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“I [Anderson Silva] still don’t consider myself the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world. Maybe when I retire, I can look back and then say I was the best pound-for-pound.”
He said it … not me.
March 2nd, 2008
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1st
He’s wrong!!
HES RIGHT ITS GSP
Id like to see him gain weight and fight Rampage. Obviously theres nothing left to prove at 185
I say he is wrong. GSP is not as mentally strong as Silva. His mental strength (Silva) is one of his strongest attributes.
He thinks it’s Franklin.
once he learns english maybe!!!
[quote comment=”339747″]HES RIGHT ITS GSP[/quote]
NONONONONONONONONO.
GSP is a great fighter, but he ain’t pound 4 pound the best.
I agree with him. As of right now he may or may not be, but if he bumps up, or cuts down and dominates like he is now, then I would say yes!
Okay, GSP got knocked out once, has since come back and won 2 fights against 2 top ten guys. (in dominant fashion).. but yea, he’s still mentally weak..
1.) GSP
2.) Anderson Silva
It really is betwen him and GSP. Had GSP not lost to Serra he would be considered a GOD. Arguably GSP has faced harder copetition than Silva.
Who knows who is the best P4P.. it’s a toss up imo.
anderson has neva bieng knokd out.
PERIOD
ander 1
bj penn 2
he wouldnt of said it unless he knew it was true.
IMO
1fedor (until he gets beaten)
2SILVA
3GSP
4BJ PENN (he keeps it up and he will be 1 in no time)
[quote comment=”339793″]anderson has neva bieng knokd out.
PERIOD
ander 1
bj penn 2[/quote]
WW division >>>>>>>> MW division.
BJ Penn’s definitely in the conversation, but I think GSP and Silva are the clear numbers 1 and 2.
I would personally say:
GSP
Silva
Penn
Fedor
Thats just his way of making sure that he works hard when he trains.
sorry guys, Matt Serra > all
rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrofl
Does anyone know where I can get the Sanchez fight?
Screw p4p Anderson Silva would beat anyone…..He’s the best, lets hope he moves up or down weight classes, if possible and really prove his mettle and take himself to another level.
I think Silva is #1 right now, but tomorrow it could very easily change. BJ Penn, GSP, Fedor are all up there.
As for Silva’s next opponent, I think Paulo Filho should be next, that would be a great fight! Dana has mentioned having fights between UFC and WEC champs in the future, and now is the time. I really don’t care to see Okami fight Silva, and it looks like GSP is going to be at 170 for a little while longer.
Disagree all you want, but at 185 Filho is the most logical opponent (to me), he is no walk in the park. He has the ability to keep this fight on the ground, and I don’t see him being submitted by Silva.
That being said, Silva is a true tested champion and since his UFC debut I have become a big fan. I think he would take this one by knockout.
[quote comment=”339751″]He thinks it’s Franklin. :)[/quote]
LOL
the term pound for pound best is tossed around in boxing far to often what we can truely say is he is in a class by himself at 185 he may not be the same guy at 205 or 170 but until he comes close to loosing or looses he is the man in this weight division. he is also in an elite class in showing humility and respect and people like that usually dont blow there own horn they always say im still learning every day.
wow!! so you guys are so in love with silva that your going contradict something only he can judge himself. he is whatever he considers himself to be in my eys ill will respect that always.
silva has a point, ur not best p4p until you have fought every1 available and you retire. not the kind of running-away-retiring that randy does, but the legit i-have-no1-else-to-fight retiring.
ur and idiot, randy has never, in his entire career, been considered the best P4P and Silva is talking about retiring after his contract expires. A true fighter fights until they cant anymore.
[quote comment=”339751″]He thinks it’s Franklin. :)[/quote]
ROFL!!!
Shut up Anderson, you are the best P4P fighter in the world…
Silva > Fedor
[quote comment=”339829″]wow!! so you guys are so in love with silva that your going contradict something only he can judge himself. he is whatever he considers himself to be in my eys ill will respect that always.[/quote]
I call that being humble, Fedor is the same way. If he went around saying he was the best in the world, he would sound like Melvin Guillard.
It’s difficult to gauge. He is the more dominant fighter, and probibly the most fine tuned striker this world has ever seen, but he isn’t as well rounded as a guy like GSP or BJ Penn. I don’t put Penn in there with Silva or GSP beceause of his conditioning (until he proves me wrong). It’s hard for me to se GSP getting beat by anyone in any spot. Standing, on the ground, in the clinch, from a distance, or in the wrestling game. Silva I still feel can be taken down and pounded out or submitted. Maby not by anybody in the world @ middleweight now, but somebody, somewhere, sometime may be able to beat him. It is very difficult to figure who is really the best pound-for-pound, but if these two fought I’d have to give the edge to Silva. But in all fairness I have no idea.
[quote comment=”339747″]HES RIGHT ITS GSP[/quote]
LOL… Dude barely beat BJ and got BEATEN down by Serra… You really think he has shit on Silva.
GSP is great and dominating, but Silva is straight up lethal…
buddy you are clearly a UFC fan and not an MMA fan… silva has lost to Daiju Takase, a C+ fighter on his best day
GSP fights in one of the most stacked divisions in the UFC and silva fights in the worst. If you look at their records GSP’s is better and has a higher level of comp.
And GSP just DOMINATED a top 5 p4p fighter in BJ. Anderson fights guys that are the perfect style for him to fight… hendo was the only one that was a threat…. white always talks shit about who fedor fights and beats (only old UFC champs- in seconds/minutes at are in the top 10 in there division) yet silva has fought maybe 2… silva is an overhyped can crusher… cote was practically a given fight to him and he looked like shit…
GSP got caught by serra and hughes…. happens silva was caught just as many times and was beat going the distance….
silva isnt the best and only those who are new to the sport and fall to the UFC advertising think so… if he wasnt in the UFC dana would be sayying the truth
–I know u guys have all this hate towards fedor because he didnt sign a precious contract w UFC, but You guys really need to give him his dues. Go watch some of his past fights, especially if u like anderson silva! Hes just like him but bigger and stronger.
He can beat you with a punch, a kick or a submission! it will make you think twice about not ranking him the best. He unlike others is proven and has beaten the best! the UFCs best HW is noguera right now, and he not only beat him once, but multiple times! He might not be the best in many readers minds and those silly yahoo rankings (which btw i think that top 10 ranking is just a popularity contest IMO)but theres a reason why he is considered the best by the the opinions that truly matter, and thats the fighters opinions!
Anderson Silva is the Bruce Lee of MMA, think about it.
Maybe UFC should pull a Pride card and have a tournament where weight has no boundries. Make up a new title…Pound for Pound Champion.
As far as who is the best pound for pound…have to say Silva. Would be nice to see a GSP/Silva showdown.
[quote comment=”339895″][quote comment=”339747″]HES RIGHT ITS GSP[/quote]
LOL… Dude barely beat BJ and got BEATEN down by Serra… You really think he has shit on Silva.
GSP is great and dominating, but Silva is straight up lethal…[/quote]
You took the words straight out of my mouth.
GSP is great at beating wrestlers, and that’s where all of his big wins have come from, but he only won a split decision vs an unmotivated Penn and was KO’d by Serra.
Silva is the top P4P fighter in the sport right now, beating fighters of a variety of different styles, and doing so convincingly.
you hit it perfectly anderson has beaten so many guys so many different ways. While gsp wins by ground and pound and physically overwhelms guys only.
you say right now… mean while those losses and wins happened years ago… silva fights in the UFC least talented division
[quote comment=”339937″]–I know u guys have all this hate towards fedor because he didnt sign a precious contract w UFC, but You guys really need to give him his dues. Go watch some of his past fights, especially if u like anderson silva! Hes just like him but bigger and stronger.
He can beat you with a punch, a kick or a submission! it will make you think twice about not ranking him the best. He unlike others is proven and has beaten the best! the UFCs best HW is noguera right now, and he not only beat him once, but multiple times! He might not be the best in many readers minds and those silly yahoo rankings (which btw i think that top 10 ranking is just a popularity contest IMO)but theres a reason why he is considered the best by the the opinions that truly matter, and thats the fighters opinions![/quote]
How is Fedor proven. Sure he proved himself in the past but its been two and a half years since he beat a legit opponet (Cro Cop Augsut 05). Silva on the other hand has been facing top midddleweight contender every 3-5 months. You can’t consider yourself a top pound for pound if you decided you don’t want to fight anyone good anymore.
Fedor is still the best p4p in mma. I know he hasn’t fought the best competetion in mma lately but he’s still the best. Jordan took 2 and a half years off of basketball. Was he still not the best basketball player then?
yeah silva is automatic. no chance of mistake. it seems that he is the kind of fighter who will never be upset (i.e. serra and GSP) because of his out-of-this-world technique and focused yet easy going mindset
I agree silva is the best p4p because he’s proven it against top competition recently but Urijah Faber and fedor are right up there too.
I’m a huge GSP fans since his first fight with the UCC and i don’t think he is the best P4P for now… but he’s still young and he becomes better and better fight after fight.
Silva
GSP
Fedor
Penn
k gsp is not even a real champ, penn will barely beat sherk, silva is great, but fedor owns all
24 hrs ago I wouldn’t have said he was the #1 P4P in the world. But he just dominated Hendo. Rampage couldn’t finish him and Silva did.
I think Silva and Fedor are real close right now. I consider Fedor #2 just because he hasn’t faced a top 5 heavyweight in a few years (I blame this more on politics than Fedor). Thing with these two is that when the opportunity to finish is there they can take it like no one else in the sport can. Submission or KO, when that door is open, they walk right through.
I put GSP #3. Needs to prove Serra was a fluke.
BJ #4. Hasn’t beat a top 5 in awhile, but the skills are there.
i reckon BJ Penn is the best P4P.
when Silva makes a run for the 205 then and only then will we be able to gauge if he’s top P4P. i think Silva needs to perform well against bigger dudes first. the problem is that the LHW division is flatout STACKED with great fighters.
[quote comment=”339955″][quote comment=”339895″][quote comment=”339747″]HES RIGHT ITS GSP[/quote]
LOL… Dude barely beat BJ and got BEATEN down by Serra… You really think he has shit on Silva.
GSP is great and dominating, but Silva is straight up lethal…[/quote]
You took the words straight out of my mouth.[/quote]Agree! 100%!
[quote comment=”339747″]HES RIGHT ITS GSP[/quote]
Silva said post fight he may drop weight. So we will see if GSP truely is the better P$P fighter. Im not a big silva fan but he truely is in my mind the best P4P fighter out there. His standup is truely on a different level than anyone else in the UFC.
i m pretty sure hes being a bit humble but there are good fighters out there ,,hey i truly agree w the gent who said he should nt even shed go in at his actual weight 200 its only 5 lbs less then 205 ,u can be 5 lbs under ????cant u ?? i think he takes that belt too …or would that hurt danas cash cow somehow???ANDERSON …ITS TIME TO GO TO 205 …I DONT THINK U CAN LOSE 15 LBS TO GO TO 170???CAN U????
AFTER SEEN HIM IN THE CAGE WITH HENDERSON EVERYONE DOES. MAN EVEN RAMPAGE COULDNT DO IT I WAS BLOWN AWAY BY SILVAS PERFORMANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gsp is not in silvas level silva will kill him he lost to matt serra who the hell his he i man he is a good fighter but gsp was supposed to run through him but didnt the fight i want to see is Rampage vs silva but the again Silva coms out on top i just dont see any one wining silva or andeson silva va wanderlei silva and the winer is anderson silva
I think Silva is the best pound for pound. I think GSP would have to beat Matt Serra and then defend his title a few times, maybe against Fitch and then someone else, before being the best pound for pound.
silva is great, but lets see how gsp does against serra and then we could say if he is the best or not. put a conditioned penn back at 185 and we have one of the best fights ever.want a wild card fighter for silva, cung le after his fight with frank shamrock, this kid has what it takes for some excitement in the ufc, not that there isnt any, just saying. filho is good but to short to fight silva, he’d get worked, great height for those wicked silva knees.
I think you could easily make a case for Urijah Favor being the best pound for pound fighter. It’s hard to put one over the other. They are both incredibly dominate. I think the difference with those two guys is they are “super athletes”. I think when you find people like this you could put them in almost any sport and they would excel.
[quote comment=”339778″]Okay, GSP got knocked out once, has since come back and won 2 fights against 2 top ten guys. (in dominant fashion).. but yea, he’s still mentally weak..
1.) GSP
2.) Anderson Silva[/quote]
Okay, Anderson has never been knocked out and since defended his title 4 straight times FINISHING ALL OF THEM IN DOMINANT FASHION (well if it wasn’t for lutter’s lazy ass not making weight). Anderson is also cleared out his division. There is NO one left for him to fight. GSP still has Serra, Fitch, and a rematch with Penn.
1. Silva
2. Penn
3. Fedor
4. GSP
Yushin Okami is the best, hell he already beat him in pride.
If GSP is the best pound for pound fighter thah he wouldn’t have lost to Serra.
Read the other opinions and heres my list for P4P. It will probably take a year or so for most of you guys to agree with me but id say once all the dust settles it looks like this in the MMA history books:
#1) BJ Penn
2)Anderson
3)Fedor
4)GSP
5)Leonard Garcia . . . LoL! Im funny! Loosen up . . . Top Four Stand though.
How is Fedor proven. Sure he proved himself in the past but its been two and a half years since he beat a legit opponet (Cro Cop Augsut 05). Silva on the other hand has been facing top midddleweight contender every 3-5 months. You can’t consider yourself a top pound for pound if you decided you don’t want to fight anyone good anymore.[/quote]
–Again, if you have to ask “how is fedor proven”, then you need to see some of his fights. What gives you the idea he doesnt want to “fight anyone good anymore”??? Have u already forgotten that all hes been wanting to do is make that randy fight happen! Up until he fought lindland, matt was being touted as one of the best pound for pound, but when fedor easily beats him, people start finding excuses that he was too small for fedor etc.
The problem is hes just simply running out of guys to prove himself against! what is he supposed to do, fight the UFC champ noguera YET AGAIN lol…
BTW…i wouldnt call a 6-0 record exceptionally well just yet! same goes on him beating franklin 2. Franklin almost lost to okami and he got destroyed my machida!–
[quote comment=”340210″]If GSP is the best pound for pound fighter thah he wouldn’t have lost to Serra.[/quote]
Yea, yea, keep pointing out the one fight he lost, but ignore ALL of the fights he won in dominant fashion. It’s not like his last 7 fights were against top 10 guys or anything…
when Silva makes a run for the 205 then and only then will we be able to gauge if he’s top P4P. i think Silva needs to perform well against bigger dudes first. the problem is that the LHW division is flatout STACKED with great fighters.[/quote]
–WELL SAID!
[quote comment=”339973″]Fedor is still the best p4p in mma. I know he hasn’t fought the best competetion in mma lately but he’s still the best. Jordan took 2 and a half years off of basketball. Was he still not the best basketball player then?[/quote]
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[quote comment=”339749″]I say he is wrong. GSP is not as mentally strong as Silva. His mental strength (Silva) is one of his strongest attributes.[/quote]
you are right, Silva is just one mentally strong dude and he seems to train harder for each fight
I wanted Hendo to win so they would bring Filho from WEC in to fight him…. Better match up but Silva man I was pretty impressed with his showing last nite, I have no question he might be the best pound for pound right now in this given time. Things change for example, Liddell was king until he got raped by rampage. Give it time.
Speaking of Liddell, I hope Silva goes to LHW and kicks his ass.
Honestly, who’s the say who is the best pound for pound? THERE IS NO REAL WAY TO TELL! Boxing is much easier to giva an opinion because it is one dimentional. But MMA? Too many variables and technique (striking, wrestling, BJJ, …).
Obviously, the TOP 4 P4P fighters in the world, IN NO SPECIFIC order:
The Last Emperor
GSP
The Prodigy
The Spider
Anyone Ranking them from 1st to last is basicly PURE OPINION! To all you Fedor haters out there who say he ain’t Top 4 P4P because of the lack of quality oponents or he’s “ducking” competition: GO READ WHAT OTHER FIGHTERS ARE SAYING PUBLICLY! NO ONE (including Barnett) WANTS TO FIGHT HIM!!! Right now, Randy is ONE OF the only fighters who is willing to at this moment. There are others, but not many.
[quote comment=”340248″]How is Fedor proven. Sure he proved himself in the past but its been two and a half years since he beat a legit opponet (Cro Cop Augsut 05). Silva on the other hand has been facing top midddleweight contender every 3-5 months. You can’t consider yourself a top pound for pound if you decided you don’t want to fight anyone good anymore.[/quote]
–Again, if you have to ask “how is fedor proven”, then you need to see some of his fights. What gives you the idea he doesnt want to “fight anyone good anymore”??? Have u already forgotten that all hes been wanting to do is make that randy fight happen! Up until he fought lindland, matt was being touted as one of the best pound for pound, but when fedor easily beats him, people start finding excuses that he was too small for fedor etc.
The problem is hes just simply running out of guys to prove himself against! what is he supposed to do, fight the UFC champ noguera YET AGAIN lol…
BTW…i wouldnt call a 6-0 record exceptionally well just yet! same goes on him beating franklin 2. Franklin almost lost to okami and he got destroyed my machida!–[/quote]
Not taking ANYTHING away from Silva, but Silva has been facing Top middleweights every 3 to 5 months?!?!?!?!?! HAHAHAHAHAHA
Ok lets numerate them:
1) Leben, Top middleweight? HAHAHA
2) Franklin, I’ll gibe you this one, a great champion
3) Lutter, HAHAHAHAHHAHA What a joke
4) Marquart, SO-SO legitimate, definately not TOP
5) Franklin, Not top middleweight anymore, everyone knew coming in that he was gonna lose the fight BAD
6) Hendo, BIGGEST TEST SO FAR, and victorious, congrads to Silva, he deserved it.
So that’s 2 TOP middleweights out of 6 fights.
I dont’ think that andesron silva should drop weight… cuz the only person that would be a contender would be GSP… and it would be too much weight to cut for anderson he sits at 215 in his last article… and the WW division isn’t that stacked… its owned my hughes and GSP… Matt Sara just got lucky with that connect….. Fitch is good but he’s no were near GSP good…. fitch stand up is no where near as good as GSP or his wreslting…. Anderson silva should go to 205 after he beats okami…and even then i think he has a good chance to beat almost everyone in that division.. only threat is Rampage… everyon else silva will walk through… especially liddell
[quote comment=”340210″]If GSP is the best pound for pound fighter thah he wouldn’t have lost to Serra.[/quote]
Thats means you would argue me and my opinion of Penn being best P4P with “If Penn was the best P4Per he wouldnt have lost a decision at 205lbs to Lyotto Machida . . .” No one besides Penn out of the four contenders for this P4P title has even tried to change weight classes at all, ever. While Penn has faught in all of them.
155lbs-Current UFC Champion
170lbs-Former UFC Champion(And will be again with in 2 years)
185lbs- (2-0) (Beating An Undefeated Rodrigo Gracie In Penns First Fight at 185lbs & Renzo Gracie In 2006)
205lbs- (0-1) Losing To An Undefeated And Still Undefeated Lyotto Machida In A Decision. (Penn Thinks He Won This Fight And Still See’s It That Way) (REMATCH) . . . Someday.
Here’s my rankings:
1. Anderson Silva
2. Georges St. Pierre
3. Rampage Jackson
4. Fedor Emelianenko
5. Tiger Woods (Nine iron to the nutsack can finish a fight)
Danny Abbadi > Anderson Silva
I’d like to see Silva beat a few other big names before I say he’s the best pound for pound, only problem is there are none in MW.
definately nothing to prove at middleweight anymore. This guy is just lethal and finishes everyone the second an opening comes up. Great fight last night. If he was to drop to vs gsp i think st piere would be in big trouble. If he goes to LH there are many great challenges for him ie. iceman, tiago silva, W silva, Rampage. All of these would be main event fights. I can’t see the need to stay in MW anymore he has proven himself! If he captures LH belt in future definately best p4p. 4 belts and counting…
I think you have to say right now silva is the best pound for pound, there is no question marks over his ability in any area in my opinion, yeah theres the argument that hes vurnerable to ground and pound at times, but hes been on his back to hendo now and received very little damage!
He has previously finished fights from there. I do think Bj is next hes the most naturally complex fighter i have ever seen. GSP has a bit to prove for me yet, hes got shaky jaw and has to prove this isnt an issue.
Next fight for silva, step up to 205 and fight the ICEMAN in London!! how good would that be, it would be a stand up fight for sure and atleast then we would know how good his stand up really is!! I dont see him beating the likes of Liddell standing!!
What do you guys think??
Bring back Lindland, he is the only one left.
[quote comment=”340329″][quote comment=”340248″]How is Fedor proven. Sure he proved himself in the past but its been two and a half years since he beat a legit opponet (Cro Cop Augsut 05). Silva on the other hand has been facing top midddleweight contender every 3-5 months. You can’t consider yourself a top pound for pound if you decided you don’t want to fight anyone good anymore.[/quote]
–Again, if you have to ask “how is fedor proven”, then you need to see some of his fights. What gives you the idea he doesnt want to “fight anyone good anymore”??? Have u already forgotten that all hes been wanting to do is make that randy fight happen! Up until he fought lindland, matt was being touted as one of the best pound for pound, but when fedor easily beats him, people start finding excuses that he was too small for fedor etc.
The problem is hes just simply running out of guys to prove himself against! what is he supposed to do, fight the UFC champ noguera YET AGAIN lol…
BTW…i wouldnt call a 6-0 record exceptionally well just yet! same goes on him beating franklin 2. Franklin almost lost to okami and he got destroyed my machida!–[/quote]
Not taking ANYTHING away from Silva, but Silva has been facing Top middleweights every 3 to 5 months?!?!?!?!?! HAHAHAHAHAHA
Ok lets numerate them:
1) Leben, Top middleweight? HAHAHA
2) Franklin, I’ll gibe you this one, a great champion
3) Lutter, HAHAHAHAHHAHA What a joke
4) Marquart, SO-SO legitimate, definately not TOP
5) Franklin, Not top middleweight anymore, everyone knew coming in that he was gonna lose the fight BAD
6) Hendo, BIGGEST TEST SO FAR, and victorious, congrads to Silva, he deserved it.
So that’s 2 TOP middleweights out of 6 fights.[/quote]
You laugh at the fight with Lutter, but think about this. Which fighter in your above list was able to put Silva in the most danger?
Answer: Lutter had Silva mounted and was raining down UN ANSWERED punches. Silva survived because he is a champion, but that fight was close to being stopped right there.
Henderson may have won the first round last Saturday, but he never had Silva in any serious danger, except for briefly getting side control.
Henderson did no better than anybody else on your list, so far Lutter was the greatest test.
Going out on a limb here however as good as Silva is I believe he is overrated at this time. We need to see more quality fights from Silva to really judge just how good a fighter he is. Silva is surely a well rounded MMA fighter however I would like to see him up against someone with the wrestling skills and gnd and pnd like GSPS or the well rounded BJ Penn. HE is great for the sport , a real class act and mentally tough but he has not fought the quality fighters in MMA as GSP,BJ Penn or Randy Couture has. His match with Hendo was a test as he clearly lost the first round. In my mind if Hendo sticks to taking him down and smothering him like the first round he wins this fight easily. Silva could not defend Hendos takedowns and looked helpless on the bottom accept blocking punches. Hendo decided to trade strikes and we all know what happens when fighters try that with Silva. I would also like to see what Silva’s cardio is like when taken to the distance. I do not think Silva could handle 5 rounds of take downs and gnd and pnd from a top MMA fighter as you have to have the ability to defend take downs. I keep mentioning the ground work because to truly be the best you have to have this in MMA today. there is no doubt that Silva is the best striker in MMA today however to say that he is the best pound for pound is a little premature. this is in no way meant to discredit Silva as we just need to see more top quality fighters against him. I could very well be wrong so lets see what happens in the future. My opinion comes from an athlete who has been around for over 30 years and not a fan. I am a fan of MMA and do agree with Silva’s statement.
Pound for pound? Possibly Silva right now. However, GSP is young and in a couple of years i don’t think we’ll be able to argue that he is the best pound for pound fighter in the world. Lets not forget also, the WW division is much deeper than the MW one.
Saying that Franklin is more of a champion than Hendo is totally inaccurate. Why Silva said this does not make sense unless he is just referring to UFC fighters as the top contenders. Fanklin is good however not in the same class as Hendo. Hendo is more well rounded and I would like to see them fight in the future. This is just my opinion and is not meant to discredit ACE.
Urijah Faber
I am a huge GSP fan, but in all fairness, he has yet to even successfully defend his welterweight title. This has to exclude him from the top spot on the Pound 4 pound list.
I say:
#1 would be Silva
#2 Fedor, he is the most unbeatable fighter, but Silva has proven himself against much better opponents in the past 2 years so he has to get the top spot.
#3 BJ Penn. In a recent Rampage interview they asked Rampage who the #1 P4P fighter in the sport was and he said, without a doubt its BJ Penn
#4: GSP, he hasnt proved it as a champion yet, because he has never won a title defense, but he has gone through the best of the welterweight division since joining the UFC back at UFC SuperNatural, where he dominated Karo in a decision win.
[quote comment=”339826″]the term pound for pound best is tossed around in boxing far to often what we can truely say is he is in a class by himself at 185 he may not be the same guy at 205 or 170 but until he comes close to loosing or looses he is the man in this weight division. he is also in an elite class in showing humility and respect and people like that usually dont blow there own horn they always say im still learning every day.[/quote]
i agree anderson silva is the best middle weight fighter in the world but, until he becomes champion in another weight class, which he might, i wouldnt consider him pound for pound.
GSP doesn’t have the edge that Silva has. His mind was somewhere else when he fought Serra, same as it was when he fought Hughes first time round.
Silva is THE dominating force in his weight class and the belt will be his until he decides to retire or move division.
He has beaten all the guys put in front of him and IMO he will beat Okami or Wanderlei if he does drop to 185.
[quote comment=”339748″]Id like to see him gain weight and fight Rampage. Obviously theres nothing left to prove at 185[/quote]
LINDLAND
1. Silva
2. GSP
3. BJ Penn
4. Fedor
(All 4 are well rounded in stand up and the ground game)
Silva has proven he’s one of the greatest. No doubt about it. It would be great to see him compete above or below his weight class, but beating Dan proves alot. After Okami, the only other person I can see is Lindland.
Rampage needs to avenge his losses against Wanderlei till I consider him up there. Yea, he may have beat Chuck, and Chuck beat Wanderlei, but still, he got straight beat down by Wanderlei twice. Needs to work on his ground game and be more well rounded.
GSP needs to win his title back and defend it a few times against, Karo, Fitch, and Penn to be considered where Silva is.
Fedor needs to fight Couture, Arlovski, or someone with some credibility instead of someone like Choi.
When I think of the best “pound for pound” fighter, I think of either someone that moves between wieght classes with great success, or, in most cases, by its literal meaning - POUND FOR POUND. That means that it can not be Fedor. Fedor wieghs like 235 pounds, about 20 of it being love handles, belly, and man boobs. He is wasting like 20 lbs of himself. On the other hand, Anderson Silva is a shredded 185 lbs. So, if you were to take Anderson Silva and turn him into a HW, he would end up looking like Kongo, no wasted wieght on his body. On the other hand, if Fedor was morphed into a MW, he would look like the fat kid in gym class that gets picked last in dodge ball.
Plus, it is very hard for a HW to prove that he’s the best pound for pound, because they can’t fight anyone bigger than themselves. However, a MW, can move up in weight and defeat larger fighters.
[quote comment=”341050″]Saying that Franklin is more of a champion than Hendo is totally inaccurate. Why Silva said this does not make sense unless he is just referring to UFC fighters as the top contenders. Fanklin is good however not in the same class as Hendo. Hendo is more well rounded and I would like to see them fight in the future. This is just my opinion and is not meant to discredit ACE.[/quote]
I have no idea why Anderson Silva made that statement, and it irritated me. What did Rich do in either of those fights to show anything? NOTHING. Dan Henderson won round 1 against Silva on 100 out of 100 scorecards. Even Momma Spider gave round 1 to Hendo. Rich Franklin has done nothing but get his nose and face rearranged by Silva.
I am hoping that Okami gets the title shot, but its not the main event of a PPV, hopefully there will be two titles on the line for that event (HIGHLY unlikely), or have a “Liddell/Shogun” type of match up on the card as well, meaning a non championship fight that is worthy of being a main event.
Then I am rooting for Franklin to beat Lutter, setting up a fight between Dan Henderson and Rich Franklin. I REALLY want to see Hendo lay the smack down on Franklin and shut Anderson Silva up. In the prefight interviews, did anyone else want to strangle Anderson Silva when he said something like “Hahaha, that’s impossible, hahaha” when he was told that Dan said that he’d beat him.
[quote comment=”341087″][quote comment=”339826″]the term pound for pound best is tossed around in boxing far to often what we can truely say is he is in a class by himself at 185 he may not be the same guy at 205 or 170 but until he comes close to loosing or looses he is the man in this weight division. he is also in an elite class in showing humility and respect and people like that usually dont blow there own horn they always say im still learning every day.[/quote]
i agree anderson silva is the best middle weight fighter in the world but, until he becomes champion in another weight class, which he might, i wouldnt consider him pound for pound.[/quote]
So in that case, who do you have as your top 3 pound for pound fighters? Dan Henderson, Randy Couture, and BJ Penn? Because those are the guys to hold belts in multiple weight classes.
[quote comment=”340409″][quote comment=”340210″]If GSP is the best pound for pound fighter thah he wouldn’t have lost to Serra.[/quote]
Thats means you would argue me and my opinion of Penn being best P4P with “If Penn was the best P4Per he wouldnt have lost a decision at 205lbs to Lyotto Machida . . .” No one besides Penn out of the four contenders for this P4P title has even tried to change weight classes at all, ever. While Penn has faught in all of them.
155lbs-Current UFC Champion
170lbs-Former UFC Champion(And will be again with in 2 years)
185lbs- (2-0) (Beating An Undefeated Rodrigo Gracie In Penns First Fight at 185lbs & Renzo Gracie In 2006)
205lbs- (0-1) Losing To An Undefeated And Still Undefeated Lyotto Machida In A Decision. (Penn Thinks He Won This Fight And Still See’s It That Way) (REMATCH) . . . Someday.[/quote]
Bulk up anderson and clean out LH. This will happen. Just wait and see.
I can’t believe how badly he burned henderson in the 2nd round. that was crazy…
henderson was a big disappiontment. i really thought he’d do some damage at least.
Unlike other fighters Silva hasn’t been tested in later rounds.
So until he stops decimating top competition in the first two rounds, it will be hard to tell if he’s actually any good.
No one is naming a LHW as the best pound-for-pound fighter so it seams silly to me that he should have to jump up a weight class to prove it. Silva recently said that he doesn’t plan on moving up and would consider dropping a class which would be excellent. GSP vs Silva would be f’n HUGE! These two seem to be the most highly regarded as the best, lets see it.
[quote comment=”341723″]No one is naming a LHW as the best pound-for-pound fighter so it seams silly to me that he should have to jump up a weight class to prove it. Silva recently said that he doesn’t plan on moving up and would consider dropping a class which would be excellent. GSP vs Silva would be f’n HUGE! These two seem to be the most highly regarded as the best, lets see it.[/quote]
Where did you hear that Silva was thinking about dropping in weight? Everything that I have seen, heard, and read indicate that he would move up in weight. He is a HUGE MW. At his current size, he would not be able to make 170. He walks around well over 200 lbs. So his natural progression would be to move up to LHW, just like ANDERSON SILVA has been saying.
I could have swore he had mentioned it in one of the press conferences either before or after the fight. I’ll see if I can find it.
[quote comment=”341770″][quote comment=”341723″]No one is naming a LHW as the best pound-for-pound fighter so it seams silly to me that he should have to jump up a weight class to prove it. Silva recently said that he doesn’t plan on moving up and would consider dropping a class which would be excellent. GSP vs Silva would be f’n HUGE! These two seem to be the most highly regarded as the best, lets see it.[/quote]
Where did you hear that Silva was thinking about dropping in weight? Everything that I have seen, heard, and read indicate that he would move up in weight. He is a HUGE MW. At his current size, he would not be able to make 170. He walks around well over 200 lbs. So his natural progression would be to move up to LHW, just like ANDERSON SILVA has been saying.[/quote]
The only class Silva would move to would be LHW! If he is to fight a welterweight, it would be either Matt Hughes or GSP moving up in weight to fight him at 185 lb. It wont be GSP because he has yet to successfully defend a title so he still has a lot of work at welterweight ahead of him. After Hughes fights Serra, I think there is a great possibility of Hughes moving up to fight Anderson Silva in a farewell fight and then he will retire in the Octagon a la Couture did after his 2nd KO loss to Liddell.
I don’t think Anderson should move up before letting his teammate Machida have his shot at the LHW title. I honestly don’t see where Anderson could lose another 15 lbs to fight at WW. In the short-term Anderson should fight Okami.
The UFC should open their hearts and wallets to bring in whatever top tier MW talent that they can find. Too bad most have already signed with DREAM. It looked like Lindland was willing to “bend the knee” and play by UFC’s rules, it is a shame for the fans that they didn’t work things out. They would be wise to court the winner (or even the loser) of Shamrock vs Le. Does anyone know of their contract statuses?
There are a couple of interesting prospects in the current UFC MW division in Lutter(rematch), Almeida, and Maia; but it may take a while to groom them for a title shot. Henderson should go back up to LHW and make big waves there.
He’s just being modest. If it’s not him, then who is it?
UFC.com post fight interview with Silva “everyone has their own problems and moving up in weight is not a problem I want to deal with but possibly maybe who knows, maybe move down.”
[quote comment=”341920″]UFC.com post fight interview with Silva “everyone has their own problems and moving up in weight is not a problem I want to deal with but possibly maybe who knows, maybe move down.”[/quote]
Interesting. I don’t see how he could lose the weight though. He’s gonna look like Corey Hill. Maybe it got lost in translation though and he meant somebody from LHW might come down to face him at MW.
Hi, friends. I’d like to make several points here that I think are very important when it comes to evaluating Anderson Silva’s current status as P4P best:
1) Being the P4P best is not a particularly complicated generalization. Traditionally the simplest way to calculate it has always been the following method: The average overall performance of the fighter against others in his weight division must be superior to the performance of all other fighters in his weight division or other weight divisions. You should take into consideration the caliber of opposition in the weight division, but that’s it. You should also look at RECENT performance. Leave it at that.
Another way to evaluate skill level is by listing out VERY IMPORTANT skills that make a great fighter. You can then assign points and carefully scrutinize the data before making judgements about P4P rankings. I do this below with Anderson Silva. (Of course, these ratings are my opinion, but I do feel there is plenty of evidence to back the ratings up.)
When you start “talking” about scaling fighters up, putting them in different weight classes, increasing their weights, imagining them against other fighters in different divisions, what ends up happening is that you make a lot of conjectures that end up very confusing.
You have to evaluate the CURRENT level of skill of the fighter. Anderson Silva used to be a poor man that worked at McDonald’s, couldn’t afford knee surgery, and had pitiful training and tons of stress in his life. His loss to Ryo Chonan, for instance, was not at the highpoint of his life. Silva had the genotype to be great, like he is now, but his phenotype at that point did not manifest. Trust me, Silva is not the same person today. He has so much to fight for now. He does not flip burgers to pay bills anymore. He trains full-time.
A P4P best fighter almost always has a mixture of unique physical talents along with two other important things: a) intelligence and b) Guts.
I do think Anderson Silva is currently the p4p the best fighter in the world. I think he has beaten very stiff competition, and he has done so decisively. In addition, his rate of improvement and natural talent are starting to become VERY EVIDENT. No other fighter in any other division has shown this much improvement. NONE! Period.
Perhaps the most important point I can make:
I watched Silva’s fight against Dan Henderson in regular speed and in slow motion. What I saw amazed me. At normal speed, it looked like a couple of punches Henderson through landed flush against Silva’s face. When I watched the fights in slow motion, however, I saw that Silva had actually pulled his head just far back enough to avoid the punches.
This type of reaction time is largely genetic. My feeling is that Silva’s hand/eye coordination and reaction time are extremely unusual.
A summary of why I think Anderson Silva is P4P the best fighter in the world, right now.
ON A SCALE OF 1-10: I rarely give 10s.
Speed- 9
Power- 7
Hand Striking technique-9
Leg Striking technique-9
Hand/eye coordination- 9
Timing- 9
Endurance- 8 (his cardio is fantastic)
Intelligence- 8 (He has adjusted to different fighter styles)
Current economic situation and mental health- 8
In the past, I would have given him a 3, here.
Guts- 8 (I’m guessing here, but he clearly is tough minded)
Wrestling- 6 (Significantly improved! Previously I would have given him a 4. His takedown defense is MUCH BETTER now. He has learned many counters. I think he can get this up to a 7 with a lot of work, but getting to an 8 might be very hard for him. Not sure.)
Jiu Jitsu- 8 (He’s improved this since his fight with Lutter) By the way, Anderson’s knees were LEGITIMATELY messued up before that fight. He had NO takedown defense.
I’m sorry, but the only other fighter I can think of that might match Anderson in all these categories is Machida.
HELLO!!! I think all you people are forgetting about YUSHIN OKAMI!. Yushin Okmai is the only guy that holds a victory over Anderson Silva by DQ in pride. Yushin Okami is the guy imo that can defeat Anderson Silva. They both have similar styles in Muay Thai Kickboxing, they both are 6′2” and 185lbs and they have the same record of 21 wins with 4 losses.
Okami has never been knocked out or submitted, but Anderson silva has been submitted by Ryo Chonnan(heel hook) and Daiju Takase(triangle Choke) and Carlos Newton came close to submitting Silva untill he got caught with a knee in pride. So my point is untill Anderson Silva defeats Yushin Okami, silva is not the best 185lb fighter. Besides didn’t Silva say he’d like to fight his clone….Okami is as close to anderson silva as you can get.
[quote comment=”341831″][quote comment=”341770″][quote comment=”341723″]No one is naming a LHW as the best pound-for-pound fighter so it seams silly to me that he should have to jump up a weight class to prove it. Silva recently said that he doesn’t plan on moving up and would consider dropping a class which would be excellent. GSP vs Silva would be f’n HUGE! These two seem to be the most highly regarded as the best, lets see it.[/quote]
Where did you hear that Silva was thinking about dropping in weight? Everything that I have seen, heard, and read indicate that he would move up in weight. He is a HUGE MW. At his current size, he would not be able to make 170. He walks around well over 200 lbs. So his natural progression would be to move up to LHW, just like ANDERSON SILVA has been saying.[/quote]
The only class Silva would move to would be LHW! If he is to fight a welterweight, it would be either Matt Hughes or GSP moving up in weight to fight him at 185 lb. It wont be GSP because he has yet to successfully defend a title so he still has a lot of work at welterweight ahead of him. After Hughes fights Serra, I think there is a great possibility of Hughes moving up to fight Anderson Silva in a farewell fight and then he will retire in the Octagon a la Couture did after his 2nd KO loss to Liddell.[/quote]
Ahhhh, it was said at the post fight press conference.
I REALLY can’t see Anderson dropping down to 170…
[quote comment=”342455″]HELLO!!! I think all you people are forgetting about YUSHIN OKAMI!. Yushin Okmai is the only guy that holds a victory over Anderson Silva by DQ in pride. Yushin Okami is the guy imo that can defeat Anderson Silva. They both have similar styles in Muay Thai Kickboxing, they both are 6′2” and 185lbs and they have the same record of 21 wins with 4 losses.
Okami has never been knocked out or submitted, but Anderson silva has been submitted by Ryo Chonnan(heel hook) and Daiju Takase(triangle Choke) and Carlos Newton came close to submitting Silva untill he got caught with a knee in pride. So my point is untill Anderson Silva defeats Yushin Okami, silva is not the best 185lb fighter. Besides didn’t Silva say he’d like to fight his clone….Okami is as close to anderson silva as you can get.[/quote]
WOW, did I just read that correctly. I agree 100% that Okami is the #1 contender. But you are saying that Okami is an exact clone of Anderson Silva??? WTF???
Okami’s mauy thai is pretty bad, he is strictly a wrestler that looks to GnP. He is arguably the most boring fighter in the MW division. He FINALLY finished a fight, but it was against Tanner.
That is the complete opposite of Anderson Silva.
The Spider is the most exciting fighter in any division. Anderson is not known for his wrestling. He is the best striker in MMA. Okami’s stand up blows. Silva’s BJJ is light years beyond Okami’s. If I was to name one weakness in Anderson Silva’s game, I would say it is his wrestling. If I was to name Okami’s one strength, I would say wrestling.
Other than their height, weight, and records, Okami and Anderson Silva are just about as opposite of fighters as can be.
I still can’t believe that I just read that…
I totally disagree with the argument that Okami matches up well against Silva. Please don’t judge Anderson Silva by his performance early in his career. Anderson used to be a poor man that worked at McDonald’s and trained half-heartedly. He was under a lot of stress and had injuries.
Talent is a very complex thing. Some individuals, like Silva, EXPLODE with talent once they are placed in the right situation. The Anderson Silva you see today would destroy the Anderson Silva of 5 years ago.
He’s even improved quite a bit in the last couple of years due to surgery on his knees, full time training, great nutrition rest, and reduced stress. During his fight with Lutter he could hardly defend a takedown because his knees were so bad. Compare that to what he did against Henderson. His takedown defense isn’t like Liddell, but it’s WAY better now.
I think Anderson Silva is the greatest fighter because he has something that only genetics can provide– incredible hand/eye coordination and reaction time. These athletic gifts are built in the brain, and very few fighters are close to him when it comes to these talents. Okami is not even in the same stratosphere.
Let’s do this mathematically.
Is there anyone else you guys can think of that gets as many overall points, p4p?
I would love to see others break down fighters by the categories below!
Please note that I am only judging these people against their current weight division!
ON A SCALE OF 1-10: I rarely give 10s.
ANDERSON SILVA
Speed- 9
Power- 7
Hand Striking technique-9
Size and reach for a middleweight- 8
Leg Striking technique-9
Hand/eye coordination- 9
Timing- 9
Reaction Time- 9
Brute Strength- 7
Flexibility- 8
Endurance- 8
Intelligence- 9
Current economic situation and mental health- 8
Guts- 8
Wrestling- 6
Jiu Jitsu- 8
TOTAL POINTS: 131
FEDOR EMELIANENKO IN HIS PRIME
I don’t know if Fedor is still at this level because he has recently faced relatively weak competition. One exception is that he did fight Matt Lindland recently and Matt is tough. (I don’t want to argue about the rope grabbing issue either.)
Speed- 8
Power- 7
Hand Striking technique-8
Size and reach for a heavyweight- 6
Leg Striking technique-7
Hand/eye coordination- 9
Timing- 9
Reaction Time- 9
Brute Strength- 7
Flexibility- 8
Endurance- 9
Intelligence- 9
Current economic situation and mental health- 9 (This dude is one cool cucumber.)
Guts- 8 (Again, this dude is one cool cucumber.)
Wrestling- 8
Jiu Jitsu- 8
TOTAL POINTS: 129
Lyoto Machida
Speed- 9
Power- 7
Hand Striking technique-9
Size and reach for a light heavyweight- 6
Leg Striking technique-9
Hand/eye coordination- 9
Timing- 9
Reaction Time- 9
Brute Strength- 6
Flexibility- 8
Endurance- 8
Intelligence- 9
Current economic situation and mental health- 8
Guts- 8
Wrestling- 7
Jiu Jitsu- 8
TOTAL POINTS: 129
BJ PENN
Speed- 8
Power- 9
Hand Striking technique-7
Size and reach for a lightweight- 8
Leg Striking technique-7
Hand/eye coordination- 9
Timing- 8
Reaction Time- 9
Brute Strength- 9
Flexibility- 10
Endurance- 6
Intelligence- 7
Current economic situation and mental health- 6
Guts- 6 (I’m sorry, but you have to train hard consistently to have true guts. Lazy talent is wasted talent.)
Wrestling- 8
Jiu Jitsu- 9
TOTAL POINTS: 126
GSP
Speed- 8
Power- 9
Hand Striking technique-7
Size and reach for a welterweight- 8
Leg Striking technique-8
Hand/eye coordination- 8
Timing- 8
Reaction Time- 8
Brute Strength- 9
Flexibility- 8
Endurance- 8
Intelligence- 7
Current economic situation and mental health- 6 (He sometimes gets distracted or loses focus.)
Guts- 7
Wrestling- 9 (This dude is amazingly talented when it comes to explosiveness.)
Jiu Jitsu- 8
TOTAL POINTS: 126
NUMBERS DON’T LIE!
[quote comment=”339792″]It really is betwen him and GSP. Had GSP not lost to Serra he would be considered a GOD. Arguably GSP has faced harder copetition than Silva.
Who knows who is the best P4P.. it’s a toss up imo.[/quote]
I don’t think GSP has ever faced anybody as tuff as Henderson.
Matt Hughes and Matt Serra are up there, but GSP is not on the same level as Silva.
[quote comment=”343823″]Let’s do this mathematically.
Is there anyone else you guys can think of that gets as many overall points, p4p?
I would love to see others break down fighters by the categories below!
Please note that I am only judging these people against their current weight division!
ON A SCALE OF 1-10: I rarely give 10s.
ANDERSON SILVA
Speed- 9
Power- 7
Hand Striking technique-9
Size and reach for a middleweight- 8
Leg Striking technique-9
Hand/eye coordination- 9
Timing- 9
Reaction Time- 9
Brute Strength- 7
Flexibility- 8
Endurance- 8
Intelligence- 9
Current economic situation and mental health- 8
Guts- 8
Wrestling- 6
Jiu Jitsu- 8
TOTAL POINTS: 131
FEDOR EMELIANENKO IN HIS PRIME
I don’t know if Fedor is still at this level because he has recently faced relatively weak competition. One exception is that he did fight Matt Lindland recently and Matt is tough. (I don’t want to argue about the rope grabbing issue either.)
Speed- 8
Power- 7
Hand Striking technique-8
Size and reach for a heavyweight- 6
Leg Striking technique-7
Hand/eye coordination- 9
Timing- 9
Reaction Time- 9
Brute Strength- 7
Flexibility- 8
Endurance- 9
Intelligence- 9
Current economic situation and mental health- 9 (This dude is one cool cucumber.)
Guts- 8 (Again, this dude is one cool cucumber.)
Wrestling- 8
Jiu Jitsu- 8
TOTAL POINTS: 129
Lyoto Machida
Speed- 9
Power- 7
Hand Striking technique-9
Size and reach for a light heavyweight- 6
Leg Striking technique-9
Hand/eye coordination- 9
Timing- 9
Reaction Time- 9
Brute Strength- 6
Flexibility- 8
Endurance- 8
Intelligence- 9
Current economic situation and mental health- 8
Guts- 8
Wrestling- 7
Jiu Jitsu- 8
TOTAL POINTS: 129
BJ PENN
Speed- 8
Power- 9
Hand Striking technique-7
Size and reach for a lightweight- 8
Leg Striking technique-7
Hand/eye coordination- 9
Timing- 8
Reaction Time- 9
Brute Strength- 9
Flexibility- 10
Endurance- 6
Intelligence- 7
Current economic situation and mental health- 6
Guts- 6 (I’m sorry, but you have to train hard consistently to have true guts. Lazy talent is wasted talent.)
Wrestling- 8
Jiu Jitsu- 9
TOTAL POINTS: 126
GSP
Speed- 8
Power- 9
Hand Striking technique-7
Size and reach for a welterweight- 8
Leg Striking technique-8
Hand/eye coordination- 8
Timing- 8
Reaction Time- 8
Brute Strength- 9
Flexibility- 8
Endurance- 8
Intelligence- 7
Current economic situation and mental health- 6 (He sometimes gets distracted or loses focus.)
Guts- 7
Wrestling- 9 (This dude is amazingly talented when it comes to explosiveness.)
Jiu Jitsu- 8
TOTAL POINTS: 126
NUMBERS DON’T LIE![/quote]
Yeah, but your numbers are made up by yourself. They are not facts. And plus, fighters “on paper” mean nothing. For example, can you have used your little rating analysis to come up with the fact that Serra was going to beat GSP?
“I rate myself a 10 and rate you a 3. That means that I am better than you. Numbers don’t lie.” That just makes ZERO sense.
Arbitrary numbers may not make sense, but I’m referring to examined numbers!
I didn’t pull my numbers out of thin air, I studied the fighters closely.
I agree, my numbers are partially subjective, but they aren’t TOTALLY subjective like the numbers you put together.
Go ahead and rate the fighters using my scale, or your own, but do it fairly and after watching fights in slow motion!
Trust me, dude, Anderson Silva deserves every point I gave him. I was brutal in evaluating him.
Also, Regarding Serra and GSP:
Respectfully, I think you are missing one key point. My scale doesn’t imply that a fighter will always win. It’s like probabilities. I can win the lottery, but my chances aren’t real good.
9 times out of 10 GSP beats Serra. Let’s see if I’m right in the next fight.
By the way, what is a “fact” in martial arts, anyhow? Point systems are used for scoring close fights, so there is ALWAYS some subjectivity involved.
We don’t need pure “facts”. We need carefully and logically reasoned “opinions”.
ANDERSON SILVA ALL THE PPL IN WEB LAND ANDERSON SILVA WILL KILL Georges St. Pierre,Rampage Jackson ,Fedor Emelianenko PUT 235 Silva it over Fedor is good fighter but 235 sila over.NOW CUNG LEE AND SILVA WILL BE THE FIGHT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE NEXT. (Anderson Silva wins Via TKO)
Anderson is great, he’s an awsome fighter… but he’d KILL St. Pierre, huh? Man, he didn’t KILL that chump Travis Lutter. In fact, Lutter took him down what, 2-3 times? In fact, Franklin, and Henderson took him down, didn’t they? In fact, anyone who goes for a takedown on him gets it, don’t they? Don’t get me wrong, Anderson Silva is my second favorite fighter in the world, and he and GSP are going back and forth for 1st and 2nd p4p in my mind. I’m just saying, when you look at qualifications for this p4p title, look at strengths, weaknesses, AND also the quality of the opponents the fighter has faced. GSP STARTED vs Karo at his best, Silva fought Leben… Leben? Come on. Henderson LAID on top of him (yawn) and Nate played no offence. Franklin, now that’s a big fish. Now how many big fish does GSP have in the boat? Go look.
GSP or Anderson Silva.
Anderson Silva should definitely be consider when mentioning the best pound for pound mma fighter in the world, and yes GSP is great too but not the best pound for pound fighter. Another fighter worth mentioning is BJ Penn, this guy actually fought and won title in different weight classes, and he beat some of the best. But the fighter I consider the best pound for pound fighter is Urijah Faber, don’t know who that is? He is the reigning WEC featherweight champion. This guy is showing supreme dominance in the ring; defending his belt 9 times with his most recent win over Jens Pulver. He has a record of 21-1 with his only lost to Tyson Griffin in his 9th fight. So he is riding a 12 fight winning streak. This guy deserve more credit than he is getting. Don’t count him out just because he is not in the UFC he is great and should mentioned when talking about the best.
Fedor Fedor Fedor.. The REAL p4p Champ…. Silva’s way overblown.. He’s never beaten anybody of real talent.. The UFC just throws him easy opponents to steamroll to bring in the ratings.
Okay lets look at it. His first fight was aginst Chris Leben and murdered him in like 40 second. He fought Rich Franklin and beat him down not once but twice. He fought Travis Lutter a guy who is one best in submision on the ground and made him tapout. He destroyed Nate M. in the 1st round. He fought Dan Henderson a guy who KO W.Silva in pride and went the All 5 rounds with Rampage and made him tapout in the 2nd round. He fought Patrick Cotte and beat him down. Oh wha i forgot he went all the way up to 205 and fought James Irvin and KO him in the 1st round.