Comments on: Spring Cleaning: Middleweight David Terrell released by the UFC http://mmamania.com/2008/02/21/spring-cleaning-middleweight-david-terrell-released-by-the-ufc/ UFC news, event schedules, fight analysis, Octagon predictions, UFC fighters and MMA thoughts Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:09:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Ryan http://mmamania.com/2008/02/21/spring-cleaning-middleweight-david-terrell-released-by-the-ufc/#comment-514694 Ryan Sat, 17 May 2008 05:36:37 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/21/spring-cleaning-middleweight-david-terrell-released-by-the-ufc/#comment-514694 He had trouble making weight, that's why he pulled out so many times He had trouble making weight, that’s why he pulled out so many times

]]> By: UFC middleweight division: The thick and thin at UFC blog for UFC news, results, videos, rumors, fights, pics and tickets — MMAmania.com http://mmamania.com/2008/02/21/spring-cleaning-middleweight-david-terrell-released-by-the-ufc/#comment-329366 UFC middleweight division: The thick and thin at UFC blog for UFC news, results, videos, rumors, fights, pics and tickets — MMAmania.com Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:42:38 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/21/spring-cleaning-middleweight-david-terrell-released-by-the-ufc/#comment-329366 [...] I don't fault the UFC for releasing David Terrell. The guy's list of injuries are an unfortunate punch line. [...] […] I don’t fault the UFC for releasing David Terrell. The guy’s list of injuries are an unfortunate punch line. […]

]]> By: Nine Duce http://mmamania.com/2008/02/21/spring-cleaning-middleweight-david-terrell-released-by-the-ufc/#comment-328057 Nine Duce Tue, 26 Feb 2008 03:56:07 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/21/spring-cleaning-middleweight-david-terrell-released-by-the-ufc/#comment-328057 [quote comment="324094"][quote comment="324035"][quote comment="323363"]i dont blame the ufc for cutting this guy but on a different topic dana may be a terrific visionary and business man but he has a problem when he is loosing so many fighters i think keep the big names for ppv and start getting the young talent pool fighting on hbo spike other sports networks on a regular basis. ufc may be the big dog now but without a minor league to replenish your talent pool and stars to sell tickets and it wont be the big dog for long. they bought pride and left the market open for someone to fill run a ufc japan or ufc europe maybe even franchise the market and have european champs move the stars around the world then it will be bigger than boxing...out[/quote] I'd have to agree. To many times this guy has pulled out of fights and just like anywhere else...you get let go if you don't do your job. As far as the young talent pool...it's in the WEC. I just don't understand why they (UFC brass) won't bring any of these guys up. They have some primetime talent there. I just don't see the conflict of interest. Put the TUF guys in WEC and move some WEC seasoned talent into the UFC. It would be the begining of a strong talent pool.[/quote] I don't want the UFC to start bringing in the young guns of the WEC into the UFC before they are ready. Because losing your first two fight in the UFC can be devastating to one's career. However, if they waited it out in the WEC a little longer to gain that ever so valuable experience, they will be better prepared for the step up in competition that the UFC offers. Looking at the divisions and champs: LHW - not a single LHW WEC fighter can have any sort of success in the UFC at this time. Doug Marshall and Brian Stann are their two top guys right now and they are no where near being well rounded yet. MW - Paulo Filho was though to be a Top 3 MW in the world, but after his performance against Chael Sonnen, he has many doubters. But still, Paulo is UFC worthy at this point in time. Chael had a 1-2 record in the UFC between UFC 55-60. He has shown great improvements since then, and the MW division is so weak right now, but Chael would get anywhere the top of the UFC MW division. WW - Carlos Condit period. However, I think that he should still wait at least a year to a year and a half before coming to the UFC. After that, he can be a contender within 2 years. LW - The UFC LW division is stacked. Varner couldn't make it in the UFC LW division and he is now champ in the WEC.[/quote] LHW,WW and LW-I have to aggree with you that these divisions are way too stacked right now but I don't think there's any competition for Condit right now so he's going to have to move up soon even though he'll be at the back of the line for top contenders. He doesn't want to Fedorize his career by dominating a bunch of no names sprinkled with some decision wins over a few top fighters. MW-Paulo Filho is ready. He didn't look good his last time out but even the best have their days. He said he is hesitant because he is good friends with Anderson Silva and doesn't want to fight him. The MW division needs a guy like Filho right now. [quote comment=”324094″][quote comment=”324035″][quote comment=”323363″]i dont blame the ufc for cutting this guy but on a different topic dana may be a terrific visionary and business man but he has a problem when he is loosing so many fighters i think keep the big names for ppv and start getting the young talent pool fighting on hbo spike other sports networks on a regular basis. ufc may be the big dog now but without a minor league to replenish your talent pool and stars to sell tickets and it wont be the big dog for long. they bought pride and left the market open for someone to fill run a ufc japan or ufc europe maybe even franchise the market and have european champs move the stars around the world then it will be bigger than boxing…out[/quote]
I’d have to agree. To many times this guy has pulled out of fights and just like anywhere else…you get let go if you don’t do your job. As far as the young talent pool…it’s in the WEC. I just don’t understand why they (UFC brass) won’t bring any of these guys up. They have some primetime talent there. I just don’t see the conflict of interest. Put the TUF guys in WEC and move some WEC seasoned talent into the UFC. It would be the begining of a strong talent pool.[/quote]

I don’t want the UFC to start bringing in the young guns of the WEC into the UFC before they are ready. Because losing your first two fight in the UFC can be devastating to one’s career. However, if they waited it out in the WEC a little longer to gain that ever so valuable experience, they will be better prepared for the step up in competition that the UFC offers.

Looking at the divisions and champs:

LHW - not a single LHW WEC fighter can have any sort of success in the UFC at this time. Doug Marshall and Brian Stann are their two top guys right now and they are no where near being well rounded yet.

MW - Paulo Filho was though to be a Top 3 MW in the world, but after his performance against Chael Sonnen, he has many doubters. But still, Paulo is UFC worthy at this point in time. Chael had a 1-2 record in the UFC between UFC 55-60. He has shown great improvements since then, and the MW division is so weak right now, but Chael would get anywhere the top of the UFC MW division.

WW - Carlos Condit period. However, I think that he should still wait at least a year to a year and a half before coming to the UFC. After that, he can be a contender within 2 years.

LW - The UFC LW division is stacked. Varner couldn’t make it in the UFC LW division and he is now champ in the WEC.[/quote]

LHW,WW and LW-I have to aggree with you that these divisions are way too stacked right now but I don’t think there’s any competition for Condit right now so he’s going to have to move up soon even though he’ll be at the back of the line for top contenders. He doesn’t want to Fedorize his career by dominating a bunch of no names sprinkled with some decision wins over a few top fighters.

MW-Paulo Filho is ready. He didn’t look good his last time out but even the best have their days. He said he is hesitant because he is good friends with Anderson Silva and doesn’t want to fight him. The MW division needs a guy like Filho right now.

]]> By: Nine Duce http://mmamania.com/2008/02/21/spring-cleaning-middleweight-david-terrell-released-by-the-ufc/#comment-327990 Nine Duce Tue, 26 Feb 2008 03:03:24 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/21/spring-cleaning-middleweight-david-terrell-released-by-the-ufc/#comment-327990 [quote comment="323646"][quote comment="323381"]^^^^ yeah "I sincerely hope Dana White is planning on re-stocking his fighters with the likes of TUF nobodies." Okay, The nobodies include - Josh Neer, Shane Carwin, Rousimar Palhares, Chris Wilson, Ricardo Almeida, Yoshiyuki Yoshida, Dong Yun Kim, David Bjelkeden ect... get the point - a bunch of nobodies.....[/quote] exactly why pay those bums...people should quit bashing dana if it wasnt for dana ufc wouldnt have 80 to 90percent of the fans they have...the only big loss has been randy and that piece of crap turned his back on the people that maDE him i hope he breaks his neck[/quote THANK YOU! Don't believe the hype Captain Quit. [quote comment=”323646″][quote comment=”323381″]^^^^ yeah

“I sincerely hope Dana White is planning on re-stocking his fighters with the likes of TUF nobodies.”

Okay, The nobodies include - Josh Neer, Shane Carwin, Rousimar Palhares, Chris Wilson, Ricardo Almeida, Yoshiyuki Yoshida, Dong Yun Kim, David Bjelkeden ect…

get the point - a bunch of nobodies…..[/quote]
exactly why pay those bums…people should quit bashing dana if it wasnt for dana ufc wouldnt have 80 to 90percent of the fans they have…the only big loss has been randy and that piece of crap turned his back on the people that maDE him i hope he breaks his neck[/quote
THANK YOU! Don’t believe the hype Captain Quit.

]]> By: steve-o http://mmamania.com/2008/02/21/spring-cleaning-middleweight-david-terrell-released-by-the-ufc/#comment-325152 steve-o Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:58:03 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/21/spring-cleaning-middleweight-david-terrell-released-by-the-ufc/#comment-325152 I really believe the ufc really needs to review each weight class and keep the fighter that made noise! I enjoyed watching terrell fight. With the loss of randy, soon to be tito, cro cop, babalu, soon to be arlovski, i know that fighters now are being a dime a dozen however if ther ufc claims "to have the best fighters" then they really need to evalute who they eliminate. I really believe the ufc really needs to review each weight class and keep the fighter that made noise! I enjoyed watching terrell fight. With the loss of randy, soon to be tito, cro cop, babalu, soon to be arlovski, i know that fighters now are being a dime a dozen however if ther ufc claims “to have the best fighters” then they really need to evalute who they eliminate.

]]> By: Macho Bullshit http://mmamania.com/2008/02/21/spring-cleaning-middleweight-david-terrell-released-by-the-ufc/#comment-325043 Macho Bullshit Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:55:49 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/21/spring-cleaning-middleweight-david-terrell-released-by-the-ufc/#comment-325043 Im surprised UFC didn't get rid of this guy earlier, no doubt from what weve seen he is a good fighter, but 6 fights in 9 years is terrible. Injury Prone or just a wuss, the ufc carried him for too long. Maybe he can mount a comeback but i doubt it he'll probably get injured again lol. Im surprised UFC didn’t get rid of this guy earlier, no doubt from what weve seen he is a good fighter, but 6 fights in 9 years is terrible. Injury Prone or just a wuss, the ufc carried him for too long. Maybe he can mount a comeback but i doubt it he’ll probably get injured again lol.

]]> By: JB http://mmamania.com/2008/02/21/spring-cleaning-middleweight-david-terrell-released-by-the-ufc/#comment-324736 JB Sat, 23 Feb 2008 05:58:59 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/21/spring-cleaning-middleweight-david-terrell-released-by-the-ufc/#comment-324736 [quote post="5070"]As far as the young talent pool...it's in the WEC. I just don't understand why they (UFC brass) won't bring any of these guys up. They have some primetime talent there. I just don't see the conflict of interest. Put the TUF guys in WEC and move some WEC seasoned talent into the UFC. It would be the begining of a strong talent pool.[/quote] I've heard somewhere that the Zuffa intention is to eventually build up the WEC as a sort of form of competition for the UFC. You know, eventually have WEC champs vs UFC champs for superbouts. Before that can happen, the talent in the WEC as well as the respect factor in the eyes of the fans needs to be met. A cool idea but a long time in the future. Therefore, siphoning off top WEC talent would be a step back for Zuffa brass. [quote post=”5070″]As far as the young talent pool…it’s in the WEC. I just don’t understand why they (UFC brass) won’t bring any of these guys up. They have some primetime talent there. I just don’t see the conflict of interest. Put the TUF guys in WEC and move some WEC seasoned talent into the UFC. It would be the begining of a strong talent pool.[/quote]

I’ve heard somewhere that the Zuffa intention is to eventually build up the WEC as a sort of form of competition for the UFC. You know, eventually have WEC champs vs UFC champs for superbouts. Before that can happen, the talent in the WEC as well as the respect factor in the eyes of the fans needs to be met. A cool idea but a long time in the future. Therefore, siphoning off top WEC talent would be a step back for Zuffa brass.

]]> By: Vale Nada http://mmamania.com/2008/02/21/spring-cleaning-middleweight-david-terrell-released-by-the-ufc/#comment-324411 Vale Nada Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:03:44 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/21/spring-cleaning-middleweight-david-terrell-released-by-the-ufc/#comment-324411 Half-Glass, Half-sissy..good riddance. Half-Glass, Half-sissy..good riddance.

]]> By: JamesS http://mmamania.com/2008/02/21/spring-cleaning-middleweight-david-terrell-released-by-the-ufc/#comment-324377 JamesS Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:34:30 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/21/spring-cleaning-middleweight-david-terrell-released-by-the-ufc/#comment-324377 [quote comment="323130"]A little off topic but all these guys that complain about the money their making, r they making any more with these other organizations than they would with the ufc? I bet no.[/quote] Kimbo Slice and Tank Abbott both made over $100,000 for their elitexc fight. That's great considering they are both low tier fighters. That's more than Arlovski, Vera, or machida ever make in the UFC and a lot of people argue that they are title contenders. Why not fight in Elitexc and fight easier opposition to make more money. [quote comment=”323130″]A little off topic but all these guys that complain about the money their making, r they making any more with these other organizations than they would with the ufc? I bet no.[/quote]
Kimbo Slice and Tank Abbott both made over $100,000 for their elitexc fight. That’s great considering they are both low tier fighters. That’s more than Arlovski, Vera, or machida ever make in the UFC and a lot of people argue that they are title contenders. Why not fight in Elitexc and fight easier opposition to make more money.

]]> By: The 518 Playa http://mmamania.com/2008/02/21/spring-cleaning-middleweight-david-terrell-released-by-the-ufc/#comment-324236 The 518 Playa Fri, 22 Feb 2008 21:11:35 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/21/spring-cleaning-middleweight-david-terrell-released-by-the-ufc/#comment-324236 [quote post="5070"]I don't want the UFC to start bringing in the young guns of the WEC into the UFC before they are ready.[/quote] Dan Lauzon was a perfect example of that. To top it off, they pit him against "King" Fisher. I do believe Dan was a late replacement though. Still... [quote post=”5070″]I don’t want the UFC to start bringing in the young guns of the WEC into the UFC before they are ready.[/quote]
Dan Lauzon was a perfect example of that. To top it off, they pit him against “King” Fisher. I do believe Dan was a late replacement though. Still…

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