“The surgery was very quick, lasted 50 minutes, was quiet. Now I hope for healing and I think here in about two months I can return to training slowly, very cautiously…. Depending on my recovery, I think that I can fight again in September or October. We always talked with Dana White and also would like to thank him because the UFC offered me a doctor, a physical therapist — all to get me help. They have been very attentive with me.”
– Mauricio “Shogun” Rua tells Sherdog.com that his knee surgery was successful and that he hopes to return as soon as September if all things go according to plan. Rua disclosed a knee injury after his submission loss to Forrest Griffin in the Brazilian’s Octagon debut at UFC 76: “Knockout” in September 2007. He had it fixed after that fight, but reinjured the knee while training for Chuck Liddell at UFC 85 in June. Rashad Evans was tapped as Rua’s replacement.
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I hope Shogun makes a full recovery this time and doesn’t push it too quickly this time. We need to see that killer back in the cage in regular shogun form.
i just hope he regains his old form, but i hope in sept the ufc comes back to anaheim
I cant wait too see this guy fight again when hes healthy , I also dont think the UFC will be back in Cali too much after the Sherk bs..
Everyone says that Dana White doesn’t care or help out fighter, but offers Shogun a Doctor and Physical therapist. It’s nice to see the UFC look after their investments and fighters.
Shogun’s return can’t come soon enough…..I hope the Liddell fight still happens, I’m positive a healthy Shogun would dominate beer-gut Chuck…hahahah
Hopefully he doesnt take any ‘roids to speed his recovery….
He needs to go to 185!…Cause he cant hang at 205 without any roids!…
I hope this happens, I would love to see a healthy shogun take on the Spider.
just because there was no testing for steroids doesn’t mean that everyone from Pride was on them. Where do you guys get all this from. Give me the link that shows the Mitchell report on Pride fighting and steroids. Just rumours from the UFC nuthuggers.
When a guy is WAY more aggressive and MUCH bigger in Pride than the UFC, the word STERIODS comes to mind. Also it is no secret that guys from Showguns camp,like the juice. Of course not everyone was on them. Anderson Silva and Rampage are doing quite well with their NATURAL talent. Guys like Wandy, Shogun and CC are suspect though. When Rampage hangs a beating on Wandy and Showgun,you might think otherwise about them using steriods in Pride.
He’s yet to test the Light Heavyweight waters…give em a chance.
[quote comment=”396230″]Everyone says that Dana White doesn’t care or help out fighter, but offers Shogun a Doctor and Physical therapist. It’s nice to see the UFC look after their investments and fighters.[/quote]
Dana cares about his investment. the UFC will piss off their customers if Shogun blows out a knee again….there’s no way he should let that happen. September doesnt seem like a lot of time to heal and then train. i hope that physical therapist is good.
[quote comment=”396239″]just because there was no testing for steroids doesn’t mean that everyone from Pride was on them. Where do you guys get all this from. Give me the link that shows the Mitchell report on Pride fighting and steroids. Just rumours from the UFC nuthuggers.[/quote]
with no testing i think its likely that 90% of the fighters in pride used steroids, just to stay competitive. Thats what happened in baseball. its either cheat, or fade away into the background…besides, its not technically cheating if its not against the rules.
seem a little to soon. i hope he doesnt come back to soon & reinjure himself again. i wanna see the shogun that all his pride fans say is the real shogun. im sick of hearing that Forrest didnt face the real shogun.if thats the case then shogun didnt face the real forrest,because Forrest had a shoulder injury.
shogun please dont fight until your 100% healthy.
If there is a fight god, please let this bloke get back to full fitness. I want to see him destroy a few fighters and then smash Rampage again.
PLEASE FULLY RECOVER!!!
I want a huge fight for the LHW division. Shogun, healthy, hungry, in the LHW division of UFC? That’s a scary thing coming off of that Forrest LOSS.
He will only make the division that much more exciting. Looking forward to Fall!
[quote comment=”396188″]I hope Shogun makes a full recovery this time and doesn’t push it too quickly this time. We need to see that killer back in the cage in regular shogun form.[/quote]
i was rooting for forrest in their fight, i just as excited to see shougun in the ufc and give most of 205ers a run for their money….id love to see shogun and lyoto or shogun vs silva
[quote comment=”396235″]He needs to go to 185!…Cause he cant hang at 205 without any roids!…[/quote]
…shogun on roids? yeah thats why his knee is till not fully healed! …like they say behind every succesful man is pack of haterz like you..! CHurch!!
This makes absolutely no sense. Coming back from a second ACL tear on the same knee in six months? Ridiculous. Regardless, he will be seriously pounded at that division. He desperately needs to roid up and go oversees, or be realistic and lose that flab and head to 185.
He needs to not fight till december
[quote comment=”396242″]He’s yet to test the Light Heavyweight waters…give em a chance.[/quote]
[quote comment=”396235″]He needs to go to 185!…Cause he cant hang at 205 without any roids!…[/quote]you He already destroyed alot of top competition in his weight class he loses 1 fight and everybody turns against him know your history hes only 25 and hes still on top!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your right, he has destroyed a lot of top competition, WHEN HE WAS JUICED. Just look at the size difference from Pride to the fight with Forrest. He shrunk and so did Wandy. Is it another coincidence that they both are not as aggressive as they were in pride.
Atleast supporters can blame his knee injury for his lack of success in the octagon. think positive.
take 1 yr off, why risk a 3rd operation
[quote comment=”396485″]Atleast supporters can blame his knee injury for his lack of success in the octagon. think positive. :)[/quote]
haha he needs that knee so he can soccer kick guys in the head, oh snap he cant do that anymore!
The injury is BULL!!! he just didn’t want to fight Chuck. Now that Rashad has filled in, he thinks he can maybe come back in september.
[quote comment=”396540″]The injury is BULL!!! he just didn’t want to fight Chuck. Now that Rashad has filled in, he thinks he can maybe come back in september.[/quote]
Shogun, Wanderlei, and Cro Cop without a doubt looked way smaller in the UFC than in Pride. Steroids didn’t even occur to me until I read Kongo’s remarks. Pride was a great show that produced incredible fighters but if they didn’t test for steroids some fighters are bound to use “Performance enhancing Drugs”. I dont accuse any of these fighters of using them but it does make you wonder. BTW when you do get off the juice you are much more prone to injuries. Ask Sylvia after the Mir fight. ‘SNAP’ Randy is Hardcore but I also have my suspicions………
I just thought of a very scary thought that could shake up the light heavyweight division………
Imagine if rashad won his fight against liddell, jardine won his fight against silva and forrest won his fight against rampage……….. Lets hope this doesnt happen bc then that division would be impossible for joe silva to work out.
Like everyone has stated he needs to come back at 100%. Even though I want to see him back ASAP, I don’t want him to rush and injure himself again, this would be a last blow and I don’t think even his fans would continue to follow behind him. He needs to fight healthy period, and when he does, you TUF noobs roidrummor queens shogun haters will be amazed by his talent and become his supporters. It will happen, mark my words
After you lay off the juice, 3 things happen. (1) You get SMALLER. (2) Your performance DROPS. (3) You are much more prone to INJURY. Coincidence, maybe,but I doubt it.
[quote comment=”396632″]Shogun, Wanderlei, and Cro Cop without a doubt looked way smaller in the UFC than in Pride. Steroids didn’t even occur to me until I read Kongo’s remarks. Pride was a great show that produced incredible fighters but if they didn’t test for steroids some fighters are bound to use “Performance enhancing Drugs”. I dont accuse any of these fighters of using them but it does make you wonder. BTW when you do get off the juice you are much more prone to injuries. Ask Sylvia after the Mir fight. ‘SNAP’ Randy is Hardcore but I also have my suspicions………[/quote]
I don’t think for a second that Randy would use roids…
Get well hogun…god dammit i was looking forward to that fight…Would have made the card!
[quote comment=”396232″]Shogun’s return can’t come soon enough…..I hope the Liddell fight still happens, I’m positive a healthy Shogun would dominate beer-gut Chuck…hahahah[/quote]
He’ll get dominated again and end up back in Japan with Cro Cop. Especially if he fights chuck.
I agree with some of you, I think Shogun should recoup properly and not rush things, 6 months is perfect recovery then like 2-3 months training starting slow and then when hes not tentative of his knee speed up but, this guy says that in 6 months he could fight hes crazy thats like only 2-3 months recovery , I dont think so… hell he should just hold up until december or january just to make sure. theres plenty of fighters and fights that can be made with Shogun.
Its so funny to see some people say that Shogun was on roids and he would get knocked out by Chuck because he cant use his soccer kicks anymore. Its as if your saying his BJJ and Muay Thai never played a part in any of his victories. If he was on roids please show me the evidence instead of everyone saying hes on them. Hes been tested twice before in the US and both times he was clean and beat tough opponents in Randleman and Overeem and looked just as big. The only reason he didnt look that good heading into the Forrest fight was because he was carrying an injury. You haters really do need to check up on the facts.
why are people saying that pride fighter were on roids have they been any probe have they anounce any fighter that fouth from pride and now fight for the ufc that convicted with roids i dint think so in the other hand there have been ufc fighter convicted
Anyone who has done steroids wouldn’t hesitate for a second to say they GREATLY increase your performance. Both physicaly and mentally (they make you feel invicible). Steroids are used in almost all sports that are regulated. Pride wasn’t regulated. It’s naive to think that fighters are exempt, when they are the ones who would BENEFIT the most by using steriods. Anyone who thinks there wasn’t much steriod use in Pride is fooling themselves. As soon as a few guy start using steriods, you either juice up or get LEFT BEHIND.
[quote comment=”396684″]Like everyone has stated he needs to come back at 100%. Even though I want to see him back ASAP, I don’t want him to rush and injure himself again, this would be a last blow and I don’t think even his fans would continue to follow behind him. He needs to fight healthy period, and when he does, you TUF noobs roidrummor queens shogun haters will be amazed by his talent and become his supporters. It will happen, mark my words :)[/quote]
Linx: Good stuff! All the UFC only fans, will jump right on this guys bandwagon as soon as they see him fight when healthy.
That Brazilian dude that Fought Forrest was a crippled imposter.
That was not the shogun who’s career I have followed. The UFC fed Forrest a crippled Shogun stunt double to get Forrest a win so they can give him a title shot (he doesnt deserve) because Forrest is popular and it would be a big $ draw for the UFC. This was a big conspiracy by the UFC.
Forrest-Gate!!!!! I aint buying it!
Shogun’s camp said he would be back as early as UFC 88
I never said anything bad about him…I just said it would be better for him to be at 185…He is like Rich Franklin was when he first got to the UFC…He will realize it is a lot tougher in the UFC than in Pride and I know he can cut down…Could you goofs imagine that Anderson Silva vs. Shogun for the belt…Wandy doesnt have it anymore…Shogun and Henderson are the only people that has a chance of beating him…Not that I am complaining about the Champ…Almeida doesnt have a prayer…Cote will trade with him (IE. Leben)…Rivera needs to fight Franklin again which I thought was a great fight a few years ago…Franklin cannot beat this guy…Marquardt he is afraid to get punched…Bisping still needs to prove his keep there since he hasnt fought in that division…
sep is way to early for back to back acl reconstructions, almost any pro athlete would take a year to recoup, 8 months is pushing it for one acl reconstruction let alone 2 back to back. i hope he takes the proper time and can come back as good as he was before that alone will be hard with that type of injury.
[quote comment=”396475″][quote comment=”396242″]He’s yet to test the Light Heavyweight waters…give em a chance.[/quote]
[quote comment=”396235″]He needs to go to 185!…Cause he cant hang at 205 without any roids!…[/quote]you
He already destroyed alot of top competition in his weight class he loses 1 fight and everybody turns against him know your history hes only 25 and hes still on top!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]
Sorry, he’s yet to test UFC waters. One fight isn’t enough to judge a fighter. People have already discounted Wanderlei after an amazing fight with Liddell. One fight against Forrest Griffin and everybody says Shogun sucks. Give him a chance is what I’m saying. Jesus!
In my opinion, perfect comeback fight for him = Stephan Bonnar
[quote comment=”396964″]sep is way to early for back to back acl reconstructions, almost any pro athlete would take a year to recoup, 8 months is pushing it for one acl reconstruction let alone 2 back to back. i hope he takes the proper time and can come back as good as he was before that alone will be hard with that type of injury.[/quote]
o for sure.. theres a couple guys at my work with torn acl and they’re wobbling around with knee braces. i’m giving them chairs to sit on in meetings and stuff like that. 8 months is too early. and itll never get back to 100%. its career ending for a lot of pro atheletes. i hate to say it but it might be all downhill for shogun - i hope not. dropping to 185 might not be a bad idea. there are a lot of guys in that division they could give him to tune up and choke out.
[quote comment=”397015″][quote comment=”396475″][quote comment=”396242″]He’s yet to test the Light Heavyweight waters…give em a chance.[/quote]
[quote comment=”396235″]He needs to go to 185!…Cause he cant hang at 205 without any roids!…[/quote]you
He already destroyed alot of top competition in his weight class he loses 1 fight and everybody turns against him know your history hes only 25 and hes still on top!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]
Sorry, he’s yet to test UFC waters. One fight isn’t enough to judge a fighter. People have already discounted Wanderlei after an amazing fight with Liddell. One fight against Forrest Griffin and everybody says Shogun sucks. Give him a chance is what I’m saying. Jesus!
In my opinion, perfect comeback fight for him = Stephan Bonnar[/quote]
Thas what i said but some one took that part of the quote out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Trust me, I by far am no TUF fan. I actually didn’t even know what TUF stood for till a few days ago. (I have no cable). (BTW to know that the fighters for that show are prescreened by the network before they can be chosen is sincerely wack and a disgrace to MMA). I have followed Pride the UFC and other MMA organizations for years now and believe many have had thier stand out moments and fighters. Sherk and Sylvia were both on the juice and they fight here in the States where they test for it and they both won championships. I’ve known of Shogun for 2 years now and have always been very impressed by his performance but can’t discount the fact that Shogun, Wanderlei, and Cro Cop did all look much smaller in the UFC than in Pride. Maybe they just didnt train since Pride was shut down or maybe…. Its not that crazy a theory if they dont test in Japan.
Why then have all three of them performed so badly in the UFC. I certainly do not believe the UFC fighters are superior…..Come on, Forest against Shogun…..I bet Shogun was off the Juice and Forrest was on it!!!!!!Cro Cop to Gonzaga and Kongo!!!!Come on…..and Wanderlie to Hendo by knock out when Pride was in Nevada, and a Chuck Liddell loss. (Again maybe Chuck was juiced up and Wanderlie wasn’t) These ARE poor performances, not the fighters I have always looked forward to watching….
On a side note, it doesnt seem as though Fedor or Nog were on the juice though. They both looked gased in thier fights by the second round. By the end of the first round of beating down Herring, Fedor is swept because he is tired. Not a sign of a juicer!!!! I am only entertaining possibilities, not making accusations……
I heard that Dana arranged to have a REAL surgeon do the operation on Rua this time. Let’s hope so. ACL tears can be career-ending injuries if they aren’t treated correctly. Hopefully, Shogun can come back in September and dominate again.
I hope Shogun was operated on by Dr. James Andrews, one of, if not the best knee surgeon in the world based in Alabama.
He better get his ass into shape though, as he looked a little soft last time. If he can do that, he has a big future ahead of him. He’s only 25. To put that into perspective, GSP is 26 year old.
I hope he doesn’t become like Vitor though and burn out before 30.
[quote comment=”397243″]I hope Shogun was operated on by Dr. James Andrews, one of, if not the best knee surgeon in the world based in Alabama.
He better get his ass into shape though, as he looked a little soft last time. If he can do that, he has a big future ahead of him. He’s only 25. To put that into perspective, GSP is 26 year old.
I hope he doesn’t become like Vitor though and burn out before 30.[/quote]
He is a very famous Surgeon for athletes. I am from Philly, and Donovan McNabb has got his # on speed dial!
does any one no if shogun is really a fudge packer….
it would be nice to see liddell ground game against a tru Brazilian JJ guy
and the only reason Shogun didnt look like he looked in pride is because b4 the forrest fight he was nursing that ACL injury and coulnt do any cardio or anything that had to do with legs…. so he looked out of shape
[quote comment=”396749″][quote comment=”396632″]Shogun, Wanderlei, and Cro Cop without a doubt looked way smaller in the UFC than in Pride. Steroids didn’t even occur to me until I read Kongo’s remarks. Pride was a great show that produced incredible fighters but if they didn’t test for steroids some fighters are bound to use “Performance enhancing Drugs”. I dont accuse any of these fighters of using them but it does make you wonder. BTW when you do get off the juice you are much more prone to injuries. Ask Sylvia after the Mir fight. ‘SNAP’ Randy is Hardcore but I also have my suspicions………[/quote]
I don’t think for a second that Randy would use roids…
Get well hogun…god dammit i was looking forward to that fight…Would have made the card![/quote]
Kongo, who looks like a colored version of conan the barbarian and you’re talking about pride fighters???
That really sucks he’s injured again probably didnt take enuff time to heal.I Hate how everybody now thinks Forrest Gump is some kinda ninja cuz he beat Shogun who couldnt even train at full speed for that fight cuz of the knee.All I remember is me an my boys rollin after Keith the Queen a Mean cleaned his timepiece and he ran, Ran out the arena cryin.Just watch the vid on it.I cant believe the dude would show his goofy mug in public after havin his card pulled like that!Oh well Rampage will help any nonbelievers soon enuff.And to think Shogun friggin owned Quinten in Pride!Fedor for President!
it’s cool that ufc helped him.
do they help all fighters in this high risk profession - or just their big investments ? - i have to ask …
Roids or no I think Shogun needs to take plenty of time off to heal and train. I would love to see him drop down to 185 and take on the Spider, ’cause it’s looking like Silva is running out of legit competitors. Wanderlei should cut the weight too.