Comments on: Strikeforce: ‘Shamrock vs. Cung Le’ results and LIVE fight commentary http://mmamania.com/2008/03/29/strikeforce-shamrock-vs-cung-le-results-and-live-fight-commentary/ UFC news, event schedules, fight analysis, Octagon predictions, UFC fighters and MMA thoughts Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:39:25 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: kama kaze http://mmamania.com/2008/03/29/strikeforce-shamrock-vs-cung-le-results-and-live-fight-commentary/comment-page-3/#comment-395256 kama kaze Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:18:12 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/29/strikeforce-shamrock-vs-cung-le-results-and-live-fight-commentary/#comment-395256 Melendez came through AGAIN and won me some change!! Too bad the odds were 650 !!! O my goodness!! can it get any steeper?! GNP all day!! YEA!! Melendez came through AGAIN and won me some change!! Too bad the odds were 650 !!! O my goodness!! can it get any steeper?! GNP all day!! YEA!!

]]> By: joe handley http://mmamania.com/2008/03/29/strikeforce-shamrock-vs-cung-le-results-and-live-fight-commentary/comment-page-3/#comment-394297 joe handley Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:59:43 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/29/strikeforce-shamrock-vs-cung-le-results-and-live-fight-commentary/#comment-394297 [quote comment="394295"][quote comment="393633"]Frank by sub 2nd!!!!!![/quote] WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED TO FRANK'S ARM?[/quote] [quote comment="394295"][quote comment="393633"]Frank by sub 2nd!!!!!![/quote]
WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED TO FRANK’S ARM?[/quote]

]]> By: joe handley http://mmamania.com/2008/03/29/strikeforce-shamrock-vs-cung-le-results-and-live-fight-commentary/comment-page-3/#comment-394295 joe handley Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:57:29 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/29/strikeforce-shamrock-vs-cung-le-results-and-live-fight-commentary/#comment-394295 [quote comment="393633"]Frank by sub 2nd!!!!!![/quote] WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED TO FRANK'S ARM? [quote comment="393633"]Frank by sub 2nd!!!!!![/quote]
WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED TO FRANK’S ARM?

]]> By: efisher http://mmamania.com/2008/03/29/strikeforce-shamrock-vs-cung-le-results-and-live-fight-commentary/comment-page-3/#comment-394274 efisher Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:41:51 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/29/strikeforce-shamrock-vs-cung-le-results-and-live-fight-commentary/#comment-394274 [quote comment="393788"][quote comment="393783"]Great fight. MMA fans gotta give Le all the credit. His style completely baffled Frank in this fight. Many people are saying that Frank should have taken him to the ground, but I think Le's takedown defense is way underestimated. He has great balance, a low center of gravity and lots of strength. He is already one of the top ten or fifteen 185lb fighters in MMA already after only 6 fights. I have seen him fight 15-20 times now, and in virtually every fight his opponets lose their will to compete at some point in the fight. Tonight was no different, Shamrock was mentally defeated by Le's non-stop attacks and confusing style. [quote post="5571"]Heres to watching the next MMA superstar[/quote] ; I for one will not be missing any Cung Le fights in the future. WAR LE![/quote] A superstar with no ground game? It's kinda funny. After almost every card people have kneejerk reactions to the quality of the card etc.[/quote] It is not a knee jerk reaction. Cung Le has been a professional fighter for over 15 years, (San Shou has MMA elements, and he was the best in the world there) has an MMA record now of 6-0 w/all 6 wins by KO/TKO. He just beat one of the top 10 or 15 guys in a weight division one over where he should be fighting. Absolutely not knee jerk reaction. [quote comment="393788"][quote comment="393783"]Great fight. MMA fans gotta give Le all the credit. His style completely baffled Frank in this fight. Many people are saying that Frank should have taken him to the ground, but I think Le’s takedown defense is way underestimated. He has great balance, a low center of gravity and lots of strength. He is already one of the top ten or fifteen 185lb fighters in MMA already after only 6 fights. I have seen him fight 15-20 times now, and in virtually every fight his opponets lose their will to compete at some point in the fight. Tonight was no different, Shamrock was mentally defeated by Le’s non-stop attacks and confusing style. [quote post="5571"]Heres to watching the next MMA superstar[/quote]
; I for one will not be missing any Cung Le fights in the future. WAR LE![/quote]

A superstar with no ground game? It’s kinda funny. After almost every card people have kneejerk reactions to the quality of the card etc.[/quote]

It is not a knee jerk reaction. Cung Le has been a professional fighter for over 15 years, (San Shou has MMA elements, and he was the best in the world there) has an MMA record now of 6-0 w/all 6 wins by KO/TKO. He just beat one of the top 10 or 15 guys in a weight division one over where he should be fighting. Absolutely not knee jerk reaction.

]]> By: Bill http://mmamania.com/2008/03/29/strikeforce-shamrock-vs-cung-le-results-and-live-fight-commentary/comment-page-3/#comment-394150 Bill Sun, 30 Mar 2008 14:40:19 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/29/strikeforce-shamrock-vs-cung-le-results-and-live-fight-commentary/#comment-394150 Ken Shamrock is a joke! Ken Shamrock is a joke!

]]> By: john http://mmamania.com/2008/03/29/strikeforce-shamrock-vs-cung-le-results-and-live-fight-commentary/comment-page-3/#comment-394135 john Sun, 30 Mar 2008 14:15:14 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/29/strikeforce-shamrock-vs-cung-le-results-and-live-fight-commentary/#comment-394135 [quote comment="393770"]Ben & Rob, obviously you guys are die hard fans of Frank Shamrock and I'm sorry to reign on your parade but he fought a stupid fight. This is mixed martial arts, not ultimate kick boxing. He chose to stand with a superior striker and refused to take Cung Le down because in his pre-fight interviews, he said that Cung would be the one to wimp out and try to take the fight to the ground. Face it. Frank's ego got the best of him. His ground skills are superior to Cung's yet he chose to stand and bang and suffered the consequences. The best pound for pound fighters are well rounded in all areas. Frank will never be one until he puts his ego aside and decides to exploit his opponent's weaknesses. I don't know the extent of the damages to his arm but I can tell you this: Randy sustained a broken arm when kicked by Gonzaga. Frank Mir broke Tim Sylvia's arm and Tim was still ready, willing, and able to continue. Herb Dean had to stop that fight! On the other hand, Frank Shamrock breaks his arm and suddenly can't continue. The guy doesn't belong in the UFC FOR A REASON. His ego was hurt because he was in a losing battle. Instead of risking a KO loss to Cung Le, he pussed out by claiming that his arm hurt. I know it hurts your feelings but sometimes the truth is hard to swallow.[/quote] Jake: I wont disagree with any of that! [quote comment="393770"]Ben & Rob, obviously you guys are die hard fans of Frank Shamrock and I’m sorry to reign on your parade but he fought a stupid fight. This is mixed martial arts, not ultimate kick boxing. He chose to stand with a superior striker and refused to take Cung Le down because in his pre-fight interviews, he said that Cung would be the one to wimp out and try to take the fight to the ground.

Face it. Frank’s ego got the best of him. His ground skills are superior to Cung’s yet he chose to stand and bang and suffered the consequences.

The best pound for pound fighters are well rounded in all areas. Frank will never be one until he puts his ego aside and decides to exploit his opponent’s weaknesses.

I don’t know the extent of the damages to his arm but I can tell you this: Randy sustained a broken arm when kicked by Gonzaga. Frank Mir broke Tim Sylvia’s arm and Tim was still ready, willing, and able to continue. Herb Dean had to stop that fight! On the other hand, Frank Shamrock breaks his arm and suddenly can’t continue.

The guy doesn’t belong in the UFC FOR A REASON. His ego was hurt because he was in a losing battle. Instead of risking a KO loss to Cung Le, he pussed out by claiming that his arm hurt.

I know it hurts your feelings but sometimes the truth is hard to swallow.[/quote]

Jake: I wont disagree with any of that!

]]> By: RobH86 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/29/strikeforce-shamrock-vs-cung-le-results-and-live-fight-commentary/comment-page-3/#comment-393988 RobH86 Sun, 30 Mar 2008 11:40:47 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/29/strikeforce-shamrock-vs-cung-le-results-and-live-fight-commentary/#comment-393988 [quote comment="393797"][quote comment="393789"][quote post="5571"]Tim Sylvia is a mongoloid who probably feels no pain, so he shouldn't even be mentioned here. [/quote] He screamed when Mir had him in a heel hook.[/quote] I meant AA, excuse me.[/quote] I never laughed so hard. [quote comment="393797"][quote comment="393789"][quote post="5571"]Tim Sylvia is a mongoloid who probably feels no pain, so he shouldn’t even be mentioned here. [/quote]

He screamed when Mir had him in a heel hook.[/quote]

I meant AA, excuse me.[/quote]

I never laughed so hard.

]]> By: JV http://mmamania.com/2008/03/29/strikeforce-shamrock-vs-cung-le-results-and-live-fight-commentary/comment-page-3/#comment-393837 JV Sun, 30 Mar 2008 07:23:52 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/29/strikeforce-shamrock-vs-cung-le-results-and-live-fight-commentary/#comment-393837 [quote comment="393776"]cung vs frank.. thought to be a fix.. check this out its interesting to say the least.. http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=733703[/quote] Well you know Gary Shaw is or was a boxing promoter and we all know what happens in boxing. Both fighters have big followings and a rematch would give them another good card. [quote comment="393776"]cung vs frank.. thought to be a fix.. check this out its interesting to say the least..
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=733703/quote

Well you know Gary Shaw is or was a boxing promoter and we all know what happens in boxing. Both fighters have big followings and a rematch would give them another good card.

]]> By: Chris http://mmamania.com/2008/03/29/strikeforce-shamrock-vs-cung-le-results-and-live-fight-commentary/comment-page-3/#comment-393816 Chris Sun, 30 Mar 2008 05:57:26 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/29/strikeforce-shamrock-vs-cung-le-results-and-live-fight-commentary/#comment-393816 Gilbert Melendez was actually kinda boring for me. content to sit in guard and hammerfist. effective, hes a bad ass and all...but at least sean sherk attempts to improve his position and shows some bjj top control. that was a mini-Kerr. Gilbert Melendez was actually kinda boring for me. content to sit in guard and hammerfist. effective, hes a bad ass and all…but at least sean sherk attempts to improve his position and shows some bjj top control. that was a mini-Kerr.

]]> By: Ben! http://mmamania.com/2008/03/29/strikeforce-shamrock-vs-cung-le-results-and-live-fight-commentary/comment-page-3/#comment-393799 Ben! Sun, 30 Mar 2008 05:02:20 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/29/strikeforce-shamrock-vs-cung-le-results-and-live-fight-commentary/#comment-393799 Uh, I was joking. Uh, I was joking.

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