“It’s not my call to say if Jon Fitch deserves a title shot or not. He beat (Chris) Wilson, who was his last opponent. Based on that performance, if St. Pierre beats (Matt) Serra, I don’t think he’s going to be able to touch St. Pierre. St. Pierre will just maul him, easy. As far as deserving the title, I would say give him a title shot. He has beaten everybody. He is undefeated in the UFC, but honestly, I thought Diego (Sanchez) kinda beat him.”
– “The Heat” tells Brawl Sports that he feels Jon Fitch will be outclassed if he ever fights Georges St. Pierre based on his most recent winning performance against Chris Wilson at UFC 82: “Pride of a Champion” last month. In addition, playing a little reverse psychology, Parisyan indicates that Fitch deserves a title shot even though he has lobbied for his chance ever since pulling out of a scheduled title fight against then-champion Matt Hughes in 2005. The only problem is St. Pierre has to beat Matt Serra at UFC 83 later this month to gain the 170-pound strap, making a possible match up between Fitch and St. Pierre very questionable. Not to mention Karo could get the nod over Fitch with a thrilling performance against Thiago Alves on national television later this evening at UFC Fight Night 13.
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wtf is wrong with this clown… talking badly about a guy he refuses to face
i didnt used to mind him as a fighter but after his appearance on TUF he showed the world what a n arrogant jackass he really is
karo shouldnt get the nod for a title shot
170lb division is stacked i cant see them taking a guy of a UFN and giving him an immediate title shot UFN are “B class” shows
fitch has an unbelievable win streak
his last performance wasnt great but he still managed to pick up the W in a tough fight
i honestly hope karo gets a shot at GSP (not that he deserves one) so that GSP can “maul” him and show him who GSP is
Most def. Fitch deserves a title shot…..but I dont understand how everybody is looking past Serra….
Brilliant strategy to get into title contention. Start calling those higher-ranked ones out. My hat is off.
“The only problem is St. Pierre has to beat Matt Serra at UFC 83 later this month to gain the 170-pound strap, making a possible match up between Fitch and St. Pierre very questionable”
Mania, does that mean you think Serra takes this one?
Gotta agree 100% with Karo. I would like to see GSP destroy Fitch, just to shut up all the fitch nut huggers who say he deserves his shot. If his 6-0 record is your only arguement, then why isnt Roger Huerta fighting for the title. Because, the opponents they beat.
Finally someone who knows his mma.
GSP is my favorite fighter and I agree with Karo that GSP will mull Jon.
Karo is a guy that tells it how it is, doesn’t matter if you like it or not. Hey I respect him alot and I think he deserves a title shot. Me I think he deserves more than Jon but I guess that issue is resolved he will probably get it after Jon.
Either way GSP will mull any fighter in 170 division. This is GSP division. Respect to Karo and Jon in my opinion these 3 are the Gold, silver and bronze metalist in this division.
I like to see Karo and Jon one day for I guess the silver metal.
i think jon fitch did loose to diego to i also think fitch dosent stand a chance against gorgeie bio and karo should be next in line for the title shot.
Serra will tap out St. Pierre then EVERYBODY is going to forget about GSP and call out “the TERROR”. please believe it!
LOL, what was that about Serra taping out GSP, lmfao did Serra even get a punch in?!?!?!? lol it proves to show that you know nothign about MMA, and that the 1st fight Serra was lucky, but shit like that happends, so props to Serra 4 winning, but he will not want to fight GSP EVER again, especially in his home town/state of NY lol, tap out…… ur funny!!!!!
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Mania, does that mean you think Serra takes this one?[/quote]
Don’t know about Mania, but I don’t think Serra wins this time. It’s just inaccurate to regard GSP as the current champ and who he’ll be defending against. And heck, Serra has proven he can beat GSP so I’ll give him at least a chance to win again.
GSP is way too athletic for Fitch’s lay-n-pray dry humping crap to work on. And yes, GSP beating Serra is likely but hardly a sure thing.
the only thing i agree with in that statement is that diego won the match
karo ducked and dodged the match with fitch to get alves, fitch will fight anyone karo picks his fights
Parisyan is a joke. He ducks Fitch than goes on to say this. Didn’t GSP already “maul” Karo?
[quote comment=”398344″]
karo shouldnt get the nod for a title shot
170lb division is stacked i cant see them taking a guy of a UFN and giving him an immediate title shot UFN are “B class” shows
[/quote]
ummm… Anderson Silva?
Yes, GSP would maul Fitch. GSP is better than Fitch in every aspect of the game. GSP would also likely maul Karo again, bu that fight may be more exciting just based on Karo’s style.
And as for GSP-Serra, that will be a good matchup, but GSP will pound out Serra on the ground. Serra has one submission in his UFC career, against a can. GSP owns him on the ground.
What don’t you people understand about the Fitch / Diego fight??? Did anyone notice Diego’s beat up face after the fight compared to Fitch who looked barely touched? Who had the most take downs? Who landed the most punches and elbows? Yes Diego had the most un-effective submission attempts but how in the hell can you say he won that when it should have been a unanimous decision. Maybe go rent the event DVD and think again?
Karo has no class talking about how Jon will get mulled when that fag is afraid to even get in the ring with Jon. Karo “the Fitch-ducker” Parisyan will get his ass kicked tonight probably via knockout by Alves so he won’t have anything to worry about regarding a future title shot. All I can say is this clown is pathetic and needs to think before he opens his stupid mouth. Too bad he is afraid to fight Fitch otherwise Fitch would shut it for him.
I gotta go with Karo.He is 100% right.Usually he runs his mouth,but that one is true.
I need some help guys….i want to take my peice of shit civic to montreal to go see the weigh in’s and do the autogragh sessions for ufc 83. but i dont know what time it starts, or even if its at the bell center. Please hep me out, i got fucked over for tickets and this is all i got.
I know somebody out there knows something
Thanks guys
fitch is no where near gsp
I agree with Karo.
[quote comment=”398355″]Gotta agree 100% with Karo. I would like to see GSP destroy Fitch, just to shut up all the fitch nut huggers who say he deserves his shot. If his 6-0 record is your only arguement, then why isnt Roger Huerta fighting for the title. Because, the opponents they beat.[/quote]
First of all it is 8 and 0 not six. Second, Huerta wanted to take time off in 2008 that’s why he’s not getting a title shot because it would have been him and Kenny Florian tonight to see who’s next in line and not Lauzon, so that’s all on Huerta’s own decision.
As for Fitch’s last fight, I though he fought it a little too cautiously, but he had so much to lose against an opponent who is no can, but isn’t well known. Jardine runs into Houston while he was blaring his way to a title shot and look what happened, couple of wins later, he still hasn’t gottten a shot, so I can understand Fitch’s careful approach.
As for Diego, Holding a guy in a guillotine for half a round that aint even choking him, Fitch was given thumbs up the whole time, aint exactly winning to me. It’s like lay and pray but on your back. He was just hanging on for dear life.
Karo’s an ego trip. “Do you know who I am” He said English ain’t his first language and that it was intended differently, but that’s just a cover up for looking like a total tool. The only thing I know for sure is this.
The UFC will be able to market a Jon Fitch/ Karo Parisyan fight better than either one of them fighting GSP or Serra.
I’ve grown to like Karo, but I still wonder when he’ll be able to keep a line of reasoning for more than 2 sentences. I’ve yet to see or hear it happen.
I agree with Karo. With that being said Karo will get mauled also buy St Pierre, Fitch, KOS, and lets not forget the loss to Diego!!
Its about time “the Heat” makes sense Jon Fitch is over rated I seen him in one of my backyard arenas less than 2 years ago and he barely beat Jeff Joslin can’t wait till gsp puts a dent in his record…just a matter of time..
the only significant punches that Fitch landed where a few hammer fists when diego was trying to sweep him. other than that it was a lay n pray victory Diego was much more active in all 3 rounds from his back thatn Fitch on top, and on agression alone Diego should of won the first round easily. and the rest well apparently Cecil ppls disagreed.
so does this mean karo thinks he can beat GSP?
[quote post=”5624″]Its about time “the Heat” makes sense Jon Fitch is over rated [/quote]
How is a guy who is 8 and 0 in the octagon “over rated”???
Fitch said that he thinks GSP is afraid to get knocked out. I agree. However, GSP is amazing, and IF (if if if if) he makes it through matt sera, we will see if Fitch is right, or over rated.
[quote comment=”398377″]Serra will tap out St. Pierre then EVERYBODY is going to forget about GSP and call out “the TERROR”. please believe it![/quote]
YOU best be changing your name Kinda Kraze
well that’s that then… Gotta be a Karo Vs Fitch fight to settle this
And…..the only reason Karo thinks that Diego beat Fitch is because Karo lost to the same Diego Sanchez so thats the only way he can justify being the better fighter. Pathetic again. I hope he does grow some balls someday and put his money where is mouth is and fight Fitch. I won’t give him once ounce of respect until he stops ducking Fitch or shuts his mouth.
Serra will tap out St. Pierre then EVERYBODY is going to forget about GSP and call out “the TERROR”. please believe it!
YOU best be changing your name Kinda Kraze
Lol
Poor Karo, he tried to hand pick his opponent and he got Tiago…Big Mistake! Tiago is going to Knock him out tonight!
I dont know how anyone can say that Diego deserved to beat Fitch.
As for GSP, he is the best welterweight in the world and if he is on his game, he will beat everyone….
GSP really MAULED Karo, so he should just shut his mouth.
I hope we get to see Karo vs. Fitch because I want to see who really deserves to be fighting for the title against the winner of Serra/GSP, but since Karo already turned down that fight, its not going to happen because that would put the welterweight title on hold again.
[quote comment=”398507″][quote comment=”398377″]Serra will tap out St. Pierre then EVERYBODY is going to forget about GSP and call out “the TERROR”. please believe it![/quote]
YOU best be changing your name Kinda Kraze[/quote]
thats what it means in japanese…. but naw man, i’m serious. who’s the champ?.. thats what i thought.
[quote comment=”398533″]Poor Karo, he tried to hand pick his opponent and he got Tiago…Big Mistake! Tiago is going to Knock him out tonight!
I dont know how anyone can say that Diego deserved to beat Fitch.
As for GSP, he is the best welterweight in the world and if he is on his game, he will beat everyone….
GSP really MAULED Karo, so he should just shut his mouth.
I hope we get to see Karo vs. Fitch because I want to see who really deserves to be fighting for the title against the winner of Serra/GSP, but since Karo already turned down that fight, its not going to happen because that would put the welterweight title on hold again.[/quote]
Totally agree with you John and its nice to see someone else with some common sense. My money is on TKO 2nd round courtesy of Thiago! Bet double on Karo coming up with a lame excuse afterwards as well!
[quote comment=”398355″]Gotta agree 100% with Karo. I would like to see GSP destroy Fitch, just to shut up all the fitch nut huggers who say he deserves his shot. If his 6-0 record is your only arguement, then why isnt Roger Huerta fighting for the title. Because, the opponents they beat.[/quote]
Roger Huerta deserves a title shot…he’ll get one soon enough. The problem for all 155ers is that BJ Penn is just too good. Everyone else is great but BJ is on another level. Guida, Huerta, Tyson Griffin, Thiago Tavares, theyre all just about equal but BJ is much better. The beating he gave Stevenson is proof, because Stevenson is probably a little better than all those other guys, and WAY more experienced. Their only hope is that BJ moves back up to 170. As for Karo, he hasnt impressed in a VERY long time. Go back through his record and see when the last time he actually FINISHED an opponent was…2 years ago. And sure, he has 9 wins in the UFC but 7 are by decision…7! I guarantee he wont finish Alves…he might win a decision at best.
[quote comment=”398377″]Serra will tap out St. Pierre then EVERYBODY is going to forget about GSP and call out “the TERROR”. please believe it![/quote]
i have seen nothing more ridiculous than this since Leprechaun: In da hood.
“very questionable”
Come on VERY questionable. GSP will destroy Serra.
How do you “kinda” beat someone?
…what does that say about him??? he is scared of Fitch and he is talking about how bad StPierrem might beat Fitch, this guy has some ass beating around the corner, he will never be ranked or beat anyone ranked higher, so he may as well prepare himself menatally for a disappointing future.
we will just Call him Karo “Close but no cigar’ Parysian!
Fitch will rape GSP’s soul
Karo is overated. If Fitch would get destroyed by GSP then “the Heat” shouldnt even be in the same arena as GSP.
what is up with all the fitch lovers on here?? Fitch can do no wrong….based on his last fight (a snooze fest) he’d get beat by karo and gsp.
I agree with karo wholeheartedly
ok i had no problems with fitch up until i saw his interview after his last fight. it’s one thing to say you want a title shot, all fighters do that, but then he went on to say that GSP had two easy fights against matt hughes and that he is afraid to get knocked out. if Mr Unanimous Decision (fitch)thinks matt is an easy fight, maybe he should fight him next and then he can start talking title shot. but wait, then fitch goes on to compare himself to Royce Gracie who would snap fitch’s arm clean off his body if he ever fought him even at Royce’s age.
Fitch, your a good fighter and i know your looking for a good paycheck but all the fighters you named in that interview would kill you.
check the interview folks
http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?pn=2&fa=MultiMedia.video
he would say that considering Diego beat him
[quote comment=”398625″]what is up with all the fitch lovers on here?? Fitch can do no wrong….based on his last fight (a snooze fest) he’d get beat by karo and gsp.[/quote]
What did Karo do in his last fight? Barely get by in a boring fight as well. Fitch beat Diego who beat Karo. Fitch knocked out Thiago who is about to knock out Karo as well. Its not that we are “Fitch Lovers” Its just that we don’t have any respect for Karo when he is afraid to fight Fitch yet he talks trash about him after the fact. Its Shut the F’ up or fight!
GSP would handle Fitch. Karo is right… but Karo will get upset by Alves 2nite and passed on the 170 ladder!!! Also, I think Serra will shock the world again and that arguement will be meaningless unless they decide to give Hughes to Serra as his 1st defense and let GSP and Fitch go at it for #1 contender?
[quote comment=”398503″]
Fitch said that he thinks GSP is afraid to get knocked out. I agree. However, GSP is amazing, and IF (if if if if) he makes it through matt sera, we will see if Fitch is right, or over rated.[/quote]
Fitch should be one to talk, since he was afraid to stand with Chris Wilson.
GSP has only been rocked in 1 fight in his entire career, against Serra. If GSP stood and traded with Penn for the majority of their fight, then he’s not afraid to stand, and he doesn’t have a bad chin.
Fitch is just trying to talk about the Top WW in the world (GSP) so that he’ll get a title shot. Be careful what you wish for. GSP outclasses Fitch in all aspects of MMA.
fact of the matter is never one of these guys are gonna mostly be champ anytime soon. Karo relies on his judo too much and fitch on his wrestling. If either one fought GSP or Serra they’d lose. A fight between the two of them would almost certainly end in a decision. The both talk too much trash. Let Fitch fight for the title then give Karo a shot. Both will probably fail anyway so just have them fight either other!!!
What is Karo talking about? Its hard to believe that a guy that lacks enough discipline to ever fight at a show in shape would feel he ever has room to criticize anyone. I would think part of being a professional fighter would include being disciplined enough to drop the love handles. If the bum would get out of the bars and work he could fight 155.
I think it is crazy to criticize Fitch for fighting cautiously against Wilson. If Jon would have got caught, he had a lot to lose. I guess it beats ducking opponents, and showing your insecurity in your ability by talking trash to anyone with a microphone or a publication.
About the comment with Diego, is that guy serious? I think he will say anything to convince himself he can beat Fitch!!! Unfortunately for Karo, when Alves beats him there will be plenty of chances for everyone to hear some of his patented excuses. Who knows maybe he could land a talk radio show or monthly magazine column discussing the trials and tribulations of living a life being your own biggest fan!!!
remember the last wrestler who fought gsp *cough* josh kosh *cough* gsp nailed every takedown. fitch better work on his jiu jitsu. GSP tko second round.
Well, Sanchez totally beat Karo, so I guess that makes Fitch better than Karo in his book.
Fitch over GSP by gogoplata
Just kidding
[quote comment=”398616″]Fitch will rape GSP’s soul[/quote]
Yeah he probably would, but he’ll get his ass kicked.
[quote comment=”398616″]Fitch will rape GSP’s soul[/quote]
Did you see Jon last fight, Man that guy is so over rated chris wilson almost beat him, it was closer than the judges made out to be and Jon did not do anything.
I was the most boring fight on the card KOS had better fight than Jon.
If he shows up to face GSP like that, dude he wont even get out first round.
Even the fight before that against Sanchez it was too close man it could’ve went either way. And from what I heard Sanchez was sick or something.
JON is an opportunist I think his luck end when he faces GSP. Oh yeah all you Serra fans I said when not if. Serra sorry I like him but this is where it ends for you.
I wouldn’t be suprised if Serra’s ranking drops to 7 or something
Shhhiiiittttt..Karo gets outclassed every other time he fights.
[quote comment=”398585″]How do you “kinda” beat someone?[/quote]
by decision
thats kinda a win
if the heat fought fitch it would be a 15 minute snooze fest with fitch trying to LnP. the Heat would bring it , just not enough of it .
judging this fight would be awful because 1 of the fighters has to get 10, while the other gets a 9. i probably wouldnt give either fighter a 10.unless one of them truly dominates. IMO when the round is very close there should be more 10-10 or 9-9 scores by the judges.
I hope they give Fitch a title shot so everyone can get off the fitch bandwagon already. Fitch is a boring fighter to watch and he barely beat a staph infected Diego Sanchez. With the looks of his last performance, it wont be long till someone knocks his ass out. Hopefully it will be Serra because St. Pierre and his purple spandex will get owned by Serra once again.
[quote comment=”398779″]if the heat fought fitch it would be a 15 minute snooze fest with fitch trying to LnP. the Heat would bring it , just not enough of it .
judging this fight would be awful because 1 of the fighters has to get 10, while the other gets a 9. i probably wouldnt give either fighter a 10.unless one of them truly dominates. IMO when the round is very close there should be more 10-10 or 9-9 scores by the judges.[/quote]
o yea.. good call. nothing worse than an overhyped controversial boring split decision. ugghh. you’re right about the scoring too.
Some of you guys are complete idiots who apparently have only been watching MMA for 6 months. Look at Fitch’s 8-0 UFC record as a whole….not just last 2 fights!
Shonie Carter - Tapped, rolled over and threw up in the ring
Brock Larson - Unanimous decision - if you think Brock Larson is a can, you’re exactly the person I’m talking about….you don’t know sh!t!
Josh Burkan - Tapped and looked like the elephant man
Thiago Alves - TKO - anyone think Karo’s in trouble tonight?
Kuniyoshi Hironaka - Unanimous decision, but he was DOMINATING that fight until he broke his nose in the 3rd.
Luigi Fioravanti - Tapped - was never in the fight
Roan Carneiro - Tapped
Diego - Split decision that should have been unanimous - Trying and FAILING submissions doesn’t mean sh!t! If you were at the fight, you know the whole arena knows who won. Hell listen to Diego’s post fight interview….even he knew!
Chris Wilson - Unanimous decision - this guy is big, long and accurate. Just because you don’t know someone’s name doesn’t mean they might not be the hell out of some these guys everyone thinks is invincible.
So, out of these 8 fights, how many were lay n pray?
Now, for Karo….
Fitch calls him out after the Luigi fight in March of 2007. Instead of taking the fight, he fights Burkman, who Fitch already destroyed. He wins a decision. Instead of fighting Fitch as his next fight, he decides to fight Alves, who Fitch already destroyed.
Someone please tell me WTF has Karo done to earn a shot before Fitch. I guess you can consider their other common oppenent - Diego, but that doesn’t help his cause either!
[quote comment=”398629″]ok i had no problems with fitch up until i saw his interview after his last fight. it’s one thing to say you want a title shot, all fighters do that, but then he went on to say that GSP had two easy fights against matt hughes and that he is afraid to get knocked out. if Mr Unanimous Decision (fitch)thinks matt is an easy fight, maybe he should fight him next and then he can start talking title shot. but wait, then fitch goes on to compare himself to Royce Gracie who would snap fitch’s arm clean off his body if he ever fought him even at Royce’s age.
Fitch, your a good fighter and i know your looking for a good paycheck but all the fighters you named in that interview would kill you.
check the interview folks
http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?pn=2&fa=MultiMedia.video/quote
I hear ya though. I look at GSP as more of a GNP guy. He’s fought a couple of guys that have got knocked out before he could get it to the ground. I could see the Serra fight going the same way as the Hughes fight. Serra’s not going to be easy to knockout.
[quote comment=”398824″]Some of you guys are complete idiots who apparently have only been watching MMA for 6 months. Look at Fitch’s 8-0 UFC record as a whole….not just last 2 fights!
Shonie Carter - Tapped, rolled over and threw up in the ring
Brock Larson - Unanimous decision - if you think Brock Larson is a can, you’re exactly the person I’m talking about….you don’t know sh!t!
Josh Burkan - Tapped and looked like the elephant man
Thiago Alves - TKO - anyone think Karo’s in trouble tonight?
Kuniyoshi Hironaka - Unanimous decision, but he was DOMINATING that fight until he broke his nose in the 3rd.
Luigi Fioravanti - Tapped - was never in the fight
Roan Carneiro - Tapped
Diego - Split decision that should have been unanimous - Trying and FAILING submissions doesn’t mean sh!t! If you were at the fight, you know the whole arena knows who won. Hell listen to Diego’s post fight interview….even he knew!
Chris Wilson - Unanimous decision - this guy is big, long and accurate. Just because you don’t know someone’s name doesn’t mean they might not be the hell out of some these guys everyone thinks is invincible.
So, out of these 8 fights, how many were lay n pray?
Now, for Karo….
Fitch calls him out after the Luigi fight in March of 2007. Instead of taking the fight, he fights Burkman, who Fitch already destroyed. He wins a decision. Instead of fighting Fitch as his next fight, he decides to fight Alves, who Fitch already destroyed.
Someone please tell me WTF has Karo done to earn a shot before Fitch. I guess you can consider their other common oppenent - Diego, but that doesn’t help his cause either![/quote]
Thank you so much for clarifying this to the idiots on here who don’t know what they are talking about…another correction: Diego was at good health when he fought Fitch and even bragged about it before the fight. He had the staph infection during his fight with Koscheck. Fitch DOMINATED a perfectly healthy Sanchez who beat up on Karo earlier.
One throw from Karo is more exciting than a whole 3 round fight that Fitch has. That alone should give the title shot to Karo first. ( utaptout ) said when was the last time Karo finished someone, the same can be said for Fitch. Fitch is one of the most boring good fighters out there, and whats up with that stupid face he makes all the time?
[quote comment=”398847″]One throw from Karo is more exciting than a whole 3 round fight that Fitch has. That alone should give the title shot to Karo first. ( utaptout ) said when was the last time Karo finished someone, the same can be said for Fitch. Fitch is one of the most boring good fighters out there, and whats up with that stupid face he makes all the time?[/quote]
Read my last comment if you want answer as to who deserves a shot first. Don’t get enamored by a judo throw in a UFC ring. It hurts about as much as getting suplexed in the WWE….if that’s what you’re looking for, catch the next Wrestlemania.
Whatever people think of Karo, I like him and rate him, he knows what he is talking about when it comes to Fitch and GSP.
And for the record, Fitch is way over-rated.
Wrestlers can only go so far and fall short of the best. You need more tools in your toolbox, which he hasn’t got.
[quote comment=”398855″][quote comment=”398847″]One throw from Karo is more exciting than a whole 3 round fight that Fitch has. That alone should give the title shot to Karo first. ( utaptout ) said when was the last time Karo finished someone, the same can be said for Fitch. Fitch is one of the most boring good fighters out there, and whats up with that stupid face he makes all the time?[/quote]
Read my last comment if you want answer as to who deserves a shot first. Don’t get enamored by a judo throw in a UFC ring. It hurts about as much as getting suplexed in the WWE….if that’s what you’re looking for, catch the next Wrestlemania.[/quote]
What the hell does wrestling have to do with my comment? I’m talking about excitement not wrestling. You being Fitchs #1 nutthugger dosen’t give him an automatic title shot.
[quote comment=”398824″]Some of you guys are complete idiots who apparently have only been watching MMA for 6 months. Look at Fitch’s 8-0 UFC record as a whole….not just last 2 fights!
Shonie Carter - Tapped, rolled over and threw up in the ring
Brock Larson - Unanimous decision - if you think Brock Larson is a can, you’re exactly the person I’m talking about….you don’t know sh!t!
Josh Burkan - Tapped and looked like the elephant man
Thiago Alves - TKO - anyone think Karo’s in trouble tonight?
Kuniyoshi Hironaka - Unanimous decision, but he was DOMINATING that fight until he broke his nose in the 3rd.
Luigi Fioravanti - Tapped - was never in the fight
Roan Carneiro - Tapped
Diego - Split decision that should have been unanimous - Trying and FAILING submissions doesn’t mean sh!t! If you were at the fight, you know the whole arena knows who won. Hell listen to Diego’s post fight interview….even he knew!
Chris Wilson - Unanimous decision - this guy is big, long and accurate. Just because you don’t know someone’s name doesn’t mean they might not be the hell out of some these guys everyone thinks is invincible.
So, out of these 8 fights, how many were lay n pray?
Now, for Karo….
Fitch calls him out after the Luigi fight in March of 2007. Instead of taking the fight, he fights Burkman, who Fitch already destroyed. He wins a decision. Instead of fighting Fitch as his next fight, he decides to fight Alves, who Fitch already destroyed.
Someone please tell me WTF has Karo done to earn a shot before Fitch. I guess you can consider their other common oppenent - Diego, but that doesn’t help his cause either![/quote]
TonyDrip: I cant argue with you at all! All very good pointrs and accurate. i am also sick of the fans that are bashing him for the Chris Wilson fight. Chris Wilson is a tough dude, and its not his fault some of you dont know who he is, that doesnt mean he isnt a great fighter.
I will admit that Karo, did deserve a title shot, back in the day when Hughes was on top. They gave him a title fight, then he got hurt, and never got his title shot. But that doesnt mean he deserves a title shot Today! Years have passed. If Karo wanted to garentee himself a title shot, he should have fought Fitch when Fitch called him out.
Karo can forget all this title talk because he is getting KTFO tonight by one of the best strikers at welterweight…Tiago ALVES!!! He just needs to be careful not to get caught in Karo’s Kimura/Takedown transition. Fitch beat Tiago, but Fitch was a lot bigger then him. Karo and Alves are close to the same size so it will be fun to watch!
[quote comment=”398344″]wtf is wrong with this clown… talking badly about a guy he refuses to face
i didnt used to mind him as a fighter but after his appearance on TUF he showed the world what a n arrogant jackass he really is
karo shouldnt get the nod for a title shot
170lb division is stacked i cant see them taking a guy of a UFN and giving him an immediate title shot UFN are “B class” shows
fitch has an unbelievable win streak
his last performance wasnt great but he still managed to pick up the W in a tough fight
i honestly hope karo gets a shot at GSP (not that he deserves one) so that GSP can “maul” him and show him who GSP is[/quote]
UFN r not b class shows. these cards always have fights on them that will have title complications to them. so to say that is stupid.
also, i think fitch deserves the title shot, but personnaly i think karo vs. gsp/serra would be more exciting. a rematch either way. i don’t think that fitch is that exciting of a fighter. karo has had some boring fights, but as a whole i think his fights are generally more exciting.
i also agree with karo, fitch would have no chance against gsp. fitch likes to take guys down and control them on the ground, when is the last time you seen any body do that with gsp???
Karo is probably right about j fitch getting mauled by GSP but diego did not beat fitch and Karo can’t beat fitch either
[quote comment=”398897″][quote comment=”398855″][quote comment=”398847″]One throw from Karo is more exciting than a whole 3 round fight that Fitch has. That alone should give the title shot to Karo first. ( utaptout ) said when was the last time Karo finished someone, the same can be said for Fitch. Fitch is one of the most boring good fighters out there, and whats up with that stupid face he makes all the time?[/quote]
Read my last comment if you want answer as to who deserves a shot first. Don’t get enamored by a judo throw in a UFC ring. It hurts about as much as getting suplexed in the WWE….if that’s what you’re looking for, catch the next Wrestlemania.[/quote]
What the hell does wrestling have to do with my comment? I’m talking about excitement not wrestling. You being Fitchs #1 nutthugger dosen’t give him an automatic title shot.[/quote]
This is FIGHTING, not entertainment. If all you care about is exciting Judo throws….YIPEEE, go watch WWE - the E stand for entertainment by the way. Get it now, or do you need more explanation!?
By the way, I have no problem admitting that Fitch is one of my favorite fighters, but I back my comments up with fact! Look at his record and how he won….’nuf said!
Jealous much?
Karo’s Judo throws only work on cans or anyone who isn’t half-ass decent at defending them. Do you really think they will work against a good upper body wrestler? I’d be VERY surprised to see Karo be able to throw GSP or Fitch for that matter. MMA involves all mixed martial arts not just throws and boxing. If a fighter is good they are balanced in all with little weakness. If some fighters choose to utilize their ground skills then their opponent needs to adapt. Karo just bitches so much because he obviously hasn’t adapted outside of the Judo background to improve his striking, bjj, or wrestling which is required to compete on the same lever as the fighters ranked above him.
[quote post=”5624″]This is FIGHTING, not entertainment. If all you care about is exciting Judo throws….YIPEEE, go watch WWE - the E stand for entertainment by the way. Get it now, or do you need more explanation!?
By the way, I have no problem admitting that Fitch is one of my favorite fighters, but I back my comments up with fact! Look at his record and how he won….’nuf said! [/quote]
Damn right! Enough said! Fitch is boring as shit to watch.
[quote comment=”398934″][quote post=”5624″]This is FIGHTING, not entertainment. If all you care about is exciting Judo throws….YIPEEE, go watch WWE - the E stand for entertainment by the way. Get it now, or do you need more explanation!?
By the way, I have no problem admitting that Fitch is one of my favorite fighters, but I back my comments up with fact! Look at his record and how he won….’nuf said! [/quote]
Damn right! Enough said! Fitch is boring as shit to watch.[/quote]
Then get in the ring! Otherwise sit on the sidelines and watch from the peanut gallery like everyone else.
The fact is that if Fitch didn’t have to stalk Wilson to get a hold of his ass to fight him it probably would have been a better fight. Fitch doesn’t enjoy fighting people who continuously back up where he has to corner them. Fitch/GSP would be MUCH more entertaining because both fighters would come after each other and you’d see all forms of mixed martial arts at the top lever since both fighters really don’t have any weaknesses. First mistake will probably lose that fight because both fighters are very smart at setting things up and capitalizing on mistakes of their opponents. I think this fact will make that match up VERY entertaining.
[quote comment=”398847″]One throw from Karo is more exciting than a whole 3 round fight that Fitch has. That alone should give the title shot to Karo first. ( utaptout ) said when was the last time Karo finished someone, the same can be said for Fitch. Fitch is one of the most boring good fighters out there, and whats up with that stupid face he makes all the time?[/quote]
Karo is good for throws on a highlight real,and complaining like a little girl about how life is so unfair to him.
I don’t think GSP would maul Fitch, but it would probably look like the GSP-Kos fight where GSP basically stuffed any offence that Kos tried to mount. I’m not just saying this b/c Kos and Fitch train together. Fitch is well-rounded, but he doesn’t stand out in any one category. GSP fares very well against those types of fighters.
[quote comment=”398923″][quote comment=”398897″][quote comment=”398855″][quote comment=”398847″]One throw from Karo is more exciting than a whole 3 round fight that Fitch has. That alone should give the title shot to Karo first. ( utaptout ) said when was the last time Karo finished someone, the same can be said for Fitch. Fitch is one of the most boring good fighters out there, and whats up with that stupid face he makes all the time?[/quote]
Read my last comment if you want answer as to who deserves a shot first. Don’t get enamored by a judo throw in a UFC ring. It hurts about as much as getting suplexed in the WWE….if that’s what you’re looking for, catch the next Wrestlemania.[/quote]
What the hell does wrestling have to do with my comment? I’m talking about excitement not wrestling. You being Fitchs #1 nutthugger dosen’t give him an automatic title shot.[/quote]
This is FIGHTING, not entertainment. If all you care about is exciting Judo throws….YIPEEE, go watch WWE - the E stand for entertainment by the way. Get it now, or do you need more explanation!?
By the way, I have no problem admitting that Fitch is one of my favorite fighters, but I back my comments up with fact! Look at his record and how he won….’nuf said![/quote]
You still talking about the WWE? do you have ( ADD ) Fitch is boring to watch, 3 rounds of just trying to get by, so imagine a title fight would be 5 rounds of that shit. Fitch’s 7 boring decisions - 6 submissions - 5 KO’s 1 no contest trust me I know my shit. Get over it.
[quote post=”5624″]This is FIGHTING, not entertainment. If all you care about is exciting Judo throws….YIPEEE, go watch WWE - the E stand for entertainment by the way. Get it now, or do you need more explanation!?
By the way, I have no problem admitting that Fitch is one of my favorite fighters, but I back my comments up with fact! Look at his record and how he won….’nuf said!
Damn right! Enough said! Fitch is boring as shit to watch.
Then get in the ring! Otherwise sit on the sidelines and watch from the peanut gallery like everyone else. [/quote]
What are you smoking? Anything that good should be shared. What do you think we are all doing. We sit at home or at the event and watch the fights and Fitch is still boring as shit to watch. I could probably drop some acid eat some mushrooms and smoke a joint and still think Fitch was boring. Get over it. It doesnt mean he sucks it just means he puts me to sleep and I am not even fighting him.
LOL I half agree with this guy, he’s funny, gsp well prepared would maul any welter weight on a decent night, if he’s not f**ked in the head. Hughes is going up to light-heavy weight LOL obviously wants no part of st.pierre and is afraid of the spider, don’t blame him.
[quote comment=”398351″]”The only problem is St. Pierre has to beat Matt Serra at UFC 83 later this month to gain the 170-pound strap, making a possible match up between Fitch and St. Pierre very questionable”
Mania, does that mean you think Serra takes this one?[/quote]
LOL dude mania I’ve lost all faith in you, holy s**t.
ufc 83 should be called “taking candy from a baby” LOL. I’m NEVER commenting on this site again for 1 year if serra wins again against gsp, any serra fans want to make the same wager?
[quote comment=”398900″][quote comment=”398824″]Some of you guys are complete idiots who apparently have only been watching MMA for 6 months. Look at Fitch’s 8-0 UFC record as a whole….not just last 2 fights!
Shonie Carter - Tapped, rolled over and threw up in the ring
Brock Larson - Unanimous decision - if you think Brock Larson is a can, you’re exactly the person I’m talking about….you don’t know sh!t!
Josh Burkan - Tapped and looked like the elephant man
Thiago Alves - TKO - anyone think Karo’s in trouble tonight?
Kuniyoshi Hironaka - Unanimous decision, but he was DOMINATING that fight until he broke his nose in the 3rd.
Luigi Fioravanti - Tapped - was never in the fight
Roan Carneiro - Tapped
Diego - Split decision that should have been unanimous - Trying and FAILING submissions doesn’t mean sh!t! If you were at the fight, you know the whole arena knows who won. Hell listen to Diego’s post fight interview….even he knew!
Chris Wilson - Unanimous decision - this guy is big, long and accurate. Just because you don’t know someone’s name doesn’t mean they might not be the hell out of some these guys everyone thinks is invincible.
So, out of these 8 fights, how many were lay n pray?
Now, for Karo….
Fitch calls him out after the Luigi fight in March of 2007. Instead of taking the fight, he fights Burkman, who Fitch already destroyed. He wins a decision. Instead of fighting Fitch as his next fight, he decides to fight Alves, who Fitch already destroyed.
Someone please tell me WTF has Karo done to earn a shot before Fitch. I guess you can consider their other common oppenent - Diego, but that doesn’t help his cause either![/quote]
TonyDrip: I cant argue with you at all! All very good pointrs and accurate. i am also sick of the fans that are bashing him for the Chris Wilson fight. Chris Wilson is a tough dude, and its not his fault some of you dont know who he is, that doesnt mean he isnt a great fighter.
I will admit that Karo, did deserve a title shot, back in the day when Hughes was on top. They gave him a title fight, then he got hurt, and never got his title shot. But that doesnt mean he deserves a title shot Today! Years have passed. If Karo wanted to garentee himself a title shot, he should have fought Fitch when Fitch called him out.
Karo can forget all this title talk because he is getting KTFO tonight by one of the best strikers at welterweight…Tiago ALVES!!! He just needs to be careful not to get caught in Karo’s Kimura/Takedown transition. Fitch beat Tiago, but Fitch was a lot bigger then him. Karo and Alves are close to the same size so it will be fun to watch![/quote]
Thanks John. I don’t have a problem with people making intelligent comments, but unfortunatley that’s only about 50% of the people who post.
This is NOT Muay Thai, Karate or boxing. Grappling and wresting are a big part of the sport. If people think that’s boring, no issues….go watch Muay Thai, boxing or Karate.
If people expect a fighter to change his style just to entertain them, then they don’t get it. It’s about winning fights. Just ask Frank Shamrock, who would have the Strikeforce belt if he played to his strength.
Jon Fitch would kill Karo too…whats his point?
I suck at picking the winners…
The only one I thought would win was Hamill and I wanted Boetch to win.
Aw shit anyway.
What a night
Fuck I hate diaz. Batman should have won, stay the hell out of the legs, wont they ever learn…
[quote post=”5624″]Just ask Frank Shamrock, who would have the Strikeforce belt if he played to his strength.[/quote]
I’m tired of hearing this. Frank’s knees prevent him from shooting. His takedowns come from bodylocks, but guess what, that’s what San Shou is all about!
After tonites performance, Karo is a LONG way from a title shot.
And anyone who think Fitch is a boring fighter needs their eyes examined and their heads checked. Just because he uses his head and fights to his strength doesn’t make him boring. And If you think that winning doesn’t warrant a title shot then maybe you’re one of those clowns that believe Houston Alexander or Marlon Sims should be fighting for a title in their respective organizations. After both those guys are exciting especially when they are getting owned.
Good fighters aren’t always the most exciting, thats always been a fact.
[quote comment=”398655″][quote comment=”398503″]
Fitch said that he thinks GSP is afraid to get knocked out. I agree. However, GSP is amazing, and IF (if if if if) he makes it through matt sera, we will see if Fitch is right, or over rated.[/quote]
Fitch should be one to talk, since he was afraid to stand with Chris Wilson.
GSP has only been rocked in 1 fight in his entire career, against Serra. If GSP stood and traded with Penn for the majority of their fight, then he’s not afraid to stand, and he doesn’t have a bad chin.
Fitch is just trying to talk about the Top WW in the world (GSP) so that he’ll get a title shot. Be careful what you wish for. GSP outclasses Fitch in all aspects of MMA.[/quote]
Why do some people think GSP is afraid to get knocked out, just because he wanted to prove a point,by beating 2 wrestlers at their own game. Do you seriously think Matt(I can’t strike a match)Hughes is a KO threat to anyone,give me a break. Kos throws wild haymakers, but he doesn’t exactly have Liddell’s KO record. Are you aware that GSP has been concentrating on his STRIKING in training? Why would he do this if he didn’t plan on using it in the fight and if he was afraid to stand? GSP will make a point of beating Serra standing or submit him.
Karo got “mauled” by someone Fitch tore up. Damn that is poetic.
[quote comment=”398443″]What don’t you people understand about the Fitch / Diego fight??? Did anyone notice Diego’s beat up face after the fight compared to Fitch who looked barely touched? Who had the most take downs? Who landed the most punches and elbows? Yes Diego had the most un-effective submission attempts but how in the hell can you say he won that when it should have been a unanimous decision. Maybe go rent the event DVD and think again?
Karo has no class talking about how Jon will get mulled when that fag is afraid to even get in the ring with Jon. Karo “the Fitch-ducker” Parisyan will get his ass kicked tonight probably via knockout by Alves so he won’t have anything to worry about regarding a future title shot. All I can say is this clown is pathetic and needs to think before he opens his stupid mouth. Too bad he is afraid to fight Fitch otherwise Fitch would shut it for him.[/quote]
… Diegos face was not beat up at all, none of them were. Fitch just layed on him inflicting no damage, your observation is clearly bias.
[quote comment=”399837″][quote comment=”398443″]What don’t you people understand about the Fitch / Diego fight??? Did anyone notice Diego’s beat up face after the fight compared to Fitch who looked barely touched? Who had the most take downs? Who landed the most punches and elbows? Yes Diego had the most un-effective submission attempts but how in the hell can you say he won that when it should have been a unanimous decision. Maybe go rent the event DVD and think again?
Karo has no class talking about how Jon will get mulled when that fag is afraid to even get in the ring with Jon. Karo “the Fitch-ducker” Parisyan will get his ass kicked tonight probably via knockout by Alves so he won’t have anything to worry about regarding a future title shot. All I can say is this clown is pathetic and needs to think before he opens his stupid mouth. Too bad he is afraid to fight Fitch otherwise Fitch would shut it for him.[/quote]
… Diegos face was not beat up at all, none of them were. Fitch just layed on him inflicting no damage.[/quote]
Diego even said that he got beat down during his post fight interview so I guess if you think Diego won that fight you might want to inform him on that because even he thinks that he lost to Fitch.
I used to like Karo as a figher as he used to be exciting to watch (his fight with Diego) for example. However, he doesn’t look like his head was in the right place before his fight with Alves. He was calling out Fitch instead of concentrating on Alves.
Fitch would destroy Karo…it’s obvious at that point. Fitch should either fight Hughes or the winner of GSP-Serra. This would help to clean up the top of the division.
The rest of the 6 or 7 contenders (Karo included) should keep fighting until one polishes their record with sweat and blood like Fitch has done over the past 3 years.
Now you karo lovers can insert your foot into your mouth. Are you blind the fitch/diego fight was a ass kicking! Diego looked like he was done after the 2nd round. The only time fitch was “in trouble” he was giving a thumbs up to his corner. Fitch is no doubt one of the smartest fighters in the ufc. He is a class act Iwish there were more fighters like him. 6 mo. from now jon will have the strap while karo is eating his twinkies whatching jon kicking GSP ass!!
[quote comment=”398824″]Some of you guys are complete idiots who apparently have only been watching MMA for 6 months. Look at Fitch’s 8-0 UFC record as a whole….not just last 2 fights!
Shonie Carter - Tapped, rolled over and threw up in the ring
Brock Larson - Unanimous decision - if you think Brock Larson is a can, you’re exactly the person I’m talking about….you don’t know sh!t!
Josh Burkan - Tapped and looked like the elephant man
Thiago Alves - TKO - anyone think Karo’s in trouble tonight?
Kuniyoshi Hironaka - Unanimous decision, but he was DOMINATING that fight until he broke his nose in the 3rd.
Luigi Fioravanti - Tapped - was never in the fight
Roan Carneiro - Tapped
Diego - Split decision that should have been unanimous - Trying and FAILING submissions doesn’t mean sh!t! If you were at the fight, you know the whole arena knows who won. Hell listen to Diego’s post fight interview….even he knew!
Chris Wilson - Unanimous decision - this guy is big, long and accurate. Just because you don’t know someone’s name doesn’t mean they might not be the hell out of some these guys everyone thinks is invincible.
So, out of these 8 fights, how many were lay n pray?
Now, for Karo….
Fitch calls him out after the Luigi fight in March of 2007. Instead of taking the fight, he fights Burkman, who Fitch already destroyed. He wins a decision. Instead of fighting Fitch as his next fight, he decides to fight Alves, who Fitch already destroyed.
Someone please tell me WTF has Karo done to earn a shot before Fitch. I guess you can consider their other common oppenent - Diego, but that doesn’t help his cause either![/quote]
I have been watching MMA since it started. I take back the comment about the Diego fight. It was the Koscheck fight where Diego was affected by the Staph infection. Diego was the weaker opponent in that fight and failed to abandon the take down attempts after realizing how strong Fitch was. Don’t get me wrong, I believe Fitch deserves a title shot..after all he is udefeated in the UFC. I just dont like his style of fighting..he is a big 170 and I believe that he is going to meet the same fate as guys like Jake O’brian who are wrestlers that end up getting KTFO by someone capable of doing so such as St. Pierre or Serra. Maybe Fitch should fight Hughes first to really test his wrestling skills. Then again that fight would probably put us all to sleep.