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		<title>By: YSA</title>
		<link>http://mmamania.com/2008/03/11/tito-ortiz-media-mania/comment-page-1/#comment-362546</link>
		<dc:creator>YSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cant wait for Tito to come back and kick this &quot;wellknown&quot; Machida that probably his neighbors and friends will buy the fight if he was fighting somebody else. All of you are a bunch of haters that at one point were Titos fans and now you want the Machida to win.Who knows this guy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cant wait for Tito to come back and kick this &#8220;wellknown&#8221; Machida that probably his neighbors and friends will buy the fight if he was fighting somebody else. All of you are a bunch of haters that at one point were Titos fans and now you want the Machida to win.Who knows this guy?</p>
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		<title>By: ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY!</title>
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		<dc:creator>ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;361502&quot;]ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY! -  &quot;he dont duck fights&quot; so why was the interim light heavyweight title created? he ducked chuck, couture said himself after liddell beat him, and i quote &quot;im happy for chuck, he deserves this, he deserved it a long time ago when tito wouldnt fight him&quot; oh and i know tito handed shamrock his ass, but in their first fight shamrock had a torn acl, a rematch was in the contract, but why would tito not fight ken for another 5 years, when he was 43?[/quote]
no offense their jslim but tito would only fight who dana would let him fight tito did not run the show dana does. if your injured your injured every fighter goes through it but i dont see where he ducked a fight when it was coutoure who took the title from him.dana will protect who is bringing in the money and at that time it was tito......look how long he protected chuck...see the string...lol and now look at rampage hes doing the same thing its just a business thing i guess....its just that tito is not afraid to stand and say what he believes is right and dana does not like confrontation so tito is the one who has to go its fine with him but will the &#039;F&#039; brothers let him go. everybody should have noticed that when dana let spike air that &#039;so called&#039; match with him and tito to go on for that long that dana just wanted reconition for himself,all the fans seemed to forget about that when here on the east coast the we stayed up late for the bull crap.dana will not give the fans what they want he will give them what HE wants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="361502"]ORTIZ!!!!!!08&#8230;.BABY! &#8211;  &#8220;he dont duck fights&#8221; so why was the interim light heavyweight title created? he ducked chuck, couture said himself after liddell beat him, and i quote &#8220;im happy for chuck, he deserves this, he deserved it a long time ago when tito wouldnt fight him&#8221; oh and i know tito handed shamrock his ass, but in their first fight shamrock had a torn acl, a rematch was in the contract, but why would tito not fight ken for another 5 years, when he was 43?[/quote]<br />
no offense their jslim but tito would only fight who dana would let him fight tito did not run the show dana does. if your injured your injured every fighter goes through it but i dont see where he ducked a fight when it was coutoure who took the title from him.dana will protect who is bringing in the money and at that time it was tito&#8230;&#8230;look how long he protected chuck&#8230;see the string&#8230;lol and now look at rampage hes doing the same thing its just a business thing i guess&#8230;.its just that tito is not afraid to stand and say what he believes is right and dana does not like confrontation so tito is the one who has to go its fine with him but will the &#8216;F&#8217; brothers let him go. everybody should have noticed that when dana let spike air that &#8217;so called&#8217; match with him and tito to go on for that long that dana just wanted reconition for himself,all the fans seemed to forget about that when here on the east coast the we stayed up late for the bull crap.dana will not give the fans what they want he will give them what HE wants.</p>
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		<title>By: Cool Hand Chad</title>
		<link>http://mmamania.com/2008/03/11/tito-ortiz-media-mania/comment-page-1/#comment-361762</link>
		<dc:creator>Cool Hand Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 04:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;361502&quot;]ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY! -  &quot;he dont duck fights&quot; so why was the interim light heavyweight title created? he ducked chuck, couture said himself after liddell beat him, and i quote &quot;im happy for chuck, he deserves this, he deserved it a long time ago when tito wouldnt fight him&quot; oh and i know tito handed shamrock his ass, but in their first fight shamrock had a torn acl, a rematch was in the contract, but why would tito not fight ken for another 5 years, when he was 43?[/quote]

preach it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="361502"]ORTIZ!!!!!!08&#8230;.BABY! &#8211;  &#8220;he dont duck fights&#8221; so why was the interim light heavyweight title created? he ducked chuck, couture said himself after liddell beat him, and i quote &#8220;im happy for chuck, he deserves this, he deserved it a long time ago when tito wouldnt fight him&#8221; oh and i know tito handed shamrock his ass, but in their first fight shamrock had a torn acl, a rematch was in the contract, but why would tito not fight ken for another 5 years, when he was 43?[/quote]</p>
<p>preach it.</p>
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		<title>By: jslim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jslim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 02:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY! -  &quot;he dont duck fights&quot; so why was the interim light heavyweight title created? he ducked chuck, couture said himself after liddell beat him, and i quote &quot;im happy for chuck, he deserves this, he deserved it a long time ago when tito wouldnt fight him&quot; oh and i know tito handed shamrock his ass, but in their first fight shamrock had a torn acl, a rematch was in the contract, but why would tito not fight ken for another 5 years, when he was 43?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ORTIZ!!!!!!08&#8230;.BABY! &#8211;  &#8220;he dont duck fights&#8221; so why was the interim light heavyweight title created? he ducked chuck, couture said himself after liddell beat him, and i quote &#8220;im happy for chuck, he deserves this, he deserved it a long time ago when tito wouldnt fight him&#8221; oh and i know tito handed shamrock his ass, but in their first fight shamrock had a torn acl, a rematch was in the contract, but why would tito not fight ken for another 5 years, when he was 43?</p>
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		<title>By: ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY!</title>
		<link>http://mmamania.com/2008/03/11/tito-ortiz-media-mania/comment-page-1/#comment-361465</link>
		<dc:creator>ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;361045&quot;][quote comment=&quot;360156&quot;][quote comment=&quot;359833&quot;][quote comment=&quot;359787&quot;][quote comment=&quot;359676&quot;][quote comment=&quot;359656&quot;]Can&#039;t wait till Machida beats him and he leaves the UFC.

Biggest cry baby in MMA.[/quote]

I smell a hater.. Tito is one of the fighters who made the UFC what it is today.  You can&#039;t deny that.[/quote]
true that[/quote]

I never denied that.  Him being a cry baby and the biggest walking excuse has nothing to do with his contributions to the sport.  No one can take away the fact that he was the original poster boy of UFC.  He&#039;s a legend.

But really what&#039;s he done lately???  A draw to Rashad Evans?  What a terrible fight that was on both fighters account.  Before that a TKO loss to Liddell.  Before that 2 wins over Shamrock(big f-cking deal), before that a Split Decision over Forrest that he obviously lost.  Round 2 and 3 was both Griffin&#039;s.  Then we got the snooze-fest in his Split Decision with Belfort.  Jesus, the guy hasn&#039;t had an exciting fight resulting in a W in f-cking years.

All he does is cry.  Before the Evans fight he said he was 100%, no excuses.  What&#039;s he say immediately after the fight to Joe Rogan?  &quot;Oh I tore something in my back during training&quot;.  He needs to go to another organization where he can make the ridiculous pay he wants (and deserves) and rule their Light Heavyweight Division, cause he&#039;s days at the top in the UFC are over.

He is now what Ken Shamrock was when he fought him.  A one dimensional fighter in an ever changing MMA landscape.  Shamrock didn&#039;t evolve and he was smashed all three times by the more evolved Ortiz.  The ground and pound can&#039;t work on everyone.  That&#039;s Tito&#039;s bread and butter.

He needs to evolve.  Quit Crying.  Win some significant fights.  And prove that he is still a legend.  Hell, he&#039;s only 33.[/quote]
SO....when tito smashes this number 5 ranked fighter you will stop bashing him....c&#039;mon dude his last couple loses has been to great fighters 1.randy best in business period.2.chuck liddell lost twice to him...so what at least hes fighting competition 3. beat the number 1 contender griffin man i wouldnt say hes a walkthrough.4. evans ..ok he tied him he held the fence he just got caught how many other fighters do that and dont get caught...all i am saying is DONT sit here and tell me he dont fight good fighters ok, he dont duck

fights and if he loses big deal he still is a great fighter period.....nobody said that chuck was done when he lost to page,then jardine what did he do comeback and beat silva in a slugfest. so every one the bashes tito is just haters that dont like him cause he speaks his mind. he is not arrogant i call it being confident.[/quote]

I never said he didn&#039;t fight great competition.  &quot;Come on, dude.&quot;  He&#039;s lost to the best, but when is the last time he dominated a fighter that was 100% in their prime??????

A long fucking time ago.  He beat Forrest Griffin only on paper.  Only because the judges.  Rounds 2 and 3 were clearly won by Griffin.  It was a worse decision than the Bisping/Hamil uproar in London.
He is a legend, but like I said, when he starts dominating top names instead of losing to them, I&#039;m not gonna call him a great fighter.  He used to be, but that was 3 years ago at least.  Ken Shamrock...do you call him a great fighter still?????

NO, because he&#039;s not.  He never evolved.  Tito is getting close...he needs some significant wins over Top Names to regain his status.

Ground and pound can&#039;t win every match.[/quote]
tito will never get the reconition he deserves period you know this and so do i. he has five losses on his mma record and three of them are against randy,chuck twice....in my eyes nothing to be ashamed of,he beat forrest and all i hear is a bad judges decision,and when he beats machida all we will hear is ....all he was unproven anyway....or something like that...FACT is that dana is so jealouse of tito in his eyes tito is a punk. im sorry i dont think hes a punk,i like confidence better and when he smashes machida i cant wait till he flips dana the finger and tells the ufc to suck it!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="361045"][quote comment="360156"][quote comment="359833"][quote comment="359787"][quote comment="359676"][quote comment="359656"]Can&#8217;t wait till Machida beats him and he leaves the UFC.</p>
<p>Biggest cry baby in MMA.[/quote]</p>
<p>I smell a hater.. Tito is one of the fighters who made the UFC what it is today.  You can&#8217;t deny that.[/quote]<br />
true that[/quote]</p>
<p>I never denied that.  Him being a cry baby and the biggest walking excuse has nothing to do with his contributions to the sport.  No one can take away the fact that he was the original poster boy of UFC.  He&#8217;s a legend.</p>
<p>But really what&#8217;s he done lately???  A draw to Rashad Evans?  What a terrible fight that was on both fighters account.  Before that a TKO loss to Liddell.  Before that 2 wins over Shamrock(big f-cking deal), before that a Split Decision over Forrest that he obviously lost.  Round 2 and 3 was both Griffin&#8217;s.  Then we got the snooze-fest in his Split Decision with Belfort.  Jesus, the guy hasn&#8217;t had an exciting fight resulting in a W in f-cking years.</p>
<p>All he does is cry.  Before the Evans fight he said he was 100%, no excuses.  What&#8217;s he say immediately after the fight to Joe Rogan?  &#8220;Oh I tore something in my back during training&#8221;.  He needs to go to another organization where he can make the ridiculous pay he wants (and deserves) and rule their Light Heavyweight Division, cause he&#8217;s days at the top in the UFC are over.</p>
<p>He is now what Ken Shamrock was when he fought him.  A one dimensional fighter in an ever changing MMA landscape.  Shamrock didn&#8217;t evolve and he was smashed all three times by the more evolved Ortiz.  The ground and pound can&#8217;t work on everyone.  That&#8217;s Tito&#8217;s bread and butter.</p>
<p>He needs to evolve.  Quit Crying.  Win some significant fights.  And prove that he is still a legend.  Hell, he&#8217;s only 33.[/quote]<br />
SO&#8230;.when tito smashes this number 5 ranked fighter you will stop bashing him&#8230;.c&#8217;mon dude his last couple loses has been to great fighters 1.randy best in business period.2.chuck liddell lost twice to him&#8230;so what at least hes fighting competition 3. beat the number 1 contender griffin man i wouldnt say hes a walkthrough.4. evans ..ok he tied him he held the fence he just got caught how many other fighters do that and dont get caught&#8230;all i am saying is DONT sit here and tell me he dont fight good fighters ok, he dont duck</p>
<p>fights and if he loses big deal he still is a great fighter period&#8230;..nobody said that chuck was done when he lost to page,then jardine what did he do comeback and beat silva in a slugfest. so every one the bashes tito is just haters that dont like him cause he speaks his mind. he is not arrogant i call it being confident.[/quote]</p>
<p>I never said he didn&#8217;t fight great competition.  &#8220;Come on, dude.&#8221;  He&#8217;s lost to the best, but when is the last time he dominated a fighter that was 100% in their prime??????</p>
<p>A long fucking time ago.  He beat Forrest Griffin only on paper.  Only because the judges.  Rounds 2 and 3 were clearly won by Griffin.  It was a worse decision than the Bisping/Hamil uproar in London.<br />
He is a legend, but like I said, when he starts dominating top names instead of losing to them, I&#8217;m not gonna call him a great fighter.  He used to be, but that was 3 years ago at least.  Ken Shamrock&#8230;do you call him a great fighter still?????</p>
<p>NO, because he&#8217;s not.  He never evolved.  Tito is getting close&#8230;he needs some significant wins over Top Names to regain his status.</p>
<p>Ground and pound can&#8217;t win every match.[/quote]<br />
tito will never get the reconition he deserves period you know this and so do i. he has five losses on his mma record and three of them are against randy,chuck twice&#8230;.in my eyes nothing to be ashamed of,he beat forrest and all i hear is a bad judges decision,and when he beats machida all we will hear is &#8230;.all he was unproven anyway&#8230;.or something like that&#8230;FACT is that dana is so jealouse of tito in his eyes tito is a punk. im sorry i dont think hes a punk,i like confidence better and when he smashes machida i cant wait till he flips dana the finger and tells the ufc to suck it!!!</p>
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		<title>By: kama kaze</title>
		<link>http://mmamania.com/2008/03/11/tito-ortiz-media-mania/comment-page-1/#comment-361197</link>
		<dc:creator>kama kaze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;361179&quot;]Tito has no interest in MMA anymore I feel...Tito wants to be a celebrity now...I don&#039;t think his heart is all there because he is too wrapped up in trying to live a Hollywood lifestyle.  I mean I wanna hear him talk about fighting and training...I could care less if him and his plastic toy are trying to conceive a kid. I mean Celebrity Apprentice?  That pretty much sums up the direction Tito is looking to move towards...[/quote]

yup... i had that same assessment in the last tito post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="361179"]Tito has no interest in MMA anymore I feel&#8230;Tito wants to be a celebrity now&#8230;I don&#8217;t think his heart is all there because he is too wrapped up in trying to live a Hollywood lifestyle.  I mean I wanna hear him talk about fighting and training&#8230;I could care less if him and his plastic toy are trying to conceive a kid. I mean Celebrity Apprentice?  That pretty much sums up the direction Tito is looking to move towards&#8230;[/quote]</p>
<p>yup&#8230; i had that same assessment in the last tito post.</p>
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		<title>By: DaGrizzlyBear</title>
		<link>http://mmamania.com/2008/03/11/tito-ortiz-media-mania/comment-page-1/#comment-361179</link>
		<dc:creator>DaGrizzlyBear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tito has no interest in MMA anymore I feel...Tito wants to be a celebrity now...I don&#039;t think his heart is all there because he is too wrapped up in trying to live a Hollywood lifestyle.  I mean I wanna hear him talk about fighting and training...I could care less if him and his plastic toy are trying to conceive a kid. I mean Celebrity Apprentice?  That pretty much sums up the direction Tito is looking to move towards...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tito has no interest in MMA anymore I feel&#8230;Tito wants to be a celebrity now&#8230;I don&#8217;t think his heart is all there because he is too wrapped up in trying to live a Hollywood lifestyle.  I mean I wanna hear him talk about fighting and training&#8230;I could care less if him and his plastic toy are trying to conceive a kid. I mean Celebrity Apprentice?  That pretty much sums up the direction Tito is looking to move towards&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kama kaze</title>
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		<dc:creator>kama kaze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a lot of you haters need to try 3 rounds @ 100% before they start talking that crybaby mess. then come back and tell us whats hurting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a lot of you haters need to try 3 rounds @ 100% before they start talking that crybaby mess. then come back and tell us whats hurting.</p>
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		<title>By: Cool Hand Chad</title>
		<link>http://mmamania.com/2008/03/11/tito-ortiz-media-mania/comment-page-1/#comment-361045</link>
		<dc:creator>Cool Hand Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;360156&quot;][quote comment=&quot;359833&quot;][quote comment=&quot;359787&quot;][quote comment=&quot;359676&quot;][quote comment=&quot;359656&quot;]Can&#039;t wait till Machida beats him and he leaves the UFC.

Biggest cry baby in MMA.[/quote]

I smell a hater.. Tito is one of the fighters who made the UFC what it is today.  You can&#039;t deny that.[/quote]
true that[/quote]

I never denied that.  Him being a cry baby and the biggest walking excuse has nothing to do with his contributions to the sport.  No one can take away the fact that he was the original poster boy of UFC.  He&#039;s a legend.

But really what&#039;s he done lately???  A draw to Rashad Evans?  What a terrible fight that was on both fighters account.  Before that a TKO loss to Liddell.  Before that 2 wins over Shamrock(big f-cking deal), before that a Split Decision over Forrest that he obviously lost.  Round 2 and 3 was both Griffin&#039;s.  Then we got the snooze-fest in his Split Decision with Belfort.  Jesus, the guy hasn&#039;t had an exciting fight resulting in a W in f-cking years.

All he does is cry.  Before the Evans fight he said he was 100%, no excuses.  What&#039;s he say immediately after the fight to Joe Rogan?  &quot;Oh I tore something in my back during training&quot;.  He needs to go to another organization where he can make the ridiculous pay he wants (and deserves) and rule their Light Heavyweight Division, cause he&#039;s days at the top in the UFC are over.

He is now what Ken Shamrock was when he fought him.  A one dimensional fighter in an ever changing MMA landscape.  Shamrock didn&#039;t evolve and he was smashed all three times by the more evolved Ortiz.  The ground and pound can&#039;t work on everyone.  That&#039;s Tito&#039;s bread and butter.

He needs to evolve.  Quit Crying.  Win some significant fights.  And prove that he is still a legend.  Hell, he&#039;s only 33.[/quote]
SO....when tito smashes this number 5 ranked fighter you will stop bashing him....c&#039;mon dude his last couple loses has been to great fighters 1.randy best in business period.2.chuck liddell lost twice to him...so what at least hes fighting competition 3. beat the number 1 contender griffin man i wouldnt say hes a walkthrough.4. evans ..ok he tied him he held the fence he just got caught how many other fighters do that and dont get caught...all i am saying is DONT sit here and tell me he dont fight good fighters ok, he dont duck

fights and if he loses big deal he still is a great fighter period.....nobody said that chuck was done when he lost to page,then jardine what did he do comeback and beat silva in a slugfest. so every one the bashes tito is just haters that dont like him cause he speaks his mind. he is not arrogant i call it being confident.[/quote]

I never said he didn&#039;t fight great competition.  &quot;Come on, dude.&quot;  He&#039;s lost to the best, but when is the last time he dominated a fighter that was 100% in their prime??????   A long fucking time ago.  He beat Forrest Griffin only on paper.  Only because the judges.  Rounds 2 and 3 were clearly won by Griffin.  It was a worse decision than the Bisping/Hamil uproar in London.
He is a legend, but like I said, when he starts dominating top names instead of losing to them, I&#039;m not gonna call him a great fighter.  He used to be, but that was 3 years ago at least.  Ken Shamrock...do you call him a great fighter still?????   NO, because he&#039;s not.  He never evolved.  Tito is getting close...he needs some significant wins over Top Names to regain his status.

Ground and pound can&#039;t win every match.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="360156"][quote comment="359833"][quote comment="359787"][quote comment="359676"][quote comment="359656"]Can&#8217;t wait till Machida beats him and he leaves the UFC.</p>
<p>Biggest cry baby in MMA.[/quote]</p>
<p>I smell a hater.. Tito is one of the fighters who made the UFC what it is today.  You can&#8217;t deny that.[/quote]<br />
true that[/quote]</p>
<p>I never denied that.  Him being a cry baby and the biggest walking excuse has nothing to do with his contributions to the sport.  No one can take away the fact that he was the original poster boy of UFC.  He&#8217;s a legend.</p>
<p>But really what&#8217;s he done lately???  A draw to Rashad Evans?  What a terrible fight that was on both fighters account.  Before that a TKO loss to Liddell.  Before that 2 wins over Shamrock(big f-cking deal), before that a Split Decision over Forrest that he obviously lost.  Round 2 and 3 was both Griffin&#8217;s.  Then we got the snooze-fest in his Split Decision with Belfort.  Jesus, the guy hasn&#8217;t had an exciting fight resulting in a W in f-cking years.</p>
<p>All he does is cry.  Before the Evans fight he said he was 100%, no excuses.  What&#8217;s he say immediately after the fight to Joe Rogan?  &#8220;Oh I tore something in my back during training&#8221;.  He needs to go to another organization where he can make the ridiculous pay he wants (and deserves) and rule their Light Heavyweight Division, cause he&#8217;s days at the top in the UFC are over.</p>
<p>He is now what Ken Shamrock was when he fought him.  A one dimensional fighter in an ever changing MMA landscape.  Shamrock didn&#8217;t evolve and he was smashed all three times by the more evolved Ortiz.  The ground and pound can&#8217;t work on everyone.  That&#8217;s Tito&#8217;s bread and butter.</p>
<p>He needs to evolve.  Quit Crying.  Win some significant fights.  And prove that he is still a legend.  Hell, he&#8217;s only 33.[/quote]<br />
SO&#8230;.when tito smashes this number 5 ranked fighter you will stop bashing him&#8230;.c&#8217;mon dude his last couple loses has been to great fighters 1.randy best in business period.2.chuck liddell lost twice to him&#8230;so what at least hes fighting competition 3. beat the number 1 contender griffin man i wouldnt say hes a walkthrough.4. evans ..ok he tied him he held the fence he just got caught how many other fighters do that and dont get caught&#8230;all i am saying is DONT sit here and tell me he dont fight good fighters ok, he dont duck</p>
<p>fights and if he loses big deal he still is a great fighter period&#8230;..nobody said that chuck was done when he lost to page,then jardine what did he do comeback and beat silva in a slugfest. so every one the bashes tito is just haters that dont like him cause he speaks his mind. he is not arrogant i call it being confident.[/quote]</p>
<p>I never said he didn&#8217;t fight great competition.  &#8220;Come on, dude.&#8221;  He&#8217;s lost to the best, but when is the last time he dominated a fighter that was 100% in their prime??????   A long fucking time ago.  He beat Forrest Griffin only on paper.  Only because the judges.  Rounds 2 and 3 were clearly won by Griffin.  It was a worse decision than the Bisping/Hamil uproar in London.<br />
He is a legend, but like I said, when he starts dominating top names instead of losing to them, I&#8217;m not gonna call him a great fighter.  He used to be, but that was 3 years ago at least.  Ken Shamrock&#8230;do you call him a great fighter still?????   NO, because he&#8217;s not.  He never evolved.  Tito is getting close&#8230;he needs some significant wins over Top Names to regain his status.</p>
<p>Ground and pound can&#8217;t win every match.</p>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;360612&quot;]Trying for a baby? Has Jenna got any insides left? :) Thought she&#039;d ground them away and ebayed the remains!
Man it must be a nightmare going out with Jenna, I wouldn&#039;t like the idea of paddling in 1500 other guys sludge. YUK[/quote]
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="360612"]Trying for a baby? Has Jenna got any insides left? <img src='http://mmamania.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Thought she&#8217;d ground them away and ebayed the remains!<br />
Man it must be a nightmare going out with Jenna, I wouldn&#8217;t like the idea of paddling in 1500 other guys sludge. YUK[/quote]<br />
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