[quote comment=”381404″]If Travis Lutter was champ - no one would care - unmarketable!!!! Like Big Timmaa[/quote]
If he dominated everyone as champ I think he would be marketable. I mean look at anderson silva he doesn’t even speek english and some how people don’t question his marketability.
[quote comment=”381389″]if lutter is in shape and makes weight i’d give him achance as well. i still favor franklin in this fight though. i wana see franklin vs hendo.[/quote]
Lutter is formidable, but I think Rich is just the tougher man, and should be able to beat Lutter up, while staying out of a submission. Franklin rd 3 TKO!
At least we know one thing, if Lutter does win, it will be in round one, or round two, or round three. Haha. Lutter’s cool but I’m pullin for Rich in this one.
Say what you want against this guy but he came closer to anyone else in recent years to beating silva, I’ve never seem silva look so bad in a long time. He might be the guy to do it, the only one who seems to realize you can’t stand and bang with silva or else its over for you.
I like Lutter but, Franklin’s my boy hope he comes back strong for the sake of both fighters it swould be nice to see a war both on the feet and the ground but, hope Franklin gets the knock out.
Does it really matter who wins this fight? These guys are all battling for second place in this division. Anderson Silva has beaten everyone, except Yushin yet. Once he does beat Yushin, this division is done.
Franklin - 2 loses lasting barely 3 rounds, 1 broken nose
Lutter - 1 lose, Silva wins on his back
Marquardt- 1 lose, was he ever in the fight?
Leben - 1 lose, the beginning
Hendo - 1 lose, was he ever in the fight?
Okami - ?
6 fights in the UFC, 6 dominating wins not even lasting 20 minutes. This wieght class has found its king of the hill.
[quote comment=”381530″]Say what you want against this guy but he came closer to anyone else in recent years to beating silva, I’ve never seem silva look so bad in a long time. He might be the guy to do it, the only one who seems to realize you can’t stand and bang with silva or else its over for you.[/quote]
actually ryon chonan got closer cuz he did beat him in recent years! i think lutter will come out for an early take down from the outside and franklin will sutff his take downs..to take out a striker you have to set up the take down by standing in front of him…lutter know he made dumb mistake when he shot out from the outside and silva grazed him with that flying knee! franklin has more top 10 experience i pull for franklin 3rd tko.
i had forgotten, but this video reminded me on how lutter could have very well won the fight if they would have stopped it as fast as they stop the fights nowadays! He was 2-3 seconds short, silva was not defending any of those hits!
[quote comment=”381416″][quote comment=”381404″]If Travis Lutter was champ - no one would care - unmarketable!!!! Like Big Timmaa[/quote]
If he dominated everyone as champ I think he would be marketable. I mean look at anderson silva he doesn’t even speek english and some how people don’t question his marketability.[/quote]
how can you even compare lutter to silva? man what have you been smoking? i want some. lutter is a boring fighter and does not stand a chance. everyone was talking about his submissoin skills and looked want happened he got submitted by silva. yea i don’t agree with one guy who said he doesn’t talk bs. a fighter has to say he can win the fight otherwise he would never get payed to fight. so he does talk alittle bs. and everyone else talks alot of bs. joe rogan talks the most he acts like he knows it all but he sound like an idoit on ppv’s. i rather listen to randy talk but the ufc wrecked that for us. and that mike guy just reads a paper that tells him what to say or he listens to joe. they piss me off so much during the ppv’s i wish you could have the choice of have them talk or not. cause i would choice to not have them talk. but thats just me. i have my own brain thank you very much. i don’t need 2 retards to tell me what is happening. i got eyes i can see for myself. and they’re wrong most of the time cause they only see what they can see from where they’re sitting. but i got camera angles. so please please joe and mike quit your job and let someone who knows the sport have it.
I think Ricardo Almeida is going to be the one to rise up and take that belt from Silva! Excellent take downs, great submission game, we havent seen anyone really go for a submission on silva and you can pretty much assume that if he has a weakness, its sub defense.
i had forgotten, but this video reminded me on how lutter could have very well won the fight if they would have stopped it as fast as they stop the fights nowadays! He was 2-3 seconds short, silva was not defending any of those hits!
did you not see what he did 1 second after and got out of it as if it was nothing.. those shots didn’t even effect him. and everyone is forgetting ONE very important thing…. Anderson silva needed Knee surgery!! he didnt’ take the surgery and took the fight and got the surgery after…. goes to show you that anderson wasn’t 100% like his other fights. so ya guess the only way you can come close to looking like you’ll win is by having anderson not at 100%
This is a dumb match up. Lutter would be better suited in a matc h against Ricardo Almeida or even Thales Leites. Those would be very exciting matches. Lutter and the ground vs, either almeida or leites, will make for a highly technical and exciting grappling match.
[quote comment=”381909″]i had forgotten, but this video reminded me on how lutter could have very well won the fight if they would have stopped it as fast as they stop the fights nowadays! He was 2-3 seconds short, silva was not defending any of those hits!
did you not see what he did 1 second after and got out of it as if it was nothing.. those shots didn’t even effect him. and everyone is forgetting ONE very important thing…. Anderson silva needed Knee surgery!! he didnt’ take the surgery and took the fight and got the surgery after…. goes to show you that anderson wasn’t 100% like his other fights. so ya guess the only way you can come close to looking like you’ll win is by having anderson not at 100%[/quote]
I dont see how people can even say that fight was close. woth or with out a injured leg, I saw the fight as a complete domination by Silva. Those shots did nothing. Lets not forget Silva has one of the best jaws in mma considering the fact that he has never been ko, let alone stunned before.
[quote comment=”381894″]I think Ricardo Almeida is going to be the one to rise up and take that belt from Silva! Excellent take downs, great submission game, we havent seen anyone really go for a submission on silva and you can pretty much assume that if he has a weakness, its sub defense.[/quote]
Well he’s certainly a dark horse. He’s only just back so let’s see how he gets on against some tougher guys. I’m looking forward to seeing him again.
[quote comment=”381568″]Does it really matter who wins this fight? These guys are all battling for second place in this division. Anderson Silva has beaten everyone, except Yushin yet. Once he does beat Yushin, this division is done.
Franklin - 2 loses lasting barely 3 rounds, 1 broken nose
Lutter
- 1 lose, Silva wins on his back
Marquardt- 1 lose, was he ever in the fight?
Leben
- 1 lose, the beginning
Hendo
- 1 lose, was he ever in the fight?
Okami
- ?
6 fights in the UFC, 6 dominating wins not even lasting 20 minutes. This wieght class has found its king of the hill.[/quote]
I understand your thought process but it IMO is wrong because………Silva is going to leave the division. These fighters realize that and they are fighting for slots #2 and #3 that will turn into #1 and #2 once Silva bolts for GSP or ‘Page depending on where you think he will go next; up or down in weight as I have read both directions.
If he would get beat and decide to come back to the MW division, then whoever is champ better grab the wife and the dog and head for the hills!
[quote comment=”381909″]i had forgotten, but this video reminded me on how lutter could have very well won the fight if they would have stopped it as fast as they stop the fights nowadays! He was 2-3 seconds short, silva was not defending any of those hits!
did you not see what he did 1 second after and got out of it as if it was nothing.. those shots didn’t even effect him. and everyone is forgetting ONE very important thing…. Anderson silva needed Knee surgery!! he didnt’ take the surgery and took the fight and got the surgery after…. goes to show you that anderson wasn’t 100% like his other fights. so ya guess the only way you can come close to looking like you’ll win is by having anderson not at 100%[/quote]
i agree with him. anderson silva would walk all over him if lutter gets another chance.
I met rich at the gym once. At first i wasn’t even sure if it was him but then i saw the tapout shorts he was wearing. He seems nice and i hope he wins
[quote comment=”381404″]If Travis Lutter was champ - no one would care - unmarketable!!!! Like Big Timmaa[/quote]
How can you even compare Tim Silvia to Lutter. Silvia doesnt even deserve to be in the same sentence as Lutter and I belive Lutter would be a very good and marketable champ, he has class.Alsou have to admit he’s got skills and if he wouldnt have been so gassed from cutting weight he would have finished Silva when he had him mounted. Im am a big Franklin fan but think it will be a tough fight for him and could go either way.
If Rich Franklin loses this fight, his game will become questionable, even though Travis Lutter is a good fighter, it’s just that Rich has a lot riding here since getting straight up mauled by Silva not once but twice.
[quote comment=”382199″][quote comment=”381568″]Does it really matter who wins this fight? These guys are all battling for second place in this division. Anderson Silva has beaten everyone, except Yushin yet. Once he does beat Yushin, this division is done.
Franklin - 2 loses lasting barely 3 rounds, 1 broken nose
Lutter
- 1 lose, Silva wins on his back
Marquardt- 1 lose, was he ever in the fight?
Leben
- 1 lose, the beginning
Hendo
- 1 lose, was he ever in the fight?
Okami
- ?
6 fights in the UFC, 6 dominating wins not even lasting 20 minutes. This wieght class has found its king of the hill.[/quote]
I understand your thought process but it IMO is wrong because………Silva is going to leave the division. These fighters realize that and they are fighting for slots #2 and #3 that will turn into #1 and #2 once Silva bolts for GSP or ‘Page depending on where you think he will go next; up or down in weight as I have read both directions.
If he would get beat and decide to come back to the MW division, then whoever is champ better grab the wife and the dog and head for the hills![/quote]
Duedes get in in your thick skulls that silva, will never omve down to 170 lbs. He said it a million times already. If he were to switch weight classes it would be to light heavyweight.
So y dont you all stop wating your time by talking about GSP vs. Silva because it wont happen, ubless GSP moves up to 185 lb, which won happen anytime soon because GSP isnt even champion right now, and he has NEVER successfully defend te title. GSP vs. Silva wont happe at least not for another 3 years. however, GSP vs. Liddell at 205 is a possability, as is Anderson vs. wanderlei at 185. lbs.
All those other theories ar pimpe dreams. These are the only 2 match ups involving Silav and fighters in other weight class.
1 more possability to Silva vs. Matt hughes at 185 lb, but I doubt that as well.
I promise you all that GSP wont be fighting Silva any time with in the next 3 years. GSP vs. Penn 2, will be a real possability,but sorry to say Silva vs. GSP is a pipe dream! so we might as well stop talking about it!
[quote comment=”383255″][quote comment=”382199″][quote comment=”381568″]Does it really matter who wins this fight? These guys are all battling for second place in this division. Anderson Silva has beaten everyone, except Yushin yet. Once he does beat Yushin, this division is done.
Franklin - 2 loses lasting barely 3 rounds, 1 broken nose
Lutter
- 1 lose, Silva wins on his back
Marquardt- 1 lose, was he ever in the fight?
Leben
- 1 lose, the beginning
Hendo
- 1 lose, was he ever in the fight?
Okami
- ?
6 fights in the UFC, 6 dominating wins not even lasting 20 minutes. This wieght class has found its king of the hill.[/quote]
I understand your thought process but it IMO is wrong because………Silva is going to leave the division. These fighters realize that and they are fighting for slots #2 and #3 that will turn into #1 and #2 once Silva bolts for GSP or ‘Page depending on where you think he will go next; up or down in weight as I have read both directions.
If he would get beat and decide to come back to the MW division, then whoever is champ better grab the wife and the dog and head for the hills![/quote]
Duedes get in in your thick skulls that silva, will never omve down to 170 lbs. He said it a million times already. If he were to switch weight classes it would be to light heavyweight.
So y dont you all stop wating your time by talking about GSP vs. Silva because it wont happen, ubless GSP moves up to 185 lb, which won happen anytime soon because GSP isnt even champion right now, and he has NEVER successfully defend te title.
GSP vs. Silva wont happe at least not for another 3 years. however, GSP vs. Liddell at 205 is a possability, as is Anderson vs. wanderlei at 185. lbs.
All those other theories ar pimpe dreams. These are the only 2 match ups involving Silav and fighters in other weight class.
1 more possability to Silva vs. Matt hughes at 185 lb, but I doubt that as well.
I promise you all that GSP wont be fighting Silva any time with in the next 3 years. GSP vs. Penn 2, will be a real possability,but sorry to say Silva vs. GSP is a pipe dream! so we might as well stop talking about it![/quote]
[quote comment=”383328″][quote comment=”383255″][quote comment=”382199″][quote comment=”381568″]Does it really matter who wins this fight? These guys are all battling for second place in this division. Anderson Silva has beaten everyone, except Yushin yet. Once he does beat Yushin, this division is done.
Franklin - 2 loses lasting barely 3 rounds, 1 broken nose
Lutter
- 1 lose, Silva wins on his back
Marquardt- 1 lose, was he ever in the fight?
Leben
- 1 lose, the beginning
Hendo
- 1 lose, was he ever in the fight?
Okami
- ?
6 fights in the UFC, 6 dominating wins not even lasting 20 minutes. This wieght class has found its king of the hill.[/quote]
I understand your thought process but it IMO is wrong because………Silva is going to leave the division. These fighters realize that and they are fighting for slots #2 and #3 that will turn into #1 and #2 once Silva bolts for GSP or ‘Page depending on where you think he will go next; up or down in weight as I have read both directions.
If he would get beat and decide to come back to the MW division, then whoever is champ better grab the wife and the dog and head for the hills![/quote]
Duedes get in in your thick skulls that silva, will never omve down to 170 lbs. He said it a million times already. If he were to switch weight classes it would be to light heavyweight.
So y dont you all stop wating your time by talking about GSP vs. Silva because it wont happen, ubless GSP moves up to 185 lb, which won happen anytime soon because GSP isnt even champion right now, and he has NEVER successfully defend te title.
GSP vs. Silva wont happe at least not for another 3 years. however, GSP vs. Liddell at 205 is a possability, as is Anderson vs. wanderlei at 185. lbs.
All those other theories ar pimpe dreams. These are the only 2 match ups involving Silav and fighters in other weight class.
1 more possability to Silva vs. Matt hughes at 185 lb, but I doubt that as well.
I promise you all that GSP wont be fighting Silva any time with in the next 3 years. GSP vs. Penn 2, will be a real possability,but sorry to say Silva vs. GSP is a pipe dream! so we might as well stop talking about it![/quote][/quote]
Corection:
GSP vs. Silav wont happen, at least not for another 3 years. However Silva vs. Lidell at 205 is a possaiblity, as is Anderson vs. Wanderlei at 185 lb
[quote comment=”381877″][quote comment=”381416″][quote comment=”381404″]If Travis Lutter was champ - no one would care - unmarketable!!!! Like Big Timmaa[/quote]
If he dominated everyone as champ I think he would be marketable. I mean look at anderson silva he doesn’t even speek english and some how people don’t question his marketability.[/quote]
how can you even compare lutter to silva? man what have you been smoking? i want some. lutter is a boring fighter and does not stand a chance. everyone was talking about his submissoin skills and looked want happened he got submitted by silva. yea i don’t agree with one guy who said he doesn’t talk bs. a fighter has to say he can win the fight otherwise he would never get payed to fight. so he does talk alittle bs. and everyone else talks alot of bs. joe rogan talks the most he acts like he knows it all but he sound like an idoit on ppv’s. i rather listen to randy talk but the ufc wrecked that for us. and that mike guy just reads a paper that tells him what to say or he listens to joe. they piss me off so much during the ppv’s i wish you could have the choice of have them talk or not. cause i would choice to not have them talk. but thats just me. i have my own brain thank you very much. i don’t need 2 retards to tell me what is happening. i got eyes i can see for myself. and they’re wrong most of the time cause they only see what they can see from where they’re sitting. but i got camera angles. so please please joe and mike quit your job and let someone who knows the sport have it.[/quote]
[quote comment=”381634″]I think Rich decisions Travis. 3 fights in the MW division I’d like to see:
Franklin vs. Hendo
Marquardt vs. Lutter
Okami vs. Leben (Okami is usually boring but Leben will get in his face)[/quote]
Three great fights, I would still like to see a Hendo vs. Silva and Lutter vs. Silva rematches to that list. Someone already said that Luter has come the closest to beating Silva and I think he can game plan better to make it to at least the 2nd to 3rd round. I am still thinking Hendo can make this fight better than his last one with Silva.
Silva is one tough dude and I would never bet against him, unless he was fighting Randy or Brock…maybe not even Brock.
Never said it was going to happen, just that there are articles out there stating it. Hendo said he would not move down either. Look where he ended up.
I think most people want to see Franklin vs Henderson. If Franklin was to win then the Middleweight division would really be lost. I mean could anyone really see Rich beating Silva!? And waht would happen to Henderson if he lost again. 0-3 in UFC would most probably be the end for him. Could be interesting few months for this division.
[quote comment=”381568″]Does it really matter who wins this fight? These guys are all battling for second place in this division. Anderson Silva has beaten everyone, except Yushin yet. Once he does beat Yushin, this division is done.
Franklin - 2 loses lasting barely 3 rounds, 1 broken nose
Lutter
- 1 lose, Silva wins on his back
Marquardt- 1 lose, was he ever in the fight?
Leben
- 1 lose, the beginning
Hendo
- 1 lose, was he ever in the fight?
Okami
- ?
6 fights in the UFC, 6 dominating wins not even lasting 20 minutes. This wieght class has found its king of the hill.[/quote]
Yeah, because that’s all MMA is about. Who is the champ. We don’t care about all the other great fighters out there. Just the one guy at the top. In case you are wondering, that’s sarcasm. 2nd place in a stacked division of world-class fighters doesn’t matter? What are you talking about?!
Franklin is tool, so i hope Lutter comes of age and smashs him. I love Lutters style. He’s a technician and i hope he picks Franklin apart and retires him.
I got my money on Lutter. I like Rich too, but I want to see Lutter win. Lutter is a cool guy. I met him before. He doesn’t have all the coaches most other fighters have, he’s just a regular guy who teaches at his martial arts school and anyone that wants can go train with him.
[quote comment=”381404″]If Travis Lutter was champ - no one would care - unmarketable!!!! Like Big Timmaa[/quote]
Big Timma was more marketable than you might think. He was the guy you hated to watch and wanted to loose. So a majority of the people who bought his fights… bought, just to see him loose.
real classy guy, i like how he doesnt bs and say he is gonna stand, which im sure franklin and everyone knew.
i definently give him a chance in this fight
if lutter is in shape and makes weight i’d give him achance as well. i still favor franklin in this fight though. i wana see franklin vs hendo.
Lutter is walking away with this one.
If Travis Lutter was champ - no one would care - unmarketable!!!! Like Big Timmaa
[quote comment=”381404″]If Travis Lutter was champ - no one would care - unmarketable!!!! Like Big Timmaa[/quote]
Speak for yourself.
[quote comment=”381404″]If Travis Lutter was champ - no one would care - unmarketable!!!! Like Big Timmaa[/quote]
If he dominated everyone as champ I think he would be marketable. I mean look at anderson silva he doesn’t even speek english and some how people don’t question his marketability.
franklin got this. i dont see lutter taking him to the ground.
franklin by Tko
[quote comment=”381389″]if lutter is in shape and makes weight i’d give him achance as well. i still favor franklin in this fight though. i wana see franklin vs hendo.[/quote]
Lutter is formidable, but I think Rich is just the tougher man, and should be able to beat Lutter up, while staying out of a submission. Franklin rd 3 TKO!
It will be a decent fight!
At least we know one thing, if Lutter does win, it will be in round one, or round two, or round three. Haha. Lutter’s cool but I’m pullin for Rich in this one.
Say what you want against this guy but he came closer to anyone else in recent years to beating silva, I’ve never seem silva look so bad in a long time. He might be the guy to do it, the only one who seems to realize you can’t stand and bang with silva or else its over for you.
I like Lutter but, Franklin’s my boy hope he comes back strong for the sake of both fighters it swould be nice to see a war both on the feet and the ground but, hope Franklin gets the knock out.
Does it really matter who wins this fight? These guys are all battling for second place in this division. Anderson Silva has beaten everyone, except Yushin yet. Once he does beat Yushin, this division is done.
Franklin - 2 loses lasting barely 3 rounds, 1 broken nose
Lutter - 1 lose, Silva wins on his back
Marquardt- 1 lose, was he ever in the fight?
Leben - 1 lose, the beginning
Hendo - 1 lose, was he ever in the fight?
Okami - ?
6 fights in the UFC, 6 dominating wins not even lasting 20 minutes. This wieght class has found its king of the hill.
I’m picking the upset. Lutter via unanimous decision!
lutter armbar 2 round
I think Rich decisions Travis. 3 fights in the MW division I’d like to see:
Franklin vs. Hendo
Marquardt vs. Lutter
Okami vs. Leben (Okami is usually boring but Leben will get in his face)
i see this fight being similar to the franklin/macdonald fight. franklin coming out on top.
this will be a real ring a ding dong dandy.
sorry lutter theres only one guy tough enough to be called 2nd best and it aint you!
[quote comment=”381568″]
Franklin - 2 loses lasting barely 3 rounds, 1 broken nose
[/quote]
Make that Broken Nose x2
[quote comment=”381530″]Say what you want against this guy but he came closer to anyone else in recent years to beating silva, I’ve never seem silva look so bad in a long time. He might be the guy to do it, the only one who seems to realize you can’t stand and bang with silva or else its over for you.[/quote]
actually ryon chonan got closer cuz he did beat him in recent years! i think lutter will come out for an early take down from the outside and franklin will sutff his take downs..to take out a striker you have to set up the take down by standing in front of him…lutter know he made dumb mistake when he shot out from the outside and silva grazed him with that flying knee! franklin has more top 10 experience i pull for franklin 3rd tko.
[quote comment=”381634″]I think Rich decisions Travis. 3 fights in the MW division I’d like to see:
Franklin vs. Hendo
Marquardt vs. Lutter
Okami vs. Leben (Okami is usually boring but Leben will get in his face)[/quote]
nice match up man…id rather see hendo vs marquardt
[quote comment=”381634″]I think Rich decisions Travis. 3 fights in the MW division I’d like to see:
Franklin vs. Hendo
Marquardt vs. Lutter
Okami vs. Leben (Okami is usually boring but Leben will get in his face)[/quote]
good idea
i had forgotten, but this video reminded me on how lutter could have very well won the fight if they would have stopped it as fast as they stop the fights nowadays! He was 2-3 seconds short, silva was not defending any of those hits!
[quote comment=”381416″][quote comment=”381404″]If Travis Lutter was champ - no one would care - unmarketable!!!! Like Big Timmaa[/quote]
If he dominated everyone as champ I think he would be marketable. I mean look at anderson silva he doesn’t even speek english and some how people don’t question his marketability.[/quote]
how can you even compare lutter to silva? man what have you been smoking? i want some. lutter is a boring fighter and does not stand a chance. everyone was talking about his submissoin skills and looked want happened he got submitted by silva. yea i don’t agree with one guy who said he doesn’t talk bs. a fighter has to say he can win the fight otherwise he would never get payed to fight. so he does talk alittle bs. and everyone else talks alot of bs. joe rogan talks the most he acts like he knows it all but he sound like an idoit on ppv’s. i rather listen to randy talk but the ufc wrecked that for us. and that mike guy just reads a paper that tells him what to say or he listens to joe. they piss me off so much during the ppv’s i wish you could have the choice of have them talk or not. cause i would choice to not have them talk. but thats just me. i have my own brain thank you very much. i don’t need 2 retards to tell me what is happening. i got eyes i can see for myself. and they’re wrong most of the time cause they only see what they can see from where they’re sitting. but i got camera angles. so please please joe and mike quit your job and let someone who knows the sport have it.
I think Ricardo Almeida is going to be the one to rise up and take that belt from Silva! Excellent take downs, great submission game, we havent seen anyone really go for a submission on silva and you can pretty much assume that if he has a weakness, its sub defense.
i had forgotten, but this video reminded me on how lutter could have very well won the fight if they would have stopped it as fast as they stop the fights nowadays! He was 2-3 seconds short, silva was not defending any of those hits!
did you not see what he did 1 second after and got out of it as if it was nothing.. those shots didn’t even effect him. and everyone is forgetting ONE very important thing…. Anderson silva needed Knee surgery!! he didnt’ take the surgery and took the fight and got the surgery after…. goes to show you that anderson wasn’t 100% like his other fights. so ya guess the only way you can come close to looking like you’ll win is by having anderson not at 100%
This is a dumb match up. Lutter would be better suited in a matc h against Ricardo Almeida or even Thales Leites. Those would be very exciting matches. Lutter and the ground vs, either almeida or leites, will make for a highly technical and exciting grappling match.
[quote comment=”381909″]i had forgotten, but this video reminded me on how lutter could have very well won the fight if they would have stopped it as fast as they stop the fights nowadays! He was 2-3 seconds short, silva was not defending any of those hits!
did you not see what he did 1 second after and got out of it as if it was nothing.. those shots didn’t even effect him. and everyone is forgetting ONE very important thing…. Anderson silva needed Knee surgery!! he didnt’ take the surgery and took the fight and got the surgery after…. goes to show you that anderson wasn’t 100% like his other fights. so ya guess the only way you can come close to looking like you’ll win is by having anderson not at 100%[/quote]
I dont see how people can even say that fight was close. woth or with out a injured leg, I saw the fight as a complete domination by Silva. Those shots did nothing. Lets not forget Silva has one of the best jaws in mma considering the fact that he has never been ko, let alone stunned before.
I say Travis comes out on top
Lutter vs Okami would be awesome. If he beats Franklin, I say they have that matchup for #1 contender.
How bout Ricardo Almeida vs Thales Leites? thatd be a sick jiu jitsu match
If Travis Lutter was champ - no one would care - unmarketable!!!! Like Big Timmaa
Speak for yourself.
If Travis Lutter was champ - I would not care! Happy now:)
[quote comment=”381894″]I think Ricardo Almeida is going to be the one to rise up and take that belt from Silva! Excellent take downs, great submission game, we havent seen anyone really go for a submission on silva and you can pretty much assume that if he has a weakness, its sub defense.[/quote]
Well he’s certainly a dark horse. He’s only just back so let’s see how he gets on against some tougher guys. I’m looking forward to seeing him again.
[quote comment=”381568″]Does it really matter who wins this fight? These guys are all battling for second place in this division. Anderson Silva has beaten everyone, except Yushin yet. Once he does beat Yushin, this division is done.
Franklin - 2 loses lasting barely 3 rounds, 1 broken nose
Lutter
- 1 lose, Silva wins on his back
Marquardt- 1 lose, was he ever in the fight?
Leben
- 1 lose, the beginning
Hendo
- 1 lose, was he ever in the fight?
Okami
- ?
6 fights in the UFC, 6 dominating wins not even lasting 20 minutes. This wieght class has found its king of the hill.[/quote]
I understand your thought process but it IMO is wrong because………Silva is going to leave the division. These fighters realize that and they are fighting for slots #2 and #3 that will turn into #1 and #2 once Silva bolts for GSP or ‘Page depending on where you think he will go next; up or down in weight as I have read both directions.
If he would get beat and decide to come back to the MW division, then whoever is champ better grab the wife and the dog and head for the hills!
[quote comment=”381909″]i had forgotten, but this video reminded me on how lutter could have very well won the fight if they would have stopped it as fast as they stop the fights nowadays! He was 2-3 seconds short, silva was not defending any of those hits!
did you not see what he did 1 second after and got out of it as if it was nothing.. those shots didn’t even effect him. and everyone is forgetting ONE very important thing…. Anderson silva needed Knee surgery!! he didnt’ take the surgery and took the fight and got the surgery after…. goes to show you that anderson wasn’t 100% like his other fights. so ya guess the only way you can come close to looking like you’ll win is by having anderson not at 100%[/quote]
i agree with him. anderson silva would walk all over him if lutter gets another chance.
I met rich at the gym once. At first i wasn’t even sure if it was him but then i saw the tapout shorts he was wearing. He seems nice and i hope he wins
[quote comment=”381404″]If Travis Lutter was champ - no one would care - unmarketable!!!! Like Big Timmaa[/quote]
How can you even compare Tim Silvia to Lutter. Silvia doesnt even deserve to be in the same sentence as Lutter and I belive Lutter would be a very good and marketable champ, he has class.Alsou have to admit he’s got skills and if he wouldnt have been so gassed from cutting weight he would have finished Silva when he had him mounted. Im am a big Franklin fan but think it will be a tough fight for him and could go either way.
Off the subject guys
But this is one of the best BJ Penn highlight reels that I’ve seen. Check it out if Ya’ll got a chance.
Here’s the link:
http://www.bjpenn.com/video/video/show?id=2022293:Video:16459
i just hope that Hendo will go back up to 205 & try to hunt the LHW belt again.
[quote comment=”382147″]If Travis Lutter was champ - no one would care - unmarketable!!!! Like Big Timmaa
Speak for yourself.
If Travis Lutter was champ - I would not care! Happy now:)[/quote]
yes !!
If Rich Franklin loses this fight, his game will become questionable, even though Travis Lutter is a good fighter, it’s just that Rich has a lot riding here since getting straight up mauled by Silva not once but twice.
[quote comment=”382199″][quote comment=”381568″]Does it really matter who wins this fight? These guys are all battling for second place in this division. Anderson Silva has beaten everyone, except Yushin yet. Once he does beat Yushin, this division is done.
Franklin - 2 loses lasting barely 3 rounds, 1 broken nose
Lutter
- 1 lose, Silva wins on his back
Marquardt- 1 lose, was he ever in the fight?
Leben
- 1 lose, the beginning
Hendo
- 1 lose, was he ever in the fight?
Okami
- ?
6 fights in the UFC, 6 dominating wins not even lasting 20 minutes. This wieght class has found its king of the hill.[/quote]
I understand your thought process but it IMO is wrong because………Silva is going to leave the division. These fighters realize that and they are fighting for slots #2 and #3 that will turn into #1 and #2 once Silva bolts for GSP or ‘Page depending on where you think he will go next; up or down in weight as I have read both directions.
If he would get beat and decide to come back to the MW division, then whoever is champ better grab the wife and the dog and head for the hills![/quote]
Duedes get in in your thick skulls that silva, will never omve down to 170 lbs. He said it a million times already. If he were to switch weight classes it would be to light heavyweight.
So y dont you all stop wating your time by talking about GSP vs. Silva because it wont happen, ubless GSP moves up to 185 lb, which won happen anytime soon because GSP isnt even champion right now, and he has NEVER successfully defend te title. GSP vs. Silva wont happe at least not for another 3 years. however, GSP vs. Liddell at 205 is a possability, as is Anderson vs. wanderlei at 185. lbs.
All those other theories ar pimpe dreams. These are the only 2 match ups involving Silav and fighters in other weight class.
1 more possability to Silva vs. Matt hughes at 185 lb, but I doubt that as well.
I promise you all that GSP wont be fighting Silva any time with in the next 3 years. GSP vs. Penn 2, will be a real possability,but sorry to say Silva vs. GSP is a pipe dream! so we might as well stop talking about it!
I would rather see Lutter face eith Almeida or Leites instead of
Franklin.
I am very much lookin forward to Leites vs. Marquardt at UFC 85….Leites will win that fight!
I wish Bisping were fighting Belcher instead of mcCarthy. Dana, if you are listening….You shoud consider giving me Joe Silva’s job!
UFC Matchmaker: JOHN…. that has a nice ring to it, doessnt it? lol
[quote comment=”383258″]I would rather see Lutter face eith Almeida or Leites instead of
Franklin.
I am very much lookin forward to Leites vs. Marquardt at UFC 85….Leites will win that fight!
I wish Bisping were fighting Belcher instead of mcCarthy. Dana, if you are listening….You shoud consider giving me Joe Silva’s job!
UFC Matchmaker: JOHN…. that has a nice ring to it, doessnt it? lol[/quote]
I will do joe Silva’s job for half the pay…Think about it Dana
[quote comment=”383255″][quote comment=”382199″][quote comment=”381568″]Does it really matter who wins this fight? These guys are all battling for second place in this division. Anderson Silva has beaten everyone, except Yushin yet. Once he does beat Yushin, this division is done.
Franklin - 2 loses lasting barely 3 rounds, 1 broken nose
Lutter
- 1 lose, Silva wins on his back
Marquardt- 1 lose, was he ever in the fight?
Leben
- 1 lose, the beginning
Hendo
- 1 lose, was he ever in the fight?
Okami
- ?
6 fights in the UFC, 6 dominating wins not even lasting 20 minutes. This wieght class has found its king of the hill.[/quote]
I understand your thought process but it IMO is wrong because………Silva is going to leave the division. These fighters realize that and they are fighting for slots #2 and #3 that will turn into #1 and #2 once Silva bolts for GSP or ‘Page depending on where you think he will go next; up or down in weight as I have read both directions.
If he would get beat and decide to come back to the MW division, then whoever is champ better grab the wife and the dog and head for the hills![/quote]
Duedes get in in your thick skulls that silva, will never omve down to 170 lbs. He said it a million times already. If he were to switch weight classes it would be to light heavyweight.
So y dont you all stop wating your time by talking about GSP vs. Silva because it wont happen, ubless GSP moves up to 185 lb, which won happen anytime soon because GSP isnt even champion right now, and he has NEVER successfully defend te title.
GSP vs. Silva wont happe at least not for another 3 years. however, GSP vs. Liddell at 205 is a possability, as is Anderson vs. wanderlei at 185. lbs.
All those other theories ar pimpe dreams. These are the only 2 match ups involving Silav and fighters in other weight class.
1 more possability to Silva vs. Matt hughes at 185 lb, but I doubt that as well.
I promise you all that GSP wont be fighting Silva any time with in the next 3 years. GSP vs. Penn 2, will be a real possability,but sorry to say Silva vs. GSP is a pipe dream! so we might as well stop talking about it![/quote]
[quote comment=”383328″][quote comment=”383255″][quote comment=”382199″][quote comment=”381568″]Does it really matter who wins this fight? These guys are all battling for second place in this division. Anderson Silva has beaten everyone, except Yushin yet. Once he does beat Yushin, this division is done.
Franklin - 2 loses lasting barely 3 rounds, 1 broken nose
Lutter
- 1 lose, Silva wins on his back
Marquardt- 1 lose, was he ever in the fight?
Leben
- 1 lose, the beginning
Hendo
- 1 lose, was he ever in the fight?
Okami
- ?
6 fights in the UFC, 6 dominating wins not even lasting 20 minutes. This wieght class has found its king of the hill.[/quote]
I understand your thought process but it IMO is wrong because………Silva is going to leave the division. These fighters realize that and they are fighting for slots #2 and #3 that will turn into #1 and #2 once Silva bolts for GSP or ‘Page depending on where you think he will go next; up or down in weight as I have read both directions.
If he would get beat and decide to come back to the MW division, then whoever is champ better grab the wife and the dog and head for the hills![/quote]
Duedes get in in your thick skulls that silva, will never omve down to 170 lbs. He said it a million times already. If he were to switch weight classes it would be to light heavyweight.
So y dont you all stop wating your time by talking about GSP vs. Silva because it wont happen, ubless GSP moves up to 185 lb, which won happen anytime soon because GSP isnt even champion right now, and he has NEVER successfully defend te title.
GSP vs. Silva wont happe at least not for another 3 years. however, GSP vs. Liddell at 205 is a possability, as is Anderson vs. wanderlei at 185. lbs.
All those other theories ar pimpe dreams. These are the only 2 match ups involving Silav and fighters in other weight class.
1 more possability to Silva vs. Matt hughes at 185 lb, but I doubt that as well.
I promise you all that GSP wont be fighting Silva any time with in the next 3 years. GSP vs. Penn 2, will be a real possability,but sorry to say Silva vs. GSP is a pipe dream! so we might as well stop talking about it![/quote][/quote]
Corection:
GSP vs. Silav wont happen, at least not for another 3 years. However Silva vs. Lidell at 205 is a possaiblity, as is Anderson vs. Wanderlei at 185 lb
[quote comment=”381877″][quote comment=”381416″][quote comment=”381404″]If Travis Lutter was champ - no one would care - unmarketable!!!! Like Big Timmaa[/quote]
If he dominated everyone as champ I think he would be marketable. I mean look at anderson silva he doesn’t even speek english and some how people don’t question his marketability.[/quote]
how can you even compare lutter to silva? man what have you been smoking? i want some. lutter is a boring fighter and does not stand a chance. everyone was talking about his submissoin skills and looked want happened he got submitted by silva. yea i don’t agree with one guy who said he doesn’t talk bs. a fighter has to say he can win the fight otherwise he would never get payed to fight. so he does talk alittle bs. and everyone else talks alot of bs. joe rogan talks the most he acts like he knows it all but he sound like an idoit on ppv’s. i rather listen to randy talk but the ufc wrecked that for us. and that mike guy just reads a paper that tells him what to say or he listens to joe. they piss me off so much during the ppv’s i wish you could have the choice of have them talk or not. cause i would choice to not have them talk. but thats just me. i have my own brain thank you very much. i don’t need 2 retards to tell me what is happening. i got eyes i can see for myself. and they’re wrong most of the time cause they only see what they can see from where they’re sitting. but i got camera angles. so please please joe and mike quit your job and let someone who knows the sport have it.[/quote]
Stop hating people for having a job you want.
[quote comment=”381634″]I think Rich decisions Travis. 3 fights in the MW division I’d like to see:
Franklin vs. Hendo
Marquardt vs. Lutter
Okami vs. Leben (Okami is usually boring but Leben will get in his face)[/quote]
Three great fights, I would still like to see a Hendo vs. Silva and Lutter vs. Silva rematches to that list. Someone already said that Luter has come the closest to beating Silva and I think he can game plan better to make it to at least the 2nd to 3rd round. I am still thinking Hendo can make this fight better than his last one with Silva.
Silva is one tough dude and I would never bet against him, unless he was fighting Randy or Brock…maybe not even Brock.
Never said it was going to happen, just that there are articles out there stating it. Hendo said he would not move down either. Look where he ended up.
I think most people want to see Franklin vs Henderson. If Franklin was to win then the Middleweight division would really be lost. I mean could anyone really see Rich beating Silva!? And waht would happen to Henderson if he lost again. 0-3 in UFC would most probably be the end for him. Could be interesting few months for this division.
[quote comment=”381634″]3 fights in the MW division I’d like to see:
Franklin vs. Hendo
Marquardt vs. Lutter
Okami vs. Leben (Okami is usually boring but Leben will get in his face)[/quote]
Nice matchups. There are still lots of good fights to see at MW. Just because they are not championship fights doesn’t change that.
[quote comment=”381568″]Does it really matter who wins this fight? These guys are all battling for second place in this division. Anderson Silva has beaten everyone, except Yushin yet. Once he does beat Yushin, this division is done.
Franklin - 2 loses lasting barely 3 rounds, 1 broken nose
Lutter
- 1 lose, Silva wins on his back
Marquardt- 1 lose, was he ever in the fight?
Leben
- 1 lose, the beginning
Hendo
- 1 lose, was he ever in the fight?
Okami
- ?
6 fights in the UFC, 6 dominating wins not even lasting 20 minutes. This wieght class has found its king of the hill.[/quote]
Yeah, because that’s all MMA is about. Who is the champ. We don’t care about all the other great fighters out there. Just the one guy at the top. In case you are wondering, that’s sarcasm. 2nd place in a stacked division of world-class fighters doesn’t matter? What are you talking about?!
Franklin is tool, so i hope Lutter comes of age and smashs him. I love Lutters style. He’s a technician and i hope he picks Franklin apart and retires him.
I got my money on Lutter. I like Rich too, but I want to see Lutter win. Lutter is a cool guy. I met him before. He doesn’t have all the coaches most other fighters have, he’s just a regular guy who teaches at his martial arts school and anyone that wants can go train with him.
[quote comment=”381404″]If Travis Lutter was champ - no one would care - unmarketable!!!! Like Big Timmaa[/quote]
Big Timma was more marketable than you might think. He was the guy you hated to watch and wanted to loose. So a majority of the people who bought his fights… bought, just to see him loose.