Huerta/Florian would be a war…and a legit fight to determine the #1 contender IMO.

[quote comment=”400513″]Huerta/Florian would be a war…and a legit fight to determine the #1 contender IMO.[/quote]

I think KenFlo has earned status of number 1 contender. He has finished 7 fights out of 9 in the UFC, with only 1 happening past the 2nd round. He is on a 4 fight win streak, and I think he deserves a shot over Roger Huerta.

I think a Roger Huerta vs. Gray Maynard match would be more fitting.

As well as a Nate Diaz vs. Tyson Griffin fight.

Unless that fight happens sooner than Sept., I think Florian is already the logical choice as no.1 contender. I would love to see Huerta with that opportunity but keep the belt busy. A LW title fight in May means it should be defended again in Aug/Sept. No more putting the belts on hold.

What is this I read about Florian / Huerta??? I think that if BJ Penn beats Sean Sherk than a Florian/Penn fight must happen asap!

I think Kenny would finish Huerta in the first round. Huerta is an exciting fighter, but I think Kenny would have the edge both in stand up and on the ground.

[quote comment=”400528″][quote comment=”400513″]Huerta/Florian would be a war…and a legit fight to determine the #1 contender IMO.[/quote]

I think KenFlo has earned status of number 1 contender. He has finished 7 fights out of 9 in the UFC, with only 1 happening past the 2nd round. He is on a 4 fight win streak, and I think he deserves a shot over Roger Huerta.

I think a Roger Huerta vs. Gray Maynard match would be more fitting.

As well as a Nate Diaz vs. Tyson Griffin fight.[/quote]

I like Huerta vs Maynard, but I agree with a post from another thread that Diaz and Lauzon would be a great matchup.

Florian is clearly a class above Huerta. Roger was losing his last fight hands down until he was able to pull it out. I dont see Huerta to be as much a force as other people think. I think he is way too overhyped. I’d definately like to see him against Maynard, Griffin or even Diaz for that fact.

[quote comment=”400552″]What is this I read about Florian / Huerta??? I think that if BJ Penn beats Sean Sherk than a Florian/Penn fight must happen asap![/quote]Well, I think Penn walks thru both Florian and Huerta so it doesn’t really matter[quote comment=”400528″][quote comment=”400513″]Huerta/Florian would be a war…and a legit fight to determine the #1 contender IMO.[/quote]

I think KenFlo has earned status of number 1 contender. He has finished 7 fights out of 9 in the UFC, with only 1 happening past the 2nd round. He is on a 4 fight win streak, and I think he deserves a shot over Roger Huerta.

I think a Roger Huerta vs. Gray Maynard match would be more fitting.

As well as a Nate Diaz vs. Tyson Griffin fight.[/quote]Mishima, Robinson, Thomas, Lauzon…for Florian since his last loss…Huerta has won 6 in a row and finished 4 of them…it’s not like Florian has fought the upper echelon of competition either…and since he has challenged for the belt one time…I think he needs to get by Huerta first before he challenges again(this would also validate Huerta if he won)IMO.

Those pesky September graduations… WHAT?

I agree with everyone here. I don’t think Huerta’s anywhere close to being number 1 contender. What would happen if he pulled off a fluke win against Florian and ended up fighting for the title? That would just be bad.

kenny wil take it against huerta

Kenny Florian should get the winner of the Penn/Sherk fight. I think then the number one contender match should be Tyson Griffen/Roger Huerta

[quote comment=”400585″]Those pesky September graduations… WHAT?

I agree with everyone here. I don’t think Huerta’s anywhere close to being number 1 contender. What would happen if he pulled off a fluke win against Florian and ended up fighting for the title? That would just be bad.[/quote]Fluke win? It would mean he earned a shot at the title…that’s what would happen.

Kenny Florian and Roger Huerta arnt going to be able to compete with guys like BJ Penn and Sean Sherk. THey are B class fighters.

After Florian’s win last night, I’m left with some confusion…

Elbow strikes. I know the fight was momentarily halted due to some strikes supposedly hitting the back of the head, but no one mentioned downward striking with the point of the elbow…

I’ve heard some say it’s legal and some say it is not. I know anderson silva used those against travis lutter and Randy Couture made mention of it…

I’ve been watching mma for a long time but still somehow don’t have a clear answer. what’s the deal?

KenFlo takes cheap shots and gets away with it because White likes him and is grooming him for the title.How many elbow strikes did Joe take to the top and back of the head? Roger will win, and show KenFlo what a striker is all about.Anderson Silva is another one that takes this path,illegal strikes. Silva is a true BadAss and doesn’t need to do it.

The elbows were completely legal, except for the one that hit Lauzon in the uppper back of the head area, which is as much his fault as Florian’s due to him turning into it.

[quote comment=”400552″]What is this I read about Florian / Huerta??? I think that if BJ Penn beats Sean Sherk than a Florian/Penn fight must happen asap![/quote]
Word. Last night Florian earned his title shot. Beating Huerta wouldn’t prove anything else. I say let Flrian fight whoever wins Penn/Sherk. After Huerta graduates, he can fight maynard or Nate diaz for the next title shot. I really thought HUerta was gonna end up fighting Edgar but after he lost last night i don’t know.

Roger heurta is the man. he is way to strong for ken flo.
even though kenny is talented, i dont think he can muscle
roger around like he did joe last night.

I’ve heard that Huerta missed the deadline to enroll for college classes this spring, so I don’t even think him being in college is currently an issue.

Kenny calling out Roger Huerta after last night win puts Roger Huerta’s name on the map - which it does not belong. As of now, I see it like this - Florian is ready for a #1 contender fight, if not a title shot at BJ (if BJ beats Sherk) And Huerta is at best, one fight away from fighting in a #1 contender fight. Florian is above Huerta and he does not need a win over Roger before being considered the #1 contender.

But he still wants to fight Roger -this is just another reason to be a fan of Kenny. Not only does he want the title, but he wants to make sure that he is the only person to be considered to fight for the belt. He wants to erase all competition. In a day when the likes of Karo Parysian do anything possible to get a title shot without fighting the toughest competition, it is refreshing to see a fighter with the heart and will of Kenny Florian.

[quote comment=”400859″]Kenny calling out Roger Huerta after last night win puts Roger Huerta’s name on the map - which it does not belong. As of now, I see it like this - Florian is ready for a #1 contender fight, if not a title shot at BJ (if BJ beats Sherk) And Huerta is at best, one fight away from fighting in a #1 contender fight. Florian is above Huerta and he does not need a win over Roger before being considered the #1 contender.

But he still wants to fight Roger -this is just another reason to be a fan of Kenny. Not only does he want the title, but he wants to make sure that he is the only person to be considered to fight for the belt. He wants to erase all competition. In a day when the likes of Karo Parysian do anything possible to get a title shot without fighting the toughest competition, it is refreshing to see a fighter with the heart and will of Kenny Florian.[/quote]
True. You do have torespect Kenny for his fighting spirit. I really like Roger and even though there’s a chance Roger could catch him like he did Guida, I think Kenny is good at too many things for Roger. It would be an awesome fight that should make kenny as popular as Roger. Kenny’s only problem is he is not as charismatic as Roger.Kenny is not only getting rid of top contenders, he is finishing these guys.

Huerta isn’t ready for Florian. Needs to fight Tyson Griffin or Joe Stevenson first. FLorian should be up for the next tile shot. No one else is ready yet

Roger is game i like k flo but i would not count roger out. He has skill and heart showed that against guida

Before, I thought Huerta would beat Kenny easily, but not anymore. Huerta would get caught with something ie gulletine or punches. He’s too sloppy. Still not impressed with Ken’s standup or bjj but I admit he’s the BESSSST @ getting to the mount @155. Once he’s there, its GNP or RNC. done deal. Plus those mean elbows are like axes. If somehow hell freezes and sherk beats BJ, I reeeeaaaaalllyy don’t want to see another Florian Sherk II. Too bad Calvancante, Gomi, or Aoki aren’t in the UFC LW mix.

[quote comment=”400859″]Kenny calling out Roger Huerta after last night win puts Roger Huerta’s name on the map - which it does not belong. As of now, I see it like this - Florian is ready for a #1 contender fight, if not a title shot at BJ (if BJ beats Sherk) And Huerta is at best, one fight away from fighting in a #1 contender fight. Florian is above Huerta and he does not need a win over Roger before being considered the #1 contender.

But he still wants to fight Roger -this is just another reason to be a fan of Kenny. Not only does he want the title, but he wants to make sure that he is the only person to be considered to fight for the belt. He wants to erase all competition. In a day when the likes of Karo Parysian do anything possible to get a title shot without fighting the toughest competition, it is refreshing to see a fighter with the heart and will of Kenny Florian.[/quote]
I don’t see how Kenny could NOT be the #1 contender as his only loss in recent memory was to a roided up Sherk. Surely that has to count for something.

[quote comment=”400678″]Fluke win? It would mean he earned a shot at the title…that’s what would happen.[/quote]

I don’t think a fluke win over Kenflo earns him a title shot. It might get him one, but he certainly won’t have earned it.

[quote comment=”400859″]Kenny calling out Roger Huerta after last night win puts Roger Huerta’s name on the map - which it does not belong. As of now, I see it like this - Florian is ready for a #1 contender fight, if not a title shot at BJ (if BJ beats Sherk) And Huerta is at best, one fight away from fighting in a #1 contender fight. Florian is above Huerta and he does not need a win over Roger before being considered the #1 contender.

But he still wants to fight Roger -this is just another reason to be a fan of Kenny. Not only does he want the title, but he wants to make sure that he is the only person to be considered to fight for the belt. He wants to erase all competition. In a day when the likes of Karo Parysian do anything possible to get a title shot without fighting the toughest competition, it is refreshing to see a fighter with the heart and will of Kenny Florian.[/quote]

All very good points! That is exactly why he have to be a fan of Florians, he wants to test himself against all the fighters we think are at the top. He may deserve a title shot already, but what does he do, he calls out Huerta…Thats a true fighter for you. Instead of chumps like Karo who duck certain fighter (Fitch) in favor of fighting a lessor opponent (Alves) and getting KTFO and loosing all hopes of a title shot. At least if Florian does loose to Huerta (who is near the top of the division), it wont drop him too far down the rankings.

This fight may happen before Florian gets a title shot for a few reasons:

1) BJ Penn has been in constant training since about last October. He beat Stevenson, then jumped right into training for Sherk without taking a rest. I have a feeling BJ Penn
might want a little break after he beats sherk, so I dont expect him to fight in 4 months, he will probably fight again in November.

2) Huerta says he doesnt want to come back until September, but with the UFC holding an event in Minnesota (where he fights out of), that event may be too much for him to pass up on. Florian could also be ready to fight again by this event (UFC 87).

This all means that Huerta vs. Florian good be a possability for UFC 87 Minnesota and then the winner could then be ready to fight Penn in December.

What about Florian/Griffin in the meantime if Huerta isnt around.

[quote comment=”400715″]KenFlo takes cheap shots and gets away with it because White likes him and is grooming him for the title.How many elbow strikes did Joe take to the top and back of the head? Roger will win, and show KenFlo what a striker is all about.Anderson Silva is another one that takes this path,illegal strikes. Silva is a true BadAss and doesn’t need to do it.[/quote]
If you actually listened to Rogan during that fight you would kow that shots to the back of the head are intended to prevent a fighter from being hit in the unproteced portion of the spinal cord just below the base of the skull. Kill-Flo was nowhere near that area, ergo his strikes were legal, not cheap shots being whined about by a Kill-Flo hater.

Ken deserves the next title shot.
Roger is close but still behind Ken. i would like to see him fight T.Griffin or Gray.M.
3-0 Nate is climbing the ladder quickly.since he already beat the bully on TUF5 a match against T.Griffin would be interesting test for Nate. but if Ken & Roger fight the winner definitly deserves a title shot.

no one can brawl with mexican lightweights without getting a beat down

roger is ready for ken-flo, it’s just a matter if he (huerta) is good enough. niether can beat b.j. at this point or at any other point. i dont think b.j. is gonna stick around at lw long enough to find out anyway. after he beats sherk hes gonna call out gsp or a. silva and gsp is probably gonna be tied up w/ fitch. i really think he’s gonna challenge the spider and that fight could happen sometime this year.

[quote comment=”400556″]I think Kenny would finish Huerta in the first round. Huerta is an exciting fighter, but I think Kenny would have the edge both in stand up and on the ground.[/quote]
Lol what, in the first round??? Common give el Matador some credit. KenFlo is definitely NOT a better striker, 4 of 6 Roger’s fights were won cause of striking.

Huerta is a promising prospect, 5 wins in 2007 alone!

[quote comment=”401020″][quote comment=”400715″]KenFlo takes cheap shots and gets away with it because White likes him and is grooming him for the title.How many elbow strikes did Joe take to the top and back of the head? Roger will win, and show KenFlo what a striker is all about.Anderson Silva is another one that takes this path,illegal strikes. Silva is a true BadAss and doesn’t need to do it.[/quote]
If you actually listened to Rogan during that fight you would kow that shots to the back of the head are intended to prevent a fighter from being hit in the unproteced portion of the spinal cord just below the base of the skull. Kill-Flo was nowhere near that area, ergo his strikes were legal, not cheap shots being whined about by a Kill-Flo hater.[/quote]

PW: I actually thought that comment made by rogan was complete BS. UFC rules strictly state, NO STRIKING TO THE BACK OF THE HEAD!!!! Brock Lesnar had a point deducted for a lot less then what Florian was doing! How can that be justified? he busted the back of Joe’s head open which should have warranted a point deduction as well as Lauzon getting up to 5 minutes to regain his composure.

The UFC rules allow for fighter to get in certain position to avoid strikes. Joe was in that position and he should have not been allowed to get hit. Another position that you are protected from strikes is when you are on your knees covering up and facing your opponent. the only really effective way of striking an opponent in that position would be knees to the head, but since that is not allowed in the UFC, that is pretty much a safe position for a fighter to defend himself.

Lauzon was in one of those “safe positions” and should not have been allowed to have been blasted in the back of the head with viscious elbows like 10 times. Those strikes happened very early into the fight and getting hit back there can really mes sup your equilibrium. I dont want to make excuses for Joe because i dont really care, I like both him and Kenny but maybe the fight would have gone different if it wasn’t for those strikes. My point is we just dont know, if the ref would have given Joe time to recoup, I wouldnt be wondering,…. What if? this morning.

I think the referees did a decent job last night. Especially when you take into consideration that a lot of those Ref’s were new. I did recognize a few of them. For instance who was that Marc Anthony looking taco bell dog of a referee?

Huerta VS. Florian would be a GREAT WAR! Florian has world class BJJ,
great Muay Thai, etc. Huerta has a ton of Heart, a tough chin, great
wrestling,etc. Hopefully when Huerta returns in Sept of this year they
will fight each other!

[quote comment=”400978″][quote comment=”400859″]
1) BJ Penn has been in constant training since about last October. He beat Stevenson, then jumped right into training for Sherk without taking a rest. I have a feeling BJ Penn
might want a little break after he beats sherk, so I dont expect him to fight in 4 months, he will probably fight again in November.

I really hope BJ is pissed that Kenny beat down his boy Lauzon and calls him out after he beats Sherk. I wonder what BJ has to say about those elbows to the back of the head. I really don’t think Kenny stands a chance agaisn’t BJ so I guess the Huerta fight would be more interesting. Either way Kenny “I finish fights” Florian is fun to watch.

I agree NC-17 huerta vs maynard and diaz vs griffin, and florian vs the winner of penn and sherk, and i believe that will be penn

[quote comment=”401349″]I agree NC-17 huerta vs maynard and diaz vs griffin, and florian vs the winner of penn and sherk, and i believe that will be penn[/quote]
maynard/diaz, lauzon/griffin. florian/huerta winner to fight sherk for vacant lw title.

R U guys kidding me Huerta is 22-1-1, won all 5 fights he had in 2007 and is 6-0 since joining the UFC, it doesnt matter how u start a fight but its how u finish it……..Florian had his chance and lost against sherk…yeah he’s on a 4 fight win streak soooo what look at Huerta…..I really want this fight too happen now……because ur all crazy….and want too see Kenny get his ars kicked

[quote comment=”400552″]What is this I read about Florian / Huerta??? I think that if BJ Penn beats Sean Sherk than a Florian/Penn fight must happen asap![/quote]
BJ penn would woop that *ss!!!!

[quote comment=”401390″][quote comment=”401349″]I agree NC-17 huerta vs maynard and diaz vs griffin, and florian vs the winner of penn and sherk, and i believe that will be penn[/quote]
maynard/diaz, lauzon/griffin. florian/huerta winner to fight sherk for vacant lw title.[/quote]
What are you talking about ??? Vacant title??? Sherk wont even b in the picture after Penn “shows the world” Sherk needs to hit the back of the line after May 24th. Period. I dont wanna see him sit on top of a guy for hella rounds ever again, and thats all he’ll do against any of the top ten fighters, not beat them, just dry hump them!!!

[quote comment=”401192″][quote comment=”400978″][quote comment=”400859″]
1) BJ Penn has been in constant training since about last October. He beat Stevenson, then jumped right into training for Sherk without taking a rest. I have a feeling BJ Penn
might want a little break after he beats sherk, so I dont expect him to fight in 4 months, he will probably fight again in November.

I really hope BJ is pissed that Kenny beat down his boy Lauzon and calls him out after he beats Sherk. I wonder what BJ has to say about those elbows to the back of the head. I really don’t think Kenny stands a chance agaisn’t BJ so I guess the Huerta fight would be more interesting. Either way Kenny “I finish fights” Florian is fun to watch.[/quote]
Agree, except i think BJ wants GSP ASAP so he’ll get these 3 or 4 title defenses out of the way as fast as he can to make sure GSP doesnt blow it again and lose his belt (if he beats Serra)Penn/Sherk, Penn/Florian, Penn/Huerta Penn/Moves on to Welter and to get his belt back!

[quote comment=”401507″][quote comment=”401192″][quote comment=”400978″][quote comment=”400859″]
1) BJ Penn has been in constant training since about last October. He beat Stevenson, then jumped right into training for Sherk without taking a rest. I have a feeling BJ Penn
might want a little break after he beats sherk, so I dont expect him to fight in 4 months, he will probably fight again in November.

I really hope BJ is pissed that Kenny beat down his boy Lauzon and calls him out after he beats Sherk. I wonder what BJ has to say about those elbows to the back of the head. I really don’t think Kenny stands a chance agaisn’t BJ so I guess the Huerta fight would be more interesting. Either way Kenny “I finish fights” Florian is fun to watch.[/quote]
Agree, except i think BJ wants GSP ASAP so he’ll get these 3 or 4 title defenses out of the way as fast as he can to make sure GSP doesnt blow it again and lose his belt (if he beats Serra)Penn/Sherk, Penn/Florian, Penn/Huerta Penn/Moves on to Welter and to get his belt back![/quote]

The first part of that I was quoting John. The second part is mine. I know BJ wants GSP ASAP. In an interview, with I think Mayhem , he was asked what he wanted after the Sherk fight and BJ got down on his knees and said “Dana give me GSP”. I have also heard Dana say he wants BJ to stay at 155 and clean up then think about moving up. How sweet would that be if GSP and BJ cleaned up their divisions and fought for the 170 title next year!

[quote comment=”401530″][quote comment=”401507″][quote comment=”401192″][quote comment=”400978″][quote comment=”400859″]
1) BJ Penn has been in constant training since about last October. He beat Stevenson, then jumped right into training for Sherk without taking a rest. I have a feeling BJ Penn
might want a little break after he beats sherk, so I dont expect him to fight in 4 months, he will probably fight again in November.

I really hope BJ is pissed that Kenny beat down his boy Lauzon and calls him out after he beats Sherk. I wonder what BJ has to say about those elbows to the back of the head. I really don’t think Kenny stands a chance agaisn’t BJ so I guess the Huerta fight would be more interesting. Either way Kenny “I finish fights” Florian is fun to watch.[/quote]
Agree, except i think BJ wants GSP ASAP so he’ll get these 3 or 4 title defenses out of the way as fast as he can to make sure GSP doesnt blow it again and lose his belt (if he beats Serra)Penn/Sherk, Penn/Florian, Penn/Huerta Penn/Moves on to Welter and to get his belt back![/quote]

The first part of that I was quoting John. The second part is mine. I know BJ wants GSP ASAP. In an interview, with I think Mayhem , he was asked what he wanted after the Sherk fight and BJ got down on his knees and said “Dana give me GSP”. I have also heard Dana say he wants BJ to stay at 155 and clean up then think about moving up. How sweet would that be if GSP and BJ cleaned up their divisions and fought for the 170 title next year![/quote]

That is a DREAM scenario but like you said, they would both have to clean out there divisions first and that means GSP needs at least 3 title defenses. Keep in mind he has yet to defend a title successfully.

[quote comment=”401603″][quote comment=”401530″][quote comment=”401507″][quote comment=”401192″][quote comment=”400978″][quote comment=”400859″]
1) BJ Penn has been in constant training since about last October. He beat Stevenson, then jumped right into training for Sherk without taking a rest. I have a feeling BJ Penn
might want a little break after he beats sherk, so I dont expect him to fight in 4 months, he will probably fight again in November.

I really hope BJ is pissed that Kenny beat down his boy Lauzon and calls him out after he beats Sherk. I wonder what BJ has to say about those elbows to the back of the head. I really don’t think Kenny stands a chance agaisn’t BJ so I guess the Huerta fight would be more interesting. Either way Kenny “I finish fights” Florian is fun to watch.[/quote]
Agree, except i think BJ wants GSP ASAP so he’ll get these 3 or 4 title defenses out of the way as fast as he can to make sure GSP doesnt blow it again and lose his belt (if he beats Serra)Penn/Sherk, Penn/Florian, Penn/Huerta Penn/Moves on to Welter and to get his belt back![/quote]

The first part of that I was quoting John. The second part is mine. I know BJ wants GSP ASAP. In an interview, with I think Mayhem , he was asked what he wanted after the Sherk fight and BJ got down on his knees and said “Dana give me GSP”. I have also heard Dana say he wants BJ to stay at 155 and clean up then think about moving up. How sweet would that be if GSP and BJ cleaned up their divisions and fought for the 170 title next year![/quote]

That is a DREAM scenario but like you said, they would both have to clean out there divisions first and that means GSP needs at least 3 title defenses. Keep in mind he has yet to defend a title successfully.[/quote]

Neither has BJ. But it is fun to think about. I think BJ WILL clean up 155. It will be a little more difficult for GSP. The fight between BJ and GSP makes no sense unless they both have belts.

[quote comment=”400798″]The elbows were completely legal, except for the one that hit Lauzon in the uppper back of the head area, which is as much his fault as Florian’s due to him turning into it.[/quote]

exactamundo if anyone has liddell rampage 2 watch the ko in slow mo. after chuck gets knocked on his ass page hits him with a couple of hammerfists and then a downward elbow clips the top of his head. that elbow put chucky nighty night.

Huerta will win by a landslide

[quote comment=”402058″]Huerta will win by a landslide[/quote]
A landslide??? He couldnt put an out of shape Lenord Garcia away, barely beat Guida . . . But go Tito right LoL, you know your sh*t!!! Tito Tito Tito!!! LoL Tito sucks!!! As a fighter and as a person, WAR TITO! LOL

[quote comment=”400556″]I think Kenny would finish Huerta in the first round. Huerta is an exciting fighter, but I think Kenny would have the edge both in stand up and on the ground.[/quote]

Sooo…You think that Joe is a better fighter than Huerta? IMO, if they fight Huerta would GnP Florian’s face off.

[quote comment=”402123″][quote comment=”400556″]I think Kenny would finish Huerta in the first round. Huerta is an exciting fighter, but I think Kenny would have the edge both in stand up and on the ground.[/quote]

Sooo…You think that Joe is a better fighter than Huerta? IMO, if they fight Huerta would GnP Florian’s face off.[/quote]

I disagree. It would look like Guida-Huerta, with one big difference: Kenny is a lot better at finishing fights. If that was Kenny who had Huerta rocked, Roger would’ve took a nap.

[quote comment=”402103″][quote comment=”402058″]Huerta will win by a landslide[/quote]
A landslide??? He couldnt put an out of shape Lenord Garcia away, barely beat Guida . . . But go Tito right LoL, you know your sh*t!!! Tito Tito Tito!!! LoL Tito sucks!!! As a fighter and as a person, WAR TITO! LOL[/quote]

Has Kenny beaten anyone as good as Guida?? Come on…

LMAO!!jhlghlg o shiz my stomach

joe daddy would murder florian & huerta

i think huerta will maul ken flo

Heurta Florian would be a great fight. Everyone hates on Huerta but he’s undefeated in the UFC and fights with a lot of heart and even though Florian may be a bit more technical than him there is no way you could count Heurta out of it. Although anyone at 155 is going to get destroyed by BJ if he stays in the shape he was for the last two fights so it doesn’t really matter who gets the next title shot after BJ sends Sherk out of the UFC.

i like kenflo a lot

huerta florian would be a great fight

id give huerta a huge adavantage in the striking and also the wrestling aspect

would be a very tough fight for kenflo
his hands seriously lack power
and whilst hes very good on the ground if huerta doesnt take him down i cant see how it will ever hit the floor as huertas takedown defence is solid

huerta will stand and bang with him until he knocks him out

only mistake huerta could make is to get involved on the floor

if huerta knocks him down he should take a few shots then stand back and tell the ref to get him up

nate diaz reminds me a lot of kenflo
poor hands (at this level of competition)
weak (at this level of competition)
big heart
can take a beating and recover
awesome on the floor with grappling and submission

kenflos big plus point is the lethal elbows from his back

[quote post=”5641″]But he still wants to fight Roger -this is just another reason to be a fan of Kenny. Not only does he want the title, but he wants to make sure that he is the only person to be considered to fight for the belt. He wants to erase all competition. In a day when the likes of Karo Parysian do anything possible to get a title shot without fighting the toughest competition, it is refreshing to see a fighter with the heart and will of Kenny Florian. [/quote]
I dunno VM, you could look at it like that, or that FLorian knows that milking this winning streak is teh best for his record adn financial situation, adn fighting for the title agaisnt Sean or Penn will ruin that, putting him back down the latter, and erased as a contendar after that loss.

The only reason Huerta’s name is on the map is because of Florian, this guy has beatin Guida, that’s it!! After Guida gave him a beating the whole time, Huerta has got alot of work to do before being at that level, he should thank Florian for putting any spot-light on him at all.

[quote comment=”402123″][quote comment=”400556″]I think Kenny would finish Huerta in the first round. Huerta is an exciting fighter, but I think Kenny would have the edge both in stand up and on the ground.[/quote]

Sooo…You think that Joe is a better fighter than Huerta? IMO, if they fight Huerta would GnP Florian’s face off.[/quote]
If Lauzon coulnt GnP Florian, Huerta sure as He11 aint gonna do it.

[quote comment=”402709″][quote comment=”402123″][quote comment=”400556″]I think Kenny would finish Huerta in the first round. Huerta is an exciting fighter, but I think Kenny would have the edge both in stand up and on the ground.[/quote]

Sooo…You think that Joe is a better fighter than Huerta? IMO, if they fight Huerta would GnP Florian’s face off.[/quote]
If Lauzon coulnt GnP Florian, Huerta sure as He11 aint gonna do it.[/quote]
LoL, and does it all really matter anyway, who wants to be #1 contender when Penn has the belt! When Sherk had it all Kenny would do is talk talk talk, “I finish blah blah blah” and pointing at his gut like he deserves a belt around it, now that BJ’s atop the ranks hes calling out Huerta hoping sherks gonna beat BJ and then he’ll start talking about a belt again instead of calling out a guy that cant fight til september.

And Huerta did beat Guida, Kenflo has nt beat anyone of that caliber but lets be honest did Huerta really beat Guida??? Barely, and thats like saying Hughes beat down Penn in there 2nd fight (winning 20 seconds of a fight after getting picked apart for 10 minutes isnt really what id call beating someone, its what id call right place right time, thats it.) And for that other dude from earlier, id consider Lauzon Guida caliber egardless of how that fight went last night.

[quote comment=”402763″][quote comment=”402709″][quote comment=”402123″][quote comment=”400556″]I think Kenny would finish Huerta in the first round. Huerta is an exciting fighter, but I think Kenny would have the edge both in stand up and on the ground.[/quote]

Sooo…You think that Joe is a better fighter than Huerta? IMO, if they fight Huerta would GnP Florian’s face off.[/quote]
If Lauzon coulnt GnP Florian, Huerta sure as He11 aint gonna do it.[/quote]
LoL, and does it all really matter anyway, who wants to be #1 contender when Penn has the belt! When Sherk had it all Kenny would do is talk talk talk, “I finish blah blah blah” and pointing at his gut like he deserves a belt around it, now that BJ’s atop the ranks hes calling out Huerta hoping sherks gonna beat BJ and then he’ll start talking about a belt again instead of calling out a guy that cant fight til september.

And Huerta did beat Guida, Kenflo has nt beat anyone of that caliber but lets be honest did Huerta really beat Guida??? Barely, and thats like saying Hughes beat down Penn in there 2nd fight (winning 20 seconds of a fight after getting picked apart for 10 minutes isnt really what id call beating someone, its what id call right place right time, thats it.) And for that other dude from earlier, id consider Lauzon Guida caliber egardless of how that fight went last night.[/quote]
I like your assesment Adam G. Agree entirely.

[quote comment=”402815″][quote comment=”402763″][quote comment=”402709″][quote comment=”402123″][quote comment=”400556″]I think Kenny would finish Huerta in the first round. Huerta is an exciting fighter, but I think Kenny would have the edge both in stand up and on the ground.[/quote]

Sooo…You think that Joe is a better fighter than Huerta? IMO, if they fight Huerta would GnP Florian’s face off.[/quote]
If Lauzon coulnt GnP Florian, Huerta sure as He11 aint gonna do it.[/quote]
LoL, and does it all really matter anyway, who wants to be #1 contender when Penn has the belt! When Sherk had it all Kenny would do is talk talk talk, “I finish blah blah blah” and pointing at his gut like he deserves a belt around it, now that BJ’s atop the ranks hes calling out Huerta hoping sherks gonna beat BJ and then he’ll start talking about a belt again instead of calling out a guy that cant fight til september.

And Huerta did beat Guida, Kenflo has nt beat anyone of that caliber but lets be honest did Huerta really beat Guida??? Barely, and thats like saying Hughes beat down Penn in there 2nd fight (winning 20 seconds of a fight after getting picked apart for 10 minutes isnt really what id call beating someone, its what id call right place right time, thats it.) And for that other dude from earlier, id consider Lauzon Guida caliber egardless of how that fight went last night.[/quote]
I like your assesment Adam G. Agree entirely.[/quote]
I have to completely disagree. Florian has stated from the start that his goal is to clean out the division so that it’s obvious he’s the #1 contender, THEN go after the belt.

I wanted to address something that I have seen a lot on this post at that is the hating on both Huerta and Florian for not fighting top 10 competion. Here is a news flash for all of you who have made those comments, outside of the big 3 (Penn, Sherk & Stevenson who have all been involved in a title mess resembling a Shakespearian play) the UFC (according to most if not all top 10 polls) has no one outside of those 3 in the top 10 LWs. So its kinda hard to bash either of them for not facing top compeition when the UFC does not have it!

I personally think a Huerta vs Florian would be a perfect number one contenders match. I also think (and agree with Violent Mike) that Florian is a hard guy not to like and his position of I want to clear out the entire division before I get a title shot so that there is 0 debate over whether or not I should get the shot is an admirable one to take. Especially as he said when we see the bs that Karo pulled in regards to that. Karo’s exuse is well I was injured and never got my shot, Florian could easily say well my opponent was juiced out of his mind so I should get another shot but instead he takes the high road.

In the end, and I dont know who said it first, Kenny “I Finish Fights” Florian is an entertaining guy to watch and ever since losing to Sherk and starting to train with Dellegrate he has become a whole new fighter. I love any fighter who has the desire and heart to finish out every fight they can. Anyways that is my two cents and I hope the UFC either makes the Huerta vs Florian fight happen or gives Florian a title shot and the Huerta the next one since he is tied up with school.

As long as Kenny keeps practicing his illegal strikes, he should do fine. Otherwise, I’ll take Huerta.

[quote comment=”400943″]Before, I thought Huerta would beat Kenny easily, but not anymore. Huerta would get caught with something ie gulletine or punches. He’s too sloppy. [/quote]

He’s is not sloppy, but he can be too aggresive. He is willing to attack his way even if it makes him vulnerable for a moment. If it means getting taken down, so be it. He’ll fight from the bottom, too. I think against the top level that will cost him. Either he’ll get caught trying to transistion or lose decisions based solely on positioning.

I see alot of similarity between Nate Diaz and Huerta in fighting style. No matter where it goes, they are comfortable. They might look like they are in trouble for being on the bottom but are dangerous, active from the bottom and always looking for the finish. I think that is why they are two of the most exciting fighters at LW to watch.

Florian, however, deserves his title shot now. Whoever wins in May, it will be entertaining. Seeing how Kenny’s blackbelt matchs up with Penn and seeing the master avenge his student or seeing how much Florian has improved in a rematch with Sherk.

Anyone have/know a link that shows Kenny’s fight with Sherk??

[quote comment=”403458″]Anyone have/know a link that shows Kenny’s fight with Sherk??[/quote]

bud, trust me, you don’t want to see it. it was crap. lol to sum it up, sherk got takedowns in each of the 5 rounds and layed on ken FOR THE WHOLE DAMN FIGHT and squeezed the life out of him. ken cut sherks head with elbows (same as he gave lauzon) but it was nowhere near enough. sherk might as well busted out the handcuffs, arrested little ken, and stuffed him in the back of the paddywagon cuz thats what it reminded me of. the 1 thing that pissed me off the most is that sherk was NOT going for the finish!!! good luck NOT finding it.

[quote comment=”402705″]The only reason Huerta’s name is on the map is because of Florian, this guy has beatin Guida, that’s it!! After Guida gave him a beating the whole time, Huerta has got alot of work to do before being at that level, he should thank Florian for putting any spot-light on him at all.[/quote]

Guida gave him a beating the whole time? Except while it was standing where he was getting picked apart, abandoned it and went for takedowns. (Clay’s undercard match against Schiavo is on Dailymotion BTW for those who have yet to see it.)

Adam G. asked did Huerta really beat Guida and said barely. Are you serious? Barely means he won a split decision. He finished him by choke. Pretty definitive in my book.

I don’t see how Florian put his name on the map. If you mean by saying he would want to fight him, that is Kenny wanting to improve his own ranking. That said, I think Kenny is already in line for the title shot next. Huerta could be close behind but taking that much time off by personal choice should put him back a couple slots and feel he’ll need to fight (and win obviously) a couple times before a title shot.

[quote comment=”403427″][quote comment=”400943″]Before, I thought Huerta would beat Kenny easily, but not anymore. Huerta would get caught with something ie gulletine or punches. He’s too sloppy. [/quote]

He’s is not sloppy, but he can be too aggresive. He is willing to attack his way even if it makes him vulnerable for a moment. If it means getting taken down, so be it. He’ll fight from the bottom, too. I think against the top level that will cost him. Either he’ll get caught trying to transistion or lose decisions based solely on positioning.

I see alot of similarity between Nate Diaz and Huerta in fighting style. No matter where it goes, they are comfortable. They might look like they are in trouble for being on the bottom but are dangerous, active from the bottom and always looking for the finish. I think that is why they are two of the most exciting fighters at LW to watch.

Florian, however, deserves his title shot now. Whoever wins in May, it will be entertaining.

Seeing how Kenny’s blackbelt matchs up with Penn and seeing the master avenge his student or seeing how much Florian has improved in a rematch with Sherk.[/quote]

k maybe i chose the wrong word: sloppy. you said “they might look like they are in trouble” and I get the same impression a lot when they fight which is why i think florian would capitalize on that. but im not a florian fan and i want to see him get put in his place. joe daddy destroyed “nobody can stand with me” Melvin Gillard and grinded out Pellengrino. He’d be the perfect candidate knock off florian.

[quote comment=”400672″]Kenny Florian should get the winner of the Penn/Sherk fight. I think then the number one contender match should be Tyson Griffen/Roger Huerta[/quote]

I totally agree. with edger out of contention tyson is definately next in line.

[quote comment=”403195″][quote comment=”402815″][quote comment=”402763″][quote comment=”402709″][quote comment=”402123″][quote comment=”400556″]I think Kenny would finish Huerta in the first round. Huerta is an exciting fighter, but I think Kenny would have the edge both in stand up and on the ground.[/quote]

Sooo…You think that Joe is a better fighter than Huerta? IMO, if they fight Huerta would GnP Florian’s face off.[/quote]
If Lauzon coulnt GnP Florian, Huerta sure as He11 aint gonna do it.[/quote]
LoL, and does it all really matter anyway, who wants to be #1 contender when Penn has the belt! When Sherk had it all Kenny would do is talk talk talk, “I finish blah blah blah” and pointing at his gut like he deserves a belt around it, now that BJ’s atop the ranks hes calling out Huerta hoping sherks gonna beat BJ and then he’ll start talking about a belt again instead of calling out a guy that cant fight til september.

And Huerta did beat Guida, Kenflo has nt beat anyone of that caliber but lets be honest did Huerta really beat Guida??? Barely, and thats like saying Hughes beat down Penn in there 2nd fight (winning 20 seconds of a fight after getting picked apart for 10 minutes isnt really what id call beating someone, its what id call right place right time, thats it.) And for that other dude from earlier, id consider Lauzon Guida caliber egardless of how that fight went last night.[/quote]
I like your assesment Adam G. Agree entirely.[/quote]
I have to completely disagree. Florian has stated from the start that his goal is to clean out the division so that it’s obvious he’s the #1 contender, THEN go after the belt.[/quote]
Dude, when Florian talks about finishing fights, hes talking about Sherk (who doesnt) to me thats making a refference to the (at that time) champ and to me thats talking about the belt, no??? Hes i finish unlike Sherk therefor make me champ, id be a more exciting champ. NOW he wants to “clean out the division” (LoL i guess) fighting Huerta aint cleaning out the division buddy. But NOW he wants to that BJ has the belt. Why doesnt he say something to Penn like he was about Sherk just months ago after the Din Thomas fight??? Penn would woop that *ss thats why. BET florian doesnt make a refference to the belt again til BJ leaves the division, BET! LoL, clean out the division, so hes gonna fight Manar, Guida, Huerta, Stevenson, SHerk again, Griffin, Edgar and BJ huh LoL, you call it cleaning house, i call it stalling to fight a chump for the belt. Period.

Anomaly = Educated. Its all politics in there guys, not just fighting. Words mean everything as well and i dont here anyone talking about the belt anymore in this division (kinda like the middle weights LoL) Lets all fight eachother til Penn leaves then were bad *ss’s again and should be champ. hehehe, step in there with Penn and find out what fightings all about, to the ground, walk ‘em out, sub ‘em, its that simple and i dont see any LTWT able to deal with it or even wanting to. Hell sherk is only fighting BJ cause he has to; money, marketable, decent matchup on paper.

[quote comment=”403889″][quote comment=”403195″][quote comment=”402815″][quote comment=”402763″][quote comment=”402709″][quote comment=”402123″][quote comment=”400556″]I think Kenny would finish Huerta in the first round. Huerta is an exciting fighter, but I think Kenny would have the edge both in stand up and on the ground.[/quote]

Sooo…You think that Joe is a better fighter than Huerta? IMO, if they fight Huerta would GnP Florian’s face off.[/quote]
If Lauzon coulnt GnP Florian, Huerta sure as He11 aint gonna do it.[/quote]
LoL, and does it all really matter anyway, who wants to be #1 contender when Penn has the belt! When Sherk had it all Kenny would do is talk talk talk, “I finish blah blah blah” and pointing at his gut like he deserves a belt around it, now that BJ’s atop the ranks hes calling out Huerta hoping sherks gonna beat BJ and then he’ll start talking about a belt again instead of calling out a guy that cant fight til september.

And Huerta did beat Guida, Kenflo has nt beat anyone of that caliber but lets be honest did Huerta really beat Guida??? Barely, and thats like saying Hughes beat down Penn in there 2nd fight (winning 20 seconds of a fight after getting picked apart for 10 minutes isnt really what id call beating someone, its what id call right place right time, thats it.) And for that other dude from earlier, id consider Lauzon Guida caliber egardless of how that fight went last night.[/quote]
I like your assesment Adam G. Agree entirely.[/quote]
I have to completely disagree. Florian has stated from the start that his goal is to clean out the division so that it’s obvious he’s the #1 contender, THEN go after the belt.[/quote]
Dude, when Florian talks about finishing fights, hes talking about Sherk (who doesnt) to me thats making a refference to the (at that time) champ and to me thats talking about the belt, no??? Hes i finish unlike Sherk therefor make me champ, id be a more exciting champ. NOW he wants to “clean out the division” (LoL i guess) fighting Huerta aint cleaning out the division buddy. But NOW he wants to that BJ has the belt. Why doesnt he say something to Penn like he was about Sherk just months ago after the Din Thomas fight??? Penn would woop that *ss thats why. BET florian doesnt make a refference to the belt again til BJ leaves the division, BET! LoL, clean out the division, so hes gonna fight Manar, Guida, Huerta, Stevenson, SHerk again, Griffin, Edgar and BJ huh LoL, you call it cleaning house, i call it stalling to fight a chump for the belt. Period.[/quote]
I’m not a Penn or Florian nuthugger. But the reference to cleaning out the division was made by Florian right after his loss to Sherk. I think Penn would take him, sure. But Florian has my respect as a fighter and has never backed down from fighting anyone.

Florian will never be #1 in the LW division as long as Sherk and Penn are in it. He was beat down for 25 minutes by Sherk and I gurantee Penn would finish Florian within 2 rounds. Florian/Huerta would make a great fight. Huerta has great standup, heart and wrestling. Florian has muay thai and bjj. I think Huerta would pull out the win though. It also pisses me off that Florian is always trying to cut someone open to stop the fight. Purposely cutting someone to win is the pussiest way.

[quote comment=”402139″][quote comment=”402103″][quote comment=”402058″]Huerta will win by a landslide[/quote]
A landslide??? He couldnt put an out of shape Lenord Garcia away, barely beat Guida . . . But go Tito right LoL, you know your sh*t!!! Tito Tito Tito!!! LoL Tito sucks!!! As a fighter and as a person, WAR TITO! LOL[/quote]

Has Kenny beaten anyone as good as Guida?? Come on…[/quote]
I agree dom florian has beat nobody yet,but he wants to bring up tito…im a tito fan but he has nothing to do with this blog.

[quote comment=”400585″]Those pesky September graduations… WHAT?

I agree with everyone here. I don’t think Huerta’s anywhere close to being number 1 contender. What would happen if he pulled off a fluke win against Florian and ended up fighting for the title? That would just be bad.[/quote]
I totally agree. Huerta was exposed in the Guida fight.(IMO) He did prove that he had tremendous heart with the comeback, but I don’t see him standing a chance against BJ just yet. He is still very young, and the sky is the limit for his future though. I see Roger fighting the headliner for the first UFC South of the border and being a big draw. But I don’t see him Beating Florian, or winning the title anytime soon. For his sake his “time off” better still include training, and improving his game. Guida took him down with ease, and that means Florian or BJ would as well, and I think that they would dissmantle him on the ground. (once again IMO).
As far as Kenny’s illigal elbow’s I hate to qoute Tito, but it aint cheating if you don’t get caught, and he clearly got away with it. I do find it interesting that Kenny is not calling out BJ like he did with Sherk as stated above.lol. I imagine this thread is dead by now…anyway.

Huerta will beat florian in second round bye tap out.
than you will see how huerta will submit a bjj fighter and go on to be the champ early in 2009

LOL^

florian hasnt beaten anyone yet? he choked out din thomas who is definately a good fighter. and dont forgot joe jauzon knocked out jens pulver. lauzon is a great fighter too.