Comments on: Brandon Vera contract dispute details revealed? http://mmamania.com/2008/03/18/brandon-vera-contract-dispute-details-revealed/ UFC news, event schedules, fight analysis, Octagon predictions, UFC fighters and MMA thoughts Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:40:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: THORAZINE http://mmamania.com/2008/03/18/brandon-vera-contract-dispute-details-revealed/#comment-374015 THORAZINE Wed, 19 Mar 2008 05:51:53 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/18/brandon-vera-contract-dispute-details-revealed/#comment-374015 Dana does not want to deal with managers, he'd rather offer the fighters small sums and have them keep 100% of it. Managers have very little to offer when negotiating with White. Dana does not want to deal with managers, he’d rather offer the fighters small sums and have them keep 100% of it. Managers have very little to offer when negotiating with White.

]]> By: kAiNOA PilAGO http://mmamania.com/2008/03/18/brandon-vera-contract-dispute-details-revealed/#comment-373778 kAiNOA PilAGO Wed, 19 Mar 2008 02:36:40 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/18/brandon-vera-contract-dispute-details-revealed/#comment-373778 excited for this fight. rooting for vera. would lyke to see him move down to 205 tho. excited for this fight. rooting for vera. would lyke to see him move down to 205 tho.

]]> By: Pat http://mmamania.com/2008/03/18/brandon-vera-contract-dispute-details-revealed/#comment-373717 Pat Wed, 19 Mar 2008 01:55:52 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/18/brandon-vera-contract-dispute-details-revealed/#comment-373717 [quote post="5385"]werdrum landed a huge knee from the clich at 80 which vera has to look out for, as well as anything on the ground....[/quote] Vera has to be on his toes the whole fight. Good thing that his best discipline is Muay Thai, and then BJJ. ;) Close fight though. Hard to pick a winner, but I'll take the biased pick and go Vera cuz I'm a fan. [quote post=”5385″]werdrum landed a huge knee from the clich at 80 which vera has to look out for, as well as anything on the ground….[/quote]

Vera has to be on his toes the whole fight. Good thing that his best discipline is Muay Thai, and then BJJ. ;)
Close fight though. Hard to pick a winner, but I’ll take the biased pick and go Vera cuz I’m a fan.

]]> By: The Anomaly http://mmamania.com/2008/03/18/brandon-vera-contract-dispute-details-revealed/#comment-373568 The Anomaly Tue, 18 Mar 2008 23:16:32 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/18/brandon-vera-contract-dispute-details-revealed/#comment-373568 GOD I just wanna see this dude back in action already!!! Most well rounded HW....Brandon Vera. If he could just improve what he is already good at (everything) we could have a real HW champ again. GOD I just wanna see this dude back in action already!!! Most well rounded HW….Brandon Vera. If he could just improve what he is already good at (everything) we could have a real HW champ again.

]]> By: James S http://mmamania.com/2008/03/18/brandon-vera-contract-dispute-details-revealed/#comment-373510 James S Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:35:32 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/18/brandon-vera-contract-dispute-details-revealed/#comment-373510 [quote comment="373266"]it looks like on the contract 6 fights the first one being 90 thousand plus 90 to win, if you add up all the numbers it is still not close to 4 million so he must get payed something on top of the fight money.[/quote] If you read the info on the link, it is actually two seperate fight contracts. The left side if a fight contract, and the right one is a four year, multiple fights a year, contract for 7 million. If he does 4 fights a year, its 16 fights for 7 million, but there were other stipulations. I thought the exact same thing when I first saw the post. [quote comment=”373266″]it looks like on the contract 6 fights the first one being 90 thousand plus 90 to win, if you add up all the numbers it is still not close to 4 million so he must get payed something on top of the fight money.[/quote]
If you read the info on the link, it is actually two seperate fight contracts. The left side if a fight contract, and the right one is a four year, multiple fights a year, contract for 7 million. If he does 4 fights a year, its 16 fights for 7 million, but there were other stipulations. I thought the exact same thing when I first saw the post.

]]> By: markg http://mmamania.com/2008/03/18/brandon-vera-contract-dispute-details-revealed/#comment-373441 markg Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:44:07 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/18/brandon-vera-contract-dispute-details-revealed/#comment-373441 [quote comment="373368"][quote comment="373221"][quote comment="373105"][quote comment="373101"]He's gonna kill Werdum!![/quote] NNot so sure about that. Werdum has improved a lot already since he started training with Chute Box. No body in the world thought he would beat Gonzaga via strikes. By June, I expect him to be even more improved. It will be a very competitive fight IMO, and it is so close that I am not ready to make any predictions on that fight yet![/quote] Well, I am ready to made a prediction for that fight. Fabricio Werdum!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote] Yeah I'm gonna have to go for Werdum on this one.[/quote] I'm hopin vera wins this one, but also thought gonzaga would take him out... werdrum landed a huge knee from the clich at 80 which vera has to look out for, as well as anything on the ground.... [quote comment=”373368″][quote comment=”373221″][quote comment=”373105″][quote comment=”373101″]He’s gonna kill Werdum!![/quote]

NNot so sure about that. Werdum has improved a lot already since he started training with Chute Box. No body in the world thought he would beat Gonzaga via strikes. By June, I expect him to be even more improved. It will be a very competitive fight IMO, and
it is so close that I am not ready to make any predictions on that fight yet![/quote]

Well, I am ready to made a prediction for that fight. Fabricio Werdum!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]
Yeah I’m gonna have to go for Werdum on this one.[/quote]

I’m hopin vera wins this one, but also thought gonzaga would take him out… werdrum landed a huge knee from the clich at 80 which vera has to look out for, as well as anything on the ground….

]]> By: Automation http://mmamania.com/2008/03/18/brandon-vera-contract-dispute-details-revealed/#comment-373409 Automation Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:10:23 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/18/brandon-vera-contract-dispute-details-revealed/#comment-373409 [quote comment="373134"][quote comment="373062"][quote comment="373053"]Dana White has been around the fight game for a long time. First with Boxing and now MMA. He knows how managers and promoters work. He also knows how to hold his ground. He'll risk losing a big name to keep the standard pay intact, because once you give in, you get into ridiculous amounts. I do believe a lot of fighters are under paid, but I also believe that alot of them are asking for way more than they're worth. An example being Tim Sylvia. He wants Brock Lesnar money. Here's how the negotiations would go, Tim, are you a better fighter than Lesnar? Yes. Have you paid your dues and been a loyal UFC fighter for a number of years? Yes. Do people buy a pay per view just to see you fight? NO!! That's why you're not getting Lesnar money. It stinks but it's business. I don't care how tough you are, if they can't market you, how are they supposed to pay you? Like him or not, Lesnar brought pay per view buys to make that UFC the third most watched in history. He was worth the money as far as business goes. Disapppointing, but profitable. And at the end of the day, it's always about the money you can make for them and not the money they can make for you.[/quote] Very Intelligent Post![/quote] I co-sign that.[/quote] What is funny is we had long debates in the previous 'Gary Shaw' thread about how Dana was doing things for the good of mma and not money. A further post that confirms it is all about the money. [quote comment=”373134″][quote comment=”373062″][quote comment=”373053″]Dana White has been around the fight game for a long time. First with Boxing and now MMA. He knows how managers and promoters work. He also knows how to hold his ground. He’ll risk losing a big name to keep the standard pay intact, because once you give in, you get into ridiculous amounts.

I do believe a lot of fighters are under paid, but I also believe that alot of them are asking for way more than they’re worth. An example being Tim Sylvia. He wants Brock Lesnar money. Here’s how the negotiations would go, Tim, are you a better fighter than Lesnar? Yes. Have you paid your dues and been a loyal UFC fighter for a number of years? Yes. Do people buy a pay per view just to see you fight? NO!! That’s why you’re not getting Lesnar money. It stinks but it’s business.

I don’t care how tough you are, if they can’t market you, how are they supposed to pay you? Like him or not, Lesnar brought pay per view buys to make that UFC the third most watched in history. He was worth the money as far as business goes. Disapppointing, but profitable.

And at the end of the day, it’s always about the money you can make for them and not the money they can make for you.[/quote]

Very Intelligent Post![/quote]

I co-sign that.[/quote]

What is funny is we had long debates in the previous ‘Gary Shaw’ thread about how Dana was doing things for the good of mma and not money.

A further post that confirms it is all about the money.

]]> By: Toms Bombs http://mmamania.com/2008/03/18/brandon-vera-contract-dispute-details-revealed/#comment-373368 Toms Bombs Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:49:21 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/18/brandon-vera-contract-dispute-details-revealed/#comment-373368 [quote comment="373221"][quote comment="373105"][quote comment="373101"]He's gonna kill Werdum!![/quote] NNot so sure about that. Werdum has improved a lot already since he started training with Chute Box. No body in the world thought he would beat Gonzaga via strikes. By June, I expect him to be even more improved. It will be a very competitive fight IMO, and it is so close that I am not ready to make any predictions on that fight yet![/quote] Well, I am ready to made a prediction for that fight. Fabricio Werdum!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote] Yeah I'm gonna have to go for Werdum on this one. [quote comment=”373221″][quote comment=”373105″][quote comment=”373101″]He’s gonna kill Werdum!![/quote]

NNot so sure about that. Werdum has improved a lot already since he started training with Chute Box. No body in the world thought he would beat Gonzaga via strikes. By June, I expect him to be even more improved. It will be a very competitive fight IMO, and
it is so close that I am not ready to make any predictions on that fight yet![/quote]

Well, I am ready to made a prediction for that fight. Fabricio Werdum!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]
Yeah I’m gonna have to go for Werdum on this one.

]]> By: PW http://mmamania.com/2008/03/18/brandon-vera-contract-dispute-details-revealed/#comment-373328 PW Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:21:13 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/18/brandon-vera-contract-dispute-details-revealed/#comment-373328 Some of these fighters need lessons in simple mathematics. If a fighter hires an agent to negotiate a $100,000 contract but has to pay said agent a third, the fighter is left with $66,667. If a fighter negotiates on his own and gets an $80,000 contract, he keeps all $80,000. The contract looks smaller, but his actual take-home is greater, and I think that's what they really want. Some of these fighters need lessons in simple mathematics. If a fighter hires an agent to negotiate a $100,000 contract but has to pay said agent a third, the fighter is left with $66,667. If a fighter negotiates on his own and gets an $80,000 contract, he keeps all $80,000. The contract looks smaller, but his actual take-home is greater, and I think that’s what they really want.

]]> By: Luppers http://mmamania.com/2008/03/18/brandon-vera-contract-dispute-details-revealed/#comment-373327 Luppers Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:19:50 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/18/brandon-vera-contract-dispute-details-revealed/#comment-373327 Am I the only one that thinks this guy is worth barely 40k a fight? Beating Mir in his overweight/gettingback/depression fight doesnt impress me. Am I the only one that thinks this guy is worth barely 40k a fight? Beating Mir in his overweight/gettingback/depression fight doesnt impress me.

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