Comments on: Stopping Karo: You be the judge http://mmamania.com/2008/04/03/stopping-karo-you-be-the-judge/ UFC news, event schedules, fight analysis, Octagon predictions, UFC fighters and MMA thoughts Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:51:52 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Chris http://mmamania.com/2008/04/03/stopping-karo-you-be-the-judge/comment-page-5/#comment-458081 Chris Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:31:12 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/04/03/stopping-karo-you-be-the-judge/#comment-458081 THE ONLY PERSON THAT TALKS SO MUCH SENSE AND SAYS IT THE WAY THAT EXCATLY HAPPEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AMENNNNNNNNNNN THE ONLY PERSON THAT TALKS SO MUCH SENSE AND SAYS IT THE WAY THAT EXCATLY HAPPEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AMENNNNNNNNNNN

]]> By: Ultim8fighter http://mmamania.com/2008/04/03/stopping-karo-you-be-the-judge/comment-page-5/#comment-410250 Ultim8fighter Tue, 08 Apr 2008 03:49:50 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/04/03/stopping-karo-you-be-the-judge/#comment-410250 In my opinion the fight was stopped at the perfect time, Karo was not defending himself intelligently and his arms did not come up till Maz was already stopping the fight. As an MMA ref myself you have a split second to make a decission, right or wrong we have to protect the fighters, we do not have the luxury of watching a replay before making our decission, you have to go with your instincts. To Maz's defence I believe he gave Karo time to defend himself but with the unanswered blows he took Maz had no choice but to stop the fight and protect the fighter. In my opinion the fight was stopped at the perfect time, Karo was not defending himself intelligently and his arms did not come up till Maz was already stopping the fight.
As an MMA ref myself you have a split second to make a decission, right or wrong we have to protect the fighters, we do not have the luxury of watching a replay before making our decission, you have to go with your instincts. To Maz’s defence I believe he gave Karo time to defend himself but with the unanswered blows he took Maz had no choice but to stop the fight and protect the fighter.

]]> By: mma crazed http://mmamania.com/2008/04/03/stopping-karo-you-be-the-judge/comment-page-5/#comment-407638 mma crazed Sun, 06 Apr 2008 22:41:15 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/04/03/stopping-karo-you-be-the-judge/#comment-407638 MMA and the athletic commissions that regulate them have rules in place so that unlike boxing fighters are not severly injured. whether veteran or not the Karo and Alexander fights were stopped when the rules suggest, when a fighter is unable to intelligably defend themselves. In the Matt Serra fight when Karo was hit, he fell into a position that allowed him to recover and defend therefore no stoppage was needed, in this case he fell to his back and recieved more shots well on the ground. If all of these early stoppage theroists wish to see somebody get beat until they recieve a brain bled or anurism, go watch boxing after dark. MMA and the athletic commissions that regulate them have rules in place so that unlike boxing fighters are not severly injured. whether veteran or not the Karo and Alexander fights were stopped when the rules suggest, when a fighter is unable to intelligably defend themselves. In the Matt Serra fight when Karo was hit, he fell into a position that allowed him to recover and defend therefore no stoppage was needed, in this case he fell to his back and recieved more shots well on the ground. If all of these early stoppage theroists wish to see somebody get beat until they recieve a brain bled or anurism, go watch boxing after dark.

]]> By: RAIDERFAN http://mmamania.com/2008/04/03/stopping-karo-you-be-the-judge/comment-page-5/#comment-407124 RAIDERFAN Sun, 06 Apr 2008 16:25:00 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/04/03/stopping-karo-you-be-the-judge/#comment-407124 Karo was out, good stoppage ref, Karo could of gotten severely hurt if the fight continued Karo was out, good stoppage ref, Karo could of gotten severely hurt if the fight continued

]]> By: shinbob http://mmamania.com/2008/04/03/stopping-karo-you-be-the-judge/comment-page-5/#comment-406474 shinbob Sun, 06 Apr 2008 08:45:18 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/04/03/stopping-karo-you-be-the-judge/#comment-406474 Gsp was also taking flush shots, karo really wasn't he was covering up. so yeah, the damage a punch does to a person f's them up. but their fighters, thats what they do. and......actually you know what, i really don't care anymore lol. if Karo wasn't such a bitch about it maybe i would. but w/e. realistically thats how it goes sometimes, not to mention i'm pretty sure he would have lost the serra fight, if the ref didn't keep it going ( i actually don't really remember how bad he was rocked, but i'm pretty sure serra was beating the crap out of him ). but here's an idea instead of blaming everyone else, go back to the gym and work on your standup so you don't get ktfo again. shit happens deal with it, or go the fuck home. Gsp was also taking flush shots, karo really wasn’t he was covering up. so yeah, the damage a punch does to a person f’s them up. but their fighters, thats what they do. and……actually you know what, i really don’t care anymore lol. if Karo wasn’t such a bitch about it maybe i would. but w/e. realistically thats how it goes sometimes, not to mention i’m pretty sure he would have lost the serra fight, if the ref didn’t keep it going ( i actually don’t really remember how bad he was rocked, but i’m pretty sure serra was beating the crap out of him ). but here’s an idea instead of blaming everyone else, go back to the gym and work on your standup so you don’t get ktfo again. shit happens deal with it, or go the fuck home.

]]> By: nathan http://mmamania.com/2008/04/03/stopping-karo-you-be-the-judge/comment-page-5/#comment-405192 nathan Sat, 05 Apr 2008 14:15:03 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/04/03/stopping-karo-you-be-the-judge/#comment-405192 Karo got up and was safe BECAUSE it was stopped quickly, face it he was dropped and it was getting worse for him. Gsp was man enough to admit he was thankful big john came to his rescue, karo is a hot head and an ego maniac. Karo got up and was safe BECAUSE it was stopped quickly, face it he was dropped and it was getting worse for him. Gsp was man enough to admit he was thankful big john came to his rescue, karo is a hot head and an ego maniac.

]]> By: Da Monkey http://mmamania.com/2008/04/03/stopping-karo-you-be-the-judge/comment-page-5/#comment-404200 Da Monkey Sat, 05 Apr 2008 01:12:52 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/04/03/stopping-karo-you-be-the-judge/#comment-404200 [quote comment="403736"] These early stops are killing the sport! Another 3 or 4 punches to the head wont hurt the fighter and it gives them a chance to come back. This sport isnt for the weak![/quote] You are kidding right ? Another 3 or 4 blows would not kill them? Another 3 or 4 blows could be a huge difference in some cases of being a bubbling retard or just being ko'd. That has to be one of the most iggnorant things I have ever heard. Ask any Dr. what the difference in 3 or 4 punches could be. You need to watch dicovery channel. The were showing examples of high speed photograhy with Kenny Florian and Delagrotty. They were showing what happens to the body with a kick to the leg, punch to the side of the head, punch to the guy. And the amount of damage it causes with them just lightly punching is amazing. Yo know what has kept this sport so safe? The fact that guys are not given the opportunity to recover from being ko'd is why guys like Jeremy Horn is not a punch drunk idiot. 3 or 4 more punches could make all the difference in the world.... [quote comment="403736"]

These early stops are killing the sport! Another 3 or 4 punches to the head wont hurt the fighter and it gives them a chance to come back. This sport isnt for the weak![/quote]

You are kidding right ? Another 3 or 4 blows would not kill them? Another 3 or 4 blows could be a huge difference in some cases of being a bubbling retard or just being ko’d. That has to be one of the most iggnorant things I have ever heard. Ask any Dr. what the difference in 3 or 4 punches could be. You need to watch dicovery channel. The were showing examples of high speed photograhy with Kenny Florian and Delagrotty. They were showing what happens to the body with a kick to the leg, punch to the side of the head, punch to the guy. And the amount of damage it causes with them just lightly punching is amazing. Yo know what has kept this sport so safe? The fact that guys are not given the opportunity to recover from being ko’d is why guys like Jeremy Horn is not a punch drunk idiot. 3 or 4 more punches could make all the difference in the world….

]]> By: Kevin Kelly http://mmamania.com/2008/04/03/stopping-karo-you-be-the-judge/comment-page-5/#comment-404117 Kevin Kelly Fri, 04 Apr 2008 23:50:24 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/04/03/stopping-karo-you-be-the-judge/#comment-404117 I was so hoping Thiago would win and I couldnt believe when he did. I love the fact that Karo is cemented as a B level fighter and not top 5 !!!! He is a candy ass crybaby I was so hoping Thiago would win and I couldnt believe when he did. I love the fact that Karo is cemented as a B level fighter and not top 5 !!!! He is a candy ass crybaby

]]> By: nate diaz http://mmamania.com/2008/04/03/stopping-karo-you-be-the-judge/comment-page-4/#comment-404051 nate diaz Fri, 04 Apr 2008 22:37:04 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/04/03/stopping-karo-you-be-the-judge/#comment-404051 karo is a dick just rewatched this event... the nate diaz submission was awesome as was karo getting beat he didnt look i great shape and to compound what a jackass he is he actually had the cheek to push randy after the fight when he went to console him thought i saw it the first time... its right when hes tantrumming his way around the ring didnt even apppear to shake hands with his conqueror total lack of class his face was so funny while they were announcing alves as the winner on another note alves looked great and must be in the title picture now the talk all seems to be about karo the jackass losing but alves fought well karo is a dick

just rewatched this event… the nate diaz submission was awesome

as was karo getting beat

he didnt look i great shape

and to compound what a jackass he is he actually had the cheek to push randy after the fight when he went to console him

thought i saw it the first time… its right when hes tantrumming his way around the ring

didnt even apppear to shake hands with his conqueror

total lack of class

his face was so funny while they were announcing alves as the winner

on another note alves looked great and must be in the title picture now

the talk all seems to be about karo the jackass losing

but alves fought well

]]> By: shinbob http://mmamania.com/2008/04/03/stopping-karo-you-be-the-judge/comment-page-4/#comment-403935 shinbob Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:14:57 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/04/03/stopping-karo-you-be-the-judge/#comment-403935 IMO i don't think there's any argument to say if he was out or not, he clearly was. but there's been so many fights when someones been out for a split second, gained their composure back, then won the fight lol. Karo had his hands up, so like what the fuck are the ref's going by?? like is it one of those "hmm i don't really feel like reffing tonight, lets just make this a fast night" or "wow, i don't like karo, lets just call this one" lol. obviously i could say the opposite of both those statements, but i'm sure you get my point. like in the end i personally just wanna see a good fight, i'm sure karo wouldn't have really given a shit if he took a couple of shots in the face to prove that he could or couldn't have defended himself. IMO i don’t think there’s any argument to say if he was out or not, he clearly was. but there’s been so many fights when someones been out for a split second, gained their composure back, then won the fight lol. Karo had his hands up, so like what the fuck are the ref’s going by?? like is it one of those “hmm i don’t really feel like reffing tonight, lets just make this a fast night” or “wow, i don’t like karo, lets just call this one” lol. obviously i could say the opposite of both those statements, but i’m sure you get my point. like in the end i personally just wanna see a good fight, i’m sure karo wouldn’t have really given a shit if he took a couple of shots in the face to prove that he could or couldn’t have defended himself.

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