Comments on: UFC 84 poster for ‘Ill Will’ on May 24 in Las Vegas http://mmamania.com/2008/02/28/ufc-84-poster-for-ill-will-on-may-24-in-las-vegas/ UFC news, event schedules, fight analysis, Octagon predictions, UFC fighters and MMA thoughts Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:45:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: ( ( Adam G ) ) http://mmamania.com/2008/02/28/ufc-84-poster-for-ill-will-on-may-24-in-las-vegas/#comment-361090 ( ( Adam G ) ) Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:49:37 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/28/ufc-84-poster-for-ill-will-on-may-24-in-las-vegas/#comment-361090 I disagree, cardios no longer a factor in BJ Penns life. And it not his fault that no one can get past the 2nd round to prove it. Oh, wait, maybe it is his fault, digress . . . Penn by RNC in the 3rd. I disagree, cardios no longer a factor in BJ Penns life. And it not his fault that no one can get past the 2nd round to prove it. Oh, wait, maybe it is his fault, digress . . . Penn by RNC in the 3rd.

]]> By: damon http://mmamania.com/2008/02/28/ufc-84-poster-for-ill-will-on-may-24-in-las-vegas/#comment-359426 damon Wed, 12 Mar 2008 01:47:18 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/28/ufc-84-poster-for-ill-will-on-may-24-in-las-vegas/#comment-359426 bj vs. sherk fight he might get caught with a submisson but then agin bj has poor cardio so i can see sherk wining by uniomus tito will ground and pound wandy will knee keith in the face any one agree bj vs. sherk fight he might get caught with a submisson but then agin bj has poor cardio so i can see sherk wining by uniomus

tito will ground and pound

wandy will knee keith in the face

any one agree

]]> By: damon http://mmamania.com/2008/02/28/ufc-84-poster-for-ill-will-on-may-24-in-las-vegas/#comment-359419 damon Wed, 12 Mar 2008 01:45:35 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/28/ufc-84-poster-for-ill-will-on-may-24-in-las-vegas/#comment-359419 [quote comment="332535"]SHERK IS GOING 2 SMASH BJ's FAT HEAD IN TITO WILL GROUND AND POUND OUT MACHIDA SILVA WILL SPARK KEITH[/quote] i agree with all that but the bj vs. sherk fight he might get caught with a submisson but then agin bj has poor cardio so i can see sherk wining by uniomus [quote comment=”332535″]SHERK IS GOING 2 SMASH BJ’s FAT HEAD IN

TITO WILL GROUND AND POUND OUT MACHIDA

SILVA WILL SPARK KEITH[/quote]

i agree with all that but the bj vs. sherk fight he might get caught with a submisson but then agin bj has poor cardio so i can see sherk wining by uniomus

]]> By: ( ( Adam G ) ) http://mmamania.com/2008/02/28/ufc-84-poster-for-ill-will-on-may-24-in-las-vegas/#comment-347808 ( ( Adam G ) ) Thu, 06 Mar 2008 08:38:39 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/28/ufc-84-poster-for-ill-will-on-may-24-in-las-vegas/#comment-347808 [quote comment="347198"][quote comment="341611"]Sherk is only 5'6, Penn is 5'9. Has Penn ever faught anyone that short? How tall are Hughes, Pulver, Stevenson, Uno and Gomi??? I think sherks the shortest except for maybe Uno . . . Sherks gonna look like a rag doll, lamb to slaughter![/quote] He fought Serra. I'm Pretty sure Serra is about the same height. Penn has superior striking,Bjj,and takedown defense. Sherk has the strength and wrestling advantage.Bj F'd up GSP's face before he got tired. Not many people can do that. Bj is constanly working on his cardio. Myself Coming from hilo hawaii as well, I know this for a fact. This is an all around bad fight for Sherk. Bj penn is in shape ladies and gentlemen. No excuses for this fight.[/quote] And against GSP was the old BJ, The new Penn drops 'em in 2 from those same punches. Sherks gonna look like a ragdoll and i hope when he tries to give BJ his back BJ doesnt take it an just keeps hitting him but not enough for the ref to stop it, like what he did to Jans and somewhat Stevenson. But with sherk hell, when he gives up the back to Penn, Penn should get up off of him and make him stand back up and take more punishment 'til he throws in the towell or it goes to a unanimous bloody decision but not to let him out easy no matter what!!! Lamb To Slaughter! "its just the wrong time to fight BJ Penn" Make an example of 'em BJ! Theres a reason why no one comes back for seconds win or lose, Jans had nuts for being the first to fight BJ in his new found life. And hes the one with the least reason to ever except a 2nd bout with BJ. Gomi should want one the worst simply to prove his #1 ranking status and should be stoked that BJ came all the way back down to 155lbs (what long time BJ Penn fan can believe it, its almost funny to see him kicking *ss after all these years of backing him through random failures that should never had happened) but Gomi's he's in no rush LoL GSP As well, to answer any Q's about who won that first fight, but i dont see him saying anything, Penn had to come back for Hughes to prove it wasnt a fluke (Matt would have retired happily with never fighting Penn a 2nd time) (You dont see him looking for Dennis Hallman ya know) Intstead Penn will have to seek them out, Hughes (III), GSP II & III, Machida II, Silva I II, (I only say Silva I and II because when Penn gets the first two theres no reason for a III) [quote comment=”347198″][quote comment=”341611″]Sherk is only 5′6, Penn is 5′9. Has Penn ever faught anyone that short? How tall are Hughes, Pulver, Stevenson, Uno and Gomi??? I think sherks the shortest except for maybe Uno . . . Sherks gonna look like a rag doll, lamb to slaughter![/quote]

He fought Serra. I’m Pretty sure Serra is about the same height. Penn has superior striking,Bjj,and takedown defense. Sherk has the strength and wrestling advantage.Bj F’d up GSP’s face before he got tired. Not many people can do that. Bj is constanly working on his cardio. Myself Coming from hilo hawaii as well, I know this for a fact. This is an all around bad fight for Sherk. Bj penn is in shape ladies and gentlemen. No excuses for this fight.[/quote]
And against GSP was the old BJ, The new Penn drops ‘em in 2 from those same punches. Sherks gonna look like a ragdoll and i hope when he tries to give BJ his back BJ doesnt take it an just keeps hitting him but not enough for the ref to stop it, like what he did to Jans and somewhat Stevenson. But with sherk hell, when he gives up the back to Penn, Penn should get up off of him and make him stand back up and take more punishment ’til he throws in the towell or it goes to a unanimous bloody decision but not to let him out easy no matter what!!! Lamb To Slaughter! “its just the wrong time to fight BJ Penn” Make an example of ‘em BJ! Theres a reason why no one comes back for seconds win or lose, Jans had nuts for being the first to fight BJ in his new found life. And hes the one with the least reason to ever except a 2nd bout with BJ. Gomi should want one the worst simply to prove his #1 ranking status and should be stoked that BJ came all the way back down to 155lbs (what long time BJ Penn fan can believe it, its almost funny to see him kicking *ss after all these years of backing him through random failures that should never had happened) but Gomi’s he’s in no rush LoL GSP As well, to answer any Q’s about who won that first fight, but i dont see him saying anything, Penn had to come back for Hughes to prove it wasnt a fluke (Matt would have retired happily with never fighting Penn a 2nd time) (You dont see him looking for Dennis Hallman ya know) Intstead Penn will have to seek them out, Hughes (III), GSP II & III, Machida II, Silva I II, (I only say Silva I and II because when Penn gets the first two theres no reason for a III)

]]> By: JiujitsuFreak http://mmamania.com/2008/02/28/ufc-84-poster-for-ill-will-on-may-24-in-las-vegas/#comment-347198 JiujitsuFreak Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:39:11 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/28/ufc-84-poster-for-ill-will-on-may-24-in-las-vegas/#comment-347198 [quote comment="341611"]Sherk is only 5'6, Penn is 5'9. Has Penn ever faught anyone that short? How tall are Hughes, Pulver, Stevenson, Uno and Gomi??? I think sherks the shortest except for maybe Uno . . . Sherks gonna look like a rag doll, lamb to slaughter![/quote] He fought Serra. I'm Pretty sure Serra is about the same height. Penn has superior striking,Bjj,and takedown defense. Sherk has the strength and wrestling advantage.Bj F'd up GSP's face before he got tired. Not many people can do that. Bj is constanly working on his cardio. Myself Coming from hilo hawaii as well, I know this for a fact. This is an all around bad fight for Sherk. Bj penn is in shape ladies and gentlemen. No excuses for this fight. [quote comment=”341611″]Sherk is only 5′6, Penn is 5′9. Has Penn ever faught anyone that short? How tall are Hughes, Pulver, Stevenson, Uno and Gomi??? I think sherks the shortest except for maybe Uno . . . Sherks gonna look like a rag doll, lamb to slaughter![/quote]

He fought Serra. I’m Pretty sure Serra is about the same height. Penn has superior striking,Bjj,and takedown defense. Sherk has the strength and wrestling advantage.Bj F’d up GSP’s face before he got tired. Not many people can do that. Bj is constanly working on his cardio. Myself Coming from hilo hawaii as well, I know this for a fact. This is an all around bad fight for Sherk. Bj penn is in shape ladies and gentlemen. No excuses for this fight.

]]> By: Mark http://mmamania.com/2008/02/28/ufc-84-poster-for-ill-will-on-may-24-in-las-vegas/#comment-346185 Mark Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:39:48 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/28/ufc-84-poster-for-ill-will-on-may-24-in-las-vegas/#comment-346185 Ill will is a pretty good name since Dana hates Tito and it will be Tito's last fight in the UFC. Ill will is a pretty good name since Dana hates Tito and it will be Tito’s last fight in the UFC.

]]> By: ( ( Adam G ) ) http://mmamania.com/2008/02/28/ufc-84-poster-for-ill-will-on-may-24-in-las-vegas/#comment-341611 ( ( Adam G ) ) Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:54:52 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/28/ufc-84-poster-for-ill-will-on-may-24-in-las-vegas/#comment-341611 Sherk is only 5'6, Penn is 5'9. Has Penn ever faught anyone that short? How tall are Hughes, Pulver, Stevenson, Uno and Gomi??? I think sherks the shortest except for maybe Uno . . . Sherks gonna look like a rag doll, lamb to slaughter! Sherk is only 5′6, Penn is 5′9. Has Penn ever faught anyone that short? How tall are Hughes, Pulver, Stevenson, Uno and Gomi??? I think sherks the shortest except for maybe Uno . . . Sherks gonna look like a rag doll, lamb to slaughter!

]]> By: The Anomaly http://mmamania.com/2008/02/28/ufc-84-poster-for-ill-will-on-may-24-in-las-vegas/#comment-335469 The Anomaly Sat, 01 Mar 2008 01:45:16 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/28/ufc-84-poster-for-ill-will-on-may-24-in-las-vegas/#comment-335469 [quote comment="334819"][quote comment="333597"][quote comment="332580"]personally i would like to see penn win this fight but i dont see it happening. Sherk was able to beat franca a bjj black belt without even coming to close to getting submitted and yea franca had him in a couple of chokes but i dont think anybody is going to choke out sherk his neck is huuuuuggggeee. I think sherk will be able to take penn down and control him for five rounds and possibly finish him if penn gases which is likely.[/quote] That's about how I see it going too. Franca was juiced also,so he was probably stronger than BJ. I can see Penn trying for many subs and Sherk will just power out.[/quote] Trust me the difference between Franca's BJJ and BJs BJJ is night and day. Don't get me wrong Franca has some great BJJ but not all black belts are equal. BJ has 4 arms for crying out loud. Plus he has much much better take down defense than Franca. I mean GSP had trouble taking BJ down and he took Koz, Matt Hughes, and Serk down at will so that says a lot about BJs take down defense.[/quote] Trigg said he didn't try to choke out Hughes in there second fight cuz it felt like he was grabbing a horse neck, that was after Penn choked hughes dizzy and won the championship. If you'r BJJ is good enough, you can choke anybody, like GSP4prez already said, all black belts in BJJ are no where near the same, some our white belts compared to others, and Sherk can be choked no problem. And yeah Penn's take down defense is on par with GSP's, so Sherk better be ready for that. I don't, however, see Penn taking Sherk down, unless it's cuz he knocks him down with some punches. [quote comment=”334819″][quote comment=”333597″][quote comment=”332580″]personally i would like to see penn win this fight but i dont see it happening. Sherk was able to beat franca a bjj black belt without even coming to close to getting submitted and yea franca had him in a couple of chokes but i dont think anybody is going to choke out sherk his neck is huuuuuggggeee. I think sherk will be able to take penn down and control him for five rounds and possibly finish him if penn gases which is likely.[/quote]
That’s about how I see it going too. Franca was juiced also,so he was probably stronger than BJ. I can see Penn trying for many subs and Sherk will just power out.[/quote]
Trust me the difference between Franca’s BJJ and BJs BJJ is night and day. Don’t get me wrong Franca has some great BJJ but not all black belts are equal. BJ has 4 arms for crying out loud. Plus he has much much better take down defense than Franca. I mean GSP had trouble taking BJ down and he took Koz, Matt Hughes, and Serk down at will so that says a lot about BJs take down defense.[/quote]
Trigg said he didn’t try to choke out Hughes in there second fight cuz it felt like he was grabbing a horse neck, that was after Penn choked hughes dizzy and won the championship. If you’r BJJ is good enough, you can choke anybody, like GSP4prez already said, all black belts in BJJ are no where near the same, some our white belts compared to others, and Sherk can be choked no problem.

And yeah Penn’s take down defense is on par with GSP’s, so Sherk better be ready for that.
I don’t, however, see Penn taking Sherk down, unless it’s cuz he knocks him down with some punches.

]]> By: GSP4Prez http://mmamania.com/2008/02/28/ufc-84-poster-for-ill-will-on-may-24-in-las-vegas/#comment-334819 GSP4Prez Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:57:55 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/28/ufc-84-poster-for-ill-will-on-may-24-in-las-vegas/#comment-334819 [quote comment="333597"][quote comment="332580"]personally i would like to see penn win this fight but i dont see it happening. Sherk was able to beat franca a bjj black belt without even coming to close to getting submitted and yea franca had him in a couple of chokes but i dont think anybody is going to choke out sherk his neck is huuuuuggggeee. I think sherk will be able to take penn down and control him for five rounds and possibly finish him if penn gases which is likely.[/quote] That's about how I see it going too. Franca was juiced also,so he was probably stronger than BJ. I can see Penn trying for many subs and Sherk will just power out.[/quote] Trust me the difference between Franca's BJJ and BJs BJJ is night and day. Don't get me wrong Franca has some great BJJ but not all black belts are equal. BJ has 4 arms for crying out loud. Plus he has much much better take down defense than Franca. I mean GSP had trouble taking BJ down and he took Koz, Matt Hughes, and Serk down at will so that says a lot about BJs take down defense. [quote comment=”333597″][quote comment=”332580″]personally i would like to see penn win this fight but i dont see it happening. Sherk was able to beat franca a bjj black belt without even coming to close to getting submitted and yea franca had him in a couple of chokes but i dont think anybody is going to choke out sherk his neck is huuuuuggggeee. I think sherk will be able to take penn down and control him for five rounds and possibly finish him if penn gases which is likely.[/quote]
That’s about how I see it going too. Franca was juiced also,so he was probably stronger than BJ. I can see Penn trying for many subs and Sherk will just power out.[/quote]
Trust me the difference between Franca’s BJJ and BJs BJJ is night and day. Don’t get me wrong Franca has some great BJJ but not all black belts are equal. BJ has 4 arms for crying out loud. Plus he has much much better take down defense than Franca. I mean GSP had trouble taking BJ down and he took Koz, Matt Hughes, and Serk down at will so that says a lot about BJs take down defense.

]]> By: GSP4Prez http://mmamania.com/2008/02/28/ufc-84-poster-for-ill-will-on-may-24-in-las-vegas/#comment-334816 GSP4Prez Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:54:59 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/28/ufc-84-poster-for-ill-will-on-may-24-in-las-vegas/#comment-334816 [quote comment="333694"][quote comment="333619"][quote comment="332711"][quote comment="332678"][quote comment="332535"]SHERK IS GOING 2 SMASH BJ's FAT HEAD IN TITO WILL GROUND AND POUND OUT MACHIDA SILVA WILL SPARK KEITH[/quote] Well i guess you got the silva part right...[/quote] Yea, Sherk is gonna smash BJ's head in, just like Hughes, GSP, Pulver, Stevenson, Gomi, and Renzo did, oh wait BJ smashed all their heads in, oooops . . . And all of them with the exception of Pulve/Stevenson have or would slaughter Sherk. I wish people that throw this kind of 1 liner crap predictions up on the orum would back it with some facts/reasoning. Probably dont because they know how rediculous these statements are. Everyone thinks Silva will win everytime he fights so way to be original there! LoL![/quote] Last I saw Hughes was POUNDING Penns head into a pancake. BJ LOST to GSP and once to Pulver. Bj COULDN'T deal with the strength of the last 2 guys he fought that were strong wrestlers like Sherk and he LOST. How about them FACTS.[/quote] SO much wrong with you'r statement Gord, I don't even know where to begin[/quote] Well first off Hughes and GSP were much much bigger than Penn and Sherk isn't going to have this advantage. But if you watch those two fights Penn was dominating Hughes before he broke his rib and gave GSP one of the closest fights of his career. BJ Penn will outstrike Sherk and his BJJ is on another level from anyone else in the lightweigh or weilterweight division for that matter. Sherk will be in trouble anywhere this fight goes. Just watch GSP vs Sean Serk if you wanna see a preview of how this fight will go. [quote comment=”333694″][quote comment=”333619″][quote comment=”332711″][quote comment=”332678″][quote comment=”332535″]SHERK IS GOING 2 SMASH BJ’s FAT HEAD IN

TITO WILL GROUND AND POUND OUT MACHIDA

SILVA WILL SPARK KEITH[/quote]

Well i guess you got the silva part right…[/quote]
Yea, Sherk is gonna smash BJ’s head in, just like Hughes, GSP, Pulver, Stevenson, Gomi, and Renzo did, oh wait BJ smashed all their heads in, oooops . . . And all of them with the exception of Pulve/Stevenson have or would slaughter Sherk. I wish people that throw this kind of 1 liner crap predictions up on the orum would back it with some facts/reasoning. Probably dont because they know how rediculous these statements are. Everyone thinks Silva will win everytime he fights so way to be original there! LoL![/quote]
Last I saw Hughes was POUNDING Penns head into a pancake. BJ LOST to GSP and once to Pulver. Bj COULDN’T deal with the strength of the last 2 guys he fought that were strong wrestlers like Sherk and he LOST. How about them FACTS.[/quote]
SO much wrong with you’r statement Gord, I don’t even know where to begin[/quote]
Well first off Hughes and GSP were much much bigger than Penn and Sherk isn’t going to have this advantage. But if you watch those two fights Penn was dominating Hughes before he broke his rib and gave GSP one of the closest fights of his career. BJ Penn will outstrike Sherk and his BJJ is on another level from anyone else in the lightweigh or weilterweight division for that matter. Sherk will be in trouble anywhere this fight goes. Just watch GSP vs Sean Serk if you wanna see a preview of how this fight will go.

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