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“It is crazy! Last year may have been an upset but, believe me, it was no fluke. What is a ‘lucky punch?’ Who do these people think I was trying to punch in the face if not Georges? Seriously – where did the luck come into it? I got him hurt and didn’t let him off the hook. Seriously, you tell me, if you aim at something, and then hit it time and time again, was it luck or did you just do what you were trying to do?… All the pressure is on GSP. He has to live up to all this BS about him, he has to step into the Octagon with a man who punched his lights out last time. I’m rematching a guy I beat inside one round, where’s the pressure? No-one is looking at me to do anything, for whatever reason, so there’s zero pressure on me.”
UFC Welterweight Champion Matt Serra makes the case for his rematch with Georges St. Pierre at UFC 83 in Montreal, Quebec, at the Bell Centre on April 19. It’s hard to disagree with the statement above, which is not to say that Serra is going to win. He just makes a good point.
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I really like this guy.
matt serra is a idiot george st.peirre knoked him out just one or two weeks ago!!!but still have respect for anyone in the ufc.
Matt was thinking he put light off to GSP, but i think he didin’t see this fight…GSP is a True WARRIOR,notting can’t stopping him now. So i don’t want to be in Matt short next fight. Sincerly your’s SGV
He’s gonna get smashed
i hate him but have to agree on the lucky punch theory
I hope GSP knocks that smirk right off his face. Doesn’t this guy look like a munguloid? Am I the only one who sees that? If I were to look at him and didn’t know who he was I would say he looked like a retard.
seems like him and georgie arnt as good of friends as they once were… funny that the only guy he could probably beat out of the top 5 welterweights is the guy at the top of the list…
Serra has said many times that GSP has all the pressure, which is kind of true, but Serra does hold the WW belt. It is the first time he has ever had to defend it, plus he came off a back injury recently…
You also have to remember GSP took serra lightly. Imagine beating one of the top WW fighters at the time, and then having to face a fighter who got a title shot only because he won a reality show. Not to say Serra is not a good fighter but i expect a different fight this time and so do most people.
Hilarious, this guy. He has a good point and I don’t count him out. I think he can do it again but I am still not sure I believe he is going to.
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It wasnt a lucky punch. He beat him and he was the better figher that night. But it aint gonna happen again. GSP is gonna destroy him this time around.
I really hope Matt Serra dominates him again!!!
It will be so funny if Serra beats him again, unlikely, but real funny.
Lol, any really good fighter knows that luck is a major thing in MMA. You can train like hell, be an amazing fighter that has never been KOd, but one solid shot can put anyone down.
Karo should fight serra after he loses since finch more then likely gets a title shot of course im sure matt hughes wants to wtf pwn serra as well.
GSP is an amazing talent and a fighter and does all of us Canadians proud and certainly my favorite.
That said I believe GSP certainly has the ability to avenge this loss to Serra. That being said Serra’s wit and wisdom -never- cease to make me laugh and you cannot help but like him.
While hes dead on about the lucky punch theory, the sun still does shine on every dogs ass once in while.
he won FAIR&SQUARE
I guess Gonzaga’s lucky kick wasn’t a lucky kick.
Hopefully Serra has enjoyed this time at the top. He will go down at the hands of GSP, hard I believe, and after he looses a couple more fights to top 5 guys, he will disappear. Buh-bye!
I like Serra! always have…I agree with everything he said.
There (imo) is no such thing as a “lucky punch”…When you attempt to punch someone, you are intending on hurting your opponant..
Serra is right’ He hurt GSP and went in for the kill…what is lucky about that???
People have to give credit where credit is due..And Matt Serra deserves ALOT of credit..I mean’ GSP/Serra was the biggest up-set in MMa history(imo)…I was rooting for Serra all through TUF.4 , But I NEVER thought he could beat GSP..And he did, so he gets respect for that..
He rocked GSP and instead of “admiring his punch” he went in for the kill….
Like I said I am a big Serra fan, BUT I am an even bigger GSP fan…So agian I will be rooting for GSP..but what Serra did will never be forgotten, nor will I think it was “lucky”…
Hope my boy GSP re-claims his gold…And then I want to see Serra fight Hughesus christ. so I can get back to rooting for Serra in a fight…
cant wait for the fight! hope serra wins aswell
Man I hope he wins this. He looked great in the last fight. So relaxed. I think if he goes in with the same mindset. I think he’ll do it. And as for luck, he’s completely right. If your aiming to do something, then you do it, its not luck.
I think he said there is no pressure 3 times in that quote. To me, that means he is feeling a lot of pressure. Everone was stunned after that first fight (even the Serra fans). Realistically, what are the chances of that happening twice? We will see GSP totally dominate this fight. Bet on it.
He is right tho… theres a TONNE of pressure on GSP and on top of everything the event is in MTL, and him being very weak mentially is really working to his disadvantage. As much as i want GSP to smoke serra i wont be suprised if this fight goes the distance.
Look at that picture of Serra… funny. He could definitely be the poster child for Fluke happenings.
[quote comment="389368"]I guess Gonzaga’s lucky kick wasn’t a lucky kick.[/quote]
What was lucky about it? He tried to kick him in the head and KO him and he succeeded wheres the luck in that? I dont see where luck plays into it. Now if lets say GSP slipped in the ring lost his balance and then got hit THATS lucky. Theres no such thing as a lucky punch or kick its call capitalizing on an opportunity that is given to you and finishing the fight.
BTW, I honestly believe Serra will win. GSP is better in every facet of the MMA game with the exception of Ju Jitsu technique although Im sure GSP is a more athletic Ju Jitsu technician. But theres just something about the way GSP handled the last loss, I think Serra is in his head a bit and just like Serra said ALL the pressure is on GSP and Im a big believer that a man with nothing to loose is the most dangerous kind of man to fight.
[quote comment="389323"]seems like him and georgie arnt as good of friends as they once were… funny that the only guy he could probably beat out of the top 5 welterweights is the guy at the top of the list…[/quote]
I guess GSP said something to the effect that he wasn’t all mentally there for that fight, which is common after the media asks a fighter a thousand times why they feel they lost, finally they feel they have to soul search and give an answer. Serra was very offended by that and things haven’t been the same since. GSP publicly retracted it and gave Serra full credit but things haven’t been the same since, Serra still has a chip on his shoulder.
That’s starting to bug me about Serra’ even though I still like the guy.
GSP in all likelyhood should beat Serra silly this time
lol @ mmamania : “”It’s hard to disagree with the statement above, which is not to say that Serra is going to win. He just makes a good point.”"
i wish allllll the GSP fans could have their webcams on so that I could record all them crying @ 83 as he wobbles down to the canvas (again) TIMBERRRRRRRRRR!!!! and quebec is stunned!! at loss for words!! (sound of crickets in the backround as GSP drops to his knees and bows down to Serra)
I remember Serra saying before their first fight how how the pressure is on GSP because he was the champ, and that this is his first title defense. All the pressure is on the champ! How the tables have turned in what he is saying nowadays. All this no pressure BS is just a little gimmick that (he seems) will cover his ass when he gets completely dominated. And then in the rubber-match (IF there ever is one, considering Serra should fall off the map fast) he will say something like what Hughes said. “I beat him once and I get to do it again.” Look what happened.
[quote comment="389416"]lol @ mmamania : “”It’s hard to disagree with the statement above, which is not to say that Serra is going to win. He just makes a good point.”"
i wish allllll the GSP fans could have their webcams on so that I could record all them crying @ 83 as he wobbles down to the canvas (again) TIMBERRRRRRRRRR!!!! and quebec is stunned!! at loss for words!! (sound of crickets in the backround as GSP drops to his knees and bows down to Serra)[/quote]
haha, that would be awesome! Too bad that cant be arranged, lmao.
If I were GSP I’d try a spinning back fist. He needs to utilize his jab this time. Last time his used it for a while and let Serra come in close.
Did anyone see GSP against Hughes ??? This man is freaky focused and is going to take Serra’s head off….Serra will be lucky to make it back home in one peice….he is outclassed and outskilled…and a loudmouth thats full of himself…the nerve of accusing Matt Hughes of the same
His statement is absoultely right but I still don’t think he will win the second fight. I think it’s one of those cases where GSP wins 8-10 times. The first fight just happened to be one of the 2 times that Serra could actually catch GSP with something and be able to capitalize on it.
[quote comment="389368"]I guess Gonzaga’s lucky kick wasn’t a lucky kick.[/quote]
Most certainly was not as shown during his fight with couture, GG has very good high kicks, furthermore Crocop was alredy F&*^&*\ed up from a barrage of heavy elbows.
I’m canadian and will be cheering for GSP but if Serra wins good for him. I like this guy he speaks his mind and doesn’t sound like he is straight out of WWE in his interviews which is more than I can say about the majority of MMA fighters.
yeah keep yappin like a little annoying dog sera. you are just creating a big target for GSP to put his fist or foot.
Gsp was “arrogant” and destroyed hughes so easily nov 18 2006 he figured serra wouldn’t stand a chance(a conclusion you would come to if you watched hughes/gsp 2 then serra/lytle) and I think he was even trying to show off a bit but serra was a little sharper that night and embarrassed gsp. Yes serra had a perfect evening and it all started with a perfectly placed shot. Was serra “lucky” that night? IMO yes, because if they fought 10 times I doubt he’d hurt gsp in that way again but he did beat him fair and square and did look a little sharper than gsp before gsp got hurt. I think if gsp used the hughes/gsp 3 game plan or the koscheck/gsp gameplan he would have smoked serra, gsp’s wresling is much, much better than serra’s, as a wrestler gsp is a solid 9 and serra is maybe a 5 but a 9 with his bjj so he’d be much tougher on his back than koscheck or hughes but gsp would have handled him(see penn/gsp). I think bj penn is a solid 10 in MMA bjj, serra might be more decorated but penn uses it much better in MMA IMO.
One last thing I want to mention. If serra is a 9 in bjj I would give gsp an 8…but I actually think he’s better than serra is an MMA sense, just look at the way he handled hughes, I know hughes isn’t as good as serra but hughes “DESTROYED” Royce Gracie on the ground, a bjj legend. Gaining top position coupled with vastly superior strength goes a very long way, sorry serra fans but the terror is in for a long or possibly short night come april 19. Gsp will most likely submit serra come the later rounds, tiring him out or t(ko) him at some point, I know serra has punchers chance or a punchers chance at a submission but expect gsp to have his hand raised at the end of the evening.
[quote comment="389401"][quote comment="389368"]I guess Gonzaga’s lucky kick wasn’t a lucky kick.[/quote]
What was lucky about it? He tried to kick him in the head and KO him and he succeeded wheres the luck in that? I dont see where luck plays into it. Now if lets say GSP slipped in the ring lost his balance and then got hit THATS lucky. Theres no such thing as a lucky punch or kick its call capitalizing on an opportunity that is given to you and finishing the fight.
BTW, I honestly believe Serra will win. GSP is better in every facet of the MMA game with the exception of Ju Jitsu technique although Im sure GSP is a more athletic Ju Jitsu technician. But theres just something about the way GSP handled the last loss, I think Serra is in his head a bit and just like Serra said ALL the pressure is on GSP and Im a big believer that a man with nothing to loose is the most dangerous kind of man to fight.[/quote]
What do you mean nothing to lose?? Doesn’t he hold the belt?
off the topic, can anyone tell me what’s the name of Tim Sylvia’s walking out song?
GSP fight in Quebec. If the skills differential is not enough for you guys, then just the fact that he fights in QC will surprise many of you guys.
Serra is OK, he did have a great night, but that’s not gonna happen again against GSP. And, above all, not in Quebec!
sorry, I meant “GSP fights”
To say that since he was aiming for Georges’s head, and he hit him there, it wasn’t luck….thats completely bogus. Serra’s response would answer claims that the punch was an accident, not that it was lucky. Even though he was aiming there, it still could have been luck. If Shaquille O’Neal were to step behind the three-point line and hit a game-winning three, then I guess that he wasn’t lucky because it was where he was aiming. BULLSHIT….thats luck. If I go golfing tomorrow and I hit a hole-in-one….it aint luck because I was aiming there. BULLSHIT….I was lucky. I don’t see how people read this and think Serra is correct with what he is saying. Think about it, it doesn’t make sense. I was throwing darts with my buddies the other day….and even though I’ve hit one double-bullseye in my life, I won the game by hitting just my second double-bullseye. Since I was aiming at it, it wasn’t luck?? LOL, ok? No, it was total luck, but it was no accident. Serra has one knockout in his career….ONE. Just one. For people to think his punch was anything other than luck, you’d be stupid. It wasn’t an accident, as he was aiming for GSP’s head….but it was lucky in that HOLY SHIT, he landed it for once. Think about it….
[quote comment="389449"][quote comment="389401"][quote comment="389368"]I guess Gonzaga’s lucky kick wasn’t a lucky kick.[/quote]
What was lucky about it? He tried to kick him in the head and KO him and he succeeded wheres the luck in that? I dont see where luck plays into it. Now if lets say GSP slipped in the ring lost his balance and then got hit THATS lucky. Theres no such thing as a lucky punch or kick its call capitalizing on an opportunity that is given to you and finishing the fight.
BTW, I honestly believe Serra will win. GSP is better in every facet of the MMA game with the exception of Ju Jitsu technique although Im sure GSP is a more athletic Ju Jitsu technician. But theres just something about the way GSP handled the last loss, I think Serra is in his head a bit and just like Serra said ALL the pressure is on GSP and Im a big believer that a man with nothing to loose is the most dangerous kind of man to fight.[/quote]
What do you mean nothing to lose?? Doesn’t he hold the belt?[/quote]
It’s just like Serra has. He wasnt even supposed to win the belt, and he did. He plans on leaving with the belt. But there is alot more pressure on GSP in this fight.
[quote comment="389368"]I guess Gonzaga’s lucky kick wasn’t a lucky kick.[/quote]
no no no cmon you can’t take it away from the guy being a one kick wonder. GG is a total dissapointment just like CC
Serra had the night of his life no doubt about that, but good luck with trying to repeat that feet. I don’t dislike Serra but hope gsp wins. I don’t dislike Anderson Silva but I was hoping hendo beat him. Everything worked out beautifully for Serra, months of intense sparing, gsp was coming of an injury so he only had 2 weeks to train and was sub-par for the fight, I don’t know but to me thats kind of lucky. He’ll have NO luck April 19 you can guarantee that, gsp will most likely OVER estimate Serra this time be 110% better than he was with hughes and possibly really hurt him. Serra’s coming of a huge layoff and I really don’t know how he could train intensely coming off a serious injury, worse than St.Pierre’s. Serra is no hughes in the grappling department in MMA, he handled lytle quite handily, something serra couldn’t do. Saying serra is Gsp’s kryptonite is bordering on the ridiculous if you asked me, look at the big picture and take all variables into account. Yes serra did look a little better than gsp did before the big hit, but gsp has lost a round before and won the fight ex penn and koscheck(2 of the judges). Serra is a good fighter in my opinion and definitely a top 10, heres how I see things.
hughes vs gsp 1
wrestling 9 8
submissions 8 7
striking 6 8 close but hughes won with the submission
first fight Hughes s gsp 2
wrestling 8 9
submissions ? ?
striking 7 9 not close gsp owned hughes on the feet and ended with a perfect head kick and got the t(ko)but hughes looked better on his feet.
second fight serra vs lytle
wrestling 6 5
submissions 9 8
striking 6 9 lytle clearly had better hand and you could tell serra wanted no part of lytles hand and is slightly better at grappling than lytle but lytle is good enough to nullify serra’s attempts and serra won a boring split dec.
third fight gsp vs koscheck
wrestling 9 8
submissions 8 7
striking 8 7 Koscheck is good(above average but gsp is just to much for him, better in all area’s and gsp easily won the decision.
fourth fight serra vs gsp
wrestling ? ?
submissions ? ?
striking 7 6 Serra looked slightly better than gsp for the 3 minutes the fight lasted and landed the perfect hit, kept the pressure on gsp and over all had a perfect night, serra wins by t(ko)
fifth fight hughes vs gsp
wrestling 8 10
submissions 7 8
striking 6 8 Gsp looked scary good in this fight and you could tell he wanted to own hughes in the grappling department as he beat his last time standing, gsp answered all questions as to who’s the better grappler, gsp won easily by submission in the second round.
If gsp keeps improving he’ll be ridiculously hard to stop come april 19, and I highly doubt serra will be as good as he was last year, I hope I’m wrong because other wise its going to be a lame one sided fight, we’ll see.
suddenly serra thinks hes the best in the world but not to long ago he barely beat shonie carter in a rematch…
GSP Nuthuggers really love to take the focus off of the actual fight and emphasize fights from 3 years ago, or what they think will happen. Serra’s right- it’s as if the first fight never happened.
He’s a guess as to where each guy will be come april 19.
serra
wrestling 4
submissions 8
striking 6 He’s most likely be if worse shape than fighting lytle as he’s coming off an injury.
st.pierre
wrestling 9
submissions 9
striking 9 He’ll focus on submissions and striking for this fight and IMO there’s going to be a huge difference in there fighting ability for this fight. If there both like I say, its very unlikely to get out of the first round.
[quote comment="389354"]Karo should fight serra after he loses since finch more then likely gets a title shot of course im sure matt hughes wants to wtf pwn serra as well.[/quote]
Karo already beat Serra.
Serra has nothing to lose? Does anyone really believe that?, EVERYONE is riding gsp’s sack, almost everyone, poor serra, he did win fair and square but he’s dreaming if he thinks that was a NORMAL, prepared, 100% gsp. IF serra loses badly everyone thinking his first fight was a fluke will just smile knowingly and gsp doubters will say “best out of 3 wins”, see penn fans. If its a normal night, both fighters well prepared it should last a little longer than the hughes/gsp 3 fight but not much, just because hughes sucks on his back and serra is comfortable there, but gsp win still win. Serra is more transparent than he realizes and is just trying to make himself feel better LOL.
Serra hurt his back fighting strong wrestlers getting ready for hughes, ouch, gsp is the best there is and will most likely really hurt serra this time.
Its too important for future fights, GSP has to win!!!! Its bigger than GSP, but he has to win for it all to matter the way it should (Penn fans know what im talking about) The best in the world has to be determined eventually and i feel that GSP should be in that conversation (as the guy who lost to BJ Penn for all the marbles, and when it mattered most) Honor is what its about and theres no honor in fighting the second rate, the pretty good, the guy with holes in his game. Complete fighters only!!!! Get ‘em GSP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or you will already have lost the marbles that BJ Penn wants back.
I got to agree with the guy and on top of that I’m also a crazy guy that thinks he’ll win again. To be honest, during their first match he was dominating GSP, I think it could also be the size difference that gives him the advantage, Serra is much taller than GSP. On top of all of these he’s also a better speaker than GSP, kinda of like a white smaller version of rampage but less obnoxious. Anyways, I think he’d be a better champion than GSP so my vote is for him.
[quote comment="389493"]GSP Nuthuggers really love to take the focus off of the actual fight and emphasize fights from 3 years ago, or what they think will happen. Serra’s right- it’s as if the first fight never happened.[/quote]
I don’t know what idiot calendar you’re using, but GSP won a clear decision over Kos 8 months ago, and tooled Hughes 3 months ago. Serra has done jack during that time. And it’s guys like you that don’t understand the difference between a great night (ie. Serra over GSP, Chonan over Anderson) and who the better fighter is. Was Chonan’s sub lucky? Hell no. Was Serra’s punch lucky? Hell no. Is Chonan better than Anderson? Hell no. Is Serra better than GSP? Hell no.
Guys like you have been popping up in every Serra thread. But once I make my point,I never get an intelligent reply.
Its too important for future fights, GSP has to win!!!! Its bigger than GSP, but he has to win for it all to matter the way it should (Penn fans know what im talking about) The best in the world has to be determined eventually and i feel that GSP should be in that conversation (as the guy who lost to BJ Penn for all the marbles, and when it mattered most) Honor is what its about and theres no honor in fighting the second rate, the pretty good, the guy with holes in his game. Complete fighters only!!!! Get “em GSP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or you will already have lost the marbles that BJ Penn wants back.
Oh 2 fights I forget to mention
karo vs gsp
karo
wrestling 7
subissions 8
striking 7
gsp
wrestling 8
submissions 7
striking 8 gsp wins by close decision, he overpowered karo who was better at submissions but gsp is a better wrestler and was stronger so he got the dec.
penn vs gsp
penn
wrestling 8
submissions 10
striking 8
gsp
wrestling 9
submissions 8
striking 8 very close fight as you can see by my numbers, it could have gone either way, gsp was stronger and a better wrestler so he got the close split dec. Striking they were pretty even, gsp had better kicks and penn had the better hands. Gsp also had the superior cardio that evening but I think it was more he was just too strong for penn, like hughes, penn really needs to pack on more muscle if he wants to dominate the welter weights like the light weights.
OK here is the truth, I’m sick of all this talk, WATCH THE FIGHT AGAIN, he hits GSP in the back of the head…. BIG JOHN should have seen it and gave GSP time to recover, he didn’t, GSP was dazed and it was lights out from then, he DID not outstrike him like some people like to say.
Anyone who knos MMA knos that when you get hit in the back of the head you get some time to recover. I.E. BROCK LESNAR vs FRANK MIR.
Let Serra do all his talking, as far as I’m, concerned the ONLY chance he has is an illegal hit like the last fight.
[quote comment="389507"]Serra has nothing to lose? Does anyone really believe that?, EVERYONE is riding gsp’s sack, almost everyone, poor serra, he did win fair and square but he’s dreaming if he thinks that was a NORMAL, prepared, 100% gsp. IF serra loses badly everyone thinking his first fight was a fluke will just smile knowingly and gsp doubters will say “best out of 3 wins”, see penn fans. If its a normal night, both fighters well prepared it should last a little longer than the hughes/gsp 3 fight but not much, just because hughes sucks on his back and serra is comfortable there, but gsp win still win. Serra is more transparent than he realizes and is just trying to make himself feel better LOL.[/quote]
Ummmmm, Penn fans can be GSP fans also bro. Its GSP fans that draw that line in the sand guy, when its all said and done Penn fans will smile and say i told you so to many many people. Its more of a sure thing than GSP beating down Serra this time around . . .
BTW … there is a TON of pressure on Serra too, he knos what everyone says about him. And he knos a loss and he drops to his normal I’d say rank 10 – 15 in the welterweight division.
It was a fluke.
[quote comment="389532"]OK here is the truth, I’m sick of all this talk, WATCH THE FIGHT AGAIN, he hits GSP in the back of the head…. BIG JOHN should have seen it and gave GSP time to recover, he didn’t, GSP was dazed and it was lights out from then, he DID not outstrike him like some people like to say.
Anyone who knos MMA knos that when you get hit in the back of the head you get some time to recover. I.E. BROCK LESNAR vs FRANK MIR.
Let Serra do all his talking, as far as I’m, concerned the ONLY chance he has is an illegal hit like the last fight.[/quote]
It wasn’t a full hit to the back of the head, it was an unintentional swing that scraped gsp’s head. GSP was bringing his head down at the same time serra was throwing an overhand and it scraped gsp’s back of the head. That’s what happened, 1 it was not intentional, 2 it was not full contact, 3 I really can’t see it being stopped for that, sorry (and no, I’m not a noob).
If gsp and serra are in the shape I think there going to be it should be over in the first round. If serra is 100% it should go maybe 3 rounds but serra no matter how well prepared he if could keep up with gsp’s riddum, he get tired by the third round and like penn lose, but serra isn’t penn and will get t(ko)ed or submitted. There are SO many factors influencing a fight, no way any two fights will be the same, how in shape, prepared, even practicing in all areas, not neglecting one area(koscheck and hendo IMO) both these guys are arrogant with there wrestling ability which he HAVE to maintain to be at the same level, here’s how I saw the hendo vs silva fight
silva
wrestling 7
striking 10
submissions 9
hendo
wrestling 8
striking 8
submissions 7 Hendo’s only chance was to lay and pray like he did in round one, which he barely won, got impatient, underestimated silva like franklin and got t(ko)ed in the second. No one in MMA could stand the whole fight with silva, gsp very well prepared in striking “might” be able to beat him if he keeps things unpredictable, can’t see anyone else coming close.
I’d like to introduce a new term. Doing a “Serra”. Translation: Winning against all odds. Winning when you are not expected to. Winning Convincingly when you are the under dog.
I really like both guys and believe that they are great ambassadors for the sport. GSP is no doubt the 10 to 1 favourite but i’d LOVE to see Serra do it again. It would be one of the greatest efforts of all time and so dam funny too!!
[quote comment="389532"]OK here is the truth, I’m sick of all this talk, WATCH THE FIGHT AGAIN, he hits GSP in the back of the head…. BIG JOHN should have seen it and gave GSP time to recover, he didn’t, GSP was dazed and it was lights out from then, he DID not outstrike him like some people like to say.
Anyone who knos MMA knos that when you get hit in the back of the head you get some time to recover. I.E. BROCK LESNAR vs FRANK MIR.
Let Serra do all his talking, as far as I’m, concerned the ONLY chance he has is an illegal hit like the last fight.[/quote]
Hah!! You’re kidding. Worst case of sour grapes i’ve ever heard. Suck it up brutha
My money is on serra to win it AGAIN.
[quote post="5520"]Hendo’s only chance was to lay and pray like he did in round one, which he barely won, got impatient, underestimated silva like franklin and got t(ko)ed in the second. [/quote]
Hendo got subbed, bot TKO’d.
If gsp fights silva like the koscheck/gsp fight he wins 9 out of 10 fights. If he fights like the serra/gsp fight he loses 9 out of 10 fights, its all about having the right strategy for the fight and jackson is a wizard.
“In my experience, there’s no such thing as luck.”
-Obi Wan kenobi
[quote comment="389576"][quote post="5520"]Hendo’s only chance was to lay and pray like he did in round one, which he barely won, got impatient, underestimated silva like franklin and got t(ko)ed in the second. [/quote]
Hendo got subbed, bot TKO’d.[/quote]
Sorry he only got subbed after he got stunned from standing too long, I meant which lead to the submission.
[quote comment="389571"]My money is on serra to win it AGAIN.[/quote]
Good luck with that, you’ll need it, you should win good money if serra can cash in on punchers chance again.
matt (the fluke)serra!sounds like he s trying to prove to himself he s not a fluke.FNNNNN FLUKE!
Nathan i know there are a lot of GSP fans and nutthuggers out there, but you go above and beyond the rest!!!! you should be proud. i got my favorite fighters just like everyone else but geeezzz. are you his brother or something? i will die laughing if Serra dusts him again. Im not even a big Serra fan i just like hearing all the BS excuses why he lost and how much more dominate and better than everyone else he is but still got ktfo. i kinda feel sorry for Serra this next time around, cuz after ko’s GSP again the crowd may swarm him and riot. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA..
Serra is a joke, he is going to get rocked…..its going to be a YEAR since his last fight, he just had surgery and gained all kinds of weight, Yeah he will cut and be ready, but thats just more work for him, Serra is not the same person he was when he fought GSP, bottom line………………and GSP is coming off 2 big wins and looks better then he ever has……I just cant see Serra coming out with a win…NO WAY!!
Enjoy ur last 3 weeks of fame. After that u can lose to hughes and then u can go back to being the middle of the road fighter that u are. I like Serra but Im just being real people.
[quote comment="389568"][quote comment="389532"]OK here is the truth, I’m sick of all this talk, WATCH THE FIGHT AGAIN, he hits GSP in the back of the head…. BIG JOHN should have seen it and gave GSP time to recover, he didn’t, GSP was dazed and it was lights out from then, he DID not outstrike him like some people like to say.
Anyone who knos MMA knos that when you get hit in the back of the head you get some time to recover. I.E. BROCK LESNAR vs FRANK MIR.
Let Serra do all his talking, as far as I’m, concerned the ONLY chance he has is an illegal hit like the last fight.[/quote]
Hah!! You’re kidding. Worst case of sour grapes i’ve ever heard. Suck it up brutha
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Yes he did get hit in back of the head, but I don’t believe it’s illegal in standing position… at least I’ve never heard or seen it called, especially with a kick that lands in the neck/back of the head area.
[quote comment="389532"]OK here is the truth, I’m sick of all this talk, WATCH THE FIGHT AGAIN, he hits GSP in the back of the head…. BIG JOHN should have seen it and gave GSP time to recover, he didn’t, GSP was dazed and it was lights out from then, he DID not outstrike him like some people like to say.
Anyone who knos MMA knos that when you get hit in the back of the head you get some time to recover. I.E. BROCK LESNAR vs FRANK MIR.
Let Serra do all his talking, as far as I’m, concerned the ONLY chance he has is an illegal hit like the last fight.[/quote]
WELL IF THATS TRUE! It’s GSP own fault for having poor head movement. he didnt hit him in the back of the head from over top of him or from his back, Serra threw a hook and GSP ducked into it standing toe to toe. so your BS theory is retarded
[quote comment="389472"]To say that since he was aiming for Georges’s head, and he hit him there, it wasn’t luck….thats completely bogus. Serra’s response would answer claims that the punch was an accident, not that it was lucky. Even though he was aiming there, it still could have been luck. If Shaquille O’Neal were to step behind the three-point line and hit a game-winning three, then I guess that he wasn’t lucky because it was where he was aiming. BULLSHIT….thats luck. If I go golfing tomorrow and I hit a hole-in-one….it aint luck because I was aiming there. BULLSHIT….I was lucky. I don’t see how people read this and think Serra is correct with what he is saying. Think about it, it doesn’t make sense. I was throwing darts with my buddies the other day….and even though I’ve hit one double-bullseye in my life, I won the game by hitting just my second double-bullseye. Since I was aiming at it, it wasn’t luck?? LOL, ok? No, it was total luck, but it was no accident. Serra has one knockout in his career….ONE. Just one. For people to think his punch was anything other than luck, you’d be stupid. It wasn’t an accident, as he was aiming for GSP’s head….but it was lucky in that HOLY SHIT, he landed it for once. Think about it….[/quote]
Very nice analagoy cory.
[quote comment="389568"][quote comment="389532"]OK here is the truth, I’m sick of all this talk, WATCH THE FIGHT AGAIN, he hits GSP in the back of the head…. BIG JOHN should have seen it and gave GSP time to recover, he didn’t, GSP was dazed and it was lights out from then, he DID not outstrike him like some people like to say.
Anyone who knos MMA knos that when you get hit in the back of the head you get some time to recover. I.E. BROCK LESNAR vs FRANK MIR.
Let Serra do all his talking, as far as I’m, concerned the ONLY chance he has is an illegal hit like the last fight.[/quote]
Hah!! You’re kidding. Worst case of sour grapes i’ve ever heard. Suck it up brutha
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Serra was the better fighter that night, had the better game plan, landed a perfect rare kind of hit and won, thats how I saw it, he had the element of surprise and gsp foolishly underestimated him. Serra improved greatly with all his sparing and gsp was worse than he was fighting hughes but thought “since its serra even at 70% I should still win” very arrogant, you cannot underestimate anyone, it just takes one punch to ruin your night. I still think gsp would win 9 out of 10 fights(prepared with the right game plan)and serra was very fortunate to fight gsp at this time in his life, I’ll say fortunate not lucky. I truly feel bad for serra, the accomplishment of his life and no respect for it. Serra was the better man that night, should savor the win and ignore the doubters, but sadly he sounds kind of insecure right now and is letting people get to him, he shouldn’t. He’s a top ten in my book in the welter weight division, a 9 out of 10 as a bjj specialist and has had incredible fortune and exposer for his schools. Serra needs to focus on the positive and honestly take what ever comes his way, you can’t be number one at every thing. He had his time in the sun like hughes,gsp and penn, every dog has his day. Man if I was him I would have retired and never take a fight with someone like hughes or gsp after an injury.
[quote comment="389599"]Nathan i know there are a lot of GSP fans and nutthuggers out there, but you go above and beyond the rest!!!! you should be proud. i got my favorite fighters just like everyone else but geeezzz. are you his brother or something? i will die laughing if Serra dusts him again. Im not even a big Serra fan i just like hearing all the BS excuses why he lost and how much more dominate and better than everyone else he is but still got ktfo. i kinda feel sorry for Serra this next time around, cuz after ko’s GSP again the crowd may swarm him and riot. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA..[/quote]
I’m just being honest man, I WANTED anderson silva to lose and I don’t like him but he’s crazy talented and the best out there. I usually want the underdog to win but I like gsp, he’s a humble, Canadian like me, very hard working guy with talent not as much as silva or penn IMO. I’m just calling it like I see it. Look at the credit I give penn and silva and I don’t even like them, why isn’t that nut huggery?
You might laugh but I’ll never comment on this site again for a long time if gsp loses. I used to like dan severn a long time ago and gsp has taken his place, ya he’s my favorite fighter and I wouldn’t watch the ufc if he wasn’t in it, so your right I guess I’m on his sack LOL, and no I’m not his brother, never met him before.
[quote comment="389353"]Lol, any really good fighter knows that luck is a major thing in MMA. You can train like hell, be an amazing fighter that has never been KOd, but one solid shot can put anyone down.[/quote]
…I dont think luck is a huge issue in MMA at all. Its not luck if you undertrain, its not luck if you take a guy lightly, its not luck if you are out of shape and you start to drop your hands, its not luck if the other guy can see that you are getting tired and notices a hole in your defense and drops a huge right hand.
Talking about luck is nothing but an EXCUSE. The Iceman says it best…I just made a mistake and its as simple as that! No excuses, no lucky shot…he went on to say that they train for that situation in camp and he just led with a body shot which is something his trainer always tells him not to do.
Luck would be if a fighter slips on the way in and lands on the other guys knee that he was putting up for defense…let me know when you see someone get lucky like that.
I do think this will be a completely different fight then the first one but we cant count Serra out cause he has a lot of things going for him…strong looping punches and great BJJ. I am excited because the UFC has marketed this fight sooooo well!!! Look at how many comments are on the blogs for this fight. They are both doing a ton of interviews and mag. articles and some TV appearances…Dana White is behind the scenes just laughing all the way to the bank! Not to mention the event sold out in record time so be prepared for a massive live gate total!
i would bet my life if the same thing happens,BUT this time GSP wins all you would say( GSP THE BEST OUT THERE AND BEST P4P FIGHTER IN THE WORLD) and there would be no argument about it. so all you out there making excuses for him you need to come up for air. i really hope Serra kicks his azz again, not becuz i like Serra just becuz i hate GSP fans and their BS excuses. regardless of the out come April 19 i still can watch the highlight reel of GSP getting KTFO and tapping!!!!
[quote comment="389581"]“In my experience, there’s no such thing as luck.”
-Obi Wan kenobi[/quote]
Thank you!
[quote comment="389645"]You might laugh but I’ll never comment on this site again for a long time if gsp loses. I used to like dan severn a long time ago and gsp has taken his place, ya he’s my favorite fighter and I wouldn’t watch the ufc if he wasn’t in it, so your right I guess I’m on his sack LOL, and no I’m not his brother, never met him before.[/quote]
thats cool man! ya know nathan im glad you got a sense of humor bout the whole situation.
[quote comment="389568"][quote comment="389532"]OK here is the truth, I’m sick of all this talk, WATCH THE FIGHT AGAIN, he hits GSP in the back of the head…. BIG JOHN should have seen it and gave GSP time to recover, he didn’t, GSP was dazed and it was lights out from then, he DID not outstrike him like some people like to say.
Anyone who knos MMA knos that when you get hit in the back of the head you get some time to recover. I.E. BROCK LESNAR vs FRANK MIR.
Let Serra do all his talking, as far as I’m, concerned the ONLY chance he has is an illegal hit like the last fight.[/quote]
Hah!! You’re kidding. Worst case of sour grapes i’ve ever heard. Suck it up brutha
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All I heard was blah blah blah excuse excuse excuse…Dude, GSP lost get over it. Just wait until the second fight and then he will get the chance he deserves to show what he can do against Serra but just please stop with all the cry’n and excuse making …this is a mans sport!
[quote comment="389518"][quote comment="389493"]GSP Nuthuggers really love to take the focus off of the actual fight and emphasize fights from 3 years ago, or what they think will happen. Serra’s right- it’s as if the first fight never happened.[/quote]
I don’t know what idiot calendar you’re using, but GSP won a clear decision over Kos 8 months ago, and tooled Hughes 3 months ago. Serra has done jack during that time. And it’s guys like you that don’t understand the difference between a great night (ie. Serra over GSP, Chonan over Anderson) and who the better fighter is. Was Chonan’s sub lucky? Hell no. Was Serra’s punch lucky? Hell no. Is Chonan better than Anderson? Hell no. Is Serra better than GSP? Hell no.
Guys like you have been popping up in every Serra thread. But once I make my point,I never get an intelligent reply.[/quote]
Oh SNAP! Well put! (And I notice that no one has responded with an intelligent reply yet- as you predicted, lol!)
If I didn’t like gsp I would be with you jdawg and be thrilled for serra to beat gsp the way he did, me back in nov 2006. Back in november 2006 I was a big hughes fan and couldn’t sleep that night gsp kicked his arse so bad and never ordered pay per view again (I just watch fights on the internet now for free) I was so upset, but gsp grew on me and I saw his talent and potential, I still like hughes but he’s #2 in my book now. I really didn’t like seeing gsp humiliate him the way he did, wanted gsp to win but hoped it would be a close fight. I actually want the serra/gsp fight to be a close fight and hope it lasts over 3 rounds which I highly doubt and want gsp to win, hope its a slug fest and a good fight not some lame one sided victory like hughes/gsp 2 and 3.
Can’t stand this guy… Payback is a bitch!
Serra KO’d GSP. Relax Matt Serra! The world knows…Sorry that you’re 5′6 and should be fighting at 155. GSP is still the more athletically gifted, more well rounded, bigger, younger fighter.
It really doesn’t matter that you already KO’d him, that fat remains that it is still possible to happen agian (among other things). Matt didn’t beat Karo, didn’t beat BJ, didn’t beat Matt Hughes twice, squeaked Chris Lytle. Matt wants to swing all the momentum his way, but facts are facts. This is MMA, for all I know St. Pierre might get injured, or Matt Serra could be dropped on his head. All I know is that Matt is doing all the talking, last time he barely said a word. Anybody that knows anything knows…keep talking Matt, we’ll see who’s got who’s number.
or serra/gsp 1 for that matter, I want to see a real fight. I’ll correct myself I used to be a huge dan severn fan only watched the ufc when he was on back in 1990’s. Then in 2006 I started watching the ufc again as I found out hughes destroyed royce gracie and was very impressed with him as gracie beat my hero dan severn, hughes looked incredible. I hated gracie he was kind of like a villian to me, a dirty fighter he tried to hurt fighters after they tapped. I loved watching hughes pound a way at him made my year and hughes was my new hero. Then gsp comes and wipes the floor with hughes and I’m shocked and saddened after that fight. I paid close to $50 canadian to see my favorite fighter get destroyed, god that sucked. Gsp just impresses me thats all, manners and talent and trains smarter than anyone else in the ufc. He’s up there with randy couture for smart game plans in my book, other than his serra and penn fights he’s done very well, I’ll shut up now, I’ve said too much.
My favorite fights diego/karo and hughes/penn 2, both exciting and back and forth.
I can honestly see Serra shockin the world again…I perdict..Gsp gets rocked standing up..takes down serra like he does too everyone else..then Serra gets him with a triangle choke or an armbar
[quote comment="389675"]or serra/gsp 1 for that matter, I want to see a real fight. I’ll correct myself I used to be a huge dan severn fan only watched the ufc when he was on back in 1990’s. Then in 2006 I started watching the ufc again as I found out hughes destroyed royce gracie and was very impressed with him as gracie beat my hero dan severn, hughes looked incredible. I hated gracie he was kind of like a villian to me, a dirty fighter he tried to hurt fighters after they tapped. I loved watching hughes pound a way at him made my year and hughes was my new hero. Then gsp comes and wipes the floor with hughes and I’m shocked and saddened after that fight. I paid close to $50 canadian to see my favorite fighter get destroyed, god that sucked. Gsp just impresses me thats all, manners and talent and trains smarter than anyone else in the ufc. He’s up there with randy couture for smart game plans in my book, other than his serra and penn fights he’s done very well, I’ll shut up now, I’ve said too much.[/quote]
i understand and feel the same way about Tim Sylvia when he beat my hero in Andrei Arlovski. i get ya. i was just bustin your balls man!
[quote comment="389588"]matt (the fluke)serra!sounds like he s trying to prove to himself he s not a fluke.FNNNNN FLUKE![/quote]
How was it a fluke? he punched gsp’s lights out. he won fair and square. i don’t even like serra, and i prefer gsp but you gotta give credit when its due. Serra was the better man last time around, theres nothing else to it.
[quote comment="389612"][quote comment="389568"][quote comment="389532"]OK here is the truth, I’m sick of all this talk, WATCH THE FIGHT AGAIN, he hits GSP in the back of the head…. BIG JOHN should have seen it and gave GSP time to recover, he didn’t, GSP was dazed and it was lights out from then, he DID not outstrike him like some people like to say.
Anyone who knos MMA knos that when you get hit in the back of the head you get some time to recover. I.E. BROCK LESNAR vs FRANK MIR.
Let Serra do all his talking, as far as I’m, concerned the ONLY chance he has is an illegal hit like the last fight.[/quote]
Hah!! You’re kidding. Worst case of sour grapes i’ve ever heard. Suck it up brutha
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Yes he did get hit in back of the head, but I don’t believe it’s illegal in standing position… at least I’ve never heard or seen it called, especially with a kick that lands in the neck/back of the head area.[/quote]
Absolutely agree. Most high kick knockouts end up being rabbit punch type knockouts, it’s part and parcel of the sport.
if stpierre losses i hope people quit putting him in same class as Anderson Silva as 1 of the top PfP fighters in the world. in his first & only title defense he got KOed by Serra.
after beating the hell out of the Crippler Leben & then taking the belt from ACE Fraklin. Anderson has defended hos belt successfully 3 times & also beat lutter who didnt make weight in a non title match. that makes him 6-0 in the UFC , now thats worthy of top PfP IMO.
i kinda like stpierre but he doesnt belong in the same class as Anderson. whooping Hughes was pretty impressive but not being able to finish KOS, was something he should have been able to do in the 3rd when he was on top.
[quote comment="389645"]You might laugh but I’ll never comment on this site again for a long time if gsp loses. I used to like dan severn a long time ago and gsp has taken his place, ya he’s my favorite fighter and I wouldn’t watch the ufc if he wasn’t in it, so your right I guess I’m on his sack LOL, and no I’m not his brother, never met him before.[/quote]
Love a man with passion! How can you not love GSP??? GSP & The Spider are pound for pound the best in the world and dam classy too.
[quote comment="389615"][quote comment="389472"]To say that since he was aiming for Georges’s head, and he hit him there, it wasn’t luck….thats completely bogus. Serra’s response would answer claims that the punch was an accident, not that it was lucky. Even though he was aiming there, it still could have been luck. If Shaquille O’Neal were to step behind the three-point line and hit a game-winning three, then I guess that he wasn’t lucky because it was where he was aiming. BULLSHIT….thats luck. If I go golfing tomorrow and I hit a hole-in-one….it aint luck because I was aiming there. BULLSHIT….I was lucky. I don’t see how people read this and think Serra is correct with what he is saying. Think about it, it doesn’t make sense. I was throwing darts with my buddies the other day….and even though I’ve hit one double-bullseye in my life, I won the game by hitting just my second double-bullseye. Since I was aiming at it, it wasn’t luck?? LOL, ok? No, it was total luck, but it was no accident. Serra has one knockout in his career….ONE. Just one. For people to think his punch was anything other than luck, you’d be stupid. It wasn’t an accident, as he was aiming for GSP’s head….but it was lucky in that HOLY SHIT, he landed it for once. Think about it….[/quote]
Very nice analagoy cory.[/quote]
No it’s not a nice analogy at all. By this logic anytime a person gets knocked out it’s luck. The stupidity is trying to compare a hole in one to a knockout punch.
[quote post="5520"]No it’s not a nice analogy at all. By this logic anytime a person gets knocked out it’s luck. The stupidity is trying to compare a hole in one to a knockout punch.[/quote]
No, you obviously can’t understand a simple analogy. Not every KO is luck. It depends on who’s doing it. If Michael Jordan makes a 3-pointer, it’s not luck. If Shaq makes a 3-pointer, there’s luck involved (it’s never just blind luck). If Chuck Liddell gets a KO, that’s not luck. Matt Serra’s KO? There was luck involved, but I’ll give him credit where it’s due. He deserves to be champ right now, and he’s earned the big payday.
[quote comment="389706"][quote comment="389615"][quote comment="389472"]To say that since he was aiming for Georges’s head, and he hit him there, it wasn’t luck….thats completely bogus. Serra’s response would answer claims that the punch was an accident, not that it was lucky. Even though he was aiming there, it still could have been luck. If Shaquille O’Neal were to step behind the three-point line and hit a game-winning three, then I guess that he wasn’t lucky because it was where he was aiming. BULLSHIT….thats luck. If I go golfing tomorrow and I hit a hole-in-one….it aint luck because I was aiming there. BULLSHIT….I was lucky. I don’t see how people read this and think Serra is correct with what he is saying. Think about it, it doesn’t make sense. I was throwing darts with my buddies the other day….and even though I’ve hit one double-bullseye in my life, I won the game by hitting just my second double-bullseye. Since I was aiming at it, it wasn’t luck?? LOL, ok? No, it was total luck, but it was no accident. Serra has one knockout in his career….ONE. Just one. For people to think his punch was anything other than luck, you’d be stupid. It wasn’t an accident, as he was aiming for GSP’s head….but it was lucky in that HOLY SHIT, he landed it for once. Think about it….[/quote]
Very nice analagoy cory.[/quote]
No it’s not a nice analogy at all. By this logic anytime a person gets knocked out it’s luck. The stupidity is trying to compare a hole in one to a knockout punch.[/quote]
I didn’t say every knockout is luck. Just when its your only knockout of your life….lol.
[quote comment="389700"]if stpierre losses i hope people quit putting him in same class as Anderson Silva as 1 of the top PfP fighters in the world. in his first & only title defense he got KOed by Serra.
after beating the hell out of the Crippler Leben & then taking the belt from ACE Fraklin. Anderson has defended hos belt successfully 3 times & also beat lutter who didnt make weight in a non title match. that makes him 6-0 in the UFC , now thats worthy of top PfP IMO.
i kinda like stpierre but he doesnt belong in the same class as Anderson. whooping Hughes was pretty impressive but not being able to finish KOS, was something he should have been able to do in the 3rd when he was on top.[/quote]
I see your point but silva is simply the best striker in mma and for the last 6 fights or so, except lutter everyone tried to stand with him, dumb. All t(ko)’s with in 2 rounds, but a smart, talented wrestler would beat him with good sub defense.
[quote comment="389368"]I guess Gonzaga’s lucky kick wasn’t a lucky kick.[/quote]
yeah im onto that,sometime one great fighter can caught by something because they didnt expect that their opponent will not going to do that stuff.
like crocop fighting gonzaga & gonzaga is a BJJ wizard so crocop didnt expect at all that gonzaga will threw a high kick on him.
and also tim silvia got caught by randy with a solid right hand & couture is a grecko roman wrestling so tim also didnt expect him to threw a right hand on him.
as well as GSP ofcourse,alhtough he may know that serra has a heavy hand but maybe GSP thinks that serra will try to put him on that ground since serra is BJJ black belt & GSP knows that he’s much better striker & serra will not going to stand at him for long,so … Got caught.
a big lesson eh?
[quote comment="389401"][quote comment="389368"]I guess Gonzaga’s lucky kick wasn’t a lucky kick.[/quote]
What was lucky about it? He tried to kick him in the head and KO him and he succeeded wheres the luck in that? I dont see where luck plays into it. Now if lets say GSP slipped in the ring lost his balance and then got hit THATS lucky. Theres no such thing as a lucky punch or kick its call capitalizing on an opportunity that is given to you and finishing the fight.
BTW, I honestly believe Serra will win. GSP is better in every facet of the MMA game with the exception of Ju Jitsu technique although Im sure GSP is a more athletic Ju Jitsu technician. But theres just something about the way GSP handled the last loss, I think Serra is in his head a bit and just like Serra said ALL the pressure is on GSP and Im a big believer that a man with nothing to loose is the most dangerous kind of man to fight.[/quote]
A man with everything to lose is the most dangerous kind and GSP has everything to lose if he loses to Serra twice. The way GSP handled the loss was, to train for 1 year straight, with only 2 weeks off after the Kos fight. Serra is in his head alright, Gsp is obsessed with redemption. Serra was the better fighter that night,but that was the worst GSP ever and I think any top 10 WW would have beaten him that night. A lot of people said Hughes (including Hughes) was in GSP’s head after a first round loss and look what happened in the 2nd and 3rd fight. Serra might as well butter his forehead, because he is TOAST!
Lucky moves only exist to the fan, no one who’s actually trained believes in luck when trying to commit themselves to a move.
[quote comment="389476"][quote comment="389368"]I guess Gonzaga’s lucky kick wasn’t a lucky kick.[/quote]
no no no cmon you can’t take it away from the guy being a one kick wonder. GG is a total dissapointment just like CC[/quote]
Sure GG might be a disapointment, but how can anyone say his CC victory was from a lucky kick. He was dominating the whole fight before the kick. Then he broke Randy’s arm with a kick and he was kicking the shit out of Werdum for the first round. Werdum crumbled to the ground at least twice from those insainly powerful and fast kicks. There are some things about GG one could doubt, but it sure as hell ain’t his kicks.
Hey man Serra won the last fight…….. grant it. Give him credit.
Next fight he is going to get smack up, my boy GSP is going to just take his time and really avenge his loss. I don’t think he wants to got for a quick submission or anything.
Serra can talk all he wants for now cause he beat last time, he will not even be able to talk come next month.
actually i believe it WAS a fluke.
[quote comment="389493"]GSP Nuthuggers really love to take the focus off of the actual fight and emphasize fights from 3 years ago, or what they think will happen. Serra’s right- it’s as if the first fight never happened.[/quote]
Oh, you mean like bringing up the fact to the Serra nuthuggers that Hughes beat GSP ONCE and has been OWNED ever since. These are just examples of what’s to come for you Serra fans who think he will KO GSP again. Do you actually think it is probable that Serra will run through GSP twice in a row.
The last fight doesnt mean anything. GSP has lost twice. He lost to Hughes in the first meeting. I am pretty sure the next two times they met GSP kicked his ass. Now GSP lost to Serra. I am gonna follow the trend no matter how small that GSP comes out and makes Serra his bitch.
[quote comment="389514"]I got to agree with the guy and on top of that I’m also a crazy guy that thinks he’ll win again. To be honest, during their first match he was dominating GSP, I think it could also be the size difference that gives him the advantage, Serra is much taller than GSP. On top of all of these he’s also a better speaker than GSP, kinda of like a white smaller version of rampage but less obnoxious. Anyways, I think he’d be a better champion than GSP so my vote is for him.[/quote]
Is 5′6″ taller than 5′10″ in your world? Serra is a midget. Where did you get the idea that he is much taller than GSP.
[quote post="5520"]I got to agree with the guy and on top of that I’m also a crazy guy that thinks he’ll win again. To be honest, during their first match he was dominating GSP, I think it could also be the size difference that gives him the advantage, Serra is much taller than GSP. On top of all of these he’s also a better speaker than GSP, kinda of like a white smaller version of rampage but less obnoxious. Anyways, I think he’d be a better champion than GSP so my vote is for him. [/quote]
I really hope the person who posted this reads what i have to say..you better be blind because to say that serra has a size advantage…and taller than gsp is not only INCORRECT..but ridiculous serra is 5′6 gsp is 5′10 serra has T-rex arms and gsp has like a 76″ reach. Did you even watch the 1st fight??? GSP is like the biggest welterweight and serra is fairly undersized..that’s probably why he used to fight at lw… seeing how you were so completely wrong about what you said..your prediction is probably just as shi**y
haha come on 4 inches dosent make Serra a midget. and if it does than GSP got his ass knocked the fuck out by a side show.
Serra is going to submit GSP from his back!! OH BOY!!! GET USED TO IT!!
Breath, breath, breath, your doing fine, your ding fine!
War GSP
24 more days!!
[quote comment="389752"][quote comment="389700"]if stpierre losses i hope people quit putting him in same class as Anderson Silva as 1 of the top PfP fighters in the world. in his first & only title defense he got KOed by Serra.
after beating the hell out of the Crippler Leben & then taking the belt from ACE Fraklin. Anderson has defended hos belt successfully 3 times & also beat lutter who didnt make weight in a non title match. that makes him 6-0 in the UFC , now thats worthy of top PfP IMO.
i kinda like stpierre but he doesnt belong in the same class as Anderson. whooping Hughes was pretty impressive but not being able to finish KOS, was something he should have been able to do in the 3rd when he was on top.[/quote]
I see your point but silva is simply the best striker in mma and for the last 6 fights or so, except lutter everyone tried to stand with him, dumb. All t(ko)’s with in 2 rounds, but a smart, talented wrestler would beat him with good sub defense.[/quote]
sounds like your describing BJ Penn, you call it wrestling, we call it BJJ, you cant sub anyone with wrestling. Hate to tell you but you described BJ Penn, but because you call it wrestling its GSP huh???
I guess I was of the school of the lucky punch…I guess what I should have said is that he was lucky he hurt GSP because I saw him take quite a few shots from a heavier striker in my opinion (B.J. Penn). This fight is going to be a rape. I liked the other poster that mentioned that Serra constantly calls Hughes a loud mouth and acts the exact same way…
He’s got such a big mouth and he should be quiet before he turns this rape into murder.
This post from fightlinker.com pretty much sums it up:
Imagine this! A big ass flying saucer comes from the sky and some badass alien emerges from his ship and demands to fight the worlds best welterweight fighter. If our human representative wins, he will depart and never return. And give us the cure for AIDS and cancer or some shit. But if we lose, he’s going to destroy our planet, but only after sticking pineapple sized probes up our rectums.
Who the fuck do you think Earth is going to send to defend the earth from anal trauma and destruction? Matt fucking Serra??? Get outta here man. Here’s how I see it:
TOP 10 WELTERWEIGHTS TO FIGHT ZORGON THE WET FOR THE FATE OF THE EARTH
1. Georges St Pierre
2. Matt Hughes
3. Jon Fitch
4. Karo Parisyan (and the only reason he’s not #3 is because I don’t trust the intergalactic judges)
5. Jake Shields
6. Matt Serra
7. Carlos Condit
8. Diego Sanchez
9. Josh Koscheck
10. Marcus Davis
86. Luigi Fioravanti
[quote comment="389918"]This post from fightlinker.com pretty much sums it up:
Imagine this! A big ass flying saucer comes from the sky and some badass alien emerges from his ship and demands to fight the worlds best welterweight fighter. If our human representative wins, he will depart and never return. And give us the cure for AIDS and cancer or some shit. But if we lose, he’s going to destroy our planet, but only after sticking pineapple sized probes up our rectums.
Who the fuck do you think Earth is going to send to defend the earth from anal trauma and destruction? Matt fucking Serra??? Get outta here man. Here’s how I see it:
TOP 10 WELTERWEIGHTS TO FIGHT ZORGON THE WET FOR THE FATE OF THE EARTH
1. Georges St Pierre
2. Matt Hughes
3. Jon Fitch
4. Karo Parisyan (and the only reason he’s not #3 is because I don’t trust the intergalactic judges)
5. Jake Shields
6. Matt Serra
7. Carlos Condit
8. Diego Sanchez
9. Josh Koscheck
10. Marcus Davis
86. Luigi Fioravanti[/quote]
Interesting. Quite frankly I feel that Kos is a little underrated. I personally think he’s number two behind GSP.
[quote comment="389918"]This post from fightlinker.com pretty much sums it up:
Imagine this! A big ass flying saucer comes from the sky and some badass alien emerges from his ship and demands to fight the worlds best welterweight fighter. If our human representative wins, he will depart and never return. And give us the cure for AIDS and cancer or some shit. But if we lose, he’s going to destroy our planet, but only after sticking pineapple sized probes up our rectums.
Who the fuck do you think Earth is going to send to defend the earth from anal trauma and destruction? Matt fucking Serra??? Get outta here man. Here’s how I see it:
TOP 10 WELTERWEIGHTS TO FIGHT ZORGON THE WET FOR THE FATE OF THE EARTH
1. Georges St Pierre
2. Matt Hughes
3. Jon Fitch
4. Karo Parisyan (and the only reason he’s not #3 is because I don’t trust the intergalactic judges)
5. Jake Shields
6. Matt Serra
7. Carlos Condit
8. Diego Sanchez
9. Josh Koscheck
10. Marcus Davis
86. Luigi Fioravanti[/quote]
Good…Really funny at the same time.
[quote comment="389871"]Serra is going to submit GSP from his back!! OH BOY!!! GET USED TO IT!![/quote]
lol
[quote comment="389918"]This post from fightlinker.com pretty much sums it up:
Imagine this! A big ass flying saucer comes from the sky and some badass alien emerges from his ship and demands to fight the worlds best welterweight fighter. If our human representative wins, he will depart and never return. And give us the cure for AIDS and cancer or some shit. But if we lose, he’s going to destroy our planet, but only after sticking pineapple sized probes up our rectums.
Who the fuck do you think Earth is going to send to defend the earth from anal trauma and destruction? Matt fucking Serra??? Get outta here man. Here’s how I see it:
TOP 10 WELTERWEIGHTS TO FIGHT ZORGON THE WET FOR THE FATE OF THE EARTH
1. Georges St Pierre
2. Matt Hughes
3. Jon Fitch
4. Karo Parisyan (and the only reason he’s not #3 is because I don’t trust the intergalactic judges)
5. Jake Shields
6. Matt Serra
7. Carlos Condit
8. Diego Sanchez
9. Josh Koscheck
10. Marcus Davis
86. Luigi Fioravanti[/quote]
best post I’ve ever read.
Poor serra better pay up on his life insurance and make sure his health care is up to date because from the sound of things he’s going to need it. If he wins this time it will be the upset of the millenium and serra will be officially an mma god in my book, here that serra, put up a fight at least, I want 3 rounds do it to spike hughes, he only made it 3, focus only on bjj this time to last as long as possible, forget the stand up because its not going to happen in this fight, you’ll never get close to gsp even in your wettest dreams.
Gsp is pissed at what happened to him april 7, look what he did to hughes both times after he lost, Gsp was humiliated by serra much, much more than he was with hughes. He lost his dignity and his dream the title and was completely humiliated. Gsp is a nice guy but not one to f**k with I hear, he can be very nice, but very vicious too if you mess with him. If I was serra I wouldn’t take this fight for any amount of money, I doubt he needs it but if he gets seriously hurt, whats the point? f**k the rocky story, your not rocky, rocky is fiction, hate to break it to you, buddy your in over your head, stop deluding your self.
1. koscheck-humiliated the wrestler but made if to a decision.
2. Hughes- completely humiliated, more likely he’ll need therapy for getting owned so badly, god that was hard to watch.
3. serra – don’t do it dumb a**. You won’t be able to walk for the next 6 months to a year, how’s that going to help you with your school? Or R.I.P, dude I know you love to prove people wrong and you’ve never being destroyed, trust me buddy, your going to be completely destroyed come april 19 if you fight gsp both emotionally and physically, which I genuinely don’t want to see. It would break my heart to see serra lose badly after everything he gained from the win, its too risky IMO. Nobody plans on losing I know, like you thought about penn, carter and karo, sometimes the other fighter has other plans.
[quote comment="389796"]Lucky moves only exist to the fan, no one who’s actually trained believes in luck when trying to commit themselves to a move.[/quote]
I couldnt agree more!
[quote comment="389981"]
TOP 10 WELTERWEIGHTS TO FIGHT ZORGON THE WET FOR THE FATE OF THE EARTH
1. Georges St Pierre
2. Matt Hughes
3. Jon Fitch
4. Karo Parisyan (and the only reason he’s not #3 is because I don’t trust the intergalactic judges)
5. Jake Shields
6. Matt Serra
7. Carlos Condit
8. Diego Sanchez
9. Josh Koscheck
10. Marcus Davis
86. Luigi Fioravanti[/quote]
This dude makes a good point, but here’s a slightly different, slightly better list:
1. Georges St. Pierre
2. Matt Hughes
3. Jake Shields
4. Jon Fitch
5. Karo Parisyan
6. Matt Serra
7. Carlos Condit
8. Diego Sanchez
9. Josh Koscheck
10. Marcus Davis
Now, I want to show my choices for the Middleweight category. I’m going to go ahead and insult all the fighters at middleweight and say that if we had to come up with the best 185 pounders to save the planet, we’d have to borrow from other divisions. I’m only going to move fighters one weight class, I’m not going to include heavyweights or lightweights.
Middleweight choices to fight for the fate of the Earth:
1. Georges St. Pierre (at 185)
)
2. Lyoto Machida (at 185)
3. Quinton Rampage Jackson (he might have a hard time getting to 185, but shit it’s for the fate of the damn planet, I think he could get it together
4. Chuck Liddell
5. Anderson Silva
6. Dan Henderson
7. Wanderlei Silva
8. Frank Shamrock
9. Matt Hughes
10. Yoshihiro Akiyama
I may have left someone out, but you get the idea.
the only way serra is going to win is if he hits gsp in the back of the head again. i predict gsp is going to kick serra in his fat dome and when his hands drop another dome kick.
[quote comment="389848"][quote comment="389514"]I got to agree with the guy and on top of that I’m also a crazy guy that thinks he’ll win again. To be honest, during their first match he was dominating GSP, I think it could also be the size difference that gives him the advantage, Serra is much taller than GSP. On top of all of these he’s also a better speaker than GSP, kinda of like a white smaller version of rampage but less obnoxious. Anyways, I think he’d be a better champion than GSP so my vote is for him.[/quote]
Is 5′6″ taller than 5′10″ in your world? Serra is a midget. Where did you get the idea that he is much taller than GSP.[/quote]
[quote comment="389854"][quote post="5520"]I got to agree with the guy and on top of that I’m also a crazy guy that thinks he’ll win again. To be honest, during their first match he was dominating GSP, I think it could also be the size difference that gives him the advantage, Serra is much taller than GSP. On top of all of these he’s also a better speaker than GSP, kinda of like a white smaller version of rampage but less obnoxious. Anyways, I think he’d be a better champion than GSP so my vote is for him. [/quote]
I really hope the person who posted this reads what i have to say..you better be blind because to say that serra has a size advantage…and taller than gsp is not only INCORRECT..but ridiculous serra is 5′6 gsp is 5′10 serra has T-rex arms and gsp has like a 76″ reach. Did you even watch the 1st fight??? GSP is like the biggest welterweight and serra is fairly undersized..that’s probably why he used to fight at lw… seeing how you were so completely wrong about what you said..your prediction is probably just as shi**y[/quote]
Oh noooooo! I must be crazy, stup*d me my predictions is soooooo shi**y… Please, calm down GSP nuthuggers, I apologize for not going to sherdog.com every time I post something. From my recollections of this fight I just remember Serra looking bigger than GSP, that’s all, hence my thought that he was bigger. Granted I was wrong, so sue me.
[quote comment="389752"][quote comment="389700"]if stpierre losses i hope people quit putting him in same class as Anderson Silva as 1 of the top PfP fighters in the world. in his first & only title defense he got KOed by Serra.
after beating the hell out of the Crippler Leben & then taking the belt from ACE Fraklin. Anderson has defended hos belt successfully 3 times & also beat lutter who didnt make weight in a non title match. that makes him 6-0 in the UFC , now thats worthy of top PfP IMO.
i kinda like stpierre but he doesnt belong in the same class as Anderson. whooping Hughes was pretty impressive but not being able to finish KOS, was something he should have been able to do in the 3rd when he was on top.[/quote]
I see your point but silva is simply the best striker in mma and for the last 6 fights or so, except lutter everyone tried to stand with him, dumb. All t(ko)’s with in 2 rounds, but a smart, talented wrestler would beat him with good sub defense.[/quote]
That statement would be true if he hadn’t fought hendo, but he’s fought hendo since and the “smart wrestler’ statement is not longer valid.
[quote comment="389838"][quote comment="389493"]GSP Nuthuggers really love to take the focus off of the actual fight and emphasize fights from 3 years ago, or what they think will happen. Serra’s right- it’s as if the first fight never happened.[/quote]
Oh, you mean like bringing up the fact to the Serra nuthuggers that Hughes beat GSP ONCE and has been OWNED ever since. These are just examples of what’s to come for you Serra fans who think he will KO GSP again. Do you actually think it is probable that Serra will run through GSP twice in a row.[/quote]
A devil’s advocate question: What if Serra does it again? Will it still be luck? Or will people admit Serra might have GSP’s number?
Hey Harry Tringle, that was absolutely “f”ing hilarious!!!!
All u people claiming Fluke are just haters. There are no flukes! No such a thing. GSP is my favorite welterweight and would beat Serra 90/100 times. Serra was the more prepared fighter on that particular night, if the fight had taken place the day before, who knows who would have won…But on that day, Serra out fought GSP PERIOD! If GSP is classy enough to admit it, and admit that Serra is the real Champ, then maybe we should be giving Serra the same respect!
[quote comment="389918"]This post from fightlinker.com pretty much sums it up:
Imagine this! A big ass flying saucer comes from the sky and some badass alien emerges from his ship and demands to fight the worlds best welterweight fighter. If our human representative wins, he will depart and never return. And give us the cure for AIDS and cancer or some shit. But if we lose, he’s going to destroy our planet, but only after sticking pineapple sized probes up our rectums.
Who the fuck do you think Earth is going to send to defend the earth from anal trauma and destruction? Matt fucking Serra??? Get outta here man. Here’s how I see it:
TOP 10 WELTERWEIGHTS TO FIGHT ZORGON THE WET FOR THE FATE OF THE EARTH
1. Georges St Pierre
2. Matt Hughes
3. Jon Fitch
4. Karo Parisyan (and the only reason he’s not #3 is because I don’t trust the intergalactic judges)
5. Jake Shields
6. Matt Serra
7. Carlos Condit
8. Diego Sanchez
9. Josh Koscheck
10. Marcus Davis
86. Luigi Fioravanti[/quote]
Matt serra is the champ and you are not even going to put him in the top 5?
Keep in mind, Matt Serra has never been dominatyed in the UFC, like he dominated GSP. Serra is a tough guy. Do I think he is better than GSP….NO
But I do think Serra is a lot better than most people on his site give him credit for.
Bye cheeseball. The only thing left of your utterly forgettable career will be a beating from Matt Hughes, if you are willing to man up and back up your talk.
It was a lucky punch which impacted the back of the head. The fight should have been stopped and serra deducted a point. there’s no way that serra can beat GSP legitimately.
There was more than one punch that ended the fight so it wasn’t just one lucky punch. It’s just like GSP said himself…he hit him in the right spot at the right time. That’s the key to KOing someone and he nailed it that night. I agree that GSP did not look like himself that night at all and he was timid which isn’t typical GSP.
I agree that most of the pressure is on GSP to avenge his loss and reclaim his belt and legacy but some of it has to be on Serra…he’s the champ. He has to prove al the doubters wrong or people will continue not to take him seriously.
I can’t wait to see Serra get KOed hardcore this time around though…live no less…woohoo! I think GSP is a man on a mission and Serra is going to see the best GSP we have seen and he is going to overwhelm Serra very quickly.
[quote post="5520"]All u people claiming Fluke are just haters. There are no flukes! No such a thing. GSP is my favorite welterweight and would beat Serra 90/100 times. Serra was the more prepared fighter on that particular night, if the fight had taken place the day before, who knows who would have won…But on that day, Serra out fought GSP PERIOD! If GSP is classy enough to admit it, and admit that Serra is the real Champ, then maybe we should be giving Serra the same respect! [/quote]
I was about to say the same thing. There are no lucky punches and he obviously hit his target square. But again 9 times out of 10 GSP will win this fight. I think hes too well rounded for Serra and will be too much.
[quote post="5520"]Middleweight choices to fight for the fate of the Earth:
1. Georges St. Pierre (at 185)
2. Lyoto Machida (at 185)
3. Quinton Rampage Jackson (he might have a hard time getting to 185, but shit it’s for the fate of the damn planet, I think he could get it together )
4. Chuck Liddell
5. Anderson Silva
6. Dan Henderson
7. Wanderlei Silva
8. Frank Shamrock
9. Matt Hughes
10. Yoshihiro Akiyama
I may have left someone out, but you get the idea.[/quote]
The middleweight champion is not even on your top three but Machida whos yet to win a title is? I disagree.
[quote comment="390192"][quote comment="389752"][quote comment="389700"]if stpierre losses i hope people quit putting him in same class as Anderson Silva as 1 of the top PfP fighters in the world. in his first & only title defense he got KOed by Serra.
after beating the hell out of the Crippler Leben & then taking the belt from ACE Fraklin. Anderson has defended hos belt successfully 3 times & also beat lutter who didnt make weight in a non title match. that makes him 6-0 in the UFC , now thats worthy of top PfP IMO.
i kinda like stpierre but he doesnt belong in the same class as Anderson. whooping Hughes was pretty impressive but not being able to finish KOS, was something he should have been able to do in the 3rd when he was on top.[/quote]
I see your point but silva is simply the best striker in mma and for the last 6 fights or so, except lutter everyone tried to stand with him, dumb. All t(ko)’s with in 2 rounds, but a smart, talented wrestler would beat him with good sub defense.[/quote]
That statement would be true if he hadn’t fought hendo, but he’s fought hendo since and the “smart wrestler’ statement is not longer valid.[/quote]
Did hendo succeed? uh no so he’s a smart wrestler because he chose to stand with a guy who out classed him on his feet, you have a strange definition of smart.
yes weeks away….i cant wait……….GSP is going to win……..serra is going down………
[quote comment="389752"][quote comment="389700"]if stpierre losses i hope people quit putting him in same class as Anderson Silva as 1 of the top PfP fighters in the world. in his first & only title defense he got KOed by Serra.
after beating the hell out of the Crippler Leben & then taking the belt from ACE Fraklin. Anderson has defended hos belt successfully 3 times & also beat lutter who didnt make weight in a non title match. that makes him 6-0 in the UFC , now thats worthy of top PfP IMO.
i kinda like stpierre but he doesnt belong in the same class as Anderson. whooping Hughes was pretty impressive but not being able to finish KOS, was something he should have been able to do in the 3rd when he was on top.[/quote]
I see your point but silva is simply the best striker in mma and for the last 6 fights or so, except lutter everyone tried to stand with him, dumb. All t(ko)’s with in 2 rounds, but a smart, talented wrestler would beat him with good sub defense.[/quote]
wasnt that what Hendo was supposed to do. thats what i used to think too,but it probably is still the style that could possibly beat Anderson. someone i am keeping an eye on is Ed ShortFuse Herman. maybe in 12-18 months with continuing improvement. his biggest problem is he puts himself in dangerous situations and gets subbed, eg. J.Doerksen, J.McDonald. but hes tuff as hell & doesnt quit. ShortFuse is coming off his 1st career KO over j.doerksen,and in that fight he still put himself in bad spots & almost got triangled. so i know hes still got holes in his game but thats why i said he needs more improvement especially sub.def.
you’re living on borrowed time pal.
[quote comment="390320"]Bye cheeseball. The only thing left of your utterly forgettable career will be a beating from Matt Hughes, if you are willing to man up and back up your talk.[/quote]
word.
i got hundred guns hundred clips mutha f*kker im from NEWWW YOORRKKK..
*serra 2nd round submission due to an oma plata
fughhhetttabbootitt
in all the promo vids serra looks like he’s trying to convince himself that GSP is the same guy he fought last time, and that he himself is not a man who ate shit at shonie carter’s hand. but really, GSP is the one who knows which version came to fight, whether he should have said it or not, and serra has a tremendous disadvantage in that he never got the chance to see what GSP had to offer other than the side (or back, depending how you call it) of his sincerely screwed up head to a good right hand.
in GSP’s clips he looks calm and composed and like he knows more than serra. and what he knows is that he will run him down and take him apart. i didn’t mind serra until he starting tossing insults across the border and talking so much shit, but now its time to put him down and feed the scraps to hughes to fuck serra up for his swan song.
GSP by submission in the first round. after using his reach and kicks to put serra on his heels, followed by a bullrush and takedown and immediate pass into dominant position, then some brutal GNP, and finally the rearrangement of the bones and ligaments in serra’s arm or neck.
WAR GSP!
If Serra’s back of the head hit was offset by a quarter of an inch in any direction…there would be no rematch.
It was a like threading a needle on a pogo stick with your eyes closed.
100% FLUKE.
[quote post="5520"]Oh noooooo! I must be crazy, stup*d me my predictions is soooooo shi**y… Please, calm down GSP nuthuggers, I apologize for not going to sherdog.com every time I post something. From my recollections of this fight I just remember Serra looking bigger than GSP, that’s all, hence my thought that he was bigger. Granted I was wrong, so sue me.[/quote]
Lol..i was actually quite calm when i wrote that..and wtf does going to sherdog have to do with anything..what you said was incredibly stupid..anyone with eyes could see that GSP is bigger than pretty much every welterweight..including midget Serra who’s probably one of the smallest guys and why am i a nuthugger because i pointed out the obvious truth??…maybe i shouldn’t have called you a moron, but what you posted was definately moronic
haha i can not wait till everyone who is counting out serra is eating their words
Strong Islandddddddd
haha i can not wait till everyone who is counting out serra is eating their words
Strong Islandddddddd
[quote comment="389918"]This post from fightlinker.com pretty much sums it up:
Imagine this! A big ass flying saucer comes from the sky and some badass alien emerges from his ship and demands to fight the worlds best welterweight fighter. If our human representative wins, he will depart and never return. And give us the cure for AIDS and cancer or some shit. But if we lose, he’s going to destroy our planet, but only after sticking pineapple sized probes up our rectums.
Who the fuck do you think Earth is going to send to defend the earth from anal trauma and destruction? Matt fucking Serra??? Get outta here man. Here’s how I see it:
TOP 10 WELTERWEIGHTS TO FIGHT ZORGON THE WET FOR THE FATE OF THE EARTH
1. Georges St Pierre
2. Matt Hughes
3. Jon Fitch
4. Karo Parisyan (and the only reason he’s not #3 is because I don’t trust the intergalactic judges)
5. Jake Shields
6. Matt Serra
7. Carlos Condit
8. Diego Sanchez
9. Josh Koscheck
10. Marcus Davis
86. Luigi Fioravanti[/quote]
the Irish hand grenade shouldnt be below the nightmare & Hughes doesnt belong at 2 any more. Fitch desrves that spot. IMO luigi deserves to be little higher, maybe 36. after all he did make it to the UFC. you have got to be top 50 in your weight class to make it to 1 of the top 5 orginizations. but its kinda funny ranking him 86.
[quote comment="390418"]Did hendo succeed? uh no so he’s a smart wrestler because he chose to stand with a guy who out classed him on his feet, you have a strange definition of smart.[/quote]
Hendo is a smart fighter, just because he lost doesn’t mean he’s dumb. He is far better than anyone else the UFC has to offer to go against Silva. So everyone that fight’s the spider is dumb when they lose? A fighter is only smart when they win fights? Now that’s a strange definition of smart…
Just because someone is great at wrestling doesn’t mean they’ll try to win every fight they have by ground n’ pound. You say he was outclassed because he was not supposed to stand with Silva, but Hendo wasn’t supposed to stand with wandy either, and look what happened there (although I have to point out that wandy was sick that night). Hendo is a great striker, not as good as the spider, but great. Granted Hendo won the first round by holding Silva down in side control throwing short hammer fists, but he didn’t make any damages. If he was successful in repeating the first round throughout the whole fight (I really doubt he could do that 5x straight BTW) we’d have the most boring fight in UFC history between two great athletes, Hendo would have lost many fans to potentially win a belt through none activity. Again, if that’s what you call smart…
It was not a lucky punch. however, gsp has always been a very classy fighter that has done little to no trash talk. even with trigg and all his verbal diarrhea he said nothing. but when he gets angry and he says he is going to destroy someone it usually happens. he said he would beat hughes for the belt 100% and he did.there is just something about him that changes. i think serra made a mistake by running his mouth
[quote comment="390747"][quote comment="390418"]Did hendo succeed? uh no so he’s a smart wrestler because he chose to stand with a guy who out classed him on his feet, you have a strange definition of smart.[/quote]
Hendo is a smart fighter, just because he lost doesn’t mean he’s dumb. He is far better than anyone else the UFC has to offer to go against Silva. So everyone that fight’s the spider is dumb when they lose? A fighter is only smart when they win fights? Now that’s a strange definition of smart…
Just because someone is great at wrestling doesn’t mean they’ll try to win every fight they have by ground n’ pound. You say he was outclassed because he was not supposed to stand with Silva, but Hendo wasn’t supposed to stand with wandy either, and look what happened there (although I have to point out that wandy was sick that night). Hendo is a great striker, not as good as the spider, but great. Granted Hendo won the first round by holding Silva down in side control throwing short hammer fists, but he didn’t make any damages. If he was successful in repeating the first round throughout the whole fight (I really doubt he could do that 5x straight BTW) we’d have the most boring fight in UFC history between two great athletes, Hendo would have lost many fans to potentially win a belt through none activity. Again, if that’s what you call smart…[/quote]
Dude I’ll make it simple for you, hendo stood to much with anderson silva period. wanderlie is no anderson silva not close, he would get destroyed in a stand up fight with A silva. To beat silva you need more of a gsp/koscheck plan or a lutter /silva plan…he stood too f**king long with him period, a DUMB move with silva he’s not even close to silva as a striker, I don’t know what your point is. He should have taken him down every chance he got, matt hughes would have done better than hendo.
Gina Carano has a better gaurd than Matt Hughes did in the GSPIII fight. Serra’s going to snap off GSP’s arm like a dry twig.
[quote comment="390823"]Gina Carano has a better gaurd than Matt Hughes did in the GSPIII fight. Serra’s going to snap off GSP’s arm like a dry twig.[/quote]
yeah…and I’m winning the lottery tonight!!
[quote comment="390753"]It was not a lucky punch. however, gsp has always been a very classy fighter that has done little to no trash talk. even with trigg and all his verbal diarrhea he said nothing. but when he gets angry and he says he is going to destroy someone it usually happens. he said he would beat hughes for the belt 100% and he did.there is just something about him that changes. i think serra made a mistake by running his mouth[/quote]
Totally agree the element of suprise is gone, now only the element of revenge is there, or element of I’m going to kick your ass Serra.
GSP doesn’t say much but when he says something it usually has some weight to it.
[quote comment="390400"][quote post="5520"]All u people claiming Fluke are just haters. There are no flukes! No such a thing. GSP is my favorite welterweight and would beat Serra 90/100 times. Serra was the more prepared fighter on that particular night, if the fight had taken place the day before, who knows who would have won…But on that day, Serra out fought GSP PERIOD! If GSP is classy enough to admit it, and admit that Serra is the real Champ, then maybe we should be giving Serra the same respect! [/quote]
I was about to say the same thing. There are no lucky punches and he obviously hit his target square. But again 9 times out of 10 GSP will win this fight. I think hes too well rounded for Serra and will be too much.[/quote]
if Serra win this fight will you be saying that gsp will win 8 out of 10 times & if they have a 3rd fight & serra wins again will you say that gsp will win 7 out of 10.
[quote comment="390937"][quote comment="390400"][quote post="5520"]All u people claiming Fluke are just haters. There are no flukes! No such a thing. GSP is my favorite welterweight and would beat Serra 90/100 times. Serra was the more prepared fighter on that particular night, if the fight had taken place the day before, who knows who would have won…But on that day, Serra out fought GSP PERIOD! If GSP is classy enough to admit it, and admit that Serra is the real Champ, then maybe we should be giving Serra the same respect! [/quote]
I was about to say the same thing. There are no lucky punches and he obviously hit his target square. But again 9 times out of 10 GSP will win this fight. I think hes too well rounded for Serra and will be too much.[/quote]
if Serra win this fight will you be saying that gsp will win 8 out of 10 times & if they have a 3rd fight & serra wins again will you say that gsp will win 7 out of 10.[/quote]
How ’bout I make it simpler and just say GSP will win 1 out of 1 in Montreal. Matt Serra WILL LOSE! It wasn’t a lucky punch (really punches) because he very much meant to do it, but it is a lucky punch in the sense that he was almost certainly going to lose if he didn’t rock GSP hard enough with that punch. GSP didn’t expect it last time, this time he will, and Matt Serra therefore has no chance.
[quote comment="390625"][quote post="5520"]Oh noooooo! I must be crazy, stup*d me my predictions is soooooo shi**y… Please, calm down GSP nuthuggers, I apologize for not going to sherdog.com every time I post something. From my recollections of this fight I just remember Serra looking bigger than GSP, that’s all, hence my thought that he was bigger. Granted I was wrong, so sue me.[/quote]
Lol..i was actually quite calm when i wrote that..and wtf does going to sherdog have to do with anything..what you said was incredibly stupid..anyone with eyes could see that GSP is bigger than pretty much every welterweight..including midget Serra who’s probably one of the smallest guys and why am i a nuthugger because i pointed out the obvious truth??…maybe i shouldn’t have called you a moron, but what you posted was definately moronic[/quote]
I’m afraid Linx, I’m with Patty with this one.
I’ve been reading all the posts in this thread and your one is the only one that jumped out at me.
What confuses me is that your posts seem somewhat knowledgeable yet that post totally throws any perceptions out the window.
How can anyone, with basic knowledge of MMA, make the mistake that Serra is bigger than GSP. Especially a UFC event which is much much more publicised and broadcast.
I could understand fighters in a smaller organisation, but the UFC???!!!
I’m baffled and confused.
GSP is going to dominate this upcoming fight and finish it as quickly as he can, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was another Sylvia vs Mir i.e. Broken arm for Serra
[quote comment="390814"]Dude I’ll make it simple for you, hendo stood to much with anderson silva period. wanderlie is no anderson silva not close, he would get destroyed in a stand up fight with A silva. To beat silva you need more of a gsp/koscheck plan or a lutter /silva plan…he stood too f**king long with him period, a DUMB move with silva he’s not even close to silva as a striker, I don’t know what your point is. He should have taken him down every chance he got, matt hughes would have done better than hendo.[/quote]
No, let me make it simple for you, Dan took him down in the first and couldn’t do anything there. He wasn’t going to knock him out with short hammer fists. Simple as that, it’s not so hard to understand is it? You’ll never be happy with any wrestler that faces silva because you’ll find another excuse that “they should have done this, or that, bla bla bla’. Truth of the matter is that they are the ones inside the ring trying to fight and please the fans, not you. Who cares if you think he shouldn’t have stand with him, it’s a good argument if he didn’t try to take him down in the first round, but he did and it didn’t work. Simple as that buddy. Just open your eyes and stop being biased. It doesn’t matter if someone is a greco-roman athlete or not, it’s not a style that will beat the spider, it will be an up and coming athlete that only time will tell who it’ll be, because he’s going to be there for a long time. Just get used to it, peace
“He wasn’t going to knock him out with short hammer fists.”
No, but Hendo was winning while we was on top of him and he was losing when he was standing. He definitely should have kept trying to take it to the ground, and I agree that Matt Hughes would have done better. Anderson Silva is not, and will not ever be, the best pound for pound fighter because he does not have the most important skill in MMA, which is wrestling. You don’t have to be able to take people down, but you have to have some sort of takedown resistance so you don’t get slammed and you have to have the ability to get up or reverse position. Anderson Silva is lacking in those categories. Someone like GSP would MANHANDLE Anderson. He would slam him to the ground, and he would keep him there. Anderson is definitely weaker than GSP, another reason he is not the best pound for pound. I really want to see GSP fight Anderson. Anderson would lose, and not by decision (I promise).
[quote comment="391052"]I’m afraid Linx, I’m with Patty with this one.
I’ve been reading all the posts in this thread and your one is the only one that jumped out at me.
What confuses me is that your posts seem somewhat knowledgeable yet that post totally throws any perceptions out the window.
How can anyone, with basic knowledge of MMA, make the mistake that Serra is bigger than GSP. Especially a UFC event which is much much more publicised and broadcast.
I could understand fighters in a smaller organisation, but the UFC???!!!
I’m baffled and confused.
GSP is going to dominate this upcoming fight and finish it as quickly as he can, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was another Sylvia vs Mir i.e. Broken arm for Serra[/quote]
To be honest I only started watching the UFC once they bought Pride, so I didn’t really follow GSP’s history in the UFC (actually I used to watch the old UFC until around 2001, when I got hooked in Pride). But seriously, it was an honest mistake, I just remember Serra being bigger than GSP. I don’t know why, maybe because he dominated him during the fight and that’s what got recorded into my brain cells I don’t know. Oh well, it was a stup*d remark, I’ve been called on it, it’s cool.
[quote comment="390625"]Lol..i was actually quite calm when i wrote that..and wtf does going to sherdog have to do with anything..what you said was incredibly stup*d..anyone with eyes could see that GSP is bigger than pretty much every welterweight..including midget Serra who’s probably one of the smallest guys and why am i a nuthugger because i pointed out the obvious truth??…maybe i shouldn’t have called you a moron, but what you posted was definately moronic[/quote]
in sherdog they have all the fighter’s fighting records, associations, height and weight class. That’s what I meant by going to sherdog (there are a bunch of ppl that when reading something that is wrong they come back with the famous “research before you post reply” which I find stup*d and is the reason why I said I don’t go to sherdog before posting).
[quote comment="391227"][quote comment="391052"]I’m afraid Linx, I’m with Patty with this one.
I’ve been reading all the posts in this thread and your one is the only one that jumped out at me.
What confuses me is that your posts seem somewhat knowledgeable yet that post totally throws any perceptions out the window.
How can anyone, with basic knowledge of MMA, make the mistake that Serra is bigger than GSP. Especially a UFC event which is much much more publicised and broadcast.
I could understand fighters in a smaller organisation, but the UFC???!!!
I’m baffled and confused.
GSP is going to dominate this upcoming fight and finish it as quickly as he can, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was another Sylvia vs Mir i.e. Broken arm for Serra[/quote]
To be honest I only started watching the UFC once they bought Pride, so I didn’t really follow GSP’s history in the UFC (actually I used to watch the old UFC until around 2001, when I got hooked in Pride). But seriously, it was an honest mistake, I just remember Serra being bigger than GSP. I don’t know why, maybe because he dominated him during the fight and that’s what got recorded into my brain cells I don’t know. Oh well, it was a stup*d remark, I’ve been called on it, it’s cool.[/quote]
All cool linx
Just confused me because you seem to know what you are talking about…….most of the time anyway lol
[quote comment="391077"][quote comment="390814"]Dude I’ll make it simple for you, hendo stood to much with anderson silva period. wanderlie is no anderson silva not close, he would get destroyed in a stand up fight with A silva. To beat silva you need more of a gsp/koscheck plan or a lutter /silva plan…he stood too f**king long with him period, a DUMB move with silva he’s not even close to silva as a striker, I don’t know what your point is. He should have taken him down every chance he got, matt hughes would have done better than hendo.[/quote]
No, let me make it simple for you, Dan took him down in the first and couldn’t do anything there. He wasn’t going to knock him out with short hammer fists. Simple as that, it’s not so hard to understand is it? You’ll never be happy with any wrestler that faces silva because you’ll find another excuse that “they should have done this, or that, bla bla bla’. Truth of the matter is that they are the ones inside the ring trying to fight and please the fans, not you. Who cares if you think he shouldn’t have stand with him, it’s a good argument if he didn’t try to take him down in the first round, but he did and it didn’t work. Simple as that buddy. Just open your eyes and stop being biased. It doesn’t matter if someone is a greco-roman athlete or not, it’s not a style that will beat the spider, it will be an up and coming athlete that only time will tell who it’ll be, because he’s going to be there for a long time. Just get used to it, peace
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Amen! Linx: That was Poetry!
[quote comment="391077"][quote comment="390814"]Dude I’ll make it simple for you, hendo stood to much with anderson silva period. wanderlie is no anderson silva not close, he would get destroyed in a stand up fight with A silva. To beat silva you need more of a gsp/koscheck plan or a lutter /silva plan…he stood too f**king long with him period, a DUMB move with silva he’s not even close to silva as a striker, I don’t know what your point is. He should have taken him down every chance he got, matt hughes would have done better than hendo.[/quote]
No, let me make it simple for you, Dan took him down in the first and couldn’t do anything there. He wasn’t going to knock him out with short hammer fists. Simple as that, it’s not so hard to understand is it? You’ll never be happy with any wrestler that faces silva because you’ll find another excuse that “they should have done this, or that, bla bla bla’. Truth of the matter is that they are the ones inside the ring trying to fight and please the fans, not you. Who cares if you think he shouldn’t have stand with him, it’s a good argument if he didn’t try to take him down in the first round, but he did and it didn’t work. Simple as that buddy. Just open your eyes and stop being biased. It doesn’t matter if someone is a greco-roman athlete or not, it’s not a style that will beat the spider, it will be an up and coming athlete that only time will tell who it’ll be, because he’s going to be there for a long time. Just get used to it, peace
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Ever heard of lay and pray???? LOL
I wonder what people will say in 2009 if serra is stopped by gsp then hughes then karo again, will serra/gsp 1 be a fluke or not just wondering? One t(ko) in 20 fights should make a guy wonder about the fighters t(ko) ability, kind of like diego sanchez’s one ko of riggs, which I was never on that train.
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All cool linx
Just confused me because you seem to know what you are talking about…….most of the time anyway lol[/quote]
Thanks, but no one can be right all the time
[quote comment="390600"]If Serra’s back of the head hit was offset by a quarter of an inch in any direction…there would be no rematch.
It was a like threading a needle on a pogo stick with your eyes closed.
100% FLUKE.[/quote]
A fluke?!?!? A fluke is GSP slipping on a banana peel, knocking himself out and Serra being awarded the match. A fluke is not a straight up ass wooping knockout by your opponent who lands a cross with power and precision.
[quote comment="391283"][quote comment="391077"][quote comment="390814"]Dude I’ll make it simple for you, hendo stood to much with anderson silva period. wanderlie is no anderson silva not close, he would get destroyed in a stand up fight with A silva. To beat silva you need more of a gsp/koscheck plan or a lutter /silva plan…he stood too f**king long with him period, a DUMB move with silva he’s not even close to silva as a striker, I don’t know what your point is. He should have taken him down every chance he got, matt hughes would have done better than hendo.[/quote]
No, let me make it simple for you, Dan took him down in the first and couldn’t do anything there. He wasn’t going to knock him out with short hammer fists. Simple as that, it’s not so hard to understand is it? You’ll never be happy with any wrestler that faces silva because you’ll find another excuse that “they should have done this, or that, bla bla bla’. Truth of the matter is that they are the ones inside the ring trying to fight and please the fans, not you. Who cares if you think he shouldn’t have stand with him, it’s a good argument if he didn’t try to take him down in the first round, but he did and it didn’t work. Simple as that buddy. Just open your eyes and stop being biased. It doesn’t matter if someone is a greco-roman athlete or not, it’s not a style that will beat the spider, it will be an up and coming athlete that only time will tell who it’ll be, because he’s going to be there for a long time. Just get used to it, peace
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Amen! Linx: That was Poetry![/quote]
Your on crack if you think thats poetry! LOL.
“I got to agree with the guy and on top of that I’m also a crazy guy that thinks he’ll win again. To be honest, during their first match he was dominating GSP, I think it could also be the size difference that gives him the advantage, Serra is much taller than GSP. On top of all of these he’s also a better speaker than GSP, kinda of like a white smaller version of rampage but less obnoxious. Anyways, I think he’d be a better champion than GSP so my vote is for him.”
Linx could you please tell me a what point he was “dominating gsp” because I never saw it. The only time he dominated him was when gsp was hurt 3 minutes into the fight, which any fighter could have done in the shape gsp was in. Serra hurt gsp which I give him credit for, the punch of a career, but ANY welter weight would have creamed gsp if he couldn’t tell up from down….please. Yes serra is thicker than gsp but gsp is taller..duh. Your going to be disappointed come april 19 when your squeaky rocky champ gets T(ko)ed in the first which is going to happen.
[quote comment="390823"]Gina Carano has a better gaurd than Matt Hughes did in the GSPIII fight. Serra’s going to snap off GSP’s arm like a dry twig.[/quote]
The only sub Serra is going to get is at subway. He hasn’t subbed anybody in the UFC (unless you count that first CAN he fought). Serra’s BJJ looks good on PAPER, in a real fight it SUCKS.
Serra’s punch wasn’t a “fluke”. According to nearly all the posters here, Serra threw a punch and it landed, therefore it wasn’t a fluke. Thus, Serra intended to hit GSP in the back of the head and he’s simply a dirty fighter.
You people seem to confuse the fact that the location of where the punch landed and the effect that it had are the things being called “lucky” not the fact that Serra was able to throw a punch.
Your arguments about intent are far from compelling. If I’m playing baseball and wildly swing the bat with my eyes closed and make contact, driving in the winning run, it’s a fluke. I am unlikely to replicate that swing again.
Therefore fluke. I meant to hit the ball, but the location in which I hit it was lucky, the fact that I made contact in that specific location was lucky, and the fact that I won as a result of that swing is also lucky.
Because if it’s not a fluke, I can do it again with consistency.
So Serra (never having KO’d a soul) lands a punch to the back of the head, is allowed to continue despite landing a punch to the back of the head wins. Wasn’t he kind of lucky he hit the back of the head to wobble the other fighter?
He showed poise and tenacity in finishing off GSP.
But the fact remains, he set it up with a punch that was either illegal, or lucky.
If you say it wasn’t lucky, it was illegal and Serra deliberately aimed for the back of the head and is just a loudmouth prick from Long Island.
If it was lucky, let’s see what Serra can do this time.
st. pierre is gonna get knocked out again. This is the first time I’ve watch the fight and can’t believe that people really I mean actually think that, his win was a fluke. How stupid can human beings be. Even a four year old after watching the fight will know serra is stronger, more aware of his presence and had better and great awareness than pierre. Pierre possess all the physical attributes but not necessary a better fighter. Matt is going to hold on to that title for a long long time. He’s technically sound than any other fighter I’ve seen and really reminds me of Mac Denzig
Yeah … not so much guys. I wouldn’t say it was purely a fluke, but luck was definitely involved. GSP is a better all- around and he has the experience and wins to back it up. Plus he has the drive to take back his belt.
Sorry Serra. I have been 99% accurate in predicting fights. So far my money is still on George.
it looked to me like serra’s style with the movement and angles he gave had st pierre somewhat confused. the fight was fought in the middle of the ring which benefits the taller man and serra was still able to fire some rights to the head and body without a terrible amount of difficulty which is inexcusable for st pierre given his size and abilities as a fighter. he just had an awful night that time and serra made the most of it. i think st pierre is considerably better than serra and will win the rematch, but too many people are making excuses for georges instead of admitting he just didn’t get the job done that time against a man that many gave practially no chance of winning…myself included.
GSP is going to do what he did to Kos and Hughes, beat them with his superior wrestling and ground game. Gsp has proved more than once that he is the best grappler in MMA. He will set him up with kicks and use his reach. Not rocket science just simple strategy.
GSP is the biggest fucken cry baby ever! He always has to lose a fight in order to fight good , then make up bull shit stories on how he was’nt ready ! Then he just said he hopes SERRA is in the best shape for this fight because he only wants a 100% well SERRA in the ring, (WAKE UP & SMELL THE COFFEE DUMB ASS) he was a 100% the last time they met!!You think the outcome gonna be different???? What a maroon. “One more thing”,learn to talk so people Know what the fuck your saying, you talk like a fucken robot!!!
GSP is a cry baby, in order to fight good he has to lose first,makes up excusses for every lost,can’t talk without sounding like a robot,he’s gonna get puonded by Serra 4 sure.
Didn’t mean to repeat my self it took a while to post my first comment so I posted a shorter one on accident.