I really figured that this was going to happen. When the thoughts of depression arose, I figured, something with substances played a part of depression of Paulo Filho.

I wish Paulo all the luck, maybe he will be the next MMA fighter on Celebirty Rehab

What substance?
crack
smack
pcp
marijuana
angel dust
rock
cane
ganje
heroine
meth
sticky icky
steroids
beaver tranq’s
testosterone
estrogen
speed
caffeine
mentos
mcains frozen cake

he busted a linsday lohan! damn! i was looking forward to the rematch

Wow. This sucks. I figured this would happen.

What a douche!

Bummer. It should still be a good fight night though. (Any free one is a good one). Maybe he can follow in Ricco’s footsteps, and go on Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew. haha.

“mcains frozen cake”

a pain we all know too much…. u hit the nail on the head Jon.
LMFAO

And Sonnen get screwed yet again.

strip him of his title.

It wasn’t nose candy was it?

That’s a shame, it’s hard for me to get fired up for Doug Marshall vs. Brian Stann. Oh well, I wish you the best in your recovery Paulo.

Paulo is becoming one of those fighters… the more you learn about them, hear from them, the less you like them.
Ie: Karo, Guillard

the only way this night will be saved is if doug marshall gets the hell beat outta him

this fucking sucks….making yourself a no name real fucking fast

Good on him for pulling out. Better than fighting, getting tested and failing. Hope he’s rehab goes well and he comes back and knocks Sonnen out.

[quote comment=”364051″]Paulo is becoming one of those fighters… the more you learn about them, hear from them, the less you like them.
Ie: Karo, Guillard[/quote]

Guillard Yes. Karo No. Karo is the freggin man. Love him or hate him, he brings fireworks, intensity, and a mean set of skills to the table. And he wins.

Paulo Filho trains with Anderson Silva’s camp. If they can’t right the ship with this guy, I dunno who can.

And yea..what was he on? Cocaine is a hellavuh drug!

[quote comment=”364100″][quote comment=”364051″]Paulo is becoming one of those fighters… the more you learn about them, hear from them, the less you like them.
Ie: Karo, Guillard[/quote]

Guillard Yes. Karo No. Karo is the freggin man. Love him or hate him, he brings fireworks, intensity, and a mean set of skills to the table. And he wins.

Paulo Filho trains with Anderson Silva’s camp. If they can’t right the ship with this guy, I dunno who can.

And yea..what was he on? Cocaine is a hellavuh drug![/quote]
Karo could be the most hated next to Tim Sylvia and Tito Ortiz. TABASCOsauce isn’t an abused substance is it?

Karo is one of the most under-rated WW in the division.

I know I don’t say much here, but I personally don’t care much for Paulo myself. But THANK GOD he came clean before he lost everything. He might not be my favorite fighter out there god only knows we all have our favs, but credit givin where credit due. Paulo, fight your fight my friend…

[quote comment=”364110″][quote comment=”364100″][quote comment=”364051″]Paulo is becoming one of those fighters… the more you learn about them, hear from them, the less you like them.
Ie: Karo, Guillard[/quote]

Guillard Yes. Karo No. Karo is the freggin man. Love him or hate him, he brings fireworks, intensity, and a mean set of skills to the table. And he wins.

Paulo Filho trains with Anderson Silva’s camp. If they can’t right the ship with this guy, I dunno who can.

And yea..what was he on? Cocaine is a hellavuh drug![/quote]
Karo could be the most hated next to Tim Sylvia and Tito Ortiz. TABASCOsauce isn’t an abused substance is it?[/quote]

lol…everything in moderation-especially TABASCO.
I wasn’t referring to skills/fights in the cage…I was referring to things you see and interviews. Karo acts like he is the MMA Messiah and lies constantly. Paulo wants to go to 205 because he thinks it is a better weight? He needs to go to 170 at his height. Every move he makes, every interview/statement make me think he is a real dumbass is all. Too many fighters buy into their own hype.

Karo brings fireworks, intensity, and a complete inability to finish fights, even the retarded ones he starts with Nate Diaz.

I hope Karo has a long career in DREAM, so I never have to see him again.

PS - Much love for Paulo. Get treatment, get a sponsor, get well soon.

I’m sorry I dont really feel bad for the guy…he has everything he could wish for and this is what he decided to do with his talent. I personally think Sonnen is going to beat the hell out of Paulo. Look at what success he had against him the first time they faught. If Sonnen uses his head a little more in this fight and keeps away and keeps it standing then we will see a new champ.

How could Anderson Silva’s good friend and training partner be so mentally out of the game? Its odd.

At least hes admitting his problems and issues, hear that steroid sherk?

[quote comment=”364110″][quote comment=”364100″][quote comment=”364051″]Paulo is becoming one of those fighters… the more you learn about them, hear from them, the less you like them.
Ie: Karo, Guillard[/quote]

Guillard Yes. Karo No. Karo is the freggin man. Love him or hate him, he brings fireworks, intensity, and a mean set of skills to the table. And he wins.

Paulo Filho trains with Anderson Silva’s camp. If they can’t right the ship with this guy, I dunno who can.

And yea..what was he on? Cocaine is a hellavuh drug![/quote]
Karo could be the most hated next to Tim Sylvia and Tito Ortiz. TABASCOsauce isn’t an abused substance is it?[/quote]

-when I first saw that tattoo of Mike Tyson on Filo’s arm… I thought what an idiot… I think he’s been way overrated and Sonnen would’ve taken it to him again. Hopefully he’ll get off drugs and get that Tyson Tattoo off his arm!

[quote post=”5324″]And yea..what was he on? Cocaine is a hellavuh drug! [/quote]
I didn’t use the cocaine to get high, I just liked the way it smelled. — Texas singer/songwriter Ray Wylie Hubbard said that.

How convenient! Sonnen must be pissed!! Maybe not though. It must be a good feeling knowing that an undefeated champion is scared to fight you.

I’m curious to know which substance he has a problem with. I’m pretty sure it’s not cronic. Blow?

Am I the only one who thinks that if this substance abuse proves to be true, that Paulo should be stripped of his title?

[quote comment=”364696″]Am I the only one who thinks that if this substance abuse proves to be true, that Paulo should be stripped of his title?[/quote]

I don’t think he should be stripped. Unless the substance gave him a advantege and it can be proven..if he was tested before/after his fight and found positive on an illegal substance.. and /or I feel if he had two or three title defenses set up and he pulled out due to this..then yeah. Whatever he is on..which I think is blow..is not helping him in any way.

I am getting really fed up with Paulo Filho. I think he is scared to deal with Sonnen again, this time there will not be early stoppage.

[quote comment=”364696″]Am I the only one who thinks that if this substance abuse proves to be true, that Paulo should be stripped of his title?[/quote]

I agree, I don’t think we need a drug addict representing the Middlewieght division of the WEC. I don’t think you have to worry if he fights Sonnen he will be striped of the title anyways.

Maybe this is just an excuse and he pulled out to get more time to get prepared, At first he said depression and i dont think it sat to well with the fans, so they decide to say that the match is not cancelled afterall, then BOOM!!! great idea your addicted to something the fans will forgive you for trying to get clean and you have a perfect excuse to postpone match. I mean what could he possibly be going thru?? I highly doubt it is any worse than Vitor Belfort’s horrible tragedy.
bt then again myb he is going thru some shit. who knows

Here is a link to view all the new DREAM belts. These belts look real nice. I hope JZ or Akoi walk away with one of them.

Heres the link. Just scroll down and u will see a bunch of pictures of the Official DREAMS belts:

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=748572

[quote comment=”364834″]Here is a link to view all the new DREAM belts. These belts look real nice. I hope JZ or Akoi walk away with one of them.

Heres the link. Just scroll down and u will see a bunch of pictures of the Official DREAMS belts:

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=748572/quote

Is this card going to be a ppv???

jesus tapdancing christ. it has to be coke or something stupid like pain killers or sleeping pills. He’s not skinny enough for cooked crack.

[quote comment=”364761″][quote comment=”364696″]Am I the only one who thinks that if this substance abuse proves to be true, that Paulo should be stripped of his title?[/quote]

I don’t think he should be stripped. Unless the substance gave him a advantege and it can be proven..if he was tested before/after his fight and found positive on an illegal substance.. and /or I feel if he had two or three title defenses set up and he pulled out due to this..then yeah. Whatever he is on..which I think is blow..is not helping him in any way.[/quote]

I just wished he could of pulled out…. hm.. let me say this again. I wished that this could of been done earlier so that Chael Sonnen could possibly fight for an interim belt instead of waiting till a mental midger gets his game back together.

I mean Matt Serra gets injured, and boom GSP steps up and we have a fight 29 days later. I understand it is 2 weeks, but I just think this is a blow to Chael Sonnen.

Why would you strip a guy of his title because he admitted he has a problem and is doing the responsible thing to get it taken care of? Pick up any book written in the last 10 years on the subject and read how addiction is a biological disorder, like a time bomb waiting to go off, and made worse if the person has a history of trauma or addiction in the family. Is it that hard to believe that someone who fights for a living has some personal demons?
I’m not comparing addiction to cancer, but addiction disorder is the only disease you get yelled at for having.
Sonnen also deserves the chance to move his career forward, so get an interim title fight going, give Filho some time to get clean, and bring him back when he’s ready.

[quote comment=”364936″][quote comment=”364761″][quote comment=”364696″]Am I the only one who thinks that if this substance abuse proves to be true, that Paulo should be stripped of his title?[/quote]

I don’t think he should be stripped. Unless the substance gave him a advantege and it can be proven..if he was tested before/after his fight and found positive on an illegal substance.. and /or I feel if he had two or three title defenses set up and he pulled out due to this..then yeah. Whatever he is on..which I think is blow..is not helping him in any way.[/quote]

I just wished he could of pulled out…. hm.. let me say this again. I wished that this could of been done earlier so that Chael Sonnen could possibly fight for an interim belt instead of waiting till a mental midger gets his game back together.

I mean Matt Serra gets injured, and boom GSP steps up and we have a fight 29 days later. I understand it is 2 weeks, but I just think this is a blow to Chael Sonnen.[/quote]

I agree with the point on Chael side..it sucks. Interim?? Nah..I didn’t agree with that when GSP/Hughes 3 was tagged with ” interim “..this is an odd situ..usually fighters pull out due to a physical injury..this is a mental one. A few weeks ago filho tried to pull out ” depression right “..it smelled funny..now we know why..but if he was granted the extention to fight in June..maybe Chael would of still had a match given to him.

How long does Paulo need to be clean before he can fight Cael and not test positive after the post-fight drug test? Depending on the timeline, I think Cael should get a June fight for some sort of belt whether it be interim or regular.

He is depressed because he cant take his ROIDS…

[quote comment=”364952″]Why would you strip a guy of his title because he admitted he has a problem and is doing the responsible thing to get it taken care of? Pick up any book written in the last 10 years on the subject and read how addiction is a biological disorder, like a time bomb waiting to go off, and made worse if the person has a history of trauma or addiction in the family. Is it that hard to believe that someone who fights for a living has some personal demons?
I’m not comparing addiction to cancer, but addiction disorder is the only disease you get yelled at for having.
Sonnen also deserves the chance to move his career forward, so get an interim title fight going, give Filho some time to get clean, and bring him back when he’s ready.[/quote]

Not all substance abuse is genetic, in fact it is extremely rare. You know the idiots who say, “I was addicted after the first ciggeret” never mind the fact that you body wants NOTHING to do with nicotine until after 6 straight months of usage. He dug himself into this hole, don’t feel sorry for him.(even if he does have an addictive personality, why the hell is he even trying that type of stuff?)

[quote comment=”364696″]Am I the only one who thinks that if this substance abuse proves to be true, that Paulo should be stripped of his title?[/quote]
i definently think he should, give that belt to someone who wants to stay clean and be a positive role model and trains there ass off. i know id be pissed if i spent my life trying to accomplish shit like this and the guy with the belt is blowing it.

Too bad. I wanted to see Sonnen work him. He should not be stripped if he can fight in june. Any later than that and he should be stripped.

I hope this means that he is officially out of any top ten lists.

I wish Fihlo luck. I know how hard what he is dealing with can be.

[quote comment=”364002″]And Sonnen get screwed yet again.[/quote]
Sonnen would have whooped his ass, that why he hit the pipe!

[quote comment=”365025″]He is depressed because he cant take his ROIDS…[/quote]
could be. that is a side affect. i usually ahte it when someone brings up roids w/ no proof or positive test, but like hendo stated they dont test in japan so how do we know. its like mlb when they didnt test. you dont know who was or wasn’t using. i think the only way to tell is when afighter suddenly underperforms badly when he fights where he has to be tested.

I still dont understand why all the Ex-Brazilian top team fighters are signed with one organization or another except for Riccardo Arona…please I dont want to hear any factless steroid allegations!

I bring this up because Filho is basically a mini arona with a slightly better stand up.

its without a doubt cocaine, a little more money into the pockets makes ya move up to the next expensive drug. he prob got hooked on it real quick gooin to those clubs and shit..

and if its weed, thats embarrassing!!

“your in here for some marijuana, get yaw ass out of hur boy”

a lot of athletes are into cocaine because its only in your system for 36 hours, whereas marijuana can be in your system for up to 6 weeks depending on the amount of body fat, physical activity, and metabolism. so with coke, they can use it all they want and not really have to worry about failing the pee pee test.

I dont know how anyone can judge Paulo by this. He is making the right decision, and going about things the right way. Not many people know what its like to deal with the stress and demons that fully focused professional athletes deal with. MMA fighters like Paulo have their diets and livelyhood down to a science, where they cant eat much outside of their diet, and training consumes their every being. Not having a release leads to things like Cocaine (which is easy for an MMA fighter, seeing as its out of your system in a short time) painkillers and other things. Lots and LOTS of MMA fighters have been addicted to substances, Bas Rutten is an amazing fighter, ever see the # of prescribed drugs in his drug test? Melvin and Ricco both got hit with Coke at one time or another. Does that make them bad men? No… Shit, I drink pretty frequently, dont know how well I could handle going from college drinking all the time, to being a pro athlete and not being able to due to training.

there is a lot more to think about here then just ‘what an asshole so-and-so is.’ I really feel bad for Paulo, and numerous other athletes that develope substance abuse, both legally and illegaly. Their life is definitely not an easy one.

I’m going to go out on a limb here and say it’s cocaine. Most of you guys seem to think so too. It’s hardly surprising if it is cocaine, it’s used far too much in a social context. All the big cheeses think it’s a rite of passage or something. Stupid inflated egos.

With all that being said, get well soon Paulo. Hope Anderson and Nog stick a pin in his head; deflate his ego then maybe we’ll see the best Paulo yet. Oh yeah, if he really wants prove himself, he should lose some mass and head to the UFC WW division. He won’t beat GSP though.

Sonnen did not get ripped off he’s barely another challenger if anything he’s getting more time to prepare. Paulo was probably already under a lot of pressure on his last fight and realized his performance was affected-smart fighter why fight if you’re not prepare-Why go to war if you’re unprepared.Paulo get ‘im boy.