I love it.

this is the worst scenario for werdum: a tall crazy striker with great wrestling and ju-jitsu

vera all the way

Oh yeah…this will be a good one. Can’t wait.

WAR VERA!!

werdum is for real though. but im still rooting for brandon on this one…

VERA VS NOG will be a blast.

I wonder if this means that the UFC is going to give the next title shot to Arlovski. Who else would they give it too? Winner of Kongo and Herring, doubtful. This would be a good bargainning chip for the UFC to play to get their week division back on track. If they ever had any hopes that Randy was coming back they surely realize now that he signed that contract with HDnet, that he is never coming back. I can see this unfolding. Dana has to do something to get the HW division going again. OH WAIT!! Nog will be on the next TUF season as a coach with Sylvia. Could you imagine how boring that would be.

WAR VERA!

No way Vera wins this fight. Gonzaga would have crushed Vera.

[quote comment="322460"]No way Vera wins this fight. Gonzaga would have crushed Vera.[/quote]

do you really know what you’re saying??

[quote comment="322464"][quote comment="322460"]No way Vera wins this fight. Gonzaga would have crushed Vera.[/quote]

do you really know what you’re saying??[/quote]

Gonzaga is way worse than everybody thinks he is.. (I used to love him) is conditioning is ridiculous.

No way verdum can win this one..

It looks like people are thinking that this will be an easy fight for Brandon Vera. I actually think the opposite. I think that Werdum should be the favorite – if he’s an underdog, I’d definitely bet on him. What does Vera have to offer to Werdum that he hasn’t already seen? He’s faced a great striker in Arlovski, he’s faced the best BJJ guy in the HW divsion = Big Nog, he’s faced big strong guys, and he’s faced lighter, faster fighters such as Alistair Overeem.

I think that way too many bought into the Brandon Vera hype, including himself, because he came into the UFC and had a 4 fight win streak. But seriously now, look at who those fights were against – Fabiano Scherner, Justin Eilers, Assuerio Silva, and Frank Mir in his 3rd fight after the accident when he wasn’t yet back to his old form. Then Vera faced Timmay and got dominated, he did nothing in that fight. Werdum has faced tougher competition and has become very well rounded since training at Chute Box.

With the current state of the HW and LHW division, Brandon Vera will never be more than someone on the brink of being top 5.

This will be a better fight for Vera than Tim was. I think Vera will get back on his winning ways with Werdum and show Nog a beating he won’t come back to win.

great co main event, maybe if kongo now wins he will get his shot, either that or they are waiting on randy, if they do give title shot to winner of the match the fight wouldn’t happen till maybe oct or beyond that is a long time

Perfect match up for vera to show his skills – its gonna be a war but i think werdum takes this one, especially if vera breaks his hand again

werdum is going to take this one to the ground… no way he’s gonna stand up with vera… therefore boring fight.. therefore werdum by decision or submission. honestly not that excited about this matchup. but if werdum wants to trade (hopefully), he’s going to get KTFO.. another highlight reel in the catalogues.

Vera is an idiot for not moving down to LHW. His reason was that he didn’t want to diet and lose the weight! He has a LHW frame with a gut. Come on man, I think that Vera is a little guilty of the BJ Penn syndrome (early BJ, not now) of not training as hard as he should and relying on his natural ability. I love Vera, think he is a great figher, but I just think he would be a major problem at LHW.
Out.

yeah he will lay on his back and wave Vera in just like he tried to do with AA, but when Brandon forces him to stand he will get knocked out by a knee! Vera KO 2nd round

[quote comment="322470"]It looks like people are thinking that this will be an easy fight for Brandon Vera. I actually think the opposite. I think that Werdum should be the favorite – if he’s an underdog, I’d definitely bet on him. What does Vera have to offer to Werdum that he hasn’t already seen? He’s faced a great striker in Arlovski, he’s faced the best BJJ guy in the HW divsion = Big Nog, he’s faced big strong guys, and he’s faced lighter, faster fighters such as Alistair Overeem.

I think that way too many bought into the Brandon Vera hype, including himself, because he came into the UFC and had a 4 fight win streak. But seriously now, look at who those fights were against – Fabiano Scherner, Justin Eilers, Assuerio Silva, and Frank Mir in his 3rd fight after the accident when he wasn’t yet back to his old form. Then Vera faced Timmay and got dominated, he did nothing in that fight. Werdum has faced tougher competition and has become very well rounded since training at Chute Box.

With the current state of the HW and LHW division, Brandon Vera will never be more than someone on the brink of being top 5.[/quote]

ViolentMike: Bravo! Bravo! Good post. I think that Werdum should be the favorite, I also think that Werdum will be the most improved Hw of next year. Werdum did the best possible thing for his career…..Moved to Chute Box. Chute Box wiull help his game a lot. He will continue to become a better striker and he is already a monster on the ground. Werdum move toChute Box already paid dividends…in the Gonzaga fight, another year of training with those animals and he will be a very well rounded HW.

I like Verra also, and this will be a good opportunity for him, since he is small and Werdum is no Monster either, it will be a physically fair fight. I expect this fight to be very exciting and I expect it to be fought both in the stand up and on the ground as well. I am very much looking forward to this fight.

Cant wait to find out who Brock and Marcus davis opponents will be for this card…. This will be the best international card so Far. I think that the UFC is sick of loosing money in Europe and now they are deciding to increase the quality of the European cards as well.

[quote comment="322503"]werdum is going to take this one to the ground… no way he’s gonna stand up with vera… therefore boring fight.. therefore werdum by decision or submission. honestly not that excited about this matchup. but if werdum wants to trade (hopefully), he’s going to get KTFO.. another highlight reel in the catalogues.[/quote]

So because the fight will go to the ground, in your oppinion that automatically makes it a boring fight? Maybe the UFC isnt for you….u should try out K-1

Ive managed to translate one of the guestions from a cro cop interview…lol

Q: Mirko, how many fights and how long until you make your triumphant return to the UFC.

A: There is a zero percent chance I will ever fight in that crappy cage thing again. Didnt you see what happened!? I got pwnt by a couple cans that I would have easily destroyed in the PRIDE ring. I mean first this grape ape looking gonzaga dude steals my signature move and uses it on me! Then this beast named Kongo kneed my nutbag into submission. Seriously….I cant fight like that. I need to be fighting ordinary looking asian and eastern european men that will simply stand there and wait for me to kick their heads. The UFC and their silly “Octagon” can go to hell! Next question?

[quote comment="322470"]It looks like people are thinking that this will be an easy fight for Brandon Vera. I actually think the opposite. I think that Werdum should be the favorite – if he’s an underdog, I’d definitely bet on him. What does Vera have to offer to Werdum that he hasn’t already seen? He’s faced a great striker in Arlovski, he’s faced the best BJJ guy in the HW divsion = Big Nog, he’s faced big strong guys, and he’s faced lighter, faster fighters such as Alistair Overeem.

I think that way too many bought into the Brandon Vera hype, including himself, because he came into the UFC and had a 4 fight win streak. But seriously now, look at who those fights were against – Fabiano Scherner, Justin Eilers, Assuerio Silva, and Frank Mir in his 3rd fight after the accident when he wasn’t yet back to his old form. Then Vera faced Timmay and got dominated, he did nothing in that fight. Werdum has faced tougher competition and has become very well rounded since training at Chute Box.

With the current state of the HW and LHW division, Brandon Vera will never be more than someone on the brink of being top 5.[/quote]
I couldn’t agree more. I hope Werdum is a big underdog so I can win some big bucks on the fight!

Hey John, betus has almost every fight for UFC 82 on there!

[quote comment="322517"][quote comment="322503"]werdum is going to take this one to the ground… no way he’s gonna stand up with vera… therefore boring fight.. therefore werdum by decision or submission. honestly not that excited about this matchup. but if werdum wants to trade (hopefully), he’s going to get KTFO.. another highlight reel in the catalogues.[/quote]

So because the fight will go to the ground, in your oppinion that automatically makes it a boring fight? Maybe the UFC isnt for you….u should try out K-1[/quote]

hey man… no need to get all bitchy.. i just think slow, methodical grappling can get boring.. what are you? the judge who decides who can watch the UFC?

BAD MATCH UP FOR WERDUM!!!!!!!!
Vera has great wrestling, great submissions and crazy crazy KNEES
I see a knee to the temple of WERDUM when going for a take down, and then it will set up a fucking great match up between VERA and BIG NOG

I don’t see how the winner of this fight puts him “atop the weight class as a top challenger” even if it is Werdum. Werdum is 1-1 in the UFC and Vera hasn’t shown didly since his return. I’ve been saying it for awhile, the No. 1 contender is clearly Kongo by the way they are setting him up. They want him to crush Herring (which he will) so he can get a title shot with Nog when Randy the pussy, turns it down. After that I think Frank Mir vs. AA winner of that takes on winner of Kongo/Nog for the title. Vera and Werdum are still a ways back there.

Damn the HW division is sad. Win 1 fight and you get a title shot? If Werdum wins I can maybe see him getting a shot at Nog. If Vera wins I think he should have to win at least one more fight before he gets a shot. Give Arlovski the next shot if he wins his next fight(good way to get him to resign).

i think this could be a great matchup.

wouldn’t discredit Vera for the Tim fight. Vera is marginally a LHW and Tim is a Superheavyweight……a fight where there was pushing and shoving more than fighting ain’t the fault of the smaller man.

[quote comment="322557"]Hey John, betus has almost every fight for UFC 82 on there![/quote]

I am so tempted to look at the odds, but If I start thinking about it this soon, I will change my mind a million times by the time next weekend rolls around.

VM: U still got that superbowl money in your Betus account? If so, time to build that account up and what better way to do so then UFC 82.

[quote comment="322566"][quote comment="322517"][quote comment="322503"]werdum is going to take this one to the ground… no way he’s gonna stand up with vera… therefore boring fight.. therefore werdum by decision or submission. honestly not that excited about this matchup. but if werdum wants to trade (hopefully), he’s going to get KTFO.. another highlight reel in the catalogues.[/quote]

So because the fight will go to the ground, in your oppinion that automatically makes it a boring fight? Maybe the UFC isnt for you….u should try out K-1[/quote]

hey man… no need to get all bitchy.. i just think slow, methodical grappling can get boring.. what are you? the judge who decides who can watch the UFC?[/quote]

I just dont understand why so many mma fans hate the grappling aspect of a fight. I think grappling can be very exciting, especially when some one is punching you in the face while attempting submissions. Of Course some ground fights are terribly boring (for example Sherk), but 2 high skilled ground technitions like Werdum and Verra should make for a very exciting fight.

Keep in mind that Werdum’s striking has progressed since joining Chute Box, and by the time June rolls around it will be even better. I expect this fight to be all over the place….Stand up, Clinch, Ground…… I dont understand why you think that this will be a boring match up.

and YES, u have my permission to watch UFC 82! lol

[quote comment="322609"]I don’t see how the winner of this fight puts him “atop the weight class as a top challenger” even if it is Werdum. Werdum is 1-1 in the UFC and Vera hasn’t shown didly since his return. I’ve been saying it for awhile, the No. 1 contender is clearly Kongo by the way they are setting him up. They want him to crush Herring (which he will) so he can get a title shot with Nog when Randy the pussy, turns it down. After that I think Frank Mir vs. AA winner of that takes on winner of Kongo/Nog for the title. Vera and Werdum are still a ways back there.[/quote]

yea.. kongo will destroy Herring. how about kongo vs. vera? pshh that should be a slugfest

it must suck for some of these guys in the ufc.”you’ve got a title shot..no wait you don’t”

This seems like a good battle. This should be a closer fight than Vera – Sylvia or AA – Werdum. Vera is going to need to step his game up. An injury could call this fight. I think Vera will take it. Although Werdum being at his new camp could have a huge impact on the HW division.

[quote comment="322630"]i think this could be a great matchup.

wouldn’t discredit Vera for the Tim fight. Vera is marginally a LHW and Tim is a Superheavyweight……a fight where there was pushing and shoving more than fighting ain’t the fault of the smaller man.[/quote]

I agree. The fact that Werdum is close to Verra’s size is what makes me excited about this match up. Werdum is a tough and skilled guy who is only getting better and Verra gets to fight someone who he isnt Physically Dwarfed by (Sylvia). I think this
is a great co-main event, to compliment the Liddell vs. Shogun match.

Throw in a Brock Lesner fight as well as Marcus davis facing his 1st top 10 opponent and this makes for a great card, not to mention my Birthday is a day later (June 8th). What a great Birthday it will be if Shogun returns to his old self!

[quote comment="322691"][quote comment="322566"][quote comment="322517"][quote comment="322503"]werdum is going to take this one to the ground… no way he’s gonna stand up with vera… therefore boring fight.. therefore werdum by decision or submission. honestly not that excited about this matchup. but if werdum wants to trade (hopefully), he’s going to get KTFO.. another highlight reel in the catalogues.[/quote]

So because the fight will go to the ground, in your oppinion that automatically makes it a boring fight? Maybe the UFC isnt for you….u should try out K-1[/quote]

hey man… no need to get all bitchy.. i just think slow, methodical grappling can get boring.. what are you? the judge who decides who can watch the UFC?[/quote]

I just dont understand why so many mma fans hate the grappling aspect of a fight. I think grappling can be very exciting, especially when some one is punching you in the face while attempting submissions. Of Course some ground fights are terribly boring (for example Sherk), but 2 high skilled ground technitions like Werdum and Verra should make for a very exciting fight.

Keep in mind that Werdum’s striking has progressed since joining Chute Box, and by the time June rolls around it will be even better. I expect this fight to be all over the place….Stand up, Clinch, Ground…… I dont understand why you think that this will be a boring match up.

and YES, u have my permission to watch UFC 82! lol[/quote]

Dude get over yourself, that guy was right you have an arrogant attitude.

How did Vera earn this matchup? Oh wait, he didn’t whatsoever… he’ll be done as a heavyweight soon enough. This is obviously the best matchup you could throw at him, it’s someone who’s closer to a title shot, and one of the smallest heavyweights in the UFC. I see this as babying Vera; again, he definitely doesn’t deserve this fight because it leaps him up in the title shot order. I’m not saying it’s not going to be a good scrap, but I am saying that Vera is incredibly overhyped and sooner or later he’s gonna realize he can’t compete in the heavyweight division. I wish it would have been Brock, I really do.

[quote post="5047"]Vera is an idiot for not moving down to LHW.[/quote]

Dude you might think its fine to just quit but these guys will never quit

[quote comment="322686"][quote comment="322557"]Hey John, betus has almost every fight for UFC 82 on there![/quote]

I am so tempted to look at the odds, but If I start thinking about it this soon, I will change my mind a million times by the time next weekend rolls around.

VM: U still got that superbowl money in your Betus account? If so, time to build that account up and what better way to do so then UFC 82.[/quote]

YES I DO! I jumped on Hazelett early in case the odds start to change in his favor, I can’t picture too much money going on Kos at minus 500. I was actually just about to divy up my money amongst the fights, but I think I’ll take your advice and wait until the day before the PPV. Because I too can picture myself changing my mind. Plus the week of a PPV I really get into a lot more than I am right now. Although, next week is the week of the PPV.

Don’t believe the hype: Brandon Vera

Werdum takes the fight with a submission is my guess. Werdum gets a shot at Big Nog. If by some chance Vera takes the fight (he’s capable), I say Vera gets winner of Herring/Kongo, winner gets a shot.

The HW division could have some great fights on the horizon if Mr. Matchmaker keeps picking ‘em right. Big Nog, Werdum, Vera, Herring, Kongo, Mir, Lesnar, Gonzaga, O’Brien, and if they decide to stay, Sylvia and Arlovski. Some great combinations.

2008 has got some great fights on the way!!!

[quote post="5047"]I just dont understand why so many mma fans hate the grappling aspect of a fight. I think grappling can be very exciting, especially when some one is punching you in the face while attempting submissions. Of Course some ground fights are terribly boring (for example Sherk), but 2 high skilled ground technitions like Werdum and Verra should make for a very exciting fight.[/quote]
Oh god man, could not, repeat could NOT agree more. This is what i’m talking about. There is nothing better than a techniqual ground war, you can see everything going on, there are some many little things taht make a differnce from teh simplest tricks to get around somebodies guard, a good, and I mean a good ground war (ALA PARISYAN Vs NICK DIAZ) is some of the best fights ever, much rather see that than a Forrest/Bonner.

Regarding Vera/Werdum. This is a very exciting fight. I like Vera alot, he is becoming one of my favorite HWs. After the way he was unfazed by anything Tim threw at him when Vera had his broken hand, I gained a lot of respect for him, he took the loss well, and will come back stronger than ever, seems like a cool guy, not to arrogant like soem have said.

I also love how well rounded he is. He has real potential, I give advantage Werdum, but only becasue he has far more expirianced, Brandon is much earlier in his career.

I think Brandon will be so active on the ground, and he is pretty good, that it will make it much more difficult for Werdum to catch him then say AListar, and in teh stand up, I give Brandon the advantage, I’ll admite that Werdum is an animal and finsihing him is a different story.

I’m not gonna try to call this one but i’ll be rooting for Vera, he is exciting, well rounded, and has great potential.

The UFC website only has 20 guys listed as heavyweights and they include Dan Severn, Justin Eilers, Scott Junk, when have these guys fought last ? idk

[quote comment="322871"][quote comment="322686"][quote comment="322557"]Hey John, betus has almost every fight for UFC 82 on there![/quote]

I am so tempted to look at the odds, but If I start thinking about it this soon, I will change my mind a million times by the time next weekend rolls around.

VM: U still got that superbowl money in your Betus account? If so, time to build that account up and what better way to do so then UFC 82.[/quote]

YES I DO! I jumped on Hazelett early in case the odds start to change in his favor, I can’t picture too much money going on Kos at minus 500. I was actually just about to divy up my money amongst the fights, but I think I’ll take your advice and wait until the day before the PPV. Because I too can picture myself changing my mind. Plus the week of a PPV I really get into a lot more than I am right now. Although, next week is the week of the PPV.[/quote]

i like to wait and see how they look at the weigh ins first. that can tell you a lot about the state of mind/body a fighter is in.

Good matchup, I wish Arlovski sticks around and put him into the mix.

OKAY…somebody tell me why I can’t see Vera vs AA and Mir vs Werdum…..

it’s okay Dana…I’ll keep waiting for a response!!!

[quote comment="322470"]It looks like people are thinking that this will be an easy fight for Brandon Vera. I actually think the opposite. I think that Werdum should be the favorite – if he’s an underdog, I’d definitely bet on him. What does Vera have to offer to Werdum that he hasn’t already seen? He’s faced a great striker in Arlovski, he’s faced the best BJJ guy in the HW divsion = Big Nog, he’s faced big strong guys, and he’s faced lighter, faster fighters such as Alistair Overeem.

I think that way too many bought into the Brandon Vera hype, including himself, because he came into the UFC and had a 4 fight win streak. But seriously now, look at who those fights were against – Fabiano Scherner, Justin Eilers, Assuerio Silva, and Frank Mir in his 3rd fight after the accident when he wasn’t yet back to his old form. Then Vera faced Timmay and got dominated, he did nothing in that fight. Werdum has faced tougher competition and has become very well rounded since training at Chute Box.

With the current state of the HW and LHW division, Brandon Vera will never be more than someone on the brink of being top 5.[/quote]
Ya, he’s faced a great striker and great BJJ and faster fighters and wrestlers, but has he faced them all in one fighter? Vera is the whole package. He looked like shit against Sylvia, but he broke his hand early in the fight and if you consider the damage Sylvia can do to his opponents (Monson and Nog to name a few), Vera looked pretty much the same as he did at the start of the fight. I don’t think it will be a easy fight for either one of them, however I think Vera has the speed to out strike Werdum like AA did, only in more exciting fashion (at least I hope so)lol. With Vera’s superior wrestling, he should be able to keep the fight standing, yet if it goes to the ground the advantage goes to Werdum (even GG wanted no part of his BJJ). I think it will be a great fight either way.

[quote comment="322855"]How did Vera earn this matchup? Oh wait, he didn’t whatsoever… he’ll be done as a heavyweight soon enough. This is obviously the best matchup you could throw at him, it’s someone who’s closer to a title shot, and one of the smallest heavyweights in the UFC. I see this as babying Vera; again, he definitely doesn’t deserve this fight because it leaps him up in the title shot order. I’m not saying it’s not going to be a good scrap, but I am saying that Vera is incredibly overhyped and sooner or later he’s gonna realize he can’t compete in the heavyweight division. I wish it would have been Brock, I really do.[/quote]
To bad , the rest of us are sick of watching Vera destroy B level fighters in the first round. It’s time to up the competition a bit don’t you think, or should Vera go BACKWARDS and fight Eddie Sanchez. What part of 4-1 in the UFC doesn’t earn him a fight with a guy who is 1-1?

anyone else think that lesnar will fight eddie sanchez on the card or is it just me

[quote comment="323408"][quote comment="322855"]How did Vera earn this matchup? Oh wait, he didn’t whatsoever… he’ll be done as a heavyweight soon enough. This is obviously the best matchup you could throw at him, it’s someone who’s closer to a title shot, and one of the smallest heavyweights in the UFC. I see this as babying Vera; again, he definitely doesn’t deserve this fight because it leaps him up in the title shot order. I’m not saying it’s not going to be a good scrap, but I am saying that Vera is incredibly overhyped and sooner or later he’s gonna realize he can’t compete in the heavyweight division. I wish it would have been Brock, I really do.[/quote]
To bad , the rest of us are sick of watching Vera destroy B level fighters in the first round. It’s time to up the competition a bit don’t you think, or should Vera go BACKWARDS and fight Eddie Sanchez. What part of 4-1 in the UFC doesn’t earn him a fight with a guy who is 1-1?[/quote]

good point and good example of typical backwards logic that fanboys use on this site.

[quote comment="323250"][quote comment="322871"][quote comment="322686"][quote comment="322557"]Hey John, betus has almost every fight for UFC 82 on there![/quote]

I am so tempted to look at the odds, but If I start thinking about it this soon, I will change my mind a million times by the time next weekend rolls around.

VM: U still got that superbowl money in your Betus account? If so, time to build that account up and what better way to do so then UFC 82.[/quote]

YES I DO! I jumped on Hazelett early in case the odds start to change in his favor, I can’t picture too much money going on Kos at minus 500. I was actually just about to divy up my money amongst the fights, but I think I’ll take your advice and wait until the day before the PPV. Because I too can picture myself changing my mind. Plus the week of a PPV I really get into a lot more than I am right now. Although, next week is the week of the PPV.[/quote]

i like to wait and see how they look at the weigh ins first. that can tell you a lot about the state of mind/body a fighter is in.[/quote]

The Best betting advice I can offer is that when trying to make up your mind on what fights to bet during a certain event, you have to expect about 3-6 upsets. Dry to Identify what favorites are susceptible to being upset… then you identify what underdogs have good chances of pulling off an upset. THen I bet accordingly.

For example…. The boetsch vs. Heath fight: I bet Boetsch, but I didnt know anything about him. THe reason I took Boetsch
was simply because I felt that Heath was one of the favorites that was most sesceptible to being upset.

ViolentMike: Sometime around next wednesday I would like to start looking at the odds with you and we can pick each others brains about the event.

Off the top of my head…. I feel that either Koschek or Diego will get upset, or maybe both. I feel that Hazlett and Beilkheden are both worth $25 – $50 bets. You dont have to bet big on underdogs because even if you only bet $25….it will most likely win $100.,….. Mike, we will have to start analyzing the odds next week, we will come up with some solid bets.

I wont be betting the main event…thats for sure! That fight will be so exciting, that no need to have action on t he fight
because it will be ultra exciting anyway.

Since the Hazlett odds are so good, his value has to warrant a small wager on him. Before the odds change, I am going to lay something on Hazlett today. As for the rest of the fight… I will worry about that next week.[quote comment="322852"][quote comment="322691"][quote comment="322566"][quote comment="322517"][quote comment="322503"]werdum is going to take this one to the ground… no way he’s gonna stand up with vera… therefore boring fight.. therefore werdum by decision or submission. honestly not that excited about this matchup. but if werdum wants to trade (hopefully), he’s going to get KTFO.. another highlight reel in the catalogues.[/quote]

So because the fight will go to the ground, in your oppinion that automatically makes it a boring fight? Maybe the UFC isnt for you….u should try out K-1[/quote]

hey man… no need to get all bitchy.. i just think slow, methodical grappling can get boring.. what are you? the judge who decides who can watch the UFC?[/quote]

I just dont understand why so many mma fans hate the grappling aspect of a fight. I think grappling can be very exciting, especially when some one is punching you in the face while attempting submissions. Of Course some ground fights are terribly boring (for example Sherk), but 2 high skilled ground technitions like Werdum and Verra should make for a very exciting fight.

Keep in mind that Werdum’s striking has progressed since joining Chute Box, and by the time June rolls around it will be even better. I expect this fight to be all over the place….Stand up, Clinch, Ground…… I dont understand why you think that this will be a boring match up.

and YES, u have my permission to watch UFC 82! lol[/quote]

Dude get over yourself, that guy was right you have an arrogant attitude.[/quote]

Dude…. I was just kidding, and I dont value your oppinion at all, so please dont address me ever again!

[quote comment="323074"][quote post="5047"]I just dont understand why so many mma fans hate the grappling aspect of a fight. I think grappling can be very exciting, especially when some one is punching you in the face while attempting submissions. Of Course some ground fights are terribly boring (for example Sherk), but 2 high skilled ground technitions like Werdum and Verra should make for a very exciting fight.[/quote]
Oh god man, could not, repeat could NOT agree more. This is what i’m talking about. There is nothing better than a techniqual ground war, you can see everything going on, there are some many little things taht make a differnce from teh simplest tricks to get around somebodies guard, a good, and I mean a good ground war (ALA PARISYAN Vs NICK DIAZ) is some of the best fights ever, much rather see that than a Forrest/Bonner.[/quote]

Thank you anamoly. YOu are one of the bloggers who’s posts I look forward to reading and I value your oppinion a lot. We tend to disagree at times, but instead of just attcking each other we knowledagbly debate topics. keep doing what you do!

Kitsunex: U brought up a good point. I too like to see how fighters look at the weigh ins. It helps a lot when deciding who to wager on…. Very good point!

[quote post="5047"]ViolentMike: Sometime around next wednesday I would like to start looking at the odds with you and we can pick each others brains about the event.
Off the top of my head…. I feel that either Koschek or Diego will get upset, or maybe both. I feel that Hazlett and Beilkheden are both worth $25 – $50 bets. You dont have to bet big on underdogs because even if you only bet $25….it will most likely win $100.,….. Mike, we will have to start analyzing the odds next week, we will come up with some solid bets.
I wont be betting the main event…thats for sure! That fight will be so exciting, that no need to have action on t he fight
because it will be ultra exciting anyway.
Since the Hazlett odds are so good, his value has to warrant a small wager on him. Before the odds change, I am going to lay something on Hazlett today. As for the rest of the fight… I will worry about that next week.[/quote]

Sounds like a plan John. Did I ever email you my phone number?

vera will definately win this, werdum is good, but he was losing the gonzaga fight until fabricio caught him w/ knees (and that was one of gonzaga’s worst performances). no way fabricio wins this, my moneys on vera.

vera will win… go filipinos…. peace

werdum wins this one by sumition

chute boxe is way overrated.

werdum is never going to be as dynamic as vera, he will be overwhelmed. vera by ko.