
It’s no secret that Michael “The Count” Bisping and Charles “Chainsaw” McCarthy are not exactly friendly with one another. The two have traded insults over the past few weeks. You can see the evidence here and here.
But a week from Saturday all will be settled inside the Octagon. They’ll have a chance to put their money where their mouths are at UFC 83: “Serra vs. St. Pierre 2″ on April 19 in Montreal, Quebec.
I caught up with Bisping to see how he’s been preparing to counter McCarthy’s submission attempts, find out his thoughts on his previous fights with Rashad Evans and Matt Hamill, and to ask him point blank how he responds to criticism from some fans who feel he’s been pampered by the UFC (he makes a pretty convincing argument that it’s all “rubbish”).
Always candid, Bisping shed light on the UFC’s middleweight division and the reason he’d really like to fight someone who’s not afraid to stand and bang with him.
Adam Wagner (MMAmania.com): Thanks, Michael. We appreciate you taking the time to talk … we know you’re busy getting ready to fight Charles “Chainsaw” McCarthy at UFC 83 in Montreal, Canada. This is your middleweight debut. How important is a win?
Michael Bisping: It’s a must-win situation. I have to win this fight. I lost my last fight — it’s the only loss of my career — but I don’t want to make a habit of losing. This is my first fight at 185, and I want to start it off in the right way. I don’t want to start off with a loss.
Adam Wagner (MMAmania.com): You two have traded barbs in the press. He called you “average” in every way. You called him your “fat little friend.”
Michael Bisping: Yeah (laughs).
Adam Wagner (MMAmania.com): Let’s get right to it. How badly do you want to knock this guy’s head off?
Michael Bisping: I’d like to make a statement with this fight because he’s not only disrespected me, but he’s disrespected all my previous opponents and disrespected my skills. He said I’m average, and to be honest, I think I’m far from average. So I want to teach the guy a lesson. He has no respect, so I’d like to teach him some respect.
Adam Wagner (MMAmania.com): All 10 of McCarthy’s victories have come via submission (half of which are by armbar). Clearly, he’ll want to submit you as soon as possible. How have you been preparing to counter this?
Michael Bisping: Yeah, of course he’s going to look to try to submit me. I think that’s his only hope, to be honest. He probably has got better gi jiu-jitsu — who knows, he might have the edge on me. I’m no slouch on the ground either, myself, but let’s assume that he has. But I don’t think he has better MMA jiu-jitsu, I think the two are two different things.
In preparation for this fight … obviously number one, he’s going to have to get me down to the ground. My takedown defense is pretty good. I’ve been working with some good wrestlers to keep the fight on the feet. I’ve been working with various different blackbelts out here in California. Of course we do a lot of jiu-jitsu at our gym in England, as well, but I’ve been rolling with a bunch of different guys to get me sharp on the ground and get my submission defense good.
Adam Wagner (MMAmania.com): Have you been training up in Big Bear?
Michael Bisping: No, not for this fight. I’ve trained with the Wolfslair, with my team in England leading up to the fight, and then for the last three or four weeks I’ve been out here in Huntington Beach, Calif.
Adam Wagner (MMAmania.com): Between you and McCarthy, only three fights total have gone to decision, which makes me think this is going to be a quick fight. Let’s assume I’m wrong though. Do you think McCarthy will be able to be effective going into a third round with you?
Michael Bisping: No, I really don’t. I really don’t think he’ll be able to be effective in the third round against me. I don’t think he’ll be able to be effective in the first round — you know, maybe for the first minute or two, but I set a fast pace early, and that’s what I’m going to do in this fight. I assume he’ll probably be gassing toward the end of the first round.
Adam Wagner (MMAmania.com): Has that played into your preparation at all? Have you prepared for a quick fight?
Michael Bisping: No, I’ve been going three six-minute rounds everyday, whether it’s wrestling or sparring — whatever it is, I’ve been doing that everyday, so I can go the distance. I could go five rounds if I wanted to, to be honest. That’s where my cardio is right now. But if the fight is over in 30 seconds, then that’s great, you know. But I’m prepared to go the full distance.
Adam Wagner (MMAmania.com): You’re coming off the first loss of your career to Rashad Evans. Take us back to that fight. What could you have done to better prepare yourself for that fight?
Michael Bisping: Well, I trained in the gym in England, and obviously in England, it’s hard to get a lot of good wrestlers. So any preparation I would have changed would have been to try and get more high-caliber wrestlers to train with everyday.
That’s kind of what let me down, but I still feel I did well on the wrestling front. To be honest, I should have pushed the action a little bit more. So if I changed anything, I would have pushed the pace a little bit more. But you learn from your mistakes.
Adam Wagner (MMAmania.com): A lot of people think that your split decision victory over Matt Hamill should have gone the other way. I’ll be honest with you, though, I’m not one of them. I thought that it was a close fight, no question, but it wasn’t the closest I’ve ever seen. What’s your take on that fight, and would you be willing to give Hamill a rematch later on down the road, even if it meant returning to 205?
Michael Bisping: Yeah, absolutely. You know, I’ve watched the fight a few times since then. The fight was really close. He won the first round, definitely. But I think I just scraped rounds two and three. I landed more shots.
A lot of people who just listen to the commentary seem to think that Hamill won the fight, but if you watch the fight with an open mind and don’t listen to the biased commentary, then you might have a different opinion. All the professionals involved in the sport gave it to me. Sherdog.com scored it 29-28, the judges scored it 29-28, the referee … Joe Silva agreed I should have won. A lot of people like that think that I won the fight. Although 29-28, you know, is a close fight.
I can see why some people would argue the other way, but for some people to say that it was completely the biggest fucking robbery ever is just ridiculous. But to be honest, I’m sick of talking about it.
Adam Wagner (MMAmania.com): I know going into that fight you two weren’t exactly fond of each other. Since you fought him, did you gain any more respect for him?
Michael Bisping: Yeah, you gotta respect the guy. He’s definitely improved, he’s a tough competitor. He’s a tough guy, he’s tough as hell. So I respect him on that front. He cried and moaned a bit about the decision afterwards. He wrote some things on his Web site, and this and that, which obviously I wasn’t too keen on (laughs). But whatever. Like I say, I’m kinda done talking about that subject.
Adam Wagner (MMAmania.com): Okay, well, excluding your most recent fights with Hamill and Rashad, one of the criticisms that has followed you is that the UFC has pampered you a bit, feeding you fighters who might not be at your level to help not only build your name, but also to leverage your reputation to help break into the British market. How do you respond to these criticisms?
Michael Bisping: Well quite simply like this: I think that’s just not the case. If you look at my first fight with Eric Schafer he had a 9-1 record and was coming off a solid victory (over Rob MacDonald) in the UFC where he choked his guy unconscious. That was the first fight on my contract, and I passed the test.
My second fight was Elvis Sinosic, who certainly didn’t have the best record but he’s very, very experienced. He’s fought a lot of people. And Forrest Griffin also fought Elvis Sinosic on the second fight of his Ultimate Fighter contract.
Adam Wagner (MMAmania.com): That’s right.
Michael Bisping: My third fight was Matt Hamill, who’s a huge 205er and a world-class wrestler — an internationally decorated wrestler. For any U.K. guys, a wrestler is going to be a problem because wrestling is kinda like our kryptonite. So I wouldn’t say that that was favorable match-making.
And my last fight was Rashad Evans, who again is a powerful, recognized wrestler and one of the top guys in the 205-pound division. So I think when you look at it like that, it doesn’t really stack up well that I’m being protected. But you can’t please everyone, and everyone is going to moan and bitch and whine about something, so, there’s nothing to it.
Adam Wagner (MMAmania.com): Well now that you’re a Middleweight, there are a handful of Middleweights who are known for being sluggers, like Nate Quarry and Chris Leben. Are there any Middleweights in particular who you’d like to fight, just because it’d make for an exciting matchup? I mean, obviously if you could get a title shot, that would be your first priority, but beyond that, are there any Middleweights who you would just like to bang with?
Michael Bisping: Yeah, exactly, I don’t want to single anyone out in particular, because I’ve got no history with anyone at 185. But that’s what I want, I want to go out there and have a fight with some guys and just let it all loose and just bang it out, you know.
My last two fights have been against wrestlers who were going to try and take me down, which means I’ve got to adapt to their style. You know, I can’t let loose with my punches like I’d like to, or time my kicks, because I know the guy’s just going to try to take me down.
This fight is going to be a similar scenario because he’s looking to take me down. He’s going to look for me to make a mistake so he can take me down and try to get into his world.
So I’m really looking forward to a good stand-up brawl, a good fight where I can just let it all loose, and just really let it go and fight. I mean, that’s what I’d like to do. I’ve got a good chin. I’ve never been knocked out or TKO’d. I’ve done a lot of kickboxing in the past, so that’s what I’d like to do, and I’m looking forward to when that day comes, and I’m sure it will too.
Adam Wagner (MMAmania.com): Yeah, well, I’d love to see that, too. Another middleweight fighter, Jason MacDonald, has talked about you. Although he said that he thinks you are a quality fighter, but he would love the opportunity to fight you, just because he thinks that your styles match up in his favor. Is there any interest in that fight?
Michael Bisping: Well for me not really. He’s just another jiu-jitsu guy who would look to try to take me down again. I’m not interested in those kinds of match ups. He’s been beat by Rich Franklin — and Rich Franklin is out of title contention right now — and he’s been beat by him. So it doesn’t really make any sense for me to want to fight him right now. I’d gain nothing from it.
Thanks to The Ultimate Fighter I’m quite widely recognized in MMA, so he’s probably just looking to make a name off trying to beat me. So that fight would be good for him — I don’t mean good for him in terms of, you know, he’d be able to beat me, but rather, I mean he’d gain more from that fight by beating me than I stand to gain from beating him. You know, I’m just aiming for a title right now.
Adam Wagner (MMAmania.com): Sure. Hey, someone asked me if you keep in touch with Ross Pointon on at all?
Michael Bisping: Not really. The short answer is no. I see him and catch up with him and say hello. He’s a friend, but Ross is busy doing his thing, and I’m busy doing mine.
Adam Wagner (MMAmania.com): UFC 83 features some good fights. I’m actually stoked because I just found out recently that I’ll be going. There are a lot of good middleweight match ups, including Rich Franklin vs. Travis Lutter. Who do you like in that fight?
Michael Bisping: Um … well I don’t know, you know, I think it’s going to be an intriguing fight to watch. If he looks like he did against Anderson Silva, you kinda lean toward Travis Lutter, to be honest. But I’m expecting Rich Franklin to beat him. But I think Travis Lutter will give him a good fight.
Adam Wagner (MMAmania.com): Well, Michael, I really appreciate you taking the time to talk with us, as I know you are really busy. Would you like to thank any sponsors, and do you have any parting words for your fans?
Michael Bisping: Yeah sure. I’d just like to say thanks to all my fans who tune in to watch and who send me messages through my Web site. It really does mean a lot, and it’s not something I take for granted. So I’d like to thank them all for that. For me, just coming from a normal background, it really does blow my mind to be able to even say that I have fans. It seems kind of strange, but they’re treating me right.
I’d like to thank my sponsors, TapOuT and Hostility. If people want to follow what I’m up to, they can also check out my Web site. Hopefully stop by, and if you’re a real fan, buy a bloody t-shirt (laughs).
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Bisping will win by TKO in the very first round.
You’ve all heard me say it already, but here I go, after Bisping puts charles “I’m gonna get beat by an average fighter” Mcarthy into retirement, he will beat the winner of the Franklin/Lutter matchup, and then get his chance to be destroyed by Anderson Silva (in Dec or Jan. Who else deserves a title shot ay MW? He was a small LHW and yet held his own against all comers, at MW he’ll be a beast!!
Same thing goes for a mr Dan Henderson,but like you said, it’s going to be tough for anyone to beat A Silva
even when im reading his interview his accent annoys me.
I imagined that whole interview in his voice too. LOL
If you think that’s bad, try reading an interview with Matt Hammill.
LMAO that’s great
Everyone has an accent, Americans have annoying accents to a lot of people ‘duuuuuuuuuuuuuuude’
quility interveiw to shut up all the haters
he will be king of 185 belive me.
?????? Is that after Anderson rips his nuts off?
What would you say if he got his ass beat down quite convincingly by McCarthy?? Then what? I know there’s a ‘q’ word in there but don’t confuse yourself, or mispell your near future thoughts. Belive Me.
yea i dnt see captain miserable making it out of the first round with bisping..i dont know who id pick if he did get a fight with franklin but i dont see him beating silva anytime soon
even if he destroys mccarthy, he will not have respect. mccarthy is suppossed to be a bum. he may have to fight leben or the loser of lutter/franklin to earn respect.
i agree though, either way, anderson owns this division from now until he is 83 years old.
I am one of the few people on this site that thought he deserved the win against Hammil. He made a great point about the Biased commentary, because everytime I re watch that fight (same goes for wandy vs. Liddell), I turn the volume down and dont listen to Rogan or Goldberg and I see a different perspective than when I watched it live, with the commentary!
Watching some fights with out the commentary really gives you a better insight on to what is actually taking place. Too often the announcers try to distort the reality, and I have fallen for it in the past…Not any more!
I agree John, my wife and I both thought Bisping won that fight, he controlled the stand up and got up quickly after every take down (which should cunt more on the decision)
Off topic, whats your deal man, you say your unbiased, but when someone disagrees with you you get all bent man, my comments are very neutral and unbiased and I apologize if my knowledge for MMA exceeds most!!
What does the commentating have to do with the judges decisions? It was a bad decision and your blind if you thought Bisping won that fight.
i agree as well as far as hamill and though he at least fought rashad to a draw. this fight w/ tupperware is a set-up but i dont get why so many say he is being protected. hamill just dominated boestch and rashad beat (imo) tito and is fighting chuck next. i think alot of people dont like him because of his nationality, wich i cant stand. so what if he talks funny and is a little cocky so is b.j penn. matter of fact i think most of the b.j. haters dont like him probably cause they dont know he’s an american because he doesnt look like them!
Yes, very true about the commentators. The Arlovski O’Brien fight was disgusting. Rogan gave the first round to Jake even though Arlovski stuffed every single takedown attempt emphatically, you have to score those. Andrei made Jake looked stupid.
Dana and the Fertittas must be whispering BS in Rogan’s ear from time to time.
I am sick of living a lie: i am a closet Bipsing fan! I like his kick boxing and his brash british personality, and I expect him to do well at middleweight.
Question: Will he be a bigger middleweight than Rich Franklin? Anyone?
about same size as Franklin (who is also a big MW) but will beat him quite easily IMO
I doubt it. Jason MacDonald said that he’s stood next to Bisping and was surprised that he’s actually bigger than the Brit. MacDonald said he walks around heavier than Bisping when they’re not dropping weight. I’m not sure how Franklin measures up to MacDonald, but I’d imagine he’s bigger than him.
Franklin is quite a bit bigger than Bisping..To be honest, Bisping wont even be a big Middleweight…On Tuf he was smaller than Ed Herman, and most other middleweights..I think even McCarthy will be bigger than him, nevertheless, I hope Bisping puts it on McCarthy
I don’t think so. Franklin is a huge MW, as is Okami. I think he will have a slight size and strength disadvantage against those two, but it won’t much and it won’t be nearly as pronounced as it was when he was at LHW. BTW, I’m a Bisping fan too. Maybe we should start a 12-step Bisping recovery program.
LOL…funny as
Yeh I’m thinking Bisbing is smaller, Rich looks a lot more pumped, Bisbing doesn’t look like he does too many weights. Not sure who the taller fighter is though
I would join the 12-step program….I need help,and thats the 1st part of recovery, admitting that you have a problem. I cant help myself, I root for Bisping….I am a fan of the COUNT! PLEASE HELP!!! lol
John, I would say that Rich is the bigger man. Rich used to have to cut weight to make LHW. Bisping needed to move his bowels twice in the same day to make LHW.
The people that think that Bisping would beat Franklin:
What does Bisping do better than Rich?
I see Rich having the advantage in every aspect of the fight. Plus, Rich has KO power, something that Bisping is seriously lacking.
I am looking forward to seeing Bisping KO McCarthy. But seeing that I put money on Bisping at -350 like 4 weeks ago, he’ll probably lose if my luck goes like it did on UFN…
Yeah its so funny how everyone thinks Rich is a bum now just cause he cant beat Anderson Silva. Honwestly, I dont know of any middleweights that can beat Silva, so why all the hate for Rich.
I am a Bisping fan butto say he could beat Rich Franklin is just crazy talk!
i hope they put bisping and okami together so okami can ko’d
Bisping won’t be the biggest or strongest middleweight but he certainly will not be out powered by anyone either.
Which for Bisping’s style will be very important, it will mean he won’t need to worry about being taken down cos he will get striaght back up. Evan’s had trouble keeping Bisping on his back.
Right on for getting us the goods, Adam!
I like Bisping. He’s funny. He could be more aggressive by throwing more and applying more pressure just like he said himself. Wrestlers have all kinds of problems holding him down. No doubt he’ll put the captain out of his misery! He’ll needs a BIG win! or that’ll be 3 in a row “in my book”. THIS IS SURVIVAL! After he takes care of ol’Mccarthy, he NEEDS to fight Leben. BOTH are high profile, and would gain RESPECT they both need in their division! The winner will be in contention. A FINISH would silence the doubters of either guy. OH BOY!
i think bisping and rich’s style is really the same except bisping may have better take-downs and rich has better power otherwise its a mirror image. they both swing in the same fashion wide looping punchesa id love to see this fight.
I don’t know, he got outstruck by Hamill in the first round, and I think if he fights Franklin he’s going to get KO’d. If he fights Silva he’s going to the morgue.
i agree he got outstriked by matt hamill. no way is he gonna hang in there with strikers like franklin or bisping.
i agree he got outstriked by matt hamill. no way is he gonna hang in there with strikers like franklin or silva.
Yeah, and maybe I’m reading too much into it, but it sounded like he took a dig at both Franklin and Silva at one point. He said if Franklin shows up for the fight vs Lutter like he did vs Silva, he’s in trouble. So Franklin is prone to putting in poor performances and just didn’t show up for the Silva fights? Franklin is very good, maybe the second best in the world at MW, but Silva is just that good. Bisping is likely going to find that out eventually.
Do you work for the media or something? Twisting a guy’s words, he obviously is not having a dig at Franklin..
micheal bisping vs. kendall grove???
there both season 3 winners. it would be an interesting fight.
Kendall is going to fight Tanner though, and when he loses, which there is a good chance he will, I fear it may be goodbye to the “Stick Insect” I mean Spider!
I’d rather see Cote Vs Bisbing or even Jorge Rivera Vs Bisbing
I actually wouldn’t mind seeing Kendall vs Bisping. Of course, Kendall would neeed to win his next fight against Tanner. However, Bisping is a step down from Tanner, but Kendall is on a 2 fight losing skid right now.
Are we still talking about this guy!!!!!!!!!
Please, Please stop giving this guy so much energy because he is a punk.
So not much of a hater then.
He is 14-1 with his only loss coming as a split to a top ten in the weight class above him. Not a real Bisping fan but to just dismiss him like that is immature.
Excellent interview, love this dude. Dig the post fight interviews w/ Rogan, enev though I can’t understand half the shit he says. Funny dude and underrated.
“enev”… even…my dyslexic ass…
bisping isnt a average fighter hes a unreal fighter mike most people on here dont like u cause ur english (respect)im from darlington near newcastle. just show these in the ring wat us english are all about mate. quality diet video buy the way bisping haha…. the count vs the cunt TKO first round to bisping
F*** Your from England?? Please don’t post again!!! You make us look bad bro with your seriously bad english…damn
Bisping = dipshit.
Really before his fight with Hamill I actuallyliked him.
Hes a sack and I wont change my mind.
I hope he does manage a title shot with Silva, give him an easy road so no excuses and after the massive head trauma he suffers he can try his luck vs Franklin.
I guess calling him a cas of tihs. (Backwards)
Wont make it through moderation.
After his battle with Hamill I lost all respect for him.
I refuse to respect Bisping untill he fights top 5 fighters. Period.
Give the guy a break. Hes gonna start to fight better people soon. Hes just moved to a different weight class so you can expect him to fight someone in the top 5. He wasnt in the top 5 in LHW. He is a good fighter we have just yet to see it against anyone who wasnt crushed tin or bent plastic.
Great interview! Its nice to see this sight give one of the most commonly bashed fighters a chance to speak for himself. I just don’t know why anyone would want to be a MW in the UFC right now. Whats the point?
Even after Bisping’s usual lip service, I still don’t have any respect for him. Not because he’s a British or his accent, but the way he treated people on and off the mat. He was bordering on insulting Hamill’s deafness on the reality tv and can’t seem to accept the fact that he couldn’t handle Hamill’s monstrous wrestling skill.
i don’t see how bisbings been potected. his weakness is his ground game and all they’ve put him in against his ground fighters. he lost to rashad, who has also been protected up until june, a loss as debatable as his hamill win but US fans didn’t feel the need to debate that result??????????
Lutter, Henderson and Okami will all give bisbing kittens but i feel franklin and Leben play into bisbings hands.
Silva???? just think he’s in a different league at the mo
When is Bisbing going to fight anyone with talent? He lost to Evans, everyone with a brain knows he lost to Hamill, and then before that, he beat a couple of punks. This guy is the most over rated fighter in MMA!! Next week, he’s fighting another punk. When he beat someone like Griffin, Jackson, Liddell, Ortiz, Rua, or Silva….then people can talk about how good this chump is. Until then…..keep his ass on fight nights beating up chumps!!!
Bisping doesn`t pick his fights his employers do and do you really think he doesn`t want to fight the top guys?think about it of course he does,Overall for a fighter at that stage in his career i don`t think his oppenents have been soft at all.That being said despite being a bisping fan i don`t think he is on the same level as people like silva or henderson but then again jardine beat liddell so who really knows.
NICE INTERVIEW MANIA!!!
Bisbing always sounds so relaxed/laid back
great interview - can’t wait to see what Bisping is going to do at this weight class.
I just like it when Bisping calls people Lads! manchester wheeeeeey! That was awesome!
Nice interview.
A thought for all the new MMAMania writers–don’t be afraid to challenge these guys in a professional way. There seems to be an inclination to tell the interviewees that you support them, liked their fight, etc. You’re now reporters–push them for information that we can’t get elsewhere, don’t pump up their egos. That’s what makes for a compelling site.
Think Jim Gray or Bob Costas, not Larry King.
Bisbing is a talented fighter. But he is not a top 10 LHW. Not sure if he is top 10 at middlewieght. Could be. Rich Franklin is much better than him, and him and Leben would be a pickem fight. Yeah recently Bisbing has been put in against better fighter. But look what happened. He looked bad in both performance. It was not about what announcers said. He was beat by Matt Hammill. Beat Soundly. And listen to this, Matt Hamill fought that fight with a damaged knee. Put that in perspective. Even standing Hamill was kicking his ass. Bisbing got some shots, but did not hurt Hamill. Where Bisbing was on the defensive the entire fight. It was only close cause Hamill let him up cause he said his knee was sore. Then against Rashad he did not do much, and that was with Rashad fighting nonchalantly. You have to be able to look at fights and analyze them clearly.