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	<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 18:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this fight came down to an arm break in round 1... I thought frank would have finished cung le in round 4 and 5 if it wasn't for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this fight came down to an arm break in round 1&#8230; I thought frank would have finished cung le in round 4 and 5 if it wasn&#8217;t for that.</p>
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		<title>By: panama</title>
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		<dc:creator>panama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 23:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cung is clearly the superior stand-up fighter. frank has come a long way since his pancrase days, though. 
frank would've won if it went to the ground-but it didn't.
also, cung has an INCREDIBLE chin. to all the people who doubt this, please refer to the end of the third round when frank just unleashed on cung with two HUGE elbows to cung's jaw. it wasn't enough to stop him and cung regrouped and won the fight.

Great fight from two true warriors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cung is clearly the superior stand-up fighter. frank has come a long way since his pancrase days, though.<br />
frank would&#8217;ve won if it went to the ground-but it didn&#8217;t.<br />
also, cung has an INCREDIBLE chin. to all the people who doubt this, please refer to the end of the third round when frank just unleashed on cung with two HUGE elbows to cung&#8217;s jaw. it wasn&#8217;t enough to stop him and cung regrouped and won the fight.</p>
<p>Great fight from two true warriors.</p>
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		<title>By: go fish</title>
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		<dc:creator>go fish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 02:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank  best IS  standing fight , he is very good on  ground fight.
 Le is one of the best standing fight out there,  also he is the best takedown ,Le on ground?
 what i saw Frank had a good game plan ,he try to take Cung on ground but did not work so he    stay with his best {stand} ,Cung is better stand fighter .
  
    GOOD FIGHT AND LOVE IT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank  best IS  standing fight , he is very good on  ground fight.<br />
 Le is one of the best standing fight out there,  also he is the best takedown ,Le on ground?<br />
 what i saw Frank had a good game plan ,he try to take Cung on ground but did not work so he    stay with his best {stand} ,Cung is better stand fighter .</p>
<p>    GOOD FIGHT AND LOVE IT</p>
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		<title>By: DaGrizzlyBear</title>
		<link>http://mmamania.com/2008/03/30/cung-le-frank-shamrock-fight-came-down-to-heart-soul-and-desire-video/#comment-395656</link>
		<dc:creator>DaGrizzlyBear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone care?  Anyone with the last name of Shamrock should do the world a favor and off themselves...or at the very least leave MMA and stop taking away space that could be used for news about fighters that are relevant...for the love of GOD...no more Fedor or Shamrock posts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone care?  Anyone with the last name of Shamrock should do the world a favor and off themselves&#8230;or at the very least leave MMA and stop taking away space that could be used for news about fighters that are relevant&#8230;for the love of GOD&#8230;no more Fedor or Shamrock posts</p>
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		<title>By: kitsunex</title>
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		<dc:creator>kitsunex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="395324"][quote comment="394726"]Just saw the fight, and i'd have to say Le isnt quick all he's cracked up to be. Shamrock did very well in there, I did not think he was getting beat as bad as teh judges were saying, and I hate Shamrock more then anybody so im not jsut saying that.

He hurt Le more then Le hurt him until that perfect angle that ended up breaking Frank's arm, if you throw enough, like le, your pound to throw the perfect one eventually.

Like many have mentioned, Frank did not engage NEARLY enough, he stayed way to far to the outside, stayed in the perfect spot for Le. The thing that baffles me the most about why Frank didnt engage more often up front and aggresively is after the second round when Frank had taken everything Le threw at him and didnt really rock him once, Frank should have slowly opened up more and more, instead of staying a perfect distance, adn relativly non-moving target

I think Anderson would kill this guy so quick, it would be a huge disappiontment.[/quote]

Sounds like you saw a pixelated replay and not live.  Trust me, Le did WAY MORE damage throughout the fight, Shamrock is tough as nails for sure, and yes Shamrock rocked Le with the straight right, one of the reasons Shamrock "stayed" in the perfect spot was Le's use of front and side kicks like a jab in keeping Shammy from getting inside, attempting takedowns, etc...

Yes Anderson would probably win but right now this is shaping up to being a good fight in the near future, I would rahter see this than a boxing match with Silva and RJJ...[/quote]


thats for sure! by the end of the 3rd round, frank's face was black and blue, his chest and abs were bright red, bordering on purple and you could tell his arm was messed up because it was also swollen and red. i'm sure you could miss a lot of that watching it online or on regular TV. i was watching it in HD, so all his injuries were quite clear on my screen.

a buddy of mine that came over and was hoping frank would win even commented on how beat up Frank was by the end of that third round. Le just punished him. Yeah frank rocked Le, but by the end of the third he had pretty much recovered from the punch, as was shown by him throwing some nice kicks at teh bell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment=&#8221;395324&#8243;][quote comment=&#8221;394726&#8243;]Just saw the fight, and i&#8217;d have to say Le isnt quick all he&#8217;s cracked up to be. Shamrock did very well in there, I did not think he was getting beat as bad as teh judges were saying, and I hate Shamrock more then anybody so im not jsut saying that.</p>
<p>He hurt Le more then Le hurt him until that perfect angle that ended up breaking Frank&#8217;s arm, if you throw enough, like le, your pound to throw the perfect one eventually.</p>
<p>Like many have mentioned, Frank did not engage NEARLY enough, he stayed way to far to the outside, stayed in the perfect spot for Le. The thing that baffles me the most about why Frank didnt engage more often up front and aggresively is after the second round when Frank had taken everything Le threw at him and didnt really rock him once, Frank should have slowly opened up more and more, instead of staying a perfect distance, adn relativly non-moving target</p>
<p>I think Anderson would kill this guy so quick, it would be a huge disappiontment.[/quote]</p>
<p>Sounds like you saw a pixelated replay and not live.  Trust me, Le did WAY MORE damage throughout the fight, Shamrock is tough as nails for sure, and yes Shamrock rocked Le with the straight right, one of the reasons Shamrock &#8220;stayed&#8221; in the perfect spot was Le&#8217;s use of front and side kicks like a jab in keeping Shammy from getting inside, attempting takedowns, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Yes Anderson would probably win but right now this is shaping up to being a good fight in the near future, I would rahter see this than a boxing match with Silva and RJJ&#8230;[/quote]</p>
<p>thats for sure! by the end of the 3rd round, frank&#8217;s face was black and blue, his chest and abs were bright red, bordering on purple and you could tell his arm was messed up because it was also swollen and red. i&#8217;m sure you could miss a lot of that watching it online or on regular TV. i was watching it in HD, so all his injuries were quite clear on my screen.</p>
<p>a buddy of mine that came over and was hoping frank would win even commented on how beat up Frank was by the end of that third round. Le just punished him. Yeah frank rocked Le, but by the end of the third he had pretty much recovered from the punch, as was shown by him throwing some nice kicks at teh bell.</p>
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		<title>By: SaVaGe</title>
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		<dc:creator>SaVaGe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not a FS fan. He is brash and disrespectful to fighters. Baroni is a one-dimensional joke, but anyone approve of the way FS pushed and kicked him away after choking him unconscious?  He did show some respect after this fight giving props to Le as "the better man" after breaking his cue stick. Still, Le didnt really beat FS as much as FS beat himself by standing the whole time. FS should have taken to the ground for an easy win. Le never stuffed any takedowns, FS never attempted any and Le turned down the only FS invitation to go to the ground. FS showed his worth standing early and should have showed Le and everyone else that he is a better, well-rounded fighter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a FS fan. He is brash and disrespectful to fighters. Baroni is a one-dimensional joke, but anyone approve of the way FS pushed and kicked him away after choking him unconscious?  He did show some respect after this fight giving props to Le as &#8220;the better man&#8221; after breaking his cue stick. Still, Le didnt really beat FS as much as FS beat himself by standing the whole time. FS should have taken to the ground for an easy win. Le never stuffed any takedowns, FS never attempted any and Le turned down the only FS invitation to go to the ground. FS showed his worth standing early and should have showed Le and everyone else that he is a better, well-rounded fighter.</p>
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		<title>By: CageFightingKip</title>
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		<dc:creator>CageFightingKip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Lawler or Misaki will be next for Le, can't wait...

concerning Sham and Le's antics during the fight...

It was expected on my end knowing their history, sparring partners, etc. they have a ton of mutual respect for each other and that showed in their sportsmanship ans well as the antics (high fives, allowing each other to get up, etc)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Lawler or Misaki will be next for Le, can&#8217;t wait&#8230;</p>
<p>concerning Sham and Le&#8217;s antics during the fight&#8230;</p>
<p>It was expected on my end knowing their history, sparring partners, etc. they have a ton of mutual respect for each other and that showed in their sportsmanship ans well as the antics (high fives, allowing each other to get up, etc)</p>
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		<title>By: CageFightingKip</title>
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		<dc:creator>CageFightingKip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="394726"]Just saw the fight, and i'd have to say Le isnt quick all he's cracked up to be. Shamrock did very well in there, I did not think he was getting beat as bad as teh judges were saying, and I hate Shamrock more then anybody so im not jsut saying that.

He hurt Le more then Le hurt him until that perfect angle that ended up breaking Frank's arm, if you throw enough, like le, your pound to throw the perfect one eventually.

Like many have mentioned, Frank did not engage NEARLY enough, he stayed way to far to the outside, stayed in the perfect spot for Le. The thing that baffles me the most about why Frank didnt engage more often up front and aggresively is after the second round when Frank had taken everything Le threw at him and didnt really rock him once, Frank should have slowly opened up more and more, instead of staying a perfect distance, adn relativly non-moving target

I think Anderson would kill this guy so quick, it would be a huge disappiontment.[/quote]


Sounds like you saw a pixelated replay and not live.  Trust me, Le did WAY MORE damage throughout the fight, Shamrock is tough as nails for sure, and yes Shamrock rocked Le with the straight right, one of the reasons Shamrock "stayed" in the perfect spot was Le's use of front and side kicks like a jab in keeping Shammy from getting inside, attempting takedowns, etc...

Yes Anderson would probably win but right now this is shaping up to being a good fight in the near future, I would rahter see this than a boxing match with Silva and RJJ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment=&#8221;394726&#8243;]Just saw the fight, and i&#8217;d have to say Le isnt quick all he&#8217;s cracked up to be. Shamrock did very well in there, I did not think he was getting beat as bad as teh judges were saying, and I hate Shamrock more then anybody so im not jsut saying that.</p>
<p>He hurt Le more then Le hurt him until that perfect angle that ended up breaking Frank&#8217;s arm, if you throw enough, like le, your pound to throw the perfect one eventually.</p>
<p>Like many have mentioned, Frank did not engage NEARLY enough, he stayed way to far to the outside, stayed in the perfect spot for Le. The thing that baffles me the most about why Frank didnt engage more often up front and aggresively is after the second round when Frank had taken everything Le threw at him and didnt really rock him once, Frank should have slowly opened up more and more, instead of staying a perfect distance, adn relativly non-moving target</p>
<p>I think Anderson would kill this guy so quick, it would be a huge disappiontment.[/quote]</p>
<p>Sounds like you saw a pixelated replay and not live.  Trust me, Le did WAY MORE damage throughout the fight, Shamrock is tough as nails for sure, and yes Shamrock rocked Le with the straight right, one of the reasons Shamrock &#8220;stayed&#8221; in the perfect spot was Le&#8217;s use of front and side kicks like a jab in keeping Shammy from getting inside, attempting takedowns, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Yes Anderson would probably win but right now this is shaping up to being a good fight in the near future, I would rahter see this than a boxing match with Silva and RJJ&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Farsot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Farsot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="395067"]Frank is as Frank does. He's a jerk and only wanted to prove a point...that he could bang with Le. I really don't think he cared whether he won or not. Frank is good enough on the ground that he could have taken Le down and tapped him out, but he didn't want to do that. He does these things for the "good of the sport" and the "good of the crowd" no matter what his W-L record may be.

Alan[/quote]

That's why I like Frank, he promotes the sport and the entertainment of it, he's all about the fans and the show or the "spectacle" if you will.

Entertaining fight!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment=&#8221;395067&#8243;]Frank is as Frank does. He&#8217;s a jerk and only wanted to prove a point&#8230;that he could bang with Le. I really don&#8217;t think he cared whether he won or not. Frank is good enough on the ground that he could have taken Le down and tapped him out, but he didn&#8217;t want to do that. He does these things for the &#8220;good of the sport&#8221; and the &#8220;good of the crowd&#8221; no matter what his W-L record may be.</p>
<p>Alan[/quote]</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I like Frank, he promotes the sport and the entertainment of it, he&#8217;s all about the fans and the show or the &#8220;spectacle&#8221; if you will.</p>
<p>Entertaining fight!</p>
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		<title>By: nate diaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>nate diaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i see shamrock winning the rematch by choke

wasnt impressed by the way shamrock was fighting was almost like watching wwe mma fighters should never be playing around like that

would love to see cung le tested against robbie lawler and in all honesty the fight has to happen at some point due to a lack of depth in the division</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i see shamrock winning the rematch by choke</p>
<p>wasnt impressed by the way shamrock was fighting was almost like watching wwe mma fighters should never be playing around like that</p>
<p>would love to see cung le tested against robbie lawler and in all honesty the fight has to happen at some point due to a lack of depth in the division</p>
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