The most recognizable female mixed martial arts fighter in the world, undefeated Muay Thai specialist Gina Carano, will compete against Kaitlin Young (4-1) during the EliteXC show debut of “Saturday Night Fights” on CBS this May 31, according to MMAWeekly.com.
Before losing her most recent match to Sara Schneider via submission (armbar) last month, Young dominated an eight-woman tournament put on by BoDog Fights in November 2007. She won all three fights in the same night all with T(KO) stoppages inside of the first minute of the fights.
Young boasts a strong stand up game and will get the chance to test her skills against a top female striker in the sport.
Carano is already known in the network TV world as American Gladiator “Crush,” making her place on the first ever network MMA show inevitable. She has done a lot to help put female mixed martial arts on the map. In fact, She was a part of the first sanctioned female MMA fight in Nevada, beating Rosy Sexton of England via technical knockout in the second round that night.
“Conviction” has since reeled off three more wins all under the EliteXC banner.
Carano is a Muay Thai champion and knows her way around the cage. She’s not scared to hit or be hit. She’s also fun to watch and should provide some excitement when she locks pigtails with Young at the Prudential Center in Newark, N.J..
It’s a nice addition to an already stacked card that includes Kimbo Slice, Robbie Lawler, Scott Smith, Ninja Rua, Phil Baroni and others.
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nice! Gina is EliteXC’s biggest draw as far as i’m concerned. i’ll watch any card she is on.
Great this will be the 1st time in my life that I will be spanking it during an mma event! lol
She needs to do playboy or something cause she is Fine!!!! I would give anything to watch her grapple my girldfreind!
“It’s a nice addition to an already stacked card that includes Kimbo Slice, Robbie Lawler, Scott Smith, Ninja Rua, Phil Baroni and others.”
LOL@ that card being stacked…you can not be serious.
I won’t mind seeing two girls going at it, I think the time has come to introduce them to a mainstream MMA organization (I only say mainstream because EliteXC is walking towards that road as I see it).
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Now I like to joke around from time to time if I’m the first post but I also still try to speak on the topic, to just right 1st and nothing else is kinda dumb.
Onto the topic. I’m not a fan of female MMA unless it’s two females who really have skills and it seems as if we have that there, so I’m looking forward to seeing Gina finally face a quality opponent.
karo can talk all he wants about how women don’t belong in MMA, but i think Gina could beat him HAHAH
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Grow up dude! i have been 1st about a million times and not once did I bother typing 1st! Its getting very old, and its not even close to being funny anymore. How about you post something meaningful that can stimulate conversations instead of….1st!
Young is a great underdog
[quote comment="390325"]Great this will be the 1st time in my life that I will be spanking it during an mma event! lol
She needs to do playboy or something cause she is Fine!!!! I would give anything to watch her grapple my girldfreind![/quote]
why is it all about sex? grow up.
[quote comment="390333"]“It’s a nice addition to an already stacked card that includes Kimbo Slice, Robbie Lawler, Scott Smith, Ninja Rua, Phil Baroni and others.”
LOL@ that card being stacked…you can not be serious.[/quote]
Stop being a hater. If you aren’t excited to see this show you just aren’t an MMA fan. Go nurse on the UFCs nipple some more.
Don’t know anything about Young but Gina for sure belongs in MMA. She is very good and it doesn’t hurt that she is hot too! Can’t wait to see her fight again.
[quote comment="390391"][quote comment="390333"]“It’s a nice addition to an already stacked card that includes Kimbo Slice, Robbie Lawler, Scott Smith, Ninja Rua, Phil Baroni and others.”
LOL@ that card being stacked…you can not be serious.[/quote]
Stop being a hater. If you aren’t excited to see this show you just aren’t an MMA fan. Go nurse on the UFCs nipple some more.[/quote]I’m not a hater at all…Kimbo fights cans…Lawler/Smith will be just like Stann/Marshall last night..Baroni will gass after one round…it’s a pretty predictable card…it’s definitely not stacked.
Cant say I am real big on watching the girls fight. Maybe a little sexist but just cant get into it. Which honestly is odd because I am one of the biggest supporters of women learning to fight, at least BJJ for self defense reasons. Which was one of the main reasons it was developed, for those that are weaker and potentially victimized to have a fighting chance. Or maybe it is because I do have juvenile hopes of some clothes come tearing off and thus unintentionally downgrade the class and honor of the fight. Although I still wish.
Off topic, but does anyone know how to download UFC events in good quality?-for free of course- Because I really want the ufc events, but I dont want to pay 20 bucks for each one…
I haven’t really been able to follow too many of the girl fighters, other than the few I have seen on bodog and they have some pretty good scraps. Very tough.
Who are some of the toughest chick fighters out there? Not by opinion, but who has really proven it?
It is only a matter of time before UFC gives in and allows the girls to fight. It will likely happen when they can draw the big payday from a girl fight.
Wow, what did I say that flagged my comment to be moderated?
[quote comment="390421"]Cant say I am real big on watching the girls fight. Maybe a little sexist but just cant get into it. Which honestly is odd because I am one of the biggest supporters of women learning to fight, at least BJJ for self defense reasons. Which was one of the main reasons it was developed, for those that are weaker and potentially victimized to have a fighting chance. Or maybe it is because I do have juvenile hopes of some clothes come tearing off and thus unintentionally downgrade the class and honor of the fight. Although I still wish.[/quote]
hypocrite. support, don’t demote.
[quote comment="390433"][quote comment="390421"]Cant say I am real big on watching the girls fight. Maybe a little sexist but just cant get into it. Which honestly is odd because I am one of the biggest supporters of women learning to fight, at least BJJ for self defense reasons. Which was one of the main reasons it was developed, for those that are weaker and potentially victimized to have a fighting chance. Or maybe it is because I do have juvenile hopes of some clothes come tearing off and thus unintentionally downgrade the class and honor of the fight. Although I still wish.[/quote]
hypocrite. support, don’t demote.[/quote]
I wouldn’t step into the cage with her if I had a bat in hand. Someone’s sex does not determine their ability to do anything other than piss while standing up. If you have the guts to step in and fight, all the power/ respect to you. In case you can’t tell, I’m a single father of two little girls.
LMAO! You’re afraid of a girl kicking your ass?
LMAO!
With a base ball bat even!
LMAO!
I can’t get over how much holly wood has affected you guys! LMAO!
I grew up with four sisters and I maintain that when a girl gets out of hand…….Even if their trained as a guy you should be able to hold them down until they calm down a little……Hello this is why guys don’t hit Women!
LMAO!
the girls fighting is always exciting, given the recent exelite show this sat i am dying to know how many of the cbs sat the 30th show fights will be cancelled or moved just like the april show and the one this weekend
[quote comment="390411"][quote comment="390391"][quote comment="390333"]“It’s a nice addition to an already stacked card that includes Kimbo Slice, Robbie Lawler, Scott Smith, Ninja Rua, Phil Baroni and others.”
LOL@ that card being stacked…you can not be serious.[/quote]
Stop being a hater. If you aren’t excited to see this show you just aren’t an MMA fan. Go nurse on the UFCs nipple some more.[/quote]I’m not a hater at all…Kimbo fights cans…Lawler/Smith will be just like Stann/Marshall last night..Baroni will gass after one round…it’s a pretty predictable card…it’s definitely not stacked.[/quote]
Wow, somebody said ‘nipple’ in a thread about Gina Carano, but it’s totally not what you would think it’s about.
[quote comment="390433"][quote comment="390421"]Cant say I am real big on watching the girls fight. Maybe a little sexist but just cant get into it. Which honestly is odd because I am one of the biggest supporters of women learning to fight, at least BJJ for self defense reasons. Which was one of the main reasons it was developed, for those that are weaker and potentially victimized to have a fighting chance. Or maybe it is because I do have juvenile hopes of some clothes come tearing off and thus unintentionally downgrade the class and honor of the fight. Although I still wish.[/quote]
hypocrite. support, don’t demote.[/quote]
I really cant get into any female sports, not trying to be sexist, but why would I watch second tier sports? Sure there good, but not as good as men(athleticly). You can argue, but there just not.
[quote post="5530"]I really cant get into any female sports, not trying to be sexist, but why would I watch second tier sports? Sure there good, but not as good as men(athleticly). You can argue, but there just not. [/quote]
I tend to agree with you for the most part. I avoid watching women play professional sports if at all possible. It’s usually just slower. I do think fighting is a little different though. Anyone, if they put enought time into it, can become very technically skilled. I can appreciate a fight that has a lot of technique to it. I’ve never seen Gina fight, but supposedly she got skills, so we’ll see. I’m skepticle that of me actually like watching her fight, but I’ll give her a chance.
[quote comment="390461"][quote comment="390433"][quote comment="390421"]Cant say I am real big on watching the girls fight. Maybe a little sexist but just cant get into it. Which honestly is odd because I am one of the biggest supporters of women learning to fight, at least BJJ for self defense reasons. Which was one of the main reasons it was developed, for those that are weaker and potentially victimized to have a fighting chance. Or maybe it is because I do have juvenile hopes of some clothes come tearing off and thus unintentionally downgrade the class and honor of the fight. Although I still wish.[/quote]
hypocrite. support, don’t demote.[/quote]
I really cant get into any female sports, not trying to be sexist, but why would I watch second tier sports? Sure there good, but not as good as men(athleticly). You can argue, but there just not.[/quote]
in soccer for example, Kristine Lilly was the world record holder for the highest number of international caps (over 300 caps) As opposed to the men’s record (Mohamed Al-Deaye 181 caps)
Thats pretty athletic.
[quote comment="390451"][quote comment="390411"][quote comment="390391"][quote comment="390333"]“It’s a nice addition to an already stacked card that includes Kimbo Slice, Robbie Lawler, Scott Smith, Ninja Rua, Phil Baroni and others.”
LOL@ that card being stacked…you can not be serious.[/quote]
Stop being a hater. If you aren’t excited to see this show you just aren’t an MMA fan. Go nurse on the UFCs nipple some more.[/quote]I’m not a hater at all…Kimbo fights cans…Lawler/Smith will be just like Stann/Marshall last night..Baroni will gass after one round…it’s a pretty predictable card…it’s definitely not stacked.[/quote]
Wow, somebody said ‘nipple’ in a thread about Gina Carano, but it’s totally not what you would think it’s about.[/quote]
hahaha
[quote comment="390508"][quote comment="390451"][quote comment="390411"][quote comment="390391"][quote comment="390333"]“It’s a nice addition to an already stacked card that includes Kimbo Slice, Robbie Lawler, Scott Smith, Ninja Rua, Phil Baroni and others.”
LOL@ that card being stacked…you can not be serious.[/quote]
Stop being a hater. If you aren’t excited to see this show you just aren’t an MMA fan. Go nurse on the UFCs nipple some more.[/quote]I’m not a hater at all…Kimbo fights cans…Lawler/Smith will be just like Stann/Marshall last night..Baroni will gass after one round…it’s a pretty predictable card…it’s definitely not stacked.[/quote]
Wow, somebody said ‘nipple’ in a thread about Gina Carano, but it’s totally not what you would think it’s about.[/quote]
hahaha[/quote]
I disagree I think it is stack. You have the most popular female fighter and the most popular internet street fighter both on the same card. Not to mention other good fights such as baroni/ninja and lawler/smith.
I’ll watch whatever she does she’s HOT!! I’d lick her legs for a MONTH
[quote comment="390325"]Great this will be the 1st time in my life that I will be spanking it during an mma event! lol
She needs to do playboy or something cause she is Fine!!!! I would give anything to watch her grapple my girldfreind![/quote]
This will be my 7th time spanking it durning an mma event. Gina’s alreay fought 5 times before and then there was that one time that a couple years ago that when I thought that Josh Kosheck was a girl. OOOPPPPSSSS!
[quote comment="390354"]karo can talk all he wants about how women don’t belong in MMA, but i think Gina could beat him HAHAH
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In Muay Thai it would be close.
[quote post="5530"] tend to agree with you for the most part. I avoid watching women play professional sports if at all possible. It’s usually just slower. I do think fighting is a little different though. Anyone, if they put enought time into it, can become very technically skilled. I can appreciate a fight that has a lot of technique to it. I’ve never seen Gina fight, but supposedly she got skills, so we’ll see. I’m skepticle that of me actually like watching her fight, but I’ll give her a chance. [/quote]
I greatly admire women for even trying sports, they are naturally put at a disadvatige and yet they still keep going. But like you said I will give this a shot.[quote comment="390498"][quote comment="390461"][quote comment="390433"][quote comment="390421"]Cant say I am real big on watching the girls fight. Maybe a little sexist but just cant get into it. Which honestly is odd because I am one of the biggest supporters of women learning to fight, at least BJJ for self defense reasons. Which was one of the main reasons it was developed, for those that are weaker and potentially victimized to have a fighting chance. Or maybe it is because I do have juvenile hopes of some clothes come tearing off and thus unintentionally downgrade the class and honor of the fight. Although I still wish.[/quote]
hypocrite. support, don’t demote.[/quote]
I really cant get into any female sports, not trying to be sexist, but why would I watch second tier sports? Sure there good, but not as good as men(athleticly). You can argue, but there just not.[/quote]
in soccer for example, Kristine Lilly was the world record holder for the highest number of international caps (over 300 caps) As opposed to the men’s record (Mohamed Al-Deaye 181 caps)
Thats pretty athletic.[/quote]
So are you willing to say that if she was on a mans team she would have had the same luck, or be one of the worst players on the team?
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1st A HOLE
[quote comment="390411"][quote comment="390391"][quote comment="390333"]“It’s a nice addition to an already stacked card that includes Kimbo Slice, Robbie Lawler, Scott Smith, Ninja Rua, Phil Baroni and others.”
LOL@ that card being stacked…you can not be serious.[/quote]
Stop being a hater. If you aren’t excited to see this show you just aren’t an MMA fan. Go nurse on the UFCs nipple some more.[/quote]I’m not a hater at all…Kimbo fights cans…Lawler/Smith will be just like Stann/Marshall last night..Baroni will gass after one round…it’s a pretty predictable card…it’s definitely not stacked.[/quote]
Ok so you have 3 probably quick KOs and a woman’s match between two brawlers. How is that not awesome action? Also its only Kimbo’s 3rd fight. What do you expect him to just jump right into the deep end before learning how to swim? Its still fun to watch him wreck people.
[quote comment="390576"][quote post="5530"] tend to agree with you for the most part. I avoid watching women play professional sports if at all possible. It’s usually just slower. I do think fighting is a little different though. Anyone, if they put enought time into it, can become very technically skilled. I can appreciate a fight that has a lot of technique to it. I’ve never seen Gina fight, but supposedly she got skills, so we’ll see. I’m skepticle that of me actually like watching her fight, but I’ll give her a chance. [/quote]
I greatly admire women for even trying sports, they are naturally put at a disadvatige and yet they still keep going. But like you said I will give this a shot.[quote comment="390498"][quote comment="390461"][quote comment="390433"][quote comment="390421"]Cant say I am real big on watching the girls fight. Maybe a little sexist but just cant get into it. Which honestly is odd because I am one of the biggest supporters of women learning to fight, at least BJJ for self defense reasons. Which was one of the main reasons it was developed, for those that are weaker and potentially victimized to have a fighting chance. Or maybe it is because I do have juvenile hopes of some clothes come tearing off and thus unintentionally downgrade the class and honor of the fight. Although I still wish.[/quote]
hypocrite. support, don’t demote.[/quote]
I really cant get into any female sports, not trying to be sexist, but why would I watch second tier sports? Sure there good, but not as good as men(athleticly). You can argue, but there just not.[/quote]
in soccer for example, Kristine Lilly was the world record holder for the highest number of international caps (over 300 caps) As opposed to the men’s record (Mohamed Al-Deaye 181 caps)
Thats pretty athletic.[/quote]
So are you willing to say that if she was on a mans team she would have had the same luck, or be one of the worst players on the team?[/quote]
do you know what a cap means?
Let’s hope for Gina’s sake it’s “that time of the month,” so she can get bitchy and kick some ass. Eh, Mania?
quote comment=”390447″][quote comment="390433"][quote comment="390421"]Cant say I am real big on watching the girls fight. Maybe a little sexist but just cant get into it. Which honestly is odd because I am one of the biggest supporters of women learning to fight, at least BJJ for self defense reasons. Which was one of the main reasons it was developed, for those that are weaker and potentially victimized to have a fighting chance. Or maybe it is because I do have juvenile hopes of some clothes come tearing off and thus unintentionally downgrade the class and honor of the fight. Although I still wish.[/quote]
hypocrite. support, don’t demote.[/quote]
I wouldn’t step into the cage with her if I had a bat in hand. Someone’s sex does not determine their ability to do anything other than piss while standing up. If you have the guts to step in and fight, all the power/ respect to you. In case you can’t tell, I’m a single father of two little girls.[/quote]
I meant in no way to question womens athletisism, I know many that could beat me at many things. Willing or not. Like I said I fully support their training and am myself a father of two and soon maybe three girls. Full respect to them all for stepping in at all. More than I have done. Hence the name. Just for what ever reason cant get into it. different agression, old school, something. Hyprocrite…probably but it is what it is.
[quote comment="390447"][quote comment="390433"][quote comment="390421"]Cant say I am real big on watching the girls fight. Maybe a little sexist but just cant get into it. Which honestly is odd because I am one of the biggest supporters of women learning to fight, at least BJJ for self defense reasons. Which was one of the main reasons it was developed, for those that are weaker and potentially victimized to have a fighting chance. Or maybe it is because I do have juvenile hopes of some clothes come tearing off and thus unintentionally downgrade the class and honor of the fight. Although I still wish.[/quote]
hypocrite. support, don’t demote.[/quote]
I wouldn’t step into the cage with her if I had a bat in hand. Someone’s sex does not determine their ability to do anything other than piss while standing up. If you have the guts to step in and fight, all the power/ respect to you. In case you can’t tell, I’m a single father of two little girls.[/quote]
thats a good Daddy.
lets see her fight Kimbo since she wants to get all crazy. shoot i’ll watch that.
Funny how ppl say “I don’t want to sound sexist or anything, but I hate watching women’s sports, THEY’RE SLOWER, LESS ATHLETIC, BLA BLA BLA’ LMAO. Truth of the matter is that you ARE being sexist. The women’s World Cup last year was awesome, I was screaming at the TV just as loud as when I’d watch the men’s World Cup. Truth of the matter is that you probably got that subconscious in the back of your head that says “they’re not really good, so don’t watch”. You never got used to watching a woman sport game, in fact, I’d bet you have never watched a women’s sport game from beginning to end. The only way you’ll get rid of that mentality is watching a sport you enjoy (basketball, baseball, soccer), whatever it is, but the female version and from beginning to end. I’m sure you’ll be surprised.
And before anyone say that they’re not as strong as us men, please look online to see a body building competition (female version), most of them can break our necks with one finger.
[quote comment="390423"]Off topic, but does anyone know how to download UFC events in good quality?-for free of course- Because I really want the ufc events, but I dont want to pay 20 bucks for each one…[/quote]
Just download the torrent, the best torrent site is mininova.org (it usually takes 2 days to become available though, which is why I still pay to see it live).
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wow, now that was just breathtaking, thank you for your imbecilic imput, truly yours, MMAMANIA Bloggers.
I’d let her beat my ass anyday
[quote comment="390620"]Let’s hope for Gina’s sake it’s “that time of the month,” so she can get bitchy and kick some ass. Eh, Mania?[/quote]
On a serious note, I believe the last time out, Gina had a lot of trouble making weight because she was retaining water during her period. What weight is this fight at I wonder?
[quote comment="390423"]Off topic, but does anyone know how to download UFC events in good quality?-for free of course- Because I really want the ufc events, but I dont want to pay 20 bucks for each one…[/quote]
Yea Ill tell you as soon as you tell me where I can pay 20 bucks for a UFC event
[quote comment="390767"]Funny how ppl say “I don’t want to sound sexist or anything, but I hate watching women’s sports, THEY’RE SLOWER, LESS ATHLETIC, BLA BLA BLA’ LMAO. Truth of the matter is that you ARE being sexist. The women’s World Cup last year was awesome, I was screaming at the TV just as loud as when I’d watch the men’s World Cup. Truth of the matter is that you probably got that subconscious in the back of your head that says “they’re not really good, so don’t watch”. You never got used to watching a woman sport game, in fact, I’d bet you have never watched a women’s sport game from beginning to end. The only way you’ll get rid of that mentality is watching a sport you enjoy (basketball, baseball, soccer), whatever it is, but the female version and from beginning to end. I’m sure you’ll be surprised.
And before anyone say that they’re not as strong as us men, please look online to see a body building competition (female version), most of them can break our necks with one finger.[/quote]
Gina Carano would kick my ass into next week. I’m not going to debate that. Most women in professional sports could beat most men, most of the time. But, proffesional is the key word in that sentence. Professional male athletes are significantly better at most sports then professional female athletes. That’s all I would argue. Why would I pay money or take up my time watching an inferior product when there is a better one on somewhere else? I’m not saying we shouldn’t support women in sports. Sport are great and should be available to all people. But when it comes to the money making enterprises of professional sports, men are always going to outperform women because the product is better.
Id hit it…
The very nature of the MMA fan base will prevent women’s MMA from ever being more than a novelty act. Just scan the comments here for proof. I suppose this is why so many of my friends mock me for loving combat sports. It’s easier to accurately stereotype my fellow fans than it is to stereotype women, that’s for sure.
[quote comment="390778"][quote comment="390620"]Let’s hope for Gina’s sake it’s “that time of the month,” so she can get bitchy and kick some ass. Eh, Mania?[/quote]
On a serious note, I believe the last time out, Gina had a lot of trouble making weight because she was retaining water during her period. What weight is this fight at I wonder?[/quote]
That’s not something I’d thought about. Hopefully she elarned a lesson.
Was some paint drying or grass growing not available for this card? WHO CARES!
[quote comment="390921"]The very nature of the MMA fan base will prevent women’s MMA from ever being more than a novelty act. Just scan the comments here for proof. I suppose this is why so many of my friends mock me for loving combat sports. It’s easier to accurately stereotype my fellow fans than it is to stereotype women, that’s for sure.[/quote]
Check out other dedicated MMA sites/blogs. They are supportive and open to Women fighting. Its the comments on MANIA that spew the most vitriol.
[quote comment="391123"][quote comment="390921"]The very nature of the MMA fan base will prevent women’s MMA from ever being more than a novelty act. Just scan the comments here for proof. I suppose this is why so many of my friends mock me for loving combat sports. It’s easier to accurately stereotype my fellow fans than it is to stereotype women, that’s for sure.[/quote]
Check out other dedicated MMA sites/blogs. They are supportive and open to Women fighting. Its the comments on MANIA that spew the most vitriol.[/quote]
And the comments here are deceiving. its only a couple chauvanistic @ssclowns spewing idiotic tripe such as andy. I love watching Gina fight, hell she puts on a better performance than most of the fighters out there. I dare Andy to tell Gina to her face that she is a inferior athlete.
[quote comment="391147"][quote comment="391123"][quote comment="390921"]The very nature of the MMA fan base will prevent women’s MMA from ever being more than a novelty act. Just scan the comments here for proof. I suppose this is why so many of my friends mock me for loving combat sports. It’s easier to accurately stereotype my fellow fans than it is to stereotype women, that’s for sure.[/quote]
Check out other dedicated MMA sites/blogs. They are supportive and open to Women fighting. Its the comments on MANIA that spew the most vitriol.[/quote]
And the comments here are deceiving. its only a couple chauvanistic @ssclowns spewing idiotic tripe such as andy. I love watching Gina fight, hell she puts on a better performance than most of the fighters out there. I dare Andy to tell Gina to her face that she is a inferior athlete.[/quote]
Guys relax. I’m not into seeing women fight (yet!!! Haven’t had the chance so far) because compared with seeing guys fight I imagine I won’t be able to scream at the TV for one opponent to punch the other or say “make em bleeeed”.
I think its the way I’ve been brought up, I would never consider hitting a woman or even seeing a woman take serious punishment from another woman. I respect women in the world of sports, there are even some sports were I prefer watching the female equivalent tover the males but not MMA. Saying a woman is less athletic is stupid what we (men) hold the advantage in (e.g. strength) women usually make up for in other attributes (flexibility… etc).
Just because I don’t like the idea of female MMA does’t mean I’m sexist. I could watch Forrest Griffin bleeding all over the octagon and not flinch but I don’t know if I would be the same if it was a female. When I get the chance I’ll watch a few matches and see if my opinion changes. However those who label people sexist at the drop of a hat based on a single sporting concept are as narrow minded as those who they are judging.
[quote post="5530"]Check out other dedicated MMA sites/blogs. They are supportive and open to Women fighting. Its the comments on MANIA that spew the most vitriol. [/quote]
Vitriol? That’s a bit of an overstatement. I havn’t been saying anything negatively about professional female fighters, just that they aren’t as good as professional male fighters. That’s not vitriol, that’s just the truth. I guess you guys are a little too politically correct to handle hearing the truth.
[quote post="5530"]And the comments here are deceiving. its only a couple chauvanistic @ssclowns spewing idiotic tripe such as andy. I love watching Gina fight, hell she puts on a better performance than most of the fighters out there. I dare Andy to tell Gina to her face that she is a inferior athlete. [/quote]
I already stated that Gina would destroy me, but I’m not a professional. You honestly think she would beat guys who train MMA full time? I don’t think Gina could beat any featherweight or bantamweight training full time.
According to you guys, I guess that makes me a “sexist” and “chauvanistic”.
[quote comment="390864"]Id hit it…[/quote]
I would consider that to be more “sexist” and “chauvanistic”.
What is sexist, is to not acknowledge that women are worse at MMA, and at all sports. If they weren’t there would be no women’s sports leagues; they would play with the men if they were athletes on the same level. If you’re dumb enough to say women aren’t worse at sports, then you should be willing to let a man fight a woman in the ring. If you would allow that to happen, then you clearly hate women more than anyone on this thread.
What’s funny to me is that people can say that women are just as good as men at sports, when it’s not just physical sports that are gender-specific. If Women are as good as men at sports, why is there female tennis? There’s no chance of them running into each other, the men aren’t going to hurt them by playing rough, so why is it that the women play the women and the men play the men? HMMM…. How about Ping Pong? How about golf?! Why the hell can’t a woman play a man at golf? They can’t compete in any sports. Having women’s sports leagues is a lot like having the under 6 feet NBA. Sure, there would be some very talented basketball players in such a league, but it would be ridiculous to have a league that allows only an inferior category of athletes to compete.
One last point I want to make is that the male organizations are not exclusively male. If a woman could compete in the NBA, she would be there. We see females on college football teams and if any woman gets good enough, she’ll find herself competing with the men.
Andy makes some great points in his last post.
People seem to be arguing that the women are just as ENTERTAINING as the men. That’s a different argument from saying that they are as GOOD as the men. I find female sports less entertaining, but I can’t say that they are objectively less entertaining than male sports. I can say that women are objectively worse at certain sports, such as golf, basketball, football, Tennis, Soccer, Hockey… I could go on a while. They are objectively worse because in golf, for instance, they will do worse under identical circumstances. Playing the same holes they will lose. Male basketball players will hit a much higher percentage of their shots undefended, their free throw percentages are much higher, and they use a bigger ball (the smaller ball makes it easier to make shots, as the hoop is the same size). Male tennis players will hit the ball much faster, can get more spin on their shots, run faster, react more quickly. That’s right men even have better reaction time than women.
Hell, women can’t even beat men at cooking. The best chefs in the world are men. What aren’t men better at than women? Someone who was defending women should be able to come up with an answer, otherwise they’re just as “sexist” as me.
[quote comment="391147"][quote comment="391123"][quote comment="390921"]The very nature of the MMA fan base will prevent women’s MMA from ever being more than a novelty act. Just scan the comments here for proof. I suppose this is why so many of my friends mock me for loving combat sports. It’s easier to accurately stereotype my fellow fans than it is to stereotype women, that’s for sure.[/quote]
Check out other dedicated MMA sites/blogs. They are supportive and open to Women fighting. Its the comments on MANIA that spew the most vitriol.[/quote]
And the comments here are deceiving. its only a couple chauvanistic @ssclowns spewing idiotic tripe such as andy. I love watching Gina fight, hell she puts on a better performance than most of the fighters out there. I dare Andy to tell Gina to her face that she is a inferior athlete.[/quote]
Thanks for the responses. I just get so cynical when I read the comments on the site.
Well I’m sure I’ll be more pumped for this fight than any other one. lol My god she’s hot.
[quote comment="390333"]“It’s a nice addition to an already stacked card that includes Kimbo Slice, Robbie Lawler, Scott Smith, Ninja Rua, Phil Baroni and others.”
LOL@ that card being stacked…you can not be serious.[/quote]
I don’t know about the card, but Gina is absolutely stacked.
OK, maybe that was a bit sexist. haha
[quote comment="390767"]Funny how ppl say “I don’t want to sound sexist or anything, but I hate watching women’s sports, THEY’RE SLOWER, LESS ATHLETIC, BLA BLA BLA’ LMAO. Truth of the matter is that you ARE being sexist. The women’s World Cup last year was awesome, I was screaming at the TV just as loud as when I’d watch the men’s World Cup. Truth of the matter is that you probably got that subconscious in the back of your head that says “they’re not really good, so don’t watch”. You never got used to watching a woman sport game, in fact, I’d bet you have never watched a women’s sport game from beginning to end. The only way you’ll get rid of that mentality is watching a sport you enjoy (basketball, baseball, soccer), whatever it is, but the female version and from beginning to end. I’m sure you’ll be surprised.
And before anyone say that they’re not as strong as us men, please look online to see a body building competition (female version), most of them can break our necks with one finger.[/quote]
I tend to agree with you. The first somen’s World Cup (where we beat China), I refused to open the kitchen in my restaurant til the game was over. Hahaha. No, women can’t do every single little thing that elite males can (dunk a basketball like Shaq), but the fundamentals are EVERY bit as sound (hit WAY more free throws and make better assists than Shaq). I’m a decent sized guy (6′ 1″, 225) and we have a few women in my gym that are HUGE compared to me. Sorry, didn’t want to turn this into a sexist arguement. But to sum it up, watch the women fight, I bet you’ll be impressed.
[quote comment="391384"]People seem to be arguing that the women are just as ENTERTAINING as the men. That’s a different argument from saying that they are as GOOD as the men. I find female sports less entertaining, but I can’t say that they are objectively less entertaining than male sports. I can say that women are objectively worse at certain sports, such as golf, basketball, football, Tennis, Soccer, Hockey… I could go on a while. They are objectively worse because in golf, for instance, they will do worse under identical circumstances. Playing the same holes they will lose. Male basketball players will hit a much higher percentage of their shots undefended, their free throw percentages are much higher, and they use a bigger ball (the smaller ball makes it easier to make shots, as the hoop is the same size). Male tennis players will hit the ball much faster, can get more spin on their shots, run faster, react more quickly. That’s right men even have better reaction time than women.
Hell, women can’t even beat men at cooking. The best chefs in the world are men. What aren’t men better at than women? Someone who was defending women should be able to come up with an answer, otherwise they’re just as “sexist” as me.[/quote]
I’m at work so part of my response will have to wait. And I’m not looking to argue, just maybe enlighten a little. But your chef’s comment is off the mark. I’ve worked with amazing female chefs that could stand and thrive under the heat and pressure of a high end kitchen. Hell, Daniel Boulud (of Boulud among other restaurants in N.Y.) thinks Alice Waters (Chez Panisse, consistent winner of best restaurant in the nation)is a goddess in the kitchen.
[quote comment="392248"][quote comment="391384"]People seem to be arguing that the women are just as ENTERTAINING as the men. That’s a different argument from saying that they are as GOOD as the men. I find female sports less entertaining, but I can’t say that they are objectively less entertaining than male sports. I can say that women are objectively worse at certain sports, such as golf, basketball, football, Tennis, Soccer, Hockey… I could go on a while. They are objectively worse because in golf, for instance, they will do worse under identical circumstances. Playing the same holes they will lose. Male basketball players will hit a much higher percentage of their shots undefended, their free throw percentages are much higher, and they use a bigger ball (the smaller ball makes it easier to make shots, as the hoop is the same size). Male tennis players will hit the ball much faster, can get more spin on their shots, run faster, react more quickly. That’s right men even have better reaction time than women.
Hell, women can’t even beat men at cooking. The best chefs in the world are men. What aren’t men better at than women? Someone who was defending women should be able to come up with an answer, otherwise they’re just as “sexist” as me.[/quote]
I’m at work so part of my response will have to wait. And I’m not looking to argue, just maybe enlighten a little. But your chef’s comment is off the mark. I’ve worked with amazing female chefs that could stand and thrive under the heat and pressure of a high end kitchen. Hell, Daniel Boulud (of Boulud among other restaurants in N.Y.) thinks Alice Waters (Chez Panisse, consistent winner of best restaurant in the nation)is a goddess in the kitchen.[/quote]
You’re definitely not looking to argue, because you did not even claim that women were better chefs. Clearly, you agree with me that men are better even at cooking, but you simply want to remind me that that doesn’t mean that women can’t make good chefs. I am well aware of that fact. The same goes for the above comment about female weightlifters. When someone says that men are stronger, they are not saying that NO woman is stronger than ANY man, but that the strongest people in the world are men, and men are stronger than women overall. I’m saying that the men have an advantage in all sports, and no woman is the best, or near the best, at any sport. The whole gender segregation of sports is sexist against women and men. Women don’t even play men at chess. At freaking Chess!
Yeah so what. Doesn’t change a fact that I’d rather watch A level women than C level men in MMA – they are faster and more technical. Just because A level women can’t hang with A level men doesn’t mean I should stop watching all MMA besides A level men, nome saying? It’s still entertaining when you have 2 trained evenly matched MMA fighters going at it.