I dont want to hear that he is TRYING to fix the problem, just do whatever is necessary to get Andre back inside the octagon, prefferably to a 6 fight deal. Then I need Dana to start using him better. That means having him fight regularly (every 4-6 months) andf having him fight in meaningful match ups. If the UFC doesnt land Fedor or Couture than I would like to see Andre vs. Nogueira for the title, not because I think that Arlovski has earned a title shot, but because he is the best possible opponent for Nogueira, that would make it a really big UFC title fight.
Andre versus Kong would be an awesome match. Arlovski would definately need to bring it to that fight. Kongo would have beaten Nog if he had fought instead of Sylvia. Unlike Sylvia Kongo does not mind taking chances and going in for the kill, something that if Sylvia had done in the early rounds, he would have probably won the fight. Kongo v Arlovski definately.
“If that were the case, I’d have Tito Ortiz fighting at 1 o’clock in the F’ing afternoon” LOL
Even thought Andrei has not been the “Pitbull” as of late, he still deserves to be in the UFC and the UFC HW division can really use him at this point in time.
If they don’t re-sign Arlovski, then that means that, at the moment, they don’t have:
Randy Couture
Fedor Emelianenko
Josh Barnett
Andrei Arlovski
And they would have:
Big Nog
Tim Sylvia
That means that the UFC would only have 2 of the top 6 HW fighters. And that is inluding Timmay as a Top 6 fighter.
[quote comment=”360252″] Kongo would have beaten Nog if he had fought instead of Sylvia.
No way Kongo would of beaten Big Nog..I’m not a big Tim Slyvia fan..but he did go at Nog..he tried to finsih..I give him that..look at Nog rez..you think he is out and done..then..tap tap tap..he won via submission. IMo..no way Kongo can F’ especially if he wants to do his new thing..wrestling..and take Nog to the deck.
[quote post=”5303″]Andre versus Kong would be an awesome match. Arlovski would definately need to bring it to that fight. Kongo would have beaten Nog if he had fought instead of Sylvia. Unlike Sylvia Kongo does not mind taking chances and going in for the kill, something that if Sylvia had done in the early rounds, he would have probably won the fight. Kongo v Arlovski definately.[/quote]
Kongo would have beaten Big Nog? How do you suppose he’d win that fight, but can’t muster a win against Heath Herring. Kongo and Gonzaga are both highly over-rated since beating Cro Cop. Neither of them ever deserved to be in the top 10 and it shows in thier most recent performances. Kongo would be in way over his head with any top 10 Heavyweight fighter, especially Nog and Arlovski. Heath Herring said it best,”if this was a body building competition Kongo would win all his fights.”
Glad AA is in the news, and hopeful Dana has realized he needs him now. He seems to know he made a mistake by pushing him aside when Randy returned, and especially by thinking he did not need him anymore when Cro Cop arrived. He thought he had a better version of AA in CC, but that has always been false. Let’s see what happens…
Arlovski has not been himself yes, but he has won his last 3 its the same deal with Machida the dude is not that entertaining but hes undefeated so he must be doing something right. The thing is Arlovski had the fire and nothing to loose mentality afew years back but after losing championship to Tim he bacame kinda gun shy like crocop but im sure we will see the PITBULL if Dana resigns which he better and fucking give the man more money if thats what he wants. Arlovski sells PPV and has a large fan base more so than : Gonzaga, Werdum, Kongo, etc… And im sorry but putting him in the undercard and Leben in PPV was bullshit, and AA girl said that they didnt even give her a ticket im sure that did not sit well with AA. anywho Dana get it done
It was nice to hear Dana express some humility. Also, AA comes across as a classy guy. Talk about a contrast between Tito’s attitude and the outlook of AA.
They should keep AA.. he’s the only one that doesn’t complain that… and the reason why he’s been lackin is because they keep putting him up against ground guyz.. its not his fault they dont’ want to stand with him…. the last guy didn’t even stand with him for 2 sec’s.. and fabrico verdum slapped him!! actually slapped him in the middle fight then went on the ground and told him to come down to him….. so put him up against a stand up guy and for sure the pitbull will be back
[quote comment=”360359″]They should keep AA.. he’s the only one that doesn’t complain that… and the reason why he’s been lackin is because they keep putting him up against ground guyz.. its not his fault they dont’ want to stand with him…. the last guy didn’t even stand with him for 2 sec’s.. and fabrico verdum slapped him!! actually slapped him in the middle fight then went on the ground and told him to come down to him….. so put him up against a stand up guy and for sure the pitbull will be back[/quote]
Arlovski and Herring might be an exciting match up.
I sincerely hope to see Andrei back in the octagon… and soon. He’s one of the fighters who originally got me into MMA.[/quote]
Me TOO!!! I was so used to watching crappy over-weight under fit boxers throw 2 or 3 punches per round in HW I wondered why they bothered with the division… then I saw AA in the UFC HW div and I was like oh F***… no more boxing for me, I have pitbull fights to watch!
i really hope they give him a contract extension soon. it would be a damn shame if they let someone else sign him. the UFC needs him.if Randy wont fight Big Nog then the PITBULL should get the next title shot.
What about AA vs Mir? I know his last win was against Lesnar, but he did look better than he has since his motorcycle accident. No one here is really talking about Mir as a possible contender if he wins his next couple of fights. He definately has a better chance of getting a title shot than Herring or Kongo. Personally, I would like to see AA fight Kongo (great stand up match) next, with Mir re-matching Sylvia or fighting Gonzaga in his next match. If both win, fight each other for a title shot with Nog. Either way, if AA stays in the UFC it would be nice to see the two former champs go at it.
Hope to see Arlovski back in the UFC and he should get a title shot against Big Nog. He has won his last 3 fights, his last against Jake O’Brien who beat Heath Herring. If Alovski fights any of the other HW guys and loses than the Heavyweight division is stuck with no viable contenders that have won consecutive fights or are big draws with fans.
On another note I wonder what Tito’s going to say in his post fight interview at UFC 84. If they give him the chance to speak that is.
With everything going on right now in the HW division, it seems like Dana is starting to realize how valuable AA is. I really hope they work something out.
AA re-signs, then Fedor signs, Couture comes out of retirement. Ahhh, the HW division will be dominant again!
Forgot about Frank Mir. Mir vs Arlovski could set up a title fight with Frank coming off a big win against Lesnar. Brandon Vera needs to get some W’s starting with Werdum at UFC85 and could be in the mix if he strings wins against Herring, Kongo etc
[quote comment=”360210″]I dont want to hear that he is TRYING to fix the problem, just do whatever is necessary to get Andre back inside the octagon, prefferably to a 6 fight deal. Then I need Dana to start using him better. That means having him fight regularly (every 4-6 months) andf having him fight in meaningful match ups. If the UFC doesnt land Fedor or Couture than I would like to see Andre vs. Nogueira for the title, not because I think that Arlovski has earned a title shot, but because he is the best possible opponent for Nogueira, that would make it a really big UFC title fight.[/quote]
i want to know where nbc gets these retards to run the show.. that guy knew nothing bout anything. everyone on here knows that the rampage forrest fight is in august not july.
AA is boring and doesn’t deserve the money that he is surely asking for. Dana needs to keep him because the HW division is anemic, but AA basically functions as life support for a division on the verge of death.
WAR ARLOVSKI! I am happy to see Dana admitting to his mistakes instead of making excuses for them. UFC is the the only ticket in town but to keep it that way Dana is going to be forced to keep his fighters happier and loyal.
[quote post=”5303″]On another note I wonder what Tito’s going to say in his post fight interview at UFC 84. If they give him the chance to speak that is. [/quote]
You have to win to get the post-fight interview, and Tito ain’t beating Machida.
[quote comment=”360475″][quote post=”5303″]On another note I wonder what Tito’s going to say in his post fight interview at UFC 84. If they give him the chance to speak that is. [/quote]
You have to win to get the post-fight interview, and Tito ain’t beating Machida.[/quote]
Agreed.
[quote comment=”360269″]”If that were the case, I’d have Tito Ortiz fighting at 1 o’clock in the F’ing afternoon” LOL
Even thought Andrei has not been the “Pitbull” as of late, he still deserves to be in the UFC and the UFC HW division can really use him at this point in time.
If they don’t re-sign Arlovski, then that means that, at the moment, they don’t have:
Randy Couture
Fedor Emelianenko
Josh Barnett
Andrei Arlovski
And they would have:
Big Nog
Tim Sylvia
That means that the UFC would only have 2 of the top 6 HW fighters. And that is inluding Timmay as a Top 6 fighter.[/quote]
Barnett is not top 6. He got creamed by Mirko twice. The UFC DOES in fact have Randy Couture, like it or not.
I hope AA comes back, but if he doesn’t it is his own fault. He really screwed himself with his past few performances.
I agree AA hasn’t exactly been a “pitbull” as of late, but I don’t fully blame him in his last three fights. The fight vs Cruz wasn’t boring at all. It just had a weird finish. Werdum was boring, but I can’t blame him for not wanting to go to the ground against him. And I blame Jake O’Brien more then AA for the last fight. O’Brien tried exactly one thing over and over and over. Take down attempt…then hopefully hold AA down. And I’m sure AA knew if O’Brien did get on top then it would lead to a boring decision loss. Luckily he was able to fend it off then finish though. That’s something Herring wasn’t able to do.
if they would just put him in there w/ someone who would bring it to andre, we might see the pitbull again. pe depano, werdum and obrien didnt do that. i think nog, herring, gonzaga, and kongo would fit the bill, preferably nog because i can tell he is a proud champion.
[quote comment=”360490″]Mir vs Gonzaga would be a pretty sick jiu-jitsu match![/quote]
i dont wanna pay to watch a jiu-jitsu match.. i pay to watch fighting.. do you meber the monson/cruz fight to great guys at jiu-jitsu.. but an extreamly boring fight to watch
The UFC absolutely NEEDS Arlovski, unless they want to have Nog-Tim fight 5 more times. I say put AA against Mir and have it be for the number 1 contender spot. Nobody else deserves a title shot yet:
Kongo - just lost to Herring
Herring - already lost to Nog
Gonzaga - just lost to Werdum, and before that Randy
Werdum - lost to AA in a boring match
Vera - just lost to Tim in a boring match
Mir - lost to Vera, beat UFC noob Lesnar
Lesnar - LOLZ
[quote comment=”360517″][quote comment=”360269″]”If that were the case, I’d have Tito Ortiz fighting at 1 o’clock in the F’ing afternoon” LOL
Even thought Andrei has not been the “Pitbull” as of late, he still deserves to be in the UFC and the UFC HW division can really use him at this point in time.
If they don’t re-sign Arlovski, then that means that, at the moment, they don’t have:
Randy Couture
Fedor Emelianenko
Josh Barnett
Andrei Arlovski
And they would have:
Big Nog
Tim Sylvia
That means that the UFC would only have 2 of the top 6 HW fighters. And that is inluding Timmay as a Top 6 fighter.[/quote]
Barnett is not top 6. He got creamed by Mirko twice. The UFC DOES in fact have Randy Couture, like it or not.
I hope AA comes back, but if he doesn’t it is his own fault. He really screwed himself with his past few performances.[/quote]
yes barnett is top 6. u say hes not cuz he lost to mirko twice?? write out your top guys and look who they have lost to. u probably one of those pepole who have couture in top 3 because he won two fights in a row. hes got “creamed” by a LHW twice, so does that take him off the list
MSNBC needs to shitcan this Mike guy and pick up someone that knows the sports, entertainment in general, and knows how to talk with some passion. Its like watching some squeemish dork talk about his opinions on topics. Everyone and their brother knows that Mirko’s leave was entirely amicable and he is more then welcome to come back if he shows his former self… but this guy didnt?
[quote comment=”360210″]I dont want to hear that he is TRYING to fix the problem, just do whatever is necessary to get Andre back inside the octagon, prefferably to a 6 fight deal. Then I need Dana to start using him better. That means having him fight regularly (every 4-6 months) andf having him fight in meaningful match ups. If the UFC doesnt land Fedor or Couture than I would like to see Andre vs. Nogueira for the title, not because I think that Arlovski has earned a title shot, but because he is the best possible opponent for Nogueira, that would make it a really big UFC title fight.[/quote]
i totally agree. trying and doing are 2 different things. dana and zuffa has really dropped the ball on this one. luckily they still have a chance to redeem themselves. like ive stated before i wish the ufc were like other pro sports and make their financials public. you always know in other sports what an athelete is making or what he is asking for, like if it is to much or not enough. this could either help the ufc or hurt them. i know they have alot of the under the table stuff too, so that might make it more difficult to go public.
Hope to see Arlovski back in the UFC and he should get a title shot against Big Nog. He has won his last 3 fights, his last against Jake O’Brien who beat Heath Herring. If Alovski fights any of the other HW guys and loses than the Heavyweight division is stuck with no viable contenders that have won consecutive fights or are big draws with fans.
On another note I wonder what Tito’s going to say in his post fight interview at UFC 84. If they give him the chance to speak that is.[/quote]
i like most of those match-ups except the maineiac, we dont need to see that a 4th time. but if he beat any one of those guys other than Big NOG, he should be in title contention.
[quote comment=”360548″][quote comment=”360490″]Mir vs Gonzaga would be a pretty sick jiu-jitsu match![/quote]
i dont wanna pay to watch a jiu-jitsu match.. i pay to watch fighting.. do you meber the monson/cruz fight to great guys at jiu-jitsu.. but an extreamly boring fight to watch[/quote]
[quote comment=”360567″][quote comment=”360517″][quote comment=”360269″]”If that were the case, I’d have Tito Ortiz fighting at 1 o’clock in the F’ing afternoon” LOL
Even thought Andrei has not been the “Pitbull” as of late, he still deserves to be in the UFC and the UFC HW division can really use him at this point in time.
If they don’t re-sign Arlovski, then that means that, at the moment, they don’t have:
Randy Couture
Fedor Emelianenko
Josh Barnett
Andrei Arlovski
And they would have:
Big Nog
Tim Sylvia
That means that the UFC would only have 2 of the top 6 HW fighters. And that is inluding Timmay as a Top 6 fighter.[/quote]
Barnett is not top 6. He got creamed by Mirko twice. The UFC DOES in fact have Randy Couture, like it or not.
I hope AA comes back, but if he doesn’t it is his own fault. He really screwed himself with his past few performances.[/quote]
yes barnett is top 6. u say hes not cuz he lost to mirko twice?? write out your top guys and look who they have lost to. u probably one of those pepole who have couture in top 3 because he won two fights in a row. hes got “creamed” by a LHW twice, so does that take him off the list[/quote]
Thank you keystone.
Like it or not Josh Barnett is absolutely Top 6. What did he do in his last UFC fight? He DEMOLISHED everybody’s hero, Randy Couture. Andrei Arlovski lost to TIM SYLVIA TWICE. That is far worse than losing to a Cro Cop in his prime in Japan.
[quote comment=”360681″][quote comment=”360567″][quote comment=”360517″][quote comment=”360269″]”If that were the case, I’d have Tito Ortiz fighting at 1 o’clock in the F’ing afternoon” LOL
Even thought Andrei has not been the “Pitbull” as of late, he still deserves to be in the UFC and the UFC HW division can really use him at this point in time.
If they don’t re-sign Arlovski, then that means that, at the moment, they don’t have:
Randy Couture
Fedor Emelianenko
Josh Barnett
Andrei Arlovski
And they would have:
Big Nog
Tim Sylvia
That means that the UFC would only have 2 of the top 6 HW fighters. And that is inluding Timmay as a Top 6 fighter.[/quote]
Barnett is not top 6. He got creamed by Mirko twice. The UFC DOES in fact have Randy Couture, like it or not.
I hope AA comes back, but if he doesn’t it is his own fault. He really screwed himself with his past few performances.[/quote]
yes barnett is top 6. u say hes not cuz he lost to mirko twice?? write out your top guys and look who they have lost to. u probably one of those pepole who have couture in top 3 because he won two fights in a row. hes got “creamed” by a LHW twice, so does that take him off the list[/quote]
Thank you keystone.
Like it or not Josh Barnett is absolutely Top 6. What did he do in his last UFC fight? He DEMOLISHED everybody’s hero, Randy Couture. Andrei Arlovski lost to TIM SYLVIA TWICE. That is far worse than losing to a Cro Cop in his prime in Japan.[/quote]
Like it or not? So you determine these things, do you? Josh’s win over Randy was too long ago to count. He lost to Mirko and Nog the last time out. I’d say right now, Randy, AA, Fedor, Werdum, Gonzaga, Sylvia are all ahead of Josh. I would even say Vera and Herring could be ranked ahead of him. Josh needs to start fighting some competition.
[quote comment=”360779″][quote comment=”360681″][
Like it or not Josh Barnett is absolutely Top 6. What did he do in his last UFC fight? He DEMOLISHED everybody’s hero, Randy Couture. Andrei Arlovski lost to TIM SYLVIA TWICE. That is far worse than losing to a Cro Cop in his prime in Japan.[/quote]
Like it or not? So you determine these things, do you? Josh’s win over Randy was too long ago to count. He lost to Mirko and Nog the last time out. I’d say right now, Randy, AA, Fedor, Werdum, Gonzaga, Sylvia are all ahead of Josh. I would even say Vera and Herring could be ranked ahead of him. Josh needs to start fighting some competition.[/quote]
Josh Barrnet is the goods.
I have him beating Gonzaga if they fought..Slyvia would get roasted.. All the above mentioned are some tuff heavy weights..I would add Roy Nelson..soon to be a top dog HH.
It is a good arguement to give Josh Barnett top 5 statis..Nog beat him…and he beat Nog too…now with him fighting tuff comp..that’s tuff cuz Dana White doesn’t like him for ” Personal ” reasons..Pride being bought out..the top tier HH getting in the UFC stable..He wants to fight these guys..He could beat Fedor..he has the tools. If Dana could conduct business without this gangster/goodfella image we would have all above mentioned fighting inside the octagon. If your a UFC fighter..a brighter light shines on you..then if you’re a MMA non-UFC fighter with skills..Josh is up there and can beat any of the top 5 on any day any place ring or cage.
If u dont have Barnett in your top 5, than I dont know what sport u r watching. This guy has the size and all the skills needed to beat anyone. I think if he were to sign in the UFC iut would shake things up real quick.
Forget Couture, the HW with the best chance at beating Fedor is Barnett! I dont understand why he has been so unsuccessful against Cro Cop…it just doesnt make sense. As much as I love Arlovski, if he fought Barnett, I think Barnett would be the favorite. This guy is the real deal and should be fighting in the UFC….. If I have to watch sean Sherk fight, then I should get to see Barnett fight!
Do u people have any idea how bad Barnett would hurt Sylvia? It would be really great to see!
just do what ever to keep him tito i can live without in the ufc, but at least keep arlovski, i know it is the new era but they need to keep some guys who helped get them there
[quote comment=”360681″][quote comment=”360567″][quote comment=”360517″][quote comment=”360269″]”If that were the case, I’d have Tito Ortiz fighting at 1 o’clock in the F’ing afternoon” LOL
Even thought Andrei has not been the “Pitbull” as of late, he still deserves to be in the UFC and the UFC HW division can really use him at this point in time.
If they don’t re-sign Arlovski, then that means that, at the moment, they don’t have:
Randy Couture
Fedor Emelianenko
Josh Barnett
Andrei Arlovski
And they would have:
Big Nog
Tim Sylvia
That means that the UFC would only have 2 of the top 6 HW fighters. And that is inluding Timmay as a Top 6 fighter.[/quote]
Barnett is not top 6. He got creamed by Mirko twice. The UFC DOES in fact have Randy Couture, like it or not.
I hope AA comes back, but if he doesn’t it is his own fault. He really screwed himself with his past few performances.[/quote]
yes barnett is top 6. u say hes not cuz he lost to mirko twice?? write out your top guys and look who they have lost to. u probably one of those pepole who have couture in top 3 because he won two fights in a row. hes got “creamed” by a LHW twice, so does that take him off the list[/quote]
Thank you keystone.
Like it or not Josh Barnett is absolutely Top 6. What did he do in his last UFC fight? He DEMOLISHED everybody’s hero, Randy Couture. Andrei Arlovski lost to TIM SYLVIA TWICE. That is far worse than losing to a Cro Cop in his prime in Japan.[/quote]
I would like to say VM and John, that Randy absolutely did NOT get demolished by Barnett, not in any way shape or form, it’s like saying Hughes Demolished Penn in the second fight. Couture had round 1 and 2, GnP’d a bit, and DOMINATED positioning, took Barnett down at will. Couture slipped up once, or gassed, whatever happened, and Josh took advantage like the champion that he is, but in no way would I agree that Barnett demolished Couture.
And in the same way Couture dominated positioning, I think Fedor will as well, and I think Fedor will do even more from top, then Couture did.
I obvioulsy do agree Barnett is def the best fight for Fedor right now outside the UFC(I’d rather see Randy though) but do not want to see HIM be the one to finally beat Fedor, Josh has been out to long, it would be anit climactic haha, and I just plain and simple think Randy has a better shot then Josh.
[quote comment=”360490″]Mir vs Gonzaga would be a pretty sick jiu-jitsu match![/quote]
Gonzaga would be a step down for Mir at this point…Gabriel “One Lucky Leg Kick” Gonzaga is a fluke and he has proved it…I would love to see Mir Vs Arlovski with the winner getting a title shot…I think Mir has his heart back and could definitely have a shot at the title…I would love to see him fight Big Nog in a battle of ground game!
[quote comment=”360487″][quote comment=”360475″][quote post=”5303″]On another note I wonder what Tito’s going to say in his post fight interview at UFC 84. If they give him the chance to speak that is. [/quote]
You have to win to get the post-fight interview, and Tito ain’t beating Machida.[/quote]
Agreed.[/quote]
disagreed
[quote comment=”361145″][quote comment=”360487″][quote comment=”360475″][quote post=”5303″]On another note I wonder what Tito’s going to say in his post fight interview at UFC 84. If they give him the chance to speak that is. [/quote]
You have to win to get the post-fight interview, and Tito ain’t beating Machida.[/quote]
Agreed.[/quote]
disagreed[/quote]
Disagree with the disagree, agree with the agree.
Dana had better get AA resigned NOW!!! [quote comment=”360523″]I agree AA hasn’t exactly been a “pitbull” as of late, but I don’t fully blame him in his last three fights. The fight vs Cruz wasn’t boring at all. It just had a weird finish. Werdum was boring, but I can’t blame him for not wanting to go to the ground against him. And I blame Jake O’Brien more then AA for the last fight. O’Brien tried exactly one thing over and over and over. Take down attempt…then hopefully hold AA down. And I’m sure AA knew if O’Brien did get on top then it would lead to a boring decision loss. Luckily he was able to fend it off then finish though. That’s something Herring wasn’t able to do.[/quote]
Man i think you hit the nail directly on the head. AA will reign supreme again mark my words. i say fuck it, i’v seen and read quite a few interviews where AA says he wants one more crack at Big Tim, so let him. If AA were to win i think he would be back 110% mos def. I think Tim took his fire and he needs to get it back for personaly and professonal reasons.whatever the case may be Dana needs AA, cause if you think hes boring or not, AA puts asses in seats and sells ppv’s. DANA GET IT DONE!!!!!!!
The UFC really needs to get AA back under contract because without him…you lose a major part of a weight class that is already lacking depth…I firmly believe the HW class is the most boring class in the UFC and it should be one of the most exciting…AA is exciting (except when he fought Verdum) and is someone people look forwarding to watching. I think Dana will definitely get him back…partly because both sides want to work something out and partly because where else will he really go? I can’t see the EliteXC shelling out the kind of cash it would take for AA to tell the UFC to buzz off…plus I mean does he really want to be fighting the likes of Rico “Rehab” Rodriguez and the all hype, non-impressive “Big Joke” err I mean “Big Foot” Silva? I think this is pretty much a done deal here and will be announced soon
[quote comment=”360420″]What about AA vs Mir? I know his last win was against Lesnar, but he did look better than he has since his motorcycle accident. No one here is really talking about Mir as a possible contender if he wins his next couple of fights. He definately has a better chance of getting a title shot than Herring or Kongo. Personally, I would like to see AA fight Kongo (great stand up match) next, with Mir re-matching Sylvia or fighting Gonzaga in his next match. If both win, fight each other for a title shot with Nog. Either way, if AA stays in the UFC it would be nice to see the two former champs go at it.[/quote]
We thought that Kongo vs. Herring was going to be a great standup match and Kongo decided to lay n pray.
hey yikes
Jardine screwed somewhat!{i like the fighters out of jackson camp}
Machida screwed based on title shot? or maybe your just someone who is paid across the internet to talk and post like tito sounds? his first ufc top 5 fighter will be tito-
AA screwed maybe- but half the story is he didn`t win against tim sylvia and that`s that! kinda of a bad stoppage! but tim did have a sure target{aa`s head}
you want to talk facts lets talk facts!
half the ufc fights go on based on hard work by all of zuffa inc.
second the power of the net and the drive of the fighters to be the best and trainers who are also up right ex-fighters giving 200%
nobody is putting out in the u.s. like zuffa when it comes to
“we let the fighters” who “earn” a right to be here fight!
!!!
ex: my beloved ken shamrock at cage rage!
AA made $105K base by fighting Jake O’Brien. He got another $65K for beating him. $170K is not bad money for going untelevised. UFC’s position is: you just made $170K for an untelevised fight, what are you doing for us. But, they are the ones who had him fight O’Brien in the first place, so they really did it to themselves. Based on AA being a top 5 HW, and big Timmy no longer being champ, I think it would be fair for the UFC to offer him $125K base and $125K winning bonus for now, with a jump to $250K base and $250K winning bonus if he becomes champ. What do you guys think the UFC should pay AA?
[quote comment=”362696″]AA made $105K base by fighting Jake O’Brien. He got another $65K for beating him. $170K is not bad money for going untelevised. UFC’s position is: you just made $170K for an untelevised fight, what are you doing for us. But, they are the ones who had him fight O’Brien in the first place, so they really did it to themselves. Based on AA being a top 5 HW, and big Timmy no longer being champ, I think it would be fair for the UFC to offer him $125K base and $125K winning bonus for now, with a jump to $250K base and $250K winning bonus if he becomes champ. What do you guys think the UFC should pay AA?[/quote]
i agree with those numbers. a quarter mil. for a win on his way to a title shot.and if he wins the belt after that he will have made .75 mil. for 2 fights. that seems resonable for a top Hwt.IMO hes only 1 win away from a title shot.maybe the1y should give him G.Gonzaga or C.Kongo
[quote comment=”362763″][quote comment=”362696″]AA made $105K base by fighting Jake O’Brien. He got another $65K for beating him. $170K is not bad money for going untelevised. UFC’s position is: you just made $170K for an untelevised fight, what are you doing for us. But, they are the ones who had him fight O’Brien in the first place, so they really did it to themselves. Based on AA being a top 5 HW, and big Timmy no longer being champ, I think it would be fair for the UFC to offer him $125K base and $125K winning bonus for now, with a jump to $250K base and $250K winning bonus if he becomes champ. What do you guys think the UFC should pay AA?[/quote]
i agree with those numbers. a quarter mil. for a win on his way to a title shot.and if he wins the belt after that he will have made .75 mil. for 2 fights. that seems resonable for a top Hwt.IMO hes only 1 win away from a title shot.maybe the1y should give him G.Gonzaga or C.Kongo[/quote]
The UFC should publicize all fighter payouts pre-fight, not post fight. Every other professional sport highly publicizes atheletes salaries, the UFC should as well.
As for who AA should fight next - NOT Gonzaga or Congo (although I would like to see an AA/Congo matchup-but between them three straight losses) He should fight Mir next, with winner getting next title shot.
the reason i said Gonzaga or Kongo was i want to see him in a fight he can win without going to the judges cards. even though they are both ex champs a match against Mir would make the PITBULL look bad. he wouldnt want to get into a grapling match with Mir,and Frank wouldnt want to stand with AA. i have always considered the PITBULL the hardest puncher in the UFC. so he s got a punchers chance against BIG NOG. i know Big Nog has never gotten KOed but hes never been hit by AA. when the Maineiac 1st came to the UFC he fought Cabbage and beat the hell out of him until the corner threw in the towel.
Cabbage wouldnt go down,but when the PITBULL fought him he went down cause AA hits that damn hard.
I hope that they can work things out with A. Arlovski. He is my favorite fighter, and many others. I won’t stop watching the UFC if A.Arlovski leaves, but I will follow him.
[quote comment=”360383″][quote comment=”360290″]Nice little jab at Tito!
I sincerely hope to see Andrei back in the octagon… and soon. He’s one of the fighters who originally got me into MMA.[/quote]
Me TOO!!! I was so used to watching crappy over-weight under fit boxers throw 2 or 3 punches per round in HW I wondered why they bothered with the division… then I saw AA in the UFC HW div and I was like oh F***… no more boxing for me, I have pitbull fights to watch![/quote]
[quote post=”5303″]the reason i said Gonzaga or Kongo was i want to see him in a fight he can win without going to the judges cards.[/quote]
I get what you’re saying. Those are more exciting fights. But it’s gonna be hard to justify a title shot if he beats either Zaga or Kongo because both guys are coming off losses. And while I agree that a Mir fight would probably me more of a chess match than a fight, it makes more sense rankings-wise.
aa is quietly backin down on his bravado exterior of wanting more cash out of the ufc, now he’s respect in what he jaws about dana.
he knows where his bread and butter is, plus the exposure that comes with fighting with the ufc.
in the end you have to fill seats and have ppl watch your shows to generate $$, arlovski is loved by all and ppl want to see him fight. [ in general]
hence the pay he receives.
dana will reel him in and get him on a 6 fight deal.
I dont want to hear that he is TRYING to fix the problem, just do whatever is necessary to get Andre back inside the octagon, prefferably to a 6 fight deal. Then I need Dana to start using him better. That means having him fight regularly (every 4-6 months) andf having him fight in meaningful match ups. If the UFC doesnt land Fedor or Couture than I would like to see Andre vs. Nogueira for the title, not because I think that Arlovski has earned a title shot, but because he is the best possible opponent for Nogueira, that would make it a really big UFC title fight.
AA has bieng treated like shit and im happy dana is relyzing what he has done and the damage he has done.
Andre versus Kong would be an awesome match. Arlovski would definately need to bring it to that fight. Kongo would have beaten Nog if he had fought instead of Sylvia. Unlike Sylvia Kongo does not mind taking chances and going in for the kill, something that if Sylvia had done in the early rounds, he would have probably won the fight. Kongo v Arlovski definately.
“If that were the case, I’d have Tito Ortiz fighting at 1 o’clock in the F’ing afternoon” LOL
Even thought Andrei has not been the “Pitbull” as of late, he still deserves to be in the UFC and the UFC HW division can really use him at this point in time.
If they don’t re-sign Arlovski, then that means that, at the moment, they don’t have:
Randy Couture
Fedor Emelianenko
Josh Barnett
Andrei Arlovski
And they would have:
Big Nog
Tim Sylvia
That means that the UFC would only have 2 of the top 6 HW fighters. And that is inluding Timmay as a Top 6 fighter.
Nice little jab at Tito!
I sincerely hope to see Andrei back in the octagon… and soon. He’s one of the fighters who originally got me into MMA.
[quote comment=”360252″] Kongo would have beaten Nog if he had fought instead of Sylvia.
No way Kongo would of beaten Big Nog..I’m not a big Tim Slyvia fan..but he did go at Nog..he tried to finsih..I give him that..look at Nog rez..you think he is out and done..then..tap tap tap..he won via submission. IMo..no way Kongo can F’ especially if he wants to do his new thing..wrestling..and take Nog to the deck.
[quote post=”5303″]Andre versus Kong would be an awesome match. Arlovski would definately need to bring it to that fight. Kongo would have beaten Nog if he had fought instead of Sylvia. Unlike Sylvia Kongo does not mind taking chances and going in for the kill, something that if Sylvia had done in the early rounds, he would have probably won the fight. Kongo v Arlovski definately.[/quote]
Kongo would have beaten Big Nog? How do you suppose he’d win that fight, but can’t muster a win against Heath Herring. Kongo and Gonzaga are both highly over-rated since beating Cro Cop. Neither of them ever deserved to be in the top 10 and it shows in thier most recent performances. Kongo would be in way over his head with any top 10 Heavyweight fighter, especially Nog and Arlovski. Heath Herring said it best,”if this was a body building competition Kongo would win all his fights.”
Glad AA is in the news, and hopeful Dana has realized he needs him now. He seems to know he made a mistake by pushing him aside when Randy returned, and especially by thinking he did not need him anymore when Cro Cop arrived. He thought he had a better version of AA in CC, but that has always been false. Let’s see what happens…
[quote comment=”360269″]”If that were the case, I’d have Tito Ortiz fighting at 1 o’clock in the F’ing afternoon” LOL
Yep, too funny. Best quote of the interview. Good to hear they are working on keeping Andrei, also.
MMA MANIA I CANT WATCH THE VID FOR SOME REASON.
Arlovski has not been himself yes, but he has won his last 3 its the same deal with Machida the dude is not that entertaining but hes undefeated so he must be doing something right. The thing is Arlovski had the fire and nothing to loose mentality afew years back but after losing championship to Tim he bacame kinda gun shy like crocop but im sure we will see the PITBULL if Dana resigns which he better and fucking give the man more money if thats what he wants. Arlovski sells PPV and has a large fan base more so than : Gonzaga, Werdum, Kongo, etc… And im sorry but putting him in the undercard and Leben in PPV was bullshit, and AA girl said that they didnt even give her a ticket im sure that did not sit well with AA. anywho Dana get it done
It was nice to hear Dana express some humility. Also, AA comes across as a classy guy. Talk about a contrast between Tito’s attitude and the outlook of AA.
They should keep AA.. he’s the only one that doesn’t complain that… and the reason why he’s been lackin is because they keep putting him up against ground guyz.. its not his fault they dont’ want to stand with him…. the last guy didn’t even stand with him for 2 sec’s.. and fabrico verdum slapped him!! actually slapped him in the middle fight then went on the ground and told him to come down to him….. so put him up against a stand up guy and for sure the pitbull will be back
[quote comment=”360359″]They should keep AA.. he’s the only one that doesn’t complain that… and the reason why he’s been lackin is because they keep putting him up against ground guyz.. its not his fault they dont’ want to stand with him…. the last guy didn’t even stand with him for 2 sec’s.. and fabrico verdum slapped him!! actually slapped him in the middle fight then went on the ground and told him to come down to him….. so put him up against a stand up guy and for sure the pitbull will be back[/quote]
Arlovski and Herring might be an exciting match up.
[quote comment=”360290″]Nice little jab at Tito!
I sincerely hope to see Andrei back in the octagon… and soon. He’s one of the fighters who originally got me into MMA.[/quote]
Me TOO!!! I was so used to watching crappy over-weight under fit boxers throw 2 or 3 punches per round in HW I wondered why they bothered with the division… then I saw AA in the UFC HW div and I was like oh F***… no more boxing for me, I have pitbull fights to watch!
There are a lot of good potential matchups fror AA:
In no particular order:
AA/Herring
AA/Silvia
AA/Vera
AA/Nog
AA/Kongo
i really hope they give him a contract extension soon. it would be a damn shame if they let someone else sign him. the UFC needs him.if Randy wont fight Big Nog then the PITBULL should get the next title shot.
What about AA vs Mir? I know his last win was against Lesnar, but he did look better than he has since his motorcycle accident. No one here is really talking about Mir as a possible contender if he wins his next couple of fights. He definately has a better chance of getting a title shot than Herring or Kongo. Personally, I would like to see AA fight Kongo (great stand up match) next, with Mir re-matching Sylvia or fighting Gonzaga in his next match. If both win, fight each other for a title shot with Nog. Either way, if AA stays in the UFC it would be nice to see the two former champs go at it.
[quote comment=”360389″]There are a lot of good potential matchups fror AA:
In no particular order:
AA/Herring
AA/Silvia
AA/Vera
AA/Nog
AA/Kongo[/quote]
Hope to see Arlovski back in the UFC and he should get a title shot against Big Nog. He has won his last 3 fights, his last against Jake O’Brien who beat Heath Herring. If Alovski fights any of the other HW guys and loses than the Heavyweight division is stuck with no viable contenders that have won consecutive fights or are big draws with fans.
On another note I wonder what Tito’s going to say in his post fight interview at UFC 84. If they give him the chance to speak that is.
That Tito line was great.
With everything going on right now in the HW division, it seems like Dana is starting to realize how valuable AA is. I really hope they work something out.
AA re-signs, then Fedor signs, Couture comes out of retirement. Ahhh, the HW division will be dominant again!
Now they just need to make all of that happen……..
Forgot about Frank Mir. Mir vs Arlovski could set up a title fight with Frank coming off a big win against Lesnar. Brandon Vera needs to get some W’s starting with Werdum at UFC85 and could be in the mix if he strings wins against Herring, Kongo etc
[quote comment=”360210″]I dont want to hear that he is TRYING to fix the problem, just do whatever is necessary to get Andre back inside the octagon, prefferably to a 6 fight deal. Then I need Dana to start using him better. That means having him fight regularly (every 4-6 months) andf having him fight in meaningful match ups. If the UFC doesnt land Fedor or Couture than I would like to see Andre vs. Nogueira for the title, not because I think that Arlovski has earned a title shot, but because he is the best possible opponent for Nogueira, that would make it a really big UFC title fight.[/quote]
AA vs. Big nog would be a brawl!!
Glad to see Dana addressing the issues in the HW division. Im holding out no hope that UFC will sign Fedor so resigning AA should be priority.
i want to know where nbc gets these retards to run the show.. that guy knew nothing bout anything. everyone on here knows that the rampage forrest fight is in august not july.
Too little too late…heading to Affliction…
AA is boring and doesn’t deserve the money that he is surely asking for. Dana needs to keep him because the HW division is anemic, but AA basically functions as life support for a division on the verge of death.
WAR ARLOVSKI! I am happy to see Dana admitting to his mistakes instead of making excuses for them. UFC is the the only ticket in town but to keep it that way Dana is going to be forced to keep his fighters happier and loyal.
By only ticket I mean TOP mma venue
[quote post=”5303″]On another note I wonder what Tito’s going to say in his post fight interview at UFC 84. If they give him the chance to speak that is. [/quote]
You have to win to get the post-fight interview, and Tito ain’t beating Machida.
[quote comment=”360475″][quote post=”5303″]On another note I wonder what Tito’s going to say in his post fight interview at UFC 84. If they give him the chance to speak that is. [/quote]
You have to win to get the post-fight interview, and Tito ain’t beating Machida.[/quote]
Agreed.
Mir vs Gonzaga would be a pretty sick jiu-jitsu match!
[quote comment=”360490″]Mir vs Gonzaga would be a pretty sick jiu-jitsu match![/quote]
I agree. I think Mir is 1 maybe 2 fights away from a title shot. Gonzaga or Sylvia would be the best match for Mir next.
I don’t have a link to watch the video, help me out mania.
[quote comment=”360269″]”If that were the case, I’d have Tito Ortiz fighting at 1 o’clock in the F’ing afternoon” LOL
Even thought Andrei has not been the “Pitbull” as of late, he still deserves to be in the UFC and the UFC HW division can really use him at this point in time.
If they don’t re-sign Arlovski, then that means that, at the moment, they don’t have:
Randy Couture
Fedor Emelianenko
Josh Barnett
Andrei Arlovski
And they would have:
Big Nog
Tim Sylvia
That means that the UFC would only have 2 of the top 6 HW fighters. And that is inluding Timmay as a Top 6 fighter.[/quote]
Barnett is not top 6. He got creamed by Mirko twice. The UFC DOES in fact have Randy Couture, like it or not.
I hope AA comes back, but if he doesn’t it is his own fault. He really screwed himself with his past few performances.
I agree AA hasn’t exactly been a “pitbull” as of late, but I don’t fully blame him in his last three fights. The fight vs Cruz wasn’t boring at all. It just had a weird finish. Werdum was boring, but I can’t blame him for not wanting to go to the ground against him. And I blame Jake O’Brien more then AA for the last fight. O’Brien tried exactly one thing over and over and over. Take down attempt…then hopefully hold AA down. And I’m sure AA knew if O’Brien did get on top then it would lead to a boring decision loss. Luckily he was able to fend it off then finish though. That’s something Herring wasn’t able to do.
if they would just put him in there w/ someone who would bring it to andre, we might see the pitbull again. pe depano, werdum and obrien didnt do that. i think nog, herring, gonzaga, and kongo would fit the bill, preferably nog because i can tell he is a proud champion.
i think mir wwould be another boring fight for a.a.
[quote comment=”360490″]Mir vs Gonzaga would be a pretty sick jiu-jitsu match![/quote]
i dont wanna pay to watch a jiu-jitsu match.. i pay to watch fighting.. do you meber the monson/cruz fight to great guys at jiu-jitsu.. but an extreamly boring fight to watch
The UFC absolutely NEEDS Arlovski, unless they want to have Nog-Tim fight 5 more times. I say put AA against Mir and have it be for the number 1 contender spot. Nobody else deserves a title shot yet:
Kongo - just lost to Herring
Herring - already lost to Nog
Gonzaga - just lost to Werdum, and before that Randy
Werdum - lost to AA in a boring match
Vera - just lost to Tim in a boring match
Mir - lost to Vera, beat UFC noob Lesnar
Lesnar - LOLZ
[quote comment=”360517″][quote comment=”360269″]”If that were the case, I’d have Tito Ortiz fighting at 1 o’clock in the F’ing afternoon” LOL
Even thought Andrei has not been the “Pitbull” as of late, he still deserves to be in the UFC and the UFC HW division can really use him at this point in time.
If they don’t re-sign Arlovski, then that means that, at the moment, they don’t have:
Randy Couture
Fedor Emelianenko
Josh Barnett
Andrei Arlovski
And they would have:
Big Nog
Tim Sylvia
That means that the UFC would only have 2 of the top 6 HW fighters. And that is inluding Timmay as a Top 6 fighter.[/quote]
Barnett is not top 6. He got creamed by Mirko twice. The UFC DOES in fact have Randy Couture, like it or not.
I hope AA comes back, but if he doesn’t it is his own fault. He really screwed himself with his past few performances.[/quote]
yes barnett is top 6. u say hes not cuz he lost to mirko twice?? write out your top guys and look who they have lost to. u probably one of those pepole who have couture in top 3 because he won two fights in a row. hes got “creamed” by a LHW twice, so does that take him off the list
MSNBC needs to shitcan this Mike guy and pick up someone that knows the sports, entertainment in general, and knows how to talk with some passion. Its like watching some squeemish dork talk about his opinions on topics. Everyone and their brother knows that Mirko’s leave was entirely amicable and he is more then welcome to come back if he shows his former self… but this guy didnt?
[quote comment=”360210″]I dont want to hear that he is TRYING to fix the problem, just do whatever is necessary to get Andre back inside the octagon, prefferably to a 6 fight deal. Then I need Dana to start using him better. That means having him fight regularly (every 4-6 months) andf having him fight in meaningful match ups. If the UFC doesnt land Fedor or Couture than I would like to see Andre vs. Nogueira for the title, not because I think that Arlovski has earned a title shot, but because he is the best possible opponent for Nogueira, that would make it a really big UFC title fight.[/quote]
i totally agree. trying and doing are 2 different things. dana and zuffa has really dropped the ball on this one. luckily they still have a chance to redeem themselves. like ive stated before i wish the ufc were like other pro sports and make their financials public. you always know in other sports what an athelete is making or what he is asking for, like if it is to much or not enough. this could either help the ufc or hurt them. i know they have alot of the under the table stuff too, so that might make it more difficult to go public.
[quote comment=”360424″][quote comment=”360389″]There are a lot of good potential matchups fror AA:
In no particular order:
AA/Herring
AA/Silvia
AA/Vera
AA/Nog
AA/Kongo[/quote]
Hope to see Arlovski back in the UFC and he should get a title shot against Big Nog. He has won his last 3 fights, his last against Jake O’Brien who beat Heath Herring. If Alovski fights any of the other HW guys and loses than the Heavyweight division is stuck with no viable contenders that have won consecutive fights or are big draws with fans.
On another note I wonder what Tito’s going to say in his post fight interview at UFC 84. If they give him the chance to speak that is.[/quote]
i like most of those match-ups except the maineiac, we dont need to see that a 4th time. but if he beat any one of those guys other than Big NOG, he should be in title contention.
[quote comment=”360548″][quote comment=”360490″]Mir vs Gonzaga would be a pretty sick jiu-jitsu match![/quote]
i dont wanna pay to watch a jiu-jitsu match.. i pay to watch fighting.. do you meber the monson/cruz fight to great guys at jiu-jitsu.. but an extreamly boring fight to watch[/quote]
you are watching the wrong sport then.
[quote comment=”360567″][quote comment=”360517″][quote comment=”360269″]”If that were the case, I’d have Tito Ortiz fighting at 1 o’clock in the F’ing afternoon” LOL
Even thought Andrei has not been the “Pitbull” as of late, he still deserves to be in the UFC and the UFC HW division can really use him at this point in time.
If they don’t re-sign Arlovski, then that means that, at the moment, they don’t have:
Randy Couture
Fedor Emelianenko
Josh Barnett
Andrei Arlovski
And they would have:
Big Nog
Tim Sylvia
That means that the UFC would only have 2 of the top 6 HW fighters. And that is inluding Timmay as a Top 6 fighter.[/quote]
Barnett is not top 6. He got creamed by Mirko twice. The UFC DOES in fact have Randy Couture, like it or not.
I hope AA comes back, but if he doesn’t it is his own fault. He really screwed himself with his past few performances.[/quote]
yes barnett is top 6. u say hes not cuz he lost to mirko twice?? write out your top guys and look who they have lost to. u probably one of those pepole who have couture in top 3 because he won two fights in a row. hes got “creamed” by a LHW twice, so does that take him off the list[/quote]
Thank you keystone.
Like it or not Josh Barnett is absolutely Top 6. What did he do in his last UFC fight? He DEMOLISHED everybody’s hero, Randy Couture. Andrei Arlovski lost to TIM SYLVIA TWICE. That is far worse than losing to a Cro Cop in his prime in Japan.
[quote comment=”360681″][quote comment=”360567″][quote comment=”360517″][quote comment=”360269″]”If that were the case, I’d have Tito Ortiz fighting at 1 o’clock in the F’ing afternoon” LOL
Even thought Andrei has not been the “Pitbull” as of late, he still deserves to be in the UFC and the UFC HW division can really use him at this point in time.
If they don’t re-sign Arlovski, then that means that, at the moment, they don’t have:
Randy Couture
Fedor Emelianenko
Josh Barnett
Andrei Arlovski
And they would have:
Big Nog
Tim Sylvia
That means that the UFC would only have 2 of the top 6 HW fighters. And that is inluding Timmay as a Top 6 fighter.[/quote]
Barnett is not top 6. He got creamed by Mirko twice. The UFC DOES in fact have Randy Couture, like it or not.
I hope AA comes back, but if he doesn’t it is his own fault. He really screwed himself with his past few performances.[/quote]
yes barnett is top 6. u say hes not cuz he lost to mirko twice?? write out your top guys and look who they have lost to. u probably one of those pepole who have couture in top 3 because he won two fights in a row. hes got “creamed” by a LHW twice, so does that take him off the list[/quote]
Thank you keystone.
Like it or not Josh Barnett is absolutely Top 6. What did he do in his last UFC fight? He DEMOLISHED everybody’s hero, Randy Couture. Andrei Arlovski lost to TIM SYLVIA TWICE. That is far worse than losing to a Cro Cop in his prime in Japan.[/quote]
Like it or not? So you determine these things, do you? Josh’s win over Randy was too long ago to count. He lost to Mirko and Nog the last time out. I’d say right now, Randy, AA, Fedor, Werdum, Gonzaga, Sylvia are all ahead of Josh. I would even say Vera and Herring could be ranked ahead of him. Josh needs to start fighting some competition.
[quote comment=”360779″][quote comment=”360681″][
Like it or not Josh Barnett is absolutely Top 6. What did he do in his last UFC fight? He DEMOLISHED everybody’s hero, Randy Couture. Andrei Arlovski lost to TIM SYLVIA TWICE. That is far worse than losing to a Cro Cop in his prime in Japan.[/quote]
Like it or not? So you determine these things, do you? Josh’s win over Randy was too long ago to count. He lost to Mirko and Nog the last time out. I’d say right now, Randy, AA, Fedor, Werdum, Gonzaga, Sylvia are all ahead of Josh. I would even say Vera and Herring could be ranked ahead of him. Josh needs to start fighting some competition.[/quote]
Josh Barrnet is the goods.
I have him beating Gonzaga if they fought..Slyvia would get roasted.. All the above mentioned are some tuff heavy weights..I would add Roy Nelson..soon to be a top dog HH.
It is a good arguement to give Josh Barnett top 5 statis..Nog beat him…and he beat Nog too…now with him fighting tuff comp..that’s tuff cuz Dana White doesn’t like him for ” Personal ” reasons..Pride being bought out..the top tier HH getting in the UFC stable..He wants to fight these guys..He could beat Fedor..he has the tools. If Dana could conduct business without this gangster/goodfella image we would have all above mentioned fighting inside the octagon. If your a UFC fighter..a brighter light shines on you..then if you’re a MMA non-UFC fighter with skills..Josh is up there and can beat any of the top 5 on any day any place ring or cage.
Yo Turn on CNN: I cant believe it… Dana White was murdered today by the Russian Mob!!!!! whoooooo hooo!!
If u dont have Barnett in your top 5, than I dont know what sport u r watching. This guy has the size and all the skills needed to beat anyone. I think if he were to sign in the UFC iut would shake things up real quick.
Forget Couture, the HW with the best chance at beating Fedor is Barnett! I dont understand why he has been so unsuccessful against Cro Cop…it just doesnt make sense. As much as I love Arlovski, if he fought Barnett, I think Barnett would be the favorite. This guy is the real deal and should be fighting in the UFC….. If I have to watch sean Sherk fight, then I should get to see Barnett fight!
Do u people have any idea how bad Barnett would hurt Sylvia? It would be really great to see!
just do what ever to keep him tito i can live without in the ufc, but at least keep arlovski, i know it is the new era but they need to keep some guys who helped get them there
[quote comment=”360681″][quote comment=”360567″][quote comment=”360517″][quote comment=”360269″]”If that were the case, I’d have Tito Ortiz fighting at 1 o’clock in the F’ing afternoon” LOL
Even thought Andrei has not been the “Pitbull” as of late, he still deserves to be in the UFC and the UFC HW division can really use him at this point in time.
If they don’t re-sign Arlovski, then that means that, at the moment, they don’t have:
Randy Couture
Fedor Emelianenko
Josh Barnett
Andrei Arlovski
And they would have:
Big Nog
Tim Sylvia
That means that the UFC would only have 2 of the top 6 HW fighters. And that is inluding Timmay as a Top 6 fighter.[/quote]
Barnett is not top 6. He got creamed by Mirko twice. The UFC DOES in fact have Randy Couture, like it or not.
I hope AA comes back, but if he doesn’t it is his own fault. He really screwed himself with his past few performances.[/quote]
yes barnett is top 6. u say hes not cuz he lost to mirko twice?? write out your top guys and look who they have lost to. u probably one of those pepole who have couture in top 3 because he won two fights in a row. hes got “creamed” by a LHW twice, so does that take him off the list[/quote]
Thank you keystone.
Like it or not Josh Barnett is absolutely Top 6. What did he do in his last UFC fight? He DEMOLISHED everybody’s hero, Randy Couture. Andrei Arlovski lost to TIM SYLVIA TWICE. That is far worse than losing to a Cro Cop in his prime in Japan.[/quote]
I would like to say VM and John, that Randy absolutely did NOT get demolished by Barnett, not in any way shape or form, it’s like saying Hughes Demolished Penn in the second fight. Couture had round 1 and 2, GnP’d a bit, and DOMINATED positioning, took Barnett down at will. Couture slipped up once, or gassed, whatever happened, and Josh took advantage like the champion that he is, but in no way would I agree that Barnett demolished Couture.
And in the same way Couture dominated positioning, I think Fedor will as well, and I think Fedor will do even more from top, then Couture did.
I obvioulsy do agree Barnett is def the best fight for Fedor right now outside the UFC(I’d rather see Randy though) but do not want to see HIM be the one to finally beat Fedor, Josh has been out to long, it would be anit climactic haha, and I just plain and simple think Randy has a better shot then Josh.
[quote comment=”360490″]Mir vs Gonzaga would be a pretty sick jiu-jitsu match![/quote]
Gonzaga would be a step down for Mir at this point…Gabriel “One Lucky Leg Kick” Gonzaga is a fluke and he has proved it…I would love to see Mir Vs Arlovski with the winner getting a title shot…I think Mir has his heart back and could definitely have a shot at the title…I would love to see him fight Big Nog in a battle of ground game!
MANIA!!!! Unmoderate my reply to VM about Barnett/Randy/and Fedor porfavor!!!
[quote comment=”360487″][quote comment=”360475″][quote post=”5303″]On another note I wonder what Tito’s going to say in his post fight interview at UFC 84. If they give him the chance to speak that is. [/quote]
You have to win to get the post-fight interview, and Tito ain’t beating Machida.[/quote]
Agreed.[/quote]
disagreed
[quote comment=”361145″][quote comment=”360487″][quote comment=”360475″][quote post=”5303″]On another note I wonder what Tito’s going to say in his post fight interview at UFC 84. If they give him the chance to speak that is. [/quote]
You have to win to get the post-fight interview, and Tito ain’t beating Machida.[/quote]
Agreed.[/quote]
disagreed[/quote]
Disagree with the disagree, agree with the agree.
Dana had better get AA resigned NOW!!! [quote comment=”360523″]I agree AA hasn’t exactly been a “pitbull” as of late, but I don’t fully blame him in his last three fights. The fight vs Cruz wasn’t boring at all. It just had a weird finish. Werdum was boring, but I can’t blame him for not wanting to go to the ground against him. And I blame Jake O’Brien more then AA for the last fight. O’Brien tried exactly one thing over and over and over. Take down attempt…then hopefully hold AA down. And I’m sure AA knew if O’Brien did get on top then it would lead to a boring decision loss. Luckily he was able to fend it off then finish though. That’s something Herring wasn’t able to do.[/quote]
Man i think you hit the nail directly on the head. AA will reign supreme again mark my words. i say fuck it, i’v seen and read quite a few interviews where AA says he wants one more crack at Big Tim, so let him. If AA were to win i think he would be back 110% mos def. I think Tim took his fire and he needs to get it back for personaly and professonal reasons.whatever the case may be Dana needs AA, cause if you think hes boring or not, AA puts asses in seats and sells ppv’s. DANA GET IT DONE!!!!!!!
The UFC really needs to get AA back under contract because without him…you lose a major part of a weight class that is already lacking depth…I firmly believe the HW class is the most boring class in the UFC and it should be one of the most exciting…AA is exciting (except when he fought Verdum) and is someone people look forwarding to watching. I think Dana will definitely get him back…partly because both sides want to work something out and partly because where else will he really go? I can’t see the EliteXC shelling out the kind of cash it would take for AA to tell the UFC to buzz off…plus I mean does he really want to be fighting the likes of Rico “Rehab” Rodriguez and the all hype, non-impressive “Big Joke” err I mean “Big Foot” Silva? I think this is pretty much a done deal here and will be announced soon
[quote comment=”360420″]What about AA vs Mir? I know his last win was against Lesnar, but he did look better than he has since his motorcycle accident. No one here is really talking about Mir as a possible contender if he wins his next couple of fights. He definately has a better chance of getting a title shot than Herring or Kongo. Personally, I would like to see AA fight Kongo (great stand up match) next, with Mir re-matching Sylvia or fighting Gonzaga in his next match. If both win, fight each other for a title shot with Nog. Either way, if AA stays in the UFC it would be nice to see the two former champs go at it.[/quote]
We thought that Kongo vs. Herring was going to be a great standup match and Kongo decided to lay n pray.
Bring the pain Silva!
Guys what is wrong with the UFC…
Jardine (Screwed)
Machida (Screwed)
AA (Screwed)
These guys have earned a title shot now…
Stop playing to the ratings.
hey yikes
Jardine screwed somewhat!{i like the fighters out of jackson camp}
Machida screwed based on title shot? or maybe your just someone who is paid across the internet to talk and post like tito sounds? his first ufc top 5 fighter will be tito-
AA screwed maybe- but half the story is he didn`t win against tim sylvia and that`s that! kinda of a bad stoppage! but tim did have a sure target{aa`s head}
you want to talk facts lets talk facts!
half the ufc fights go on based on hard work by all of zuffa inc.
second the power of the net and the drive of the fighters to be the best and trainers who are also up right ex-fighters giving 200%
nobody is putting out in the u.s. like zuffa when it comes to
“we let the fighters” who “earn” a right to be here fight!
!!!
ex: my beloved ken shamrock at cage rage!
AA made $105K base by fighting Jake O’Brien. He got another $65K for beating him. $170K is not bad money for going untelevised. UFC’s position is: you just made $170K for an untelevised fight, what are you doing for us. But, they are the ones who had him fight O’Brien in the first place, so they really did it to themselves. Based on AA being a top 5 HW, and big Timmy no longer being champ, I think it would be fair for the UFC to offer him $125K base and $125K winning bonus for now, with a jump to $250K base and $250K winning bonus if he becomes champ. What do you guys think the UFC should pay AA?
[quote comment=”362696″]AA made $105K base by fighting Jake O’Brien. He got another $65K for beating him. $170K is not bad money for going untelevised. UFC’s position is: you just made $170K for an untelevised fight, what are you doing for us. But, they are the ones who had him fight O’Brien in the first place, so they really did it to themselves. Based on AA being a top 5 HW, and big Timmy no longer being champ, I think it would be fair for the UFC to offer him $125K base and $125K winning bonus for now, with a jump to $250K base and $250K winning bonus if he becomes champ. What do you guys think the UFC should pay AA?[/quote]
i agree with those numbers. a quarter mil. for a win on his way to a title shot.and if he wins the belt after that he will have made .75 mil. for 2 fights. that seems resonable for a top Hwt.IMO hes only 1 win away from a title shot.maybe the1y should give him G.Gonzaga or C.Kongo
[quote comment=”362763″][quote comment=”362696″]AA made $105K base by fighting Jake O’Brien. He got another $65K for beating him. $170K is not bad money for going untelevised. UFC’s position is: you just made $170K for an untelevised fight, what are you doing for us. But, they are the ones who had him fight O’Brien in the first place, so they really did it to themselves. Based on AA being a top 5 HW, and big Timmy no longer being champ, I think it would be fair for the UFC to offer him $125K base and $125K winning bonus for now, with a jump to $250K base and $250K winning bonus if he becomes champ. What do you guys think the UFC should pay AA?[/quote]
i agree with those numbers. a quarter mil. for a win on his way to a title shot.and if he wins the belt after that he will have made .75 mil. for 2 fights. that seems resonable for a top Hwt.IMO hes only 1 win away from a title shot.maybe the1y should give him G.Gonzaga or C.Kongo[/quote]
The UFC should publicize all fighter payouts pre-fight, not post fight. Every other professional sport highly publicizes atheletes salaries, the UFC should as well.
As for who AA should fight next - NOT Gonzaga or Congo (although I would like to see an AA/Congo matchup-but between them three straight losses) He should fight Mir next, with winner getting next title shot.
what the hell happened?
the reason i said Gonzaga or Kongo was i want to see him in a fight he can win without going to the judges cards. even though they are both ex champs a match against Mir would make the PITBULL look bad. he wouldnt want to get into a grapling match with Mir,and Frank wouldnt want to stand with AA. i have always considered the PITBULL the hardest puncher in the UFC. so he s got a punchers chance against BIG NOG. i know Big Nog has never gotten KOed but hes never been hit by AA. when the Maineiac 1st came to the UFC he fought Cabbage and beat the hell out of him until the corner threw in the towel.
Cabbage wouldnt go down,but when the PITBULL fought him he went down cause AA hits that damn hard.
I hope that they can work things out with A. Arlovski. He is my favorite fighter, and many others. I won’t stop watching the UFC if A.Arlovski leaves, but I will follow him.
[quote comment=”360383″][quote comment=”360290″]Nice little jab at Tito!
I sincerely hope to see Andrei back in the octagon… and soon. He’s one of the fighters who originally got me into MMA.[/quote]
Me TOO!!! I was so used to watching crappy over-weight under fit boxers throw 2 or 3 punches per round in HW I wondered why they bothered with the division… then I saw AA in the UFC HW div and I was like oh F***… no more boxing for me, I have pitbull fights to watch![/quote]
YUP!!!!!!!!!
[quote post=”5303″]the reason i said Gonzaga or Kongo was i want to see him in a fight he can win without going to the judges cards.[/quote]
I get what you’re saying. Those are more exciting fights. But it’s gonna be hard to justify a title shot if he beats either Zaga or Kongo because both guys are coming off losses. And while I agree that a Mir fight would probably me more of a chess match than a fight, it makes more sense rankings-wise.
aa is quietly backin down on his bravado exterior of wanting more cash out of the ufc, now he’s respect in what he jaws about dana.
he knows where his bread and butter is, plus the exposure that comes with fighting with the ufc.
in the end you have to fill seats and have ppl watch your shows to generate $$, arlovski is loved by all and ppl want to see him fight. [ in general]
hence the pay he receives.
dana will reel him in and get him on a 6 fight deal.
By only ticket I