Kenny Florian 4.0 is awesome, he is better than 3.0

UFN 13 is going to be one of best fight nights..and fight card in general that us fans will see..It’s free..you can’t beat free..I just hope this type of card comes around more often. Ken vs J-Lau..I haveto flip a coin..Kenny will for sure be the slight fav IMO.

Yeah, I would give Florian the slight nod. However, with Lauzon training with BJ and Faber… what an incredible advantage that is. Winner should win a new nickname, and loser should lose their nickname.

Kenny Florian is such an overrated fighter. Every fight that has really mattered he has lost. He’s never beat a real contender. He prides himself on being able to cut people with his boney elbows. This guy will never hold the title in the LW division or any other division. Nate Diaz ‘Version 1′ would school this guy. Its going to be funny when Lauzon gets the early submission or KO win.

[quote comment=”364987″]Kenny Florian is such an overrated fighter. Every fight that has really mattered he has lost. He’s never beat a real contender. He prides himself on being able to cut people with his boney elbows. This guy will never hold the title in the LW division or any other division. Nate Diaz ‘Version 1′ would school this guy. Its going to be funny when Lauzon gets the early submission or KO win.[/quote]

Pretty well said.

I do agree that K-Flo thinks he has the best elbows in the business, maybe he has, but you need more than one tool.

However, I do like K-Flo and think he is a force to be reckoned with. He is ever improving.

But on this occasion, I see J-Lo pulling off the win

[quote post=”5330″]I don’t want to go against a guy that I have to chase or that lays on top of me.[/quote]

*cough* SEAN SHERK *cough*cough*

This is going to be a solid main event, as long as the outcome isn’t similar to the last time Kenny headlined a free event. That was when Din Thomas blew out his knee. That would have been a great fight, but in my opinion, that fight never even really took place.

Florian get the slight edge going into this fight with Lauzon. It is very close, but Kenny’s experience factor alone gives him the slight edge in this bout. Either fighter can win the fight via decision. Either guy can win via TKO/KO. However, I don’t see Lauzon being able to submit Florian unless he really rocks him first and then chokes him while he’s still out of it.

QUICK QUESTION: This hasn’t been discussed much I dont think, but how long do you see this fight going? Is it going to finish before the halfway point? Will it go to decision? What do you think?

does florian know any other submissions than rear naked choke or what??! i used to do that to my little brother when i was 5 years old! you know for sure lauzon is training to defend that one. the only way i see lauzon being finished is by gnp if he gets mounted because he might not be strong enough to buck kenny off.

This is going to be an amazing match. And as far as I am concerned a difficult one to call. I have doubted Florian in the past and every time he has proved me wrong. The guy has some serious skills and is extremely tough did you not see him against Sherk the only reason Sherk won was because of his strength, nothing else. I like both these guys but I learned from past experience not to doubt Florian. Should be a good one.

i think k flo will submit him in the end of the fight

This is exactly the matchup I would ask for if I could only watch one more fight in my life.

[quote comment=”364987″]Kenny Florian is such an overrated fighter. Every fight that has really mattered he has lost. He’s never beat a real contender. He prides himself on being able to cut people with his boney elbows. This guy will never hold the title in the LW division or any other division. Nate Diaz ‘Version 1′ would school this guy. Its going to be funny when Lauzon gets the early submission or KO win.[/quote]
What, Mishima (Pride Stand-out), Leben (MW contender), and his main event against Din Thomas (former LW contender) dont count? You are on Diaz’s nuts but the biggest guy he’s beat is Alvin Robinson. And Alvin just got beat by Ken-Flo as well, and it was in more dominating fashion.

Kenny Florian is such an overrated fighter. Every fight that has really mattered he has lost. He’s never beat a real contender. He prides himself on being able to cut people with his boney elbows. This guy will never hold the title in the LW division or any other division. Nate Diaz “Version 1″² would school this guy. Its going to be funny when Lauzon gets the early submission or KO win.

Kenny is not overrated he lost to Sherk. Sherk didnt even finish Kenny. Kenny would beat Nate Diaz along with have of the lightweight fighters. I think hes in the top 5 of lightweights. Just wait and see he will be a champion some day!!

[quote comment=”365075″][quote comment=”364987″]Kenny Florian is such an overrated fighter. Every fight that has really mattered he has lost. He’s never beat a real contender. He prides himself on being able to cut people with his boney elbows. This guy will never hold the title in the LW division or any other division. Nate Diaz ‘Version 1′ would school this guy. Its going to be funny when Lauzon gets the early submission or KO win.[/quote]
What, Mishima (Pride Stand-out), Leben (MW contender), and his main event against Din Thomas (former LW contender) dont count? You are on Diaz’s nuts but the biggest guy he’s beat is Alvin Robinson. And Alvin just got beat by Ken-Flo as well, and it was in more dominating fashion.[/quote]

And you say Im on Diaz’ nuts? I was just making a reference to ‘Ken-Flo’s’ dumb ass version 3 or 4 comment that a newer Diaz would dominate him. Plus Kenny tends to make himself looke like and idiot in the post fight interviews, or in any interview for that matter, including this one. And if Leben, Mishima, Thomas are the best wins you can come up with as marquee, you’ve just proven my point even more. Lauzon in round 3, if not sooner.

[quote comment=”365009″][quote post=”5330″]I don’t want to go against a guy that I have to chase or that lays on top of me.[/quote]

*cough* SEAN SHERK *cough*cough*

This is going to be a solid main event, as long as the outcome isn’t similar to the last time Kenny headlined a free event. That was when Din Thomas blew out his knee. That would have been a great fight, but in my opinion, that fight never even really took place.

Florian get the slight edge going into this fight with Lauzon. It is very close, but Kenny’s experience factor alone gives him the slight edge in this bout. Either fighter can win the fight via decision. Either guy can win via TKO/KO. However, I don’t see Lauzon being able to submit Florian unless he really rocks him first and then chokes him while he’s still out of it.

QUICK QUESTION: This hasn’t been discussed much I dont think, but how long do you see this fight going? Is it going to finish before the halfway point? Will it go to decision? What do you think?[/quote]

Those are all very good question. What makes this a great fight is that all those questions are tough to answer with any certainty. This is a very good main event, and as a betting man, Lauzon has value as an underdog!

Mania, where th hell did you get that picture of Ken Flow? I thought it was Derick Zoolander. lol

the battle of the jennifer lopez alias’s.

K-Flo vs. J-Lau with special referre, J-Lo.

I can’t wait to see Kenny #6. I wonder if Diaz is pissed that he isn’t the main card being that he was the TUF Season winner.

[quote comment=”365075″][quote comment=”364987″]Kenny Florian is such an overrated fighter. Every fight that has really mattered he has lost. He’s never beat a real contender. He prides himself on being able to cut people with his boney elbows. This guy will never hold the title in the LW division or any other division. Nate Diaz ‘Version 1′ would school this guy. Its going to be funny when Lauzon gets the early submission or KO win.[/quote]
What, Mishima (Pride Stand-out), Leben (MW contender), and his main event against Din Thomas (former LW contender) dont count? You are on Diaz’s nuts but the biggest guy he’s beat is Alvin Robinson. And Alvin just got beat by Ken-Flo as well, and it was in more dominating fashion.[/quote]
His only UFC losses are getting humped by Sherk for 25 minutes, and Sherk was definitely the more battered fighter after that one, and the TUF finale loss to Diego when he was 30 pounds above his natural weight. Kill-Flo is going to take Lauzon out in the second round, either with a TKO or a RNC.

[quote comment=”364943″]Kenny Florian 4.0 is awesome, he is better than 3.0[/quote]

i’m waiting to see how much SP2 will improve Florian 4.0, i’m hoping it adds some submission support and fixes the elbow bug.

Kenny’s walking away with this one. Awesome!

[quote comment=”365009″][quote post=”5330″]I don’t want to go against a guy that I have to chase or that lays on top of me.[/quote]

*cough* SEAN SHERK *cough*cough*

This is going to be a solid main event, as long as the outcome isn’t similar to the last time Kenny headlined a free event. That was when Din Thomas blew out his knee. That would have been a great fight, but in my opinion, that fight never even really took place.

Florian get the slight edge going into this fight with Lauzon. It is very close, but Kenny’s experience factor alone gives him the slight edge in this bout. Either fighter can win the fight via decision. Either guy can win via TKO/KO. However, I don’t see Lauzon being able to submit Florian unless he really rocks him first and then chokes him while he’s still out of it.

QUICK QUESTION: This hasn’t been discussed much I dont think, but how long do you see this fight going? Is it going to finish before the halfway point? Will it go to decision? What do you think?[/quote]
i think a few times these guys have been to aggressive or careless and almost lost some fights due to submissions. i see one of them possible losing to a quick RNC or kneebar. i dont know, kinda talking outta my ass, but from a betters perspective, i would have to put money on kenny

the guy who brings a better gameplan will win this one. i’d give strength advantage to florian, striking - even, submissions - lauzon. lauzon will win this one because he will be able to dictate where the fight will take place -even against bigger opponents as he ALWAYS did in the past against stronger opponents. His control and execution is flawless and he’s shown that he is able to capitalize on his opponents mistake and end the fight quickly. However, he needs to be real carefull NOT to get mounted because he’ll either have to give up his back or eat a bunch of elbows. Lauzon by armbar in the late 2nd.

on a side note, damn there must be a lot of new guys on here. cuz everyone is on Joe’s nuts I guess cuz u guys just saw your first TUF and u r cheering for your boyfriend. Some of you need to watch Kenneys old fights. calling him overrated? I wouldnt really call anyone who made it to the UFC overated let alone someone who won there last three and lost the one before that to a title shot. Some of you need to man up and take the Filho route and get some help before your next keyboard fight

I said this earlier in another thread, I think Lauzon is going to beat Florian Diego Sanchez style. Lauzon is going to be too big and going to outmuscle him and pound him out.

I’ve said it before on this site and I’ll say it again.

I just don’t think Lauzon will be ready for the more experienced Florian. And I don’t think the young Lauzon’s have had their careers treated well by the UFC.

Lauzon should be 4-0 in the UFC before this matchup so that his abilities are well known by fans before this big test.

Florian has had over 3 years of full time training and Lauzon barely a year if that.

Both great fighters but Florian should have been matched with Huerta or someone. Huerta needs a big name soon or he’s gonna become the non TUF version of Bisping.

I’m a fan of Lauzon and Florian. I think Florian deserves respect for how serious he takes the sport and is a true professional and spokesperson (his I finish fights speech was gay and stupid but I forgive him)

Lauzon is just a cool humble kid who I want to see do well.

[quote comment=”364943″]Kenny Florian 4.0 is awesome, he is better than 3.0[/quote]
LOL…Is the 4.0 version a BETA release?

Staying true to his Geek Fighter status, Kenny describes himself as software, love it.

[quote post=”5330″]Florian has had over 3 years of full time training and Lauzon barely a year if that.[/quote]

What??? Lauzon beat Jens Pulver in the UFC before he ever went on TUF, he’s been training MMA for years!

[quote post=”5330″]. Huerta needs a big name soon or he’s gonna become the non TUF version of Bisping[/quote]
Again…What??? He just fought Clay Guida in one of the fights of the year dude!

Stop smoking.. Or at least pass it on

[quote comment=”365220″]on a side note, damn there must be a lot of new guys on here. cuz everyone is on Joe’s nuts I guess cuz u guys just saw your first TUF and u r cheering for your boyfriend. Some of you need to watch Kenneys old fights. calling him overrated? I wouldnt really call anyone who made it to the UFC overated let alone someone who won there last three and lost the one before that to a title shot. Some of you need to man up and take the Filho route and get some help before your next keyboard fight[/quote]
LOL nice.

Plus,,, if you all remember Kenny was under-rated when he was on TUF… Still love that fight when he cut Leben to pieces and made him cry…I say that real harsh like but i really like leben, have done since he was on TUF

[quote comment=”365253″]I’ve said it before on this site and I’ll say it again.

I just don’t think Lauzon will be ready for the more experienced Florian. And I don’t think the young Lauzon’s have had their careers treated well by the UFC.

Lauzon should be 4-0 in the UFC before this matchup so that his abilities are well known by fans before this big test.

Florian has had over 3 years of full time training and Lauzon barely a year if that.

Both great fighters but Florian should have been matched with Huerta or someone. Huerta needs a big name soon or he’s gonna become the non TUF version of Bisping.

I’m a fan of Lauzon and Florian. I think Florian deserves respect for how serious he takes the sport and is a true professional and spokesperson (his I finish fights speech was gay and stupid but I forgive him)

Lauzon is just a cool humble kid who I want to see do well.[/quote]

I agree…lets see Kenny against Huerta or Edgar or Griffin for #1 contenders match.

When UFC matchmaker Joe Silva calls you and tells you you have a fight in the UFC, you better hope and pray to God he doesn’t tell you you’re fighting Kenny Florian.

[quote comment=”365304″][quote comment=”365253″]I’ve said it before on this site and I’ll say it again.

I just don’t think Lauzon will be ready for the more experienced Florian. And I don’t think the young Lauzon’s have had their careers treated well by the UFC.

Lauzon should be 4-0 in the UFC before this matchup so that his abilities are well known by fans before this big test.

Florian has had over 3 years of full time training and Lauzon barely a year if that.

Both great fighters but Florian should have been matched with Huerta or someone. Huerta needs a big name soon or he’s gonna become the non TUF version of Bisping.

I’m a fan of Lauzon and Florian. I think Florian deserves respect for how serious he takes the sport and is a true professional and spokesperson (his I finish fights speech was gay and stupid but I forgive him)

Lauzon is just a cool humble kid who I want to see do well.[/quote]

I agree…lets see Kenny against Huerta or Edgar or Griffin for #1 contenders match.[/quote]

Huerta would make quick work of Ken.

I heard somewhere that Kenny’s nickname was “The Finisher”. Sounds good?
If anything I think Joe is a little overrated. Not to take anything away from him he just needs more fights to show me what he’s got.

[quote comment=”365220″]on a side note, damn there must be a lot of new guys on here. cuz everyone is on Joe’s nuts I guess cuz u guys just saw your first TUF and u r cheering for your boyfriend. Some of you need to watch Kenneys old fights. calling him overrated? I wouldnt really call anyone who made it to the UFC overated let alone someone who won there last three and lost the one before that to a title shot. Some of you need to man up and take the Filho route and get some help before your next keyboard fight[/quote]

Did you see lauzon and jens pulver, who has florian beat that is in his league, cant say din thomas, that was an injury, cant say leiben either really with out the cut I see chris winning that one too. How did this guy get a title shot. I guess i am just not on his band wagon at all. J-lau has the eye of the tiger and he is young and hungry. It will be a good test for both though but I see Joes hands and wrestling making this a very hard fight for Kenny.

kflo is overrated.

[quote comment=”365281″][quote post=”5330″]Florian has had over 3 years of full time training and Lauzon barely a year if that.[/quote]

What??? Lauzon beat Jens Pulver in the UFC before he ever went on TUF, he’s been training MMA for years![/quote]

At that point in time, Joe was just training part time, while working full time at a computer job. After TUF, he went to Hawaii to start training full time. That must be what the original poster was referring to.

[quote comment=”365286″][quote post=”5330″]. Huerta needs a big name soon or he’s gonna become the non TUF version of Bisping[/quote]
Again…What??? He just fought Clay Guida in one of the fights of the year dude!

Stop smoking.. Or at least pass it on[/quote]

And Clay Guida was Huerta’s biggest fight to date. Guida is not Top 5 LW. Top 10 yes, but Top 5, No. To be in a fight of the year does not mean that you are a top fighter in your division (I.E. Pete Sell vs Scott Smith).

At the current moment, Huerta is taking some long deserved rest. He will look to be back in the mix during the latter part of the summer.

half of what kenflo just said didnt make sense.

[quote comment=”365467″][quote comment=”365281″][quote post=”5330″]Florian has had over 3 years of full time training and Lauzon barely a year if that.[/quote]

What??? Lauzon beat Jens Pulver in the UFC before he ever went on TUF, he’s been training MMA for years![/quote]

At that point in time, Joe was just training part time, while working full time at a computer job. After TUF, he went to Hawaii to start training full time. That must be what the original poster was referring to.

[quote comment=”365286″][quote post=”5330″]. Huerta needs a big name soon or he’s gonna become the non TUF version of Bisping[/quote]
Again…What??? He just fought Clay Guida in one of the fights of the year dude!

Stop smoking.. Or at least pass it on[/quote]

And Clay Guida was Huerta’s biggest fight to date. Guida is not Top 5 LW. Top 10 yes, but Top 5, No. To be in a fight of the year does not mean that you are a top fighter in your division (I.E. Pete Sell vs Scott Smith).

At the current moment, Huerta is taking some long deserved rest. He will look to be back in the mix during the latter part of the summer.[/quote]

Expect Huerta to make his return in a big fight on the Minesota card featuring Brock vs. Coleman.

gunna be a great fight lauzon in a knock out 1st round

Why does Ken Flow look like Zoolander in that pic? is that his blue steel look, or is it le Tigre?

blue steel

Florian and Leben are a couple of jabrones!

Kenny Florian is opening up a Kenny Florian’s MMA shool for children who do not know how to fight good.

[quote comment=”365472″]half of what kenflo just said didnt make sense.[/quote]
It doesn’t matter hes KEN-FLO 4.0, nothing can defeat him except getting dry humped by wrestlers.

i cant put my finger on it exactly, but something about Florian just annoys the shit out of me. I cant stand this mutha fucka.Joe wins 2nd rnd ko. and just a side not. Florian mos def would have lost to din had’nt his knee blown out.

Man this is a good fight, such a hard fight to call.

[quote comment=”365286″][quote post=”5330″]. Huerta needs a big name soon or he’s gonna become the non TUF version of Bisping[/quote]
Again…What??? He just fought Clay Guida in one of the fights of the year dude!

Stop smoking.. Or at least pass it on[/quote]

- i second that!

[quote comment=”365704″][quote comment=”365472″]half of what kenflo just said didnt make sense.[/quote]
It doesn’t matter hes KEN-FLO 4.0, nothing can defeat him except getting dry humped by wrestlers.[/quote]
u guys need to chill. kenny 4.0 has only been out for a few days. it still has glitches, so obviously it wont all make sense. I FINISH COMMENTS!!!!

[quote comment=”365440″][quote comment=”365220″]on a side note, damn there must be a lot of new guys on here. cuz everyone is on Joe’s nuts I guess cuz u guys just saw your first TUF and u r cheering for your boyfriend. Some of you need to watch Kenneys old fights. calling him overrated? I wouldnt really call anyone who made it to the UFC overated let alone someone who won there last three and lost the one before that to a title shot. Some of you need to man up and take the Filho route and get some help before your next keyboard fight[/quote]

Did you see lauzon and jens pulver, who has florian beat that is in his league, cant say din thomas, that was an injury, cant say leiben either really with out the cut I see chris winning that one too. How did this guy get a title shot. I guess i am just not on his band wagon at all. J-lau has the eye of the tiger and he is young and hungry. It will be a good test for both though but I see Joes hands and wrestling making this a very hard fight for Kenny.[/quote]
i would like to say that is a great response. i apologize for not making it clear, but i am a big “creepy joe” fan, and just felt that a lot of people didnt realize kenny was a great fighter. i did watch the pulver fight and he did knock his ass out and admitted he wanted to do TUF instead of another fight in UFC to get more exposure. it will be a great test to both of them, but i am giving a small advantage to kenny due to octogan experience, and yes i know joe has more fights. they are both extemely confident, which in their cases is a good thing.

[quote comment=”365657″]Kenny Florian is opening up a Kenny Florian’s MMA shool for children who do not know how to fight good.[/quote]

and want to learn how to

thanks violent mike. seems you gotta explain every detail to some of the posters on here……I used to like this site because the discussions were always positive and most people knew a little more than what “fight finder” tell’s them.

All I’ll say is that Ken Flow takes this stuff very very serious and has a few years of serious training and UFC experience on Joe, who also is a very serious fighter. I beleive that will be the only difference.

As far as Clay Guida is concerned, I also like him as a fighter as well. Unfortunatly for him, he is going to have to come back through the hard way. He’s not a fighter they are gonna allow to smash out cans. He’s going to have to face tough opposition each time.

Huerta I also like because he has a great heart but I am interested in seeing him move up in skill level of opponents.

joe lauzon will take this… nothing more to say…

Florian looks like a fruitloop lol i hope he loses.
GO Lauzon!!!

Crap! How come no one told me that Ken-Flo 4.0 wasn’t compatible with Vista? This sucks. I want my money back.