Comments on: EliteXCs Gary Shaw responds to UFCs Dana White http://mmamania.com/2008/03/13/elitexcs-gary-shaw-responds-to-ufcs-dana-white/ UFC news, event schedules, fight analysis, Octagon predictions, UFC fighters and MMA thoughts Sat, 10 Jan 2009 04:48:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: DaGrizzlyBear http://mmamania.com/2008/03/13/elitexcs-gary-shaw-responds-to-ufcs-dana-white/#comment-366185 DaGrizzlyBear Sat, 15 Mar 2008 02:23:24 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/13/elitexcs-gary-shaw-responds-to-ufcs-dana-white/#comment-366185 Gary Shaw is just a jealous man...jealous that he will never be the major league..Dana White has made the UFC the elite organization it is today...he should have the respect of everyone in the MMA industry...but with great success comes great resentment! Gary Shaw is just a jealous man…jealous that he will never be the major league..Dana White has made the UFC the elite organization it is today…he should have the respect of everyone in the MMA industry…but with great success comes great resentment!

]]> By: b.w. http://mmamania.com/2008/03/13/elitexcs-gary-shaw-responds-to-ufcs-dana-white/#comment-365313 b.w. Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:54:12 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/13/elitexcs-gary-shaw-responds-to-ufcs-dana-white/#comment-365313 gary shaw loves the smell of his own farts. i wonder how much money cbs is gonna have to pay to get elitexc out of debt! probably alot. gary shaw loves the smell of his own farts. i wonder how much money cbs is gonna have to pay to get elitexc out of debt! probably alot.

]]> By: ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY! http://mmamania.com/2008/03/13/elitexcs-gary-shaw-responds-to-ufcs-dana-white/#comment-364811 ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY! Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:43:27 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/13/elitexcs-gary-shaw-responds-to-ufcs-dana-white/#comment-364811 BINGO........well said mr.shaw. BINGO……..well said mr.shaw.

]]> By: Emanuel0523 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/13/elitexcs-gary-shaw-responds-to-ufcs-dana-white/#comment-364127 Emanuel0523 Fri, 14 Mar 2008 05:00:20 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/13/elitexcs-gary-shaw-responds-to-ufcs-dana-white/#comment-364127 Gary Shaw is a Douche Bag! grow the sport yea right just like he helped grow Boxing. Gary Shaw is a Douche Bag! grow the sport yea right just like he helped grow Boxing.

]]> By: SaVaGe http://mmamania.com/2008/03/13/elitexcs-gary-shaw-responds-to-ufcs-dana-white/#comment-364103 SaVaGe Fri, 14 Mar 2008 04:43:13 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/13/elitexcs-gary-shaw-responds-to-ufcs-dana-white/#comment-364103 Any time we are debating the feud between the Presidents or owners of MMA organizations and not the fighters or fights, there is something wrong. Shaw may be baiting Tito, but remember Tito has been the most vocal about fighter pay for a long time...plus recently he says he would never sign with the UFC again because of what? - the way Dana treats fighters and the pay. It only makes sense that Shaw would mention Tito when arguing those points. Shaw is a snake, but I like the other organizations popping up and cross-promoting. Their shows and talent are not up to the UFC standard, but are getting better. Plus, if you have Showtime and HDNET you can see alot of MMA without having to wait for UFC FN and PPVs. I like the UFC the best, but I watch everything...give it some time. More promotions makes for better fights and competition for the UFC. Dana needs to be less visible, do more and say less, bury alot of hatchets and stop dropping F-bombs. The schtick sp? is getting old and overall, gives the UFC a black eye. Any time we are debating the feud between the Presidents or owners of MMA organizations and not the fighters or fights, there is something wrong.

Shaw may be baiting Tito, but remember Tito has been the most vocal about fighter pay for a long time…plus recently he says he would never sign with the UFC again because of what? - the way Dana treats fighters and the pay. It only makes sense that Shaw would mention Tito when arguing those points.

Shaw is a snake, but I like the other organizations popping up and cross-promoting. Their shows and talent are not up to the UFC standard, but are getting better. Plus, if you have Showtime and HDNET you can see alot of MMA without having to wait for UFC FN and PPVs. I like the UFC the best, but I watch everything…give it some time. More promotions makes for better fights and competition for the UFC.

Dana needs to be less visible, do more and say less, bury alot of hatchets and stop dropping F-bombs. The schtick sp? is getting old and overall, gives the UFC a black eye.

]]> By: broncos12405 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/13/elitexcs-gary-shaw-responds-to-ufcs-dana-white/#comment-363746 broncos12405 Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:12:50 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/13/elitexcs-gary-shaw-responds-to-ufcs-dana-white/#comment-363746 Gary Shaw doesn't know what he's talking about. I'm behind the UFC all the way, I hope they expose his bandwagon jumping ass for the fake he is Gary Shaw doesn’t know what he’s talking about. I’m behind the UFC all the way, I hope they expose his bandwagon jumping ass for the fake he is

]]> By: Automation http://mmamania.com/2008/03/13/elitexcs-gary-shaw-responds-to-ufcs-dana-white/#comment-363413 Automation Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:14:00 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/13/elitexcs-gary-shaw-responds-to-ufcs-dana-white/#comment-363413 [quote post="5312"]MMA god, sure that's exactely what I said. You took what i wrote and resaid it. As I said I am very well aware he's doing all of that for his business. That point that I tried to make that was clearly lost on you is that there is a very thin line between "doing what's best for MMA" and "doing what's best for UFC". The UFC is an MMA promotion. Wichever way you try to bash anybody's comment, there's no getting around that you can't promote UFC without promoting MMA. Pure and simple. You can try to make me out to be a Dana lover all you want. I'm a realist. And you basically agreed with me with your last 2 sentences so why the fuss?[/quote] Bane, Sorry I'm not bashing your comment. I'm merely generalising. I just quoted your comment to get my point across. Effectively, we are agreeing somewhat. I'm waiting on a comment to be moderated which further explains my point. [quote post=”5312″]MMA god, sure that’s exactely what I said. You took what i wrote and resaid it. As I said I am very well aware he’s doing all of that for his business. That point that I tried to make that was clearly lost on you is that there is a very thin line between “doing what’s best for MMA” and “doing what’s best for UFC”. The UFC is an MMA promotion. Wichever way you try to bash anybody’s comment, there’s no getting around that you can’t promote UFC without promoting MMA. Pure and simple. You can try to make me out to be a Dana lover all you want. I’m a realist. And you basically agreed with me with your last 2 sentences so why the fuss?[/quote]

Bane, Sorry I’m not bashing your comment. I’m merely generalising.

I just quoted your comment to get my point across. Effectively, we are agreeing somewhat.

I’m waiting on a comment to be moderated which further explains my point.

]]> By: Automation http://mmamania.com/2008/03/13/elitexcs-gary-shaw-responds-to-ufcs-dana-white/#comment-363357 Automation Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:48:48 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/13/elitexcs-gary-shaw-responds-to-ufcs-dana-white/#comment-363357 [quote comment="363204"]Automation. What was Dana supposed to do. Legalize the sport in nearly every state, then travel across to England, Ireland and Canada and then NOT make any money out of it?!?! That would be similar to a very early car manufacturer travelling to a country with no cars in it, showing everyone how amazing they are and then letting a different company sell cars instead. Is Dana an MMA advertiser? Is that his job? Hell no! Dana is awesome! Dana and the UFC are expanding becauseit will get MMA more well known and that means more money for them!! They are a company, but by expanding they are increasing the MMA fanbase... which is more than that large mouth in-it-only-for-the-money Gary Shaw. www.mmafacts.com Of course he is not only ding it for MMA. But he IS doing it for MMA AND for money!! You should be praising the bald man!! Dana White is awesome!!!!![/quote] UFC fan, you're missing me completely. I'm not knocking Dana for making money or expecting him not to make it. Dana is in it for the money and is not doing it for his passion of MMA. It just so happens that his business is MMA which makes him alot of money. So it is in his interest to promote MMA to make money and this is the only reason. Lets take the money aspect out of it. Lets assume that Dana can live the rest of his life with his current wealth (which he can), will he go to work, promote MMA for nothing??? Hell No!!! I already said.... "UFC is making mma more popular one way or another which can only be good for mma" I also indirectly praised Dana.... "Thankfully we have Dana selling a product we all love but don't insult us by making out Dana is a MMA god. He loves profit and so he should" If Dana loved MMA he would respect the fighters doing it, he certainly wouldn't go into the TUF house and wave his $10G's in front of the moneyless UFC wannabe's and get them to compete for something stupid purely for TV entertainment. Dana saw MMA as a 'NICHE' in the market and that is why he jumped on it, not because he loved it. His previous passion was boxing! Thanks to Dana's desire for money, we are seeing an explosion in the MMA market which is good for us as we see more and more fighters coming into the scene with ever improving fighters and more events. But PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do not say that Dana loves MMA. He loves his product which is a difference. Ford probably love their cars but drive about in Ferrari's [quote comment=”363204″]Automation. What was Dana supposed to do. Legalize the sport in nearly every state, then travel across to England, Ireland and Canada and then NOT make any money out of it?!?! That would be similar to a very early car manufacturer travelling to a country with no cars in it, showing everyone how amazing they are and then letting a different company sell cars instead. Is Dana an MMA advertiser? Is that his job? Hell no!

Dana is awesome!

Dana and the UFC are expanding becauseit will get MMA more well known and that means more money for them!! They are a company, but by expanding they are increasing the MMA fanbase… which is more than that large mouth in-it-only-for-the-money Gary Shaw. http://www.mmafacts.com

Of course he is not only ding it for MMA. But he IS doing it for MMA AND for money!! You should be praising the bald man!!

Dana White is awesome!!!!![/quote]

UFC fan, you’re missing me completely.

I’m not knocking Dana for making money or expecting him not to make it.

Dana is in it for the money and is not doing it for his passion of MMA. It just so happens that his business is MMA which makes him alot of money. So it is in his interest to promote MMA to make money and this is the only reason.

Lets take the money aspect out of it. Lets assume that Dana can live the rest of his life with his current wealth (which he can), will he go to work, promote MMA for nothing??? Hell No!!!

I already said…. “UFC is making mma more popular one way or another which can only be good for mma”

I also indirectly praised Dana…. “Thankfully we have Dana selling a product we all love but don’t insult us by making out Dana is a MMA god. He loves profit and so he should”

If Dana loved MMA he would respect the fighters doing it, he certainly wouldn’t go into the TUF house and wave his $10G’s in front of the moneyless UFC wannabe’s and get them to compete for something stupid purely for TV entertainment.

Dana saw MMA as a ‘NICHE’ in the market and that is why he jumped on it, not because he loved it.

His previous passion was boxing!

Thanks to Dana’s desire for money, we are seeing an explosion in the MMA market which is good for us as we see more and more fighters coming into the scene with ever improving fighters and more events.

But PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do not say that Dana loves MMA. He loves his product which is a difference.

Ford probably love their cars but drive about in Ferrari’s

]]> By: ufc results http://mmamania.com/2008/03/13/elitexcs-gary-shaw-responds-to-ufcs-dana-white/#comment-363292 ufc results Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:22:00 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/13/elitexcs-gary-shaw-responds-to-ufcs-dana-white/#comment-363292 Zuffa inherited the 35 million dollar deficit. Zuffa inherited the 35 million dollar deficit.

]]> By: idunnonadda http://mmamania.com/2008/03/13/elitexcs-gary-shaw-responds-to-ufcs-dana-white/#comment-363261 idunnonadda Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:09:50 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/03/13/elitexcs-gary-shaw-responds-to-ufcs-dana-white/#comment-363261 [quote comment="362584"]Ask Gary Shaw about how Gary Turner was treated. He was taken off a HW fight in Cage Rage he had scheduled, and he found out about it on the internet! Np call from the organization! Shaw's facts are wrong about the Spike deal. Spike did NOT bail them out of $35 mill debt. The UFC paid for the production of TUF1, and Spike agreed to air it! Shaw is your prototypical goomba promoter who's trying to make a buck in MMA. I'd take Dana over Shaw ANY DAY![/quote] how do you know this??? sources??? [quote comment=”362584″]Ask Gary Shaw about how Gary Turner was treated. He was taken off a HW fight in Cage Rage he had scheduled, and he found out about it on the internet! Np call from the organization!

Shaw’s facts are wrong about the Spike deal. Spike did NOT bail them out of $35 mill debt. The UFC paid for the production of TUF1, and Spike agreed to air it!

Shaw is your prototypical goomba promoter who’s trying to make a buck in MMA. I’d take Dana over Shaw ANY DAY![/quote]

how do you know this??? sources???

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