Season two heavyweight winner of The Ultimate Fighter (TUF), Rashad Evans, has been tabbed to replace the injured Mauricio “Shogun” Rua and will take on former light heavyweight champion, Chuck Liddell, during the main event at UFC 85 on June 7 from the O2 Arena in London, England, according to Sherdog.com.
Evans was originally booked to take on Thiago Silva at UFC 84: “Ill Will” on May 24; however, it appears that the UFC had to shuffle the deck to ensure that the “Iceman” went up against a notable opponent.
Rua ruptured the Anterior Cruciate Ligament (ACL) in his left knee training for the bout just yesterday, leaving the promotion in a lurch because essentially all the top 205-pound fighters were matched up in other bouts.
Evans just headlined the UFC 78: “Validation” pay-per-view (PPV) event in November 2007, defeating Michael Bisping via split decision. He’s been undefeated throughout his career and has posted six wins inside the Octagon and one draw.
Liddell is still riding high after his unanimous decision win over Wanderlei Silva at UFC 79: “Nemesis” in December 2007. Prior to the win he dropped back-to-back losses to Rampage Jackson and Keith Jardine.
It’s too bad it appears we’re not going to see Evans and Silva battle it out — was looking forward to that match up. Evans has the popularity and name recognition among casual fans that more than likely led to the selection.
The former Michigan State University wrestler will certainly test the legendary Liddell sprawl and poses several different challenges than Rua. However, Liddell has more than enough time to adjust to the style change (if he even needs it) with the fight still three months out.
Of course, there’s no word on a new opponent for Silva at this time. Stay tuned.
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well at least we got an opponent. personally, not a fan of rashad’s, but if he can pull this off, he’s gets a title fight.
rashad does not really have a chance in this fight….not sure how he wins fights.
Haha….guess rashad put all ya’ll haters RIGHT in your place. Rashad is BAD
I love Chuck Liddell, Rashad Evans knocking him out doesn’t prove anything, it only takes one punch to knock someone out. Chuck didn’t get caught slippin, just Rashad Evans got caught not slippin. Chuck is still the love of my life.
Put the haters right in there place huh?? Well Rashad did nothing more than play with his nipples and dance around the ring and ABSOLUTELY got LUCKY, he waited and waited and waited and waited some more, by dancing around because he is SCARED to get hit. FACE IT if he would have “stepped up” like he said he would in alllllllllllllll of his interviews then he would have gotten beaten or knocked out, he couldnt stand one on one with liddell hence the reason he had to dance around like a little fairy until he got lucky with a wild cross. Because if you look closely liddell finally just said F**K it and threw a NASTY uppercut that would have DROPPED evans, but evans just so happened to time a wild right cross when liddell dropped his left just low enough when he shifted his weight to through that brutal uppercut. Bottom line evans needs to be on dancing with the stars not UFC, because all he does is dances around wasting time and lands a few hits just to score points on his opponent, how many people has he knocked out?????????? How many people has liddell knocked out??????? ok then, big deal. liddell will come back for his rematch and take evans rythym out of his step.
You are so right, could not have said it better myself
give chuck 2 months to retrain and i guarantee that there will be a rematch between him and rashad evans
NOOOOOOOOO NO NO just no
I wanted to see Thiago Silva fight Rashad
my 2 most hated fighters,,,i was praying thiago got to beat down either 1 of these 2 punks
i also noticed that it says:
“Evans was originally booked to take on Thiago Silva at UFC 84: “Ill Will” on May 24; however, it appears that the UFC had to shuffle the deck to ensure that the “Iceman” went up against a notable opponent.”
this is obviously applying that Silva is not a notable opponent…..very interesting. dana white must get arroused by rashad.
Oh my god they killed rashad!
It could jus be a way to put number in that Loss column for Rashad to put back in his place and out of the title picture.
I wonder why they game him rashad? Oh yeah much easier match up and a bigger name. Thaigo is like a bigger version of Wanderlie Silva, theres an article from brazil where he says he used to go toe to toe with Shogun and Wandy back in his early Chute Box days. I’l try to find it! No way Dana wants chuck to loose to much money is at stake.
Settle down..If anything happens this fight will end by decision..Rashad isn’t going to get Ko’ed, and he definately won’t KO The Iceman…Chuck is defanetly going to have to win by KO or a nice ass decision so secure his spot for a re-match with Liddell. If Rashad takes this one fashionably, i think he’s got his shot at the Title?…Or no?
[quote comment=”347517″]Settle down..If anything happens this fight will end by decision..Rashad isn’t going to get Ko’ed, and he definately won’t KO The Iceman…Chuck is defanetly going to have to win by KO or a nice ass decision so secure his spot for a re-match with Liddell. If Rashad takes this one fashionably, i think he’s got his shot at the Title?…Or no?[/quote]
Sorry, i mean’t a re-match with Rampage…
GREAT NEWS! I didn’t want Chuck to fight some unknown fighter. This will be a good match even though I wanted to see Thiago vs Rashad, too.
[quote comment=”347504″]I wanted to see Thiago Silva fight Rashad[/quote]
I agree, or even Thiago vs Chuck, but he’s not quite the marquee name yet…Well it doesn’t look like we’ll see my dream match for 08, Shogun vs Tito… This fight is obvious bc Rashad and Chuck are Dana’s boys, and next in line for a title shot in Dec.
[quote comment=”347510″]It could jus be a way to put number in that Loss column for Rashad to put back in his place and out of the title picture.[/quote]
That is exactly what this is. Keep their big ticket fighter Chuck in win coloumn and keep Rashad big…. but not too big.
That said though, this gives Rashad his chance to be true contender.
rashad doesn’t have a chance. will this be the fight that makes rashad consider the drop to 85? maybe. chuck is to big to rahsad. knock out for sure.
anybody know who thiago is gonna fight instead, or is his fight in may scrapped, i hope not. i wanna see more of him he looks like he could be serious threat.
off topic……mania any word on arlovski’s situation????
Horrible!!! Good thing it’s free…
This is bad. So very bad. I really wanted the UFC to bring Vitor back into the mix … god damn Joe Silva.
It will be interesting to see how Keith Jardine’s victory will help Rashad as they train together. In saying that, I think Chuck would smash Jardine again if they fought.
I’d rather see him fight another stand up guy like Houston Alexander… This fight with Rashad doesn’t interest me at all! But, maybe he already has something going on?
This was my first thought when i read that Shogun was out. Too bad, I think Rashad is overrated and boring.
its too bad brock lesnar would own chuckie and shad
All right, I like the the matchup. The standup vs wrestler, in thiscase, should be a good one and I’m excited to hear the news. I could see it going both ways, unless the old Chuck comes to the octagon.
Should have been Thiago vs. Chuck!
I like Rashad, but I see Chuck picking him apart.
Cool I finally get to see Rashad lose.
I mean come on, style wise Chuck is tailor made to beat someone like ol’ ‘Dry Hump’ Evans. He’ll have a hard time taking Chuck down, he won’t be able to hold him down. He has only finished two guys in his undefeated career, and one was because Salmon ducked into a kick. As long as Chuck doesn’t have a mental lapse like he did against Jardine, this is an easy win for him.
not today!! Evans had been my favorite figher since UF season 2. what yall haters got to say now?
[quote comment=”347657″]Cool I finally get to see Rashad lose.
I mean come on, style wise Chuck is tailor made to beat someone like ol’ ‘Dry Hump’ Evans. He’ll have a hard time taking Chuck down, he won’t be able to hold him down. He has only finished two guys in his undefeated career, and one was because Salmon ducked into a kick. As long as Chuck doesn’t have a mental lapse like he did against Jardine, this is an easy win for him.[/quote]
I agree. It is a perfect match up for Chuck, it’s basically like him fighting Tito again (and we all know how those fights go). Unless Chuck forgets how to defend the takedown he shouldn’t have a problem winning this fight.
[quote comment=”347507″]i also noticed that it says:
“Evans was originally booked to take on Thiago Silva at UFC 84: “Ill Will” on May 24; however, it appears that the UFC had to shuffle the deck to ensure that the “Iceman” went up against a notable opponent.”
this is obviously applying that Silva is not a notable opponent…..very interesting. dana white must get arroused by rashad.[/quote]
[quote comment=”347507″]i also noticed that it says:
“Evans was originally booked to take on Thiago Silva at UFC 84: “Ill Will” on May 24; however, it appears that the UFC had to shuffle the deck to ensure that the “Iceman” went up against a notable opponent.”
this is obviously applying that Silva is not a notable opponent…..very interesting. dana white must get arroused by rashad.[/quote]
It’s true, Thiago Silva isn’t a notable opponent. When they say “notable” they are referring to their notoriety. Since Rashad was on TUF and has had a bunch of fights in the UFC he is far more well-known than Thiago Silva.
Rashad has this one. Wrestles out a disappointing decision.
Chuck will be able to stuff the takedowns, he’ll work with the Cal Poly wrestling team to work on that. Rashad is going to be eating punches all night and I see Chuck taking this in two! I would have loved to have seen Chuck KO Shogun though!
[quote comment=”347601″]its too bad brock lesnar would own chuckie and shad[/quote]
WTF!!!there not even in the same weight class so who cares?
rashad evans, along with jon fitch, and karo parysian are fighters that i want to see get their ass K’O'eD!!
rashad evans is a punk, ill be rooting for Liddel for the first time in a long time
This is great news. I actualy like this fight better then the liddell vs. Rua.
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WOWOWOWOW!! NO WAY! Joe Silva got bribed…you gotta be kiddin me?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Rashad? Are you serious?!?!?!
thats just ridiculous thats just destroyed the whole ppv i have to watch it because of chuck but i give this ufc matchmaking call two thumbs down and a big boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
So who is Thiago gonna get now?
this fight doesn’t really make sense cause either way the winner has to wait months for a title shot, say liddell wins he has a win over an oppnet thats prolly just cracking top 5, if evans wins its a big win but he will still have to wait forever for a title shot.. if liddel wins would they give him another hsot at rampage having lost to him twice, i think lideel only has 1 title shot left.
I LOVE this fight!!! Rashad Evans is one of my picks for the future.
However I think he lacks that true (I want to kill this guy) mentality when facing his opponent. Rashad with excellent stand up and aggresive style, would be a challenge for anyone.
I’ve said for ages that to create this metamorphesis he needs to recieve a crushing (I mean really bad) defeat. I think this may be one situation where either way Evans wins.
“Then rise from the ashes like the pheonix”
I would have rather seen Rashad get exposed for an overrated fighter by Thiago Silva. Now Liddell will get a free KO win and bump his status for pretty much free. Sad, sad day.
Chuck has written the book on how to beat wrestlers. He knocks out Rashad.
[quote comment=”347836″]Chuck has written the book on how to beat wrestlers. He knocks out Rashad.[/quote]
this fight goes to split decision
[quote comment=”347505″]my 2 most hated fighters,,,i was praying thiago got to beat down either 1 of these 2 punks[/quote]
Dude, if you think Chuck sucks, you need to watch more Chuck Liddell. Look up his biography, watch his documentary, you will then come to realize not only is he a furious relentless competitor, he is a very decent nice human being. He is a real fighter, unlike Tito Ortiz, he simply loves the competition of fighting, and puts on a show and leaves it all in there every tim he fights. We are talking about a guy that ASKED to fight Babalu, who was considered one of the best 205ers on the world at the time, even though he was guaranteed a title shot at the winner of Tito and Ken. He just wanted to get in there and fight and put it all out there because hes a real fighter for the love of it. He has always fought the best the UFC had to offer in his career, and he has never ducked a single opponent. Hes a real fighter man, please show the guy some respect. dont get me wrong, I dont think Chuck is the best fighter in the world right now but he has the heart and soul of a champion and fighter and he always will, that in my mind firmly establishes the fact that he definetly deserves respect from the fans.
[quote comment=”347523″]GREAT NEWS! I didn’t want Chuck to fight some unknown fighter. This will be a good match even though I wanted to see Thiago vs Rashad, too.[/quote]
You’re kidding Shu…… You need to do your research.
Thiago WALKS through Chuck & Rashad no worries. Chuck and Rashad should be a great fight but neither of these guys are belt prospects. All due respect to Chuck of course.
[quote comment=”347818″]I would have rather seen Rashad get exposed for an overrated fighter by Thiago Silva. Now Liddell will get a free KO win and bump his status for pretty much free. Sad, sad day.[/quote]
Correct weight TB, it’s not so much sad as a let down. I was stoked to see Thiago and Machida work their magic in the next couple of months. (I’m a closet Ortiz fan too so it’s a double wammy!)
Would rather see Thiago against Chuck but oh well. Thiago needs a noteworthy fight…someone TOP 5.
[quote comment=”347981″][quote comment=”347523″]GREAT NEWS! I didn’t want Chuck to fight some unknown fighter. This will be a good match even though I wanted to see Thiago vs Rashad, too.[/quote]
You’re kidding Shu…… You need to do your research.
Thiago WALKS through Chuck & Rashad no worries. Chuck and Rashad should be a great fight but neither of these guys are belt prospects. All due respect to Chuck of course.[/quote]
Are you kidding me?? There is a whole lot of hate for Chuck at the moment, to say that Thiago ‘walks’ through him is a terrible call.
Chuck just dominated Wandy who is basically a better version of Thaigo. His counter punching suits the aggressive chute box style of fighting.
Damn boring “fight”, Chuck by anything… prolly a TKO in the first.
Well I know Shogun got injured, Shogun would’ve got a chance though, but I mean Evans… atleast Chuck will beat the crap out of him!
I hope Chuck will do a quick win out of this, the less time I’ve to watch Evans fight.
This is a fight to put money on… HUGE money, I’m not even near to be rich but the little cash I’ve got is going into a bet on Chuck… and I don’t even like Chuck as a fighter, but Evans have nothing on him.
First time that a TUF winner has fought a TUF coach.
If… When Rashad wins this he should be next in line for a title shot.
man, rashad will gonna hold down chuck to victory via desicion,
sucks!!
I would love to see Rashad, out cold. Would’ve liked to see the Rua fight more though. I’ll take what I can get.
[quote comment=”347509″]Oh my god they killed rashad![/quote]
“You bastards!”
“man, rashad will gonna hold down chuck to victory via desicion,
sucks!!”
YES, OF COUUUUUURSE DUDE…
CAUSE SOOOOOOO MANY WRESTLERS BEFORE HIM HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT. HAHA
Emanuel0523
Mar 6th, 2008 at 12:42 am Quote this comment
Oh my god they killed rashad! (FUUUUUNNY STUFF!!!)
GrahfZilla
Mar 6th, 2008 at 4:00 am Quote this comment
Chuck has written the book on how to beat wrestlers. He knocks out Rashad. (SOOOOO TRUE!!!)
This is a horrible decision! TERRIBLE! I was very much looking forward to Tiago vs. Rashad. I would rather them scratch the Liddell fight all together.
Funny how the UFC broke up the Silva/Rashad match up for Chuck, instead of the Machida/Ortiz fight.
Rashad vs. Tiago should have still taken place and they should have scratched Tito and matched up Liddell vs. Machida… Since Tito, doesnt really want to fight machida anyway, then again, neither does Chuck…..and what chuck wants chuck gets.
This match up sucks! Chuck will have a 2 foot reach advantage over Rashad, and he will just keep his distance and pick Ol’ “Suga” apart.
Too bad that Chuck and his camp want to part of Machida, because Chuck vs. Machida is the best possible match up, and that way we would still get to see Tiago vs. Rashad.
As for Tiago, If I had match making power, I would scratch Nakamura and have Tiago Silva vs. Soukoudjou!
This will be a good fight…lol@ everybody doubting Rashad…
[quote comment=”347804″]I LOVE this fight!!! Rashad Evans is one of my picks for the future.
However I think he lacks that true (I want to kill this guy) mentality when facing his opponent. Rashad with excellent stand up and aggresive style, would be a challenge for anyone.
I’ve said for ages that to create this metamorphesis he needs to recieve a crushing (I mean really bad) defeat. I think this may be one situation where either way Evans wins.
“Then rise from the ashes like the pheonix”[/quote]
I agree with this 100%. I like Rashad and I think he has some really good skills but he doesn’t have that killer instinct. I think a loss would almost be more beneficial than a win for him…although I’d love to see him win. A loss to Chuck wouldn’t set him back too far since he will be the underdog heavily in this fight. A win should set himself up for a title shot or at least a #1 contenders match with Machida if he wins.
Chuck has way too much reach on Rashad… Chucks going to win this fight, and the UFC will then un justly award Chuck another title shot against Rampage after he hurts Forrest…
Great, first news of the day and it sucks. give me something good joe silva!
[quote comment=”348063″]First time that a TUF winner has fought a TUF coach.
If… When Rashad wins this he should be next in line for a title shot.[/quote]
Forrest vs Tito
Stevenson vs Penn
Serra vs ST Pierre
and Lutter vs Franklin comin up soon
All I have to say if this is the main event it better be for free on TV..
UFC 85 or UFC 86?
You got to be fucking kidding me…
I like it - Chuck’s best fights are with guys who are primarily wrestlers (Randy, Tito, Babalu). His main skill is being to avoid a takedown in order to pick a guy apart on his fight. Basically it’s been too long since I’ve seen a Liddell knockout and I hope that’s the way this one goes.
Everyone counts Rashad out for every one of his fights so this one is no different. I’m a Rashad fan but I was really looking forward to Rashad vs Thiago and I also think that Thiago vs Silva would be more interesting of a fight because Silva has better hands. UFC had to take Rashad over Thiago for this fight only because Rashad has been in a main event before and has more name recognition to the average fan because of TUF.
This is definitely a tough fight for Rashad and will really determine whether or no he has the ability to be a top contender. Rashad has great wrestling but Chuck has an amazing sprawl so it’ll be interesting to see if Rashad can get those hooks in and pick Chuck up and slam him…I’d love to see that but it’ll be awfully tough. The reach advantage Chuck will have is going to be a problem but Rashad has fought others with long reaches before but not with the striking ability of Liddell. The big advantage that Rashad has is that he trains with Jardine who beat Chuck. I think Rashad really needs to work on the leg kicks just like Jardine did. Rashad has a solid chin so he’ll be able to take some abuse but it’ll be tough if Chuck charges in and pins him against the fence with punches. Rashad has decent hands and he’ll really have to let them go this time…not like against Bisping where he held back too much. If Rashad can get Chuck on his back then he’s really going to need to do some serious work down there to keep him down and score some points. Holding him down won’t be enough in this fight cause the takedown opportunities won’t come by too often. I’d like to see Rashad pull out a few surprises for Chuck…maybe a spinning body kick or flying heel hook…lol.
He’s going to have to fight for the win…not fight just not to lose like he has against Bisping and Tito…that won’t be enough against Chuck. Like I said before…a loss will help Rashad a lot and maybe this is the best time for him to take that loss since losing to Chuck won’t kill him in the standings too badly. I think that would take a lot of pressure off Rashad and he’d finally be able to let loose a bit more and be more aggresive. It’s win-win for Rashad but if Chuck loses…he’ll have a hellofva a climb back up that ladder.
Chuck has a lot of weapons and should be favored in this fight but don’t count out Rashad…he’s undefeated and there’s a reason for that. I know he’s not the most exciting fighter there is but he gets the job done. I hope he really lets loose this fight.
Oh yeah before I forget, lycan, if you’re reading this I guess most of us don’t really have sh*t for brains, but you do LMAO. Eat your words!
I am definitely not a fan of Rashad, but don’t count him out so quickly. His camp will have the blueprint on how to beat chuck via Keith Jardine. Chuck had a hard time connected on Keith because Keith employed lots of legs kick and did an excellent job of keeping his hands up and his chin down. Chuck just kept tagging Keith on the top of the head. Greg Jackson will make sure the Rashad’s game plan is spot on.
Rashad? If the UFC was willing to scrap a fight that was already booked, Sugar was the best that they can come up with? Huh?
I understand that out of Rashad and Thiago that Rashad gets the nod to fight in a MAIN EVENT of a PPV, seeing that he already has done so before. Meanwhile, Thiago Silva was pretty much just shown on a live broadcast for the second time. So there is no arguement from me that Rashad is the more notable opponent, however, if I had to chose which fight I’d prefer to see, I would chose Chuck vs Thiago Silva because I think it would be a much better fight.
Chuck vs Rashad should play out just like the typical Chuck Liddell fight when he was LHW champ. Chuck vs a wrestler, we’ve seen it before. Rashad is no Randy Couture, so I don’t see him beating Chuck, however, I would LOVE to see it happen.
If the UFC was willing to scarp a booked fight, I belive that Machida is the most deserving of a #1 contender fight. But like someone said, who wants to fight Machida? Definitely not Chuck. If Chuck doesn’t want to fight him, the UFC will not book it.
time for the iceman to do what he does best… Sprawl and Brawl!
[quote comment=”348263″]I am definitely not a fan of Rashad, but don’t count him out so quickly. His camp will have the blueprint on how to beat chuck via Keith Jardine. Chuck had a hard time connected on Keith because Keith employed lots of legs kick and did an excellent job of keeping his hands up and his chin down. Chuck just kept tagging Keith on the top of the head. Greg Jackson will make sure the Rashad’s game plan is spot on.[/quote]
you are right, rashad is going to kill him with leg kicks.
I think Rashad will do a lot better than people think. He has shown how versatile and technical he can be when he wants to. He has a lot of different ways to finish a fight. I said that when he fought Tito that he would be able to take Tito down, and I think he will be able to do the same to Chuck. If Rashad stops trying to win a disco dancing competition when he is in the Octogan,and actually applies his skills, then I think he could very well win the fight. He is not going to be a macho fool like Wandi was and stand up in front of Chuck to be punched at will, I am sure that he will come up with an effective strategy, the same way Jardine did. If Rashad comes to fight, and not just to survive or disco dance,this could be one of few times that we see Chuck fighting of his back. I look forward to watching this fight.
[quote comment=”348269″]Rashad? If the UFC was willing to scrap a fight that was already booked, Sugar was the best that they can come up with? Huh?
I understand that out of Rashad and Thiago that Rashad gets the nod to fight in a MAIN EVENT of a PPV, seeing that he already has done so before. Meanwhile, Thiago Silva was pretty much just shown on a live broadcast for the second time. So there is no arguement from me that Rashad is the more notable opponent, however, if I had to chose which fight I’d prefer to see, I would chose Chuck vs Thiago Silva because I think it would be a much better fight.
Chuck vs Rashad should play out just like the typical Chuck Liddell fight when he was LHW champ. Chuck vs a wrestler, we’ve seen it before. Rashad is no Randy Couture, so I don’t see him beating Chuck, however, I would LOVE to see it happen.
If the UFC was willing to scarp a booked fight, I belive that Machida is the most deserving of a #1 contender fight. But like someone said, who wants to fight Machida? Definitely not Chuck. If Chuck doesn’t want to fight him, the UFC will not book it.[/quote]
That’s the key here…Rashad has already been in a main event and has a bigger, more recognizable name than Thiago and Machida put together to the “average” fan. To those of us that follow MMA intently and are hardcore fans…we’d rather see Thiago or Machida take on Chuck. Plus we all know that Chuck had a say in this matter and probably chose Evans out of those three. I’m a little surprised that they didn’t take Jardine and put the rematch together since Chuck has said he wants revenge.
There really wasn’t much the UFC could do here. Every other LHW that’s even sniffing the top 10 is booked on or very close to that event. If they wanted to bust up a fight that’s already booked they could have had Chuck fight Machida because both can reasonably be considered title contenders, and had Rashad finally rematch Tito. Sorry Thiago, you’re still in the cold.
Man, I wanted Thiago to show Chuck some pain… I understand the marketing reasons behind putting Rashad, but if it’s worth anything from a marketing standpoint, I definitely won’t pay to see Chuck Vs. Rashad.
Does anyone know who Thiago will now fight at 84? (Which by the way, is looking more and more like the next event I’ll pay for).
Rashad is going to get destroyed. Period. He’s totally unimpressive and is not even remotely on the same level at Chuck or Rampage. What a joke.
I’ll be rooting for chuck for the first time in a long time. I hope we get a highlight reel KO by chuck in this one.
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i can see why rashad took the fight, if he wins he has to get next title shot, the dude is undefeated in the ufc, i was hoping machida would fight, and besides the ufc in may has alot of firepower it still will be a good card, i am curious who thiago silva might fight next, i wouldn’t mind watching him fight james irvin again since irvin knee popped and could not continue, maybe stephan bonner, or jason lambert. rashad is better than nothing, not as good as shogun fight but still am interested in seeing the fight i don’t see it going the distance though
out of everyone in the division they choose rashad…wow
[quote comment=”347502″]well at least we got an opponent. personally, not a fan of rashad’s, but if he can pull this off, he’s gets a title fight.
rashad does not really have a chance in this fight….not sure how he wins fights.[/quote]
…not sure how he wins fights? There’s a guy named Sean Salmon you can ask… he should be waking up any second now.
is it jason kidd vs wesley snipes?
As much as I like Chuck I bet he will loose by decision or 3rd round ko. I dont think he’ll be in great shape compared to Evans. Evans late in the fight I am guessing.
[quote comment=”348145″]This is a horrible decision! TERRIBLE! I was very much looking forward to Tiago vs. Rashad. I would rather them scratch the Liddell fight all together.
Funny how the UFC broke up the Silva/Rashad match up for Chuck, instead of the Machida/Ortiz fight.
Rashad vs. Tiago should have still taken place and they should have scratched Tito and matched up Liddell vs. Machida… Since Tito, doesnt really want to fight machida anyway, then again, neither does Chuck…..and what chuck wants chuck gets.
This match up sucks! Chuck will have a 2 foot reach advantage over Rashad, and he will just keep his distance and pick Ol’ “Suga” apart.
Too bad that Chuck and his camp want to part of Machida, because Chuck vs. Machida is the best possible match up, and that way we would still get to see Tiago vs. Rashad.
As for Tiago, If I had match making power, I would scratch Nakamura and have Tiago Silva vs. Soukoudjou![/quote]
What about Tiago Silva vs. Wilson Goveia? They were both scheduled for UFC 84 anyways!
[quote comment=”348174″]This will be a good fight…lol@ everybody doubting Rashad…[/quote]
I agree…for the first round or two, maybe. If it goes into the third. Rashad will give Chuck some trouble, but I don’t think he can beat the Iceman.
[quote comment=”347504″]I wanted to see Thiago Silva fight Rashad[/quote]
I wanted Thiago Silva to crush Rashad this is a load of crap, not ordering 85 no more
Too bad. Would have liked to see Liddell vs. Machida for who gets the next title shot. Let Rashad and Tito bang it out again.
I don’t know if it’s been said or not, but what the heck is in this for Chuck? Really, if he loses…It’s terrible for him. If he wins he was expected to and boosts nothing. I don’t know about this one…
This is pathetic for a main card. Rashad is not exciting at all and not worthy of Chuck’s attention.
this puts Chuck in another bad position (same as he was in when he fought Jardine)will Chuck train hard for this fight? WIll Rashad surprise Chuck? My gut saYS NO WAY, but my gut also said that when Chuck fought Jardine…..Time will tell
I think Rashad should start working on his best Jardine impressions.
This isn’t right. Silva vs Evans would have been a good fight, and they just split it up. The last thing Liddell needs is a gimme fight. No offence to Rashad, I mean he’s undefeated for a reason, but he’s not top 5 IMO, maybe even not top 10, but that just me.
Thiago needed this fight for all the mainstream fans to realize just how much potential this guy’s got, and how much Rashad actually sucks at fighting.
Liddell needed his fight to show people he’s still got what it takes to be champ, and by beating Rashad, I really don’t think that proves anything. Beating Rashad pretty much just keeps him where he is, and losing to Rashad is going to send his career crashing to the ground.
[quote comment=”347557″]Horrible!!! Good thing it’s free…[/quote]
this ones gonna be free?
didnt hear that
Rashad sucks crap. He brings nothing but takedowns to the table.
Chuck will stuff him and pick him apart from the outside. Then when you see a trickle of blood run down the corner of his eye chuck is gonna split him from a$$hole to Appetite.
The LHW division is kinda jumbled to do this. Here is what the Pyramid of positioning should look like…
Rampage
Forrest,Jardine
Henderson, Chuck, Machida
Tiago Silva, Houston Alexander, Wandy Silva, Shogun
Rashad, Soku, Nakimura, Bonnar, Ortiz
I know the pyramid isnt on speck with wins but I feel its the how the pecking order should be…
Too bad if the UFC doesnt want Jardine as the Champ atleast give the guy a run, If it werent for Forest and Rampage on TUF
[quote comment=”347744″]rashad evans, along with jon fitch, and karo parysian are fighters that i want to see get their ass K’O'eD!!
rashad evans is a punk, ill be rooting for Liddel for the first time in a long time[/quote]
besides jon fitch i agree wit what u said 100000percent and by the way u know dana didnt want chuck anywhere near thiago cause thiago would have hurt over-rated chuck but ill b rooting for chucky cause he has proven to b good in the past rashad is the most over-rated guy in all of mma and he isnt really undeafted tito beat him but bcause the ufc hates tito they called it a draw
[quote comment=”348343″]i can see why rashad took the fight, if he wins he has to get next title shot, the dude is undefeated in the ufc, i was hoping machida would fight, and besides the ufc in may has alot of firepower it still will be a good card, i am curious who thiago silva might fight next, i wouldn’t mind watching him fight james irvin again since irvin knee popped and could not continue, maybe stephan bonner, or jason lambert. rashad is better than nothing, not as good as shogun fight but still am interested in seeing the fight i don’t see it going the distance though[/quote]
that bum rashad will never get a title shot if he does id never watch the ufc again
This might be the fight that I use to order another round and take a piss break.
[quote comment=”348510″]This isn’t right. Silva vs Evans would have been a good fight, and they just split it up. The last thing Liddell needs is a gimme fight. No offence to Rashad, I mean he’s undefeated for a reason, but he’s not top 5 IMO, maybe even not top 10, but that just me.
Thiago needed this fight for all the mainstream fans to realize just how much potential this guy’s got, and how much Rashad actually sucks at fighting.
Liddell needed his fight to show people he’s still got what it takes to be champ, and by beating Rashad, I really don’t think that proves anything. Beating Rashad pretty much just keeps him where he is, and losing to Rashad is going to send his career crashing to the ground.[/quote]
I totally agree with you. I don’t think a win over Rashad should lock Chuck into a title shot. I am a huge Chuck fan and want nothing more than to see him with the belt again, I just don’t think if he wins he deserves it yet.
I wonder if Hendo was offered the fight and turned it down? At the time we heard Shogun was hurt he seemed to be the only one not scheduled to fight.
As for Thiago I would love to see him fight Gouveia at UFC 84. I know Gouvia was already scheduled to fight a reletivly unknow fighter, but this fight makes more sense. They are both coming off big KO wins and seem to have similar stlyes that I think would make for an exciting fight.
i like Evans and all but the only way he’s gonna beat chuck, is if he brings a Louisville Slugger in the cage.
[quote comment=”348564″]i like Evans and all but the only way he’s gonna beat chuck, is if he brings a Louisville Slugger in the cage.[/quote]
..and Chuck’s not looking. lol
[quote comment=”348547″]This might be the fight that I use to order another round and take a piss break.[/quote]
Or you could just turn off the TV since it sounds like right now it’s going to be the last fight of the night. Unless of course they do what I say and hurry up and re-sign AA and put him and Nog on this card for the HW title.
The die hard Liddell fans are going to love it. They get to see the old Chuck again, before he had to be well rounded.
What are the odds that Liddell has a beer gut for this fight?
[quote comment=”347523″]GREAT NEWS! I didn’t want Chuck to fight some unknown fighter. This will be a good match even though I wanted to see Thiago vs Rashad, too.[/quote]
shogun was definitely not a no name…. unless ure new to the game
[quote comment=”348583″][quote comment=”347523″]GREAT NEWS! I didn’t want Chuck to fight some unknown fighter. This will be a good match even though I wanted to see Thiago vs Rashad, too.[/quote]
shogun was definitely not a no name…. unless ure new to the game[/quote]
I think he meant since shogun got hurt.
How come no one else finds anything wrong with the fact that UFC president Dana White used to be Chuck Liddells manager????? That doesn’t strike anyone else as odd? Could this be why Dana does whatever it takes to keep Chuck in the midst of the title picture and in the mix in terms of his name?
I don’t think they could get away with putting him against a no name fighter.
Thiago has only been fighting for three yrs. And his only two notible opponents are Houston Alexander & James Irvin both by TKO, not top level guys. Everybody who wants Thiago/Chuck are nuthugers they see Thiago destroy Houston and thats it he’s the man and he should fight all the big names. Take it easy guys let the man get experience with class A fighters and then we will see. Rashad is a way better name for Chuck, thats what most people wanted now you don’t make up your minds. Don’t get me wrong I want to see Thiago fight big fights I mean shit his record 10 KO’s 1 submission and 1 decision. Thats a way better resume than Machida. So for all you Chuck haters he will all ways be able to knock out any of your heros.
[quote comment=”348594″]How come no one else finds anything wrong with the fact that UFC president Dana White used to be Chuck Liddells manager????? That doesn’t strike anyone else as odd? Could this be why Dana does whatever it takes to keep Chuck in the midst of the title picture and in the mix in terms of his name?[/quote]
What are you talking about man? Chuck is being given some of the toughest opponents in the division. Page..Jardine..Silva..Rua(got hurt)..Evans. Would you rather him fight Mike Nickels or something for an easy win?
I think Chuck finishes this fight seeing how tito actually beat him if it wasn’t for the point deduction. I think it will be a tko in the second round. Rashaad’s wrestling won’t be a factor in this fight because we all know chuck’s takedown defense is the best in the business. He won’t be able to manhandle chuck like he did stephan bonnar.
[quote comment=”348594″]How come no one else finds anything wrong with the fact that UFC president Dana White used to be Chuck Liddells manager????? That doesn’t strike anyone else as odd? Could this be why Dana does whatever it takes to keep Chuck in the midst of the title picture and in the mix in terms of his name?[/quote]
hey i alwayz post that dana and chuck are more then jus friends if u know what i mean,,,thats the only reason over-rated chuck gets big fights anymore and how much u wanna bet chuck chose that bum rashad instead of thiago silva cause he knew thiago wouold hurt him BAD
I just want to see rashad get knocked out cold in this fight.
Rashad couldn’t stand up with Tito, and he’s facing Chuck?! Easy knock out start of the 2nd round, maybe the towards the end of the 1st.
it should have been Thiago…that would have been interesting!
[quote comment=”348573″]The die hard Liddell fans are going to love it. They get to see the old Chuck again, before he had to be well rounded.
What are the odds that Liddell has a beer gut for this fight?[/quote]
10 out of 10
[quote comment=”348025″][quote comment=”347981″][quote comment=”347523″]GREAT NEWS! I didn’t want Chuck to fight some unknown fighter. This will be a good match even though I wanted to see Thiago vs Rashad, too.[/quote]
You’re kidding Shu…… You need to do your research.
Thiago WALKS through Chuck & Rashad no worries. Chuck and Rashad should be a great fight but neither of these guys are belt prospects. All due respect to Chuck of course.[/quote]
Are you kidding me?? There is a whole lot of hate for Chuck at the moment, to say that Thiago ‘walks’ through him is a terrible call.
Chuck just dominated Wandy who is basically a better version of Thaigo. His counter punching suits the aggressive chute box style of fighting.[/quote]
wandy is done he has had to many bare knuckle fights in his prime wandy ktfo of chuck,,,thiago is a future champ chuck is a presant over-rated bum
[quote comment=”348531″][quote comment=”347557″]Horrible!!! Good thing it’s free…[/quote]
this ones gonna be free?
didnt hear that[/quote]
It has been rumored, and on the UFC site instead of where it would say PPV Event, it says international event. Rapid Fire was in England and was listed as PPV Event, so there is a good chance it will be broadcast free, presumably on spike. I hope.
Lol, chuckie chose his opponent on this one i gotta think!
I mean he has top contenders machida, thiago, Hendo… they give him a guy who couldnt finish bisping or tito. Funny chuck hasnt mentioned or said anything about machida when machida called him out?? He is seriously avoiding him.
Why not do Liddell vs Machida and Evans vs Ortiz II? I think Machida is a better fighter than Rashad and would give Liddell more of a chalange. Plus who doesn’t want to se Tito Rashad II.
[quote post=”5231″]As for Thiago I would love to see him fight Gouveia at UFC 84. I know Gouvia was already scheduled to fight a reletivly unknow fighter, but this fight makes more sense. They are both coming off big KO wins and seem to have similar stlyes that I think would make for an exciting fight. [/quote]
The UFC really needs to get this fight in the works. Shogun gets hurt, and Thiago Silva has to pay the price? That doesn’t make any sense. Shogun gets hurt and the UFC drops Goran Reljic from the card - that sounds a lot better to me.
Wilson Gouviea is mighty talented. I have seen every one of his UFC fights, and after his initial decision loss to Jardine in the UFC, he seems to win his fight effortlessly in less than 2 rounds. That is, until the Jason Lambert fight where he was getting beat up before he scored the KO victory. Wilson has been on the cusp of the Top 10 for some time now (I’ve had him there) and he deserves to fight someone of his stature.
And who better to do so than another fighter on the cusp of breaking into everyone’s Top 10 list, Thiago Silva. Everybody, including myself, can’t wait to see this guy’s next fight after his dismantling of Houston Alexander. Its like all of the hype that Houston Alexander was able to gather after his two quick KO’s have been transferred right over to Thiago. It would be very dissapointing for Thiago if the UFC does not find him a solid opponent. BUT, at this point in time, EVERY solid LHW fighter is booked.
[quote comment=”348751″]Why not do Liddell vs Machida and Evans vs Ortiz II? I think Machida is a better fighter than Rashad and would give Liddell more of a chalange. Plus who doesn’t want to se Tito Rashad II.[/quote]
I agree.
aahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
is it possible that this fight could be as boring as the Rashad vs Tito fight?
Hate to say it but if Chuck doesn’t scare Rashad off with an overhand and Rashad takes Chuck down………this could be another huge UFC upset.
Not a fan of Rashad, however, i think him and Rampage could be a friggen wrestling match and a half.
[quote comment=”348145″]This is a horrible decision! TERRIBLE! I was very much looking forward to Tiago vs. Rashad. I would rather them scratch the Liddell fight all together.
Funny how the UFC broke up the Silva/Rashad match up for Chuck, instead of the Machida/Ortiz fight.
Rashad vs. Tiago should have still taken place and they should have scratched Tito and matched up Liddell vs. Machida… Since Tito, doesnt really want to fight machida anyway, then again, neither does Chuck…..and what chuck wants chuck gets.
This match up sucks! Chuck will have a 2 foot reach advantage over Rashad, and he will just keep his distance and pick Ol’ “Suga” apart.
Too bad that Chuck and his camp want to part of Machida, because Chuck vs. Machida is the best possible match up, and that way we would still get to see Tiago vs. Rashad.
As for Tiago, If I had match making power, I would scratch Nakamura and have Tiago Silva vs. Soukoudjou![/quote]
My thoughts exatcly. Ufc doesnt want chuck to lose again as he is a cash cow. Chuck doesnt want to fight machida anyways as there is little upside for him. If he loses (which is what i think would happen) his stock drops and he must win 2 or 3 fights to get a title sniff. If he wins alot of the public doesnt hold machida in high esteem, and the risk would not be worth the reward. However if he thinks beating Evans will make a big impact, I dont think it will, at least not for me. So I believe that he has more to lose fighting Evans, but will have a much better chance of winning than he would against machida.
Personally i think we finally get to see what both of these fighters have to offer. We all knew rashad beat ortiz. That is a no brainer. Now that this fight is in order now we can see how rashad dose against a real champion and we see how chuck stands up to the new blood of the UFC. I believe rashad has won enough to be put in title contention. Besides watching these two go at it for 15 min could be interesting. I wonder if chuck is going to get another motivational talk from Tony Robbins?
I still am almost 100% positive that Rashad Evans is going to win this fight via Split Decision.
Making Chuck Liddell 0-2 I believe against TUF 2 fighters.
wow this is going to be an easy k.o. victory for liddell. we all know what this guy does to wrestlers look at tito, randy, kevin randleman, and jeremy horn. Rashad is going to need a hell of a game plan, good thing he trains with jardine. personally i would rather see evans vs thiago silva. This sucks! GOD DAMNIT RUA!
This is so bad. I thought I was going to get to see Chuck and Shogun at the O2 arena. Sucks.
Screw it, I’ll have fun heckling Rashad at the weighins. (Kidding)
[quote comment=”348620″][quote comment=”348594″]How come no one else finds anything wrong with the fact that UFC president Dana White used to be Chuck Liddells manager????? That doesn’t strike anyone else as odd? Could this be why Dana does whatever it takes to keep Chuck in the midst of the title picture and in the mix in terms of his name?[/quote]
hey i alwayz post that dana and chuck are more then jus friends if u know what i mean,,,thats the only reason over-rated chuck gets big fights anymore and how much u wanna bet chuck chose that bum rashad instead of thiago silva cause he knew thiago wouold hurt him BAD[/quote]
Man…you have got some serious, serious issues. I think I read a post the other day where you said “over-rated chucky” like six times. And you even call yourself chucksux. Your nickname isn’t Babalu is it?
Seriously guys, you really think chuck had anything to do with picking Rashad? That guy will fight anyone. No there really isn’t an up side to fighting Machida or Silva. So if I were Chuck, I wouldn’t want to fight either one of them either. You think he really wanted to fight Jardine? No, but he did. Even if he had won that fight, it wouldn’t have been good for his career. If he defeats Thiago or Machida, millions of people will shrug and say, “So what?”
rashad has proven he belongs in the ufc and this is his chance to get a title shot. not saying he will win (personally i dont think he is), but he has a shot and earned it.
I think rashad is a great pick for this fight in more than one way. First he has great name recoginition from winning the ultimate fighter. He is and undefeated fighter with the only blemish on his record being a draw to tito. Third he is primarily a wrestler and i dont see him being able to take chuck down and i dont see him being able to strike with chuck he has a good chin so i think there is a possibilty albeit a very little one he takes the fight to a decision. Evans had trouble taking bisping down and i think bispings biggest weakness is his wrestling so i dont think there is anyhope of him taking chuck down.
I really think Liddell is going to destroy Rashad. But I don’t want Chuck to get a title shot for winning this fight, so I’ll have to be pulling for Rashad. Damn I hate this fight.
no!! i wanted to see rashad and Silva!!
this is a nice matchup. iceman by ko
[quote post=”5231″]I really think Liddell is going to destroy Rashad. But I don’t want Chuck to get a title shot for winning this fight, so I’ll have to be pulling for Rashad. Damn I hate this fight. [/quote]
I completely agree with you. I think Rashad is pretty good and has a good upside, but i don’t think Chuck deserves a shot beating Rashad. A guy like Jardine should get it now if he beats Wandy because he would have beaten Forrest Chuck and Wandy.
and after all of this poor jardine!!!!!! he beats forest…forest gets title shot….he beats lidell now lidell will prob get title shot after this win(if he wins)…i will b truly dissapointed if chuck gets a title shot after this fight! he beat wandi, but losing 2 in a row right before doesnt make him next in line!
Machida has evrything to lose as unfair as it might sound IMO….if tito beats him theres no way in hell hes going to get a title shot antytime soon even with 1 loss on his record! See why i think chucky has favoritsm reading ALL OVER HIM!
hoping that lidell doesnt get title shot after this fight(if he wins)!!!!!!!!
THIS IS BULL CHUCK WILL WIN EASILY IF He’s not partying too hard in the uk
MACHIDA SHOULD FUGHT CHUCK NOT RASHAD RASHAD WILL GET TIRED HE ALWAYS DOES
ufcmania u should take this down it does nothing but piss me off what a pethetic matchup
[quote comment=”349163″]and after all of this poor jardine!!!!!! he beats forest…forest gets title shot….he beats lidell now lidell will prob get title shot after this win(if he wins)…i will b truly dissapointed if chuck gets a title shot after this fight! he beat wandi, but losing 2 in a row right before doesnt make him next in line!
Machida has evrything to lose as unfair as it might sound IMO….if tito beats him theres no way in hell hes going to get a title shot antytime soon even with 1 loss on his record! See why i think chucky has favoritsm reading ALL OVER HIM!
hoping that lidell doesnt get title shot after this fight(if he wins)!!!!!!!![/quote]
If Chuck fights Machida’s resume he would go on a 12 KO win streak. If Machida fights Chucks resume…. well you wouldn’t know or like him cause he probably wouldn’t do so well. When was the last time Chuck got an easy fight? after two loses he comes back to fight Wanderlei, then takes a fight with Shogun. Rashad is not an easy opponent for anybody. Favortism is you saying Machida has everything to lose if he can’t beat Tito, but wasn’t that the same for Chuck fighting Wandy? Favortism is you thinking Machida deserves a title shot with no top 10 LHW contenders on his resume. And how does Jardine get a title shot with a 1 fight win streak? let him get past Wandy then maybe rematch Chuck or another quality opponent then a title shot. Favortism is what your saying about two fighters who are good, but haven’t accomplished nowhere near what Chuck has in the sport. So if he does have favortism he deserves it for his work in the UFC.
I don’t think so Chuck gonna to KO Rashad in round one. Chuck is older than him in eight years. He still very young, smart and fast. He knows that Chuck’s big name. He doesn’t has big name. However he has great Jackson’s Mixed Martial Arts training camp. His coach and Rashad know Chuck gonna to KO him in round one or two. His coach forces him to working very hard and be prepare to fight against Chuck. He gonna to fail to KO Rashad. He gonna to take him down in round each I faith Rashad gonna to win by spit decision.
What image Chuck lost to Rashad. It’s gonna to be big upset in history. He gonna to be retired asap. You will see.
[quote comment=”348751″]Why not do Liddell vs Machida and Evans vs Ortiz II? I think Machida is a better fighter than Rashad and would give Liddell more of a chalange. Plus who doesn’t want to se Tito Rashad II.[/quote]
The UFC won’t put Machida against Liddell because of marketing reasons. The casual fan doesn’t know who Machida is. Fans will think Chuck is being fed a “can”. With Rashad, at least the fans know who he is.
good matchup for chuck, chuck hasnt lost to the wrestler type in a while, he should probably have to fight jardine for the title shot after that though, even though it wont be fair for jardine, oh well, its mma, nothing will ever work out perfect
Ummmmmmm. Poor Rashad. He hasnt fought the same caliber of fighters as chuck has. His closest opponent was really Tito Ortiz, who he only tied to. Chuck knocked out Tito twice. Plus Chuck has a huge reach advantage, which played a big part in his Wanderlei fight (and wanderlei is WAYYYY tougher then Rashad.) Chucks gona win this but knockout.
[quote comment=”349248″][quote comment=”349163″]and after all of this poor jardine!!!!!! he beats forest…forest gets title shot….he beats lidell now lidell will prob get title shot after this win(if he wins)…i will b truly dissapointed if chuck gets a title shot after this fight! he beat wandi, but losing 2 in a row right before doesnt make him next in line!
Machida has evrything to lose as unfair as it might sound IMO….if tito beats him theres no way in hell hes going to get a title shot antytime soon even with 1 loss on his record! See why i think chucky has favoritsm reading ALL OVER HIM!
hoping that lidell doesnt get title shot after this fight(if he wins)!!!!!!!![/quote]
If Chuck fights Machida’s resume he would go on a 12 KO win streak. If Machida fights Chucks resume…. well you wouldn’t know or like him cause he probably wouldn’t do so well. When was the last time Chuck got an easy fight? after two loses he comes back to fight Wanderlei, then takes a fight with Shogun. Rashad is not an easy opponent for anybody. Favortism is you saying Machida has everything to lose if he can’t beat Tito, but wasn’t that the same for Chuck fighting Wandy? Favortism is you thinking Machida deserves a title shot with no top 10 LHW contenders on his resume. And how does Jardine get a title shot with a 1 fight win streak? let him get past Wandy then maybe rematch Chuck or another quality opponent then a title shot. Favortism is what your saying about two fighters who are good, but haven’t accomplished nowhere near what Chuck has in the sport. So if he does have favortism he deserves it for his work in the UFC.[/quote]
–so ur trying to say that machida’s record(resume) is a walk in the park heh? bj, franklin, sokoudjou?
and either way u wanna slice it, favoritism is favoritism and chuck def has it! the question is does he deserve it RIGHT NOW over machida??? i think most MMA fans would agree that machida s unbeaten record is tops for a title shot over ur idol chuckie!! Now u liking chuckie over anyone cuz he made the sport a little bigger??? thats FAVORITISM at its best!
[quote comment=”348980″]rashad has proven he belongs in the ufc and this is his chance to get a title shot. not saying he will win (personally i dont think he is), but he has a shot and earned it.[/quote]
Exactly…whether you like him or not…he’s undefeated and has I think 6 wins in the UFC to date and a draw…those are contenders credentials.
[quote comment=”348025″][quote comment=”347981″][quote comment=”347523″]GREAT NEWS! I didn’t want Chuck to fight some unknown fighter. This will be a good match even though I wanted to see Thiago vs Rashad, too.[/quote]
You’re kidding Shu…… You need to do your research.
Thiago WALKS through Chuck & Rashad no worries. Chuck and Rashad should be a great fight but neither of these guys are belt prospects. All due respect to Chuck of course.[/quote]
Are you kidding me?? There is a whole lot of hate for Chuck at the moment, to say that Thiago ‘walks’ through him is a terrible call.
Chuck just dominated Wandy who is basically a better version of Thaigo. His counter punching suits the aggressive chute box style of fighting.[/quote]
I disagree with you totally. Thiago is a better fighter than he was two years ago and he is now in a different league to Wandy. The chuck of two years ago would have smashed Wandy and Rashad (at once!), but not any more. Counter style or not Thiago would have walked through Chuck. The UFC doesn’t want this, they want Chuck with a couple of easy wins under his belt. I don’t hate Chuck, i actually love his style and believe he is a striker of the calibre of world class fighters, the two Mikes, Tyson & Zambidis. Aka AWESOME knock out power from virtually any angle. Unfortunately Chuck has lost his work ethic and he’s getting old. It happens….
WOW NO ONE FEARS LIDDEL ANYMORE!!!! HA HA
I got one for you Dan Henderson vs Thiago Silva
Chuck vs Evans is a Horrible matchup Especially for a main event
Oh god, couldn’t be happier with this, MADE my day. Not a great fight, but I HATE Evans, and hope he gets crushed!!! YEah!!! DOWN WITH EVANS.
[quote comment=”349375″][quote comment=”349248″][quote comment=”349163″]and after all of this poor jardine!!!!!! he beats forest…forest gets title shot….he beats lidell now lidell will prob get title shot after this win(if he wins)…i will b truly dissapointed if chuck gets a title shot after this fight! he beat wandi, but losing 2 in a row right before doesnt make him next in line!
Machida has evrything to lose as unfair as it might sound IMO….if tito beats him theres no way in hell hes going to get a title shot antytime soon even with 1 loss on his record! See why i think chucky has favoritsm reading ALL OVER HIM!
hoping that lidell doesnt get title shot after this fight(if he wins)!!!!!!!![/quote]
If Chuck fights Machida’s resume he would go on a 12 KO win streak. If Machida fights Chucks resume…. well you wouldn’t know or like him cause he probably wouldn’t do so well. When was the last time Chuck got an easy fight? after two loses he comes back to fight Wanderlei, then takes a fight with Shogun. Rashad is not an easy opponent for anybody. Favortism is you saying Machida has everything to lose if he can’t beat Tito, but wasn’t that the same for Chuck fighting Wandy? Favortism is you thinking Machida deserves a title shot with no top 10 LHW contenders on his resume. And how does Jardine get a title shot with a 1 fight win streak? let him get past Wandy then maybe rematch Chuck or another quality opponent then a title shot. Favortism is what your saying about two fighters who are good, but haven’t accomplished nowhere near what Chuck has in the sport. So if he does have favortism he deserves it for his work in the UFC.[/quote]
–so ur trying to say that machida’s record(resume) is a walk in the park heh? bj, franklin, sokoudjou?
and either way u wanna slice it, favoritism is favoritism and chuck def has it! the question is does he deserve it RIGHT NOW over machida??? i think most MMA fans would agree that machida s unbeaten record is tops for a title shot over ur idol chuckie!! Now u liking chuckie over anyone cuz he made the sport a little bigger??? thats FAVORITISM at its best![/quote]
Machida doesn’t have a top 10 LHW on his record!!!! having a 12 fight win streak is good. But NAMES NAMES NAMES!!!!!!!!! Penn is elite at 155, at 170 class A at best. Machida couldn’t even finish him it went to a decision. Franklin’s fight in 2003 he was nowhere near the fighter he started to be when he was able to beat Shamrock in 2005. Sokoudjou, a guy with 4 wins 1 lose before he fought Machida, is that a top level fighter? Names Names Names!!!!!!!! what would happen to those 3 fighters if they fought Chuck in your opinion? Rashad 16-0 why doesn’t he deserve a shot first?Thiago 11-0 what about him? Favortism you say yea there is but it’s by you. Plus Machida is a boring fighter 7 decisions 2 submissions and only 3 tko’s. Weak numbers and no real LHW names.
i think they are both OVER-RATED. but chuck is going to take this one easy as long as chuck doesn’t take him for granted. chuck vs houston alexander would be a great fight to watch. i hope they make that fight happen.
this is stupid fight chuck wins this one why coulnt be thiago silva to risky you f@#$%%^ idot dana white
Why do most people here hate Chuck so much, and say he is over-rated? The man has dismantled Randy twice! Page beat him. He took Jardine waaay to lightly. That’s it. Two losses in how many years since Randy beat him? I just don’t understand where all the hate comes from. I guess everyone is entitled. People who say Rashad got the fight because of his name are dead on, and its true Machida would give Chuck the most competition. If they really wanted to make a statement they should have made a Chuck vs Tito trilogy! Suprised Dana didn’t stick it to Tito like that for all the trash he’s been talking. Chuck should win by KO. I’d like to see a Silva/Houston re-match since they are shuffeling fights. JMO’s.
[quote comment=”349668″]I got one for you Dan Henderson vs Thiago Silva[/quote]
Love to see it!!
A quick thought!
If Rashad beats Chuck (unlikely!) it puts Bisping’s effort against Rashad in a different light and would make Bisping look a bit more dangerous as a middle….. Definetly a long bow to draw though.
WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’d rahter see vera move down and fight Chuck!!!!
Evans and T. Silva was amuch better matchup!
The UFC messed this one up!!
Iceman by ko, rashad struggled to hold bisping down or deliver any significant damage and we know chucks lot better, anything can happen but I would say iceman delivers ko at ufc 85 and leaves him unconsious. Vera wins by knee to face of werdrum in impressive fashion.
I dont think this was such a bad idea…
I was looking forward to Silva/Evans, but if I had to split up a fight, to make the Chuck fight happen? I would choose Silva/Evans or Tito/Machida..
That Jennito shit is the gayest thing I have ever heard Tito say..
And Tito says alot of Lame-ass shit..
[quote comment=”348756″][quote post=”5231″]As for Thiago I would love to see him fight Gouveia at UFC 84. I know Gouvia was already scheduled to fight a reletivly unknow fighter, but this fight makes more sense. They are both coming off big KO wins and seem to have similar stlyes that I think would make for an exciting fight. [/quote]
The UFC really needs to get this fight in the works. Shogun gets hurt, and Thiago Silva has to pay the price? That doesn’t make any sense. Shogun gets hurt and the UFC drops Goran Reljic from the card - that sounds a lot better to me.
Wilson Gouviea is mighty talented. I have seen every one of his UFC fights, and after his initial decision loss to Jardine in the UFC, he seems to win his fight effortlessly in less than 2 rounds. That is, until the Jason Lambert fight where he was getting beat up before he scored the KO victory. Wilson has been on the cusp of the Top 10 for some time now (I’ve had him there) and he deserves to fight someone of his stature.
And who better to do so than another fighter on the cusp of breaking into everyone’s Top 10 list, Thiago Silva. Everybody, including myself, can’t wait to see this guy’s next fight after his dismantling of Houston Alexander. Its like all of the hype that Houston Alexander was able to gather after his two quick KO’s have been transferred right over to Thiago. It would be very dissapointing for Thiago if the UFC does not find him a solid opponent. BUT, at this point in time, EVERY solid LHW fighter is booked.[/quote]
Tiago vs. Gouviea would be awesome as would tiago vs. Sokoudjou!
[quote comment=”349399″][quote comment=”348980″]rashad has proven he belongs in the ufc and this is his chance to get a title shot. not saying he will win (personally i dont think he is), but he has a shot and earned it.[/quote]
Exactly…whether you like him or not…he’s undefeated and has I think 6 wins in the UFC to date and a draw…those are contenders credentials.[/quote]
Buster Bluth: as u previously pointed out, the biggest thing missing from Rashad’s game, is “killer instinct”…. I think Rashad vs. Tiago would have been a better fight in General than Rashad vs. Liddell. Tiago is agressive, Liddell has been primarily a counter puncher. Tiago would have took the fight to Rashad, which is exactly what Rashad needs. Buster Bluth, u may be right about Rashad needing to experince a loss in order to improve. I dont really like being undefeated anyway…too much additional pressure. This is a great career move for Rashad, fight Liddell, if you loose, so what? Maybe a loss will benefit Rashad.
I am just pissed because I thought Tiago vs. Rashad was the perfect match up!
Chuck should win this fight he would of beat shogun to now chuck will get a titlt shot if he wins Dana white has said so and he deserves it he is a legend he’s not going to be around much longer so the ufc will give him what he wants 2nd round TKO.
Liddell vs Rampage 3 This fight has to be Liddell’s He will train so fuckin hard if this fight does happen cause rampage eats him up in side he wants to prove to poeple that he can beat him chuck should be champion again.
For the other top contenders Machida and jardine I’m hoping Tito will beat him and silva will beat jardine so thats to fighters that wont get a shot at the champ then you got to vitor wich will be a threat fast hands man.
Fights that will happen before chuck retires if he wins the belt and silva keeps on winning we should see a
liddell vs silva 2 and liddell jardine 2
I’m a personal friend of Rashad’s and I’m here to tell you that Rashad has been wairing for this fight for a long time. He will take it to Chuch; see the way I see it is Rashad beat Keith and beat Chuck so to me it’s pretty much a no brainer. Anyone that thinks something different will be able to see my man in action on the 7th of June until then we will train hard and long preparing for his next event. Good luck with your prognostication!
okay so being a friend of Rashads I may be somewhat biased but the way I see it is that Rashad beat Keith and Keith beat Chuck so to me its a no brainer. You can try your hand with a prognostication of this fight, but you’d be silly to try and pick a different outcome at this point. I know my boy is going to bring it!
not an easy fight for either. Being DW’s buddy won’t help chuck here. he’s strong tough almost like tito but with a better striking arsenal.
remember there is different levels of different skills - like if someone has strong striking the opponent is going to have thinking of that AS WELL AS the takedown. there has been a lot of matches in the last 2 years where fighters try to avoid a transparent gameplan. GSP probably could have beat KOS 8/10 x by striking, but he decided to wrestle, and get the takedowns before kOS - and it worked.
chuck wins all his fights by being a great, unorthodox striker, and not getting taken down.
Rashad can’t be careless,
but if he uses a combo of kicks striking, takedowns and keeps chuck guessing, he could wear chuck down, eventually Gnp tko or decision.
chuck was at his best for the wandy fight. it wasnt wanderlei ’s nite. wanderlei doesnt seem past his prime or anything.
too bad
crocop didn’t wanna cut to 205 - some guys are kind of on the cusp of different weight classes- crocop, hendo. wrestling shite that no one even knows about…. CC is pretty lean so it mnakes sense that he’s bulking up. just that chuck crocop would be the wildest striking ever…..
not meant to happen
this is chucks biggest test yet….hahahahahahahahaha
[quote comment=”347714″]Rashad has this one. Wrestles out a disappointing decision.[/quote]
haha, funny. no way rashad gets chuck down. and if he manages to, he cant hold him. chucks gonna KO rashads punkass. and im glad, cause rashad is a boring fighter w/ a big mouth.
don’t know how all you guys are always so sure about everything - guess ’cause you are all geniuses, and psychic.
yet..
whenever someone publicly keeps a record of their predictions they never average above p at picking winners
sorry, typo, guess im not a genius like you all pre-dick-tors.
NO ONE SEEMS TO AVERAGE ABOVE 70 percent at picking winners when they keep a public record
cro cop could make 205 and fight chuck, but he might not want to work that much to cut, he might b comfortable where hes at. would be a great fight.
I was looking forward to the original fight. Would much rather see the Silva v Evans fight. That would have been a much more competitive fight.
I think that out of the three fighters every one is talking about (machida, rashad, and thiago) thiago would be the toughest. I thikn chuck oculd beat any of em, but thiago is far more aggressive then the other two. Rashad is a lay and pray guy, how does that work on chuck who is #1 hard to take down #2 hard to keep down. Machida has only three knockouts on no name fighters. Chucks list is quite big for knockouts. His list includes Tito and Corture, twice for both of em.Macihdas chance is submitting chuck, but like i siad, machida has to have chuck on the ground to have a good chance of doing that. Thiago is very aggressive, but if chuck can beat types like Wanderlei and that black dude from pride (not rampage, the other guy he fought in pride before rampage,) thiago will have trouble. Plus chuck is great at counter punching those aggressive guys. Everyone thinks chuck is trash now cause he lost a couple fights. People said that about corture, then corture went and got the heavy weight belt. Dont EVER count chuck out as being one of the best.
Rashad should have won the fight with Tito!!
I don’t see Rashad beating Chuck.I would like
too see Ken Shamrock vs Tito 4.If it was a stand up
fight Ken Would knock out Ortiz!Go Chuck Lidell!!!
A ICE MAN FAN!!!!!
[quote comment=”352594″]this is chucks biggest test yet….hahahahahahahahaha[/quote]
Fastest hands in UFC still?
Chuck is the best UFC Fighter!
Rashad Evans is going to lose badly to Chuck at UFC 88. Chuck is much better in all areas then Rashad.
Rashad is definetly going to be looking for the takedown, and when he does, a flying Iceman knuckle sandwich with a side of K.O. is going to be waiting for him.
Anyone who thinks Rashad has a chance in this fight is clearly mislead. He will get the beating of his life fighting Chuck. They are not in the same league! He did nothing against Tito can you imagine what Chuck will do to him.
what the hell are you people smoking
chuck just went toe to toe w/ wandi for five gurlling rounds
and defeated one of the best fighters in the world.
his loss to jardine was due more to mental prep than anything.
look at the whos who list chuck has beat down.
ask your self this
would rashad last 3 min with wandi silva?
chuck not only lasted, but pulled out a impressive win.
rashad has never fought the likes of chuck, or even at that level. the loss on rashads record will be a good one, because he will get a tast of the top 5 and see what the fight game is all about. losses make you a better more focused fighter.
wandi, chuck, and rampage have never been so dangerous
chuck over rashad via ko in the 2nd round
I am rooting for chuck, because rashad so far has just layed on people for a descision….technically he took them down more and gained points. That, and I am not a big fan of niggers anyway.
I just don’t like reshad cuz he a lazy black mofo who just layz around like the rest of his people. i do hope chuck hits this fool so hard it knocks his ass back to africa..
Nice. Liddell just got his ass beat. I’m not am Evans fan but it was nice to see him win and shut up all the racist fags in here. No groundwork, just a nice punch to the chin.
Two good fighters got in the ring, one stepped out a winner. Case closed.
Yo Shad just killed chuck you racist mofos
hahaha!!!chuck gets fuCC’d up once again …..KNOC’D DA FUCC OUT IN 2ND….HAHAHAHAHAH!!! CHUCK IS WASHED OUT LIKE THE REST OF HIS PEOPLE …LIKE CLOROX ON A BLACC TEE…BWAHAHAHA…DAT MOHAWK LAYS ON THE OCTOGON AGAIN FROM A BLACC MAN TO BE SPECIFIC!!!
Man, I’ve just been watching UFC about a year, and I’d never seen Rashad Evans before. And I also have only known Chuck since his last few fights with Rampage and Silva (and I wasn’t too impressed, frankly.)
But after reading all this talk about Rashad and how Chuck is going to kill him, I wish I’d had placed a bet last night, because I thought Rashad was going to win (based on the clips they showed of him.)
This forum proves that Americans are actually dumber than the blonde beauty pageant on youtube.
Btw, Chuck got knocked the f*ck out…all the way back to where the human race originated from.
That would be the continent that starts with the letter ‘A’.
For all you Americans I’ll give you a hint. No, it’s not Atlanta.
I never liked “iceman” he is so overrated. I mean Evans did to him what he’s been doing to others. Evans said it himself at the end of the fight. Evans played Liddel’s game and beat him to it… Liddel went for an uppercut and what did Evans do ?.. Evans went with Liddel’s signature overhead punch… kinda reminds ya of the last scene from Rocky vs Apollo doesn’t it ? Anyways, Liddel is washed out, this is one old dog you can’t teach a new trick to, he’s been using the same game plan for years… surprised that only now are people starting to figured it out… that’s a wrap!
IT was a good fight neve the less. One mad hit ended it. Thats all. Evans is good but Liddel has done it all. Theyre both good fighters. Now to get that fat ass brock lesnar….Randy will fk him up.
both rashad or chuck could take it on a good day.
same with wandy and others
rashad’s does match up well.
tito according to dana is not top. but he drawed against the man who KTFO’d dana’s stud