Note that Tito Ortiz will complete the final fight on his UFC contract when he fight Lyoto Machida at UFC 84: “Ill Will” on May 24. Next stop EliteXC? He says he’s got three years left of fight left in him.
March 5th, 2008
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Mark Cuban will probably try to get a hold of him.
where ever he goes he will get the money he wants besides the ufc
tito is way to into himself. If he was never in the UFC he would be some janitor.
I KNEW the UFC was approached by CBS before they approached EliteXC! As soon as I saw the announcement, my first thought was “what did Dana fuck up this time”. I know the comment is coming from Tito, but for some reason, I believe him.
Smart move for him. He’s probably going to lose to Machida and if he lost another one after that the UFC would have to cut him anyway. Can’t pay undercard fighters Tito money.
I agree with Tito a bit. I mean, look at Couture. According to him, they lied to him. And Tim Sylvia said something about not being paid enough. Couture and Sylvia were UFC nuthuggers, so i kinda believe Tito, but not everything he says. Tito is pretty arrogant too.
Good riddance. He hasn’t fought like a champion for some time now being primarily focused on the $money$ and pr(which he does for the $$ too). He should do a lot better because he’ll be fighting lower classed fighters like himself. A big fish in a small pond…..no scratch that, a big headed fish in a small pond.
im goin back to being a huge tito fan!
i always thought, wow hes selfish, all about the money, yada yada yada.
but u kno hes right, hes putting his body on the line all the time. So in his eyes the “buisness” should be paying out more especially if hes such an attraction as well..
all im sayin these guys are fighters, we see the pay outs there gross from the ufc.. gotta go where the money is to secure ur life down the road. tito is right and has the right to bitch about money.
THE HUNTINGTON BEACH BAD BOY IS BACKKKKKK!!!
Tito Ortiz has talked about quitting the UFC and signing somewhere else for more than 6 years now. Good for him if he does it, but until he does he’s just Tito being Tito; running his mouth, talking shit and trying to keep from falling over with that gigantic head of his.
[quote comment=”347340″]tito is way to into himself. If he was never in the UFC he would be some janitor.[/quote]
You couldn’t be more wrong. Dana White has done so much to make Tito look like a bum. Does anyone remember that hour long special he made promoting that boxing match he was supposed to have with Tito??? How come Tito didn’t have a special telling his side of the story. How do we know it was Tito who wanted the fight cancelled? Many will say that he fought a washed up Shamrock numerous times and lost to Liddell twice, but the truth is he is one of the fighters that made the UFC what it is today. People enjoyed watching him to his “Mock Burial” after he KO a guy. He helped the UFC go mainstrean with his appearences on The Best Damn Sports Show Period, and he along with a few others can sell PPV fights like no other.
Doesn’t the UFC have the right to match any offer Tito gets? I thought I heard that somewhere. The reason why I am asking is because if he gets a reasonable offer from EliteXC or someone else I can see them matching after he smashes Machida’s face in.
It’s about putting butts in seats so I can agree with his (Tito’s) arguement. But on the other hand the UFC puts up the money for the shows so I can see there point as well. Still Tito would still give any up and comer the crudentials they would need to get big fights. Tito is the Rich Franklin of the LHW division. He’ll probably go into the fight and do nothing, just lose to make the UFC look stupid. Hopefully he comes out and beats the shit out of Machida so he can go elsewhere and get the money he wants. Hate to see him go.
[quote comment=”347357″]im goin back to being a huge tito fan!
i always thought, wow hes selfish, all about the money, yada yada yada.
but u kno hes right, hes putting his body on the line all the time. So in his eyes the “buisness” should be paying out more especially if hes such an attraction as well..
all im sayin these guys are fighters, we see the pay outs there gross from the ufc.. gotta go where the money is to secure ur life down the road. tito is right and has the right to bitch about money.
THE HUNTINGTON BEACH BAD BOY IS BACKKKKKK!!![/quote]
What? Maybe after he gets a couple of REAL wins, after he losses to Lyoto… hahaha, there is a 0% chance of tito winning that fight.
I knew he had a big head, but damn, I don’t know if it was the angle, does he have gigantism or something?
Anyways… I can kinda agree with Tito on this one. For someone who along with the likes of Couture and Chuck, helped put UFC on the map, and to have such a rocky relationship with Dana and the UFC? I hope he beats Machida, ends his UFC career on a high note, he certainly has the ability. Would be a good way to “stick it” to Dana before he signs with someone else, show him what the UFC’s going be losing.
Did he call them Jenito? As in Jenna-Tito? lol Wow.
ufc puts him on tv evrytime what a fuckin asshole and that jenito thats so fuckin lame
[quote comment=”347357″]im goin back to being a huge tito fan!
i always thought, wow hes selfish, all about the money, yada yada yada.
but u kno hes right, hes putting his body on the line all the time. So in his eyes the “buisness” should be paying out more especially if hes such an attraction as well..
all im sayin these guys are fighters, we see the pay outs there gross from the ufc.. gotta go where the money is to secure ur life down the road. tito is right and has the right to bitch about money.
THE HUNTINGTON BEACH BAD BOY IS BACKKKKKK!!![/quote]
tito shoulnt be paid shit hes not a light heavyweight contender if he wants a payout he can take a ass beatin from chuck again but hes fightin machida and hes gonna lose u dont win u dont get money its simple
I heard somewhere that when Frank Shamrock left the UFC, he told them to call him when they found a worthy middle weight contender. I do believe they have said contender in Anderson Silva. lol
Don’t be surprised if Tito re-signs with the UFC…they’ve done this bad blood, good cop bad cop routine before.
Good for Tito…thats the truth too, Tito I’m a huge fan but loose Jenna…nasty!
Sometimes I also Think Dana White is a bit arrogant. Like his hyped fight with Tito. I mean he tries to put attention on himself, and all he is is a suit. I mean hes done a great job, but it seems as if everyone is saying hes an asshole…after a so many people say the same thing, you start to wonder. Elite XC is extremely lame, with jock sniffers like Quadros and Goldberg, but they do have that hack Gary SHaw who will spend money like an idiot, thus drawing more fighters perhaps. I think the UFC still has 3 solid years until its got legit comp.
[quote comment=”347458″]I heard somewhere that when Frank Shamrock left the UFC, he told them to call him when they found a worthy middle weight contender. I do believe they have said contender in Anderson Silva. lol[/quote]
Frank vs Silva is an even better matchup the Henderson vs Silva. Dream match for sure.
Tito Jenna make me sick!
i’m a tito fan, and i will be the first to say that he has not looked good recently. he needs a dominating performance in the worst way. the thing that pisses me off is how everybody(fans and fighters)rag on tito because he wants to get paid good. he sells tickets, period. you can’t argue that, so why shouldn’t he get paid good. he also has the longest(or one of the longest) title reigns. people are not bitching about how much lesner is getting paid with absolutly no experience. people are even saying he deserves the money because “people pay to see him”. same as tito. also, randy is in the same situation tito was in a few years ago. bitching about money and who he is gonna fight. randy leaves and everybody takes his side and blames dana. in tito’s situation everybody calls him greedy and a coward. bottom line is he is an athlete and wants to get paid like one. for some reason people think that because fighters want more money then they are affraid to fight. so what? should fighters fight for peanuts just to prove to everybody that they are tough? come on….not to much is said when a football or baseball player leaves to another team because of a bigger pay check.
tito is kinda judged with a double-standard. i know this is said a lot about tito, but it is true……you either love him or hate him, and i guess thats part of the reason for his success. either way i hope he comes out and smashes machida. it’s getting hard to constantly defend him and his sub-par performances as of late.
[quote comment=”347508″]Tito
Jenna make me sick![/quote]
She’s no longer hot..and has a big forehead, just like him. Highly doubt Tito will sign, and he’s taking Lyoto very lightly..in an earlier interview, he barely knew his name..He’s lost his intesity and focus, and is all about custom made suits, cars, making appearances, and $$$$$.. Give me a fighter who’s hungry and focused anytime…
DirtbadHtr - Tito, just like the rest of the 205 pounders know exactly who Machida is, they just don’t like an unbeatable guy coming through the ranks. I can not see Tito beating Machida, as he is too good on his feet and off his back.
It doesnt matter if you like him or hate him, know one on the planet can market themselves better than Tito. Good on him.
[quote comment=”347416″]Did he call them Jenito? As in Jenna-Tito? lol Wow.[/quote]
sentiments exactly!!!
He said EliteXC is signed with NBC. Wasn’t it CBS? Mania, does he have his facts mixed? Or do I?
I could care less if Tito left UFC. Tito doesn’t deserve the pay UFC has been giving.
[quote comment=”347559″][quote comment=”347508″]Tito
Jenna make me sick![/quote]
She’s no longer hot..and has a big forehead, just like him. Highly doubt Tito will sign, and he’s taking Lyoto very lightly..in an earlier interview, he barely knew his name..He’s lost his intesity and focus, and is all about custom made suits, cars, making appearances, and $$$$$.. Give me a fighter who’s hungry and focused anytime…[/quote]
True Tito dose seem to have lost that warrior spirit that he once had, u can tell just by hearing him talk before a fight interview he talks as if fighting is his second priority now, whereas back in the day he was hungry and used to crush everybody he fought and had a totaly different attitude when it came time to fight he does not seem like he wants to fight anymore. He needs to come back to the way he was before when he was champ. This is sad but true for a fighter who was once reagarded as the face of the UFC and 1 of the best in the world.
Guys leaving or having problems with the UFC/Dana White:
Fedor
Randy
Andrei Arlovsky
Tito Ortiz
Tim Sylvia
If anyone can add to this list, please do.
Why do people think that Dana’s beef with Tito is unique? Dana White is a brash business man. He’s arrogant and he steps on people’s toes.
But look at the guys he’s had beef with. These aren’t low teir TUF fighters. These guys are PPV sellers, fan favorites, and guys that have put this sport where it is. Once these guys defect, others will follow. And the UFC will be the equivalent to the WWE with EliteXC its TNA.
Too bad he’s leaving. Tito is one of the if not the biggest name in the UFC arsenal, I hope Tito smashes Machida and goes onto much success.
I like watching Tito fight but this guy is a hot head and totally full of himself. He always states that he made the ufc what it is but never gives Dana any credit. I’d hate to see the ufc without Tito but he’s ego might be too big for the octagon.
http://www.ufc-ranking.blogspot.com
hmmm, gotta word this just right, i used to like tito until this last year or two, i understand everyone wants to get paid and in that, yeah dana white and perhaps the fertita’s are being a little greedy, but they just broke EVEN last year. As far as tito never on tv ummm the ultimate fighter i though constituted being on tv, and they edited that show to make tito look like a stud. I don’t know the guy but i’d bet that ken shamrock isn’t the douchbag they showed him to be (due to clever editing). Point being it seems like they TRIED to make him a star but in him being a less than exciting fighter (other than his geriatric beat-downs of shamrock) he somewhat slipped and needs to realize that in order to get paid you have to kick ass, don’t believe me, ask andrei arlovski he hasn’t even lost but is on his way out for being boring.
Seperate note, i never though jenna jamison to be attractive, and i haven’t seen any pictures of her in a while but ugh, my god, she’s a troll.
Frank shamrock will win the rematch if it happens
[quote comment=”347706″]Guys leaving or having problems with the UFC/Dana White:
Fedor
Randy
Andrei Arlovsky
Tito Ortiz
Tim Sylvia
If anyone can add to this list, please do.
Why do people think that Dana’s beef with Tito is unique? Dana White is a brash business man. He’s arrogant and he steps on people’s toes.
But look at the guys he’s had beef with. These aren’t low teir TUF fighters. These guys are PPV sellers, fan favorites, and guys that have put this sport where it is. Once these guys defect, others will follow. And the UFC will be the equivalent to the WWE with EliteXC its TNA.[/quote]
Matt Lindland
Josh Barnett
Isn’t it CBS, not NBC…and not putting him on TV?…..he was a coach on The Ultimate Fighter 3…and besides, who has he beaten besides an aged and over the hill Shamrock…I mean come on Tito, whos disallusioned here?
Tito is a certain hall of famer at the UFC, if he leaves on a bad note like this it will be a Randy esq shame. I agree with Tito, it’s time there were minimums put on MMA fights based on a dollar figure, or total door take, or something like that. Tito is a great ambassador for MMA and organisations like the UFC. I’m also a closet Tito fan and would like to see him get his belt back in 08-09.
[quote comment=”347472″]Don’t be surprised if Tito re-signs with the UFC…they’ve done this bad blood, good cop bad cop routine before.[/quote]
I agree, Tito is the master of making money in the UFC. If he beats (big if) machida don’t be suprised to see him sign another big ass contract.
He has made Dana a lot of money over the years and there is nobody who sells a fight like Tito, Dana knows this.
No way Machida is going to let Tito win. Machida by submission RD 2.
Too bad he said NBC and not CBS. Does he know that EliteXC is on CBS? What a turd.
They tried to give him his own 2 hour special on his boxing match with Dana, but he noshowed to that. They made him a coach on TUF, what else did he want?
Isn’t it CBS, not NBC…and not putting him on TV?…..he was a coach on The Ultimate Fighter 3…and besides, who has he beaten besides an aged and over the hill Shamrock…I mean come on Tito, whos disallusioned here?
He beat everyone’s hero Forest
Did you WATCH the FOREST fight? It was slow, weak, and pathetic. Forest didn’t fight his best either and even said after the fight he was too nice bc he knew Tito was injured and hurting during the fight.
Every fight I have seen Tito in lately has been WEAK. I am trying to be a fan, but common. He BARELY wins. His fights lately have been boring and slow and just a snore. Plus, he barely fights that much anyhow. His “ground and pound” game hasn’t been strong or convincing. His older past fights might have been good, so those who have been watching UFC awhile know what he is capable of. But for new watchers, Tito is LAME and past his prime and done. I think he is burnt out.
He also gets injured easily it seems.
I won’t miss his big head and pale chicken legs. Good riddens. I hope he gets a nice piece of humble pie when he loses and gets his big head bashed in. He may try to justify the need for more money bc of what he puts his body through, but no one is making him fight. He can do something else, and thats the problem, he doesn’t know anything else.
Tito just needs to leave the whole Shamrock family alone! Tito vs. Frank: 2 talented cowards who constantly refused to fight the best fighters, yet continue to run their mouths about how they are the best.
Tito vs. Shamrock! A joke of a fight, that I will not support. I wont be watching that fight…thats for sure!
I liked Tito after TUF3 he show really good coaching skills, he seems a nice guy, when he fought Liddell I though he had a good chance he was a really top contender, but man his fighting career went down hill after that fight, I wasn’t impress in his fight against Evans, I agree with the UFC that doesn’t want to pay him more than what he’s making now, he is not the smae icon he was a few years back, he’s better of going to a lower class league.
I cant wait for him to go away from the UFC. All he does is tie up good fighters in boring matches. Machida is a top notch guy, and because Tito is a has been with a BIG NAME, the UFC wastes Machida on a fight with this Has-been!
Tito has a huge name in the sport, so the UFC always matches him up against a decent opponent and Tito doesnt deserve it, and all it does is tie up real fighters in B.S matches. Fighters fight only 1 out of every 3-6 months, and Machida is being tied up with a B.S match against Tito who doesnt event want to fight.
Tito….Please Hurry up go away, and you can spend the rest of your life fighting Shamrocks…..Now he can fight Frank 3 times, and when thatrs done, I hear Ken as a son who is an up and coming fighter, Tito could waste 3 more fights and a year and a half fighting Ken’s son!
Go Away Jacab Ortiz!!!!!!!!
Wasn’t Tito a coach on the Ultimate Fighter which was on Spike TV? So much for the UFC not putting Tito on TV. I hope Machida destroys him.
Tito will throw the match to Machida just to piss Dana off and therefore making the ppv a crap one. Just a conpiracy theory really. Would be funny if he did.
*Conspiracy.
He will go to the middle of the octagon, lie down and let Machida submit him.
When tito leaves the ufc the ppv will be going donwhill,and as for the ufc fans saying that their are second hand of fighters in other organizations that makes me laugh when the ufc if hyping up these fighters that are second tier fighters[lesner,fitch,and the soon to be defeated so called #5 ranked fighter in the lightheavyweight division MACHIDA] Tito will be missed in the ufc and dana this will be my last ppv event i purchase from the ufc as long as tito is gone! UFC…………UNDERRATED FIGHTERS CLUB!!!!!!
[quote post=”5229″]Tito is the Rich Franklin of the LHW division. He’ll probably go into the fight and do nothing, just lose to make the UFC look stupid. Hopefully he comes out and beats the shit out of Machida so he can go elsewhere and get the money he wants. Hate to see him go. [/quote]
WOW, really cutting on Franklin! but I’d have to disagree. I don’t think that Rich Franklin is that far removed from his prime, in fact, if it wasnt for Anderson, he would still be considered to be in his prime. Tito has been passed his prime for years. Also, Rich is a well rounded fighter, where as Tito hasn’t added something new to his game for 10 years. Also, Rich Franlin has never fallen out of the Top 5 of the MW division, where as Tito hasn’t been in the Top 5 of the LHW division for years.
[quote comment=”347706″]Guys leaving or having problems with the UFC/Dana White:
Fedor
Randy
Andrei Arlovsky
Tito Ortiz
Tim Sylvia
If anyone can add to this list, please do.
Why do people think that Dana’s beef with Tito is unique? Dana White is a brash business man. He’s arrogant and he steps on people’s toes.
But look at the guys he’s had beef with. These aren’t low teir TUF fighters. These guys are PPV sellers, fan favorites, and guys that have put this sport where it is. Once these guys defect, others will follow. And the UFC will be the equivalent to the WWE with EliteXC its TNA.[/quote]
Matt Lindland
Nick Diaz
Frank Shamrock
[quote comment=”347429″]tito shoulnt be paid shit hes not a light heavyweight contender if he wants a payout he can take a ass beatin from chuck again but hes fightin machida and hes gonna lose u dont win u dont get money its simple[/quote]
Getting paid in this sport has very little to do with how good you are, it’s all about name recognition and hype. Tito has a big name, and he can hype a fight like no other. As a result he sells PPV’s to the average fight fan. Hardcore fans will buy a PPV because someone like Machida is fighting, but the average joes does not. I know Machida is better than Tito, hell, even Tito probably knows as well, but it takes more than a shiny record to sell PPV’s and get paid.
Tito is EXACTLY what an upstart like EliteXC needs. If I were them I would make him the highest paid fighter on the roster.
See ya Tito! Don’t let the door hit your pompous ass on the way out!
The more I listen to this asshole whine, bitch and complain, the more I can’t wait for Lyoto Machida to kick his ass. Tito obviously doesn’t know what the hell he’s talking about because he accuses Dana of not promoting him and putting him on TV even though “The Final Chapter” (starring Ken Shamrock & Tito Ortiz on Spike TV) brought in the highest ratings on free tv!
Tito also mentions Elite XC striking a deal with NBC even though they struck a deal with CBS.
The guy is so removed from reality that he doesn’t know what the hell he’s talking about. He’s a true Hollywood Celebrity! He’s an idiot and I’m SOOOOOOOOOO glad the UFC decided to drop him. He’s doesn’t belong on the big stage anymore.
[quote comment=”348187″]I cant wait for him to go away from the UFC. All he does is tie up good fighters in boring matches. Machida is a top notch guy, and because Tito is a has been with a BIG NAME, the UFC wastes Machida on a fight with this Has-been!
Tito has a huge name in the sport, so the UFC always matches him up against a decent opponent and Tito doesnt deserve it, and all it does is tie up real fighters in B.S matches. Fighters fight only 1 out of every 3-6 months, and Machida is being tied up with a B.S match against Tito who doesnt event want to fight.
Tito….Please Hurry up go away, and you can spend the rest of your life fighting Shamrocks…..Now he can fight Frank 3 times, and when thatrs done, I hear Ken as a son who is an up and coming fighter, Tito could waste 3 more fights and a year and a half fighting Ken’s son!
Go Away Jacab Ortiz!!!!!!!![/quote]
I think they have a sister too.
I think Frank Shamrock would beat Tito.
You’re fired!
I think Frank would win also but I also believe it would be an entertaining fight.
its obvious tito transformed from a fighter to a business man. the fight with frank shamrock would make him more $ because of the shamrock name. and plus frank’s a little over the hill so he won’t get embarassed and ruin his name like one of the lesser known, up and coming top tier guys would do to him.
Look at Jenna back there. You know she’s thinking “dance puppet, dance.”
[quote comment=”347472″]Don’t be surprised if Tito re-signs with the UFC…they’ve done this bad blood, good cop bad cop routine before.[/quote]
Yes and combined with his comment “i’m a buisness man now” why not, Good point dude
I think there is a lot of animosity towards Dana White from lots of different fighters besides Tito so we really should take that into account. Sure he has built the sport up from scratch and deserves credit but he has some contract issues.
Anderson Silva was paid less than Heath Herring in UFC 82, and Andrei Arlovski made more than Silva and was on the undercard when Silva was the main event…go figure. Chuck Liddell gets paid 5 times as much as Anderson Silva. I would like to see EliteXC offer Silva a huge contract and watch White squirm.
White is quickly becoming what Don King is to boxing and that cannot be good, so good on Tito and others who are standing up to him.
[quote comment=”347416″]Did he call them Jenito? As in Jenna-Tito? lol Wow.[/quote]
YEA…SUPER GAY
i could care less if he leaves, i just hope hope he whipps Machidas azz before leaving.
[quote comment=”347897″]Frank shamrock will win the rematch if it happens[/quote]
Frank will win the Rematch because Frank was the first one to discover what only then sparring partner Chuck Liddell knew… and that is Tito dont like getting hit… You hit him he goes into a shell.
Frank by ref stoppage…
I just want to say this Tito has only lost to Randy and Chuck in long time. He fought Shamrock because that fight everybody wanted to see and the UFC made some millions then everybody saw what happened the first time.Stubborn Shamrock wanted another beating and they made the fight happen again, the same outcome.Tito did not ask for the fight Shamrock did.He won the fight with Rashad ,but Tito was boring Rashad wasnt.Come on haters!The fight was a draw ,but Tito won.Tito knows how to sell a fight Who will pay to see Machida? His relatives and neighbors.I know he needs a good perfomance next time he fights.
[quote comment=”347352″]Good riddance. He hasn’t fought like a champion for some time now being primarily focused on the $money$ and pr(which he does for the $$ too). He should do a lot better because he’ll be fighting lower classed fighters like himself. A big fish in a small pond…..no scratch that, a big headed fish in a small pond.[/quote]
man, tito has a point when it comes to the amount of money fighters are paid. comparing ufc ticket and ppv sales to boxing ticket and ppv sales, they are pretty much equal. ufc events bring is as much money at the gate as boxing matches do, and ufc ppv’s cost only $5.00 less than boxing ppv’s and the ufc has as many ppv buys as boxing ppv’s do. So why do main event boxers make MILLIONS, and i mean MILLION(S), per fight, when ufc headliners make small 6 figures. liddell gets the most at $500,000 per fight, most headliners are lucky to make $100,000. Somebody is getting rich and it’s not the fighters who are putting their body on the line.
[quote comment=”347574″]DirtbadHtr - Tito, just like the rest of the 205 pounders know exactly who Machida is, they just don’t like an unbeatable guy coming through the ranks. I can not see Tito beating Machida, as he is too good on his feet and off his back.
It doesnt matter if you like him or hate him, know one on the planet can market themselves better than Tito. Good on him.[/quote]
machida had won 12 fights. come on, seriously, who has he fought. an out of shape, first time in the cage sokoudju. yeah it’s pretty easy to beat a 23 yr. old kid who has only a handful of fights to his name, and none of them being in a cage even. if machida beats ortiz, then he has my respect, until then, his wins in the WFA are a joke when it comes to saying this guy is top 10. in 3-4 yrs. Soko will destroy machida, if that long from now.
[quote comment=”348534″]
White is quickly becoming what Don King is to boxing and that cannot be good, so good on Tito and others who are standing up to him.[/quote]
Don King pays WAY more then Dana White
[quote comment=”347381″][quote comment=”347340″]tito is way to into himself.
If he was never in the UFC he would be some janitor.[/quote]
You couldn’t be more wrong. Dana White has done so much to make Tito look like a bum. Does anyone remember that hour long special he made promoting that boxing match he was supposed to have with Tito??? How come Tito didn’t have a special telling his side of the story. How do we know it was Tito who wanted the fight cancelled? Many will say that he fought a washed up Shamrock numerous times and lost to Liddell twice, but the truth is he is one of the fighters that made the UFC what it is today. People enjoyed watching him to his “Mock Burial” after he KO a guy. He helped the UFC go mainstrean with his appearences on The Best Damn Sports Show Period, and he along with a few others can sell PPV fights like no other.[/quote]
-If tito would be a janitor, then im curious to think what chuck would be??? hes as dumb as nails! ~blah
[quote comment=”348016″][quote comment=”347706″]Guys leaving or having problems with the UFC/Dana White:
Fedor
Randy
Andrei Arlovsky
Tito Ortiz
Tim Sylvia
If anyone can add to this list, please do.
Why do people think that Dana’s beef with Tito is unique? Dana White is a brash business man. He’s arrogant and he steps on people’s toes.
But look at the guys he’s had beef with. These aren’t low teir TUF fighters. These guys are PPV sellers, fan favorites, and guys that have put this sport where it is. Once these guys defect, others will follow. And the UFC will be the equivalent to the WWE with EliteXC its TNA.[/quote]
Matt Lindland
Josh Barnett[/quote]
-idk about that wrestling comparison since i dont watch it, but i completely agree with you on dana stepping on fighters toes! (I mean how many fighters does he have to have a personal vendetta with for people to realize dana is JOKE)i hope ur right and fighters start defecting to Elite and making it more competative, the sport needs it! it will only bring better fights for the promotion, so a huge benefit for us “MMA” fans who like it general not just “UFC”~blah
Here we are judging Dana’s character flaws: complaining about what he should be compensating his fighters like we giva damn. Or how about, “he shouldn’t say the F word”?. But fact is we’re all tuned into the sport like fly’s on doodoo and UFC wouldn’t be what it is without him - neither would Randy, Tito, and any other fighter that left for that matter. There’s plenty of other fighters trying to get in. If they can do better somewhere else, go ahead. UFC is not going to have ALL the best, but everyone knows they have MOST of the best -especially with PRIDE gone, and thats what gives the organization and its fighter’s credibility that M1 or EliteXC doesn’t have. Fighters now are getting paid BANK compared to back in the day. He hands out bonuses multiple times my annual salary FOR FREE. So the Dana haters need to stop bitching and recognize the truth that he’s bustin his ass putting on the sickest venues in the sport.
[quote comment=”347348″]Smart move for him. He’s probably going to lose to Machida and if he lost another one after that the UFC would have to cut him anyway. Can’t pay undercard fighters Tito money.[/quote]
well this is his last fight on the contract so they can pay him what he agrees to next. and yes they casn afford to payt undercard fighters big money they just dont cause they are stingey bas***D*
[quote comment=”348613″][quote comment=”347574″]DirtbadHtr - Tito, just like the rest of the 205 pounders know exactly who Machida is, they just don’t like an unbeatable guy coming through the ranks. I can not see Tito beating Machida, as he is too good on his feet and off his back.
It doesnt matter if you like him or hate him, know one on the planet can market themselves better than Tito. Good on him.[/quote]
machida had won 12 fights. come on, seriously, who has he fought. an out of shape, first time in the cage sokoudju. yeah it’s pretty easy to beat a 23 yr. old kid who has only a handful of fights to his name, and none of them being in a cage even. if machida beats ortiz, then he has my respect, until then, his wins in the WFA are a joke when it comes to saying this guy is top 10. in 3-4 yrs. Soko will destroy machida, if that long from now.[/quote]
If you think that Sokodjou is the only “name fighter” that Machida has beaten, then you are sadly mistaken. Outside of the UFC, Machida owns wins over Stephen Bonnar, BJ Penn, and Rich Franklin.
TITO……..simpley the best mma fighter period.When he whips this #5 guy ranked in the world he will prove that he belongs with the best ranked fighters.Dana punkass white wants him gone because he knows TITO will become champ again so dana dont want that but beating danas top five fighter will prove that the ufc competition is getting weak.
1) Tito is not the best fighter
2) Tito will never be a champion again
3)jenito?- Grow a pair of balls you fat headed retard
4) The UFC dose not need him
[quote comment=”348767″][quote comment=”348613″][quote comment=”347574″]DirtbadHtr - Tito, just like the rest of the 205 pounders know exactly who Machida is, they just don’t like an unbeatable guy coming through the ranks. I can not see Tito beating Machida, as he is too good on his feet and off his back.
It doesnt matter if you like him or hate him, know one on the planet can market themselves better than Tito. Good on him.[/quote]
machida had won 12 fights. come on, seriously, who has he fought. an out of shape, first time in the cage sokoudju. yeah it’s pretty easy to beat a 23 yr. old kid who has only a handful of fights to his name, and none of them being in a cage even. if machida beats ortiz, then he has my respect, until then, his wins in the WFA are a joke when it comes to saying this guy is top 10. in 3-4 yrs. Soko will destroy machida, if that long from now.[/quote]
If you think that Sokodjou is the only “name fighter” that Machida has beaten, then you are sadly mistaken. Outside of the UFC, Machida owns wins over Stephen Bonnar, BJ Penn, and Rich Franklin.[/quote]
Machida is a very difficult fight for Tito, or anyone period. He won’t gas out, his precision counter fighting style preserves his energy while taking the steam out of his opponents. It’s not exciting but it keeps him in the big win column.
[quote comment=”348597″][quote comment=”347352″]Good riddance. He hasn’t fought like a champion for some time now being primarily focused on the $money$ and pr(which he does for the $$ too). He should do a lot better because he’ll be fighting lower classed fighters like himself. A big fish in a small pond…..no scratch that, a big headed fish in a small pond.[/quote]
man, tito has a point when it comes to the amount of money fighters are paid. comparing ufc ticket and ppv sales to boxing ticket and ppv sales, they are pretty much equal. ufc events bring is as much money at the gate as boxing matches do, and ufc ppv’s cost only $5.00 less than boxing ppv’s and the ufc has as many ppv buys as boxing ppv’s do. So why do main event boxers make MILLIONS, and i mean MILLION(S), per fight, when ufc headliners make small 6 figures. liddell gets the most at $500,000 per fight, most headliners are lucky to make $100,000. Somebody is getting rich and it’s not the fighters who are putting their body on the line.[/quote]
Tito does have great points… but Tito also has some issues… it makes it difficult to not counter him with criticizm. Tito should sign with X-Elite, that would be a good organization for his style… and in a few more fights… take on Kimbo.
[quote comment=”348309″][quote post=”5229″]Tito is the Rich Franklin of the LHW division. He’ll probably go into the fight and do nothing, just lose to make the UFC look stupid. Hopefully he comes out and beats the shit out of Machida so he can go elsewhere and get the money he wants. Hate to see him go. [/quote]
WOW, really cutting on Franklin! but I’d have to disagree. I don’t think that Rich Franklin is that far removed from his prime, in fact, if it wasnt for Anderson, he would still be considered to be in his prime. Tito has been passed his prime for years. Also, Rich is a well rounded fighter, where as Tito hasn