i hope the rematch is for the belt as id love to see chuck wanderlei in a 5 rounder

its hard to judge how good rampage is

in his 3 fights back

eastman isnt exactly a top level fighter probably not even top 20 205

chuck was a single lucky punch

he did look good against dangrous dan and his cardio did impress

in other divisions there seem to be very few/no serious threats to the champion

BJ just sherk hes way above the others

GSP fitch and possibly BJ

silva hendo possibly GSP possibly BJ

NOG… ??? 205ers steppingup

but rampage could easily lose to anyone in the top 10 as the competition is so fierce

chuck looks set to face winner of rampage forrest as long as he first gets past shogun so i guess theres a good chance of chuck getting a title shot around september time and could then possibly face wandy on NYE

Silva will fight Keith Jardine on May 24
He then will probably fight Houston Alexander or Lyoto Machida in September
A re match could then occur in December 2008 with Chuck Liddell with the winner getting Rampage/Griffen

Hate to say it… I think Jardine wins.

dude thats randy couture in the corner with wandy!!!!!!!!!!

I can’t wait for that card. Penn’s fighting, Wandy’s fighting, and the last fight for The Huntington Beach Bad Boy is on this card. Can’t wait.

wandy would get destroy again if he fought chuck once gain in the date of Dec 30. Dec30 is always been a lucky day for chuck, win against tito,wandy lols, kidding

[quote comment=”321865″]wandy would get destroy again if he fought chuck once gain in the date of Dec 30.

Dec30 is always been a lucky day for chuck, win against tito,wandy lols, kidding :)[/quote]
Dec 29.. Well for the meantime, Wandy vs Jardine since it will be a while til somebody gets a title shot after Forrest. Don’t forget to throw Thiago Silva into the mix, maybe vs. Rashad. The LHW Div is pretty stacked, many possibilities.Winner of Houston vs Irvin, vs Sokojou or Bonnar? So the May card should be pretty stacked, Wandy, Jardine, Tito, Machida, BJ, Sherk!

As a fan, besides waiting for Forrest and Rampage, Shogun and Liddell; I, as a fan am not really getting the matchups I want to see. I wanted to see Rashad and Tito 2, which now won’t happen. I wanted to see Hamill and Bisping rematch, which now won’t happen. I’d also like to see Wandy vs Thiago Silva just because they originated in the same camp. If Wandy does go to MW, him and Anderson would be great too.

[quote comment=”321833″]i hope the rematch is for the belt as id love to see chuck wanderlei in a 5 rounder

its hard to judge how good rampage is

in his 3 fights back

eastman isnt exactly a top level fighter probably not even top 20 205

chuck was a single lucky punch

he did look good against dangrous dan and his cardio did impress

in other divisions there seem to be very few/no serious threats to the champion

BJ just sherk hes way above the others

GSP fitch and possibly BJ

silva hendo possibly GSP possibly BJ

NOG… ??? 205ers steppingup

but rampage could easily lose to anyone in the top 10 as the competition is so fierce

chuck looks set to face winner of rampage forrest as long as he first gets past shogun so i guess theres a good chance of chuck getting a title shot around september time and could then possibly face wandy on NYE[/quote]
a lucky punch???what about there 1st fight face it chuck is done he is an over-rated bum if he gets a title shot b4 a bunch of worthy people i will be done wit the ufc…why cant chuck jus accept the fact that he isnt a top 5 maybe top 10 205 anymore,,,go away chuck ur done go fight kimbo or tank

i would pay 1000dollars to watch thiago silva maybe hurt chuck so bad he may retire…hell i think rashad im a joke evans

the only reson chuck gets any big fights is cause hes dana whites bitch..he sold out he friendship wit tito cause dana told him too if that doesnt make somebody a bitch u tell me what does

[quote comment=”321842″]Hate to say it… I think Jardine wins.[/quote]
i wouldnt hate to say it. ill even quote you. I think people overlook jardine. Porbley cause of that vicious KO from houston alexander. And if he did get past jardine chuck would surely knock his head off this time.

[quote comment=”321864″]I can’t wait for that card. Penn’s fighting, Wandy’s fighting, and the last fight for The Huntington Beach Bad Boy is on this card. Can’t wait.[/quote]

dont be suprised if foul mouth, manipulates this as a swing bout, if Machida wins it will definitely be televised one last slap in titos face but if tito can some how pull off the win it will not be televised, for the first time ever I will be rooting for tito

[quote comment=”322059″][quote comment=”321864″]I can’t wait for that card. Penn’s fighting, Wandy’s fighting, and the last fight for The Huntington Beach Bad Boy is on this card. Can’t wait.[/quote]

dont be suprised if foul mouth, manipulates this as a swing bout, if Machida wins it will definitely be televised one last slap in titos face but if tito can some how pull off the win it will not be televised, for the first time ever I will be rooting for tito[/quote]

It’s going to be televised either way.

what the hell is this guy on abuot - he got wasted - jabbed at will. he should concentrate on avenging his previous losses - tito, vitor, hendo, crocop - but i dont think he could beat any of them .

page/chuck 2 wasnt a lucky punch.
He threw the punch, it landed, chuck got KTFO.
Simple.

[quote comment=”321935″][quote comment=”321833″]i hope the rematch is for the belt as id love to see chuck wanderlei in a 5 rounder

its hard to judge how good rampage is

in his 3 fights back

eastman isnt exactly a top level fighter probably not even top 20 205

chuck was a single lucky punch

he did look good against dangrous dan and his cardio did impress

in other divisions there seem to be very few/no serious threats to the champion

BJ just sherk hes way above the others

GSP fitch and possibly BJ

silva hendo possibly GSP possibly BJ

NOG… ??? 205ers steppingup

but rampage could easily lose to anyone in the top 10 as the competition is so fierce

chuck looks set to face winner of rampage forrest as long as he first gets past shogun so i guess theres a good chance of chuck getting a title shot around september time and could then possibly face wandy on NYE[/quote]
a lucky punch???what about there 1st fight face it chuck is done he is an over-rated bum if he gets a title shot b4 a bunch of worthy people i will be done wit the ufc…why cant chuck jus accept the fact that he isnt a top 5 maybe top 10 205 anymore,,,go away chuck ur done go fight kimbo or tank[/quote]

Dude, chuck is pretty damn good, he just had a bad run, dont know what the hell ur on about.

keith jardine gettin his teeth knocked out i see it now

[quote comment=”322228″][quote comment=”321935″][quote comment=”321833″]i hope the rematch is for the belt as id love to see chuck wanderlei in a 5 rounder

its hard to judge how good rampage is

in his 3 fights back

eastman isnt exactly a top level fighter probably not even top 20 205

chuck was a single lucky punch

he did look good against dangrous dan and his cardio did impress

in other divisions there seem to be very few/no serious threats to the champion

BJ just sherk hes way above the others

GSP fitch and possibly BJ

silva hendo possibly GSP possibly BJ

NOG… ??? 205ers steppingup

but rampage could easily lose to anyone in the top 10 as the competition is so fierce

chuck looks set to face winner of rampage forrest as long as he first gets past shogun so i guess theres a good chance of chuck getting a title shot around september time and could then possibly face wandy on NYE[/quote]
a lucky punch???what about there 1st fight face it chuck is done he is an over-rated bum if he gets a title shot b4 a bunch of worthy people i will be done wit the ufc…why cant chuck jus accept the fact that he isnt a top 5 maybe top 10 205 anymore,,,go away chuck ur done go fight kimbo or tank[/quote]

Dude, chuck is pretty damn good, he just had a bad run, dont know what the hell ur on about.[/quote]
Both these guys are wrong… pple always take it to the extreme.. Lucky Punch? Whatever, QRJ is the man and he specifically trained for that move. Great shot end of!!!

And Chuck is not over-rated, he just fell off the top, a place where many pple get comfortable and lazy. He had beaten every contender for his belt until Rampage took it. Now the division is stacked again I think Chuck is back. He still has one of the best takedown defenses in MMA and his reach and punching style mixed with his KO power makes him a threat to ANYONE!!

Oh yeh Wandi… Damn I was kinda looking forward to seeing him at 185, I think Wandi really does want to be fighting the big dogs. Proper gamer! Love that guy!

[quote comment=”322278″][quote comment=”322228″][quote comment=”321935″][quote comment=”321833″]i hope the rematch is for the belt as id love to see chuck wanderlei in a 5 rounder

its hard to judge how good rampage is

in his 3 fights back

eastman isnt exactly a top level fighter probably not even top 20 205

chuck was a single lucky punch

he did look good against dangrous dan and his cardio did impress

in other divisions there seem to be very few/no serious threats to the champion

BJ just sherk hes way above the others

GSP fitch and possibly BJ

silva hendo possibly GSP possibly BJ

NOG… ??? 205ers steppingup

but rampage could easily lose to anyone in the top 10 as the competition is so fierce

chuck looks set to face winner of rampage forrest as long as he first gets past shogun so i guess theres a good chance of chuck getting a title shot around september time and could then possibly face wandy on NYE[/quote]
a lucky punch???what about there 1st fight face it chuck is done he is an over-rated bum if he gets a title shot b4 a bunch of worthy people i will be done wit the ufc…why cant chuck jus accept the fact that he isnt a top 5 maybe top 10 205 anymore,,,go away chuck ur done go fight kimbo or tank[/quote]

Dude, chuck is pretty damn good, he just had a bad run, dont know what the hell ur on about.[/quote]
Both these guys are wrong… pple always take it to the extreme.. Lucky Punch? Whatever, QRJ is the man and he specifically trained for that move. Great shot end of!!!

And Chuck is not over-rated, he just fell off the top, a place where many pple get comfortable and lazy. He had beaten every contender for his belt until Rampage took it. Now the division is stacked again I think Chuck is back. He still has one of the best takedown defenses in MMA and his reach and punching style mixed with his KO power makes him a threat to ANYONE!![/quote]

Well put ToeLock’…I agree 100%..

I dont know how anyone could call a punch that KO’s someone “Lucky”..

When you punch someone you intend to do damage, you intend to KO your opponant..So when Rampage countered Chucks body-shot, He was punching with the intent of connecting…Definetly not “lucky”….(IMO) there is no such thing as a “lucky punch” in MMa…

And like that dude said’. What about the first time Chuck/Rampage fought….
….Was it “luck” that made Hack throw in the towel, to get the ref to stop Rampage from caving chucks face in???

I am, and always will be a fan of both Chuck and Rampage, but if either fighter got over-rated I would say it, and Chuck is NOT over-rated.

Like I said, I agree 100% with what ToeLock said..

to say chuck is done and isnt top 10 is laughable.
to real fans he is definitely still top 5

by your reckoning is GSP not title worthy and not top 10 as serra caught him with a lucky punch

perhaps calling them lucky punches is a bit harsh on QRJ and serra but against a guy as dangerous as GSP or chuck it is incredibly fortunate to get an early KO

if chuck who has possibly been the most dominant ufc champion in history is done after getting caught by QRJ and having an off night against jardine (who is far more dangerous and way further up the rankings than most people including top brass at ufc seem to give him credit for)

then what about poor wanderlei whos on a 3 fight losing steak is he even in your top 20
not only has he lost to a guy who is “done”
but he also got beat by a guy from a lower weight division
and another guy who came to the ufc and got destroyed by kongo and gonzaga

poor wanderlei had better have the undertaker on standby if he ever got in the ring with QRJ even tho hes already brutally knocked him out ….twice

its fortunate your opinion is not important or rampage would never be in the ufc in the first place

I think wanderlei only wants to move down to 185 lb if Henderson wins the belt from Anderson. People want to say Chuck is wander lei’s nemesis….but that isnt true.

Wanderlei’s real nemesis is Hendo. They each hold a win over the other. Hedndo is the only person I recall every KO wanderlei.

Wanderlei vs. Jardine added to the May 24th event will be GREAT.
No one is taking the title from Rampage so Wandy vs. Chuck will have to be a 3 rounder next December….I owuld bet big Bucks on wanderlei defeating chuck in the rematch.

Cheers Stagger-Lee…. Exactly… I couldn’t be assed to go into detail for someone who obviously doesn’t look at the big picture, but you descripbed the “Lucky Punch” Scenario spot on IMO… There is no such thing as a lucky one! Unless it was me throwing it at Chuck lol…Then it would have been a miracle..

You sometimes have to wonder about motives of some pples comments on the internet, or how much they really know about the sport and its fighters.

Even if i hate a fighter… I’m not going to lie to myself and say that he sucks when he doesn’t… Like I can’t stand Matt Hughes, But there is NO denying that guy was a Machine when he rained supreme, a bad loss at the tailend of his career does not undo all his acheivments and he is still a decent fighter…

[quote comment=”322374″]I think wanderlei only wants to move down to 185 lb if Henderson wins the belt from Anderson. People want to say Chuck is wander lei’s nemesis….but that isnt true.

Wanderlei’s real nemesis is Hendo. They each hold a win over the other. Hedndo is the only person I recall every KO wanderlei.

Wanderlei vs. Jardine added to the May 24th event will be GREAT.
No one is taking the title from Rampage so Wandy vs. Chuck will have to be a 3 rounder next December….I owuld bet big Bucks on wanderlei defeating chuck in the rematch.[/quote]

Don’t forget about Cro Cop’s KO over wanderlei via head kick.

[quote post=”5046″]Wanderlei’s real nemesis is Hendo. They each hold a win over the other. Hedndo is the only person I recall every KO wanderlei.[/quote]

I agree Wandy/Hendo have more of a nemesis build to them fighting then Chuck/Wandy…

But you must have seen when Cro Cop KTFO Wanderlei in 2006 PrideFC open weight tournament….That was When Cro Cop was his “old self”. Cro Cop then went on to beat Josh Barnett in the same night….

..But you have to give it to Wanderlei..He was the only non-HW fighter to join the open-weight tournament…Also Wandy did make it to the semi-finals..

You know who Rampage’s kryptonite is right? Wanderlei has beat him down the two times that they fought in Pride. I would like to see a rematch. He needs to avenge those losses since Wandy put a good beating on him during their last fight in 2004. If you don’t remember, Rampage was KO’d via knees strikes and he was hanging on the ropes.

Remember Vitor was in the works with the UFC, maybe Vitor’s return will be against Silva. Dude if Vitor of old and Wandy of a few years ago show up damn fight of the night fo sure

Wanderlei looks sleepy in that picture.

It’s Jardine and he will probably win.

[quote comment=”322379″]Cheers Stagger-Lee…. Exactly… I couldn’t be assed to go into detail for someone who obviously doesn’t look at the big picture, but you descripbed the “Lucky Punch” Scenario spot on IMO… There is no such thing as a lucky one! Unless it was me throwing it at Chuck lol…Then it would have been a miracle..

You sometimes have to wonder about motives of some pples comments on the internet, or how much they really know about the sport and its fighters.

Even if i hate a fighter… I’m not going to lie to myself and say that he sucks when he doesn’t… Like I can’t stand Matt Hughes, But there is NO denying that guy was a Machine when he rained supreme, a bad loss at the tailend of his career does not undo all his acheivments and he is still a decent fighter…[/quote]

thanks ToeLock.

It seems like we agree agian…I dont know why people post nonsense..(maybe to get a rise out of someone?)

I also have the same mind-set as you on giving a fighter respect, when respect is deserved..And Matt “Hughesus Christ” is a perfect example…
I hate his personality and the way he carries himself, BUT I cant say he is not a great fighter..or I couldn’t say he is not worthy of being considered the most dominant WW in UFC history, because he IS..and he earned that right..

But I CAN call him an arrogant punk-ass, conseated bitch [that is a great fighter and former Champ]..

Cheers! ToeLock.

[quote comment=”322374″]I think wanderlei only wants to move down to 185 lb if Henderson wins the belt from Anderson. People want to say Chuck is wander lei’s nemesis….but that isnt true.

Wanderlei’s real nemesis is Hendo. They each hold a win over the other. Hedndo is the only person I recall every KO wanderlei.

Wanderlei vs. Jardine added to the May 24th event will be GREAT.
No one is taking the title from Rampage so Wandy vs. Chuck will have to be a 3 rounder next December….I owuld bet big Bucks on wanderlei defeating chuck in the rematch.[/quote]

cro cop knocked wandi out

[quote comment=”322374″]I think wanderlei only wants to move down to 185 lb if Henderson wins the belt from Anderson. People want to say Chuck is wander lei’s nemesis….but that isnt true.

Wanderlei’s real nemesis is Hendo. They each hold a win over the other. Hedndo is the only person I recall every KO wanderlei.

Wanderlei vs. Jardine added to the May 24th event will be GREAT.
No one is taking the title from Rampage so Wandy vs. Chuck will have to be a 3 rounder next December….I owuld bet big Bucks on wanderlei defeating chuck in the rematch.[/quote]

Cro Cop KO’d Wanderlei in the fight before Hendo KO’d him, but a couple people already mentioned that.

BUT, back in the day at UFC Brazil, Vitor Belfort KO’d Silva in one of the greatest barrage of punches ever.

When Chuck smashes Shogun “roid” Rua, he will most likely face Griffin or Rampage, so don”t know about that Wandi. You cwazy o’ wad? lol

has to be jardine with maybe the long shot being victor belfort, i would have to say jardine though,

UFC fans are so fickle… i can’t believe how much hate there is for Chuck on here. Only 12 months ago he was unstoppable and could take on the world.

To say he’s washed up is one of the most stupid things i’ve ever heard. He got caught by a top class striker in Ramapage and got beaten by a smart and well executed gameplan (Jardine).

There is a lot of talent in the L/HW and chuck is right in the thick of title shake up.

[quote comment=”322393″][quote comment=”322374″]I think wanderlei only wants to move down to 185 lb if Henderson wins the belt from Anderson. People want to say Chuck is wander lei’s nemesis….but that isnt true.

Wanderlei’s real nemesis is Hendo. They each hold a win over the other. Hedndo is the only person I recall every KO wanderlei.

Wanderlei vs. Jardine added to the May 24th event will be GREAT.
No one is taking the title from Rampage so Wandy vs. Chuck will have to be a 3 rounder next December….I owuld bet big Bucks on wanderlei defeating chuck in the rematch.[/quote]

Don’t forget about Cro Cop’s KO over wanderlei via head kick.[/quote]

Ok, let me revise my statement…I cant ever recall wanderlei being KO by someone in his own weight class (Besides Hendo)

[quote comment=”322481″][quote comment=”322374″]I think wanderlei only wants to move down to 185 lb if Henderson wins the belt from Anderson. People want to say Chuck is wander lei’s nemesis….but that isnt true.

Wanderlei’s real nemesis is Hendo. They each hold a win over the other. Hedndo is the only person I recall every KO wanderlei.

Wanderlei vs. Jardine added to the May 24th event will be GREAT.
No one is taking the title from Rampage so Wandy vs. Chuck will have to be a 3 rounder next December….I owuld bet big Bucks on wanderlei defeating chuck in the rematch.[/quote]

Cro Cop KO’d Wanderlei in the fight before Hendo KO’d him, but a couple people already mentioned that.

BUT, back in the day at UFC Brazil, Vitor Belfort KO’d Silva in one of the greatest barrage of punches ever.[/quote]

WOW…that completely slipped my mind… I forgot all about the Vitor match… Thanks VM

War Machine will be added to the UFC 84 card. No opponent was mentioned. Cant wait to see this kid BRING IT again!

It looks like Verra will face Werdum at UFC 85. Mania, mentioned this yesterday and it looks to be close to being made official. This will be a good fight.

Y does Dana always run his mouyth and then contradict himself?

Dana said:
Arlovski was going to get a title shot if he beat Werdum. that was a LIE

Werdum was said tobe next in line for Nogueira….now it looks like that was a lie.

Maybe its just me, but I would love to see a more credible person running the UFC. I am sick of being lied to by the president of the company, who constantly contradicts himself.

If he isnt going to give some one a title shot for sure, maybe Dana should just keep quite… WTF

With Werdum facing Verra, it looks like Nogueira wont be defending the title anytime soon. There is no one even worthy of challenging him for the title….Who could theygive the title shot to…Mir? NMot deserving of a shot, ne3eds another big win, and iwould like itto be against Sylvia.

What in the world happened to the heavyweight division?

[quote comment=”322493″]UFC fans are so fickle… i can’t believe how much hate there is for Chuck on here. Only 12 months ago he was unstoppable and could take on the world.

To say he’s washed up is one of the most stupid things i’ve ever heard. He got caught by a top class striker in Ramapage and got beaten by a smart and well executed gameplan (Jardine).

There is a lot of talent in the L/HW and chuck is right in the thick of title shake up.[/quote]
Sense personified!

[quote comment=”321935″][quote comment=”321833″]i hope the rematch is for the belt as id love to see chuck wanderlei in a 5 rounder

its hard to judge how good rampage is

in his 3 fights back

eastman isnt exactly a top level fighter probably not even top 20 205

chuck was a single lucky punch

he did look good against dangrous dan and his cardio did impress

in other divisions there seem to be very few/no serious threats to the champion

BJ just sherk hes way above the others

GSP fitch and possibly BJ

silva hendo possibly GSP possibly BJ

NOG… ??? 205ers steppingup

but rampage could easily lose to anyone in the top 10 as the competition is so fierce

chuck looks set to face winner of rampage forrest as long as he first gets past shogun so i guess theres a good chance of chuck getting a title shot around september time and could then possibly face wandy on NYE[/quote]
a lucky punch???what about there 1st fight face it chuck is done he is an over-rated bum if he gets a title shot b4 a bunch of worthy people i will be done wit the ufc…why cant chuck jus accept the fact that he isnt a top 5 maybe top 10 205 anymore,,,go away chuck ur done go fight kimbo or tank[/quote]

Dude, you’re all fired up like Chuck stole your girlfriend! It’s time for you to take your prozac and move on with your life, she wasn’t that great!

Chuck now owns Wandy and if and when they fight again Chuck will send him to the hospital with a more sound beating!

I thought he was dropping a weight class? I sort of like it when fighters don’t jump around from class to class.

i hope rampage keeps his word and is done fighting that bum chuck..why should he keep beating down chuck till chucky gets lucky and wins 1 that isnt fair to rampage…hey chuck if u beat rua,and thiago silva and jardine again then ill say u deserve another shot but if u jus beat rua and then get one well then i guess ur giveing dana head is workin for ya

[quote comment=”322812″]i hope rampage keeps his word and is done fighting that bum chuck..why should he keep beating down chuck till chucky gets lucky and wins 1 that isnt fair to rampage…hey chuck if u beat rua,and thiago silva and jardine again then ill say u deserve another shot but if u jus beat rua and then get one well then i guess ur giveing dana head is workin for ya[/quote]
HATER!

[quote comment=”321864″]I can’t wait for that card. Penn’s fighting, Wandy’s fighting, and the last fight for The Huntington Beach Bad Boy is on this card. Can’t wait.[/quote]
Yeah I hear ya punishment, this card is looking to be almost 82 quality, ALMOST I said.

Regarding Wandi, I am very pleased with how it looks like this will be playing out. Wandi will stay at 205 thank god, THAT is the best weight class he can compete in, he dominated it in Pride for years for god’s sake why move to MW? Much better match ups and there are many more people I would like to see him destroy like were already named….Jardine, Houstan, and eventually fighting Chuck again would be cool.

wanderlei messed up rampage twice. dont 4get chuck got his ass kicked in pride aswell by rampage and he will kick his ass again i think it will be wanderlei vs jackson for the belt. that was not the same wanderlei fighting chuck my 1st thought was he got payed to fix the fight. when silva knocked chuck down if that was in pride silva would have danced on his head,but he let him back up maybe he was scared that he would get DQ. Pride is taking over.anybody think randy will except the challenge from nogueira

[quote comment=”323868″]wanderlei messed up rampage twice. dont 4get chuck got his ass kicked in pride aswell by rampage and he will kick his ass again i think it will be wanderlei vs jackson for the belt. that was not the same wanderlei fighting chuck my 1st thought was he got payed to fix the fight. when silva knocked chuck down if that was in pride silva would have danced on his head,but he let him back up maybe he was scared that he would get DQ. Pride is taking over.anybody think randy will except the challenge from nogueira[/quote]

Unfortunatley I do not see Randy accepting a fight against Nogueira nor do I think he will ever be seen fighting in the UFC again……I hope I am wrong, but I just dont see Randy coming back with his tail between his legs. Especially not at this point in his career. Looking back, I wish Nogueira would have been awarded a match up against Randy immediately. Instead of Fightin gonzaga, Dana should have matched Randy up with nogueira back then….. Now I dont think we will ever get to see this dream fight.