It’s The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 7 video mania below. Believe it or not but we’re less than two weeks away from the series debut on SpikeTV on April 2 at 10 p.m. ET.

Enjoy:

More great clips after the jump.

TUF 7 promo trailer:

(Thanks to BloodyElbow.com for the assist.)

March 20th, 2008    

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Comment by john
2008-03-20 08:18:27

Rampage is absolutely right. Foorest has never faced anyone like him. The only person he faced in the UFC with any KO power was Jardine, and he got KO’ed in that fight. Rampage is 10 times more technical and has way too much KO power for Forrest to handle. Forrest gets hit too much when he fights, against Rampage he is going to get KO, really bad!

 
Comment by john
2008-03-20 08:25:15

Ben Saunders will also be fighting at UFC 86.

 
Comment by chefdaddy
2008-03-20 08:30:06

Have to agree with you John. Rampage has that brute force mixed with aggresiveness and skill that’s simply next to impossible to prepare for. Forrest should reconsider standing and banging with him. On the other hand, Forrest won’t train for Rampage like he did for Jardine. Griffin also has the intangibles that don’t translate onto a stat sheet (heart, drive, general tough S.O.B.). I think Rampage will win by ref stoppage late 2nd or early 3rd round, but I love both fighters and look forward to the physical fight in the ring as much as their comedic barbs on the show!

 
Comment by ChainLink
2008-03-20 08:40:20

“Type of guy who wipes his butt and doesn’t get it all.”

I’m gonna have to use that one!

 
Comment by Anonymousf*ck
2008-03-20 08:43:40

This is d sh*t right here..I’m loving it.

 
Comment by twizted203
2008-03-20 08:49:27

You know im a big griffin and rampage and i have my prediction on griffin. but from our persperctive and opinions i have to agree on what rampage says….but to be honest i think that is a very dumb thing to say out in public like that….it give you a feeling of underestimation…..i want you guys to look at Quinton’s face when he was watching griffin take out Rua! i have not seen him that serious looking in a while….i didnt know what was wrong with him at first but then griffin pulled off that choke i realized what he was looking into. plus it got to float in your mind that this guy beat a mean that demolished youa couple years back…that has to float ina lot of fighters mind when they see something like that…and if it wasnt for those facts i bet rampage would win this 4th round tko…buti think griffin will get the 4th round tko or decision…call me crazy but i called the submission victory over rua and jardine out pointing lidell. just my gut intinct.

 
Comment by kama kaze
2008-03-20 08:49:47

fricken hilarious interviews!! but, i hope the fighters they bring on are game. season 2 and 6 fighters were kind of weak in my opinion.

 
Comment by twizted203
2008-03-20 08:51:45

oh by the way i was watching rampage on the spanish channel the other nite on univision about some vegas hot spots and they talked to jackson there…and he speaks spanish pretty decently like ken flo on that show….but he said him and forrest had alot of beef and head butting during TUF 7!

 
Comment by Automation
2008-03-20 08:55:10

WORD!!! as you guys would say lol.

Forrest ain’t going to know what hit him until the following week.

I like Forrest but think he is biting off too much than he can chew.

 
Comment by Nick J
2008-03-20 08:55:56

This is one bad match up for Forrest. As earlier posters have stated he just gets caught too much by whoever he is fighting.

Forrest is going to walk chin first into a world of punishment at the hands of Rampage. I almost feel sorry for him already.

Don’t think that Rampage is bothered that Forrest beat Shogun, that was not the ‘pride’ Shogun that night, call it nerves, lack of roids or whatever. But an idiot can watch that fight and know that something was up.

 
Comment by Fidel Cashflow
2008-03-20 08:55:59

I can’t wait to see those two fight. Should be a win for rampage but a good fight from forrest.

 
Comment by ViolentMike
2008-03-20 08:59:54

These videos don’t play for me. Mania, can you post the source link please???

Also, like I’ve said about 100 times - Rampage is too much for Forrest to handle. Forrest WILL LOSE by KO or TKO. I see it no other way.

 
Comment by Automation
2008-03-20 09:00:00

[quote comment=”376665″]You know im a big griffin and rampage and i have my prediction on griffin. but from our persperctive and opinions i have to agree on what rampage says….but to be honest i think that is a very dumb thing to say out in public like that….it give you a feeling of underestimation…..i want you guys to look at Quinton’s face when he was watching griffin take out Rua! i have not seen him that serious looking in a while….i didnt know what was wrong with him at first but then griffin pulled off that choke i realized what he was looking into. plus it got to float in your mind that this guy beat a mean that demolished youa couple years back…that has to float ina lot of fighters mind when they see something like that…and if it wasnt for those facts i bet rampage would win this 4th round tko…buti think griffin will get the 4th round tko or decision…call me crazy but i called the submission victory over rua and jardine out pointing lidell. just my gut intinct.[/quote]

You are now offically named “Crazy” like you suggested lol

Comment by vise
2008-04-29 19:06:22

thats because he wanted revenge if shogun had won thatfightit would have been shogun vs rampage by thattime shogun would have been in good shape,shogun didnt take forrest serious and u cant train properly if your’ll injured/hurt just bad timing that why his face had that on it he was pissed, could have been an bigger fight for him in shogun, megafight

 
 
Comment by RobH86
2008-03-20 09:04:27

Love that bit about ‘Forrest’s boys’ going to pick up the belt. If Forrest nicked that belt from Rampage my advice would be ‘Run Forrest run.’

 
Comment by PHIANSOURI
2008-03-20 09:13:53

regardless the out come still gonna be a good fight

 
Comment by alexguy
2008-03-20 09:16:15

I know rampage is a much better fighter than forrest and I want him to keep the belt but ive been getting the feeling hes getting wrapped up in the fame like chuck did. Except rampage isnt getting wasted all the time. I get a feeling forrest is more focused and hungry for this fight.

 
Comment by UKmmaBOY
2008-03-20 09:17:14

Rampage is THE FUNNIEST mo-fo in the UFC period.

 
Comment by vin
2008-03-20 09:22:04

I feel an upset on this one… just my opinion. I know Rampage has the more experience and skillset to win, but I guess we’ll just see. If Rampage wins and and Wandy beats Jardine, they to fight again in the octagon. I wanna see if Wandy has his number or not.

 
Comment by Toms Bombs
2008-03-20 09:30:13

Rampage SMASH!!

 
Comment by CBfighter
2008-03-20 09:32:07

when it comes to fighting i think rampage might win, but i’m a huge forrest fan so i hope forrest wins. and yes rampage hits hard, but i think if forrest stops blocking punches with his head, he could win. as far as TUF coaches go, i think forrest will be better.

go team “win me a new car”!!!!!!!

 
Comment by Phil Baloni
2008-03-20 09:32:10

[quote comment=”376650″]”Type of guy who wipes his butt and doesn’t get it all.”[/quote]

hahaha!

 
Comment by Spawn
2008-03-20 09:41:30

Forrest thrives on being the underdog and seems to capitalize on the overconfidence of his opponent. I’m not saying he’ll win.

But this is definitely gonna be closer-than-everyone-thinks fight because of the “underdog” and “overconfidence” intangibles IMO.

 
Comment by ToeLock
2008-03-20 09:56:51

Ahhhhhhh why did i leave my headphones at home today!!!!

 
Comment by Raze
2008-03-20 10:00:21

[quote comment=”376634″]Have to agree with you John. Rampage has that brute force mixed with aggresiveness and skill that’s simply next to impossible to prepare for. Forrest should reconsider standing and banging with him. On the other hand, Forrest won’t train for Rampage like he did for Jardine. Griffin also has the intangibles that don’t translate onto a stat sheet (heart, drive, general tough S.O.B.). I think Rampage will win by ref stoppage late 2nd or early 3rd round, but I love both fighters and look forward to the physical fight in the ring as much as their comedic barbs on the show![/quote]

Wanderlei and Shogun both prepared and Knocked him the F.. out!!
so there goes all your NOSTRADAMUS-NESS

 
Comment by ToeLock
2008-03-20 10:01:48

[quote comment=”376666″]fricken hilarious interviews!! but, i hope the fighters they bring on are game. season 2 and 6 fighters were kind of weak in my opinion.[/quote]
and season 3 in mine!!

Best seasons for me are 1 and 5, I can’t see how this season will be bad though…so many fighters entering there has to be some gems there

 
Comment by ToeLock
2008-03-20 10:03:49

[quote comment=”376720″]Rampage is THE FUNNIEST mo-fo in the UFC period.[/quote]
Indeed he is….

For me, one good thing that may come about IF Page loses (I know I know but it is possible).. Is that I’m sure we will see a Page Vs Shogun in the UFC as they will both have loses to Forrest…It could actually be a good situation for fans.

 
Comment by chefdaddy
2008-03-20 10:07:28

[quote comment=”376802″][quote comment=”376634″]Have to agree with you John. Rampage has that brute force mixed with aggresiveness and skill that’s simply next to impossible to prepare for. Forrest should reconsider standing and banging with him. On the other hand, Forrest won’t train for Rampage like he did for Jardine. Griffin also has the intangibles that don’t translate onto a stat sheet (heart, drive, general tough S.O.B.). I think Rampage will win by ref stoppage late 2nd or early 3rd round, but I love both fighters and look forward to the physical fight in the ring as much as their comedic barbs on the show![/quote]

Wanderlei and Shogun both prepared and Knocked him the F.. out!!
so there goes all your NOSTRADAMUS-NESS[/quote]
Who p*$$ed in your corn flakes this morning?

 
Comment by john
2008-03-20 10:08:30

The more I think about it, Forrest is really going to get crushed! I think Jardine would have made a match up against Rampage a lot more competitive than Forrest will. No, I dont think Jardine would win, but Jardine is the smarter fighter, Forrest just gets hit way too much, to have any shot at beating SLAMEpage!

Everyone likes to say that Forrest isn’t in a fight until he gets hit. The problem with that is, getting hit 1 time by Rampage = Forrest in La La Land! KO/TKO Rampage in round 1, or round 2 at the latest.

 
Comment by Sephora MMA fans
2008-03-20 10:37:41

has Rampage ever fought anyone like Forrest? He’s one of a kind.

 
Comment by SeeRed
2008-03-20 10:57:26

[quote comment=”376815″]The more I think about it, Forrest is really going to get crushed! I think Jardine would have made a match up against Rampage a lot more competitive than Forrest will. No, I dont think Jardine would win, but Jardine is the smarter fighter, Forrest just gets hit way too much, to have any shot at beating SLAMEpage!

Everyone likes to say that Forrest isn’t in a fight until he gets hit. The problem with that is, getting hit 1 time by Rampage = Forrest in La La Land! KO/TKO Rampage in round 1, or round 2 at the latest.[/quote]
I might have agreed with this a year ago, but after watching Forrest beat Shogun I’m not so sure. I do agree he can’t afford to get hit so many times by Rampage, and Shogun did seriously gas in that fight, but Forrest fought a very smart fight. I’m not sure he can take the belt from ‘Page, but I’m not ready to count him out yet.

 
Comment by SeeRed
2008-03-20 11:02:19

I like “Team Win Me a New Car”. Too funny.

 
Comment by KS
2008-03-20 11:08:47

I’m willing to bet he was running his mouth the same way before Silva & Rua. He’s got a sense of humor, but often just comes off sounding like a cocky asshole.
Like Silva, he was given the gift of a title shot after one fight in the UFC.

 
Comment by Automation
2008-03-20 11:10:08

[quote post=”5409″]I might have agreed with this a year ago, but after watching Forrest beat Shogun I’m not so sure. I do agree he can’t afford to get hit so many times by Rampage, and Shogun did seriously gas in that fight, but Forrest fought a very smart fight. I’m not sure he can take the belt from “Page, but I’m not ready to count him out yet. [/quote]

I think people’s judgement gets clouded, when it comes to Forrest, because he is such a funny and likeable character.

However, his technical ability is way behind the rest. He certainly isn’t top 5, maybe and just maybe he is top 10.

Forrest seriously needs to work on not using his head as defence.

I love Forrest but we need to be real.

Rampage round 1 KO
or
round 5 decision if Dana insists on a show (Forrest and Bonnar 1) lol

 
Comment by ToeLock
2008-03-20 11:16:03

[quote comment=”376913″][quote post=”5409″]I might have agreed with this a year ago, but after watching Forrest beat Shogun I’m not so sure. I do agree he can’t afford to get hit so many times by Rampage, and Shogun did seriously gas in that fight, but Forrest fought a very smart fight. I’m not sure he can take the belt from “Page, but I’m not ready to count him out yet. [/quote]

I think people’s judgement gets clouded, when it comes to Forrest, because he is such a funny and likeable character.

However, his technical ability is way behind the rest. He certainly isn’t top 5, maybe and just maybe he is top 10.

Forrest seriously needs to work on not using his head as defence.

I love Forrest but we need to be real.

Rampage round 1 KO
or
round 5 decision if Dana insists on a show (Forrest and Bonnar 1) lol[/quote]
Come on…Not even top 10? name me 10 fighter better than Forrest in LHW? There is a case for not top 5.

 
Comment by Automation
2008-03-20 11:16:12

[quote comment=”376910″]I’m willing to bet he was running his mouth the same way before Silva & Rua. He’s got a sense of humor, but often just comes off sounding like a cocky asshole.
Like Silva, he was given the gift of a title shot after one fight in the UFC.[/quote]

WOW…..Silva got a title shot and I missed it :( lol

Comment by vise
2008-04-29 18:52:24

me 2 when , could have he had beaten chuck ,but look at what happen to jardine he beat chuck , now he has to beats wandy to get one , forrest only beat one guy
50% shogun is that fair

 
 
Comment by SeeRed
2008-03-20 11:22:47

So how many folks out there think the Forrest-Shogun fight was a fluke? Shogun has been rated the #2 LHW on more than one list, yet he didn’t get it done.

 
Comment by ToeLock
2008-03-20 11:24:06

are these guys better than forrest???

Chuck
Wandi
QRJ
Machida
Thiago Silva
Jardine??
Tim Boetsch (Maybe, but still has to prove himself in UFC)

Can’t think of anyone else…so I’d say he is deffo top 10

 
Comment by jimmy_dean
2008-03-20 11:29:29

[quote comment=”376802″][quote comment=”376634″]Have to agree with you John. Rampage has that brute force mixed with aggresiveness and skill that’s simply next to impossible to prepare for. Forrest should reconsider standing and banging with him. On the other hand, Forrest won’t train for Rampage like he did for Jardine. Griffin also has the intangibles that don’t translate onto a stat sheet (heart, drive, general tough S.O.B.). I think Rampage will win by ref stoppage late 2nd or early 3rd round, but I love both fighters and look forward to the physical fight in the ring as much as their comedic barbs on the show![/quote]

Wanderlei and Shogun both prepared and Knocked him the F.. out!!
so there goes all your NOSTRADAMUS-NESS[/quote]
In case you haven’t noticed this is a new and improved Rampage and IMO he fights much better in a cage. I’m one of The Biggest Wanderlei Silva Fans you’ll meet but do I think that Wandi can knock Rampage out a third time, HELL NO!

 
Comment by c-war
2008-03-20 11:30:58

Didnt Forrest beat Shogun who gave Page a beat down?

 
Comment by jimmy_dean
2008-03-20 11:40:05

[quote comment=”376955″]So how many folks out there think the Forrest-Shogun fight was a fluke? Shogun has been rated the #2 LHW on more than one list, yet he didn’t get it done.[/quote]
I don’t think it was fluke, I think that clearly Shogun was juicing in Pride and that is why he gased the way he did. People on steroids don’t have to train as hard or as much as all natural people and in this case I don’t think Shogun trained as hard as he should have. When you get off the juice you have to push your self twice as hard to get the edge that you had on it.

 
Comment by ToeLock
2008-03-20 11:40:05

[quote comment=”376977″]Didnt Forrest beat Shogun who gave Page a beat down?[/quote]
Man that’s a whole can of worms you’ve gone and opened there….yes and yes with a big BUT…

Comment by vise
2008-04-29 18:46:40

not so his left rib got broken, least he didn’t verbal
submit/tap like other bitches

 
 
Comment by ToeLock
2008-03-20 11:42:40

[quote comment=”376977″]Didnt Forrest beat Shogun who gave Page a beat down?[/quote]
Now you’re gonna ear stories of PRIDE and juicing, Page being better now, new camp etc etc…Shogun’s first UFC fight and blah blah blah the list goes on…It’s similar to the Chuck/Wandi/Page scenario…

Although I’m not 100% convinced that Liddell would beat Wandi 2 times in a row, were they to fight again…but that’s another story and I don’t have the typing speed or skill to go into it…Maybe john can comment :)

 
Comment by ToeLock
2008-03-20 11:44:04

HEAR stories…. not ear

 
Comment by bnf
2008-03-20 11:50:06

[quote comment=”376977″]Didnt Forrest beat Shogun who gave Page a beat down?[/quote]

Now here come all the haters… But, Shogun was hurt. He couldn’t train properly. Blah Blah Blah.

 
Comment by PW
2008-03-20 11:50:24

[quote comment=”377001″]HEAR stories…. not ear[/quote]
Isn’t that the way the Cockney English talk?

 
Comment by bnf
2008-03-20 12:03:19

Forrest is a tough dude with tons of heart. He trains with Randy, so he will have a great game plan. And he is coming off the biggest win of his life. I don’t understand how everybody thinks he is just going to get destroyed? If the odds reflect this thread I can’t wait to throw down some loot on Forrest!

 
Comment by ToeLock
2008-03-20 12:07:59

[quote comment=”377014″][quote comment=”377001″]HEAR stories…. not ear[/quote]
Isn’t that the way the Cockney English talk?[/quote]
Did you trace my IP address or something LOL

And for all those that don’t know….NO NO NOBODY talks like they do in that Film Snatch! Never have never will. Yes there is such a thing as rhyming slang but it is rarely if ever used, and NEVER to the extent which it is portrayed in films.

 
Comment by dave
2008-03-20 12:12:21

Forrest never gets destroyed, he has a talent of bringing people down to his brawl level, and as his skills go up, so will the wins.

That said, Quinton’s quote that Shogun’s never faced a fighter like him is sort of humourous, considering he submitted the same guy that completely destroyed page in Pride. True, Shogun and Quinton were definitely different in that fight, ie: Shogun throwing punches and Quinton was catching them.

 
Comment by john
2008-03-20 12:19:51

Am i the only one who wasn’t impressed with Forrest’s win over Shogun? Shogun gassed 2 minutes into that fight and he still won the 1st round. Shogun was half dead, walking around on one leg, and Forrest did not dominate.

If Shogun was completely gassed like that in front of Rampage, or even Liddell, they would have knocked his block off! No matter how great of a fighter you are (Shogun), when you are completely gassed and you are fighting a cardio machine (Forrest), you should get dominated. I was actually impressed by
how Shogun kept himself in the fight, being so gassed, and I was disapointed that Forrest didnt dominate the fight.

I have to say I am a very big Forrest Griffin fan. I appreciate how much heart he fights with, and have much respect for how he helped increase the popularity of the sport with his classic war at the TUF finale, but I am just trying to call it like I see it. As much as I love Forrest, he has not yet reached that elite level, that Rampage is on, and that s the reality. Besides Shogun, who is the best guy Forrest faced? Tito? Jardine? and he lost both of those fights!

Can you really compare that Resume with Rampage’s who has beaten, world class fighters like: Arona, Lindland, Henderson, Ninja, Igor, Liddell (twice), dong sik yoon, Bustamante? He even has wins in K-1!

Forrest has lost to Jardine, and Tito. Rampage’s losses were to Shogun (the PRIDE Shogun), and Wanderlei (twice), his other losses were to Eastman (in his 1st mma fight) and Sakuraba (in his 1st pride fight)

Unfortunatley, they are not on the same level, which will make this fight 1 sided. Expect a highlight KO or TKO from rampage, early!

 
Comment by b.w.
2008-03-20 12:42:33

[quote comment=”377061″]Am i the only one who wasn’t impressed with Forrest’s win over Shogun? Shogun gassed 2 minutes into that fight and he still won the 1st round. Shogun was half dead, walking around on one leg, and Forrest did not dominate.

If Shogun was completely gassed like that in front of Rampage, or even Liddell, they would have knocked his block off! No matter how great of a fighter you are (Shogun), when you are completely gassed and you are fighting a cardio machine (Forrest), you should get dominated. I was actually impressed by
how Shogun kept himself in the fight, being so gassed, and I was disapointed that Forrest didnt dominate the fight.

I have to say I am a very big Forrest Griffin fan. I appreciate how much heart he fights with, and have much respect for how he helped increase the popularity of the sport with his classic war at the TUF finale, but I am just trying to call it like I see it. As much as I love Forrest, he has not yet reached that elite level, that Rampage is on, and that s the reality. Besides Shogun, who is the best guy Forrest faced? Tito? Jardine? and he lost both of those fights!

Can you really compare that Resume with Rampage’s who has beaten, world class fighters like: Arona, Lindland, Henderson, Ninja, Igor, Liddell (twice), dong sik yoon, Bustamante? He even has wins in K-1!

Forrest has lost to Jardine, and Tito. Rampage’s losses were to Shogun (the PRIDE Shogun), and Wanderlei (twice), his other losses were to Eastman (in his 1st mma fight) and Sakuraba (in his 1st pride fight)

Unfortunatley, they are not on the same level, which will make this fight 1 sided. Expect a highlight KO or TKO from rampage, early![/quote]
at the time it was hard not to be very impressed w/ griffin over shogun. shogun was ranked #1 at lhw and top3 in the p4p by almost everyone. now with all things considered its not as huge as it was, but i dont think youre giving forrerst an ounce of credit in that fight at all. his only loss in the ufc is to jardine by tko. jardine rocked him then put him down and hit him w/ about 20 punches to the head and forrest still didnt go out, so i dont question his chin as much as some. forrest will be the bigger, stronger fighter so there wont be any arona type slams either. now theres no way to dismiss the talent level between the fighters. rampage is on another level. i still think forrest will give him the fight of his life for about 3rnds and rampage winning by stoppage in the 4rth. i wouldnt be shocked if it went the distance but would be if forrest won. but we all know the minute you thinka fighter cant be beat something funny tends to happen. eithr way i cant wait for it to happen and im looking forward too seeing them butt heads on tuf.

 
Comment by john
2008-03-20 12:48:47

[quote comment=”377000″][quote comment=”376977″]Didnt Forrest beat Shogun who gave Page a beat down?[/quote]
Now you’re gonna ear stories of PRIDE and juicing, Page being better now, new camp etc etc…Shogun’s first UFC fight and blah blah blah the list goes on…It’s similar to the Chuck/Wandi/Page scenario…

Although I’m not 100% convinced that Liddell would beat Wandi 2 times in a row, were they to fight again…but that’s another story and I don’t have the typing speed or skill to go into it…Maybe john can comment :)[/quote]

Wandy would beat Liddell IMO, if they werre to fight again. I actually think Wandy could have beaten chuck in there last fight. He had chuck dropped, but he just Froze, I think the nerves and the moment got to him and he Froze. If that were to happen again, or if it was in an atmosphere where he was comfortable like PRIDE, there is no question in my mind that wanderlei would have jumped on Chuck and finished that fight.

As for the JUICE theories….I thought we all agreed weeks ago to put those fact-less theories to the side. What does gassing have to do with roids? Last time I checked roids, helped build muscles, I wasnt aware that they helped improve lungs and cardio. Shogun gassed because he couldnt train properly due to an acl injury. You have heard of an acl injury right? You know the little problem athletes often have that has been said to be one of the worst injuries in sports?

I really have no respect for anyone that can sit here and argue that Forrest is on the same level as rampage. I am not even sure Forrest could get passed:
Tiago
Jardine
Machida
Liddell
Henderson
Wanderlei

let alone SlamPage!

The UFC is doing a big disservice to Forrest by throing him out there against Rampage when he is clearly not yet ready for it! Forrest has no KO power! Rampage has a phenominal chin! What can Forrest possibly do to him? Forrest must have punched Bonner in the face about 200 times in their 2 fights, and he didnt come close to dropping Bonner. If Rampage punched Bonner all those times, Bonner would be permanently punch drunk already! This is not a quality main event, it will be entertaining because it will be Physical and Rampage will provide us with another highlite, but its not exacly the match up of the year thats for sure.

I will compare this fight to GSP vs. hughes part 3. Rampage will play the role of GSP, completely dominating on his way to a quick and impressive win over Forrest Gump!

Keep in mind I am a big Forrest Griifin Fan, I am just trying to keep it real! thats all!

Comment by vise
2008-04-29 18:57:51

keep on its the truth

 
 
Comment by bnf
2008-03-20 13:07:28

[quote comment=”377061″]Am i the only one who wasn’t impressed with Forrest’s win over Shogun? Shogun gassed 2 minutes into that fight and he still won the 1st round. Shogun was half dead, walking around on one leg, and Forrest did not dominate.

If Shogun was completely gassed like that in front of Rampage, or even Liddell, they would have knocked his block off! No matter how great of a fighter you are (Shogun), when you are completely gassed and you are fighting a cardio machine (Forrest), you should get dominated. I was actually impressed by
how Shogun kept himself in the fight, being so gassed, and I was disapointed that Forrest didnt dominate the fight.

I have to say I am a very big Forrest Griffin fan. I appreciate how much heart he fights with, and have much respect for how he helped increase the popularity of the sport with his classic war at the TUF finale, but I am just trying to call it like I see it. As much as I love Forrest, he has not yet reached that elite level, that Rampage is on, and that s the reality. Besides Shogun, who is the best guy Forrest faced? Tito? Jardine? and he lost both of those fights!

Can you really compare that Resume with Rampage’s who has beaten, world class fighters like: Arona, Lindland, Henderson, Ninja, Igor, Liddell (twice), dong sik yoon, Bustamante? He even has wins in K-1!

Forrest has lost to Jardine, and Tito. Rampage’s losses were to Shogun (the PRIDE Shogun), and Wanderlei (twice), his other losses were to Eastman (in his 1st mma fight) and Sakuraba (in his 1st pride fight)

Unfortunatley, they are not on the same level, which will make this fight 1 sided. Expect a highlight KO or TKO from rampage, early![/quote]

Why do you make excuses everytime you talk about the Forrest Shogun fight? Forrest was hurt too! Not to mention you could almost see his skull during the fight. So I was very impressed with his preformance.

Rampage has a nice resume. What does that even have to do with this fight anyways? You are only as good as your last win. Forrest is a huge LHW and Rampage barley beat the smallest LHW there is.

And did Forrest really lose to Tito? I also think that Jardine loss was the best thing that could have ever happend to him. There is no way he will stand there and be Rampage’s punching bag. I expect Forrest to pick him apart with his reach until Rampage gets frustrated and does something stupid, then nighty night!

 
Comment by blah
2008-03-20 13:33:26

[quote comment=”377101″][quote comment=”377000″][quote comment=”376977″]Didnt Forrest beat Shogun who gave Page a beat down?[/quote]
Now you’re gonna ear stories of PRIDE and juicing, Page being better now, new camp etc etc…Shogun’s first UFC fight and blah blah blah the list goes on…It’s similar to the Chuck/Wandi/Page scenario…

Although I’m not 100% convinced that Liddell would beat Wandi 2 times in a row, were they to fight again…but that’s another story and I don’t have the typing speed or skill to go into it…Maybe john can comment :)[/quote]

Wandy would beat Liddell IMO, if they werre to fight again. I actually think Wandy could have beaten chuck in there last fight. He had chuck dropped, but he just Froze, I think the nerves and the moment got to him and he Froze. If that were to happen again, or if it was in an atmosphere where he was comfortable like PRIDE, there is no question in my mind that wanderlei would have jumped on Chuck and finished that fight.

As for the JUICE theories….I thought we all agreed weeks ago to put those fact-less theories to the side. What does gassing have to do with roids? Last time I checked roids, helped build muscles, I wasnt aware that they helped improve lungs and cardio. Shogun gassed because he couldnt train properly due to an acl injury. You have heard of an acl injury right? You know the little problem athletes often have that has been said to be one of the worst injuries in sports?

I really have no respect for anyone that can sit here and argue that Forrest is on the same level as rampage. I am not even sure Forrest could get passed:
Tiago
Jardine
Machida
Liddell
Henderson
Wanderlei

let alone SlamPage!

The UFC is doing a big disservice to Forrest by throing him out there against Rampage when he is clearly not yet ready for it! Forrest has no KO power! Rampage has a phenominal chin! What can Forrest possibly do to him? Forrest must have punched Bonner in the face about 200 times in their 2 fights, and he didnt come close to dropping Bonner. If Rampage punched Bonner all those times, Bonner would be permanently punch drunk already! This is not a quality main event, it will be entertaining because it will be Physical and Rampage will provide us with another highlite, but its not exacly the match up of the year thats for sure.

I will compare this fight to GSP vs. hughes part 3. Rampage will play the role of GSP, completely dominating on his way to a quick and impressive win over Forrest Gump!

Keep in mind I am a big Forrest Griifin Fan, I am just trying to keep it real! thats all![/quote]

- i completely agree with you on this one john!

 
Comment by ToeLock
2008-03-20 13:47:18

[quote comment=”377101″][quote comment=”377000″][quote comment=”376977″]Didnt Forrest beat Shogun who gave Page a beat down?[/quote]
Now you’re gonna ear stories of PRIDE and juicing, Page being better now, new camp etc etc…Shogun’s first UFC fight and blah blah blah the list goes on…It’s similar to the Chuck/Wandi/Page scenario…

Although I’m not 100% convinced that Liddell would beat Wandi 2 times in a row, were they to fight again…but that’s another story and I don’t have the typing speed or skill to go into it…Maybe john can comment :)[/quote]

Wandy would beat Liddell IMO, if they werre to fight again. I actually think Wandy could have beaten chuck in there last fight. He had chuck dropped, but he just Froze, I think the nerves and the moment got to him and he Froze. If that were to happen again, or if it was in an atmosphere where he was comfortable like PRIDE, there is no question in my mind that wanderlei would have jumped on Chuck and finished that fight.

As for the JUICE theories….I thought we all agreed weeks ago to put those fact-less theories to the side. What does gassing have to do with roids? Last time I checked roids, helped build muscles, I wasnt aware that they helped improve lungs and cardio. Shogun gassed because he couldnt train properly due to an acl injury. You have heard of an acl injury right? You know the little problem athletes often have that has been said to be one of the worst injuries in sports?

I really have no respect for anyone that can sit here and argue that Forrest is on the same level as rampage. I am not even sure Forrest could get passed:
Tiago
Jardine
Machida
Liddell
Henderson
Wanderlei

let alone SlamPage!

The UFC is doing a big disservice to Forrest by throing him out there against Rampage when he is clearly not yet ready for it! Forrest has no KO power! Rampage has a phenominal chin! What can Forrest possibly do to him? Forrest must have punched Bonner in the face about 200 times in their 2 fights, and he didnt come close to dropping Bonner. If Rampage punched Bonner all those times, Bonner would be permanently punch drunk already! This is not a quality main event, it will be entertaining because it will be Physical and Rampage will provide us with another highlite, but its not exacly the match up of the year thats for sure.

I will compare this fight to GSP vs. hughes part 3. Rampage will play the role of GSP, completely dominating on his way to a quick and impressive win over Forrest Gump!

Keep in mind I am a big Forrest Griifin Fan, I am just trying to keep it real! thats all![/quote]
Yeh dude i wasn’t bringing up the Juice thing per say, I was just saying what other people would talk about in comment to his question. I confess I know jack about roids or their effects so would never claim the JUICE theory, that anyway is something i only picked up on this site as I never even knew the PRIDE guys never got tested until i saw it on here.

Totally agree with the Wandi thing, he just didn’t look the same to me (As in PRIDE) I felt even before the fight that Chuck wasn’t a good first fight (BACK) in the UFC for him (Or anyone) and If Jardine beats him I’ll eat my own balls! Because there is NO WAY!!!

I’m still not convinced that Page will walk over Forrest, the way you put it certainly does seem that will be the case, I’m just a believer that with 5 ounce gloves, anyone can knock anyone out! So I see Page being a bit cautious to start off with…

Page K.O. or tko in Rd3

 
Comment by ToeLock
2008-03-20 13:48:16

[quote post=”5409″]Forrest must have punched Bonner in the face about 200 times in their 2 fights, and he didnt come close to dropping Bonner. If Rampage punched Bonner all those times, Bonner would be permanently punch drunk already![/quote]
TOO Funny!

I agree too, not the greatest main event, but we may yet be suprised!

 
Comment by ToeLock
2008-03-20 13:53:47

LMAO to forrest and Team “Win me a new car”

after seeing him on All Access that is one dude who NEEDS anew ride man!

 
Comment by Sean F.
2008-03-20 14:09:45

[quote comment=”377101″]
As for the JUICE theories….I thought we all agreed weeks ago to put those fact-less theories to the side. What does gassing have to do with roids? Last time I checked roids, helped build muscles, I wasnt aware that they helped improve lungs and cardio.
[/quote]

The word cardio is a medical reference referring to the heart (from Greek kardia: heart). The heart is a muscle, and it can certainly be effected by anabolics. What I believe you meant to write is stamina.

Since you weren’t aware, I’ll confirm for you that certain (if not MOST) anabolic steroids will increase a user’s stamina immensely. To do so, the lungs do not have to be involved. By preventing muscle fatigue, stamina is increased.

Some people talk or write about “steroids” as if there is only one kind. There are MANY different types of anabolic steroids, and they do different things to your body. For example, stanozolol (commonly known as Winstrol) can increase a persons endurance to previously unreachable levels. Of course, it does other things to the body as well (such as strength increases without excess weight-gain, promoting increases in vascularity, etc.) but endurance is a big reason that it was a favorite of runners. To bulk up, however, stanazolol wouldn’t be a top choice. Nandrolone (Sean Sherk tested positive for this drug) is known for producing quality weight gains (a/k/a muscle growth) without many negative side effects. There are dozens, if not hundreds, of different types of anabolic steroids, and most have different effects on the human body. MOST increase a humans strength, as well as endurance

 
Comment by Automation
2008-03-20 14:21:06

[quote comment=”376958″]are these guys better than forrest???

Chuck
Wandi
QRJ
Machida
Thiago Silva
Jardine??
Tim Boetsch (Maybe, but still has to prove himself in UFC)

Can’t think of anyone else…so I’d say he is deffo top 10[/quote]

Sorry Toelock, I went out.

OK I’d say: -

Jardine (Because he beat Forrest)
Houston (More by default because he beat Jardine right after)
Tito (Because he beat Forrest)
Rua (Even though he lost…..Rua would win 8 out of 10 times)

Then there is the obvious top 5 in no particular order

Liddell
Rampage
Wanderlei
Thiago
Machida

I could throw a couple of more names but I’ll give Forrest props over them.

That places Forrest at 10 best….IMO

 
Comment by ToeLock
2008-03-20 14:31:14

[quote comment=”377234″][quote comment=”376958″]are these guys better than forrest???

Chuck
Wandi
QRJ
Machida
Thiago Silva
Jardine??
Tim Boetsch (Maybe, but still has to prove himself in UFC)

Can’t think of anyone else…so I’d say he is deffo top 10[/quote]

Sorry Toelock, I went out.

OK I’d say: -

Jardine (Because he beat Forrest)
Houston (More by default because he beat Jardine right after)
Tito (Because he beat Forrest)
Rua (Even though he lost…..Rua would win 8 out of 10 times)

Then there is the obvious top 5 in no particular order

Liddell
Rampage
Wanderlei
Thiago
Machida

I could throw a couple of more names but I’ll give Forrest props over them.

That places Forrest at 10 best….IMO[/quote]
No worries dude.

I was gonna suggest Tito but as most pple have him outside the top 10 I left it out as then by default forrest wouldn’t be (If that makes sense)

I was thinking Houston too but I don’t know enough about his overall game, looking forward to his next fight night tho to find out!

And Rua I left out for obvious reasons, but again, I think we need to see him 1 or 2 more times in the Octagon before any of us can place a fair assesment of him!

Sweet, Happy Easter everyone, I’m going to stick two large round objects in my mouth now…No you sick F***ers Easter eggs!!!

 
Comment by Automation
2008-03-20 14:37:25

Sorry forgot about Hendo too

 
Comment by b.w.
2008-03-20 14:42:01

[quote comment=”377201″]LMAO to forrest and Team “Win me a new car”

after seeing him on All Access that is one dude who NEEDS anew ride man![/quote]
didnt forrest win a new car at the first tuf finale. i think it was a hummer right?

 
Comment by HAWAII
2008-03-20 15:03:07

huge fan of forrest griffin!!! do not underestimate griffin cause he always comes out to scrap!he is the underdog but in mma this is the sport made for underdogs!!!my predition for this fight is a damn good scrap and griffin will win in the fourth round via rearnaked choke!!!and the new LHW champion of the world FORRESSSTTT GGRRRRIFFFIINNN!!!!! MARK MY WORDS FELLOWS

 
Comment by ViolentMike
2008-03-20 15:16:01

[quote post=”5409″]There is no way he will stand there and be Rampage’s punching bag. I expect Forrest to pick him apart with his reach until Rampage gets frustrated and does something stupid, then nighty night! [/quote]

Nighty Night? Forrest can’t KO anybody. He has a TKO win over the King of Rock n Rumble Elvis Sinosic. Michael Freaking Bisping has 10 times more KO power than Forrest. Bisping was KO’ing fools left and right on TUF.

I BETTER NOT GET BUMBED OFF OF CBS SPORTS AGAIN FOR INACTIVITY!!!!!!!!

Griffin is a large LHW, but he does not have KO power. Rampage has one of the best chins. Did anyone not see the amount of punishment he has taken from the clinches of Wanderlei and Shogun? Most fighters would be dead, never mind UFC champion.

Rampage has eaten the hardest shot that Hendo can offer. Hendo hits harder than Forrest.

Forrest was KO’d by Keith Jardine. Rampage is stronger than Jardine.

I wish that I can take Rampage and Forrest and have them take turns. One person punches and the other stands there with their hands tied behind thier back until they fall to the ground. Forrest would be down to the ground after the first right hand that Rampage throws at him. Then it would be Forrest’s turn. Rampage would get so bored with getting pepper’d in the face that he break out into the Napoleon Dynomite dance, or stick out his “Chuck Belly”.

If you have an account at the time of this fight, BET YOUR ENTIRE BANKROLL ON RAMPAGE!!!!!!!!!!!! (I’ve been making some decent money on the early NCAA games!!!)

 
Comment by bnf
2008-03-20 15:23:09

[quote comment=”377243″][quote comment=”377234″][quote comment=”376958″]
Sweet, Happy Easter everyone, I’m going to stick two large round objects in my mouth now…No you sick F***ers Easter eggs!!![/quote]

Are you sure you aren’t talking about John’s nuts?

 
Comment by chipdog505
2008-03-20 15:32:21

I give this fight to forrest, i can’t stand rampage, he is such a fruit.

 
Comment by bnf
2008-03-20 15:39:40

[quote comment=”377311″][quote post=”5409″]There is no way he will stand there and be Rampage’s punching bag. I expect Forrest to pick him apart with his reach until Rampage gets frustrated and does something stupid, then nighty night! [/quote]

Nighty Night? Forrest can’t KO anybody. He has a TKO win over the King of Rock n Rumble Elvis Sinosic. Michael Freaking Bisping has 10 times more KO power than Forrest. Bisping was KO’ing fools left and right on TUF.

When did I say he would KO him smart guy!

 
Comment by ToeLock