yes, people do train for fights.

J LAU BABY!

Its very interesting that BJ Penn said as much as he loves Joe Lauzon, he would want Joe to accept a fight against BJ Penn if Joe were to keep winning.

That is why BJ Penn is a true professional fighter, he will fight anyone, Freind or not, at any weight, anyTIME!

It baffles me how people can not be a fan of BJ Penn!

Matt lindland signed a deal with HDNET!

I just read a really interesting article about how Tim Sylvia, Arlovski, Koschek, Tito, and Swick all become free agents around the same time.

I have a feeling that the UFC is going to loose swick. After all, what has he done for us lately? Also signing Koschek will be a bigget priority and since Fitch, Kos and Swick all train together but fight in the same division(and refuse to fight each other) it seems as though Swick would be the last priority for the UFC!

sucks for Jens, Urijah is training with two guys that already beat him…

BJ Penn is good but hes gonna get owned by Sean Sherk. Sean Sherk has lost everything he had….he is probably training 10x harder than ever to smash him. BJ better work on his Cardio if he thinks hes going 5 rounds. He looked outta breath against Joe in the second round.

[quote comment="362911"]

It baffles me how people can not be a fan of BJ Penn![/quote]

Probably because he’s a prick.

bj will kick Sherk’s ass

You have to respect BJ for saying he would fight Joe for the title. I don’t understand these guys who train together that won’t fight each other. Lets say Finch gets the belt this year and Kos is the #1 contender. Would they really not fight each other? I bet they would.

BJ will win with some kind of crazy leg choke. He’ll probably bend and flex untill he invents a new submission.

bj will kick Sherk’s a**

I really hope BJ wins his fight against Sherk. I can’t stand to wait nearly a year between painfully boring fights if Sherk is champ again.

[quote comment="362947"]BJ will win with some kind of crazy leg choke. He’ll probably bend and flex untill he invents a new submission.[/quote]
I get what you’re saying, but you can’t really “choke” the leg. Then again, it’s BJ Penn so anything is possible.

urijah is a beast

[quote comment="362944"]You have to respect BJ for saying he would fight Joe for the title. I don’t understand these guys who train together that won’t fight each other. Lets say Finch gets the belt this year and Kos is the #1 contender. Would they really not fight each other? I bet they would.[/quote]
Koscheck has said multiple times that if the money and the situation were both right that they would most likely fight but unless it for the belt and alot of money i dont see the point in fighting one another.

Two great Champions training Exclusivly with Lauzon! He better destroy Ken-flo. It’s going to be a good fight!

[quote comment="362950"]I really hope BJ wins his fight against Sherk. I can’t stand to wait nearly a year between painfully boring fights if Sherk is champ again.[/quote]

Yeah me 2 I don’t want to see Sherk lay and pray the whole fight, hopefully BJ is training hard.

BJ will beat Sherk as long has he was worked on his cardio. Sherk will be looking to take it 5 rounds hoping that BJ will gas.

BJ with cardio will own Sherk, the next challenger (even if its J Lau)and then move up to WW for a war with GSP.

joe will Tko florian; 1st round

I would like to see BJ & Faber go at it….even if it’s only practice. I bet there are some crazy scrambles and exchanges of positioning!

these guys have to see something in joe lauzon i mean that is two top tier guys hes working with and his game has to be growing quick we could see some serious stuff from lauzon..build on that ko over jens
how did he lose to manny? really

[quote comment="362923"]BJ Penn is good but hes gonna get owned by Sean Sherk. Sean Sherk has lost everything he had….he is probably training 10x harder than ever to smash him. BJ better work on his Cardio if he thinks hes going 5 rounds. He looked outta breath against Joe in the second round.[/quote]

it doesnt even matter if sherk is training harder than bj really….ppl hate to admit it but training isnt everything..and bj holds a little thing called talent
hes not gonna let that fight go five rounds

[quote comment="362911"]Its very interesting that BJ Penn said as much as he loves Joe Lauzon, he would want Joe to accept a fight against BJ Penn if Joe were to keep winning.

That is why BJ Penn is a true professional fighter, he will fight anyone, Freind or not, at any weight, anyTIME!

It baffles me how people can not be a fan of BJ Penn![/quote]
Does this baffle you, at the infamous UFC 46 SuperNatural when BJ Penn upsets Hughes in the first round of their first fight the next fight on that card was between Charuto Verissimo Vs. Carlos Newton. Charuto wins and becomes the #1 contender for the welter weight belt the same belt BJ Penn had just won ten minutes earlier. BJ Penn leaves the UFC two weeks later (walks away from his title) when no agreement can be made to fight someone other than his best friend Charuto. Leaving Charuto with the chance to get the title for himself but losing to Hughes later on. Thats BJ Penn B*TCH! A FRIEND. And he wants Joe to go for his dreams also (but BJ aint leaving this time) and he still trains him knowing that they are in the same org, weight class, top 10 status. Its called friendship and BJ Penn knows something about it.

thats an awesome trio of fighters. after he lost i thought lil Evil was going to Hawaii to train with BJ.thats what he said in his post fight interveiw. i already thought Uriah is a great 145er training with these guys makes him even more dangerous.
Faber by sub. in the 2nd.
BJ PENN by sub. 3rd.
Ken-Flo by sub. 2nd.

IMO with a win Ken-Flo should get another title shot he hasnt lost since his fight with sean sherk.but i think BJ would win. Roger Huerta also deserves consideration.

[quote comment="363004"]I would like to see BJ & Faber go at it….even if it’s only practice. I bet there are some crazy scrambles and exchanges of positioning![/quote]

I bet BJ dominates Urijah on the ground- if you look at Urijah’s fights, he frequently makes big mistakes, where he’ll give up his back or something. He’s good at defending against the choke or submission once he’s in a bad spot, but the fact that he keeps finding himself in bad spots tells me he wouldn’t be UFC champ if they made a 145 division, and probably wouldn’t last too long against the heavier weight class fighters.

[quote comment="362983"][quote comment="362947"]BJ will win with some kind of crazy leg choke. He’ll probably bend and flex untill he invents a new submission.[/quote]
I get what you’re saying, but you can’t really “choke” the leg. Then again, it’s BJ Penn so anything is possible.[/quote]
No I mean BJ will choke Sherk with his legs lol.

[quote comment="363016"][quote comment="362983"][quote comment="362947"]BJ will win with some kind of crazy leg choke. He’ll probably bend and flex untill he invents a new submission.[/quote]
I get what you’re saying, but you can’t really “choke” the leg. Then again, it’s BJ Penn so anything is possible.[/quote]
No I mean BJ will choke Sherk with his legs lol.[/quote]
Got it.

BJ is going to sink the RNC and hold on to it well after Sherk desperately taps (accidentally of course)

I hope J-Lo owns K-Flo only because I am more excited about J-Lo. I also hope K-Flo continues to do well.

Is pretty cool seeing the best lightweight in the world (my opinion) training two guys who are definitly the future cream of the crop of the division.

LOL people still trying to predict MMA on here.

Classic.

[quote comment="363010"][quote comment="362911"]Its very interesting that BJ Penn said as much as he loves Joe Lauzon, he would want Joe to accept a fight against BJ Penn if Joe were to keep winning.

That is why BJ Penn is a true professional fighter, he will fight anyone, Freind or not, at any weight, anyTIME!

It baffles me how people can not be a fan of BJ Penn![/quote]
Does this baffle you, at the infamous UFC 46 SuperNatural when BJ Penn upsets Hughes in the first round of their first fight the next fight on that card was between Charuto Verissimo Vs. Carlos Newton. Charuto wins and becomes the #1 contender for the welter weight belt the same belt BJ Penn had just won ten minutes earlier. BJ Penn leaves the UFC two weeks later (walks away from his title) when no agreement can be made to fight someone other than his best friend Charuto. Leaving Charuto with the chance to get the title for himself but losing to Hughes later on. Thats BJ Penn B*TCH! A FRIEND. And he wants Joe to go for his dreams also (but BJ aint leaving this time) and he still trains him knowing that they are in the same org, weight class, top 10 status. Its called friendship and BJ Penn knows something about it.[/quote]

I think BJ Penn left after becoming the WW Champ..cuz of Dana White..and contract issues..He wanted at the time to fight Ludwig and Dana wasn’t haven’t any of that..To me regardless of his personality..weathly hawiian what not..if your a ” Fan ” of MMA..like John said..how are you not a fan of BJ’s..3 and half years to get BJJ blk belt respectfully..weeks after getting promoted to BLK blt..he goes to the mundials and wins in the Blk belt division without ever getting a point scored on him..thats like boxing for a few..going to the olimpics..winning the gold and never getting punched in the face.

Along side the legend Randy Couture he is a UFC Champ in 2 different weight classes..the guy fought Macida at LHW and loss in a decision..schooled Gomi..how many other MMA ufc or not..have his rez?? Nobody.

they’re gonna fight in hawaii. lol. learn how to compose sentences. this is how it should go. “BJ Penn, Joe Lauzon and Urijah Faber train in Hawaii for upcoming fights.” You people are hilarious.

[quote comment="362950"]I really hope BJ wins his fight against Sherk. I can’t stand to wait nearly a year between painfully boring fights if Sherk is champ again.[/quote]
Don’t worry he might accidently finsh someone.

That’s a top team there

I’d give a dollar to see how Faber does against Penn in training. Put Urijah and J-Lau together and they may equal the pressure that Sherk gives Penn.. and… lol… Penn still wins.

STRIKEFORCE has signed a deal with NBC!!!!!!!!

The UFC better have something brewing with FOX because it seems as though all the major networks are picking up MMA organizations and the UFC is being left in the dust.

[quote comment="363021"][quote comment="363016"][quote comment="362983"][quote comment="362947"]BJ will win with some kind of crazy leg choke. He’ll probably bend and flex untill he invents a new submission.[/quote]
I get what you’re saying, but you can’t really “choke” the leg. Then again, it’s BJ Penn so anything is possible.[/quote]
No I mean BJ will choke Sherk with his legs lol.[/quote]
Got it.[/quote]
Or Penn could choke Sherk with Sherk’s own legs. That would be super duper awesome.

[quote comment="363084"][quote comment="363010"][quote comment="362911"]Its very interesting that BJ Penn said as much as he loves Joe Lauzon, he would want Joe to accept a fight against BJ Penn if Joe were to keep winning.

That is why BJ Penn is a true professional fighter, he will fight anyone, Freind or not, at any weight, anyTIME!

It baffles me how people can not be a fan of BJ Penn![/quote]
Does this baffle you, at the infamous UFC 46 SuperNatural when BJ Penn upsets Hughes in the first round of their first fight the next fight on that card was between Charuto Verissimo Vs. Carlos Newton. Charuto wins and becomes the #1 contender for the welter weight belt the same belt BJ Penn had just won ten minutes earlier. BJ Penn leaves the UFC two weeks later (walks away from his title) when no agreement can be made to fight someone other than his best friend Charuto. Leaving Charuto with the chance to get the title for himself but losing to Hughes later on. Thats BJ Penn B*TCH! A FRIEND. And he wants Joe to go for his dreams also (but BJ aint leaving this time) and he still trains him knowing that they are in the same org, weight class, top 10 status. Its called friendship and BJ Penn knows something about it.[/quote]

I think BJ Penn left after becoming the WW Champ..cuz of Dana White..and contract issues..He wanted at the time to fight Ludwig and Dana wasn’t haven’t any of that..To me regardless of his personality..weathly hawiian what not..if your a ” Fan ” of MMA..like John said..how are you not a fan of BJ’s..3 and half years to get BJJ blk belt respectfully..weeks after getting promoted to BLK blt..he goes to the mundials and wins in the Blk belt division without ever getting a point scored on him..thats like boxing for a few..going to the olimpics..winning the gold and never getting punched in the face.

Along side the legend Randy Couture he is a UFC Champ in 2 different weight classes..the guy fought Macida at LHW and loss in a decision..schooled Gomi..how many other MMA ufc or not..have his rez?? Nobody.[/quote]

PhilQNy: Thanks for cleaning up my mess buddy. By the way Cheruto isnt just BJ’s freind he was BJ’s instructor….so dont come throwing out lame as facts to me like I aint never heard it already!

[quote comment="363154"]STRIKEFORCE has signed a deal with NBC!!!!!!!!

The UFC better have something brewing with FOX because it seems as though all the major networks are picking up MMA organizations and the UFC is being left in the dust.[/quote]

I heard that.

Other Orgs are pushing MMA to the front of the line too..everyone can contribute in the ther own way..I just not feeling when I’m watching Inside MMA..when they review a UFC event..they only sho pictures..while everyone else you see the fight…UFC be hatin..I’m not feeling them. UFCTV..UFC this UFC that..UFC my nuts…argh!!

The thing about MMA..it’s not baseball/MLB..Football/NFL..BBALL/NBA..MMA is a hybrid unique in the the way it landed in the U.S..and has grown..it went back b4 it went forward..with all types of growth spurts..UFC is a part of MMA..MMA is not a part of the UFC.

IFL..UFC..Dream..XC..StrikeForce..ROC..all the local to international orgs..is a part of MMA.

I want to see the best fighter’s fighting eachother regardless of the company..F’ that work together..stop hatin hard on eachother..

I HAVE A DREAM.. Roy Nelson vs Nog. IFL HH Champ vs UFC HH Champ. stuff like that.

[quote comment="363058"]LOL people still trying to predict MMA on here.

Classic.[/quote]

What’s wrong with that? I like to pick who I think will win certain fights, even though I realize that in MMA anything can happen.

[quote comment="363183"]Other Orgs are pushing MMA to the front of the line too..everyone can contribute in the ther own way..I just not feeling when I’m watching Inside MMA..when they review a UFC event..they only sho pictures..while everyone else you see the fight…UFC be hatin..I’m not feeling them. UFCTV..UFC this UFC that..UFC my nuts…argh!!

The thing about MMA..it’s not baseball/MLB..Football/NFL..BBALL/NBA..MMA is a hybrid unique in the the way it landed in the U.S..and has grown..it went back b4 it went forward..with all types of growth spurts..UFC is a part of MMA..MMA is not a part of the UFC.

IFL..UFC..Dream..XC..StrikeForce..ROC..all the local to international orgs..is a part of MMA.

I want to see the best fighter’s fighting eachother regardless of the company..F’ that work together..stop hatin hard on eachother..

I HAVE A DREAM.. Roy Nelson vs Nog. IFL HH Champ vs UFC HH Champ. stuff like that.[/quote]

AMEN!!! Preach on Brother! lol

I would love to see a ground war between Shinya akoi vs. BJ Penn.

I will have to settle for Akoi vs. JZ, not a bad consolation Prize. If I could only watch it live! Thank god for the internet! Hopefully I will be able to find some of the matches on the net early sunday morning.

[quote comment="362923"]BJ Penn is good but hes gonna get owned by Sean Sherk. Sean Sherk has lost everything he had….he is probably training 10x harder than ever to smash him. BJ better work on his Cardio if he thinks hes going 5 rounds. He looked outta breath against Joe in the second round.[/quote]

BJ has too much all around skill for Sherk. Sherk is a great fighter, but he is not in Penn’s class. When Penn is in shape he is the best in the world. Especially at 155 and 170. The only reason he has ever lost fights is because he ran out of gas.

[quote comment="362933"][quote comment="362911"]

It baffles me how people can not be a fan of BJ Penn![/quote]

Probably because he’s a prick.[/quote]

Ha ha, short and sweet… don’t be afraid to speak your mind!

Anyway i just met Chuck at a meet and greet in London. He was on good form and predicted a first round KO of rashad (i know thats what he always says).

I asked him who he wants out of Forest and Rampage and he said Rampage saying they had unfinished business.

I asked if a win against Rashad guaranted him a title shot and he laughed and said yes and implied thats what he has been told.

Oh and he is working on the location for the aftershow party!

[quote comment="363251"][quote comment="362923"]BJ Penn is good but hes gonna get owned by Sean Sherk. Sean Sherk has lost everything he had….he is probably training 10x harder than ever to smash him. BJ better work on his Cardio if he thinks hes going 5 rounds. He looked outta breath against Joe in the second round.[/quote]

BJ has too much all around skill for Sherk. Sherk is a great fighter, but he is not in Penn’s class. When Penn is in shape he is the best in the world. Especially at 155 and 170. The only reason he has ever lost fights is because he ran out of gas.[/quote]

and cause Matt Hughes put all his body weight on his ribs and they broke. We all know mma math doesnt work, but in all honesty sean sherk is just a mini-matt-hughes with better cardio. They have the same exact skill set. Sherk doesnt have anything Penn hasnt seen and the truth his everyone talks trash on BJ till they fight him, get submitted and then have that stupid look of Awe on their faces, liked what the hell was that? Unless sean sherk is training with Shinya akoi, he isnt going to find any training partners in the world that can mimck Sherk’s skill set. On the flipside: Sherk is the same old american wrestler who will go down in a long list of great mma wrestlers that have been made look silly by Bj Penn.

[quote comment="363273"]Anyway i just met Chuck at a meet and greet in London. He was on good form and predicted a first round KO of rashad (i know thats what he always says).

I asked him who he wants out of Forest and Rampage and he said Rampage saying they had unfinished business.

I asked if a win against Rashad guaranted him a title shot and he laughed and said yes and implied thats what he has been told.

Oh and he is working on the location for the aftershow party![/quote]

What a surpise. Dana just cant resist giving Chuck title shots and he is never going to beat Rampage. I can see it now:
UFC 120: “Never back Down” Champion Rampage Jackson vs. Chuck Liddell past 10. Rampage comes into this fight 9-0 against the Iceman, can Rampage make it 10-0?

Rampage is just going to keep KO’ing chuck as many times as the UFC wants. Rampage said he would love to fight Chuck again, because he gets paid a TON to beat Chuck and we all know Rampage LOVES his money!

[quote comment="363154"]STRIKEFORCE has signed a deal with NBC!!!!!!!!

The UFC better have something brewing with FOX because it seems as though all the major networks are picking up MMA organizations and the UFC is being left in the dust.[/quote]
They better do something soon, because people are getting tired of paying the increased price of their pay per views. They’re trying to push pay per views each month, just like WWE. UFN are good, this way the fighters could have more exposure, and the fans can see a lot of these hungry fighters moving up in the rankings. I’ve always said, pay per views should be limited to title, #1 contender, and grudge matches.

Faber’s the man! After he beats Pulver, he will be like Anderson Silva, a champ who has dominated his div. I’d like to see him move up to 155, and avenge his loss against Tyson Griffin, or Griffin moved down to 145…Fight of the year right there.

I would like to see Joe Lau cut down to 145 lb and fight Urijah. It wont ever happen but that would be one explosive match!

Joe Lauzon’s wild, nasty fighting style kind of reminds me of Dan henderson.

i cant wait for the jlau/[quote comment="363331"][quote comment="363273"]Anyway i just met Chuck at a meet and greet in London. He was on good form and predicted a first round KO of rashad (i know thats what he always says).

I asked him who he wants out of Forest and Rampage and he said Rampage saying they had unfinished business.

I asked if a win against Rashad guaranted him a title shot and he laughed and said yes and implied thats what he has been told.

Oh and he is working on the location for the aftershow party![/quote]

What a surpise. Dana just cant resist giving Chuck title shots and he is never going to beat Rampage. I can see it now:
UFC 120: “Never back Down” Champion Rampage Jackson vs. Chuck Liddell past 10. Rampage comes into this fight 9-0 against the Iceman, can Rampage make it 10-0?

Rampage is just going to keep KO’ing chuck as many times as the UFC wants. Rampage said he would love to fight Chuck again, because he gets paid a TON to beat Chuck and we all know Rampage LOVES his money![/quote]

-lol

In every picture Urijah looked completly lost and in a horrible position. Penn is just sooo freakin good, Sherk is DONE with.

i think bj penn is also getting some benefit, urijah faber is similar to sean sherk, in terms of size, athleticism, take downs, and build.

and faber gets to train with 2 people who have beat jens.

win/win

[quote comment="363149"]I’d give a dollar to see how Faber does against Penn in training. Put Urijah and J-Lau together and they may equal the pressure that Sherk gives Penn.. and… lol… Penn still wins.[/quote]
Faber could go to 155 and beat Sherk. Faber is a machine. Sherk would be in danger everywhere that fight went. Faber is way better on his feet and is a better wrestler than Sherk. Plus his cardio is at least as good as Sherk’s.

[quote comment="363167"][quote comment="363084"][quote comment="363010"][quote comment="362911"]Its very interesting that BJ Penn said as much as he loves Joe Lauzon, he would want Joe to accept a fight against BJ Penn if Joe were to keep winning.

That is why BJ Penn is a true professional fighter, he will fight anyone, Freind or not, at any weight, anyTIME!

It baffles me how people can not be a fan of BJ Penn![/quote]
Does this baffle you, at the infamous UFC 46 SuperNatural when BJ Penn upsets Hughes in the first round of their first fight the next fight on that card was between Charuto Verissimo Vs. Carlos Newton. Charuto wins and becomes the #1 contender for the welter weight belt the same belt BJ Penn had just won ten minutes earlier. BJ Penn leaves the UFC two weeks later (walks away from his title) when no agreement can be made to fight someone other than his best friend Charuto. Leaving Charuto with the chance to get the title for himself but losing to Hughes later on. Thats BJ Penn B*TCH! A FRIEND. And he wants Joe to go for his dreams also (but BJ aint leaving this time) and he still trains him knowing that they are in the same org, weight class, top 10 status. Its called friendship and BJ Penn knows something about it.[/quote]

I think BJ Penn left after becoming the WW Champ..cuz of Dana White..and contract issues..He wanted at the time to fight Ludwig and Dana wasn’t haven’t any of that..To me regardless of his personality..weathly hawiian what not..if your a ” Fan ” of MMA..like John said..how are you not a fan of BJ’s..3 and half years to get BJJ blk belt respectfully..weeks after getting promoted to BLK blt..he goes to the mundials and wins in the Blk belt division without ever getting a point scored on him..thats like boxing for a few..going to the olimpics..winning the gold and never getting punched in the face.

Along side the legend Randy Couture he is a UFC Champ in 2 different weight classes..the guy fought Macida at LHW and loss in a decision..schooled Gomi..how many other MMA ufc or not..have his rez?? Nobody.[/quote]

PhilQNy: Thanks for cleaning up my mess buddy. By the way Cheruto isnt just BJ’s freind he was BJ’s instructor….so dont come throwing out lame as facts to me like I aint never heard it already![/quote]
I thought your original comment read the other way round, i thought you wrote “I cant see how any ony can be a fan of BJ Penn” My bad, i was defending him to someone that was already defending him, much love man, ill get my glasses from now on LoL, BJ BJ BJ!!!

[quote comment="363764"][quote comment="363149"]I’d give a dollar to see how Faber does against Penn in training. Put Urijah and J-Lau together and they may equal the pressure that Sherk gives Penn.. and… lol… Penn still wins.[/quote]
Faber could go to 155 and beat Sherk. Faber is a machine. Sherk would be in danger everywhere that fight went. Faber is way better on his feet and is a better wrestler than Sherk. Plus his cardio is at least as good as Sherk’s.[/quote]

It is true that BJ Penn can, and probably will beat Sherk, but I don’t think Urijah would stand a chance. He is to small. And don’t forget that Urijah’s loss comes from Tyson Griffen. Does anyone think he could beat Sherk? I don’t.

BJ’s pictures all look way less intence then everyone elses… he looks like he’s some kind of weak ass, lazy out of shape person. And why the hell is he wear gloves to pull the rope and use the sledge hammer, everyone else isnt wearing gloves. LMAO he looks so pathetic in the pictures.

[quote post="5316"]I’d give a dollar to see how Faber does against Penn in training. Put Urijah and J-Lau together and they may equal the pressure that Sherk gives Penn.. and… lol… Penn still wins.

Faber could go to 155 and beat Sherk. Faber is a machine. Sherk would be in danger everywhere that fight went. Faber is way better on his feet and is a better wrestler than Sherk. Plus his cardio is at least as good as Sherk’s.

It is true that BJ Penn can, and probably will beat Sherk, but I don’t think Urijah would stand a chance. He is to small. And don’t forget that Urijah’s loss comes from Tyson Griffen. Does anyone think he could beat Sherk? I don’t. [/quote]

THats a joke is u tihnk faber would be sherk. Especially to say faber’s cardio is better, no way. Sherks one of the hardest training athletes in the world, they even said it on tv. Sherks way to intence than faber as well as 30 pounds heavier than him on a normal day.

http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/view_image.php?id=24745

BJ with gloves and walking like a little bitch when he should be running.

California Kid in Hawaii? Man…he’s already dominating at 145…now has the camp that includes Lauzon and Penn?

I actually do wonder how good a camp with BJ Penn could acutally be. If you see the guy, he’s so naturally flexible. You can’t teach flexibility. So the techniques BJ teaches these guys can never be on par or close to par with BJ’s.

I think a Militech type camp could make an ordinary guy fight better. But, could a Penn type camp make a good fighter even greater? Couture’s maybe.

Sherk probably isnt going to stand with Penn, and Penn’s only weakness is his takedown defense. I wonder how long Penn can hold out on the ground once Sherk gets him there.

[quote comment="364164"]Sherk probably isnt going to stand with Penn, and Penn’s only weakness is his takedown defense. I wonder how long Penn can hold out on the ground once Sherk gets him there.[/quote]

What??? Penn’s only weakness is his takedown defense?? Is that a typo?? I sure hope it is because Penn is one of the hardest guys to takedown in MMA period. Please don’t bring up the fight against GSP because I will admit that BJ wasn’t in excellent condition for that fight. If anything Penn’s only weakness(if any) is his will to be in top shape come fight time. After the loss against Hughes, we all know that Penn vowed to take training seriously. Come on bro, fill me in on why in all aspects of Penn’s game, his only weakness is his takedown defense cuz that’s crazy..

[quote comment="364046"][quote post="5316"]I’d give a dollar to see how Faber does against Penn in training. Put Urijah and J-Lau together and they may equal the pressure that Sherk gives Penn.. and… lol… Penn still wins.

Faber could go to 155 and beat Sherk. Faber is a machine. Sherk would be in danger everywhere that fight went. Faber is way better on his feet and is a better wrestler than Sherk. Plus his cardio is at least as good as Sherk’s.

It is true that BJ Penn can, and probably will beat Sherk, but I don’t think Urijah would stand a chance. He is to small. And don’t forget that Urijah’s loss comes from Tyson Griffen. Does anyone think he could beat Sherk? I don’t. [/quote]

THats a joke is u tihnk faber would be sherk. Especially to say faber’s cardio is better, no way. Sherks one of the hardest training athletes in the world, they even said it on tv. Sherks way to intence than faber as well as 30 pounds heavier than him on a normal day.[/quote]
I saw a picture at what looked like a grappling competition and Faber was RNCing Rampage Jackson to sleep . . .

[quote comment="364223"][quote comment="364164"]Sherk probably isnt going to stand with Penn, and Penn’s only weakness is his takedown defense. I wonder how long Penn can hold out on the ground once Sherk gets him there.[/quote]

What??? Penn’s only weakness is his takedown defense?? Is that a typo?? I sure hope it is because Penn is one of the hardest guys to takedown in MMA period. Please don’t bring up the fight against GSP because I will admit that BJ wasn’t in excellent condition for that fight. If anything Penn’s only weakness(if any) is his will to be in top shape come fight time. After the loss against Hughes, we all know that Penn vowed to take training seriously. Come on bro, fill me in on why in all aspects of Penn’s game, his only weakness is his takedown defense cuz that’s crazy..[/quote]

I’vo got to say ‘C-war’ that I totally agree with ‘Punishment’.

What are you on? To say “I wonder how long Penn can hold out on the ground once Sherk gets him there?” baffles me.

Who ever is fighting BJ, it doesn’t matter.

BJ Penn is dangerous Standing, on his back, sitting, sleeping or taking a s@#t.

Sherk won’t be a problem on top, if he gets or keeps it there, which I doubt.

too bad for joe lauzon he’s training hard & will gonna lost to kennflo any way

i think the only way sherk would beat penn is to outwork & out cardio him so penn will be gassed.but as long as BJ penn has enough cardio to go with sherk in 5 rounds, i cant see a problem for penn in this one,sherk didnt finish florian, didnt finish spranca,etc, so he will not finish penn,

sherk is a lesser skill type of matt huges,& penn destroy hughes in 1st fight.

[quote comment="363878"][quote comment="363167"][quote comment="363084"][quote comment="363010"][quote comment="362911"]Its very interesting that BJ Penn said as much as he loves Joe Lauzon, he would want Joe to accept a fight against BJ Penn if Joe were to keep winning.

That is why BJ Penn is a true professional fighter, he will fight anyone, Freind or not, at any weight, anyTIME!

It baffles me how people can not be a fan of BJ Penn![/quote]
Does this baffle you, at the infamous UFC 46 SuperNatural when BJ Penn upsets Hughes in the first round of their first fight the next fight on that card was between Charuto Verissimo Vs. Carlos Newton. Charuto wins and becomes the #1 contender for the welter weight belt the same belt BJ Penn had just won ten minutes earlier. BJ Penn leaves the UFC two weeks later (walks away from his title) when no agreement can be made to fight someone other than his best friend Charuto. Leaving Charuto with the chance to get the title for himself but losing to Hughes later on. Thats BJ Penn B*TCH! A FRIEND. And he wants Joe to go for his dreams also (but BJ aint leaving this time) and he still trains him knowing that they are in the same org, weight class, top 10 status. Its called friendship and BJ Penn knows something about it.[/quote]

I think BJ Penn left after becoming the WW Champ..cuz of Dana White..and contract issues..He wanted at the time to fight Ludwig and Dana wasn’t haven’t any of that..To me regardless of his personality..weathly hawiian what not..if your a ” Fan ” of MMA..like John said..how are you not a fan of BJ’s..3 and half years to get BJJ blk belt respectfully..weeks after getting promoted to BLK blt..he goes to the mundials and wins in the Blk belt division without ever getting a point scored on him..thats like boxing for a few..going to the olimpics..winning the gold and never getting punched in the face.

Along side the legend Randy Couture he is a UFC Champ in 2 different weight classes..the guy fought Macida at LHW and loss in a decision..schooled Gomi..how many other MMA ufc or not..have his rez?? Nobody.[/quote]

PhilQNy: Thanks for cleaning up my mess buddy. By the way Cheruto isnt just BJ’s freind he was BJ’s instructor….so dont come throwing out lame as facts to me like I aint never heard it already![/quote]
I thought your original comment read the other way round, i thought you wrote “I cant see how any ony can be a fan of BJ Penn” My bad, i was defending him to someone that was already defending him, much love man, ill get my glasses from now on LoL, BJ BJ BJ!!![/quote]

Its all good Adam G, I thought we were on the same page. I didnt understand what we were even arguing over. Its all good. A BJ Penn Fan is a knowledagble mma fan….so CHEERS!

[quote comment="364614"][quote comment="364223"][quote comment="364164"]Sherk probably isnt going to stand with Penn, and Penn’s only weakness is his takedown defense. I wonder how long Penn can hold out on the ground once Sherk gets him there.[/quote]

What??? Penn’s only weakness is his takedown defense?? Is that a typo?? I sure hope it is because Penn is one of the hardest guys to takedown in MMA period. Please don’t bring up the fight against GSP because I will admit that BJ wasn’t in excellent condition for that fight. If anything Penn’s only weakness(if any) is his will to be in top shape come fight time. After the loss against Hughes, we all know that Penn vowed to take training seriously. Come on bro, fill me in on why in all aspects of Penn’s game, his only weakness is his takedown defense cuz that’s crazy..[/quote]

I’vo got to say ‘C-war’ that I totally agree with ‘Punishment’.

What are you on? To say “I wonder how long Penn can hold out on the ground once Sherk gets him there?” baffles me.

Who ever is fighting BJ, it doesn’t matter.

BJ Penn is dangerous Standing, on his back, sitting, sleeping or taking a s@#t.

Sherk won’t be a problem on top, if he gets or keeps it there, which I doubt.[/quote]

I agree. I would mess wit BJ when he is taking a sh*t! lol
I think people are going to see an ever new and improved BJ than we did against Joe-daddy! We are very lucky to have Penn as our lightweight champion, with his new found commitment to excellence, I expect him to be as dominant of a champion as Anderson Silva is, and in a year, all the haters will finaly recognize him for the amazing talent that he is!

BJ Penn is the epitamy of a great P 4 P fighter!

Seriously BJ took GSP the distance in an epic fight, and do you really think that Matt Hughes would have beaten BJ if he hadn’t cracked a rib in their last fight. If you do you need to watch the fight again. All Sherk has is power against BJ, same as he did against Florian and Franca, and they took him the distance. His strength might help him take BJ down, but BJ is going to win the fight any way he chooses to.

[quote comment="365020"]Seriously BJ took GSP the distance in an epic fight, and do you really think that Matt Hughes would have beaten BJ if he hadn’t cracked a rib in their last fight. If you do you need to watch the fight again. All Sherk has is power against BJ, same as he did against Florian and Franca, and they took him the distance. His strength might help him take BJ down, but BJ is going to win the fight any way he chooses to.[/quote]

AMEN!!!

[quote comment="365167"][quote comment="365020"]Seriously BJ took GSP the distance in an epic fight, and do you really think that Matt Hughes would have beaten BJ if he hadn’t cracked a rib in their last fight. If you do you need to watch the fight again. All Sherk has is power against BJ, same as he did against Florian and Franca, and they took him the distance. His strength might help him take BJ down, but BJ is going to win the fight any way he chooses to.[/quote]

AMEN!!![/quote]
WORD!!! And BJ has faught Machida at 205 right after he knocked out Franklin and machida is 6′1 so the strength issue, ehhh not so much an issue, BJ has read this book already ya dig . . .

[quote comment="363014"][quote comment="363004"]I would like to see BJ & Faber go at it….even if it’s only practice. I bet there are some crazy scrambles and exchanges of positioning![/quote]

I bet BJ dominates Urijah on the ground- if you look at Urijah’s fights, he frequently makes big mistakes, where he’ll give up his back or something. He’s good at defending against the choke or submission once he’s in a bad spot, but the fact that he keeps finding himself in bad spots tells me he wouldn’t be UFC champ if they made a 145 division, and probably wouldn’t last too long against the heavier weight class fighters.[/quote]

Yeah, you may be right, but I would still like to see them go at it full speed. I’m not saying Faber would stand a chance, but I think it would be fun to watch.

Why is it that every time I see a photo of BJ he is sitting down watching other people do work? He was always doing that in the TUF show when he coached too! I guess if I was fat and out of shape like him I would be doing the same thing…he gets winded walking to the door at McDonalds!

BJ PENN IS GONNA SMASH THE MUSSLEROID SHARK

[quote comment="365449"]Why is it that every time I see a photo of BJ he is sitting down watching other people do work? He was always doing that in the TUF show when he coached too! I guess if I was fat and out of shape like him I would be doing the same thing…he gets winded walking to the door at McDonalds![/quote]
LoL, click the link and look at the other pictures, the ones of him working over everyone in the gym.

[quote comment="365566"][quote comment="365449"]Why is it that every time I see a photo of BJ he is sitting down watching other people do work? He was always doing that in the TUF show when he coached too! I guess if I was fat and out of shape like him I would be doing the same thing…he gets winded walking to the door at McDonalds![/quote]
LoL, click the link and look at the other pictures, the ones of him working over everyone in the gym.[/quote]

No need to back up Penn adamng, grizzly bear is obviously a hater..

[quote comment="365566"][quote comment="365449"]Why is it that every time I see a photo of BJ he is sitting down watching other people do work? He was always doing that in the TUF show when he coached too! I guess if I was fat and out of shape like him I would be doing the same thing…he gets winded walking to the door at McDonalds![/quote]
LoL, click the link and look at the other pictures, the ones of him working over everyone in the gym.[/quote]
haha serious, every picture Penn is in he is dominating the other guy. Penn vs. GSP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think as much advantage as I give Penn on teh feet, I give him an even bigger advantage on the ground, his grappling is phenomanal.

Here is the question, who is better(translating to MMA), Penn at BJJ, or Anderson at striking?

[quote comment="365975"]Here is the question, who is better(translating to MMA), Penn at BJJ, or Anderson at striking?[/quote]

That’s a super hard one. I would have to say that

[quote comment="365975"]Here is the question, who is better(translating to MMA), Penn at BJJ, or Anderson at striking?[/quote]

The thing that is so crazy is that Penn’s BJJ is so great, that people often overlook his excellent striking abilities. Just like people forget that Silva is a blackbelt in BJJ, because most of his matches have ended in devastating KO’s. I can’t even pick which fighter posseses the greater ability. I really want to see someone to reply and give an answer to this question who is knowledgeable and unbiased on this sublect

[quote comment="365972"][quote comment="365566"][quote comment="365449"]Why is it that every time I see a photo of BJ he is sitting down watching other people do work? He was always doing that in the TUF show when he coached too! I guess if I was fat and out of shape like him I would be doing the same thing…he gets winded walking to the door at McDonalds![/quote]
LoL, click the link and look at the other pictures, the ones of him working over everyone in the gym.[/quote]
haha serious, every picture Penn is in he is dominating the other guy. Penn vs. GSP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think as much advantage as I give Penn on teh feet, I give him an even bigger advantage on the ground, his grappling is phenomanal.[/quote]
Have you not watched GSP? He wouldn’t be taken down…he would be taking BJ down and working him over! GSP is probably the best wrestler in the UFC and the man has NO wrestling background…he is so good though that Canada asked him to wrestle in the Olympics for them! BJ would just be another notch in GSP’s belt of superstars that he has destroyed…if the fight did somehow get to the 2nd round…BJ would be gassed…the man has no cardio or stamina…and I am not real impressed with him dominating people at his gym…its HIS gym…I would hope he would be better then the people he is schooling…I know one thing though…I bet BJ took alot of “Burger Breaks” in between sparring!

Dagrizzlybear:

For one, I was unclear, the advantage I was giving BJ in the ground was against Sherk in his upcoming fight, I was merely saying I want to seee him fight GSP.
And NO, why would you want to be able to school everyone at you’r gym, what a great workout that would be if you can school everybody right? Penn brings in new faces all the time, doesnt matter who he schools them all. And they come to him, he doesnt actally bring them in, like faber, like hermes, and joe.

Yeah and let me read back you’r logic to you and see how smart this sounds……..So basically, An out of shape Penn went all 3 rounds with GSP, inflicting more damage on GSP then viceversa, however, now that Penn is actually TRAINING, GSP will beat him in round 1. Man, your a genuine philosopher.

[quote comment="366154"][quote comment="365972"][quote comment="365566"][quote comment="365449"]Why is it that every time I see a photo of BJ he is sitting down watching other people do work? He was always doing that in the TUF show when he coached too! I guess if I was fat and out of shape like him I would be doing the same thing…he gets winded walking to the door at McDonalds![/quote]
LoL, click the link and look at the other pictures, the ones of him working over everyone in the gym.[/quote]
haha serious, every picture Penn is in he is dominating the other guy. Penn vs. GSP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think as much advantage as I give Penn on teh feet, I give him an even bigger advantage on the ground, his grappling is phenomanal.[/quote]
Have you not watched GSP? He wouldn’t be taken down…he would be taking BJ down and working him over! GSP is probably the best wrestler in the UFC and the man has NO wrestling background…he is so good though that Canada asked him to wrestle in the Olympics for them! BJ would just be another notch in GSP’s belt of superstars that he has destroyed…if the fight did somehow get to the 2nd round…BJ would be gassed…the man has no cardio or stamina…and I am not real impressed with him dominating people at his gym…its HIS gym…I would hope he would be better then the people he is schooling…I know one thing though…I bet BJ took alot of “Burger Breaks” in between sparring![/quote]
LoL again at you man, so GSP destroyed BJ Penn?? LoLLL!!!! About as much as Matt Serra destroyed GSP, oh wait, Matt Serra did destroy GSP . . . And im a GSP fan but im gonna hit a hatter where they hate to be hit, grizz is an obvious and bias GSP fan. Destroyed BJ, HaHaHaaHHHHAAaaaahaahhahahahah! HA!

[quote comment="365975"]Here is the question, who is better(translating to MMA), Penn at BJJ, or Anderson at striking?[/quote]

No doubt in my mind, Penn at BJJ.

I’ve never seen anyone with BJJ that is close to Penn’s.

I’ve seen better or equal striking than Silva’s.

Not taking anything away from Silva.

[quote comment="362923"]BJ Penn is good but hes gonna get owned by Sean Sherk. Sean Sherk has lost everything he had….he is probably training 10x harder than ever to smash him. BJ better work on his Cardio if he thinks hes going 5 rounds. He looked outta breath against Joe in the second round.[/quote]
lmao, nobody’s ever owned Penn even in all his losses he was handing out a beatdown before getting tired! And bj penn at 155 has no choice but to be in shape! Sherk has only finished 2 guys in the ufc (nobody’s at that) the rest are all descision wins! Penn finishes fights!

[quote comment="365566"][quote comment="365449"]Why is it that every time I see a photo of BJ he is sitting down watching other people do work? He was always doing that in the TUF show when he coached too! I guess if I was fat and out of shape like him I would be doing the same thing…he gets winded walking to the door at McDonalds![/quote]
LoL, click the link and look at the other pictures, the ones of him working over everyone in the gym.[/quote]
What do you think bj post’s these video’s to impress you or something, this aint ufc all access how do you know he aint been training for 8 hours straight by then! Pass judgment after a few minute video and your foolin yourself bj is naturally about 180 he has to be in shape to make 155!

[quote comment="364046"][quote post="5316"]I’d give a dollar to see how Faber does against Penn in training. Put Urijah and J-Lau together and they may equal the pressure that Sherk gives Penn.. and… lol… Penn still wins.

Faber could go to 155 and beat Sherk. Faber is a machine. Sherk would be in danger everywhere that fight went. Faber is way better on his feet and is a better wrestler than Sherk. Plus his cardio is at least as good as Sherk’s.

It is true that BJ Penn can, and probably will beat Sherk, but I don’t think Urijah would stand a chance. He is to small. And don’t forget that Urijah’s loss comes from Tyson Griffen. Does anyone think he could beat Sherk? I don’t. [/quote]

THats a joke is u tihnk faber would be sherk. Especially to say faber’s cardio is better, no way. Sherks one of the hardest training athletes in the world, they even said it on tv. Sherks way to intence than faber as well as 30 pounds heavier than him on a normal day.[/quote]
its easy to train harder than the rest of the world on roids, how else do you think he got muscles in his earlobes…….from creatine!

bj penn/ uriah faber/ gina corano
best in the world
give anything to train with them
but how are you supposed to train when you cant afford it
or get anywhere
everyone deserves a chance
how r u supposed to get vaughan.junio5@gmail.com