first hit, woot! hey i think Wandi is the man, he has some heart!

Rampage vs. Wand III will happen. When, who knows, but it will. And I think Rampage will take it this time.

“i don’t know if you’ve been keeping up with current events, but we just got our asses kicked”-aliens

lol, sorry it just came to mind.. rampage you got your ass whooped, twice.. it might be a different story in the octagon, but damn those were thorough beatdowns… rampage is funny as hell, i’ll give him that… it would be nice to see him get a win against silva, but it would be kind of cool to see rampage get handed another loss…

If Jackson hasn’t learned to defend the muay thai clich then there’s no sense in a third match up. big risk for jackson considering wandy hasn’t exactly been on a tear lately.

I’m a big rampage fan though, and i’d love to see him fight wandy and win.

tough words from a guy with 2 KO losses to him… silva will win with knees in the trilogy.

I would love to see silva win a couple of fights just because i want to see him fight rampage once again and i tend to side with rampages allegations except the part with chuck liddell i dont think chuck had the refs on his side he was just that much better than his opposition.

I THINK HE IS NOT EXAGERATE SOME OF THE FIGHTS THEY GIVE TO WANDY MAYBE HALF OF THEM WHERE TOOOO EASY,AND OTHER HE JUST….ROIDS BOYS PERIOD,JUST ROIDS….

i thought Silva was the “ass murderer” the way he was talking about how he wanted to BLEEP Chuck.

I definitely think the Japanese organizations do people dirty to favor their stars and Japanese fighters. I also think Gilbert Melendez beat Ishida at the new years eve show but they were going to call it for Ishida if it was at all close.

Jackson would beat him if they fought again.

[quote comment=”391672″]I would love to see silva win a couple of fights just because i want to see him fight rampage once again and i tend to side with rampages allegations except the part with chuck liddell i dont think chuck had the refs on his side he was just that much better than his opposition.[/quote]
ye i dont remember chuck getting a standup. he did get a few fence breaks tho. standups are stupid tho! but silva did get alot of help from refs he isnt all that good and they cheated page out of it in the second fight. but with better refs elbows and a cage i think page would kill him

I don’t even wanna get started with this, Wanderlei MURDERED him 2 times in Pride, man it’s still painful to watch.

this sound like he’s still mad about knees to the dome. both fights…HAHA!!! na but seriously.. why is he always talking about pride being rigged? is there more to it? whats the deal wit that?

If Wandi kick Jackson’s ass twice (murdered), and Jackson says Wandi is the “Chump Murderer”, then what does that make Jackson? A chump, by his own words.

What a dumb shit.

Wow… them there are fighting words… hope it happens again.

Hopefully this firers up wandy enough to string some wins together and get a rematch with rampage. I’d love to see the stare down in that fight.

there has to be a rampage/wanderlei III, he needs to stay at lhw and that fight needs to happen…silva vs. silva sounds nice too at mw though, i wonder if they’d fight each other…

Yea whats up with rampage always talking about PRIDE conspiracies he sounds like some hippie that thinks the government is after him. COOCOO COOCOO!!!

What is Rampage talking about? Did the ref take money on the side while Wandy’s knee was in his face or afterwards?

[quote comment=”391735″]Yea whats up with rampage always talking about PRIDE conspiracies he sounds like some hippie that thinks the government is after him. COOCOO COOCOO!!![/quote]

THE SYSTEM!! THE SYSTEM IS AGAINST RAMPAGE!!

jackson is just frustrated,becasuese he’s desperately wants a 3rd match against a guy who made him look p*ssy.

maybe jackson is trying to threw some words onto silva to force silva to stay in LHW & a chance of 3rd match

I use to think Page was just silly, now I think he’s a dumb shit. Silva would beat his ass a third time as well.

We must see Wanderlei/Rampage 3

Shit, Chuck got Rampage because he was champ.

After beating Forrest Griffen into forrest gump,, rampage should be able to pick a fight.

Even if liddell beats evans and machida win, the fans want rampage/silva. Very marketable, and guaranteed to be even better than liddell/ silva.

If by chance silva does win then chuck can fight him again for the belt, hugePPV, blah, blah,etc.

Im a tito fan and wandi cant beat tito sooooo…i dont even think this fight should happen another wast of a ppv when we all know rampage would destroy him.

aaaaaaaaaaaahahahahhaha Chump Murderer!! aaaaahahaha…..lol
lol…lol thats funny

so is Rampage calling himself a chump?

yep wanderlei is the chump murderer… ok rampage he almost killed u twice seriously. and everyone who thinks wand was on roids look at his last fight with dan henderson in las vegas where all the ufc big fights are and the nevada athletic commision tests every fighter whether what mma promotion is there. wand has a lot more muscle is his fight with henderson then liddell and still pass a drug test. the reason wand was some much slimmed down for the liddell fight is that he wanted to me. and seriously like rampage never took anything while in pride where the didn’t test. wanderlei in his prime was the most dominating/devasting fight ever in mma history. and im sure there are a lot of fighters now a days that take HGH because its untestable.

i mean, c’mon… Wanderlei has no problem fighting big dudes like CroCop and Mark Hunt then all of a sudden he moves over to roid-testing-UFC and he’s like, “i think these guys are too big”

WTF?! are you bloody kidding me?????

My money’s on Rampage!!!

Rampage is just still mad that he got his but kicked by Silva. Man i loved those knees that Silva beat him with. Well atleast this time Rampage won’t be hanging out of the ring lol

Wanderlei fighting chumps? He fought at a higher weight class against Crocop and Mark hunt. They fought virtually the same people and he also fought Sakuraba, who choked the shit out of Rampage.

GO SAKURABA!!!

Rampage is a totally different fighter now than he was in PRIDE. Not only that, but his fighting style addapted well with the octagon. I think he would smash Wandy if they went at it again, and win be KO at that.

Lets see. Rampage has 3 of his last wins against quality opponents. Silva has quite possibly the best resume in MMA with wins against legitmate heavyweights with 2 wins against Rampage… im sorry, did i say wins… i meant ASS THRASHINGS. Silva has the biggest balls in MMA. Lidell used to talk about stepping up and facing cro cop, silva did it, TWICE. Rampage complains that sakuraba was his first fight in Pride, and Silva dominated him twice, while Sakuraba was on fire and in his prime.
Stop whining Rampage, enjoy your success, and I would be more worried about Rua becoming completely healthy and dominating you again. ARE YOU WITH ME LADIES??

Whats done is done wanderlei is past his prime but still koed rampage the f@#k out twice just like rampage did to lidell so it wouldnt be such a great victory unless he did it twice. not only that wanderlei lost 3 in a row but to top ranked fighters at the time. Plus he knocked out fugita that has a iron skull dont hate on him and im not even a silva fan but hes already proved him self just like cro cop and fedor. So just quit all that sh!t talking.!!!!!!!!!!!

“Rampage is a totally different fighter now than he was in PRIDE.”

lol, I love fan logic. The guy beats Chuck who he also beat in Pride and now he’s a totally different fighter. His bjj has improved but other than that I’d like to see the evidence that he’s “totally different”. More likely just a cognitive bias of fans because every time a fighter wins a big fight they’re building up a fighter and discounting all their previous losses because of some imagined dramatic improvement. The same in the other direction, when a fighter is in a slump; “they’re done”, or “no the same”, etc, then with a win or a loss blah blah blah is overrated, such and such has dramatically improved, etc. It’s really stupid black and white thinking.

The problem with the MMA is that many fighters barely fight. LHW in UFC is stacked but it will be years before most of the fighters face each other because they only fight 2-3 times a year.

[quote comment=”391892″]Whats done is done wanderlei is past his prime but still koed rampage the f@#k out twice just like rampage did to lidell so it wouldnt be such a great victory unless he did it twice. not only that wanderlei lost 3 in a row but to top ranked fighters at the time. Plus he knocked out fugita that has a iron skull dont hate on him and im not even a silva fan but hes already proved him self just like cro cop and fedor. So just quit all that sh!t talking.!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]

I’m a big fan of the ex Pride crew, but how have Crop Cop and Fedor proved themselves. Cro Cop came over to the US beat Sanchez then got his ass kicked repeatedly and Fedor is running. Fedor’s new tag should be “The Running Man”. I still think Wanderlei has a few good fights left in him though. With him and Bisping coming down to Middle Weight the division will be much stronger and might give Anderson Silva something to think about.

i love you “aa”. truer words were never spoken… well, that whole bible thing also.

Rampage’s comments make no sense. If Wanderlei is the chump murderer, then Rampage is the chump. Simple as that. Even if Wanderlei did somehow have it rigged to be stood up, which I don’t believe he did at all, he still beat the hell out of Rampage, so this just sounds like an ego getting a little too big. I still hope he kills Forrest.

Its disrespectful of Rampage to make such comments. The Silva of yesteryear would beat the Rampage of yesteryear ten times out of ten. Unfortunately, the present day Rampage will beat the present day Silva.

you’ll just get ur face kneed time and time again..stop with the allegations!

That’s uncalled for. I like when fighters speak their minds but I lost some respect for Rampage. Wanderlei has one of the best attitudes and heats in MMA period.

Mr.NC-17, in your opinion who do you think deserved to win the Rasahd/Tito fight? And what do ya mean by a fair draw? I’m curious mang.
You brought it up on a previous thread and I don’t think you ever read the thread again.

Rampage needs to shut his mouth, WAnderlei is training with Xtreme couture for his wrestling to improve because he knows that Jardine is a free win and after that there is a good chance that he will fight either Liddell or more then likely Jackson. All Wanderlei needs is a big win and Jardine is that big win especially considering he beat chuck.

Wanderlei>Jardine
Chuck> Rashad
Thiago>dude hes fighting
This sets up
Rampage vs Wanderlei 3
Chuck Liddell vs JArdine 2
Sets up Machida vs Thiago

Would make the most sense but then again joe silva doesnt always do the shit that makes most sense.

Bisping gonna kill a man!

Rampage is full of it,

How shameless can you be to try and talk shit to the man who embarressed you twice in convincing fashion.

This will be quitons last successful title defense against griffin he wont hold the title for much longer

Rampage jackson has big mouth now that his the champ bitch you got ko 2 bitch

i love rampage..the guys funny as funny can be. that said, i found this equall funny: the number of silvas knees that page ate in this fight:

http://uncutvideo.aol.com/videos/b0d6facc3e593b9ca15efa82c53ff79

thats some serious chump murdering there! would love to see a third fight. this time, i doubt itd end up being as one-sided as that video showed..but still those knees are funny!

The KO that left Rampage hanging between the ropes was one of the greatest KO’s of all time. Unless the ref hit Rampage over the head with a hammer, then I don’t see how the win was not legit.

[quote comment=”391832″]Rampage is a totally different fighter now than he was in PRIDE. Not only that, but his fighting style addapted well with the octagon. I think he would smash Wandy if they went at it again, and win be KO at that.[/quote]

I can’t believe it took me about 20 posts to find someone talking sense! Pride Rampage and UFC Rampage are two completely different people.

Rampage now has a quality camp behind him with the financial backing to train properly.

Rampage would knock Wandy sparko. Yeah yeah ‘knees to the head… knocked out of the ring’ etc…

Don’t care, now, in a cage, Rampage would destroy Wandy.

I agree with his point about the Japanese favouring their heros. Not in the Page Wandy fights so much but whenever Cro Cop got taken down he was stood straight back up because they always wanted that highlight reel knockout.

[quote comment=”391922″]”Rampage is a totally different fighter now than he was in PRIDE.”

lol, I love fan logic. The guy beats Chuck who he also beat in Pride and now he’s a totally different fighter. His bjj has improved but other than that I’d like to see the evidence that he’s “totally different”. More likely just a cognitive bias of fans because every time a fighter wins a big fight they’re building up a fighter and discounting all their previous losses because of some imagined dramatic improvement. The same in the other direction, when a fighter is in a slump; “they’re done”, or “no the same”, etc, then with a win or a loss blah blah blah is overrated, such and such has dramatically improved, etc. It’s really stupid black and white thinking.

The problem with the MMA is that many fighters barely fight. LHW in UFC is stacked but it will be years before most of the fighters face each other because they only fight 2-3 times a year.[/quote]

You make your point very well but i have to disagree. In Pride Page was living on peanuts training with bums.

Now he is in a top camp training with world class strikers and BJJ guys.

To say that this has no relevance is nieve.

[quote comment=”392096″]The KO that left Rampage hanging between the ropes was one of the greatest KO’s of all time. Unless the ref hit Rampage over the head with a hammer, then I don’t see how the win was not legit.[/quote]

WORD!

Very bizarre statement. ha was raped! Twice. KTFO!!!period!
Winning on the ground??? haha. C’mon. It would be the same if Rich Franklin stated that he was “winning the fight on the ground” when he had hes back against the wall when Anderson Silva was beating the crap out of him.

And he should THANK the kind judge that carried hes sorry ass BACK IN TO THE RING efter the KO. hahaha.

Man i hope Forrest kicks his ugly ass. It would be great if Rampage talked a lot of shit ( as he usually does( and then gets knocked out! How can Rampage have fans when he clearly says on different clips that he only fights for money and himself and that he doesnt care about the fans. Sure he is a great fighter, but does that really matter when he doesnt give a f*ck about the fans?

So where is this big announcement from tim silvia he was meant to be making today????

Opie and Anthony is WBCN in BOSTON. WOOOOOOOOOO

I cant believe I missed this on air.

I am surprised nobody has commented on the idea of him dropping down to middle weight and setting up the possibility of a SILVA vs. SILVA fight! Two amazing clinch fighters, both with knees, KO power, and both fighters with the same last NAME, lol. Anyway I think this would be an amazing fight, and as usual I like the Spider to win…

Rampage will be scared when he has to fight Wanderlei again. Rampage is a shit talker, I aint got no respect for that man

Page sounds like a man who REALLY wants the rematch… Maybe hoping to piss Wandi off so he doesn’t drop to MW before Rampage gets his chance…But how far down the line is Wandi from a title shot right now? All factors included….

Rampage is just mad cause silva hurt his feelings when he pushed him inside the pride ring when page called him out. He never got over that. I think the favoritism page was referring to was when he got wandy on the ground in their first fight and wasn’t going anywhere so the ref stood them up because of non-activity (and issued wandy a yellow card which is 20% off the purse plus a point off in pride, so I don’t know how that favored silva?). Page is just being a soared loser. He should’ve just said it would be a different story today. Wandy is no longer in his prime and is no longer with CB, while page is with a better camp, I’d love to see a wandy vs rampage III and frankly I think wandy would give him a third loss in the trilogy IMO.

This thing with pride favoring their stars is BS too, I watched almost all pride events and can’t complain about the refs. In fact I like the refs in Pride way more than those in the UFC. Wandy fought sakuraba when saku was the MW star and there was no favoritism for saku. He fought saku two more times and saku was still the fan favorite, and no different outcome. Page is the only one who bad mouths Pride come to think about it, how come no other athlete is doing that? Got to ask ourselves the obvious questions sometimes.

[quote post=”5544″]If Wandi kick Jackson’s ass twice (murdered), and Jackson says Wandi is the “Chump Murderer”, then what does that make Jackson? A chump, by his own words.
What a dumb shit. [/quote]

Totally agree. And for those people who also alleged that Silva was on roids when he was in pride thats why he could beat Rampage, remember Rampage was also a PRIDE FIGHTER, so was probably also on the juice. Silva has proved himself much more than Rampage has. If hes calling Arona, Henderson, Crocop, Sakuraba and himself chumps then there really is something wrong with his thought process. Silva doesnt backdown from anyone thats why he deserves respect. Rampage is an ass for saying something that is completely contradictory.

BTW that was a typo, in Pride they take 10% off from the purse for the yellow card.

[quote post=”5544″]Page sounds like a man who REALLY wants the rematch… Maybe hoping to piss Wandi off so he doesn’t drop to MW before Rampage gets his chance…But how far down the line is Wandi from a title shot right now? All factors included…. [/quote]

I think if he beats Jardine he will be right up there again only for the fact that Chuck lost to Jardine. Maybe Silva and Rampage will happen if Forrest beats Rampage too.

[quote comment=”392011″]Rampage needs to shut his mouth, WAnderlei is training with Xtreme couture for his wrestling to improve because he knows that Jardine is a free win and after that there is a good chance that he will fight either Liddell or more then likely Jackson. All Wanderlei needs is a big win and Jardine is that big win especially considering he beat chuck.

Wanderlei>Jardine
Chuck> Rashad
Thiago>dude hes fighting
This sets up
Rampage vs Wanderlei 3
Chuck Liddell vs JArdine 2
Sets up Machida vs Thiago

Would make the most sense but then again joe silva doesnt always do the shit that makes most sense.[/quote]

No way will they give Wandy a shot at Rampage after just one win in the UFC. Who knows though maybe they give him Forrest if he loses to Rampage. I think that would be an interesting fight.

But I do like the idea of Machida vs Thiago and wouldn’t mind seeing Liddell vs Jardine 2 too see if it really was a fluke. Then give Wandy (if he gets a solid win over Jardine and someone else) the winner of Machida vs. Thiago.

If Wandy beats the winner of Machida vs. Thiago then he is ready for a title shot imo.. Ha prolly won’t happen that way at all but would be cool to see.

[quote comment=”392241″][quote post=”5544″]Page sounds like a man who REALLY wants the rematch… Maybe hoping to piss Wandi off so he doesn’t drop to MW before Rampage gets his chance…But how far down the line is Wandi from a title shot right now? All factors included…. [/quote]

I think if he beats Jardine he will be right up there again only for the fact that Chuck lost to Jardine. Maybe Silva and Rampage will happen if Forrest beats Rampage too.[/quote]
Very true very true, but i think if Page beats Forrest (And he will) then we are more likely to see chuck vs Page again which is kinda BS but i could be wrong…probably am wrong actually

OK…JUST want to hear WANDI’s response to this now!!

haha theres no question what happend the last two fights the proof is in the history books already.

If he is the Chump Murderer, isn’t Rampage just calling himself a Chump?

WANDI isn’t the same as he was in pride , no one has been even anderson silva has changed dramatically but for the way-better,
DAN hendo KTFO out of WANDi it wasn’t even close .
plus in pride steroids were allowed, kicks and knees the the downed opponet and the is a japanese mob who owned part of pride.
did anyone see mark ker’s documentary with him using steroids like a drug addict and then fighting all the time in pride!?!??! cum
on.
and WANDi against Chuck was two men on the way out . Wandi was swinging like a cave man, only taking punches really.
we all know rampage has improved!!!!!
and beaten chuck 2x now, he’d kill wandi who without steroids needs to move down in weight to middleweight and then he should face anderson silva, well that is if anderson beats that boxer!!!!…lol….

Lot of posts about who gets the next title shot against Page. Short awnser…Jardine. He will upset Wandy, and UFC will have to give him the next shot. Chuck hands it to Rashad, and gets either Machida or Thiago - probably Machida if he wins impressively vs Tito - for the next in line fight. After Wandy loses to Jardine, he will move down to 185 and fight Bisping first fight.

[quote comment=”391807″]i mean, c’mon… Wanderlei has no problem fighting big dudes like CroCop and Mark Hunt then all of a sudden he moves over to roid-testing-UFC and he’s like, “i think these guys are too big”

WTF?! are you bloody kidding me?????

My money’s on Rampage!!![/quote]
Yeah, like those guys weren’t juiced up too?! Stop using the steroids as a cop out everyone. Just like in baseball. They give Barry Bonds a hard time, but you know every pitcher was on that stuff too! Steroids don’t give you a better eye or swing. Just as they don’t give you better ju-jitsu or any fighting skill whatsoever. So if steroids made Wandi bigger and more powerful with better stamina, and everyone else in Pride (Page included) was also on the stuff, where’s the advantage?

thats all this is, Rampage is just trying to stir up some shit and if Wandy, or better yet after!! Wandy kills Jardine, if it all fits right he could fight either the rematch with Chuck for the title shot (thats ofcourse after Chuck beats Evans) or Wandy could fight another contender and be inline for the title shot against Rampage of course thats if Rampage wins against Forrest, damn there are so many good matchups left
Chuck vs Jardine 2
Chuck vs Wandy 2
Chuck vs Rampage 3
Forrest vs Jardine 2
Forrest vs Wandy
Rampage vs wandy 3
and thats excluding Thiago Silva, Shogun, Lyoto Machida, Tito Ortiz, if the Sandman beats Alexander you have to include him in ther mix as well, too many good LHW right now.

[quote comment=”392301″]Lot of posts about who gets the next title shot against Page. Short awnser…Jardine. He will upset Wandy, and UFC will have to give him the next shot. Chuck hands it to Rashad, and gets either Machida or Thiago - probably Machida if he wins impressively vs Tito - for the next in line fight. After Wandy loses to Jardine, he will move down to 185 and fight Bisping first fight.[/quote]
Wouldn’t that be something if Jardine was the LHW champ? They’ve been counting him out since day one. Still are. First title defense would be Houston Alexander (if he can stay in the winner’s circle)!

Quinton can talk all he wants. I still respect him, but all I have to do is pop in my DVD’s of High Octane or the 03 GP and watch him get KO’d twice and his opinion is rendered worthless.

[quote comment=”392202″]Rampage is just mad cause silva hurt his feelings when he pushed him inside the pride ring when page called him out. He never got over that. I think the favoritism page was referring to was when he got wandy on the ground in their first fight and wasn’t going anywhere so the ref stood them up because of non-activity (and issued wandy a yellow card which is 20% off the purse plus a point off in pride, so I don’t know how that favored silva?). Page is just being a soared loser. He should’ve just said it would be a different story today. Wandy is no longer in his prime and is no longer with CB, while page is with a better camp, I’d love to see a wandy vs rampage III and frankly I think wandy would give him a third loss in the trilogy IMO.

This thing with pride favoring their stars is BS too, I watched almost all pride events and can’t complain about the refs. In fact I like the refs in Pride way more than those in the UFC. Wandy fought sakuraba when saku was the MW star and there was no favoritism for saku. He fought saku two more times and saku was still the fan favorite, and no different outcome. Page is the only one who bad mouths Pride come to think about it, how come no other athlete is doing that? Got to ask ourselves the obvious questions sometimes.[/quote]

Linx: Like you I am a huge PRIDE fan. I am also a fan of both Rampage and the former Chute Box boys. But Rampage may have a point. In both losses to wanderlei, Rampage was mauling wanderlei on the ground, and maybe they did stand them up unfairly. Both Rampage vs. Wandy fights were Epic, and I wont start to complain about Rampage’s losses because as much as he was mauling Wanderlie, wandy has some of the best recovery time in the whole world. Wanderlei fought like a true warrior against Rampage and I cant take anything away from his wins in PRIDE.

As for the UFC… I repeat No body is taking Rampage’s title. He will be LHW champion for at least another 2 years and when its all said and done, he could become the best LHW champ in UFC history, which will be hard because Tito, Couture and Liddell had some good title runs.

I just think Rampage is on a completely other level right now, and as long as Juanito is by his side, Rampage aint loosing that belt. Another interesting fact is that Juanito Ibarra was actually one of Vitor’s Belfort’s trainers when Vitor destroyed Wanderlei at Ultimate Brazil….

Mania, thanks for the assist.

[quote comment=”392246″]OK…JUST want to hear WANDI’s response to this now!![/quote]

If he could speak english properly he’d say “I am the chump murderer, that’s why you’re a chump”

But since he can’t speak well he will say “I want to f*ck page, ehr fight page”

[quote comment=”392355″]Linx: Like you I am a huge PRIDE fan. I am also a fan of both Rampage and the former Chute Box boys. But Rampage may have a point. In both losses to wanderlei, Rampage was mauling wanderlei on the ground, and maybe they did stand them up unfairly. Both Rampage vs. Wandy fights were Epic, and I wont start to complain about Rampage’s losses because as much as he was mauling Wanderlie, wandy has some of the best recovery time in the whole world. Wanderlei fought like a true warrior against Rampage and I cant take anything away from his wins in PRIDE.

As for the UFC… I repeat No body is taking Rampage’s title. He will be LHW champion for at least another 2 years and when its all said and done, he could become the best LHW champ in UFC history, which will be hard because Tito, Couture and Liddell had some good title runs.

I just think Rampage is on a completely other level right now, and as long as Juanito is by his side, Rampage aint loosing that belt. Another interesting fact is that Juanito Ibarra was actually one of Vitor’s Belfort’s trainers when Vitor destroyed Wanderlei at Ultimate Brazil….

Mania, thanks for the assist.[/quote]

From what I remember there was no favoritism in the page x wandy saga. Page should just accept his losses respectfully because he got destroyed twice big time. As for who’d win again I’m still going to go with wandy, only because I’m sure he got page’s number, but I could be wrong. Wandy’s style is better suited for rings than octagons so that is a big factor, but once he gets used to the octagon I think he’ll be fine (maybe that’s the reason he decided to leave CB and go to extreme couture).

You have to take in effect that Pride is just different than UFC, the whole concept of MMA between the two organizations vary. If someone is on top and delivering ground n’ pound for more than 2 minutes and not going anywhere, just ground n’ pound, they’d stand up the fight, in the UFC they’ll let it go. In contrast if someone on the ground is constantly working on submissions attempts in Pride they’ll let it go on forever, but in the UFC if someone is working for submissions and got nothing within a minute or two they’ll stop the action. This doesn’t mean that one organization is favoring a fighter, it’s just that the American and Japanese public like different parts of the game and the organization gives them what they want to see.

[quote post=”5544″]As for the UFC… I repeat No body is taking Rampage’s title. He will be LHW champion for at least another 2 years and when its all said and done, he could become the best LHW champ in UFC history, which will be hard because Tito, Couture and Liddell had some good title runs.
I just think Rampage is on a completely other level right now, and as long as Juanito is by his side, Rampage aint loosing that belt. Another interesting fact is that Juanito Ibarra was actually one of Vitor’s Belfort’s trainers when Vitor destroyed Wanderlei at Ultimate Brazil….[/quote]

Rampage is a great fighter but I can definately see him losing against a few opponents out there. Forrest has unbelievable workrate and if he doesnt expose his chin too much could cause an upset by decision. Machida would also be a real awkward test for him, and if Shogun gets back to his best like in Pride then that would be awesome too. But Shogun would really have to prove himself after his disastrous debut in the UFC. That was a disgrace.

I think it’s funny when people talk shit about the person that literally beat their ass to an oblivion.

Any word on when Wanderlei is fighting next, or against whom?

Why hasn’t Rampage had to defend his title yet? It seems like it’s been an unusually long time since he fought. Why dosn’t the UFC have consistent rules about how often the champion has to fight? Or do they?

Rampage hit the nail on the head. Wandy sucks. He was juiced up and when it did hit the ground the genius refs would give them a yellow card what the hell is this soccer. With the stupid ass cards. But you goofballs who love Pride must think that it is the greatest ideas ever. You are also the same people who think Fedor would rule the world with an Ironfist. Well I at least hope you now realize that they gave them all cans to fight or sideshow jokes. Wandy would not beat Rampage now.

[quote comment=”392482″]Any word on when Wanderlei is fighting next, or against whom?

Why hasn’t Rampage had to defend his title yet? It seems like it’s been an unusually long time since he fought. Why dosn’t the UFC have consistent rules about how often the champion has to fight? Or do they?[/quote]

wandy is fighting jardine, rampage defended his title against hendo, but he’s on the shelf because of selfish dana.

[quote post=”5544″]Rampage hit the nail on the head. Wandy sucks. He was juiced up and when it did hit the ground the genius refs would give them a yellow card what the hell is this soccer. With the stupid ass cards. But you goofballs who love Pride must think that it is the greatest ideas ever. You are also the same people who think Fedor would rule the world with an Ironfist. Well I at least hope you now realize that they gave them all cans to fight or sideshow jokes. Wandy would not beat Rampage now. [/quote]

Yeah and Rampage wasnt fighting in Pride and wasnt on the juice was he!? Steroids wouldnt give an advantage to Silva as Rampage was on it too. He literally beat his ass to a pulp and KOd twice very convincingly. There is no excuse. Rampage just summed up himself by quite literally calling himself a chump. If I was Wanderlei I would just laugh at this stupid comment.

Bill, that’s one of the most hilarious post I’ve ever seen, you should work for rampage. The yellow card was designed to make the fighters fight in case they were not delivering (how many boring hug fest have you watched in the UFC?). It took 10% off the fighters purse plus a point, and in the page x silva fight the one who got the card was silva (not page). This actually worked well, fighters don’t want to make less money so once they got the yellow card they’d get their act together and charge more (because they could always receive a second card). Please take a look at wandy’s resumé, saying that he sucks and look all the ppl he beat and fought. If you’re going to say he was on the juice was page on the juice too? Hendo? Big Nog? Who else was on the juice buddy?

BTW, soccer is the best sport in the whole world, hands down.

[quote comment=”392485″]Rampage hit the nail on the head. Wandy sucks. He was juiced up and when it did hit the ground the genius refs would give them a yellow card what the hell is this soccer. With the stupid ass cards. But you goofballs who love Pride must think that it is the greatest ideas ever. You are also the same people who think Fedor would rule the world with an Ironfist. Well I at least hope you now realize that they gave them all cans to fight or sideshow jokes. Wandy would not beat Rampage now.[/quote]
Again, Page was probably on roids too. So that did not give Wandi an advantage over Page. Rampage wasn’t doing enough on the ground or they wouldn’t have stood it up. Sure he was winning. But he wasn’t destroying Wandi as some have implied. Also you say Pride was feeding him cans. He destroyed Page twice. Are you calling Rampage a can? He will beat him now? He’s a different fighter? And Wanderlei hasn’t grown as a fighter training with Extreme Couture? I do agree with you that Fedor is overrated. Mania finds the best pictures of Fedor.

I think Page should be concentrating on Forrest at this point. Im not counting Forrest out i think he deff has the ability to beat Page if he can avoid getting KO’ED. Yeah the chump murderer thing is pretty childish kind of sounds like something a kid would say to another kid that is a Wandi fan. Talk is cheap facts are facts and the fact is that up to this point every time Page and Wandi have met in a fight Wandi has come out the winner. Has Page inproved yeah probably but isnt that just to easy to say “well Rampage is better than he was in Pride he would kill Wandi now”. Thats not necessarily the case Wandi is only like 31 yrs old and Page is 29 how can Wandi be so past his prime now and Page is shining brightly in his when there only 2 years apart. Just cuz a fighter loses 2 or 3 fights in a row doesnt mean they should fold it up and go home never to compete again.

It happens constantly some joe blow guy thats 25 yrs old racks up 9 or 10 wins and he’s the greatest MMA fighter around he loses 2 or 3 fights and bang he’s past his prime at age 27 lol is that a joke cuz its gotta be. I can admit peoples “Prime ages” may vary but come on. If Page and Wandi fight again the outcome will be the same unless Page scores a good Hit and gets the KO or takes Wandi down and eeks out the decision. Wandi has the supreme confidence of 2 brutal wins over Page. Wandi has the ability to take more damage than Page. But yes anything can happen and as fighters i like Page and Wandi both so as long as its a great fight im happy either way.

Rampage has no respect, he took 2 bigtime beatings from Wand, and still no respect. He s a big chirp show who is probably going to lose to Griffin.

[quote comment=”392414″][quote comment=”392355″]Linx: Like you I am a huge PRIDE fan. I am also a fan of both Rampage and the former Chute Box boys. But Rampage may have a point. In both losses to wanderlei, Rampage was mauling wanderlei on the ground, and maybe they did stand them up unfairly. Both Rampage vs. Wandy fights were Epic, and I wont start to complain about Rampage’s losses because as much as he was mauling Wanderlie, wandy has some of the best recovery time in the whole world. Wanderlei fought like a true warrior against Rampage and I cant take anything away from his wins in PRIDE.

As for the UFC… I repeat No body is taking Rampage’s title. He will be LHW champion for at least another 2 years and when its all said and done, he could become the best LHW champ in UFC history, which will be hard because Tito, Couture and Liddell had some good title runs.

I just think Rampage is on a completely other level right now, and as long as Juanito is by his side, Rampage aint loosing that belt. Another interesting fact is that Juanito Ibarra was actually one of Vitor’s Belfort’s trainers when Vitor destroyed Wanderlei at Ultimate Brazil….

Mania, thanks for the assist.[/quote]

From what I remember there was no favoritism in the page x wandy saga. Page should just accept his losses respectfully because he got destroyed twice big time. As for who’d win again I’m still going to go with wandy, only because I’m sure he got page’s number, but I could be wrong. Wandy’s style is better suited for rings than octagons so that is a big factor, but once he gets used to the octagon I think he’ll be fine (maybe that’s the reason he decided to leave CB and go to extreme couture).

You have to take in effect that Pride is just different than UFC, the whole concept of MMA between the two organizations vary. If someone is on top and delivering ground n’ pound for more than 2 minutes and not going anywhere, just ground n’ pound, they’d stand up the fight, in the UFC they’ll let it go. In contrast if someone on the ground is constantly working on submissions attempts in Pride they’ll let it go on forever, but in the UFC if someone is working for submissions and got nothing within a minute or two they’ll stop the action. This doesn’t mean that one organization is favoring a fighter, it’s just that the American and Japanese public like different parts of the game and the organization gives them what they want to see.[/quote]

I will never argue with an intelligent post like that. Good stuff Linx!

What I can agree with Rampage about is that Wanderlei’s title reign was a little misleading. You have to admit that some of wandy’s title defenses were against unworthy title challengers. But as for Wanderlei’s Overall career in Pride, It was truly Spectacular. He fought Heavyweights! He fought under K-1 rules, it didnt matter. Wanderlei will go down in history as one of the greatest warriors in MMA

guess that makes Rampage a chump!!

[quote comment=”392494″][quote comment=”392482″]Any word on when Wanderlei is fighting next, or against whom?

Why hasn’t Rampage had to defend his title yet? It seems like it’s been an unusually long time since he fought. Why dosn’t the UFC have consistent rules about how often the champion has to fight? Or do they?[/quote]

wandy is fighting jardine, rampage defended his title against hendo, but he’s on the shelf because of selfish dana.[/quote]

Oh, of course, what was I thinking? How could I have forgotten the Henderson fight??? Man, what am I smoking today?

[quote comment=”392754″][quote comment=”392494″][quote comment=”392482″]Any word on when Wanderlei is fighting next, or against whom?

Why hasn’t Rampage had to defend his title yet? It seems like it’s been an unusually long time since he fought. Why dosn’t the UFC have consistent rules about how often the champion has to fight? Or do they?[/quote]

wandy is fighting jardine, rampage defended his title against hendo, but he’s on the shelf because of selfish dana.[/quote]

Oh, of course, what was I thinking? How could I have forgotten the Henderson fight??? Man, what am I smoking today?[/quote]

don’t do drugs kids

[quote comment=”392659″]I will never argue with an intelligent post like that. Good stuff Linx!

What I can agree with Rampage about is that Wanderlei’s title reign was a little misleading. You have to admit that some of wandy’s title defenses were against unworthy title challengers. But as for Wanderlei’s Overall career in Pride, It was truly Spectacular. He fought Heavyweights! He fought under K-1 rules, it didnt matter. Wanderlei will go down in history as one of the greatest warriors in MMA[/quote]

I think that’s a legit statement to say sometimes they gave him cans. I don’t want to sound biased towards Pride (I’m sure I do anyways), but wandy would fight 4x per year as champion, when you fight that much you got to give him a bone every now and then. Besides wandy cleared the MW division in Pride, there wasn’t many left kinda like how the spiders is currently with the UFC (only lil’ nog was left to fight, and that would’ve happened if Pride was still around).

[quote comment=”392785″][quote comment=”392754″][quote comment=”392494″][quote comment=”392482″]Any word on when Wanderlei is fighting next, or against whom?

Why hasn’t Rampage had to defend his title yet? It seems like it’s been an unusually long time since he fought. Why dosn’t the UFC have consistent rules about how often the champion has to fight? Or do they?[/quote]

wandy is fighting jardine, rampage defended his title against hendo, but he’s on the shelf because of selfish dana.[/quote]

Oh, of course, what was I thinking? How could I have forgotten the Henderson fight??? Man, what am I smoking today?[/quote]

don’t do drugs kids :)[/quote]

I thought it was oregano….

[quote comment=”392659″][quote comment=”392414″][quote comment=”392355″]Linx: Like you I am a huge PRIDE fan. I am also a fan of both Rampage and the former Chute Box boys. But Rampage may have a point. In both losses to wanderlei, Rampage was mauling wanderlei on the ground, and maybe they did stand them up unfairly. Both Rampage vs. Wandy fights were Epic, and I wont start to complain about Rampage’s losses because as much as he was mauling Wanderlie, wandy has some of the best recovery time in the whole world. Wanderlei fought like a true warrior against Rampage and I cant take anything away from his wins in PRIDE.

As for the UFC… I repeat No body is taking Rampage’s title. He will be LHW champion for at least another 2 years and when its all said and done, he could become the best LHW champ in UFC history, which will be hard because Tito, Couture and Liddell had some good title runs.

I just think Rampage is on a completely other level right now, and as long as Juanito is by his side, Rampage aint loosing that belt. Another interesting fact is that Juanito Ibarra was actually one of Vitor’s Belfort’s trainers when Vitor destroyed Wanderlei at Ultimate Brazil….

Mania, thanks for the assist.[/quote]

From what I remember there was no favoritism in the page x wandy saga. Page should just accept his losses respectfully because he got destroyed twice big time. As for who’d win again I’m still going to go with wandy, only because I’m sure he got page’s number, but I could be wrong. Wandy’s style is better suited for rings than octagons so that is a big factor, but once he gets used to the octagon I think he’ll be fine (maybe that’s the reason he decided to leave CB and go to extreme couture).

You have to take in effect that Pride is just different than UFC, the whole concept of MMA between the two organizations vary. If someone is on top and delivering ground n’ pound for more than 2 minutes and not going anywhere, just ground n’ pound, they’d stand up the fight, in the UFC they’ll let it go. In contrast if someone on the ground is constantly working on submissions attempts in Pride they’ll let it go on forever, but in the UFC if someone is working for submissions and got nothing within a minute or two they’ll stop the action. This doesn’t mean that one organization is favoring a fighter, it’s just that the American and Japanese public like different parts of the game and the organization gives them what they want to see.[/quote]

I will never argue with an intelligent post like that. Good stuff Linx!

What I can agree with Rampage about is that Wanderlei’s title reign was a little misleading. You have to admit that some of wandy’s title defenses were against unworthy title challengers. But as for Wanderlei’s Overall career in Pride, It was truly Spectacular. He fought Heavyweights! He fought under K-1 rules, it didnt matter. Wanderlei will go down in history as one of the greatest warriors in MMA[/quote]
I believe that all of wandy’s defenses were good competition.

I really like Rampage but an excuse is like an asshole and him taking credit away from Wandi is pretty pothetic in my opinion. He destroyed Rampage twice and I pretty much am with linx on this one. He just got his ass beat and that is all that you can say about it.

It would be sick if GSP moved up to MW, Wandy moved down to MW, and they fought each other!

It would be sick if GSP moved up to MW, Wandy moved down to MW, and they fought each other!

[quote comment=”391637″]”i don’t know if you’ve been keeping up with current events, but we just got our asses kicked”-aliens

lol, sorry it just came to mind.. rampage you got your ass whooped, twice.. it might be a different story in the octagon, but damn those were thorough beatdowns… rampage is funny as hell, i’ll give him that… it would be nice to see him get a win against silva, but it would be kind of cool to see rampage get handed another loss…[/quote]

lol, don’t be sorry that was great, I just watched that scene the other night fliping through channels!

A guy that always popping off, is bound to say something real stupid… Rampage just did it.

I don’t know if what he is saying is true, but that will be a top fight that many will pay to see.

haha, preety easy talk about Wand…the fact is, Wand whooped his ass twice at pride…really destroyed him…now he comes talking BS…
His problem is not with wand anymore. Wand does not need to proove anything…If I were Jackson I would start getting worried with Machida and Thiago Silva..

Wanderlei is the best and most talented fighter ever…Jackson has to prove himself for alot longer time before he even mentions Wandy’s name in the same sentence with his name.I think that Wandy is the epitomy of a fighter…more than Liddell, Fedor, or Couture.Go wandy…I really hope that he ceeps the UFC LHW belt within the next year.

RAMPAGE IS THE SHIT

Wow rampage u are a disgrace of a fighter and a human being, how dare u make such allegations about a guy who beat/nearly killed u twice in the ring fair and square. In my opinion I think u talk too damn much, i think u need another knee shoved up in ur mouth.

Wow, it’s unbelievable how some ppl get a few wins under his belt, beats a guy that he beat before, and takes on a guy that is smaller than him in Hendo, not to discredit Hendo, but come on, he is much smaller than Rampage and of course, Rampage has Chuck’s number.

Here is my opinion on this, Rampage, you just called yourself a chump. Wanderlei when he is on his game is one of the most dangerous human beings ever to hit the MMA world. He holds brutal victories over you, I said victories, not victory. Chuck Liddell admitted that he could not knocked the man out, and we all know the power behind Liddell’s hands (one of the first times I ever seen Liddell go for takedowns in a fight, cause he knew he couldnt knock him out, so he had to make sure to outpoint him) I hope this goes to a third part of the saga, cause you know, I would love to see it, simply because you know Wandy would bring it. The person that said he was swinging like a gorilla, come on, if you know anything, Wandy has always had the wild striking style, and it worked. Look at his wins, just wait, Wandy will come back to supremacy, he might be in a slump, but that’s all I think it is, a slump. Just wait and see. The reign of the Axe Murderer will start a whole new chapter in the near future