It’s on like Donkey Kong:
Note that the light heavyweight match ups between Tito Ortiz vs. Lyoto Machida, as well as Wanderlei Silva vs. Keith Jardine, are also OFFICIAL.
Yowzah …
For the most recent rumored UFC 84 fight card click here.
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I can’t wait for BJ to bang Sherk out…
UFC 84 is insane. Can’t wait.
The Muscle Shark is going to win bar none.
This is the weakest name that I have ever heard for a UFC event. This makes Validation look good.
[quote comment="332333"]UFC 84 is insane. Can’t wait.[/quote]
Is that you Rogan? Just teasin!
Ill will is definitely a weak name for this event but whatever. The card is absolutely sick and arguably the best one this year since every main card fight has some sort of major implications on each division…especially at LHW where Machida, Ortiz, Jardine, Wandy, Thiago, Soko, and Rashad all are in the top 10-15 we’ll say for the division. Huge shake ups after this event cause some of the winners will face each other for a possible #1 contenders match after the Griffin/Rampage fight. There are only two things I hope that happen here…Tito loses and he leaves the UFC for good on a losing note and Rashad wins cause I’m one of the few Rashad fans.
[quote comment="332337"]The Muscle Shark is going to win bar none.
This is the weakest name that I have ever heard for a UFC event. This makes Validation look good.[/quote]
Ill Will? Whats it going to feature a NAS concert?
I think it should be called UFC 84: Roid Redemption!!!
[quote comment="332337"]The Muscle Shark is going to win bar none.
This is the weakest name that I have ever heard for a UFC event. This makes Validation look good.[/quote]
I can only agree 50% with your comments..
I think the name is pretty lame aswell..unless it has some meaning to it that I dont know of…
Sherk will cause no problems for BJ…..easy win for BJ.
…or UFC 84: Dead or Aliive (After BJ’s comments when he beat Joe Daddy)
Damn sick card though, not sure how good the Tito fight will be but being his last UFC fight it will be one to watch wither way. Can’t wait to see Thiago SMASH Rashad too!!
[quote comment="332351"]I think it should be called UFC 84: Roid Redemption!!![/quote]
haha.LOL
Strongly agreed..
here are some notable names for UFC 84 that is better than ILL WILL.
UFC 84: Shark Attack
UFC 84: Knockout.. I mean.. Submission
They really should of called it Sherk vs. Penn.
[quote comment="332346"]Ill will is definitely a weak name for this event but whatever. The card is absolutely sick and arguably the best one this year since every main card fight has some sort of major implications on each division…especially at LHW where Machida, Ortiz, Jardine, Wandy, Thiago, Soko, and Rashad all are in the top 10-15 we’ll say for the division. Huge shake ups after this event cause some of the winners will face each other for a possible #1 contenders match after the Griffin/Rampage fight. There are only two things I hope that happen here…Tito loses and he leaves the UFC for good on a losing note and Rashad wins cause I’m one of the few Rashad fans.[/quote]
I am a Rashad fan as well, but I see his winning streak coming to a halt against Tiago. Rashad is probably the faster striker but Tiago is more Brutal and has one hell of a chin. Rashad wrestling might not work for him because taking down Tiago may not be such a good idea. Either way, I am very much looking forward to this fight.
[quote comment="332363"]…or UFC 84: Dead or Aliive (After BJ’s comments when he beat Joe Daddy)[/quote]
LOL. UFC 84: Sean Sherk You’re Dead!
They should have gone with:
UFC 84: The loser gets teabagged.
[quote comment="332376"][quote comment="332346"]Ill will is definitely a weak name for this event but whatever. The card is absolutely sick and arguably the best one this year since every main card fight has some sort of major implications on each division…especially at LHW where Machida, Ortiz, Jardine, Wandy, Thiago, Soko, and Rashad all are in the top 10-15 we’ll say for the division. Huge shake ups after this event cause some of the winners will face each other for a possible #1 contenders match after the Griffin/Rampage fight. There are only two things I hope that happen here…Tito loses and he leaves the UFC for good on a losing note and Rashad wins cause I’m one of the few Rashad fans.[/quote]
I am a Rashad fan as well, but I see his winning streak coming to a halt against Tiago. Rashad is probably the faster striker but Tiago is more Brutal and has one hell of a chin. Rashad wrestling might not work for him because taking down Tiago may not be such a good idea. Either way, I am very much looking forward to this fight.[/quote]
I agree…this will be Rashad’s biggest test to date and if he passes…then it’ll be a huge name fight for him next for a possible #1 contenders match. I like Rashad but I’m not going to be disappointed if he loses cause Thiago is good first of all but I think a loss would benefit Rashad just as much as a win would. I think he would learn a lot from a loss and learn to let himself go in fights more often not having to worry about the undefeated record anymore.
You’re right…I think Rashad’s wrestling is a double edged sword in this fight. Thiago suppsoedly has some good BJJ but I’ve never seen it. The reason you don’t see that too often is because he has those heavy hands. Rashad is quicker with the punches and I think if he can learn to kick legs like Jardine…that would help out a lot. Rashad might have an edge in the strength department and can hopefully pick him up like Tito and slam him. Rashad needs to really work on the ground and pound if he wants to avoid submission attempts from Silva. They both have solid chins so it should be a war.
[quote comment="332387"]They should have gone with:
UFC 84: The loser gets teabagged.[/quote]
HAHAHAH LMAO… Yes mate!
UFC 84: Teabag Choke
Bj Penn third round submission
Wanderlie late first TKO
Machida third round stopage
I wonder, had BJ not Called out Sherk at UFC80 and Sherk not responded to him at UFC80 (All Live), would this UFC still have the same name??? Granted there was a bit of talking betwwen the two in the media before that night at UFC80 “Sherk Ya dead” but everyone had an opinion about Sherks suspension especially after he was found guilty not just BJ Penn, people just value his opinion more so it got more media love. And MMArtists talk sh*t all the time before a fight ya know, Live at events and in the Media . . . I guess the question i pose to the rest of my forum friends is what would you rename this UFC?
Ive heard “UFC84: Penn, Sherk And A Bunch Of Lightheavy-Weights” and “UFC84: Sherk Ya Dead” The Sherk Ya Dead would be my pick, sounds accurate LoL! What names you guys got . . .
i hope randy does fight big nog in august u know the event will be in vegas, either that fight or i see maybe the light heavy rampage vs forrest fight happening there, wish i could go to this event but i have to wait till august
[quote comment="332409"][quote comment="332387"]They should have gone with:
UFC 84: The loser gets teabagged.[/quote]
HAHAHAH LMAO… Yes mate!
UFC 84: Teabag Choke[/quote]
Why, is that what you want to see? If that’s truely the case, I’d recommend you rent some gay porn for $5 instead of paying $45 to see the fights.
As for the card, Ortiz/Machida, Silva/Jardine, and Evan/Silva are all TOP NOTCH fights where any one of them could have been a headlinging fight along with a main event (meaning, the 2nd biggest fight on the card, and the one that we’d see featured during the second half of UFC Countdown). Instead, we get treated to all 3 of them in one night with Penn/Sherk as the main event. That is a solid main card!!!
mania i tried to post this a coupled days back about the name of the event. but you removed it!! what gives!?!
[quote comment="332466"]mania i tried to post this a coupled days back about the name of the event. but you removed it!! what gives!?![/quote]
Don’t know. Perhaps it got trapped in a junk mail filter. It certainly would not have been moderated if that’s all it contained. Apologies.
[quote comment="332399"][quote comment="332376"][quote comment="332346"]Ill will is definitely a weak name for this event but whatever. The card is absolutely sick and arguably the best one this year since every main card fight has some sort of major implications on each division…especially at LHW where Machida, Ortiz, Jardine, Wandy, Thiago, Soko, and Rashad all are in the top 10-15 we’ll say for the division. Huge shake ups after this event cause some of the winners will face each other for a possible #1 contenders match after the Griffin/Rampage fight. There are only two things I hope that happen here…Tito loses and he leaves the UFC for good on a losing note and Rashad wins cause I’m one of the few Rashad fans.[/quote]
I am a Rashad fan as well, but I see his winning streak coming to a halt against Tiago. Rashad is probably the faster striker but Tiago is more Brutal and has one hell of a chin. Rashad wrestling might not work for him because taking down Tiago may not be such a good idea. Either way, I am very much looking forward to this fight.[/quote]
I agree…this will be Rashad’s biggest test to date and if he passes…then it’ll be a huge name fight for him next for a possible #1 contenders match. I like Rashad but I’m not going to be disappointed if he loses cause Thiago is good first of all but I think a loss would benefit Rashad just as much as a win would. I think he would learn a lot from a loss and learn to let himself go in fights more often not having to worry about the undefeated record anymore.
You’re right…I think Rashad’s wrestling is a double edged sword in this fight. Thiago suppsoedly has some good BJJ but I’ve never seen it. The reason you don’t see that too often is because he has those heavy hands. Rashad is quicker with the punches and I think if he can learn to kick legs like Jardine…that would help out a lot. Rashad might have an edge in the strength department and can hopefully pick him up like Tito and slam him. Rashad needs to really work on the ground and pound if he wants to avoid submission attempts from Silva. They both have solid chins so it should be a war.[/quote]
I cant argue with you at all! great points especially your 1st paragraph about how a loss may actually benefit Rashad.
No matter what it should be very entertaining and interesting to say the least. This will probably be the most I have ever looked forward to a Rashad fight!
[quote comment="332464"][quote comment="332409"][quote comment="332387"]They should have gone with:
UFC 84: The loser gets teabagged.[/quote]
HAHAHAH LMAO… Yes mate!
UFC 84: Teabag Choke[/quote]
Why, is that what you want to see? If that’s truely the case, I’d recommend you rent some gay porn for $5 instead of paying $45 to see the fights.
As for the card, Ortiz/Machida, Silva/Jardine, and Evan/Silva are all TOP NOTCH fights where any one of them could have been a headlinging fight along with a main event (meaning, the 2nd biggest fight on the card, and the one that we’d see featured during the second half of UFC Countdown). Instead, we get treated to all 3 of them in one night with Penn/Sherk as the main event. That is a solid main card!!![/quote]
Hell Yeah! Undercard is somewhat intruiging as well. Rusimar is supposed to be a good addition to the UFC. I know nothing about him but I am curious. The new 23 year old croation ju jitsu fighter makes his debut. As well as WAR MACHINE back in action. very curious to find out who is opponent will be.
Great card!
SHERK IS GOING 2 SMASH BJ’s FAT HEAD IN
TITO WILL GROUND AND POUND OUT MACHIDA
SILVA WILL SPARK KEITH
tito will win and at the end will knock out dana white! bj will win silva will win and rashad will win cant wait
I hope wanderlei wins. I am one of his biggest fans but I just have a bad feeling about this fight. I just think this is a bad fight style wise for wandi. I would like to see him use more knees from the clinch and maybe if he does he has a chance to win this fight but if he just stands and tries to bang it out with Jardine like he did with chuck I don’t see him winning the fight. You’re my boy Wandi, prove me wrong!
personally i would like to see penn win this fight but i dont see it happening. Sherk was able to beat franca a bjj black belt without even coming to close to getting submitted and yea franca had him in a couple of chokes but i dont think anybody is going to choke out sherk his neck is huuuuuggggeee. I think sherk will be able to take penn down and control him for five rounds and possibly finish him if penn gases which is likely.
What’s with the “blood” coming out of Sherk’s left elbow ? How tasteless is this poster it cannot be UFC approved looks doctored to me. Probably to insinuate that Sherk is a “juicer” complete nonsense. Anyway the title of UFC 84 is kind of pathetic “Ill Will” ? I mean it is so 2002 when the UFC wasn’t a glimmer in mainstream.
The “Battle on the Boardwalk” (Atlantic City) sounds better
[quote comment="332535"]SHERK IS GOING 2 SMASH BJ’s FAT HEAD IN
TITO WILL GROUND AND POUND OUT MACHIDA
SILVA WILL SPARK KEITH[/quote]
Well i guess you got the silva part right…
[quote comment="332678"][quote comment="332535"]SHERK IS GOING 2 SMASH BJ’s FAT HEAD IN
TITO WILL GROUND AND POUND OUT MACHIDA
SILVA WILL SPARK KEITH[/quote]
Well i guess you got the silva part right…[/quote]
ONLY got the Silva part right! Sherk is going to get completley out-classed! Tito will be getting Tagged up chasing Machida around the octagon!
[quote comment="332678"][quote comment="332535"]SHERK IS GOING 2 SMASH BJ’s FAT HEAD IN
TITO WILL GROUND AND POUND OUT MACHIDA
SILVA WILL SPARK KEITH[/quote]
Well i guess you got the silva part right…[/quote]
Yea, Sherk is gonna smash BJ’s head in, just like Hughes, GSP, Pulver, Stevenson, Gomi, and Renzo did, oh wait BJ smashed all their heads in, oooops . . . And all of them with the exception of Pulve/Stevenson have or would slaughter Sherk. I wish people that throw this kind of 1 liner crap predictions up on the orum would back it with some facts/reasoning. Probably dont because they know how rediculous these statements are. Everyone thinks Silva will win everytime he fights so way to be original there! LoL!
UFC 84….Roid Rage Revenge
the card has a couple good fights on the main card,but the undercard sucks fight night in april will be better
ken-flo should get a title shot after he subs j-lau
[quote comment="332770"]UFC 84….Roid Rage Revenge[/quote]
LOL nice one. I think this card will surprise a few people as to the end results, looking forward to it.
[quote comment="332578"]I hope wanderlei wins. I am one of his biggest fans but I just have a bad feeling about this fight. I just think this is a bad fight style wise for wandi. I would like to see him use more knees from the clinch and maybe if he does he has a chance to win this fight but if he just stands and tries to bang it out with Jardine like he did with chuck I don’t see him winning the fight. You’re my boy Wandi, prove me wrong![/quote]
I don’t think you have much to worry about man. Wanderlie’s aggressive style will prove to much for Jardine to handle. Not to take any credit away from Jardine because he deserves it with wins over Liddell and Forest, but the only reason he won the Chuck fight is because Chuck held back way to much, you will not find Wanderlie doing that, when has he ever?
ihope wandy and thiago win so they can fight eachother for the chance at a title shot.BJ by sub in the 3rd
penn submits sherk
silva tko over tito
jardine wins by the jugdes.
u can say i’m stupid but i have never placed higher then 121st in the ufc fantasy. my best is 64th. so i’m not the smartest. and there has always been more then 10,000 fans in the fantsy.
What’s with the “blood” coming out of Sherk’s left elbow ? How tasteless is this poster it cannot be UFC approved looks doctored to me. Probably to insinuate that Sherk is a “juicer” complete nonsense. Anyway the title of UFC 84 is kind of pathetic “Ill Will” ? I mean it is so 2002 when the UFC wasn’t a glimmer in mainstream.
The “Battle on the Boardwalk” (Atlantic City) sounds better
[quote comment="332904"]What’s with the “blood” coming out of Sherk’s left elbow ? How tasteless is this poster it cannot be UFC approved looks doctored to me. Probably to insinuate that Sherk is a “juicer” complete nonsense. Anyway the title of UFC 84 is kind of pathetic “Ill Will” ? I mean it is so 2002 when the UFC wasn’t a glimmer in mainstream.
The “Battle on the Boardwalk” (Atlantic City) sounds better[/quote]
ill will is a great name for it. it is what sherk has for penn. why is everone saying switch the name did u not see the last ufc ppv? sherk has alot of ill will for penn.
[quote comment="332464"][quote comment="332409"][quote comment="332387"]They should have gone with:
UFC 84: The loser gets teabagged.[/quote]
HAHAHAH LMAO… Yes mate!
UFC 84: Teabag Choke[/quote]
Why, is that what you want to see? If that’s truely the case, I’d recommend you rent some gay porn for $5 instead of paying $45 to see the fights.
As for the card, Ortiz/Machida, Silva/Jardine, and Evan/Silva are all TOP NOTCH fights where any one of them could have been a headlinging fight along with a main event (meaning, the 2nd biggest fight on the card, and the one that we’d see featured during the second half of UFC Countdown). Instead, we get treated to all 3 of them in one night with Penn/Sherk as the main event. That is a solid main card!!![/quote]
…before you react its just a joke
Chill pill…No need for that talk. Sorry for having a sense of humour…Anyways, how would you know the cost of gay porn VM
[quote comment="332827"][quote comment="332578"]I hope wanderlei wins. I am one of his biggest fans but I just have a bad feeling about this fight. I just think this is a bad fight style wise for wandi. I would like to see him use more knees from the clinch and maybe if he does he has a chance to win this fight but if he just stands and tries to bang it out with Jardine like he did with chuck I don’t see him winning the fight. You’re my boy Wandi, prove me wrong![/quote]
I don’t think you have much to worry about man. Wanderlie’s aggressive style will prove to much for Jardine to handle. Not to take any credit away from Jardine because he deserves it with wins over Liddell and Forest, but the only reason he won the Chuck fight is because Chuck held back way to much, you will not find Wanderlie doing that, when has he ever?[/quote]
I don’t know, I felt Wandi held back (although just a tiny amount) when he fought Chuck, or it was more like he tried to be more of a tactical striker as opposed to his normally agressive style, and i think he knows it too which is one of the reasons he was calling for a rematch with Chuck. but yeh, I agree with Mike that Wandi will be too much for KJ, I REFUSE to believe that Wandi can lose this fight. Please don’t lose this fight.
Sorry i mean i agree with youbug
[quote comment="332969"][quote comment="332464"][quote comment="332409"][quote comment="332387"]They should have gone with:
UFC 84: The loser gets teabagged.[/quote]
HAHAHAH LMAO… Yes mate!
UFC 84: Teabag Choke[/quote]
Why, is that what you want to see? If that’s truely the case, I’d recommend you rent some gay porn for $5 instead of paying $45 to see the fights.
As for the card, Ortiz/Machida, Silva/Jardine, and Evan/Silva are all TOP NOTCH fights where any one of them could have been a headlinging fight along with a main event (meaning, the 2nd biggest fight on the card, and the one that we’d see featured during the second half of UFC Countdown). Instead, we get treated to all 3 of them in one night with Penn/Sherk as the main event. That is a solid main card!!![/quote]
…before you react its just a joke[/quote]
Chill pill…No need for that talk. Sorry for having a sense of humour…Anyways, how would you know the cost of gay porn VM
In my opinion, there was no need to talk about one man tea-bagging another. When I think of BJ Penn vs Sean Sherk, the thought of the two of them naked with one standing over the other dunking his balls into the others’ mouth doesn’t pop into my head. I don’t know, maybe I’m in the minority on this one, BUT I’D SURE HOPE NOT!!!
when bj is prepared he not only wins, but dominates fights in a fashion not seen in any other fighter except maybe gsp. If hes like the last couple of fights hes been in, i would have to feel sorry for sean sherk. should b a good one nevertheless.
[quote comment="333016"][quote comment="332969"][quote comment="332464"][quote comment="332409"][quote comment="332387"]They should have gone with:
UFC 84: The loser gets teabagged.[/quote]
HAHAHAH LMAO… Yes mate!
UFC 84: Teabag Choke[/quote]
Why, is that what you want to see? If that’s truely the case, I’d recommend you rent some gay porn for $5 instead of paying $45 to see the fights.
As for the card, Ortiz/Machida, Silva/Jardine, and Evan/Silva are all TOP NOTCH fights where any one of them could have been a headlinging fight along with a main event (meaning, the 2nd biggest fight on the card, and the one that we’d see featured during the second half of UFC Countdown). Instead, we get treated to all 3 of them in one night with Penn/Sherk as the main event. That is a solid main card!!![/quote]
…before you react its just a joke[/quote]
Chill pill…No need for that talk. Sorry for having a sense of humour…Anyways, how would you know the cost of gay porn VM
In my opinion, there was no need to talk about one man tea-bagging another. When I think of BJ Penn vs Sean Sherk, the thought of the two of them naked with one standing over the other dunking his balls into the others’ mouth doesn’t pop into my head. I don’t know, maybe I’m in the minority on this one, BUT I’D SURE HOPE NOT!!![/quote]
Dude what kind of conversation did I just get in to?
God I can’t wait for this event. Gonna be SOOO good, you can tell this is a good event because of how much 83 is being overlooked right now, not a whole lotta talk about 83 except the occasional GSP/Serra debate.
This is how the poster should be, thank god Ortiz wanst anywhere to be seen, this is about the LW title fight!!
Having said all that, I will be betting the house on Penn. He is the surest bet out there, and agaisnt Sherk, his odd’s shouldn’t be all too bad, this is the time to strike!! Every dollar in my Betus account is going on Penn come time for 84.
I like that american fans start to love Wanderlei.He’s by far one of the best fighters ever and his win over Jardine will put him again in the top of the LHW mix.This is the fight i’m waiting the most.
Siva,thiago wins and hands down…Tito will smash this machida character!!! Dana will look stunned and say…ohhh my goodness he just beat my #5 ranked fighter in the world…and tito will laugh all the way back to the locker room and say pack my shit ufc whores im going to anothe group where they will respect greatness and i know all the ufc fans will follow cause everybody wants to watch him fight.
What’s with the “blood” coming out of Sherk’s left elbow ? How tasteless is this poster it cannot be UFC approved looks doctored to me. Probably to insinuate that Sherk is a “juicer” complete nonsense. Anyway the title of UFC 84 is kind of pathetic “Ill Will” ? I mean it is so 2002 when the UFC wasn’t a glimmer in mainstream.
The “Battle on the Boardwalk” (Atlantic City) sounds better
ill will is a great name for it. it is what sherk has for penn. why is everone saying switch the name did u not see the last ufc ppv? sherk has alot of ill will for penn.
I understand ya Jimbo I do but it sounds a little corny is all. We know that they hate each other, the name of the event just seems a little to directed and over pushed it you will. Not sure how else to say it.
[quote comment="332347"][quote comment="332337"]The Muscle Shark is going to win bar none.
This is the weakest name that I have ever heard for a UFC event. This makes Validation look good.[/quote]
Ill Will? Whats it going to feature a NAS concert?[/quote]
HAHA. I was just joking about that!
If Jardine beats Wandy, he better get a title shot!
[quote comment="333213"]God I can’t wait for this event. Gonna be SOOO good, you can tell this is a good event because of how much 83 is being overlooked right now, not a whole lotta talk about 83 except the occasional GSP/Serra debate.
This is how the poster should be, thank god Ortiz wanst anywhere to be seen, this is about the LW title fight!!
Having said all that, I will be betting the house on Penn. He is the surest bet out there, and agaisnt Sherk, his odd’s shouldn’t be all too bad, this is the time to strike!! Every dollar in my Betus account is going on Penn come time for 84.[/quote]
I’m right there with ya my man.
[quote comment="333502"][quote comment="332347"][quote comment="332337"]The Muscle Shark is going to win bar none.
This is the weakest name that I have ever heard for a UFC event. This makes Validation look good.[/quote]
Ill Will? Whats it going to feature a NAS concert?[/quote]
HAHA. I was just joking about that!
If Jardine beats Wandy, he better get a title shot![/quote]
I don’t really care for Jardine, but the truth of the matter is he really does deserve a title shot if he wins(which I doubt). He beat Liddell and Forrest, and I think he lost to Houston in a shamefull manner because he did not take him seriously.
[quote comment="333535"][quote comment="333502"][quote comment="332347"][quote comment="332337"]The Muscle Shark is going to win bar none.
This is the weakest name that I have ever heard for a UFC event. This makes Validation look good.[/quote]
Ill Will? Whats it going to feature a NAS concert?[/quote]
HAHA. I was just joking about that!
If Jardine beats Wandy, he better get a title shot![/quote]
I don’t really care for Jardine, but the truth of the matter is he really does deserve a title shot if he wins(which I doubt). He beat Liddell and Forrest, and I think he lost to Houston in a shamefull manner because he did not take him seriously.[/quote]
Exactly!
ANd oh yeah………..BJ ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DAMMMNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!! Tito got fired…He wasn’t even supposed to be PM..stupid a$$ Omarosa.
[quote comment="332330"]I can’t wait for BJ to bang Sherk out…[/quote]
Don’t you mean GAS OUT!
[quote comment="332580"]personally i would like to see penn win this fight but i dont see it happening. Sherk was able to beat franca a bjj black belt without even coming to close to getting submitted and yea franca had him in a couple of chokes but i dont think anybody is going to choke out sherk his neck is huuuuuggggeee. I think sherk will be able to take penn down and control him for five rounds and possibly finish him if penn gases which is likely.[/quote]
That’s about how I see it going too. Franca was juiced also,so he was probably stronger than BJ. I can see Penn trying for many subs and Sherk will just power out.
[quote comment="332711"][quote comment="332678"][quote comment="332535"]SHERK IS GOING 2 SMASH BJ’s FAT HEAD IN
TITO WILL GROUND AND POUND OUT MACHIDA
SILVA WILL SPARK KEITH[/quote]
Well i guess you got the silva part right…[/quote]
Yea, Sherk is gonna smash BJ’s head in, just like Hughes, GSP, Pulver, Stevenson, Gomi, and Renzo did, oh wait BJ smashed all their heads in, oooops . . . And all of them with the exception of Pulve/Stevenson have or would slaughter Sherk. I wish people that throw this kind of 1 liner crap predictions up on the orum would back it with some facts/reasoning. Probably dont because they know how rediculous these statements are. Everyone thinks Silva will win everytime he fights so way to be original there! LoL![/quote]
Last I saw Hughes was POUNDING Penns head into a pancake. BJ LOST to GSP and once to Pulver. Bj COULDN’T deal with the strength of the last 2 guys he fought that were strong wrestlers like Sherk and he LOST. How about them FACTS.
[quote comment="333619"][quote comment="332711"][quote comment="332678"][quote comment="332535"]SHERK IS GOING 2 SMASH BJ’s FAT HEAD IN
TITO WILL GROUND AND POUND OUT MACHIDA
SILVA WILL SPARK KEITH[/quote]
Well i guess you got the silva part right…[/quote]
Yea, Sherk is gonna smash BJ’s head in, just like Hughes, GSP, Pulver, Stevenson, Gomi, and Renzo did, oh wait BJ smashed all their heads in, oooops . . . And all of them with the exception of Pulve/Stevenson have or would slaughter Sherk. I wish people that throw this kind of 1 liner crap predictions up on the orum would back it with some facts/reasoning. Probably dont because they know how rediculous these statements are. Everyone thinks Silva will win everytime he fights so way to be original there! LoL![/quote]
Last I saw Hughes was POUNDING Penns head into a pancake. BJ LOST to GSP and once to Pulver. Bj COULDN’T deal with the strength of the last 2 guys he fought that were strong wrestlers like Sherk and he LOST. How about them FACTS.[/quote]
SO much wrong with you’r statement Gord, I don’t even know where to begin
This card will shape the LH div for the next two years. 4 main event matches, plus Sokouju vs. Nakamura, so each of the televised fights are freaking awesome, cant wait!!!!! I still say Tito vs. Shogun or Wandy would’ve been a better match up.
[quote comment="333694"][quote comment="333619"][quote comment="332711"][quote comment="332678"][quote comment="332535"]SHERK IS GOING 2 SMASH BJ’s FAT HEAD IN
TITO WILL GROUND AND POUND OUT MACHIDA
SILVA WILL SPARK KEITH[/quote]
Well i guess you got the silva part right…[/quote]
Yea, Sherk is gonna smash BJ’s head in, just like Hughes, GSP, Pulver, Stevenson, Gomi, and Renzo did, oh wait BJ smashed all their heads in, oooops . . . And all of them with the exception of Pulve/Stevenson have or would slaughter Sherk. I wish people that throw this kind of 1 liner crap predictions up on the orum would back it with some facts/reasoning. Probably dont because they know how rediculous these statements are. Everyone thinks Silva will win everytime he fights so way to be original there! LoL![/quote]
Last I saw Hughes was POUNDING Penns head into a pancake. BJ LOST to GSP and once to Pulver. Bj COULDN’T deal with the strength of the last 2 guys he fought that were strong wrestlers like Sherk and he LOST. How about them FACTS.[/quote]
SO much wrong with you’r statement Gord, I don’t even know where to begin[/quote]
sPEAKING OF hUGHES VS. Penn, I woke up at 4:30 in the morning for some reason and I couldnt go back to sleep, so a twisted a lil something and popped in uFC 47 SuperNatural, The 1st time Bj won the title, making Matt Hughes look like a schoolgirls.
That was a priceless event. So many fighters on that card have become gig names now. For instance Matt Serra vs. Jeff Curran…that was an awesome fight
GSP vs. Karo was on the prelims and now they are top 5 fighters.
It reminded me that fighters and the UFC have come a long way.
add my comment please mania…I see nothing wrong with my last one…was sitting there waiting for moderation for about 5 hours then just vanished altogether?
[quote comment="332378"][quote comment="332363"]…or UFC 84: Dead or Aliive (After BJ’s comments when he beat Joe Daddy)[/quote]
LOL. UFC 84: Sean Sherk You’re Dead![/quote]
How bout UFC 84: The Death of Sean Sherk
[quote comment="333694"][quote comment="333619"][quote comment="332711"][quote comment="332678"][quote comment="332535"]SHERK IS GOING 2 SMASH BJ’s FAT HEAD IN
TITO WILL GROUND AND POUND OUT MACHIDA
SILVA WILL SPARK KEITH[/quote]
Well i guess you got the silva part right…[/quote]
Yea, Sherk is gonna smash BJ’s head in, just like Hughes, GSP, Pulver, Stevenson, Gomi, and Renzo did, oh wait BJ smashed all their heads in, oooops . . . And all of them with the exception of Pulve/Stevenson have or would slaughter Sherk. I wish people that throw this kind of 1 liner crap predictions up on the orum would back it with some facts/reasoning. Probably dont because they know how rediculous these statements are. Everyone thinks Silva will win everytime he fights so way to be original there! LoL![/quote]
Last I saw Hughes was POUNDING Penns head into a pancake. BJ LOST to GSP and once to Pulver. Bj COULDN’T deal with the strength of the last 2 guys he fought that were strong wrestlers like Sherk and he LOST. How about them FACTS.[/quote]
SO much wrong with you’r statement Gord, I don’t even know where to begin[/quote]
Well first off Hughes and GSP were much much bigger than Penn and Sherk isn’t going to have this advantage. But if you watch those two fights Penn was dominating Hughes before he broke his rib and gave GSP one of the closest fights of his career. BJ Penn will outstrike Sherk and his BJJ is on another level from anyone else in the lightweigh or weilterweight division for that matter. Sherk will be in trouble anywhere this fight goes. Just watch GSP vs Sean Serk if you wanna see a preview of how this fight will go.
[quote comment="333597"][quote comment="332580"]personally i would like to see penn win this fight but i dont see it happening. Sherk was able to beat franca a bjj black belt without even coming to close to getting submitted and yea franca had him in a couple of chokes but i dont think anybody is going to choke out sherk his neck is huuuuuggggeee. I think sherk will be able to take penn down and control him for five rounds and possibly finish him if penn gases which is likely.[/quote]
That’s about how I see it going too. Franca was juiced also,so he was probably stronger than BJ. I can see Penn trying for many subs and Sherk will just power out.[/quote]
Trust me the difference between Franca’s BJJ and BJs BJJ is night and day. Don’t get me wrong Franca has some great BJJ but not all black belts are equal. BJ has 4 arms for crying out loud. Plus he has much much better take down defense than Franca. I mean GSP had trouble taking BJ down and he took Koz, Matt Hughes, and Serk down at will so that says a lot about BJs take down defense.
[quote comment="334819"][quote comment="333597"][quote comment="332580"]personally i would like to see penn win this fight but i dont see it happening. Sherk was able to beat franca a bjj black belt without even coming to close to getting submitted and yea franca had him in a couple of chokes but i dont think anybody is going to choke out sherk his neck is huuuuuggggeee. I think sherk will be able to take penn down and control him for five rounds and possibly finish him if penn gases which is likely.[/quote]
That’s about how I see it going too. Franca was juiced also,so he was probably stronger than BJ. I can see Penn trying for many subs and Sherk will just power out.[/quote]
Trust me the difference between Franca’s BJJ and BJs BJJ is night and day. Don’t get me wrong Franca has some great BJJ but not all black belts are equal. BJ has 4 arms for crying out loud. Plus he has much much better take down defense than Franca. I mean GSP had trouble taking BJ down and he took Koz, Matt Hughes, and Serk down at will so that says a lot about BJs take down defense.[/quote]
Trigg said he didn’t try to choke out Hughes in there second fight cuz it felt like he was grabbing a horse neck, that was after Penn choked hughes dizzy and won the championship. If you’r BJJ is good enough, you can choke anybody, like GSP4prez already said, all black belts in BJJ are no where near the same, some our white belts compared to others, and Sherk can be choked no problem.
And yeah Penn’s take down defense is on par with GSP’s, so Sherk better be ready for that.
I don’t, however, see Penn taking Sherk down, unless it’s cuz he knocks him down with some punches.
Sherk is only 5′6, Penn is 5′9. Has Penn ever faught anyone that short? How tall are Hughes, Pulver, Stevenson, Uno and Gomi??? I think sherks the shortest except for maybe Uno . . . Sherks gonna look like a rag doll, lamb to slaughter!
Ill will is a pretty good name since Dana hates Tito and it will be Tito’s last fight in the UFC.
[quote comment="341611"]Sherk is only 5′6, Penn is 5′9. Has Penn ever faught anyone that short? How tall are Hughes, Pulver, Stevenson, Uno and Gomi??? I think sherks the shortest except for maybe Uno . . . Sherks gonna look like a rag doll, lamb to slaughter![/quote]
He fought Serra. I’m Pretty sure Serra is about the same height. Penn has superior striking,Bjj,and takedown defense. Sherk has the strength and wrestling advantage.Bj F’d up GSP’s face before he got tired. Not many people can do that. Bj is constanly working on his cardio. Myself Coming from hilo hawaii as well, I know this for a fact. This is an all around bad fight for Sherk. Bj penn is in shape ladies and gentlemen. No excuses for this fight.
[quote comment="347198"][quote comment="341611"]Sherk is only 5′6, Penn is 5′9. Has Penn ever faught anyone that short? How tall are Hughes, Pulver, Stevenson, Uno and Gomi??? I think sherks the shortest except for maybe Uno . . . Sherks gonna look like a rag doll, lamb to slaughter![/quote]
He fought Serra. I’m Pretty sure Serra is about the same height. Penn has superior striking,Bjj,and takedown defense. Sherk has the strength and wrestling advantage.Bj F’d up GSP’s face before he got tired. Not many people can do that. Bj is constanly working on his cardio. Myself Coming from hilo hawaii as well, I know this for a fact. This is an all around bad fight for Sherk. Bj penn is in shape ladies and gentlemen. No excuses for this fight.[/quote]
And against GSP was the old BJ, The new Penn drops ‘em in 2 from those same punches. Sherks gonna look like a ragdoll and i hope when he tries to give BJ his back BJ doesnt take it an just keeps hitting him but not enough for the ref to stop it, like what he did to Jans and somewhat Stevenson. But with sherk hell, when he gives up the back to Penn, Penn should get up off of him and make him stand back up and take more punishment ’til he throws in the towell or it goes to a unanimous bloody decision but not to let him out easy no matter what!!! Lamb To Slaughter! “its just the wrong time to fight BJ Penn” Make an example of ‘em BJ! Theres a reason why no one comes back for seconds win or lose, Jans had nuts for being the first to fight BJ in his new found life. And hes the one with the least reason to ever except a 2nd bout with BJ. Gomi should want one the worst simply to prove his #1 ranking status and should be stoked that BJ came all the way back down to 155lbs (what long time BJ Penn fan can believe it, its almost funny to see him kicking *ss after all these years of backing him through random failures that should never had happened) but Gomi’s he’s in no rush LoL GSP As well, to answer any Q’s about who won that first fight, but i dont see him saying anything, Penn had to come back for Hughes to prove it wasnt a fluke (Matt would have retired happily with never fighting Penn a 2nd time) (You dont see him looking for Dennis Hallman ya know) Intstead Penn will have to seek them out, Hughes (III), GSP II & III, Machida II, Silva I II, (I only say Silva I and II because when Penn gets the first two theres no reason for a III)
[quote comment="332535"]SHERK IS GOING 2 SMASH BJ’s FAT HEAD IN
TITO WILL GROUND AND POUND OUT MACHIDA
SILVA WILL SPARK KEITH[/quote]
i agree with all that but the bj vs. sherk fight he might get caught with a submisson but then agin bj has poor cardio so i can see sherk wining by uniomus
bj vs. sherk fight he might get caught with a submisson but then agin bj has poor cardio so i can see sherk wining by uniomus
tito will ground and pound
wandy will knee keith in the face
any one agree
I disagree, cardios no longer a factor in BJ Penns life. And it not his fault that no one can get past the 2nd round to prove it. Oh, wait, maybe it is his fault, digress . . . Penn by RNC in the 3rd.