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EVERY TIME SOMEONE BRAGS ABOUT BEING THE FIRST COMMENT, THAT COMMENT SHOULD BE STRICKEN FROM THE RECORD.

By the way, I think Chuck would not beat Fedor.

Sorry, I whole heartedly agree with Chuck.

I agree too agree with Chuck. I hope Fedor signs with the UFC so all this Fedor is the best P4P crap can stop.

[quote comment=”381293″]Sorry, I whole heartedly agree with Chuck.[/quote]

Me too!!

Fedor is SOOO overrated. He’s obviously very good but these thousands of guys who’ve only ever seen him fight on youtube HL reels etc think he’s invincible but he definitely is not.
Chuck vs Fedor would be a good fight, but I think Randy would be Fedor’s 1st defeat. Much the superior wrestler and I’d say better striker.

everything chuck just said was legit.

DITTO! Nuff said.

i think if randy doesn’t fight fedor in the ufc i think chuck should fight him at a catch weight

I do not respect Fedor and notice his legacy is built on a very unstable stack of cards. The hardcore MMA fan (including most of the MMA media writers) has built him up to be unstoppable, but I can clearly see he has no real desire to fight the best anymore.

I will admit that I click on just about every Fedor story I see at Fight Opinion, but I guess I am just a glutton for non-stories.

That crud he pulled with M1 Global is laughable. Is this how the “number one fighter” is supposed to act? Just imagine if every MMA played the games Fedor has been playing since PRIDE folded. MMA would be a laughingstock and completely unwatchable.

Chuck brings up a very good point about Lindland. Why did he take that fight? I’ve heard the Fedor fanatics @ Sherdog say it’s because he’s a olympic medalist, but the guy is still smaller than him. And then he tests himself against a tumor enhanced giant next. This bologna is unreal.

Hardcore MMA fans are pathetic if this fraud is their icon.

It seems kind obvious this is a shill job.

I guess I’ll be the first voice of dissent. I think Fedor is a top P4P fighter, and a top heavyweight. Does the hype on him run a little thick? Sure, he is not unbeatable. And while I am glad Chuck “heard” Fedor hand picks his fights, there is no proof he actually does. Fedor didn’t want to sign his life over to the UFC, and it looks like it has been difficult to get a competative fight elsewhere. But for all the talk that Randy will beat Fedor, he has been saying he does want this fight. And Chuck can knock Lindland all he wants to. Lindland took Rampage to a close decision, which is more than Chuck was ever able to do. Fact of the matter is Lindland is a tough fight at any weight. And sinc it looks like Fedor may not be staying with M-1, maybe Chuck should talk the UFC into offering him a desent contract, and then sign to fight him.

i dont agree w/ chuck that fedor is overated as far as being a great fighter, i do agree that he is not unbeatable and hasnt fought a decent challenger in years and has pick and chosen his fights for a long while. a good takedown defense would go a long way in beating fedor. i think chuck is trying to position himself for a fight w/ fedor in case he lands in the ufc.

u guys r so sad, ur mad cuz he wont fight who you want him to fight so as a last resort you have to talk shit on him and say he is a nobody. kinda childish

[quote comment=”381351″]u guys r so sad, ur mad cuz he wont fight who you want him to fight so as a last resort you have to talk shit on him and say he is a nobody. kinda childish[/quote]
We want him to fight top competition. You can’t go around fighting anything less and say you’re still the best.

Dude is losing my respect fast…. He has to start fighting some top competition instead of hand picking very, very beatable opponents. I think many of the UFC’s HWs would be a good fight…..Vera, Kongo, even Sylvia. Even some of the UFC’s LH would be a great fight an dpossible loss for Fedor!!!!

[quote comment=”381364″][quote comment=”381351″]u guys r so sad, ur mad cuz he wont fight who you want him to fight so as a last resort you have to talk shit on him and say he is a nobody. kinda childish[/quote]
We want him to fight top competition. You can’t go around fighting anything less and say you’re still the best.[/quote]
i completely agree, i want that to, but it seems like since he has not lately people are talking as if he is not even good enough to be in mma and that he is some bum that got lucky for 28 or whatever fights.

A couple points…

1. Why does Chuck say he doesn’t have a “good shot?” Has he seen Fedor fight?? He doesn’t SHOOT for takedowns like American wrestlers…he gets you up high and takes you down…

2. Fedor is high on the P4P list for me because in reality he’s a UFC LHW that is undefeated at HW over the past 7 yrs. If he fought Forrest, he’d be the smaller man. And he’d be about the same size as Tito, Chuck, etc.

[quote comment=”381341″]i dont agree w/ chuck that fedor is overated as far as being a great fighter, i do agree that he is not unbeatable and hasnt fought a decent challenger in years and has pick and chosen his fights for a long while. a good takedown defense would go a long way in beating fedor. i think chuck is trying to position himself for a fight w/ fedor in case he lands in the ufc.[/quote]
chuck also better not overlook rashad and needs to keep his mind on him. remember the jardine fight? i think chuck was overlooking jardine at the time and look what happend.

Dana told his boy to make some noise, sense Fedor told Dana to shut the F up - haha

19th - BAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yea chuck mention about moving to heavyweight and he said[quote post=”5447″]So I think anybody that can stop a takedown is going to be a good fight for him if they can strike.”[/quote]
Make you wonder if hes talking about himself.

chuck would take him.

[quote comment=”381399″]Yea chuck mention about moving to heavyweight and he said[quote post=”5447″]So I think anybody that can stop a takedown is going to be a good fight for him if they can strike.”[/quote]
Make you wonder if hes talking about himself.[/quote]

Duh…

Comon I have great respect for Lidell but this is just ridiculous. He just disrespects fedor and trashtalks him. If you want to challange Fedor then call him out with some respect. If Fedor would call out Lidell he would say smth like - Chuck Lidell is a great fighter i have much respect for him, it would be a honor to fight him.

Any moron can go out and talk shit. I remembered last year around this time of year Chuck claimed that he wanted to avenge his fight with Rampage then beat Wanderlei and Shogun, then move to HW and then beat Cro cop and Fedor all in a 2 year span. Last I checked 1 year has passed and he hasn’t done 2 of the 5.

Hey Chuck, beat rampage first. Start small then move up the food chain.

Chuck has always wanted to fight Fedor, hes just not as verbal about it as he was before….Chuck has said a while back the peole he wants to fight before he retires were, Cro Cop, Fedor, and Rampage, but this was back before he lost to Rampage at UFC 71 or whatever. I think he may know something since he is in tight with Dana and is trying to make some noise to set up a possible future fight MAYBE…

if anyone’s over rated its chuck liddell.

Chuck raises really good points. In his last few fights, Fedor was so desperate to get the fight to the ground that he pulls guard repeadiately. I haven’t seen him throw punches on the feet in I don’t know how long.

But yeah, Chuck definitely beats him on the feet and I could see him getting the KO. Especially given the fact that a guy like Couture (Who wasn’t even top dog at LHW) could do so well at HW.

i agree. he’s a great fighter but HIGHLY overrated.

[quote comment=”381340″] And while I am glad Chuck “heard” Fedor hand picks his fights, there is no proof he actually does. [/quote]

I think its quite obvious he hand picks his fights. He essentially is a free agent and he fight who he wants when he wants. Is this even in dispute?

chuck’s a hater fedor still undefeated and until someone can knock him out or just beat him his status will remain the same so chuck go cry me a river dont be mad because rampage kytfo.

This is coming from Chuck who has made a career by fighting hand pick wrestlers? and who is he fighting next….Rashad, what a surprise. He wanted no part of Machida so he got Rashad.

Machida could have easily been his opponent, and then they would have had a re match between Shad vs. Tito, but chucky-poo and his camp thought Machida was a bad match up.

Chuck, worry about Rashad, who am I starting to believe has a good shot to beat chuck. As for Fedor, chuck vs. Fedor would be the biggest mistake of Chucks life! FACT!!!

Regardless of who he fights, Fedor would be a heavy favorite to beat any other heavyweight on the planet! Fact!

LHW is stacked compared to HW. I think the only thing that keeps a lot of LHW from moving up to HW is the fear of going up against a behemoth (like Brock) that has to cut weight to make 265lbs. It would be interesting if they created something like a MHW-middle heavy weight, with a max at 225lbs. I think it would be a great promotional thing for somebody, especially the UFC, creating another belt since they have an overstacked 205lb. division.

[quote post=”5447″]19th - BAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [/quote]

- Good stuff!

BTW - another great pic of Fedor!

[quote comment=”381388″][quote comment=”381364″][quote comment=”381351″]u guys r so sad, ur mad cuz he wont fight who you want him to fight so as a last resort you have to talk shit on him and say he is a nobody. kinda childish[/quote]
We want him to fight top competition. You can’t go around fighting anything less and say you’re still the best.[/quote]
We want him to fight top competition. You can’t go around fighting anything less and say you’re still the best.[/quote]

~~HE HAS NEVER BEEN THE ONE SAYING HES THE BEST, the fans and MMA fighters have taken that claim.

over-rated chucky, lets not forget you also by way of dana polishes the easier road to winning for you, i mean you have machida or thiago, but they give you rashad, how convenient! YOu talk about matt lindland, he gave rampage a run for his money, but you on the other hand didnt just get beat, but got ABSOLUTELY DESTROYED! and lastly, when you win 28 fights (2 or 3 against current ufc champ noguera) and no real loses, then you can open up your mouth about fedor! show some respect to that kind of record chucky…

How people can say chuck is overated is a joke…. you need to ask yourselves how long he was at the top for. Fair enough to say he’s not your favourie fighter but to say he’s overated is stupid.

It sounds like Chuck is drunk and high again.

I really want to see chuck move up to heavyweight. He has been running his mouth about it for a long time now and I am sick of hearing it, and sick of hearing him talk trash about heavyweighth when he is just hiding behind the fact that the UFC doesnt do mismatch fights.

I wouuld love to see Chuck get the snot beat out of him by Fedor.
Chuck cant beat any tru heavyweights. He cant beat:
Fedor
Nogueira
Barnett
Gonzaga
Arlovski
Brock Lesnar would even kill him
he cant beat Tim Sylvia.

So he should stop running his mouth about heavyweights, since he cant even beat the Light heavyweight champion of the world.

You got to be a real hater no to appreciate Fedor’s skills.

What does chuck no? He still thinks Fedor shoots for takedowns, he sounds like an idiot. all fedor’s takedowns come from body locks…. Chuck, you want to talk trash about people that arent in your division….move up in weight and prove it.
Drink 2 extra beers a day, in addition to whatevcer you drink already, and you will be a heavyweight in 2 weeks!

[quote comment=”381423″]if anyone’s over rated its chuck liddell.[/quote]

I used to think that, but not anymore. I do think though, that other fighters don’t study his style enough before they fight him. It seems that a lot of them all make the same mistakes, and they fight Chuck’s fight, not their own.

I am not the biggest Chuck Liddell fan ever, in fact I would say I sont like him, but this is a very valid point that I wholly agree with.

Chuck>Fedor

War Chuck!!!

There will always be excuses, im sure if and when he beats couture, i can just hear people saying “well, he beat randy, but randy is old or some shitty UFC fan excuse like that” its like when some people were saying about lidell, “well rampage just got lucky with that punch” OR “well, jardine just got lucky and he just wasnt himself against jardine” come on people, THEY ARE ALL EXCUSES and at the end of the night, records and wins speak for themselves…

I can’t understand why everyone thinks Fedor is over-rated. Didn’t he beat all of the Pride heavy-weights, including Nog? Didn’t he win the Sambo championship? I can understand why he might not want to be in a restrictive UFC contract, but I don’t think he is dodging the UFC to avoid the best competition. I believe he would fight Randy and any of the UFC heavyweights in a minute to end this trash talk, if the UFC would let him. There is no reason that the UFC can’t co-promote a fight with another organization, except because they want all of the money and control. Just think if Fedor was fighting for another organization and he beat Randy. All of a sudden, the UFC does not have the best heavyweight in the world and their reputation suffers. Then, all of the other UFC heavyweights will want to go to the other organization. The UFC can’t risk that.

mattio, which is it? u whine because he fights a smaller guys, then u whine when he fights a GIANTS…lol, the hipocracy you guys have is laughable!

I would love to see chuck knock out fedor, but at this point we already know that the UFC fighters are better than the pride fighters

Fedor is a ducker

The most single piece of truth I’ve ever heard from a MMA figher in my life. At least someone has the balls to say that Fedor really isn’t all that good. Everyone else is too afraid of fan backlash and therefore won’t exclude Fedor from their own ranking system.
Chuck has earned a great deal of respect from me for that quote.

Chuck makes a point but, fedor fought one of the best fights going toe to toe with Crocop and he would keep getting the takedown , now I know crocop doesnt have the best TDdefense but still that was a bad ass fight. myb Chuck could match up well with fedor but if the fight hits the ground
I think fedor would sub him and im a huge Chuck fan

WOW!!!! Everyone who is all on the Chuck bandwagon should shut the f*** up!!! Page, who we all know will DESTROY Chuck 8 out of 10 times, constantly says (in his opinion) that the two best P4P fighters are Fedor and BJ.

Look at UFC’s HW champion. I love him! But he got COMPLETELY OWNED TWICE by Fedor. Fedor would DEMOLISH anyone the UFC has to offer.

END OF THREAD

he wasted big nog…..twice! nuff said

i agree, chuck liddell is overrated.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. What a joke. Keep ducking Machida beer gut has been.

[quote comment=”381329″]I do not respect Fedor and notice his legacy is built on a very unstable stack of cards. The hardcore MMA fan (including most of the MMA media writers) has built him up to be unstoppable, but I can clearly see he has no real desire to fight the best anymore.

I will admit that I click on just about every Fedor story I see at Fight Opinion, but I guess I am just a glutton for non-stories.

That crud he pulled with M1 Global is laughable. Is this how the “number one fighter” is supposed to act? Just imagine if every MMA played the games Fedor has been playing since PRIDE folded. MMA would be a laughingstock and completely unwatchable.

Chuck brings up a very good point about Lindland. Why did he take that fight? I’ve heard the Fedor fanatics @ Sherdog say it’s because he’s a olympic medalist, but the guy is still smaller than him. And then he tests himself against a tumor enhanced giant next. This bologna is unreal.

Hardcore MMA fans are pathetic if this fraud is their icon.[/quote]

your not hardcore…. so you wont understand

Chuck needs to worry about fighters in his class, not fighters that weigh 30 pounds more than him, unless fat shogun shows up again.

does fedor take roids?!

this would be a good fight, chuck doesn’t seem to stay on the ground for to long if he gets taken down, i have seen all of the fedor fights with the excepion of the last two, lindland and the giant. So i’m not sure if fedor is still the same as he was, i know his judo would rival karo’s as best in the ufc but fedor looks weaker than almost everybody else in the hw division.
Arlovski-fedor
randy-fedor
sylvia-fedor
Brock-fedo
any of these id be interested in
HOWEVER
i was thinking these same things about cro cop
Cro cop in my opinion is the BIGGEST disappontment ever in the history nof mma
BIGGEST.

[quote comment=”381340″] And while I am glad Chuck “heard” Fedor hand picks his fights, there is no proof he actually does.[/quote]

Jeff Monson has stated publicly that they were in talks to fight, when Fedor pulled the plug in favor of Matt Lindland.

Also, Lindland might be the toughest SoB on the planet, but weight classes exist for a reason. Size matters.

True words Chuck :o)

the fact that Lindland went 3 rounds with Rampage to a descision and Chuck got KO’d b Rampage doesnt mean shit…did you forget Rampage got brutally KO’d hanging over the ropes like he was dead by Wanderlei, didnt Chuck just beat on Wanderlei for a good 3 rounds? do you know anything about MMA? Each matchup is different…I would like to see Chuck vs Fedor in a HW matchup, but I think if it goes to the ground Chuck will be submitted quick, if it stay standing, I can see Chuck getting a TKO or descision win

[quote comment=”381648″]does fedor take roids?![/quote]
Man if he does it sure doesn’t show, I have a much better build than fedor and I’m 100% natural. I half agree with chuck, I’d like fedor to fight some real competition, which he hasn’t in a long time. Syles make fights and who knows maybe chuck has the style to beat fedor, could happen, I’d love to see them fight.

and chuck got beaten by keith jardine. point?

im so glad that most people dont give a shit about “one punch power”. i hear a foghorn: borrrrr-inggggggg. i wonder if chuck enjoys being danas puppet.

“I truly believe [Fedor Emelianenko is] overrated….. You’ve got to wonder why he chose to fight a guy like Matt Lindland —- who weighs 185lbs!”

Hey Chuckie…. what about that blown up 185er Jeremy Horn that you fought in the second fight? That was a huge joke of a fight that you conveniently forgot about… and it was for the belt at the time. Chuck’s full of shit…..

[quote comment=”381707″][quote comment=”381648″]does fedor take roids?![/quote]
Man if he does it sure doesn’t show, I have a much better build than fedor and I’m 100% natural. I half agree with chuck, I’d like fedor to fight some real competition, which he hasn’t in a long time. Syles make fights and who knows maybe chuck has the style to beat fedor, could happen, I’d love to see them fight.[/quote]

better build than Fedor ..?! d Ive never seen any one with hips like Fedor’s - Fedor is all about core strength - not pussio beach muscles

[quote comment=”381290″]EVERY TIME SOMEONE BRAGS ABOUT BEING THE FIRST COMMENT, THAT COMMENT SHOULD BE STRICKEN FROM THE RECORD.

By the way, I think Chuck would not beat Fedor.[/quote]

you obviusly didnt get the point of his statement…he neevr said “he” could beat fedor…hes just stating the obvoius by ducking barnett witt this whole friends excuse…took hong mancho fight in a heart beat…and hes asking for randy cuz he know it may take longer for it to happen and the longer randy sits on the side the better chance fedor has to beat him.

[quote comment=”381725″]”I truly believe [Fedor Emelianenko is] overrated….. You’ve got to wonder why he chose to fight a guy like Matt Lindland —- who weighs 185lbs!”

Hey Chuckie…. what about that blown up 185er Jeremy Horn that you fought in the second fight? That was a huge joke of a fight that you conveniently forgot about… and it was for the belt at the time. Chuck’s full of shit…..[/quote]

at that time “bro” jeremy was fighting at 205 for a big hcunk of his career…how do you think he got the match up with forrest? sonnen use to fight at 205 as well. at least chuck fought ligthheavy weights that fought in heavywieght…randy..randellman..vernon white. unlike fedor who has fough many lower weight classes.

i like this sort of stuff. i’m a little sick of fedor’s mythical status when he’s been so far out of competition, and high level competition at that. i don’t know the inner dealings or what his perogative is other than having competition flexibility with regards to sambo, but fedor needs to get his shit together and start fighting some top level guys otherwise all this ‘fedor is p4p #1′ garbage is history. i mean, sherdog still has the guy as their #1 heavyweight….it’s getting stupid. i’m glad people like chuck are calling him out, maybe if the chorus gets loud enough we’ll actually see fedor fight somebody worth fighting.

Chuck Liddell should beat someone competent before talking negatively about Fedor…

i’m sorry but i know everyone is going to yell at me for saying all of pride are over-rated but so is alot of the ufc fighters. like all the heavywieghts are. alot of the lightwieghts and the light heavywieghts.i’m not going to single anyone out. so i’ll leave it at that.

Additionally, Fedor may be “overrated” but he’s still better than anybody else. He may have turned down Jeff Monson, but that’s because Matt Lindland would have spouted loads of trash talk out of his mouth if Fedor denied him, and that would have been much worse for him publicly. Personally, the only person Fedor has anything left to prove to is Josh Barnett. Even Randy Couture, as “big” a fight as that would be, is out-classed by Fedor in every single aspect of MMA. Striking would result in a prompt stoppage in Fedor’s favor, Grappling/Clinch would result in a throw-to GnP-to armbar, and the same for any match where Fedor ends up on the bottom. Randy Couture doesn’t just lack power, he lacks the style and ability to submit or KO Fedor. He might be able to blanket a decisioon, but the chances of him getting armbarred from the bottom for 5 rounds is pretty high. HE is the overrated one. He hasn’t really beaten anybody except for Sylvia. But like I said, Josh Barnett deserves a chance and with his submission skill, he’s the only one that stands a chance.

Fedor fought Lindland because Couture turned down the opportunity.I like Chuck but he is out of line with his statement.I will say that Chuck would be a good match-up with Fedor.

why the hell do fighters even talk about Fedor? Fedor has never ever talked down about another fighter, he only says good things about everybody and has tons of respect for anyone that fights. He doesn’t claim to be the greatest ever, doesn’t say he would destroy everybody. Leave the man alone, all that he wants to do is compete and he leaves it at that.

fedor’s weak! not a chuck fan but i do believe the iceman would maul fedor. fedor is a side show circus fighting nobodies trying to protect his record.as long as he’s been fighting, if he aint lost, he not fighting the right people. i say let kimbo or lesnar throw down with fedor.

if i went down to the local elementary school and started dusting fifth graders would that make me the toughest guy on the block? NO! it mean i’d be beating up on lesser oppents=fedor! thank you drive through please!

Fedor obviously is overrated. The only ppl who don’t think so are his BLIND devotded nuthuggers. I’m not saying he’s sh*t. He just fights ppl who are. If he wants to be known as one of the best you have to fight the best..not middleweights and circus freaks.

twiazted203@hotmail.com

bro… he can fight at 205, that don’t mean he is a 205er….he’s a natural 185er, Horn looks like a fat as when he fights at 205, horn fought at 205 because that is where the bigger money fights were (well that and he was probably being to lazy to cut weight) not because it was the natural fighting weight for him…. Sakuraba fought a bunch of heavyweight fighters, that doesn’t make him a heavyweight….same with Lindland fighting at 205 and heavyweight….

[quote comment=”381586″]WOW!!!! Everyone who is all on the Chuck bandwagon should shut the f*** up!!!

Page, who we all know will DESTROY Chuck 8 out of 10 times, constantly says (in his opinion) that the two best P4P fighters are Fedor and BJ.

Look at UFC’s HW champion. I love him! But he got COMPLETELY OWNED TWICE by Fedor. Fedor would DEMOLISH anyone the UFC has to offer.

END OF THREAD[/quote]

Thank You! somebody gets it! No man in mma can beat Fedor. Put it to you this way, he would be the heavy favorite against any heavyweight on the planet…FACT!

I agree with Chuck. I’ve read Chuck’s new book and I was surprised to find how integral he was to the Fertittas and DW in the beginning. He was even present when the Fertitta brothers and Dana first tried jujitsu (sp? - I’m having a mental block wrt the proper spelling). It’s almost like he was an original partner. I can see now why he has such a lucrative contract.

[quote comment=”381537″]I really want to see chuck move up to heavyweight. He has been running his mouth about it for a long time now and I am sick of hearing it, and sick of hearing him talk trash about heavyweighth when he is just hiding behind the fact that the UFC doesnt do mismatch fights.

I wouuld love to see Chuck get the snot beat out of him by Fedor.
Chuck cant beat any tru heavyweights. He cant beat:
Fedor
Nogueira
Barnett
Gonzaga
Arlovski
Brock Lesnar would even kill him
he cant beat Tim Sylvia.

So he should stop running his mouth about heavyweights, since he cant even beat the Light heavyweight champion of the world.

You got to be a real hater no to appreciate Fedor’s skills.

What does chuck no? He still thinks Fedor shoots for takedowns, he sounds like an idiot. all fedor’s takedowns come from body locks…. Chuck, you want to talk trash about people that arent in your division….move up in weight and prove it.
Drink 2 extra beers a day, in addition to whatevcer you drink already, and you will be a heavyweight in 2 weeks![/quote]
I afraid that for the most part, I agree with Chuck, but I also agree with you. I agree with what Chuck says, but I do agree with you that Chuck shouldn’t be the fighter talking crap, he has never tried, nor will he try at HW

Wasn’t the fight with Lindland supposed to be with Couture but he turned it down?

Chuck is continuing Dana’s propaganda