Comments on: Jess Liaudin vs. Paul Taylor UFC 85 fight booked http://mmamania.com/2008/03/17/jess-liaudin-vs-paul-taylor-ufc-85-fight-booked/ UFC news, event schedules, fight analysis, Octagon predictions, UFC fighters and MMA thoughts Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:09:30 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Will http://mmamania.com/2008/03/17/jess-liaudin-vs-paul-taylor-ufc-85-fight-booked/comment-page-1/#comment-392541 Will Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:43:02 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/17/jess-liaudin-vs-paul-taylor-ufc-85-fight-booked/#comment-392541 Tiger Muay Thai and MMA Taining camp wants to Thank Jess Liaudin and his crew from Pancrase London for training with us in Phuket Thailand at our training camp as Jess "The Joker" prepared for his upcoming Muay Thai fights and also wrote an article on the camp for Fighters Mag in U.K. Jess is a fantastic coach and fighter and really helped the guests training in our MMA program. Cheers to Jess and the Pancrase crew. Tiger Muay Thai and MMA Taining camp wants to Thank Jess Liaudin and his crew from Pancrase London for training with us in Phuket Thailand at our training camp as Jess “The Joker” prepared for his upcoming Muay Thai fights and also wrote an article on the camp for Fighters Mag in U.K.
Jess is a fantastic coach and fighter and really helped the guests training in our MMA program.
Cheers to Jess and the Pancrase crew.

]]> By: john http://mmamania.com/2008/03/17/jess-liaudin-vs-paul-taylor-ufc-85-fight-booked/comment-page-1/#comment-372994 john Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:09:19 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/17/jess-liaudin-vs-paul-taylor-ufc-85-fight-booked/#comment-372994 PW: I just have a feeling that Lauzon is going to clip him and than jump on him and finish the fight. I also think it will end in the first round.Kenny Florian sit somewhere near the top of the division, and hasn't been stopped since the Diego fight which was 2 divisions heavier than where he fights now. Kenny will be a very hard task for Joe. Kenny is one of the most improved fighters from all the TUF shows, along with Koschek and Marcus Davis. I really cant provide any concrete evidence to support my claim that Joe is going to catch him and win the. Its just a gut instinct. Creepy Joe is a GAME dude, and he is training with one of the best in the world in Penn. Like Florian, joe is always improving. He is the younger fighter, Kenny has been talking a lot of smack about everyone lately and just have this feeling that he is going to get caught! If I had to choose an underdog to knock off Florian right now, Creepy Joe would be one of my choices. He started his UFC career by upsetting Jens, who was the 1st ever Lightweight champion in the UFC. This isnt a knock on Kenny, because I am a fan of his and I think he is one of the better fighters in the division, but I just have a feeling that Joe is going to pull it off! Kenny will get caught by a wild hook, fall, and Joe will jump right on him and finish the fight TKO style. If I had to compare creepy joe to a big time fighther, I would say Joe reminds me of a young, lightweight Dan Henderson. PW: I just have a feeling that Lauzon is going to clip him and than jump on him and finish the fight. I also think it will end in the first round.Kenny Florian sit somewhere near the top of the division, and hasn’t been stopped since the Diego fight which was 2 divisions heavier than where he fights now. Kenny will be a very hard task for Joe. Kenny is one of the most improved fighters from all the TUF shows, along with Koschek and Marcus Davis. I really cant provide any concrete evidence to support my claim that Joe is going to catch him and win the. Its just a gut instinct. Creepy Joe is a GAME dude, and he is training with one of the best in the world in Penn. Like Florian, joe is always improving. He is the younger fighter, Kenny has been talking a lot of smack about everyone lately and just have this feeling that he is going to get caught!

If I had to choose an underdog to knock off Florian right now, Creepy Joe would be one of my choices. He started his UFC career by upsetting Jens, who was the 1st ever Lightweight champion in the UFC. This isnt a knock on Kenny, because I am a fan of his and I think he is one of the better fighters in the division, but I just have a feeling that Joe is going to pull it off! Kenny will get caught by a wild hook, fall, and Joe will jump right on him and finish the fight TKO style.

If I had to compare creepy joe to a big time fighther, I would say Joe reminds me of a young, lightweight Dan Henderson.

]]> By: ToeLock http://mmamania.com/2008/03/17/jess-liaudin-vs-paul-taylor-ufc-85-fight-booked/comment-page-1/#comment-372705 ToeLock Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:59:18 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/17/jess-liaudin-vs-paul-taylor-ufc-85-fight-booked/#comment-372705 Sorry Automation... no harm done, it's all fun and as you say all theories Sorry Automation… no harm done, it’s all fun and as you say all theories

]]> By: PW http://mmamania.com/2008/03/17/jess-liaudin-vs-paul-taylor-ufc-85-fight-booked/comment-page-1/#comment-372206 PW Tue, 18 Mar 2008 05:21:57 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/17/jess-liaudin-vs-paul-taylor-ufc-85-fight-booked/#comment-372206 [quote comment="371621"][quote comment="371457"][quote comment="371388"][quote comment="371274"]Its funny that after I read the headline that these two will be fighting, the first thing that came to my mind was "That's going to be a good scrap, hopefully it will be an undercard bout that makes its way to the televised portion". Then Mania proceeds to use the word "scrap" to describe the fight, and so did about 5 posters. That's awesome. LOL I see more potential in Paul Taylor than I do in Jess Liudan, and I find Taylor to be SUPER exciting, so I will of course be rooting for Taylor. I wonder what the betting lines for this fight will be like? Who would be the favorite? I think the odds would be pretty even with the Joker being the slight favorite. What do you think?[/quote] Interesting. I would think taylor would be the favorite but not by much. Either way should be a very exciting fight. This may become the "swing bout" of the event. As exciting as a match up this is, it would never be the swing bout of a Vegas fight card, but since its taking place in England, and Traditionally UFC events in England feature weaker cards, This has a shot of being televised, at least now. If better quality fights start getting booked, then this fight wont be televised. Either way its a solid match up. I really hope Davis vs. Swick happens. Has it been confirmed or is it still in the "rumor stage"[/quote] John, I'm kinda sorta hoping that Taylor is the dog in this one, since I'd like to drop some coin on him, but wouldn't do so if he was the favorite. He has yet to win in the UFC and the Joker has a couple of ocatagon wins under his belt. Slight Advantage in the eyes of the oddsmakers: The Joker Slight Advantage in the eyes of the hardcore fan: Paul Taylor[/quote] I was hoping for the same thing as you. I would love to throw some money on Taylor as a dog. Hopefully everyone bets on the Joker, to swing the odss in our favor. Upset Special: Joe Lauzon is going to clip Ken flow with something nasty, and TKO him in the 1st round! Creepy Joe, takes another step towards the top with a devestating KO of Ken Flo, Kenny hasnt been Ko'ed in a long time, I think he is due to get caught, Lauzon is the perfect guy to pull off the upset. This is no knock on kenny, I think he is one of the toughest lightweights in the UFC, I just think Joe has it in him, to pull off an upset.[/quote] Kenny hasn't been knocked out since the TUF 1 Finale against Diego when they fought at 185. Lauzon has the ability to knock him out, but I think Kill-Flo gets better every time out. [quote comment="371621"][quote comment="371457"][quote comment="371388"][quote comment="371274"]Its funny that after I read the headline that these two will be fighting, the first thing that came to my mind was “That’s going to be a good scrap, hopefully it will be an undercard bout that makes its way to the televised portion”. Then Mania proceeds to use the word “scrap” to describe the fight, and so did about 5 posters. That’s awesome. LOL

I see more potential in Paul Taylor than I do in Jess Liudan, and I find Taylor to be SUPER exciting, so I will of course be rooting for Taylor.

I wonder what the betting lines for this fight will be like? Who would be the favorite? I think the odds would be pretty even with the Joker being the slight favorite. What do you think?[/quote]

Interesting. I would think taylor would be the favorite but not by much. Either way should be a very exciting fight. This may become the “swing bout” of the event. As exciting as a match up this is, it would never be the swing bout of a Vegas fight card, but since its taking place in England, and Traditionally UFC events in England feature weaker cards, This has a shot of being televised, at least now. If better quality fights start getting booked, then this fight wont be televised.

Either way its a solid match up.

I really hope Davis vs. Swick happens. Has it been confirmed or is it still in the “rumor stage”[/quote]

John, I’m kinda sorta hoping that Taylor is the dog in this one, since I’d like to drop some coin on him, but wouldn’t do so if he was the favorite. He has yet to win in the UFC and the Joker has a couple of ocatagon wins under his belt.

Slight Advantage in the eyes of the oddsmakers: The Joker
Slight Advantage in the eyes of the hardcore fan: Paul Taylor[/quote]

I was hoping for the same thing as you. I would love to throw some money on Taylor as a dog. Hopefully everyone bets on the Joker, to swing the odss in our favor.

Upset Special: Joe Lauzon is going to clip Ken flow with something nasty, and TKO him in the 1st round! Creepy Joe, takes another step towards the top with a devestating KO of Ken Flo, Kenny hasnt been Ko’ed in a long time, I think he is due to get caught, Lauzon is the perfect guy to pull off the upset.

This is no knock on kenny, I think he is one of the toughest lightweights in the UFC, I just think Joe has it in him, to pull off an upset.[/quote]
Kenny hasn’t been knocked out since the TUF 1 Finale against Diego when they fought at 185. Lauzon has the ability to knock him out, but I think Kill-Flo gets better every time out.

]]> By: Bob http://mmamania.com/2008/03/17/jess-liaudin-vs-paul-taylor-ufc-85-fight-booked/comment-page-1/#comment-371884 Bob Tue, 18 Mar 2008 01:20:09 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/17/jess-liaudin-vs-paul-taylor-ufc-85-fight-booked/#comment-371884 [quote comment="371205"]Whatever another crap UK card.[/quote] Serioulsy? Paul Taylor has proven to be very entertaining, and have the shows in England! I just hope this one is free. Not because of the card...just because I'm cheap. [quote comment="371205"]Whatever another crap UK card.[/quote]
Serioulsy? Paul Taylor has proven to be very entertaining, and have the shows in England! I just hope this one is free. Not because of the card…just because I’m cheap.

]]> By: john http://mmamania.com/2008/03/17/jess-liaudin-vs-paul-taylor-ufc-85-fight-booked/comment-page-1/#comment-371621 john Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:28:20 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/17/jess-liaudin-vs-paul-taylor-ufc-85-fight-booked/#comment-371621 [quote comment="371457"][quote comment="371388"][quote comment="371274"]Its funny that after I read the headline that these two will be fighting, the first thing that came to my mind was "That's going to be a good scrap, hopefully it will be an undercard bout that makes its way to the televised portion". Then Mania proceeds to use the word "scrap" to describe the fight, and so did about 5 posters. That's awesome. LOL I see more potential in Paul Taylor than I do in Jess Liudan, and I find Taylor to be SUPER exciting, so I will of course be rooting for Taylor. I wonder what the betting lines for this fight will be like? Who would be the favorite? I think the odds would be pretty even with the Joker being the slight favorite. What do you think?[/quote] Interesting. I would think taylor would be the favorite but not by much. Either way should be a very exciting fight. This may become the "swing bout" of the event. As exciting as a match up this is, it would never be the swing bout of a Vegas fight card, but since its taking place in England, and Traditionally UFC events in England feature weaker cards, This has a shot of being televised, at least now. If better quality fights start getting booked, then this fight wont be televised. Either way its a solid match up. I really hope Davis vs. Swick happens. Has it been confirmed or is it still in the "rumor stage"[/quote] John, I'm kinda sorta hoping that Taylor is the dog in this one, since I'd like to drop some coin on him, but wouldn't do so if he was the favorite. He has yet to win in the UFC and the Joker has a couple of ocatagon wins under his belt. Slight Advantage in the eyes of the oddsmakers: The Joker Slight Advantage in the eyes of the hardcore fan: Paul Taylor[/quote] I was hoping for the same thing as you. I would love to throw some money on Taylor as a dog. Hopefully everyone bets on the Joker, to swing the odss in our favor. Upset Special: Joe Lauzon is going to clip Ken flow with something nasty, and TKO him in the 1st round! Creepy Joe, takes another step towards the top with a devestating KO of Ken Flo, Kenny hasnt been Ko'ed in a long time, I think he is due to get caught, Lauzon is the perfect guy to pull off the upset. This is no knock on kenny, I think he is one of the toughest lightweights in the UFC, I just think Joe has it in him, to pull off an upset. [quote comment="371457"][quote comment="371388"][quote comment="371274"]Its funny that after I read the headline that these two will be fighting, the first thing that came to my mind was “That’s going to be a good scrap, hopefully it will be an undercard bout that makes its way to the televised portion”. Then Mania proceeds to use the word “scrap” to describe the fight, and so did about 5 posters. That’s awesome. LOL

I see more potential in Paul Taylor than I do in Jess Liudan, and I find Taylor to be SUPER exciting, so I will of course be rooting for Taylor.

I wonder what the betting lines for this fight will be like? Who would be the favorite? I think the odds would be pretty even with the Joker being the slight favorite. What do you think?[/quote]

Interesting. I would think taylor would be the favorite but not by much. Either way should be a very exciting fight. This may become the “swing bout” of the event. As exciting as a match up this is, it would never be the swing bout of a Vegas fight card, but since its taking place in England, and Traditionally UFC events in England feature weaker cards, This has a shot of being televised, at least now. If better quality fights start getting booked, then this fight wont be televised.

Either way its a solid match up.

I really hope Davis vs. Swick happens. Has it been confirmed or is it still in the “rumor stage”[/quote]

John, I’m kinda sorta hoping that Taylor is the dog in this one, since I’d like to drop some coin on him, but wouldn’t do so if he was the favorite. He has yet to win in the UFC and the Joker has a couple of ocatagon wins under his belt.

Slight Advantage in the eyes of the oddsmakers: The Joker
Slight Advantage in the eyes of the hardcore fan: Paul Taylor[/quote]

I was hoping for the same thing as you. I would love to throw some money on Taylor as a dog. Hopefully everyone bets on the Joker, to swing the odss in our favor.

Upset Special: Joe Lauzon is going to clip Ken flow with something nasty, and TKO him in the 1st round! Creepy Joe, takes another step towards the top with a devestating KO of Ken Flo, Kenny hasnt been Ko’ed in a long time, I think he is due to get caught, Lauzon is the perfect guy to pull off the upset.

This is no knock on kenny, I think he is one of the toughest lightweights in the UFC, I just think Joe has it in him, to pull off an upset.

]]> By: Automation http://mmamania.com/2008/03/17/jess-liaudin-vs-paul-taylor-ufc-85-fight-booked/comment-page-1/#comment-371547 Automation Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:42:39 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/17/jess-liaudin-vs-paul-taylor-ufc-85-fight-booked/#comment-371547 [quote comment="371510"][quote comment="371208"][quote comment="371199"][quote comment="371176"]UFC signed all these Britsh dudes, butthtey had a problem signing some of Fedor's Red Devil fight teamates? Make no sense to me, except for the fact that the British fighters only appear on British fight cards.[/quote] Dare I admit it........British fighters can only compete with other british fighters at the moment. Hence the hype around Bisping. Our last british representative....Ian Freeman. We are just not at the same level.........Yet!!! I still practice every day with my 5 year old daughter lol.[/quote] Paul Taylor almost finished Marcus Davis, and hes um... American... thats competing with someone other than a British fighter right? Anyways this should be an awesome fight between two solid fighters that are coming off losses and one that pretty much has his back against the wall (Taylor)[/quote] They both have a loss to Davis, just to back up your point! But...UK is miles behind US/Brazil for MMA...No need to be all Whoop Whoop about it (Automation)...Try the art of humbleness, it's a much better attitude than obnoxious :)[/quote] Me? Obnoxious?? Wasn't trying to be :( Taylor and Liaudin will rock. I was trying to give my theory why british vs british on british cards. To be honest, I'm more excited about Liaudin. [quote comment="371510"][quote comment="371208"][quote comment="371199"][quote comment="371176"]UFC signed all these Britsh dudes, butthtey had a problem signing some of Fedor’s Red Devil fight teamates? Make no sense to me, except for the fact that the British fighters only appear on British fight cards.[/quote]

Dare I admit it……..British fighters can only compete with other british fighters at the moment. Hence the hype around Bisping.

Our last british representative….Ian Freeman.

We are just not at the same level………Yet!!!

I still practice every day with my 5 year old daughter lol.[/quote]
Paul Taylor almost finished Marcus Davis, and hes um… American… thats competing with someone other than a British fighter right? Anyways this should be an awesome fight between two solid fighters that are coming off losses and one that pretty much has his back against the wall (Taylor)[/quote]
They both have a loss to Davis, just to back up your point!

But…UK is miles behind US/Brazil for MMA…No need to be all Whoop Whoop about it (Automation)…Try the art of humbleness, it’s a much better attitude than obnoxious :) [/quote]

Me? Obnoxious?? Wasn’t trying to be :(

Taylor and Liaudin will rock.

I was trying to give my theory why british vs british on british cards.

To be honest, I’m more excited about Liaudin.

]]> By: "Mr. NC-17" http://mmamania.com/2008/03/17/jess-liaudin-vs-paul-taylor-ufc-85-fight-booked/comment-page-1/#comment-371543 "Mr. NC-17" Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:37:29 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/17/jess-liaudin-vs-paul-taylor-ufc-85-fight-booked/#comment-371543 Paul Taylor vs. Jess Liaudin, I hope this happens similiar to the Liaudin vs. Davis match. I want to see Jess talk all of this crap, then just get knocked out like a bitch. I dont like Jess, and I think Paul Taylor needs a win.. Now, if we can get Paul Kelly back into the octagon, I will be a happy man. Paul Taylor vs. Jess Liaudin, I hope this happens similiar to the Liaudin vs. Davis match. I want to see Jess talk all of this crap, then just get knocked out like a bitch. I dont like Jess, and I think Paul Taylor needs a win..

Now, if we can get Paul Kelly back into the octagon, I will be a happy man.

]]> By: ToeLock http://mmamania.com/2008/03/17/jess-liaudin-vs-paul-taylor-ufc-85-fight-booked/comment-page-1/#comment-371521 ToeLock Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:26:57 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/17/jess-liaudin-vs-paul-taylor-ufc-85-fight-booked/#comment-371521 Oh btw...Come on Taylor! He's too good a fighter to go 0-3 in the UFC! [quote comment="371205"]Whatever another crap UK card.[/quote] Ok... So UFC 75 Champion Vs Champion with Page and Hendo was crap? and UFC 80 With Penn and Joe Daddy Was crap? You muppet, that card especially was SICK and was one of the best night of fights I had seen all year! It's an over used term but.....think before you speak Oh btw…Come on Taylor! He’s too good a fighter to go 0-3 in the UFC!

[quote comment="371205"]Whatever another crap UK card.[/quote]
Ok…

So UFC 75 Champion Vs Champion with Page and Hendo was crap?

and UFC 80 With Penn and Joe Daddy Was crap? You muppet, that card especially was SICK and was one of the best night of fights I had seen all year!

It’s an over used term but…..think before you speak

]]> By: ToeLock http://mmamania.com/2008/03/17/jess-liaudin-vs-paul-taylor-ufc-85-fight-booked/comment-page-1/#comment-371510 ToeLock Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:20:26 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/17/jess-liaudin-vs-paul-taylor-ufc-85-fight-booked/#comment-371510 [quote comment="371208"][quote comment="371199"][quote comment="371176"]UFC signed all these Britsh dudes, butthtey had a problem signing some of Fedor's Red Devil fight teamates? Make no sense to me, except for the fact that the British fighters only appear on British fight cards.[/quote] Dare I admit it........British fighters can only compete with other british fighters at the moment. Hence the hype around Bisping. Our last british representative....Ian Freeman. We are just not at the same level.........Yet!!! I still practice every day with my 5 year old daughter lol.[/quote] Paul Taylor almost finished Marcus Davis, and hes um... American... thats competing with someone other than a British fighter right? Anyways this should be an awesome fight between two solid fighters that are coming off losses and one that pretty much has his back against the wall (Taylor)[/quote] They both have a loss to Davis, just to back up your point! But...UK is miles behind US/Brazil for MMA...No need to be all Whoop Whoop about it (Automation)...Try the art of humbleness, it's a much better attitude than obnoxious :) [quote comment="371208"][quote comment="371199"][quote comment="371176"]UFC signed all these Britsh dudes, butthtey had a problem signing some of Fedor’s Red Devil fight teamates? Make no sense to me, except for the fact that the British fighters only appear on British fight cards.[/quote]

Dare I admit it……..British fighters can only compete with other british fighters at the moment. Hence the hype around Bisping.

Our last british representative….Ian Freeman.

We are just not at the same level………Yet!!!

I still practice every day with my 5 year old daughter lol.[/quote]
Paul Taylor almost finished Marcus Davis, and hes um… American… thats competing with someone other than a British fighter right? Anyways this should be an awesome fight between two solid fighters that are coming off losses and one that pretty much has his back against the wall (Taylor)[/quote]
They both have a loss to Davis, just to back up your point!

But…UK is miles behind US/Brazil for MMA…No need to be all Whoop Whoop about it (Automation)…Try the art of humbleness, it’s a much better attitude than obnoxious :)

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