past 3…It will happen soon….

 
 
 
Comment by Copps
2008-04-18 15:20:59

afaik MMA is still not sanctioned in Ontario, write to you MPP if you want to have them change this. This would need to happen before there is any chance of an event at the ACC

 
 
Comment by Stagger-Lee
2008-04-18 09:59:00

New York, “early next year”???
Damn it is taking Dana a long time to crack New York.

Comment by Pat
2008-04-18 12:00:31

I don’t think MMA is sanctioned in New York state yet. Dana would love to have events at NYC but it’s not entirely up to him.

Comment by Stagger-Lee
2008-04-18 19:30:18

you are right! MMa is NOT yet sanctioned in NY…I know this aswell. I was just meaning’ Dana has been trying for a while to “crack” NY..He said early next year..It is taking a long time for NY..

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Comment by Clayton
2008-04-18 10:02:03

Can’t watch these at work but I do know I have littel interest in watching Jackson Liddell 3. What would be the point?

Comment by JV
2008-04-18 10:24:55

I think Chuck / Rampage 3 would be different. I think Chuck had dominated for so long that he didn’t go in there with his full potential, and got caught. I don’t think Rampage is as dominant as people think he is.

Comment by Clayton
2008-04-18 10:30:27

Yeah, that makes sense. I’d still like to see both fighters go against some other competition first, and then see where they stand.

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Comment by duece 4
2008-04-18 11:05:44

lol, rampage beat chuck like a red headed step child in pride. chuck didn’t lose by submission,KO, or TKO, he lost b/c he threw in the towel. in my mind, that’s a cardinal sin in fighting, u never quit just b/c ur getting beat up a little bit. he quit b/c he absolutely wanted no more of rampage jackson, he’d had all he could take, and trust me, rampage had plenty more left to dish out. chuck CAN’T beat rampage

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Comment by yohnstoppable
2008-04-18 12:21:28

I wouldn’t say he CAN’T beat rampage (Frye vs Goodridge 3, anyone?).

However, If Jardine beats Silva he is definitely more deserving of a shot. So is Machida. If Chuck beats Rashad he is the #3 contender imo

 
Comment by BLOodyMEss
2008-04-18 12:37:16

chuck threw in the towel at himself huh? what do you think happened? he walked to the corner, got a towel and threw it in? his corner threw in the towel because chuck was lost. he never quit. what do you think he is canadian? he didnt tap out from strikes like that Frenchie overrated poster boy you all love

 
Comment by triangle choke
2008-04-18 13:32:37

Well put! Serra’s bringing the belt and one of Frenchie’s arms back to NY!

 
Comment by joe smith
2008-04-20 21:01:24

How does that humble pie taste?

 
 
 
 
Comment by Louis
2008-04-18 10:04:28

COME TO TORONTO PLEASE!

 
Comment by PW
2008-04-18 10:11:58

Did I miss something? I didn’t hear a word about Rampage or Liddell. I still enjoyed their take on the gambling on GSP and Serra though.

Comment by TonyDrip
2008-04-18 11:35:15

Me too man….I didn’t hear anything about Chuck/Rampage?

Comment by PJJ
2008-04-18 14:30:15

It’s in the third video segment.

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Comment by Jason
2008-04-18 14:39:34

Did you actually watch all 3 videos? They definitely talked about it in #3 right before discussing that you’re only as good as your last fight. Listen again.

 
 
Comment by Lycan
2008-04-18 10:18:34

You know Liddell and Rampage only fought ONCE in Pride, cuz that sencond fight lasting a little over a minute ain’t sh*t!

Comment by haemophiliac
2008-04-18 11:17:28

a fight is a fight… if chuck knocks someone out with one punch you consider it to be a fight… cause that’s what chuck does… but when he gets ktfo its not a fight??? rampage completely whooped him in pride… which i think would have been more emphatic in a cage… as when i held chuck up and took him down he could use the cage and elbows… and he beat him down in the standup too… second fight he knocked him out clean… how is that not a fight??? rampage has the tools to beat chuck 9/10 times… cause he can take punishment… he throws bombs too… he’s stronger than chuck and can actually physically overpower him… he’s a better standup fighter than chuck technically and he can take a punch… they threw wrestlers and jui-jitsu guys at chuck for years… but the key to beating chuck is to out-strike him and be able to take a punch… that’s how rampage beat him both times and its why jardine beat him… he out-struck him… even when randy beat him he out-struck him…

rampage is the sh*t and nobody except machida has a chance of taking the belt off him… with ufc rules i think he’d beat shogun and wandy too…

Comment by Greggo
2008-04-18 16:26:10

Call me crazy but I think Griffin has a shot at taking down Rampage. Yeah, it’s a long shot, I’ll admit, but didn’t everyone say the same thing about Forrest vs Shogun?

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Comment by Xad
2008-04-18 10:19:12

Pretty good interview!

 
Comment by The Legend
2008-04-18 10:37:39

I don’t want too see Rampage knockout Chuck again.

 
Comment by Big D
2008-04-18 10:54:09

Nobody wants to see chuck get dominated again give it up. It’s the ufcs dream to have chuck as their poster boy forever and it aint happening Suddenly he wins against Wandi(and we know how great the pride fighters have doen)and he’s invincible again. Let’s get past Rashad Evans who trains with Jardine who beat chuck first.

 
Comment by kama kaze
2008-04-18 11:01:51

NOBODY is beating Rampage anytime soon! – but shogun or wandy fights make sense.

Comment by john
2008-04-18 11:12:26

Kama kaze: I couldn’t agree more! Too many fighters like Jardine and Machida have earned there shot, If Chuck gets the winner of Forrest/Rampage (which will be Rampage), I will be really pissed off!

UFC needs to stop awarding title shots to the fighter that brings in the most money and start giving there title shots to the fighters that have earned them, if not the UFC will never be a real sport.

Take the NBA for Example: Last years Finals was a match up that nobody watched: Spurs vs. Cavs. The league knew that nobody watches the spurs (ratings took a big hit), but they let the chips fall where they may and thats the NBA finals that we got to see.

Comment by kama kaze
2008-04-18 12:09:50

NBA would have LA vs Bos every year if it was all about money. The western conf is crazy this year by the way! I like the DREAM Grand Prix idea by the way.

Machida and Jardine certainly did earn their shot at getting raped and ravaged. Page will go through the motions of destroying these 2 if he needs to, no doubt they deserve it, they’re next in line.

Another thing is that even though Shogun and Wandy are both coming off losses, does it really matter? They already KO’d Rampage and that should mean something in regards to contendership especially since Rampage is champ. No sense having the guys that already beat him waiting to prove themselves ready for a guy they already beat.

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Comment by kama kaze
2008-04-18 12:13:44

LOL.. i know.. grammar nightmare. (yes. english is my first language)

 
Comment by john
2008-04-18 12:58:02

Kama kaze: U bring up a great point about how Shogun and Wanderlie should not have to earn a title shot as much as the rest of the contenders
9while Rampage is champ). They DESTROYED Rampage (1 of mt favorite fighters)…it was real ugly, they should not need all these wins to fight someone who they destroyed already. These fights should have been booked immediately. Rampage is dying to fight them again, they want to fight Rampage again, but dumb ass Dana is having Shogun and Rampage wasting their time fighting Forrest Gump.

I dont get it!

 
Comment by triangle choke
2008-04-18 13:36:15

waste of time? Forrest put shogun to sleep RNC style, how was that a waste of time.

I know he’s not the strongest or most technical fighter but don’t sleep on the gump.

 
Comment by john
2008-04-18 13:42:10

Rampage will show you all why throwing no defense/no Ko power having Forrest in a title fight against the champ (in the best division in the UFC) who happens to have one of the best chins in the game and an over abundance of KO power in either hand….Is a WASTE OF TIME!!!

I am a huge fan of Forrest, but the UFC is causing me to start hating him by giving him a title shot over so many more deserving fighters who have truely paid their dues.

Forrest has 1 big, but controversial win, in his entire career…..I guess that gets you a title shot in the UFC these days, what a shame!

 
Comment by kama kaze
2008-04-18 14:04:18

not that we have a choice, but who do you think is more deserving of title shot?
- avenge losses, or (ie: wandy, chonan)
- current top contenders (ie: fitch, machida, okami)

 
Comment by john
2008-04-19 09:55:58

Its hard to say. If Dana really wanted to find out who was more deserving he would have matched up the current contenders vs avenge losses and we would have some clarity in the division. But putting together fights like Machida vs. Ortiz, only cloud things up even more and is a loose/loose situation for Machida. The more he clouds up the title picture, the more easily he will be able to justify giving Liddell a 3rd shot at Rampage.

The only good match up booked at Lightheavyweight is Wanderlei (avenge loss) vs. Jardine (top contender)….Winner should get the next crack at Rampage.

I am a big Liddell fan, but Dana’s undying love for Chucky-poo is making me really start to hate him. I will sadly have to root for Rashad so that Chuck doesnt get another shot at Rampage! Stuff like this is what makes people hate on Dana. he needs to stop trying to influence championships and start basing them on merit.

Like you said, if the NBA operated like Dana we would be seeing Lakers vs. Celtics in the championship every year.

 
 
 
 
Comment by ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY!
2008-04-18 11:07:16

I think the last top contender for rampage will be forrest and that will be it for a long while. This will be a great fight.

 
Comment by john
2008-04-18 11:13:19

Thanks for the assist Mania, and for those of you that cant find the part about Rampage, its on the 3rd video!

 
Comment by wAyNe
2008-04-18 11:14:44

The second fight is good fodder for highlight reels, but it isn’t a realistic gauge of Rampage’s dominance. Everyone knows both of these guys have knock out power.

 
Comment by UFC 85
2008-04-18 11:57:11

I dont wanna see Chuck vs Rampage 3!!!!

Rampage vs Machida
Rampage vs Jardine
Rampage vs Shogun

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chuck needs to earn his f’ing shot! He lost to Rampage twice already. I dont wanna waste money, so I wouldnt buy it.

Comment by JV
2008-04-18 17:43:49

Thats what Chuck is doing! What does the man have to do for ya’ll to think he deserves a title shot? He punished Wandy and was going to punish HOgun too. He’s not being givin cans to build him back up.

 
 
Comment by Toms Bombs
2008-04-18 12:00:26

Chuck won’t beat Rampage. He connected plenty of times against Wandy and couldn’t get the KO, what makes you think he’ll do it to the man with the biggest head in the UFC? lol Rampage will smash everyone!

Comment by Chadx23
2008-04-18 12:56:24

I dont see Chuck KOing Rampage ever…if he ever beat Rampage it would be by descision or possibly TKO if Rampage got exhausted…just like the way Rampage TKO’d Chuck the first time when Chuck was gassed out…Chuck will never do to Rampage what Rampage did to Chuck in the 2nd fight in my opinion…and I’m a HUGE Chuck fan by the way. I would like to see them fight agian, but Chuck would probably lose and that would just make him look bad. Let Chuck fight Rashad, and if he wins, give him Jardine, if he can get passed Wanderlei…basically I’m saying I would like to see Chuck win 2 more times before gettign a crack at Rampage if Rampage gets passed Forrest, or should I say when??? lol

 
 
Comment by David
2008-04-18 12:08:00

Great interview! I like Dana a lot more when he’s talking about the UFC and the sport’s future, rather than ragging on ProElite or Tito Ortiz. He’s a bit of an asshole, and arrogant as hell. But he’s a visionary. UFC is just gonna keep on growing.

 
Comment by arodofiron
2008-04-18 12:23:54

Dana’s point on the international nature of MMA is the best thing of this interview… But the interview in whole was pretty good.

 
Comment by Mr. Jitters
2008-04-18 12:24:17

GSP has fought in Montreal. Back in TKO days.

 
Comment by DAvlat
2008-04-18 12:58:03

dana is funny though, would anyone care if he signs Fedor? I think he was kidding about fedor

Comment by DonnyG
2008-04-18 15:11:05

None of my friends know who Fedor is and they Love the UFC. I try and tell them but until you watch him fight a few times no one cares.

 
 
Comment by DAvlat
2008-04-18 12:58:03

dana is funny though, would anyone care if he signs Fedor? I think he was kidding about fedor

 
Comment by Fidel Cashflow
2008-04-18 13:07:56

I don’t care to see Rampage v Liddell 3. If rampage beats chuck again, he should have done just that. If chuck wins, everyone would call it an upset and a fluke.

I’d actually be more interested to see him rematch silva or jardine. He’s already stated he’d like those matches.

 
Comment by linx
2008-04-18 13:08:01

LOL, at 37 seconds into the third video dana says that chuck does what he wants to do. Yeah, I kinda figured that one myself. There will be a third fight between chuck and page, ’cause that’s what chucky wants… (but I really don’t care for chuck vs page 3 that much).

 
Comment by BigMeesh
2008-04-18 13:14:09

Thanks for the upload and good interview.

 
Comment by Steven
2008-04-18 13:27:24

OMG I am so happy that guy on the score was pushing Calgary hard! A show here in Calgary would be amazing cause I know a ton of people would make the 3 hour drive from Edmonton to see it and quite a few would make the 10 hour drive from Vancouver to see it.

The dome holds 22,500 (give or take) and as the guy said it would sell out as fast as Montreal did. Plus they would get to experiance the C of Red! If that ever happens I think I just might die of a heartattack.

DAvlat his comments on Fedor I think went more so to the casual fan because most of them have no idea even who Fedor is. Like Dana said put him in a line up and most casual fans would have no idea who he was! Hardcore fans would be extatic though and he knows it.

Comment by triangle choke
2008-04-18 13:46:44

They need to have a show in DETROIT if they wanna see the real SEA OF RED. just kidding the wings suck and are probably done after sunday afternoon’s game.

Damn it!

 
 
Comment by RyanD
2008-04-18 14:05:11

lol, rampage beat chuck like a red headed step child in pride. chuck didn’t lose by submission,KO, or TKO, he lost b/c he threw in the towel. in my mind, that’s a cardinal sin in fighting, u never quit just b/c ur getting beat up a little bit. he quit b/c he absolutely wanted no more of rampage jackson, he’d had all he could take, and trust me, rampage had plenty more left to dish out. chuck CAN’T beat rampage

YOUR AN IDIOT CHUCK DIDNT THROW IN THE TOWEL HIs CORNER DID, SO IF ANYONE BLAME TO CORNERMEN NOT THE FIGHTER CHUMP!

 
Comment by DonnyG
2008-04-18 14:34:29

Yeah Dana! That rant at the end of the interview was awesome.

 
Comment by Jason
2008-04-18 14:49:20

1. The UFC needs to work with Casino Rama and Fallsview Management Corp to push this through.

2. The Ontario Gov’t needs to wake up see the cash the UFC WILL bring in to Ontario.

3. If the Government is worried about allowing MMA in for liability issues, put the liability on the UFC, clubs and promoters. Combat sports needs regulation and by allowing MMA in Ontario will weed out all of the clubs that are running questionable operations and force them to comply with standards and best practice and the UFC has those.

 
Comment by Jason
2008-04-18 14:50:16

1. The UFC needs to work with Casino Rama and Fallsview Management Corp to push this through.

2. The Ontario Gov’t needs to wake up see the cash the UFC WILL bring in to Ontario.

3. If the Government is worried about allowing MMA in for liability issues, put the liability on the UFC, clubs and promoters. bottom line is that combat sports needs regulation and by allowing MMA in Ontario will weed out all of the clubs that are running questionable operations and force them to comply with standards and best practice and the UFC has those.

 
Comment by PJJ
2008-04-18 14:50:17

I was hoping for a close up on that rack. Looked nice.

John, great assist to Mania on this interview. It was definitely an interesting listen. It is an interview like this that makes me wonder why people hate Dana so much. Yeah, he showed what a gigantic ego he has (it’s huge) but the things he was saying were not without merit. And it is always apparent how much he loves the sport and invests himself into it.

This is the first time I have heard White comment at length (outside of the short little “That guy Shaw, Cuban, etc. is an f’n joke” quotes) about other promoters and hit the nail on the head. They are coming in trying to make a fast buck without the structure that the UFC provides in its business efforts.

 
Comment by SUSPIRIA
2008-04-18 18:04:33

yeah I definitely want to see it because it was so close.so was the 1st fight.could have went either way both times.

 
Comment by bubuli
2008-04-18 23:24:24

nah. its just a marketing ploy of dana. whomever chuck figths. the ppv are great!! but he would be beaten by rampange once again.chuck stared down with rampage in part 2 and ended up looking at the ref. he’s scared of rampage. the reason they wanna do it again is that they wanna increase the ppv of the ufc(which is down in the 1st quarter compared to 06 and 07) and if chuck wins then ppv of the ufc would skyrocket.but thats kinda unfair jardine beat chuck.the plan is they wanna hike the value of the company and then sell it.. look at the timing.they went to forbes to market the whole thing…Dana: ” i think were just scratching the surface of this sport” !!! hahaha sound like a salesman enticing investors

 
Comment by Homeslice
2008-04-19 00:12:20

i dont care how focused Lutter thinks he is……..there is “NO WAY” he can beat Silva……..

 
Comment by Abz
2008-04-19 04:44:50

Give chuck a chance. 1st time he fought rampage, ok he he lost fair and square. The second time, chuck wasnt all there he had been out clubbing wasnt fully focused on the fight, therefore got wuuped, but the iceman is back now, he dismantled wandi big time, they guy who smashed rampage twice. So watch out Rampage, the Iceman is back ne gona kO’ed big time. Iceman rules

 
Comment by Abz
2008-04-19 04:45:18

iceman foreva

 
Comment by Frogs legs
2008-04-20 12:16:38

Please, please, please please please no more rampage vs liddel fights. Rampage has your number, let it go, you lost two in a row, we dont need a tie breaker, that would be soooo f@$#ing lame!!

 
Comment by Blootz
2008-04-25 17:45:13

Who wants to see this again? I would like to see Rampage fight someone else instead of a 40 year old guy he knocked out even before I got my beer cracked open. Look I got a lot of respect for Chuck, but he was clearly out matched. It’s not like they fought all 5 rounds. It was a pretty definitive KO. The UFC needs to start putting some of these “octagon legend” fighters out to pasture (Chuck, Ortiz, Jardine, BJ Penn) because it’s getting a little stale. It’s like watching Hogan wrestle Macho Man for the 50th time. Dana is a douche.

 
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