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	<title>Comments on: Report: Spencer Fisher out, Jim Miller in vs. Marcus Aurelio at UFN 13</title>
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		<title>By: Marcus Aurelio vs. Ryan Roberts UFC Fight Night 13 bout confirmed at UFC blog for UFC news, results, videos, rumors, fights, pics and tickets &#8212; MMAmania.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus Aurelio vs. Ryan Roberts UFC Fight Night 13 bout confirmed at UFC blog for UFC news, results, videos, rumors, fights, pics and tickets &#8212; MMAmania.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ryan Roberts (8-2) &#8212; not Jim Miller as previously reported — will fill-in for the injured Spencer Fisher and fight Marcus Aurelio (15-5) at UFC Fight Night 13 at the Broomfield Event Center in Broomfield, Colo., on April 2, according to UFC.com. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Ryan Roberts (8-2) &#8212; not Jim Miller as previously reported — will fill-in for the injured Spencer Fisher and fight Marcus Aurelio (15-5) at UFC Fight Night 13 at the Broomfield Event Center in Broomfield, Colo., on April 2, according to UFC.com. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="373176"][quote comment="372868"]VM: I did some research last night on Memphis's 1st round game, and I think they have a great chance of covering the 25 point spread. Memphis lacks size, fortunatley so does their opponent.

Memphis will have trouble facing teams with big front lines. Luckily, Texas Arlington has oneo f the smallest starting line ups in the tournament. The size of the starting line up is:
5'11
6'2
6'4
6'5
6'9

Memphis starting line up:
6'3 (rose)
6'6
6'7
6'9
6'9

Basically what I am trying to say is that Memphis plays "small ball" and since they are facing another team that plays small ball, Memphis wont have to worry about being banged around by a big front line, so I am really starting to like Memphis covering the 25 pt spread.[/quote]

I just locked it in at -24.5

I've been putting a few bucks on a couple of NBA games a night and been doing pretty well.  Yesterday I had Hornets -4.5 vs Bulls, Pacers to beat Knicks, Magic -6.5 vs Cavs and I hit them all!!!!!

Tonight I just got the Celtics  4.5 vs Rockets and Under 202.5 for Bucks vs Heat.[/quote]

U better be easy, with that addictive personality of yours. I know because I am the same way. I love that unders pick on the heat/bucks game. Betting against the Rockets right now is a gutsy move, especially since the Celtics had a very hard fought game last night against the spurs. They had to come back from a big deficit in that game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment=&#8221;373176&#8243;][quote comment=&#8221;372868&#8243;]VM: I did some research last night on Memphis&#8217;s 1st round game, and I think they have a great chance of covering the 25 point spread. Memphis lacks size, fortunatley so does their opponent.</p>
<p>Memphis will have trouble facing teams with big front lines. Luckily, Texas Arlington has oneo f the smallest starting line ups in the tournament. The size of the starting line up is:<br />
5&#8242;11<br />
6&#8242;2<br />
6&#8242;4<br />
6&#8242;5<br />
6&#8242;9</p>
<p>Memphis starting line up:<br />
6&#8242;3 (rose)<br />
6&#8242;6<br />
6&#8242;7<br />
6&#8242;9<br />
6&#8242;9</p>
<p>Basically what I am trying to say is that Memphis plays &#8220;small ball&#8221; and since they are facing another team that plays small ball, Memphis wont have to worry about being banged around by a big front line, so I am really starting to like Memphis covering the 25 pt spread.[/quote]</p>
<p>I just locked it in at -24.5</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been putting a few bucks on a couple of NBA games a night and been doing pretty well.  Yesterday I had Hornets -4.5 vs Bulls, Pacers to beat Knicks, Magic -6.5 vs Cavs and I hit them all!!!!!</p>
<p>Tonight I just got the Celtics  4.5 vs Rockets and Under 202.5 for Bucks vs Heat.[/quote]</p>
<p>U better be easy, with that addictive personality of yours. I know because I am the same way. I love that unders pick on the heat/bucks game. Betting against the Rockets right now is a gutsy move, especially since the Celtics had a very hard fought game last night against the spurs. They had to come back from a big deficit in that game.</p>
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		<title>By: ViolentMike</title>
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		<dc:creator>ViolentMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="372868"]VM: I did some research last night on Memphis's 1st round game, and I think they have a great chance of covering the 25 point spread. Memphis lacks size, fortunatley so does their opponent.

Memphis will have trouble facing teams with big front lines. Luckily, Texas Arlington has oneo f the smallest starting line ups in the tournament. The size of the starting line up is:
5'11
6'2
6'4
6'5
6'9

Memphis starting line up:
6'3 (rose)
6'6
6'7
6'9
6'9

Basically what I am trying to say is that Memphis plays "small ball" and since they are facing another team that plays small ball, Memphis wont have to worry about being banged around by a big front line, so I am really starting to like Memphis covering the 25 pt spread.[/quote]

I just locked it in at -24.5   I've been putting a few bucks on a couple of NBA games a night and been doing pretty well.  Yesterday I had Hornets -4.5 vs Bulls, Pacers to beat Knicks, Magic -6.5 vs Cavs and I hit them all!!!!!

Tonight I just got the Celtics  4.5 vs Rockets and Under 202.5 for Bucks vs Heat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment=&#8221;372868&#8243;]VM: I did some research last night on Memphis&#8217;s 1st round game, and I think they have a great chance of covering the 25 point spread. Memphis lacks size, fortunatley so does their opponent.</p>
<p>Memphis will have trouble facing teams with big front lines. Luckily, Texas Arlington has oneo f the smallest starting line ups in the tournament. The size of the starting line up is:<br />
5&#8242;11<br />
6&#8242;2<br />
6&#8242;4<br />
6&#8242;5<br />
6&#8242;9</p>
<p>Memphis starting line up:<br />
6&#8242;3 (rose)<br />
6&#8242;6<br />
6&#8242;7<br />
6&#8242;9<br />
6&#8242;9</p>
<p>Basically what I am trying to say is that Memphis plays &#8220;small ball&#8221; and since they are facing another team that plays small ball, Memphis wont have to worry about being banged around by a big front line, so I am really starting to like Memphis covering the 25 pt spread.[/quote]</p>
<p>I just locked it in at -24.5   I&#8217;ve been putting a few bucks on a couple of NBA games a night and been doing pretty well.  Yesterday I had Hornets -4.5 vs Bulls, Pacers to beat Knicks, Magic -6.5 vs Cavs and I hit them all!!!!!</p>
<p>Tonight I just got the Celtics  4.5 vs Rockets and Under 202.5 for Bucks vs Heat.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="372874"][quote comment="372872"]PHILQny, and ViolentMizzle: Check out yesterday's thread on "Randy Couture vs. Fedor anywhere just not in the UFC". I posted wanderlei's new interview under that thread were he states that Jacre is in Vegas at Extreme Couture helping wanderlei prepare for his next fight and that Jacre will be in the UFC soon.

I posted wanderlei's entire interview, which had to be translated from portugease. Check it out when you have the time, its a good read and wanderlei talks about how he was dissapointed that Galvao couldn't be on TUF 7 because of Visa problems.[/quote]

Thanks bud.[/quote]

U got it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment=&#8221;372874&#8243;][quote comment=&#8221;372872&#8243;]PHILQny, and ViolentMizzle: Check out yesterday&#8217;s thread on &#8220;Randy Couture vs. Fedor anywhere just not in the UFC&#8221;. I posted wanderlei&#8217;s new interview under that thread were he states that Jacre is in Vegas at Extreme Couture helping wanderlei prepare for his next fight and that Jacre will be in the UFC soon.</p>
<p>I posted wanderlei&#8217;s entire interview, which had to be translated from portugease. Check it out when you have the time, its a good read and wanderlei talks about how he was dissapointed that Galvao couldn&#8217;t be on TUF 7 because of Visa problems.[/quote]</p>
<p>Thanks bud.[/quote]</p>
<p>U got it!</p>
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		<title>By: PhilQNY</title>
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		<dc:creator>PhilQNY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="372872"]PHILQny, and ViolentMizzle: Check out yesterday's thread on "Randy Couture vs. Fedor anywhere just not in the UFC". I posted wanderlei's new interview under that thread were he states that Jacre is in Vegas at Extreme Couture helping wanderlei prepare for his next fight and that Jacre will be in the UFC soon.

I posted wanderlei's entire interview, which had to be translated from portugease. Check it out when you have the time, its a good read and wanderlei talks about how he was dissapointed that Galvao couldn't be on TUF 7 because of Visa problems.[/quote]


Thanks bud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment=&#8221;372872&#8243;]PHILQny, and ViolentMizzle: Check out yesterday&#8217;s thread on &#8220;Randy Couture vs. Fedor anywhere just not in the UFC&#8221;. I posted wanderlei&#8217;s new interview under that thread were he states that Jacre is in Vegas at Extreme Couture helping wanderlei prepare for his next fight and that Jacre will be in the UFC soon.</p>
<p>I posted wanderlei&#8217;s entire interview, which had to be translated from portugease. Check it out when you have the time, its a good read and wanderlei talks about how he was dissapointed that Galvao couldn&#8217;t be on TUF 7 because of Visa problems.[/quote]</p>
<p>Thanks bud.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PHILQny, and ViolentMizzle: Check out yesterday's thread on "Randy Couture vs. Fedor anywhere just not in the UFC". I posted wanderlei's new interview under that thread were he states that Jacre is in Vegas at Extreme Couture helping wanderlei prepare for his next fight and that Jacre will be in the UFC soon.

I posted wanderlei's entire interview, which had to be translated from portugease. Check it out when you have the time, its a good read and wanderlei talks about how he was dissapointed that Galvao couldn't be on TUF 7 because of Visa problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PHILQny, and ViolentMizzle: Check out yesterday&#8217;s thread on &#8220;Randy Couture vs. Fedor anywhere just not in the UFC&#8221;. I posted wanderlei&#8217;s new interview under that thread were he states that Jacre is in Vegas at Extreme Couture helping wanderlei prepare for his next fight and that Jacre will be in the UFC soon.</p>
<p>I posted wanderlei&#8217;s entire interview, which had to be translated from portugease. Check it out when you have the time, its a good read and wanderlei talks about how he was dissapointed that Galvao couldn&#8217;t be on TUF 7 because of Visa problems.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VM: I did some research last night on Memphis's 1st round game, and I think they have a great chance of covering the 25 point spread. Memphis lacks size, fortunatley so does their opponent.

Memphis will have trouble facing teams with big front lines. Luckily, Texas Arlington has oneo f the smallest starting line ups in the tournament. The size of the starting line up is:
5'11
6'2
6'4
6'5
6'9

Memphis starting line up:
6'3 (rose)
6'6
6'7
6'9
6'9

Basically what I am trying to say is that Memphis plays "small ball" and since they are facing another team that plays small ball, Memphis wont have to worry about being banged around by a big front line, so I am really starting to like Memphis covering the 25 pt spread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VM: I did some research last night on Memphis&#8217;s 1st round game, and I think they have a great chance of covering the 25 point spread. Memphis lacks size, fortunatley so does their opponent.</p>
<p>Memphis will have trouble facing teams with big front lines. Luckily, Texas Arlington has oneo f the smallest starting line ups in the tournament. The size of the starting line up is:<br />
5&#8242;11<br />
6&#8242;2<br />
6&#8242;4<br />
6&#8242;5<br />
6&#8242;9</p>
<p>Memphis starting line up:<br />
6&#8242;3 (rose)<br />
6&#8242;6<br />
6&#8242;7<br />
6&#8242;9<br />
6&#8242;9</p>
<p>Basically what I am trying to say is that Memphis plays &#8220;small ball&#8221; and since they are facing another team that plays small ball, Memphis wont have to worry about being banged around by a big front line, so I am really starting to like Memphis covering the 25 pt spread.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VM: I too wasn't understand why everyone on this site seems to think that Fisher has no ground game. I think his ju jitsu is very under rated.

As for Aurelio, they are matching him up against a submission fighter, and I dont think there are that many submission specialists at 155 not fighting in the UFC that will be able to hand with Maximus on the ground. Aurelio should submit Miller no later than the 2nd round.

VM: I checked the archives because I know you dont log onto this site on weekends, but I was happy to read that you saw mania's post on all the new PRIDE titles that are going to be released this May. I was soooooooo happy Saturday when I read that post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VM: I too wasn&#8217;t understand why everyone on this site seems to think that Fisher has no ground game. I think his ju jitsu is very under rated.</p>
<p>As for Aurelio, they are matching him up against a submission fighter, and I dont think there are that many submission specialists at 155 not fighting in the UFC that will be able to hand with Maximus on the ground. Aurelio should submit Miller no later than the 2nd round.</p>
<p>VM: I checked the archives because I know you dont log onto this site on weekends, but I was happy to read that you saw mania&#8217;s post on all the new PRIDE titles that are going to be released this May. I was soooooooo happy Saturday when I read that post!</p>
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		<title>By: ViolentMike</title>
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		<dc:creator>ViolentMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the opponent was going to be J. Miller, I much rather would have preferred that it be JASON rather than Jim.  But Mayhem has been fighting at MW for quite some time now, but I'm pretty sure that he'd still be able to make 170.  But then again, if he was to make a return to the UFC I'd prefer it to be on the main card of a PPV and not an injury replacement on the undercard of UFN.  His last fight was with HDnet fights, but I don't know how long his contract is.  The contracts are non-exclusive, but Dana isn't much into inter-promoting.

I don't know much about Jim Miller except that he is a submission fighter and the only fighter I know of that he has faced is Frankie Edgar and he lost by decision.  Well Spencer Fisher and Tyson Griffin both lost to Edgar via decision and they are no slouches.  However, I do not expect Miller to be up to par with the above mentioned.  There is no way that Miller is better or more technical on the ground then Maximus.  Aurelio SHOULD win this fight relatively easily.  HE HOLDS A WIN OVER GOMI.  But Miller is not the same type of fighter as Gomi, but he is about 100 times less of a fighter than Gomi.  

Fisher/Aurelio was a fight that I wanted to see.  Fisher could not stop the Edgar takedown at all.  It was as if he not only never fought a wrestler before, but never even trained in wrestling before!  If Aurelio got Spencer to the ground, most are saying that he would have submitted him rather easily.  In 24 fights, Fisher has never been submitted.  His BJJ is just fine, and has 4 wins by Triangle Choke and 2 by arm bar which means that he does have an active guard.  But Aurelio's BJJ is on another level of Fisher and Miller.  Right now, I am thinking of Miller as a version of Spencer Fisher that doesn't have nearly as good standup.  Should provide for an easy win for Maximus.

[quote comment="372063"]that sucks. oh well i'd feel worse if spencer's fight was supposed to be televised, but seeing how stacked the card is, the chances of it showing on the air were slim to none anyway.[/quote]

True.  Without knowing the outcomes of the undercard fights, I had this as the third best undercard fight that should be shown.  

#1 Thomas/Neer 
#2 Guida/Schiavo

Now the Aurelio fight has zero chance of being shown, unless he has a super quick impressive win in the first round and the UFC wants to start giving him a push.  But with the stacked LW division, I don't see that happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the opponent was going to be J. Miller, I much rather would have preferred that it be JASON rather than Jim.  But Mayhem has been fighting at MW for quite some time now, but I&#8217;m pretty sure that he&#8217;d still be able to make 170.  But then again, if he was to make a return to the UFC I&#8217;d prefer it to be on the main card of a PPV and not an injury replacement on the undercard of UFN.  His last fight was with HDnet fights, but I don&#8217;t know how long his contract is.  The contracts are non-exclusive, but Dana isn&#8217;t much into inter-promoting.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know much about Jim Miller except that he is a submission fighter and the only fighter I know of that he has faced is Frankie Edgar and he lost by decision.  Well Spencer Fisher and Tyson Griffin both lost to Edgar via decision and they are no slouches.  However, I do not expect Miller to be up to par with the above mentioned.  There is no way that Miller is better or more technical on the ground then Maximus.  Aurelio SHOULD win this fight relatively easily.  HE HOLDS A WIN OVER GOMI.  But Miller is not the same type of fighter as Gomi, but he is about 100 times less of a fighter than Gomi.  </p>
<p>Fisher/Aurelio was a fight that I wanted to see.  Fisher could not stop the Edgar takedown at all.  It was as if he not only never fought a wrestler before, but never even trained in wrestling before!  If Aurelio got Spencer to the ground, most are saying that he would have submitted him rather easily.  In 24 fights, Fisher has never been submitted.  His BJJ is just fine, and has 4 wins by Triangle Choke and 2 by arm bar which means that he does have an active guard.  But Aurelio&#8217;s BJJ is on another level of Fisher and Miller.  Right now, I am thinking of Miller as a version of Spencer Fisher that doesn&#8217;t have nearly as good standup.  Should provide for an easy win for Maximus.</p>
<p>[quote comment=&#8221;372063&#8243;]that sucks. oh well i&#8217;d feel worse if spencer&#8217;s fight was supposed to be televised, but seeing how stacked the card is, the chances of it showing on the air were slim to none anyway.[/quote]</p>
<p>True.  Without knowing the outcomes of the undercard fights, I had this as the third best undercard fight that should be shown.  </p>
<p>#1 Thomas/Neer<br />
#2 Guida/Schiavo</p>
<p>Now the Aurelio fight has zero chance of being shown, unless he has a super quick impressive win in the first round and the UFC wants to start giving him a push.  But with the stacked LW division, I don&#8217;t see that happening.</p>
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		<title>By: ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY!</title>
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		<dc:creator>ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>spencer fisher....who cares..and who is he fighting...what a bunch of no names.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>spencer fisher&#8230;.who cares..and who is he fighting&#8230;what a bunch of no names.</p>
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