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EVERY TIME SOMEONE BRAGS ABOUT BEING THE FIRST COMMENT, THAT COMMENT SHOULD BE STRICKEN FROM THE RECORD.

By the way, I think Chuck would not beat Fedor.

Sorry, I whole heartedly agree with Chuck.

I agree too agree with Chuck. I hope Fedor signs with the UFC so all this Fedor is the best P4P crap can stop.

[quote comment="381293"]Sorry, I whole heartedly agree with Chuck.[/quote]

Me too!!

Fedor is SOOO overrated. He’s obviously very good but these thousands of guys who’ve only ever seen him fight on youtube HL reels etc think he’s invincible but he definitely is not.
Chuck vs Fedor would be a good fight, but I think Randy would be Fedor’s 1st defeat. Much the superior wrestler and I’d say better striker.

everything chuck just said was legit.

DITTO! Nuff said.

i think if randy doesn’t fight fedor in the ufc i think chuck should fight him at a catch weight

I do not respect Fedor and notice his legacy is built on a very unstable stack of cards. The hardcore MMA fan (including most of the MMA media writers) has built him up to be unstoppable, but I can clearly see he has no real desire to fight the best anymore.

I will admit that I click on just about every Fedor story I see at Fight Opinion, but I guess I am just a glutton for non-stories.

That crud he pulled with M1 Global is laughable. Is this how the “number one fighter” is supposed to act? Just imagine if every MMA played the games Fedor has been playing since PRIDE folded. MMA would be a laughingstock and completely unwatchable.

Chuck brings up a very good point about Lindland. Why did he take that fight? I’ve heard the Fedor fanatics @ Sherdog say it’s because he’s a olympic medalist, but the guy is still smaller than him. And then he tests himself against a tumor enhanced giant next. This bologna is unreal.

Hardcore MMA fans are pathetic if this fraud is their icon.

It seems kind obvious this is a shill job.

I guess I’ll be the first voice of dissent. I think Fedor is a top P4P fighter, and a top heavyweight. Does the hype on him run a little thick? Sure, he is not unbeatable. And while I am glad Chuck “heard” Fedor hand picks his fights, there is no proof he actually does. Fedor didn’t want to sign his life over to the UFC, and it looks like it has been difficult to get a competative fight elsewhere. But for all the talk that Randy will beat Fedor, he has been saying he does want this fight. And Chuck can knock Lindland all he wants to. Lindland took Rampage to a close decision, which is more than Chuck was ever able to do. Fact of the matter is Lindland is a tough fight at any weight. And sinc it looks like Fedor may not be staying with M-1, maybe Chuck should talk the UFC into offering him a desent contract, and then sign to fight him.

i dont agree w/ chuck that fedor is overated as far as being a great fighter, i do agree that he is not unbeatable and hasnt fought a decent challenger in years and has pick and chosen his fights for a long while. a good takedown defense would go a long way in beating fedor. i think chuck is trying to position himself for a fight w/ fedor in case he lands in the ufc.

u guys r so sad, ur mad cuz he wont fight who you want him to fight so as a last resort you have to talk shit on him and say he is a nobody. kinda childish

[quote comment="381351"]u guys r so sad, ur mad cuz he wont fight who you want him to fight so as a last resort you have to talk shit on him and say he is a nobody. kinda childish[/quote]
We want him to fight top competition. You can’t go around fighting anything less and say you’re still the best.

Dude is losing my respect fast…. He has to start fighting some top competition instead of hand picking very, very beatable opponents. I think many of the UFC’s HWs would be a good fight…..Vera, Kongo, even Sylvia. Even some of the UFC’s LH would be a great fight an dpossible loss for Fedor!!!!

[quote comment="381364"][quote comment="381351"]u guys r so sad, ur mad cuz he wont fight who you want him to fight so as a last resort you have to talk shit on him and say he is a nobody. kinda childish[/quote]
We want him to fight top competition. You can’t go around fighting anything less and say you’re still the best.[/quote]
i completely agree, i want that to, but it seems like since he has not lately people are talking as if he is not even good enough to be in mma and that he is some bum that got lucky for 28 or whatever fights.

A couple points…

1. Why does Chuck say he doesn’t have a “good shot?” Has he seen Fedor fight?? He doesn’t SHOOT for takedowns like American wrestlers…he gets you up high and takes you down…

2. Fedor is high on the P4P list for me because in reality he’s a UFC LHW that is undefeated at HW over the past 7 yrs. If he fought Forrest, he’d be the smaller man. And he’d be about the same size as Tito, Chuck, etc.

[quote comment="381341"]i dont agree w/ chuck that fedor is overated as far as being a great fighter, i do agree that he is not unbeatable and hasnt fought a decent challenger in years and has pick and chosen his fights for a long while. a good takedown defense would go a long way in beating fedor. i think chuck is trying to position himself for a fight w/ fedor in case he lands in the ufc.[/quote]
chuck also better not overlook rashad and needs to keep his mind on him. remember the jardine fight? i think chuck was overlooking jardine at the time and look what happend.

Dana told his boy to make some noise, sense Fedor told Dana to shut the F up – haha

19th – BAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yea chuck mention about moving to heavyweight and he said[quote post="5447"]So I think anybody that can stop a takedown is going to be a good fight for him if they can strike.”[/quote]
Make you wonder if hes talking about himself.

chuck would take him.

[quote comment="381399"]Yea chuck mention about moving to heavyweight and he said[quote post="5447"]So I think anybody that can stop a takedown is going to be a good fight for him if they can strike.”[/quote]
Make you wonder if hes talking about himself.[/quote]

Duh…

Comon I have great respect for Lidell but this is just ridiculous. He just disrespects fedor and trashtalks him. If you want to challange Fedor then call him out with some respect. If Fedor would call out Lidell he would say smth like – Chuck Lidell is a great fighter i have much respect for him, it would be a honor to fight him.

Any moron can go out and talk shit. I remembered last year around this time of year Chuck claimed that he wanted to avenge his fight with Rampage then beat Wanderlei and Shogun, then move to HW and then beat Cro cop and Fedor all in a 2 year span. Last I checked 1 year has passed and he hasn’t done 2 of the 5.

Hey Chuck, beat rampage first. Start small then move up the food chain.

Chuck has always wanted to fight Fedor, hes just not as verbal about it as he was before….Chuck has said a while back the peole he wants to fight before he retires were, Cro Cop, Fedor, and Rampage, but this was back before he lost to Rampage at UFC 71 or whatever. I think he may know something since he is in tight with Dana and is trying to make some noise to set up a possible future fight MAYBE…

if anyone’s over rated its chuck liddell.

Chuck raises really good points. In his last few fights, Fedor was so desperate to get the fight to the ground that he pulls guard repeadiately. I haven’t seen him throw punches on the feet in I don’t know how long.

But yeah, Chuck definitely beats him on the feet and I could see him getting the KO. Especially given the fact that a guy like Couture (Who wasn’t even top dog at LHW) could do so well at HW.

i agree. he’s a great fighter but HIGHLY overrated.

[quote comment="381340"] And while I am glad Chuck “heard” Fedor hand picks his fights, there is no proof he actually does. [/quote]

I think its quite obvious he hand picks his fights. He essentially is a free agent and he fight who he wants when he wants. Is this even in dispute?

chuck’s a hater fedor still undefeated and until someone can knock him out or just beat him his status will remain the same so chuck go cry me a river dont be mad because rampage kytfo.

This is coming from Chuck who has made a career by fighting hand pick wrestlers? and who is he fighting next….Rashad, what a surprise. He wanted no part of Machida so he got Rashad.

Machida could have easily been his opponent, and then they would have had a re match between Shad vs. Tito, but chucky-poo and his camp thought Machida was a bad match up.

Chuck, worry about Rashad, who am I starting to believe has a good shot to beat chuck. As for Fedor, chuck vs. Fedor would be the biggest mistake of Chucks life! FACT!!!

Regardless of who he fights, Fedor would be a heavy favorite to beat any other heavyweight on the planet! Fact!

LHW is stacked compared to HW. I think the only thing that keeps a lot of LHW from moving up to HW is the fear of going up against a behemoth (like Brock) that has to cut weight to make 265lbs. It would be interesting if they created something like a MHW-middle heavy weight, with a max at 225lbs. I think it would be a great promotional thing for somebody, especially the UFC, creating another belt since they have an overstacked 205lb. division.

[quote post="5447"]19th – BAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [/quote]

- Good stuff!

BTW – another great pic of Fedor!

[quote comment="381388"][quote comment="381364"][quote comment="381351"]u guys r so sad, ur mad cuz he wont fight who you want him to fight so as a last resort you have to talk shit on him and say he is a nobody. kinda childish[/quote]
We want him to fight top competition. You can’t go around fighting anything less and say you’re still the best.[/quote]
We want him to fight top competition. You can’t go around fighting anything less and say you’re still the best.[/quote]

~~HE HAS NEVER BEEN THE ONE SAYING HES THE BEST, the fans and MMA fighters have taken that claim.

over-rated chucky, lets not forget you also by way of dana polishes the easier road to winning for you, i mean you have machida or thiago, but they give you rashad, how convenient! YOu talk about matt lindland, he gave rampage a run for his money, but you on the other hand didnt just get beat, but got ABSOLUTELY DESTROYED! and lastly, when you win 28 fights (2 or 3 against current ufc champ noguera) and no real loses, then you can open up your mouth about fedor! show some respect to that kind of record chucky…

How people can say chuck is overated is a joke…. you need to ask yourselves how long he was at the top for. Fair enough to say he’s not your favourie fighter but to say he’s overated is stupid.

It sounds like Chuck is drunk and high again.

I really want to see chuck move up to heavyweight. He has been running his mouth about it for a long time now and I am sick of hearing it, and sick of hearing him talk trash about heavyweighth when he is just hiding behind the fact that the UFC doesnt do mismatch fights.

I wouuld love to see Chuck get the snot beat out of him by Fedor.
Chuck cant beat any tru heavyweights. He cant beat:
Fedor
Nogueira
Barnett
Gonzaga
Arlovski
Brock Lesnar would even kill him
he cant beat Tim Sylvia.

So he should stop running his mouth about heavyweights, since he cant even beat the Light heavyweight champion of the world.

You got to be a real hater no to appreciate Fedor’s skills.

What does chuck no? He still thinks Fedor shoots for takedowns, he sounds like an idiot. all fedor’s takedowns come from body locks…. Chuck, you want to talk trash about people that arent in your division….move up in weight and prove it.
Drink 2 extra beers a day, in addition to whatevcer you drink already, and you will be a heavyweight in 2 weeks!

[quote comment="381423"]if anyone’s over rated its chuck liddell.[/quote]

I used to think that, but not anymore. I do think though, that other fighters don’t study his style enough before they fight him. It seems that a lot of them all make the same mistakes, and they fight Chuck’s fight, not their own.

I am not the biggest Chuck Liddell fan ever, in fact I would say I sont like him, but this is a very valid point that I wholly agree with.

Chuck>Fedor

War Chuck!!!

There will always be excuses, im sure if and when he beats couture, i can just hear people saying “well, he beat randy, but randy is old or some shitty UFC fan excuse like that” its like when some people were saying about lidell, “well rampage just got lucky with that punch” OR “well, jardine just got lucky and he just wasnt himself against jardine” come on people, THEY ARE ALL EXCUSES and at the end of the night, records and wins speak for themselves…

I can’t understand why everyone thinks Fedor is over-rated. Didn’t he beat all of the Pride heavy-weights, including Nog? Didn’t he win the Sambo championship? I can understand why he might not want to be in a restrictive UFC contract, but I don’t think he is dodging the UFC to avoid the best competition. I believe he would fight Randy and any of the UFC heavyweights in a minute to end this trash talk, if the UFC would let him. There is no reason that the UFC can’t co-promote a fight with another organization, except because they want all of the money and control. Just think if Fedor was fighting for another organization and he beat Randy. All of a sudden, the UFC does not have the best heavyweight in the world and their reputation suffers. Then, all of the other UFC heavyweights will want to go to the other organization. The UFC can’t risk that.

mattio, which is it? u whine because he fights a smaller guys, then u whine when he fights a GIANTS…lol, the hipocracy you guys have is laughable!

I would love to see chuck knock out fedor, but at this point we already know that the UFC fighters are better than the pride fighters

Fedor is a ducker

The most single piece of truth I’ve ever heard from a MMA figher in my life. At least someone has the balls to say that Fedor really isn’t all that good. Everyone else is too afraid of fan backlash and therefore won’t exclude Fedor from their own ranking system.
Chuck has earned a great deal of respect from me for that quote.

Chuck makes a point but, fedor fought one of the best fights going toe to toe with Crocop and he would keep getting the takedown , now I know crocop doesnt have the best TDdefense but still that was a bad ass fight. myb Chuck could match up well with fedor but if the fight hits the ground
I think fedor would sub him and im a huge Chuck fan

WOW!!!! Everyone who is all on the Chuck bandwagon should shut the f*** up!!! Page, who we all know will DESTROY Chuck 8 out of 10 times, constantly says (in his opinion) that the two best P4P fighters are Fedor and BJ.

Look at UFC’s HW champion. I love him! But he got COMPLETELY OWNED TWICE by Fedor. Fedor would DEMOLISH anyone the UFC has to offer.

END OF THREAD

he wasted big nog…..twice! nuff said

i agree, chuck liddell is overrated.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. What a joke. Keep ducking Machida beer gut has been.

[quote comment="381329"]I do not respect Fedor and notice his legacy is built on a very unstable stack of cards. The hardcore MMA fan (including most of the MMA media writers) has built him up to be unstoppable, but I can clearly see he has no real desire to fight the best anymore.

I will admit that I click on just about every Fedor story I see at Fight Opinion, but I guess I am just a glutton for non-stories.

That crud he pulled with M1 Global is laughable. Is this how the “number one fighter” is supposed to act? Just imagine if every MMA played the games Fedor has been playing since PRIDE folded. MMA would be a laughingstock and completely unwatchable.

Chuck brings up a very good point about Lindland. Why did he take that fight? I’ve heard the Fedor fanatics @ Sherdog say it’s because he’s a olympic medalist, but the guy is still smaller than him. And then he tests himself against a tumor enhanced giant next. This bologna is unreal.

Hardcore MMA fans are pathetic if this fraud is their icon.[/quote]

your not hardcore…. so you wont understand

Chuck needs to worry about fighters in his class, not fighters that weigh 30 pounds more than him, unless fat shogun shows up again.

does fedor take roids?!

this would be a good fight, chuck doesn’t seem to stay on the ground for to long if he gets taken down, i have seen all of the fedor fights with the excepion of the last two, lindland and the giant. So i’m not sure if fedor is still the same as he was, i know his judo would rival karo’s as best in the ufc but fedor looks weaker than almost everybody else in the hw division.
Arlovski-fedor
randy-fedor
sylvia-fedor
Brock-fedo
any of these id be interested in
HOWEVER
i was thinking these same things about cro cop
Cro cop in my opinion is the BIGGEST disappontment ever in the history nof mma
BIGGEST.

[quote comment="381340"] And while I am glad Chuck “heard” Fedor hand picks his fights, there is no proof he actually does.[/quote]

Jeff Monson has stated publicly that they were in talks to fight, when Fedor pulled the plug in favor of Matt Lindland.

Also, Lindland might be the toughest SoB on the planet, but weight classes exist for a reason. Size matters.

True words Chuck )

the fact that Lindland went 3 rounds with Rampage to a descision and Chuck got KO’d b Rampage doesnt mean shit…did you forget Rampage got brutally KO’d hanging over the ropes like he was dead by Wanderlei, didnt Chuck just beat on Wanderlei for a good 3 rounds? do you know anything about MMA? Each matchup is different…I would like to see Chuck vs Fedor in a HW matchup, but I think if it goes to the ground Chuck will be submitted quick, if it stay standing, I can see Chuck getting a TKO or descision win

[quote comment="381648"]does fedor take roids?![/quote]
Man if he does it sure doesn’t show, I have a much better build than fedor and I’m 100% natural. I half agree with chuck, I’d like fedor to fight some real competition, which he hasn’t in a long time. Syles make fights and who knows maybe chuck has the style to beat fedor, could happen, I’d love to see them fight.

and chuck got beaten by keith jardine. point?

im so glad that most people dont give a shit about “one punch power”. i hear a foghorn: borrrrr-inggggggg. i wonder if chuck enjoys being danas puppet.

“I truly believe [Fedor Emelianenko is] overrated….. You’ve got to wonder why he chose to fight a guy like Matt Lindland —- who weighs 185lbs!”

Hey Chuckie…. what about that blown up 185er Jeremy Horn that you fought in the second fight? That was a huge joke of a fight that you conveniently forgot about… and it was for the belt at the time. Chuck’s full of shit…..

[quote comment="381707"][quote comment="381648"]does fedor take roids?![/quote]
Man if he does it sure doesn’t show, I have a much better build than fedor and I’m 100% natural. I half agree with chuck, I’d like fedor to fight some real competition, which he hasn’t in a long time. Syles make fights and who knows maybe chuck has the style to beat fedor, could happen, I’d love to see them fight.[/quote]

better build than Fedor ..?! d Ive never seen any one with hips like Fedor’s – Fedor is all about core strength – not pussio beach muscles

[quote comment="381290"]EVERY TIME SOMEONE BRAGS ABOUT BEING THE FIRST COMMENT, THAT COMMENT SHOULD BE STRICKEN FROM THE RECORD.

By the way, I think Chuck would not beat Fedor.[/quote]

you obviusly didnt get the point of his statement…he neevr said “he” could beat fedor…hes just stating the obvoius by ducking barnett witt this whole friends excuse…took hong mancho fight in a heart beat…and hes asking for randy cuz he know it may take longer for it to happen and the longer randy sits on the side the better chance fedor has to beat him.

[quote comment="381725"]“I truly believe [Fedor Emelianenko is] overrated….. You’ve got to wonder why he chose to fight a guy like Matt Lindland —- who weighs 185lbs!”

Hey Chuckie…. what about that blown up 185er Jeremy Horn that you fought in the second fight? That was a huge joke of a fight that you conveniently forgot about… and it was for the belt at the time. Chuck’s full of shit…..[/quote]

at that time “bro” jeremy was fighting at 205 for a big hcunk of his career…how do you think he got the match up with forrest? sonnen use to fight at 205 as well. at least chuck fought ligthheavy weights that fought in heavywieght…randy..randellman..vernon white. unlike fedor who has fough many lower weight classes.

i like this sort of stuff. i’m a little sick of fedor’s mythical status when he’s been so far out of competition, and high level competition at that. i don’t know the inner dealings or what his perogative is other than having competition flexibility with regards to sambo, but fedor needs to get his shit together and start fighting some top level guys otherwise all this ‘fedor is p4p #1′ garbage is history. i mean, sherdog still has the guy as their #1 heavyweight….it’s getting stupid. i’m glad people like chuck are calling him out, maybe if the chorus gets loud enough we’ll actually see fedor fight somebody worth fighting.

Chuck Liddell should beat someone competent before talking negatively about Fedor…

i’m sorry but i know everyone is going to yell at me for saying all of pride are over-rated but so is alot of the ufc fighters. like all the heavywieghts are. alot of the lightwieghts and the light heavywieghts.i’m not going to single anyone out. so i’ll leave it at that.

Additionally, Fedor may be “overrated” but he’s still better than anybody else. He may have turned down Jeff Monson, but that’s because Matt Lindland would have spouted loads of trash talk out of his mouth if Fedor denied him, and that would have been much worse for him publicly. Personally, the only person Fedor has anything left to prove to is Josh Barnett. Even Randy Couture, as “big” a fight as that would be, is out-classed by Fedor in every single aspect of MMA. Striking would result in a prompt stoppage in Fedor’s favor, Grappling/Clinch would result in a throw-to GnP-to armbar, and the same for any match where Fedor ends up on the bottom. Randy Couture doesn’t just lack power, he lacks the style and ability to submit or KO Fedor. He might be able to blanket a decisioon, but the chances of him getting armbarred from the bottom for 5 rounds is pretty high. HE is the overrated one. He hasn’t really beaten anybody except for Sylvia. But like I said, Josh Barnett deserves a chance and with his submission skill, he’s the only one that stands a chance.

Fedor fought Lindland because Couture turned down the opportunity.I like Chuck but he is out of line with his statement.I will say that Chuck would be a good match-up with Fedor.

why the hell do fighters even talk about Fedor? Fedor has never ever talked down about another fighter, he only says good things about everybody and has tons of respect for anyone that fights. He doesn’t claim to be the greatest ever, doesn’t say he would destroy everybody. Leave the man alone, all that he wants to do is compete and he leaves it at that.

fedor’s weak! not a chuck fan but i do believe the iceman would maul fedor. fedor is a side show circus fighting nobodies trying to protect his record.as long as he’s been fighting, if he aint lost, he not fighting the right people. i say let kimbo or lesnar throw down with fedor.

if i went down to the local elementary school and started dusting fifth graders would that make me the toughest guy on the block? NO! it mean i’d be beating up on lesser oppents=fedor! thank you drive through please!

Fedor obviously is overrated. The only ppl who don’t think so are his BLIND devotded nuthuggers. I’m not saying he’s sh*t. He just fights ppl who are. If he wants to be known as one of the best you have to fight the best..not middleweights and circus freaks.

twiazted203@hotmail.com

bro… he can fight at 205, that don’t mean he is a 205er….he’s a natural 185er, Horn looks like a fat as when he fights at 205, horn fought at 205 because that is where the bigger money fights were (well that and he was probably being to lazy to cut weight) not because it was the natural fighting weight for him…. Sakuraba fought a bunch of heavyweight fighters, that doesn’t make him a heavyweight….same with Lindland fighting at 205 and heavyweight….

[quote comment="381586"]WOW!!!! Everyone who is all on the Chuck bandwagon should shut the f*** up!!!

Page, who we all know will DESTROY Chuck 8 out of 10 times, constantly says (in his opinion) that the two best P4P fighters are Fedor and BJ.

Look at UFC’s HW champion. I love him! But he got COMPLETELY OWNED TWICE by Fedor. Fedor would DEMOLISH anyone the UFC has to offer.

END OF THREAD[/quote]

Thank You! somebody gets it! No man in mma can beat Fedor. Put it to you this way, he would be the heavy favorite against any heavyweight on the planet…FACT!

I agree with Chuck. I’ve read Chuck’s new book and I was surprised to find how integral he was to the Fertittas and DW in the beginning. He was even present when the Fertitta brothers and Dana first tried jujitsu (sp? – I’m having a mental block wrt the proper spelling). It’s almost like he was an original partner. I can see now why he has such a lucrative contract.

[quote comment="381537"]I really want to see chuck move up to heavyweight. He has been running his mouth about it for a long time now and I am sick of hearing it, and sick of hearing him talk trash about heavyweighth when he is just hiding behind the fact that the UFC doesnt do mismatch fights.

I wouuld love to see Chuck get the snot beat out of him by Fedor.
Chuck cant beat any tru heavyweights. He cant beat:
Fedor
Nogueira
Barnett
Gonzaga
Arlovski
Brock Lesnar would even kill him
he cant beat Tim Sylvia.

So he should stop running his mouth about heavyweights, since he cant even beat the Light heavyweight champion of the world.

You got to be a real hater no to appreciate Fedor’s skills.

What does chuck no? He still thinks Fedor shoots for takedowns, he sounds like an idiot. all fedor’s takedowns come from body locks…. Chuck, you want to talk trash about people that arent in your division….move up in weight and prove it.
Drink 2 extra beers a day, in addition to whatevcer you drink already, and you will be a heavyweight in 2 weeks![/quote]
I afraid that for the most part, I agree with Chuck, but I also agree with you. I agree with what Chuck says, but I do agree with you that Chuck shouldn’t be the fighter talking crap, he has never tried, nor will he try at HW

Wasn’t the fight with Lindland supposed to be with Couture but he turned it down?

Chuck is continuing Dana’s propaganda

LoL at “Fedor is obviously overrated, anyone who thinks otherwise is an obvious blind n*th*gger”

What irony!!!

Learn to think and come to conclusions for yourself, don’t fall victim to the propaganda machine

hear the words from the man himself, liddell wants to fight fedor! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlQ13p90L5o

[quote comment="381923"]Fedor obviously is overrated. The only ppl who don’t think so are his BLIND devotded nuthuggers. I’m not saying he’s sh*t. He just fights ppl who are. If he wants to be known as one of the best you have to fight the best..not middleweights and circus freaks.[/quote]

PRIDE Heavyweights were world-class, and definitely was a lot deeper than the current UFC division. I could list all of his opponents for you, but that shouldn’t be necessary considering you made that assumption. Also, Matt Lindland did not fight Fedor at 185. He was at least 200. If he wasn’t willing to put on the weight and talk all of his trash and fight a bigger opponent, then he SHOULDN’T have. He lost. It shouldn’t be held against Fedor that his challenger was a MW.

Well said chuck i have been saying the same thing for years but people dont wanna listen to me but now since you said this some may listen. Fedor has not beaten eanyone worth talking about you put him in the ufc he will leavr just like cro cop did because he makes his living on weaker opponents……thanks again for coming out and saying the truth chuck!

off topic sort of; name any top ten fighters that Lindland has beaten, I should clarify that the fighters can be top ten at any point. Other than Pat Miletich (only due to holding a title and defending it, and I dont count Carlos Newton, because as a Human Being I am large enough to contain hypocrisy).

Look what happened to Crocop when he came into the UFC. Talent wise, Crocop was rated just about as good as Emelianenko. I think Chuck might be right about this one.

Gee Chucky was Jardine under rated? ya puke!!

ok here is the truth how the hell can over-rated chuck talk about picking fights,,,thats how over-rated chuck stil gets big fights he didnt want no part of thiago silva so he took a bum who shouldnt even be in the ufc in rashad

cmon chuck man up and fight thiago and get ktfo

over-rated chuck is mad cause fedor mouthed off to his boyfriend

[quote comment="381650"]fedor looks weaker than almost everybody else in the hw division.[/quote]

If you have watched every fight except the last two, you would know that Fedor is not weak in the least. Maybe you were trying to say he is deceptively extremely strong. He usually overpowers opponents and takes them to the ground before either submitting them or keeping them on the ground with strength.

[quote comment="381650"]
Arlovski-fedor
randy-fedor
sylvia-fedor
Brock-fedo
[/quote]

I would love to see these fights as i’m sure any red blooded fight fan would like to see. I think the majority of his biggest challenges are in the UFC hands down, and the ones you listed (with the exception of Arlovski pending a new contract) and Josh Barnett would surely cement his status as P4P #1 in the world, till someone beats him.

Bottom line, Fedor vs Chuck would be interesting, (Fedor vs anyone in the top 10 is interesting) and as much as i love Fedor and want to see all of the fights listed above… it seems more likely that money talks and we might have to fight through seeing Kimbo and Fedor throw down or Ben Rothwell and Fedor touch gloves before we see any of them. (no disrespect to Ben or Kimbo I like them both)

Why do you always show the picture of Fedor eating ICE CREAM when he’s discussed?

[quote comment="382164"]Why do you always show the picture of Fedor eating ICE CREAM when he’s discussed?[/quote]

irony

[quote comment="382127"]ok here is the truth how the hell can over-rated chuck talk about picking fights,,,thats how over-rated chuck stil gets big fights he didnt want no part of thiago silva so he took a bum who shouldnt even be in the ufc in rashad

cmon chuck man up and fight thiago and get ktfo

over-rated chuck is mad cause fedor mouthed off to his boyfriend[/quote]

wow i was wondering when you’d show up and start spouting chuck sux over and over again. are you like some repetative post robot?? did chuck woop on your big bro or something??
give it a rest already, we know your opinion on chuck by reading your name……………………..

Fedor and Dana need to compromise so everyone can stfu about Fedor this and Fedor that. Dana needs to be more flexible and Fedor needs some real challengers to fight.

dont start writing him off hes gone the distance with NOG twice which is very impressive and won both times

id love to see him face chuck or randy

im a huge chuck fan but the comment

“I’ve heard he picks and chooses some of his fights. You’ve got to wonder why he chose to fight a guy like Matt Lindland —- who weighs 185lbs!”

pot kettle chuck

chuck asked for
tito twice
rampage
horn
randy twice
wanderlei
shogun (but shogun pulled out)

rampage down the line

most top fighters have some say in who they are going to fight

lindland is not some chump hes an olympic wrestler

no guy whos 27-0 the cut didnt count should be disrespected

if like KOS you kill someones unbeaten streak like he did to sanchez then fair play but until chuck does that he needs to stfu

i can only see this as an attempt to taunt fedor into signing

dana should run ads of fedor calling him a coward and provoke him into the ufc
DW probably has footage from the contract negotiations that can be easily manipulated

unless dream becomes massive in japan in a hurry and basically replaces pride then fedors only option is to come to the ufc

sadly DW and the rest of the world know it but fedor and his management are holding out
he cant get well paid at the small shows

fighters need to be in the ufc to get the sponsorship and movie deals and so that the world sees their mma legacy

UFC own all his pride fights so unless he signs then its as if his legacy so far wont exist as i dont think he has the rights to the footage of them

if they dont market him as a great champion then after the randy thing is over he risks being forgotten

ask new TUF fans who josh barnett is… no idea
randleman baroni coleman ninja robbie lawler all the eastern former pride guys matt lindland … and countless others

before long more people will know kimbo than the old school pride guys

and for fedor to retain his international fame he really needs to fight in the US for ufc

i 2nd that motion. cansmasher n he’ll NEVER prove otherwise.

[quote comment="381702"]True words Chuck )[/quote]

i think chuck should look in the mirror and say that cause he is so overrated.

[quote comment="381537"]I really want to see chuck move up to heavyweight. He has been running his mouth about it for a long time now and I am sick of hearing it, and sick of hearing him talk trash about heavyweighth when he is just hiding behind the fact that the UFC doesnt do mismatch fights.

I wouuld love to see Chuck get the snot beat out of him by Fedor.
Chuck cant beat any tru heavyweights. He cant beat:
Fedor
Nogueira
Barnett
Gonzaga
Arlovski
Brock Lesnar would even kill him
he cant beat Tim Sylvia.

So he should stop running his mouth about heavyweights, since he cant even beat the Light heavyweight champion of the world.

You got to be a real hater no to appreciate Fedor’s skills.

What does chuck no? He still thinks Fedor shoots for takedowns, he sounds like an idiot. all fedor’s takedowns come from body locks…. Chuck, you want to talk trash about people that arent in your division….move up in weight and prove it.
Drink 2 extra beers a day, in addition to whatevcer you drink already, and you will be a heavyweight in 2 weeks![/quote]
One word for that post of yours: awesome.

[quote comment="381988"][quote comment="381586"]WOW!!!! Everyone who is all on the Chuck bandwagon should shut the f*** up!!!

Page, who we all know will DESTROY Chuck 8 out of 10 times, constantly says (in his opinion) that the two best P4P fighters are Fedor and BJ.

Look at UFC’s HW champion. I love him! But he got COMPLETELY OWNED TWICE by Fedor. Fedor would DEMOLISH anyone the UFC has to offer.

END OF THREAD[/quote]

Thank You! somebody gets it! No man in mma can beat Fedor. Put it to you this way, he would be the heavy favorite against any heavyweight on the planet…FACT![/quote]

really then why when randy was in the ufc fedor wouldn’t sign. i’ll tell you why he is ducking him he is a coward. he knows if they were to fight he would loss. he had a hard time keeping linland from taking him down he had to hold the ropes and matt is a middlewieght randy fights in light heaywieght and heavywieght all the time randy would wax him like a surf board. THE END!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[quote post="5447"]Fedor obviously is overrated. The only ppl who don’t think so are his BLIND devotded nuthuggers. I’m not saying he’s sh*t. He just fights ppl who are. If he wants to be known as one of the best you have to fight the best..not middleweights and circus freaks.

PRIDE Heavyweights were world-class, and definitely was a lot deeper than the current UFC division. I could list all of his opponents for you, but that shouldn’t be necessary considering you made that assumption. Also, Matt Lindland did not fight Fedor at 185. He was at least 200. If he wasn’t willing to put on the weight and talk all of his trash and fight a bigger opponent, then he SHOULDN’T have. He lost. It shouldn’t be held against Fedor that his challenger was a MW. [/quote]

whether he was 185 or 200 isn’t the point. He’s not a natural heavyweight and that obviously gives fedor the edge and as for not holding fedor accountable..lol…he obviously likes fighting cans or guys that make him look good. When was the last time he fought tough competition? I’m sure he can tell his organization STOP GIVING ME CRAP A*S FIGHTERS AND GIVE ME REAL COMPETITION. R u trying to tell me he fought those guys because pride was so crap they had to bring in circus freaks and middleweights to fight him?..there had to have been tougher comp than that. What would you say if someone like gsp fought guyz that he could obviously tool for the past couple of years?..you would say STOP BEING A PUS*Y and fight some real comp or be prepared to loose your top P4P status. The same should be said to fedor and the only ppl who wouldn’t think so are obviously his fans that are so in love with him that they can’t even think objectively. Any top fighter who doesn’t face REAL competition is a joke

[quote post="5447"]LoL at “Fedor is obviously overrated, anyone who thinks otherwise is an obvious blind n*th*gger”

What irony!!!

Learn to think and come to conclusions for yourself, don’t fall victim to the propaganda machine [/quote]

Do you look up words before you use them?? how is what i said irony. I said he is obviously overrated because when you use LOGIC, any one who thinks that someone is top P4P and top in his division while he has been fighting cans for years, looking impressive against unskilled fighters, has to think that because of their own personal reasons (i.e. he’s their fav fighter, they think even though he fights cans he still has the skill, fighting cans isn’t his fault, his competition is actually good, their blind nuthuggers)using facts and reason to come to a conclusion isn’t ironic at all so next time you post…consult a dictionary first

[quote comment="382176"][quote comment="382164"]Why do you always show the picture of Fedor eating ICE CREAM when he’s discussed?[/quote]

irony[/quote]

I actually think it’s funny. Usually Fedor’s face is so emotionless and cold. There’s nothing in his eyes, it’s scary, I look at him and wonder if ate a small child for lunch.

[quote comment="381415"]Comon I have great respect for Lidell but this is just ridiculous. He just disrespects fedor and trashtalks him. If you want to challange Fedor then call him out with some respect. If Fedor would call out Lidell he would say smth like – Chuck Lidell is a great fighter i have much respect for him, it would be a honor to fight him.[/quote]
Nah, Randy already tried that and Fedor still didn’t sign with the UFC. You have to play dirty and entice him into the UFC by discrediting him.

[quote comment="381482"]chuck’s a hater fedor still undefeated and until someone can knock him out or just beat him his status will remain the same so chuck go cry me a river dont be mad because rampage kytfo.[/quote]
Circus freaks aren’t going to beat Fedor, he HAS to come to the UFC for that to happen and he knows it.

[quote comment="381537"]I really want to see chuck move up to heavyweight. He has been running his mouth about it for a long time now and I am sick of hearing it, and sick of hearing him talk trash about heavyweighth when he is just hiding behind the fact that the UFC doesnt do mismatch fights.

I wouuld love to see Chuck get the snot beat out of him by Fedor.
Chuck cant beat any tru heavyweights. He cant beat:
Fedor
Nogueira
Barnett
Gonzaga
Arlovski
Brock Lesnar would even kill him
he cant beat Tim Sylvia.

So he should stop running his mouth about heavyweights, since he cant even beat the Light heavyweight champion of the world.

You got to be a real hater no to appreciate Fedor’s skills.

What does chuck no? He still thinks Fedor shoots for takedowns, he sounds like an idiot. all fedor’s takedowns come from body locks…. Chuck, you want to talk trash about people that arent in your division….move up in weight and prove it.
Drink 2 extra beers a day, in addition to whatevcer you drink already, and you will be a heavyweight in 2 weeks![/quote]

Chuck did beat Randy twice and Randy beat a couple of guys on that list(pretty convincingly to I might add),so I think at least we could say he has a good chance at beating a few of them. The guy is imposible to takedown and he has one punch KO power. Chuck is not done yet, not many guys beat Wandy like that.

[quote comment="381941"]twiazted203@hotmail.com

bro… he can fight at 205, that don’t mean he is a 205er….he’s a natural 185er, Horn looks like a fat as when he fights at 205, horn fought at 205 because that is where the bigger money fights were (well that and he was probably being to lazy to cut weight) not because it was the natural fighting weight for him…. Sakuraba fought a bunch of heavyweight fighters, that doesn’t make him a heavyweight….same with Lindland fighting at 205 and heavyweight

so what about the other i mentioned? vernon white? randellman? couture as well even though he fight at 205 sometimes but still is a heaveyweight non the less. i can speculate he wont join dream for the fact barnett is there.

[quote comment="381544"]mattio, which is it? u whine because he fights a smaller guys, then u whine when he fights a GIANTS…lol, the hipocracy you guys have is laughable![/quote]
WE want to see him fight TOP HEAVY WEIGHTS. Is that to much to ask. Not some circus clown or someone TWO WEIGHT CLASSES below him. What’s laughable is that you don’t see a problem with the supposedly top HW not actually fighting top competition, going on 3 years and it’s not looking good in the near future either. Matt Hughes was dominating 3 years ago. Things change and there is always a NEW KID on the block that you have to beat if you want to be the best. 3 years in MMA is the difference between night and day (3 years ago Hughes beat GSP, a little different outcome now). Don’t expect everyone to ride on Fedor’s past glory ,because he really wasn’t that dominant(he won,but he went to decision against anyone who was any good)and today is a different ball game. He has to fight TODAY or he is nothing but a has been. A lot of guys are calling him out and he won’t step up. When he starts fighting I’ll start respecting him.

[quote comment="381869"]Fedor fought Lindland because Couture turned down the opportunity.I like Chuck but he is out of line with his statement.I will say that Chuck would be a good match-up with Fedor.[/quote]

No, he was supposed to fight Monson(HW), but he chose to fight Lindland (MW).

fedor has knocked someone’s out before, in 12 seconds in the fight, so chuck is wrong about saying that fedor did’t knock anyone out in his feet.

just search it in youtube you’ll going to see it

Fedor is an overinflated ball of hype.

[quote comment="382397"]
Nah, Randy already tried that and Fedor still didn’t sign with the UFC. You have to play dirty and entice him into the UFC by discrediting him.[/quote]
Silly lidell, I think some of danas sperm stayed in him after their many nights of butt love. I mean come on, don’t you hear a lot of dana in this. But heres the real question… ARE THEY REALL HAVING BUTT LOVE??

Lidell via OMAGOODNESS

Someone please arrange the fight between Chuck and Fedor. Chuck needs to focus on his training and be careful what he says. Fedor has destroyed all the top heavyweights and only has Randy to go. Hopefully, we see that this year.

I like both fighters but Fedor hasnt fought anyone worth wild in a few years. . its time to step up to the plate

I like both fighters but Fedor needs to step up to the plate and fight some relevent. . NO MORE has beens or never was be’s because say what you will about CHUCK but he never ducks or avoids anyone

Don’t wanna come off as a noob, but dig this theory:
THE ROID THEORY
Wanderlei gets beat soundly by Tito and never makes a dent in the UFC, then goes to Pride in Japan and rips Rampage a new booty hole. Obliterates the competition. Then Slowly winds down as Hendo cleans his clock in the rematch. He then comes to UFC again, part II, and is a zombie. I mean utterly punchy like Evander Holyfield. He gets soundly beat by Liddell and is on a three fight skid, yet never gets ostericized like Chuck. Wheres the frenetic pace the AX Murderer once set?

Cro Cop is an assassin in Pride and comes over looking like complete dung. Cheick Kongo is TERRIBLE! Yet he builds a name for himself after raping Cro Cop. Seriously, Hendo, Chuck, Rampage, and Anderson Silva would maul CC.

Shogun has severe man teets and gets choked by Forrest!?? IS this the same SHogun that mopped the floor with Rampage? I mean Wandy and SHogun didnt beat Rampage…THEY DESTROYED

Fedor almost gets owned by Matt Lindland, an excellent MW, but still a MIDDLE WIEGHT!!? WTF?

HIM! its apparent that performance enhancers have a 95% chance of being involved with Pride stars. WHy do they suck so bad now? Except Silva, Hendo, and Herring who is now upgraded to Marginal…(Nog is OK but not the savior of the HW division)…FEDOR, like most PRIDE guys is a hype job…JUST WAIT.

its going to be pretty embarrasing when rashad beats chuck, oh yeah 27-1 is not overated in mma

UMMMMM rashad will not beat CHUCK that is funny i mean rashad couldnt even beat TITo

Chuck should not be talking crap about anyone when he can’t even represent the UFC like an adult at 37 years old, falling asleep with his half-drunk ass in interviews.

Show some respect Chuck, some guys weren’t just beating up grapplers for the last 5 years.

all you guy who said that fedor is overrated,

i havee a question for you,

if not fedor, then who’s the # 1 heavyweight in the world?

not nougeirav (he got destroyed by fedor twice)
randy? may #2 but not yet #1,he’s still need to beat fedor before he’ll be #1 heavyweight.

Chuck will beat Rashad, but guys – Fedor is so much more than Rashad. Sure Fedor is very selective in picking his fights, wouldnt you if you didnt have the protection and spoon feeding some UFC guys get.

Chuck could defenitly not take on any of the HWs and put on a good show. Brock would plow him through the cage and he would come out the other side of the mesh in little bits pieces. Nog would just take the smacks then twist his arm from its shoulder. Herring would take the punishment and ekk out a decision. Kongo would put his foot through chucks ribcage. Tim would fight the same game and out poke him. Vera might be something that Liddell could stand with.

GoColts
Mar 22nd, 2008 at
Mar 22nd, 2008 at 10:19 am Quote this comment
EVERY TIME SOMEONE BRAGS ABOUT BEING THE FIRST COMMENT, THAT COMMENT SHOULD BE STRICKEN FROM THE RECORD.

who cares who writes first. y do ppl get so mad because someone said they were 1st. id get on here and do it daily just to piss u off.

fedor is a pussy and randy would smash him. randy is the number 1 heavyweight in the world and hes 44

Gord
Mar 22nd, 2008 at 11:58 pm Quote this comment
I really want to see chuck move up to heavyweight. He has been running his mouth about it for a long time now and I am sick of hearing it, and sick of hearing him talk trash about heavyweighth when he is just hiding behind the fact that the UFC doesnt do mismatch fights.

I wouuld love to see Chuck get the snot beat out of him by Fedor.
Chuck cant beat any tru heavyweights. He cant beat:
Fedor
Nogueira
Barnett
Gonzaga
Arlovski
Brock Lesnar would even kill him
he cant beat Tim Sylvia.

hes a f**king light heavyweight???hello it he suppose to beat guys that out weight him by 30-40 pounds???how u ever seen him fight a fight in the heavyweight devision? he would have a extra 30-40 pound on him, how can u claim u know how good or bad he would fight at that weight?

chuck walks around at 220lbs and couture fights at 220lbs…
soooooo i think chuck could handle his own if he were a heavyweight…….

and second you guys r all crazy….crazy…..even if fedor hasnt been fighting top guys…..he is still a top 3 guy himself if still not the best……im wondering if any if u guys even know who he has beaten????

1-Ricardo Arona(was at his best, handed him his 1st loss)
2-Renato Sobral(was at his best, handed him his 3rd loss)
3-Heath Herring
4-Antonio Nogueira (not once but twice)
5-Mark Coleman (TWICE)
6-Kevin Randleman
7-CroCop (at his bset)
8-Mark Hunt(on some of ur guys top 10 lists he made it..lol)

and alot of no names just like every other fighter—–only difference, Fedor won ALLLLLLLL them too!!!!!!!!!

his Resume speaks for its self……he just wants some CASH for his next big one…….Mayweather and De La Hoya got paid what $20 million for their fight…..

Fedor is not a god, he is a man and all men can be beaten. All you guys that swinging from his nuts need to stop taken the criticism personally.

Chuck is high as usual…

Blya, Fedor viybi etu suku amarikanskuyu po polnoi programme

[quote comment="381848"]Additionally, Fedor may be “overrated” but he’s still better than anybody else. He may have turned down Jeff Monson, but that’s because Matt Lindland would have spouted loads of trash talk out of his mouth if Fedor denied him, and that would have been much worse for him publicly. Personally, the only person Fedor has anything left to prove to is Josh Barnett. Even Randy Couture, as “big” a fight as that would be, is out-classed by Fedor in every single aspect of MMA. Striking would result in a prompt stoppage in Fedor’s favor, Grappling/Clinch would result in a throw-to GnP-to armbar, and the same for any match where Fedor ends up on the bottom. Randy Couture doesn’t just lack power, he lacks the style and ability to submit or KO Fedor. He might be able to blanket a decisioon, but the chances of him getting armbarred from the bottom for 5 rounds is pretty high. HE is the overrated one. He hasn’t really beaten anybody except for Sylvia. But like I said, Josh Barnett deserves a chance and with his submission skill, he’s the only one that stands a chance.[/quote]

You all forget that the only reSON Fedor fought lindland in Bodag, was because Randy turned down a 2 million dollar offer to fight Fedor in BOdog!

[quote comment="383113"]Gord
Mar 22nd, 2008 at 11:58 pm Quote this comment
I really want to see chuck move up to heavyweight. He has been running his mouth about it for a long time now and I am sick of hearing it, and sick of hearing him talk trash about heavyweighth when he is just hiding behind the fact that the UFC doesnt do mismatch fights.

I wouuld love to see Chuck get the snot beat out of him by Fedor.
Chuck cant beat any tru heavyweights. He cant beat:
Fedor
Nogueira
Barnett
Gonzaga
Arlovski
Brock Lesnar would even kill him
he cant beat Tim Sylvia.

hes a f**king light heavyweight???hello it he suppose to beat guys that out weight him by 30-40 pounds???how u ever seen him fight a fight in the heavyweight devision? he would have a extra 30-40 pound on him, how can u claim u know how good or bad he would fight at that weight?[/quote]

So, than maybe he shoudl bstop running his mouth about heavyweights that he is protected from ever having to fight since the UFC doesnt do any cross weight class matches!

Any one who thinks Fedor would loose to chuck Liddell, should be banned from this site. That is the worst comment I have ever heard on this site out of years or blogging. U my freind not only miscrunscrued my whole point, but you dont warrant a response from an informed fan as my self, there fore please stop responding to my posts!

[quote comment="383066"]Chuck will beat Rashad, but guys – Fedor is so much more than Rashad. Sure Fedor is very selective in picking his fights, wouldnt you if you didnt have the protection and spoon feeding some UFC guys get.

Chuck could defenitly not take on any of the HWs and put on a good show. Brock would plow him through the cage and he would come out the other side of the mesh in little bits pieces. Nog would just take the smacks then twist his arm from its shoulder. Herring would take the punishment and ekk out a decision. Kongo would put his foot through chucks ribcage. Tim would fight the same game and out poke him. Vera might be something that Liddell could stand with.[/quote]

Exactly! Thats my point and the reason for why I am sick of chuck running his mouth about heavyweights! Ateention Mania: Someone finally someone gets it. Props to YIKES!

There is problem with Chuck’s statement. If Fedor is not the top Heavyweight in the world, who is? Randy? Nogueira? Fedor had consistently beaten top heavyweights during his reign as pride champ, including the current UFC champ. Its true, Fedor needs to fight someone relevant in order to hold on to his p4p status. I really hope the fight with Randy gets made, I honestly believe Fedor will beat Randy. Then what will Dana and his puppets say? Randy was Overrated. Some people just sicken me.

[quote post="5447"]Chuck should not be talking crap about anyone when he can’t even represent the UFC like an adult at 37 years old, falling asleep with his half-drunk ass in interviews.

Show some respect Chuck, some guys weren’t just beating up grapplers for the last 5 years.[/quote]

Dana and liddells head coach later stated that he had pneumoina or something and had taken a large dose of sedatives the night before
Sedatives make you seem out of it, like you’re drunk and obviously make you sleepy. So before you judge him..do some reaserch and remember he’s human.

And while chuck has been beating up grapplers..at leat they’re quality opponents, top 10 fighters who the mma world recognizes for their skill..unlike the cans and freakshows that Fedor happily fights..and i really don’t want to hear any crap about how he had no choice to fight them..

what is going on with Fedor did he pay back the 1.5 million??
Is he a really a free agent??
Has he had more meetings with Dana and the UFC????
How much longer is this Circus going to continue?????
Is arlofski a free agent?????

i don’t know i do agree w/chuck a little, but competition is pretty stiff in mma in all leagues. i don’t know too many fighters that have dominated the way fedor has. so while it may not be the top competition, he isn’t winning any fights by decision, he is destroying them all. he doesn’t seem to be ducking randy at all, he just seems to be business first right now, and i can respect that. i know allthe organizations are doing the same thing so why is it wrong for him?

[quote comment="381885"]fedor’s weak! not a chuck fan but i do believe the iceman would maul fedor. fedor is a side show circus fighting nobodies trying to protect his record.as long as he’s been fighting, if he aint lost, he not fighting the right people. i say let kimbo or lesnar throw down with fedor.[/quote]

I laugh every time i read your comment. I can understand opinions like ” he havent fought top competition the last two years ” but how can you compare him to Kimbo or Lesnar? That would be way worse match up then Fedor/Hong Man Choi. Fedor would totaly destroy both Kimbo and Lesnar.

Matchups im intressted in is Fedor/Barnett Fedor/Couture Fedor/Tim Sylvia. And i would bet in favor of Fedor in every one of this three fights.

I dream of a fight when Feodor kicks the mierda out of Chuck and yes i think the ice man is the one who is overated.

[quote comment="383641"][quote comment="381885"]fedor’s weak! not a chuck fan but i do believe the iceman would maul fedor. fedor is a side show circus fighting nobodies trying to protect his record.as long as he’s been fighting, if he aint lost, he not fighting the right people. i say let kimbo or lesnar throw down with fedor.[/quote]

I laugh every time i read your comment. I can understand opinions like ” he havent fought top competition the last two years ” but how can you compare him to Kimbo or Lesnar? That would be way worse match up then Fedor/Hong Man Choi. Fedor would totaly destroy both Kimbo and Lesnar.

Matchups im intressted in is Fedor/Barnett Fedor/Couture Fedor/Tim Sylvia. And i would bet in favor of Fedor in every one of this three fights.[/quote]
glad i could make you laugh dude.but seriouly i do believe lesnar would give him a run for his money and i do believe kimbo would prolly kill him if they fought in someones backyard.

It sounds to me that Chuck is trolling.

There is no way in hell, frozn or not, that he would be able to take Fedor out. Chuck, put the pipe down.

Kids, this is what happens when you do drugs.

the iceman smoke some ice man

I’ll fight Fedor!

sorry i have to say that chuck is a crazy bastard. He should beat rampage before he talks about over rated, cuz chuck was over-rated for years as “the best light heavy-weight in the world” before he (rampage) showed up. secondly fedor has a power punch, and he knocked zulu off his feet twice, and the biggest guy chuck knocked down is randy. i’m really sick of this whole arguement that fedor isn’t the best heavy weight in the world. his biggest competition is randy, sylvia, and Nog. and if you want to truely talk about being over-rated let’s talk randy and tim, randy lost to chuck (a light heavyweight) and to Ricco Rodriguez (the worst heavyweight champ ever). Tim has lost plenty of times (to nog who fedor beat twice), to competitors who are nowhere near fedor’s level. Truth is we know that chuck rides dana white’s cock all day, and isn’t a big fan of pride fighters (especially since rampage crushed him). so it’s not a big suprise he would say something like this. But if he wants to talk shit he should try to fight fedor, i’d love to see that, chuck would get smashed and embarrassed, i think he’d probably lose half his fans too.

Fedor’s legacy may be open to question; but Chuck is hardly the guy who should be questioning another fighter’s opponent list. Fighting guys like Jeremy Horn and Babalu (good fighters, but never the best in the 205 lb. division) doesn’t say much for Chuck. Rampage demonstrated that Chuck has NEVER been the best at 205, so why Chuck criticize a HW champ who actually did fight the best HWs is a mystery.

Liddell needs to worry about his own division. He did well against Wanderlei, but has pretty much sucked otherwise since the 2nd Tito fight in 2006. I think Rashad has a good chance of beating Chuck, and would like to see it happen.

[quote comment="381397"]Dana told his boy to make some noise, sense Fedor told Dana to shut the F up – haha[/quote]

That pretty much sums it up. If chuck fights fedor we might see some shit like rocky 4 “If he dies, he dies.”

i forget who was that guys name who just beat Kongo but got fu*ked up so bad against Fedor they had to stop it….. wasnt his name keith hearing or somthing?????????????

I agree that hes not fighting the best fighters now but he has proven hes one of the best in the HW division. Hes beaten current UFC champion in Nogueira twice, so for Dana to suggest that he isnt even near the best in the world really is a load of bull. He has stated he wants to fight against Randy and would even do it in the UFC if he could fight anywhere else too. Dana should have signed him for a one fight contract.

[quote comment="382072"]Well said chuck i have been saying the same thing for years but people dont wanna listen to me but now since you said this some may listen. Fedor has not beaten eanyone worth talking about you put him in the ufc he will leavr just like cro cop did because he makes his living on weaker opponents……thanks again for coming out and saying the truth chuck![/quote]

He’s beaten his share of current and former UFC champions.

[quote comment="384828"]i forget who was that guys name who just beat Kongo but got fu*ked up so bad against Fedor they had to stop it….. wasnt his name keith hearing or somthing?????????????[/quote]

Don’t…ever…post…again…

[quote comment="381537"]I really want to see chuck move up to heavyweight. He has been running his mouth about it for a long time now and I am sick of hearing it, and sick of hearing him talk trash about heavyweighth when he is just hiding behind the fact that the UFC doesnt do mismatch fights.

I wouuld love to see Chuck get the snot beat out of him by Fedor.
Chuck cant beat any tru heavyweights. He cant beat:
Fedor
Nogueira
Barnett
Gonzaga
Arlovski
Brock Lesnar would even kill him
he cant beat Tim Sylvia.

So he should stop running his mouth about heavyweights, since he cant even beat the Light heavyweight champion of the world.

You got to be a real hater no to appreciate Fedor’s skills.

What does chuck no? He still thinks Fedor shoots for takedowns, he sounds like an idiot. all fedor’s takedowns come from body locks…. Chuck, you want to talk trash about people that arent in your division….move up in weight and prove it.
Drink 2 extra beers a day, in addition to whatevcer you drink already, and you will be a heavyweight in 2 weeks![/quote]
I agree with all that you said. But I can think of at least 1 HW Chuck can beat……..Randy Couture.

that pic is friggin priceless. And, yes, anything the Iceman says..

[quote comment="385751"][quote comment="381537"]I really want to see chuck move up to heavyweight. He has been running his mouth about it for a long time now and I am sick of hearing it, and sick of hearing him talk trash about heavyweighth when he is just hiding behind the fact that the UFC doesnt do mismatch fights.

I wouuld love to see Chuck get the snot beat out of him by Fedor.
Chuck cant beat any tru heavyweights. He cant beat:
Fedor
Nogueira
Barnett
Gonzaga
Arlovski
Brock Lesnar would even kill him
he cant beat Tim Sylvia.

So he should stop running his mouth about heavyweights, since he cant even beat the Light heavyweight champion of the world.

You got to be a real hater no to appreciate Fedor’s skills.

What does chuck no? He still thinks Fedor shoots for takedowns, he sounds like an idiot. all fedor’s takedowns come from body locks…. Chuck, you want to talk trash about people that arent in your division….move up in weight and prove it.
Drink 2 extra beers a day, in addition to whatevcer you drink already, and you will be a heavyweight in 2 weeks![/quote]
I agree with all that you said. But I can think of at least 1 HW Chuck can beat……..Randy Couture.[/quote]
Probably not at HW…

[quote comment="383272"][quote comment="383066"]Chuck will beat Rashad, but guys – Fedor is so much more than Rashad. Sure Fedor is very selective in picking his fights, wouldnt you if you didnt have the protection and spoon feeding some UFC guys get.

Chuck could defenitly not take on any of the HWs and put on a good show. Brock would plow him through the cage and he would come out the other side of the mesh in little bits pieces. Nog would just take the smacks then twist his arm from its shoulder. Herring would take the punishment and ekk out a decision. Kongo would put his foot through chucks ribcage. Tim would fight the same game and out poke him. Vera might be something that Liddell could stand with.[/quote]

Exactly! Thats my point and the reason for why I am sick of chuck running his mouth about heavyweights! Ateention Mania: Someone finally someone gets it. Props to YIKES![/quote]

i dont think chuck has a chance against Fedor, but if randy can get the HW belt i dont think chuck would have such a hard time either

That an awesome sweater, it’s good to see Fedor has good taste! LMAO!

Chuck can talk all he wants…. i dont agree with him… Although i do agree fedor needs to fight alot more opponents to offically say hes the best P4P. And for the people who say he hasnt fought noone.. what u talking about? hes beat Crocop, Hunt, Coleman, Minotauro, Arona, Herring…. If anyones over-rated is Couture.

[quote comment="383839"]It sounds to me that Chuck is trolling.

There is no way in hell, frozn or not, that he would be able to take Fedor out. Chuck, put the pipe down.

Kids, this is what happens when you do drugs.[/quote]
[quote comment="384454"]sorry i have to say that chuck is a crazy bastard. He should beat rampage before he talks about over rated, cuz chuck was over-rated for years as “the best light heavy-weight in the world” before he (rampage) showed up. secondly fedor has a power punch, and he knocked zulu off his feet twice, and the biggest guy chuck knocked down is randy. i’m really sick of this whole arguement that fedor isn’t the best heavy weight in the world. his biggest competition is randy, sylvia, and Nog. and if you want to truely talk about being over-rated let’s talk randy and tim, randy lost to chuck (a light heavyweight) and to Ricco Rodriguez (the worst heavyweight champ ever). Tim has lost plenty of times (to nog who fedor beat twice), to competitors who are nowhere near fedor’s level. Truth is we know that chuck rides dana white’s cock all day, and isn’t a big fan of pride fighters (especially since rampage crushed him). so it’s not a big suprise he would say something like this. But if he wants to talk shit he should try to fight fedor, i’d love to see that, chuck would get smashed and embarrassed, i think he’d probably lose half his fans too.[/quote]

Chuck needs to fight moore and talk/smoke less

so chuck, big talk, how ’bout talk with yer little buddy dana and get him to let fedor fight in UFC and then you could get your chance to prove your point about fedor and see how u make out…my guess on that fight is, fedor throws u to the mat and pounds your face in till u decide to quit. fedor fought everyone when Pride was around and didn’t duck anybody. he is loyal to his sambo championship and the ufc/dana won’t allow him to fight anywhere else. it’s not fedor’s fault that dana wants total control of his fighters. fedor isn’t overrated, he just won’t give in to ufc’s demands. i agree he needs a good fight soon and the lack of competition is hurting his status but UFC’s current HW champ got beat down badly twice by fedor. all the name calling and disrespect the UFC is throwing fedor’s way is just going to piss him off and he’ll stay in russia and stay rich and we, the mma fans, will lose out by not getting to see fedor in the fights we want to see.

[quote comment="382275"][quote comment="381988"][quote comment="381586"]WOW!!!! Everyone who is all on the Chuck bandwagon should shut the f*** up!!!

Page, who we all know will DESTROY Chuck 8 out of 10 times, constantly says (in his opinion) that the two best P4P fighters are Fedor and BJ.

Look at UFC’s HW champion. I love him! But he got COMPLETELY OWNED TWICE by Fedor. Fedor would DEMOLISH anyone the UFC has to offer.

END OF THREAD[/quote]

Thank You! somebody gets it! No man in mma can beat Fedor. Put it to you this way, he would be the heavy favorite against any heavyweight on the planet…FACT![/quote]

really then why when randy was in the ufc fedor wouldn’t sign. i’ll tell you why he is ducking him he is a coward. he knows if they were to fight he would loss. he had a hard time keeping linland from taking him down he had to hold the ropes and matt is a middlewieght randy fights in light heaywieght and heavywieght all the time randy would wax him like a surf board. THE END!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]
holy shit i hope u r joking

ok im going to post this question for the 50th time. while chuck had the belt who did he ever back out of fighting?? what LHW ever challenged him and got turned down?? he fought all of the top LHW ’s in the ufc at the time, and beat them all. half of this site thinks randy can beat fedor….chuck beat him twice bad. now all i hear is page wooped his ass over and over, so what?? people said wandi was gonna kill him and chuck used his face for a punching bag.

i never said that chuck is the greatest ever, but to say he is overrated is super stupid. if he is overrated i guess all the guys he has wooped are too. keep in mind chuck is an old bastard now. i’d like to see rampage still woopin up on most of the division when he is almost 40.

[quote comment="385732"][quote comment="384828"]i forget who was that guys name who just beat Kongo but got fu*ked up so bad against Fedor they had to stop it….. wasnt his name keith hearing or somthing?????????????[/quote]

Don’t…ever…post…again…[/quote]

if you think i was serious about the keith hearing thing its sarcasm for people who say Fedor has never beat anyone tough…….

“anybody that can stop a takedown”

I think CroCop is kinda of known for being able to stop a takedown, and yet amazingly Fedor beat him.
Maybe what Chuck meant is anybody that can stop any takedown. Also he should be able to punch better than Fedor. In fact, a perfect MMA fighter would most likely probably beat Fedor.

All the people who say that Fedor is overrated are either stupid or they watched too much of fake wrestling. Chuck is a true idiot and I knew that even before this statement. Fedor doesnt run from anyone and he especially wouldnt run from little Chucky! You gotta understand that Fedor has nothing to be afraid of and thats the only way he could accomplish what he did. So I suggest you watch that man fight and see that his skills are really awesome!

fedor would beat chuck.

there have been times in the past where he has taken on a few easy fights and then stepped up and beaten tough guys like cro cop and mark hunt. emelianenko is a game plan master and would come prepared for chuck. afterall he was the one who figured out how to take cro cop out of his zone.

[quote comment="392267"]“anybody that can stop a takedown”

I think CroCop is kinda of known for being able to stop a takedown, and yet amazingly Fedor beat him.
Maybe what Chuck meant is anybody that can stop any takedown. Also he should be able to punch better than Fedor. In fact, a perfect MMA fighter would most likely probably beat Fedor.[/quote]

Cro Cop is not a great takedown defender. Gonzaga was able to take him down and keep him there (until the ref stood them up for no reason), and Gonzaga’s not even a great wrestler.

ok first off ufc is only americas top competition theres plenty of more stronger fighters out there europ asia best in there organization, just shut up, and about fedor your all wrong im a randy fan but i still dont think he can handle him

I think Chuck would murder Fedor fatser than Randy would, ask Fedor he’ll tell you.

Seriously guys….

Just because Chuck has one punch knockout power doesnt mean he is a better striker then Fedor.

E.g. George Foreman vs Muhammad Ali

Ali uses rope-a-dope which causes Foreman to throw his patented ungodly punches to Alis body. This tires Foreman out, then Ali KOs him.

Fedor has superior striking if you ask me, and he is a FUCKING master of gameplans.

He will probably use that same gameplan.

No Fedor probably wont take Chuck down but dont discount the possibility. He uchi-matad an olympic greco silver medalist , so anything is possible. Besides Fedors takedowns are not usually single and double legs. Ive noticed in his fights he loves to throw a bomb, rushes in at incredible speed and either establishes double overs or double unders (he can take down with both, which is chucks disadvantage, he is used to people shooting in on him, or only taking down with unders, this will be something he is not used to). Also Fedor is quicker then Chuck. And also remember Chucks main weapon is his big right, fedor will be more then prepared for that. look what he did to cro cop, who is a much superior and more well rounded striker then chuck (but he does have a weapon of choice, LHK).

i seriously dont see any way chuck could beat fedor.

Chuck is only saying what his x-manager Dana White (AKA LEX LUTHER) and the Fertittas want him to. It’s true that Chuck fought 6 or 7 WRESTLERS in a row in his reign as a top LHW and was then commended for knocking them all out. His experience as a wrestler made his opponents takedowns worthless and his training in Kempo gave him a striking advantage against all of them. To include the former pride/ Pancrase fighter (in which they only allow open palm strikes) Vernon Tiger White as a legitimate striking opponent is ridiculous. When he did face Rampage the first time he was DISMANTLED and the second KO’d. No one has more hand picked thier opponents than Chuck Liddell. (Here comes another wrestler-Mr. Evans please stand up) Kind of inevitable when he has a direct line to the President of the organization. It is not suprising that everything he said is really a criticism on himself.
Fedor has decisively beaten the current heavyweight champion twice. Making him in my eyes the true INTERIM Heavy Weight Champion of the UFC. Couture is still Champ. (Of the UFC)
There is nothing I look forward to more than a Fedor V Couture fight (next to Rampage Silva 3!!!!Do something about that Thai Clinch Rampage) and I honestly don’t know who would win, Randy always suprises to he11 outta me.
I do also agree that Fedor has not had a fight of interest for a long time, although the Hong Man Choi fight was pretty brutal.
Fedor has been ready and willing to fight Randy Couture since last year but has not been willing to sell himself to the UFC. The contract with the UFC that has been offered does not allow him to compete anywhere else. Very difficult for Fedor considering he is the Current SAMBO CHAMPION.
Regardless of how he performs now or later, no one can take away his phenomenal record. (WHY DO YOU THINK RANDY WANTS TO FIGHT HIM SO BAD HE LEFT THE UFC BECAUSE LEX LUTHER WOULDNT LET IT HAPPEN!!!!!). Fedor has proven,to this point, to be the most advanced evolution of MMA along side BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, George St. Pierre and Mauricio Shogun Rua (Pre-UFC) and maybe even Nick Diaz.
If you are still comparing UFC v. PRIDE in favor of the UFC, I do not believe you to be an MMA fan but a UFC fan. So many great fighters have been discovered in both organizations.
If you are a true MMA fan then Im sure you, as I, have seen all accessible MMA bouts to date and would happily look forward to even more organizations being created as this would make the talent pool grow in leaps and bounds. Without PRIDE we would have no Rampage and where would Minotauro have gone for all those years after he left the UFC the first time. Pride took on so many of the fighters the UFC pushed aside and in the case of Wanderlei let him develop his skills and gave Chute Box the notoriety they needed to produce all thos SILVAS and Shogun.(BTW how come they are all called Silva???) I do not like the attempted monopolization of MMA by the UFC as it really only hurts the evolution of the sport. The UFC really limits the ability for truely remarkable fighters to be discovered unless they are first found by other organizations as they are more focused on thier viewership, ratings, and marketability than talent. (Although they have done leaps and bounds for its exposure which may in the end serve the same purpose.)
On a side note. I noticed Silva and Shogun looked emaciated in thier debuts and I didnt think much of it until I read the Cheik Kongo remark. It makes sense. It finally makes sense.

Greetings… this is my first post in the site and, however, all has been said, I just want to give my vote to Fedor, P4P the MMA’s Emperor. Reading comments on a fagget like Liddell, how couldn’t beat Keith Jardine, is a probe of the decadence of the UFC credibility. U want Fedor to come to UFC to watch him fight one time at a year? And after Couture against who? Nogueira again??? Btw I’m Nogueira’s big fan aswell. Cheers to all that pronounce pro-Fedor, for Liddell fag-admirors, I can’t concentrate to writte any objetive comment cuz I’m amusingly watching less-than2min knock TFO RampageVsLiddell…. Btw cool site

[quote comment="381293"]Sorry, I whole heartedly agree with Chuck.[/quote]
Yea bc Chuck Lidell isn’t overrated right? Get on chuck your finished don’t become the Jose Canseco of MMA

first off i dont believe any thing he says about fedor picking his fights because i just watched a video of fedor knocking some guy from his feet. so chuck doesnt know what he is even talking about

Fedor would dominate Chuck. He’d simply out-hustle him…Chuck likes to take breaks and he wouldn’t get one with Fedor. The only one out there who has a legit shot at beating Fedor is the Randy Couture who fought Gonzaga (that was Randy at his best).

chuck has to retire. He got his ass kicked by rampage and he knows that he´ll never be a champ again. Fedor will probably beat him easily in the first round. He´s probably the gay friend of dana white, always defending the ufc with phrases like: pride fighters don´t do it good at the octagon. I would tell him, hey chuck: minotaur nogueira ufc champ was before a pride champ, hey chuck: rampage the ufc champ was before a pride champ, hey chuck: spider silva, was before a pride fighter.

So all you knucklehead Fedor haters think its okay for Fedor to fight Brock Lesner who clearly on fight night out weighs Fedor by 50 lbs after rehydration but oh Fedor is a loser because he fought Lindland whom Fedor out weighed by 35-40 lbs. Your all laughable but not objective. Can’t argue with idiots, I give up…Fedor is the best ever at MMA. The real fans of the sport know this.