Comments on: Report: Psychiatrist attending to Ryan Gracie responsible for fighters death http://mmamania.com/2008/02/23/report-psychiatrist-attending-to-ryan-gracie-responsible-for-fighters-death/ UFC news, event schedules, fight analysis, Octagon predictions, UFC fighters and MMA thoughts Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:03:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: jsmith http://mmamania.com/2008/02/23/report-psychiatrist-attending-to-ryan-gracie-responsible-for-fighters-death/#comment-1022932 jsmith Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:17:25 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/23/report-psychiatrist-attending-to-ryan-gracie-responsible-for-fighters-death/#comment-1022932 he was no saint,but the fact is these doctors are the real dope dealers getting paid to prescribe and inject us.in the us we give our kids dextramethamphetamine( a form of crank,speed ,meth)to make them pay attention in school.its just sad doctors take the hypocrites oath now to do whatever they can to make money(plastic boobs etc)with no regard to health of the customer,i mean patient.remember the hypocratic oath.the doctor killed ryan. he was no saint,but the fact is these doctors are the real dope dealers getting paid to prescribe and inject us.in the us we give our kids dextramethamphetamine( a form of crank,speed ,meth)to make them pay attention in school.its just sad doctors take the hypocrites oath now to do whatever they can to make money(plastic boobs etc)with no regard to health of the customer,i mean patient.remember the hypocratic oath.the doctor killed ryan.

]]> By: EazyEismydad http://mmamania.com/2008/02/23/report-psychiatrist-attending-to-ryan-gracie-responsible-for-fighters-death/#comment-327037 EazyEismydad Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:14:05 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/23/report-psychiatrist-attending-to-ryan-gracie-responsible-for-fighters-death/#comment-327037 Psychiatrists are government certified pushers. At least 90% of them should lose their medical licenses. Psychiatrists are government certified pushers. At least 90% of them should lose their medical licenses.

]]> By: AdamYves http://mmamania.com/2008/02/23/report-psychiatrist-attending-to-ryan-gracie-responsible-for-fighters-death/#comment-327018 AdamYves Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:31:45 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/23/report-psychiatrist-attending-to-ryan-gracie-responsible-for-fighters-death/#comment-327018 Those are some serious drugs, sounds like Ryan had a very sad time. A lot of people who are in that kind of state often self medicate, and/or take more then they are prescribed,and add other drugs like cocaine, weed, alchohol. To charge this doctor with manslaughter would be obscene. If anything does come up,take away his practise. Those are some serious drugs, sounds like Ryan had a very sad time. A lot of people who are in that kind of state often self medicate, and/or take more then they are prescribed,and add other drugs like cocaine, weed, alchohol. To charge this doctor with manslaughter would be obscene. If anything does come up,take away his practise.

]]> By: ten blade http://mmamania.com/2008/02/23/report-psychiatrist-attending-to-ryan-gracie-responsible-for-fighters-death/#comment-325970 ten blade Sun, 24 Feb 2008 14:49:12 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/23/report-psychiatrist-attending-to-ryan-gracie-responsible-for-fighters-death/#comment-325970 if the stiff is abusing cocaine, than he will abuse prescription drugs as well. Disgraceful blaming the physician. The docs fault with Heath Ledger too I guess... These idiots get addicted to pain killers & before long cannot function without them, further necessitating escalating doses, and finally on to more powerful opiods such as oxycontin. Oxycontin, cocaine, ambien, vicodin....loser antidote to life if the stiff is abusing cocaine, than he will abuse prescription drugs as well. Disgraceful blaming the physician. The docs fault with Heath Ledger too I guess… These idiots get addicted to pain killers & before long cannot function without them, further necessitating escalating doses, and finally on to more powerful opiods such as oxycontin. Oxycontin, cocaine, ambien, vicodin….loser antidote to life

]]> By: Shamanute http://mmamania.com/2008/02/23/report-psychiatrist-attending-to-ryan-gracie-responsible-for-fighters-death/#comment-325384 Shamanute Sun, 24 Feb 2008 00:13:09 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/23/report-psychiatrist-attending-to-ryan-gracie-responsible-for-fighters-death/#comment-325384 How can the doc take any responsibility for this? He didnt prescirbe any illegal drugs, nor can he be responsible for any adverse reactions that gracie may of had while mixing the presciption meds with illegals. Its a tragedy but common now. Ryan is the only one to blame here. How can the doc take any responsibility for this? He didnt prescirbe any illegal drugs, nor can he be responsible for any adverse reactions that gracie may of had while mixing the presciption meds with illegals. Its a tragedy but common now. Ryan is the only one to blame here.

]]> By: linx http://mmamania.com/2008/02/23/report-psychiatrist-attending-to-ryan-gracie-responsible-for-fighters-death/#comment-325140 linx Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:37:36 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/23/report-psychiatrist-attending-to-ryan-gracie-responsible-for-fighters-death/#comment-325140 [quote comment="324982"]I agree that Dr.s have been abusing scripts for years. With Oxycoting Dr. where getting cruises, paid vacations, cash bonuses, ect. for being the best rx writers in their particular region. But lets be honest here Ryan Gracie was a coke head. And a year of abusing coke several times a week will cause entirely more damage then anything else Ryan was on. Authorities are out of their mind if they press manslaughter charges on this guy, when they know their was cocaine in his system. Has anyone ever seen a MRI of the brain on a long term cocaine user. There is so many parts that just lay unreactive. Only in todays world does the DR get the blame before the obvious drug abuse problem....[/quote] See the thing is, being a doctor maybe he should've known not to prescribe something with the drugs that were already in ryan's system. I'm not saying that the doctor is at fault here, but if they find that he was negligent, than I agree that he should face charges. Than again, they still need to see if the prescription drugs were the cause of his death. If they find that the cocaine abuse was the only cause for his death, than the doctor would be in the clear. If they find that the prescription drugs, along with the drugs that were on his system were the cause of his death, than the doctor would have been negligent. [quote comment="324832"][quote comment="324790"] What an idiot. Obviously the doctor did not intend for the poor man to have such an adverse reaction to the script.[/quote] Under Canadian (and im pretty sure American) law, manslaughter does not require an element of intent. This would be closer to "criminal negligence causing death", though. But knows, maybe the criminal laws in Brazil regarding manslaughter are different... Either way, what a tragedy...[/quote] "Manslaughter" means killing without the initial intend to do so here in Brasil and everywhere in the world. The meaning of the term "manslaughter" is universal. RIP Ryan! [quote comment=”324982″]I agree that Dr.s have been abusing scripts for years. With Oxycoting Dr. where getting cruises, paid vacations, cash bonuses, ect. for being the best rx writers in their particular region. But lets be honest here Ryan Gracie was a coke head. And a year of abusing coke several times a week will cause entirely more damage then anything else Ryan was on. Authorities are out of their mind if they press manslaughter charges on this guy, when they know their was cocaine in his system. Has anyone ever seen a MRI of the brain on a long term cocaine user. There is so many parts that just lay unreactive. Only in todays world does the DR get the blame before the obvious drug abuse problem….[/quote]

See the thing is, being a doctor maybe he should’ve known not to prescribe something with the drugs that were already in ryan’s system. I’m not saying that the doctor is at fault here, but if they find that he was negligent, than I agree that he should face charges. Than again, they still need to see if the prescription drugs were the cause of his death. If they find that the cocaine abuse was the only cause for his death, than the doctor would be in the clear. If they find that the prescription drugs, along with the drugs that were on his system were the cause of his death, than the doctor would have been negligent.

[quote comment=”324832″][quote comment=”324790″]

What an idiot. Obviously the doctor did not intend for the poor man to have such an adverse reaction to the script.[/quote]

Under Canadian (and im pretty sure American) law, manslaughter does not require an element of intent. This would be closer to “criminal negligence causing death”, though. But knows, maybe the criminal laws in Brazil regarding manslaughter are different…

Either way, what a tragedy…[/quote]

“Manslaughter” means killing without the initial intend to do so here in Brasil and everywhere in the world. The meaning of the term “manslaughter” is universal.

RIP Ryan!

]]> By: clayton http://mmamania.com/2008/02/23/report-psychiatrist-attending-to-ryan-gracie-responsible-for-fighters-death/#comment-325127 clayton Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:10:16 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/23/report-psychiatrist-attending-to-ryan-gracie-responsible-for-fighters-death/#comment-325127 one you ad cocaine to the mix, all responsibility is off the doctor, IMO. one you ad cocaine to the mix, all responsibility is off the doctor, IMO.

]]> By: jimmy v http://mmamania.com/2008/02/23/report-psychiatrist-attending-to-ryan-gracie-responsible-for-fighters-death/#comment-325033 jimmy v Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:26:59 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/23/report-psychiatrist-attending-to-ryan-gracie-responsible-for-fighters-death/#comment-325033 doctors dont prescribe cocaine last time i checked and its up to the patient to take the recomened dose and not abuse it but anyways r.i.p ryan . doctors dont prescribe cocaine last time i checked and its up to the patient to take the recomened dose and not abuse it but anyways r.i.p ryan .

]]> By: Da Monkey http://mmamania.com/2008/02/23/report-psychiatrist-attending-to-ryan-gracie-responsible-for-fighters-death/#comment-324982 Da Monkey Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:15:15 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/23/report-psychiatrist-attending-to-ryan-gracie-responsible-for-fighters-death/#comment-324982 I agree that Dr.s have been abusing scripts for years. With Oxycoting Dr. where getting cruises, paid vacations, cash bonuses, ect. for being the best rx writers in their particular region. But lets be honest here Ryan Gracie was a coke head. And a year of abusing coke several times a week will cause entirely more damage then anything else Ryan was on. Authorities are out of their mind if they press manslaughter charges on this guy, when they know their was cocaine in his system. Has anyone ever seen a MRI of the brain on a long term cocaine user. There is so many parts that just lay unreactive. Only in todays world does the DR get the blame before the obvious drug abuse problem.... I agree that Dr.s have been abusing scripts for years. With Oxycoting Dr. where getting cruises, paid vacations, cash bonuses, ect. for being the best rx writers in their particular region. But lets be honest here Ryan Gracie was a coke head. And a year of abusing coke several times a week will cause entirely more damage then anything else Ryan was on. Authorities are out of their mind if they press manslaughter charges on this guy, when they know their was cocaine in his system. Has anyone ever seen a MRI of the brain on a long term cocaine user. There is so many parts that just lay unreactive. Only in todays world does the DR get the blame before the obvious drug abuse problem….

]]> By: linx http://mmamania.com/2008/02/23/report-psychiatrist-attending-to-ryan-gracie-responsible-for-fighters-death/#comment-324960 linx Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:43:34 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/23/report-psychiatrist-attending-to-ryan-gracie-responsible-for-fighters-death/#comment-324960 [quote comment="324790"]"Investigator Roberto Calaca Vieira has even gone as far as to say that Neto should be indicted for manslaughter." What an idiot. Obviously the doctor did not intend for the poor man to have such an adverse reaction to the script.[/quote] That's exactly what manslaughter is, killed without the intention to do so. I'm sure he didn't intend to, but his prescriptions may have caused ryan's death, prompting the malpractice from his part. If so, he should be fined and they should take his medical license away, along with any criminal charges that may proceed. On a side note, the doctor was sent by the Gracie family to try to persuade the police to release him to the hospital, not to treat him there. [quote comment=”324790″]”Investigator Roberto Calaca Vieira has even gone as far as to say that Neto should be indicted for manslaughter.”

What an idiot. Obviously the doctor did not intend for the poor man to have such an adverse reaction to the script.[/quote]

That’s exactly what manslaughter is, killed without the intention to do so. I’m sure he didn’t intend to, but his prescriptions may have caused ryan’s death, prompting the malpractice from his part. If so, he should be fined and they should take his medical license away, along with any criminal charges that may proceed. On a side note, the doctor was sent by the Gracie family to try to persuade the police to release him to the hospital, not to treat him there.

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