Comments on: WEC 33 predictions and preview for Marshall vs. Stann http://mmamania.com/2008/03/25/wec-33-predictions-and-preview-for-marshall-vs-stann/ UFC news, event schedules, fight analysis, Octagon predictions, UFC fighters and MMA thoughts Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:08:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: chefdaddy http://mmamania.com/2008/03/25/wec-33-predictions-and-preview-for-marshall-vs-stann/#comment-389008 chefdaddy Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:09:38 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/25/wec-33-predictions-and-preview-for-marshall-vs-stann/#comment-389008 [quote comment="387516"]Who seriously owns a nickname like the "Pink Pounder"?[/quote] Too many possible jokes. Don't even know where to start! [quote comment=”387516″]Who seriously owns a nickname like the “Pink Pounder”?[/quote]
Too many possible jokes. Don’t even know where to start!

]]> By: ViolentMike http://mmamania.com/2008/03/25/wec-33-predictions-and-preview-for-marshall-vs-stann/#comment-388696 ViolentMike Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:21:18 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/25/wec-33-predictions-and-preview-for-marshall-vs-stann/#comment-388696 Hicks and Crunkiton look good at those odds. I hope that BetUs gets them up there!!! Hicks and Crunkiton look good at those odds. I hope that BetUs gets them up there!!!

]]> By: MF Doomer http://mmamania.com/2008/03/25/wec-33-predictions-and-preview-for-marshall-vs-stann/#comment-388024 MF Doomer Wed, 26 Mar 2008 02:04:54 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/25/wec-33-predictions-and-preview-for-marshall-vs-stann/#comment-388024 [quote comment="387743"]I see Stann as the favorite, but not much of one because I really don't see him fighting a smart fight. I thought it was crazy when I read on some site the opinion that Marshall has more power than Stann; Stann HAS to have the edge when this thing is standing, and not in the clinch. Marshall could obviously catch him with something even out of the clinch, but Stann is more likely to do so, and that's pretty much the best position Stann will find himself in during the fight. All of Stann's fights have ended early, and he's going to try to do the same in this fight. The fact that Stann is arrogant, his friends are all probably half way up his butt, AND he's the favorite going into a championship bout, must have Stann's head ready to explode. I'm not putting any money on Stann because I think he's one mistake away from looking like a total fool and there's little chance of him fighting an intelligent fight.[/quote] Some of the worst commentary I've read to date. Brian Stann is the FURTHEST thing from arrogant. In fact, that comment is about as accurate as claiming Doug Marshall would make a good model for Aim Toothpaste. I don't really care who wins, either way. Marshall throws looping punches that have a lot of speed. They are surprisingly strong. He generates momentum. Stann throws textbook straight. Marshall's punches are similar to Chuck's. With that said, either guy can knock out the other guy. Regardless, your commentary sucks. I have the WEC odds in my hands Marshall -150 Stann 120 Sonnen -110 Baker -120 Ratcliff -115 Hicks -115 Cantwell -300 McKenzie 220 Miura 140 Avena -170 (locals must be betting) Alessio 220 Larson -300 Gomez 115 Crunk -145 Stonit...-130 Serd... EV Manuel EV Osawa -130 Clark -400 Harper 300 [quote comment=”387743″]I see Stann as the favorite, but not much of one because I really don’t see him fighting a smart fight. I thought it was crazy when I read on some site the opinion that Marshall has more power than Stann; Stann HAS to have the edge when this thing is standing, and not in the clinch. Marshall could obviously catch him with something even out of the clinch, but Stann is more likely to do so, and that’s pretty much the best position Stann will find himself in during the fight. All of Stann’s fights have ended early, and he’s going to try to do the same in this fight. The fact that Stann is arrogant, his friends are all probably half way up his butt, AND he’s the favorite going into a championship bout, must have Stann’s head ready to explode. I’m not putting any money on Stann because I think he’s one mistake away from looking like a total fool and there’s little chance of him fighting an intelligent fight.[/quote]

Some of the worst commentary I’ve read to date.

Brian Stann is the FURTHEST thing from arrogant. In fact, that comment is about as accurate as claiming Doug Marshall would make a good model for Aim Toothpaste.

I don’t really care who wins, either way. Marshall throws looping punches that have a lot of speed. They are surprisingly strong. He generates momentum. Stann throws textbook straight. Marshall’s punches are similar to Chuck’s. With that said, either guy can knock out the other guy.

Regardless, your commentary sucks.

I have the WEC odds in my hands

Marshall -150
Stann 120

Sonnen -110
Baker -120

Ratcliff -115
Hicks -115

Cantwell -300
McKenzie 220

Miura 140
Avena -170 (locals must be betting)

Alessio 220
Larson -300

Gomez 115
Crunk -145

Stonit…-130
Serd… EV

Manuel EV
Osawa -130

Clark -400
Harper 300

]]> By: MF Doomer http://mmamania.com/2008/03/25/wec-33-predictions-and-preview-for-marshall-vs-stann/#comment-388017 MF Doomer Wed, 26 Mar 2008 01:59:22 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/25/wec-33-predictions-and-preview-for-marshall-vs-stann/#comment-388017 [quote comment="387498"]Is Todd Harris the dude that normally calls it with Mir? If he is, that guy sucks. They should try to get Mauro Renallo. He doesnt provide entertaining commentary like Rogan or Bas, but the dude knows his shit.[/quote] Umm, they both suck, period. They should get a real commentator, like Gus Johnson! Ever heard that guy call a boxing match? In fact, I'd listen to that guy call a knit-off! But yes, Todd Harris sucks, but Renallo sucks as well. Anyway, I'm here in Vegas, and I think these predictions are pretty on target, although I'm very torn over Marshall and Stann. I've been watching both of them train the last two days, and it's really tough to say. I am impressed with Marshall's JJ; he's a lot more fluid than I thought he'd be. Both fighters have bad head movement, and as the fight wears on I think it'll get worse, but at the beginning of a fight Stann's is worse. Stann has been training with Sokudjou and Lindland, which won't hurt. I have to figure Stann wins because he's bigger, stronger, and a better athlete. I think he takes life more seriously, and I do believe that matters. Hicks and Ratcliff could go either way, but Hicks just looks pissed off, ALWAYS. His head his HUGE for his body. Guys with big heads are hard to hurt, i.e, Rampage and Anderson. Miura over Blas. Not sure where Blas is beating this guy, unless he just flat out knocks him out. Cantwell is weird. Crunkilton wins. Alessio always manages to win, but this time I think he manages to lose. The rest I cannot comment on. Wait, I can: Sonnen should win, but Baker DEFINITELY has a puncher's chance. [quote comment=”387498″]Is Todd Harris the dude that normally calls it with Mir? If he is, that guy sucks. They should try to get Mauro Renallo. He doesnt provide entertaining commentary like Rogan or Bas, but the dude knows his shit.[/quote]

Umm, they both suck, period.

They should get a real commentator, like Gus Johnson! Ever heard that guy call a boxing match? In fact, I’d listen to that guy call a knit-off!

But yes, Todd Harris sucks, but Renallo sucks as well.

Anyway, I’m here in Vegas, and I think these predictions are pretty on target, although I’m very torn over Marshall and Stann. I’ve been watching both of them train the last two days, and it’s really tough to say.

I am impressed with Marshall’s JJ; he’s a lot more fluid than I thought he’d be. Both fighters have bad head movement, and as the fight wears on I think it’ll get worse, but at the beginning of a fight Stann’s is worse. Stann has been training with Sokudjou and Lindland, which won’t hurt.

I have to figure Stann wins because he’s bigger, stronger, and a better athlete. I think he takes life more seriously, and I do believe that matters.

Hicks and Ratcliff could go either way, but Hicks just looks pissed off, ALWAYS. His head his HUGE for his body. Guys with big heads are hard to hurt, i.e, Rampage and Anderson.

Miura over Blas. Not sure where Blas is beating this guy, unless he just flat out knocks him out.

Cantwell is weird.

Crunkilton wins.

Alessio always manages to win, but this time I think he manages to lose.

The rest I cannot comment on.

Wait, I can: Sonnen should win, but Baker DEFINITELY has a puncher’s chance.

]]> By: 5 Finger Death Punch http://mmamania.com/2008/03/25/wec-33-predictions-and-preview-for-marshall-vs-stann/#comment-387962 5 Finger Death Punch Wed, 26 Mar 2008 01:25:21 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/25/wec-33-predictions-and-preview-for-marshall-vs-stann/#comment-387962 [quote comment="387465"]THIS IS GOING TO BE A GOOD CARD TOO BAD THE CRY BABY PAULO ISNT FIGHTING. I GUESS HE DIDNT GET THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF STEROIDS IN HIS SYSTEM BEFORE THE FIGHT.[/quote] The guy admits to having a substance abuse problem and wants to do something about it and you berate him for it? Karma is a bitch. [quote comment=”387465″]THIS IS GOING TO BE A GOOD CARD TOO BAD THE CRY BABY PAULO ISNT FIGHTING. I GUESS HE DIDNT GET THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF STEROIDS IN HIS SYSTEM BEFORE THE FIGHT.[/quote]

The guy admits to having a substance abuse problem and wants to do something about it and you berate him for it? Karma is a bitch.

]]> By: skatanicus http://mmamania.com/2008/03/25/wec-33-predictions-and-preview-for-marshall-vs-stann/#comment-387743 skatanicus Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:13:55 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/25/wec-33-predictions-and-preview-for-marshall-vs-stann/#comment-387743 I see Stann as the favorite, but not much of one because I really don't see him fighting a smart fight. I thought it was crazy when I read on some site the opinion that Marshall has more power than Stann; Stann HAS to have the edge when this thing is standing, and not in the clinch. Marshall could obviously catch him with something even out of the clinch, but Stann is more likely to do so, and that's pretty much the best position Stann will find himself in during the fight. All of Stann's fights have ended early, and he's going to try to do the same in this fight. The fact that Stann is arrogant, his friends are all probably half way up his butt, AND he's the favorite going into a championship bout, must have Stann's head ready to explode. I'm not putting any money on Stann because I think he's one mistake away from looking like a total fool and there's little chance of him fighting an intelligent fight. I see Stann as the favorite, but not much of one because I really don’t see him fighting a smart fight. I thought it was crazy when I read on some site the opinion that Marshall has more power than Stann; Stann HAS to have the edge when this thing is standing, and not in the clinch. Marshall could obviously catch him with something even out of the clinch, but Stann is more likely to do so, and that’s pretty much the best position Stann will find himself in during the fight. All of Stann’s fights have ended early, and he’s going to try to do the same in this fight. The fact that Stann is arrogant, his friends are all probably half way up his butt, AND he’s the favorite going into a championship bout, must have Stann’s head ready to explode. I’m not putting any money on Stann because I think he’s one mistake away from looking like a total fool and there’s little chance of him fighting an intelligent fight.

]]> By: skatanicus http://mmamania.com/2008/03/25/wec-33-predictions-and-preview-for-marshall-vs-stann/#comment-387730 skatanicus Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:53:26 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/25/wec-33-predictions-and-preview-for-marshall-vs-stann/#comment-387730 I'm betting money on Marcus Hicks. Ed Ratcliff is pretty sick, but Hicks seems to have a huge advantage in grappling. Hicks is also pretty good standing up, so I'd like to see a little banging (it won't look like a little) and then see this go to the ground where Hicks can more easily finish the fight. I saw MMAweekly has Ed Ratcliff up as their pick, and they also picked John Alessio. I'm picking Hicks and Larson to win their fights, but I'm very much looking forward to both being exciting matches. The whole card looks pretty damn good to me, save maybe the Crunkilton fight. The WEC matchmaker (Scott Adams) is better at his job than UFC matchmaker Joe Silva. I’m betting money on Marcus Hicks. Ed Ratcliff is pretty sick, but Hicks seems to have a huge advantage in grappling. Hicks is also pretty good standing up, so I’d like to see a little banging (it won’t look like a little) and then see this go to the ground where Hicks can more easily finish the fight. I saw MMAweekly has Ed Ratcliff up as their pick, and they also picked John Alessio. I’m picking Hicks and Larson to win their fights, but I’m very much looking forward to both being exciting matches. The whole card looks pretty damn good to me, save maybe the Crunkilton fight. The WEC matchmaker (Scott Adams) is better at his job than UFC matchmaker Joe Silva.

]]> By: skatanicus http://mmamania.com/2008/03/25/wec-33-predictions-and-preview-for-marshall-vs-stann/#comment-387724 skatanicus Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:43:01 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/25/wec-33-predictions-and-preview-for-marshall-vs-stann/#comment-387724 "Look for Miura, who has faced significantly harder competition... to prevail" 0-1 0-3 7-9 0-1 5-4-2 1-3 7-7-3 Those are the records of the opponents Miura is credited with beating on Sherdog, leading up to his latest victory over Fernando Gonzalez, who has by far the best record of anyone Miura has beaten, at 12-5 (12-3 before fighting Miura). Avena, however, has beaten two guys with records of 6-1 (5-0 before) and 9-7 (9-6 before), and lost to Logan Clark (7-1) I agree that Miura has faced tougher competition, but what does that mean, if he loses to all the good fighters he fights, and beats all the mediocre ones? I think people are underestimating Blas here, but I know Miura's good. Also, if you watch the Miller-Miura fight again, you'll notice that although Miura did quite well in the fight overall, he made a lot of mistakes, gave up his back fairly readily and was unable to beat Jason Miller when Miller seemed to be taking the fight very lightly. I like Miura, I just don't like the assumption that he is going to win, based off his good performance in his losses. Miura hasn't beaten anyone as good as Blas yet. “Look for Miura, who has faced significantly harder competition… to prevail”

0-1
0-3
7-9
0-1
5-4-2
1-3
7-7-3

Those are the records of the opponents Miura is credited with beating on Sherdog, leading up to his latest victory over Fernando Gonzalez, who has by far the best record of anyone Miura has beaten, at 12-5 (12-3 before fighting Miura).

Avena, however, has beaten two guys with records of 6-1 (5-0 before) and 9-7 (9-6 before), and lost to Logan Clark (7-1)

I agree that Miura has faced tougher competition, but what does that mean, if he loses to all the good fighters he fights, and beats all the mediocre ones? I think people are underestimating Blas here, but I know Miura’s good. Also, if you watch the Miller-Miura fight again, you’ll notice that although Miura did quite well in the fight overall, he made a lot of mistakes, gave up his back fairly readily and was unable to beat Jason Miller when Miller seemed to be taking the fight very lightly. I like Miura, I just don’t like the assumption that he is going to win, based off his good performance in his losses. Miura hasn’t beaten anyone as good as Blas yet.

]]> By: PW http://mmamania.com/2008/03/25/wec-33-predictions-and-preview-for-marshall-vs-stann/#comment-387631 PW Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:26:55 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/25/wec-33-predictions-and-preview-for-marshall-vs-stann/#comment-387631 [quote comment="387602"]MMA Mania - Carlos Condit fights at welterweight, not middleweight.[/quote] My fault. I typed it by mistake when I wrote it and missed it when I reread it. [quote comment=”387602″]MMA Mania - Carlos Condit fights at welterweight, not middleweight.[/quote]
My fault. I typed it by mistake when I wrote it and missed it when I reread it.

]]> By: MMACrossfire http://mmamania.com/2008/03/25/wec-33-predictions-and-preview-for-marshall-vs-stann/#comment-387617 MMACrossfire Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:09:09 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/25/wec-33-predictions-and-preview-for-marshall-vs-stann/#comment-387617 MMA Mania - With number of articles on the site, I'm surprise there aren't more typos. That's a lotta stuff to review and edit. MMA Mania - With number of articles on the site, I’m surprise there aren’t more typos. That’s a lotta stuff to review and edit.

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