Additional details have emerged regarding the recent lawsuit that HDNet Fights and its owner, Mark Cuban, filed against Zuffa LLC and Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) in a Texas court.
According Adam Swift at Sherdog.com, embattled UFC Heavyweight Champion Randy Couture — who relinquished his strap in late 2007 — and HDNet Fights have entered into a contract that begins when “The Natural’s” UFC promotional contract and non-compete clause expire in October 2008.
At that time, it’s believed that HDNet Fights intention is to promote a megafight between Couture and Fedor Emilianenko in Dallas, Texas. Without a contract with Couture, HDNet Fights would be unable to go to court because there would be nothing to “adjudicate.”
The point of contention between Couture and Zuffa is the employment contract between the two. Zuffa contends that Couture still owes the UFC two fights, while Couture believes that his responsibility to those fights was eliminated with his resignation, leaving only his promotional contract and non-compete clause.
Cuban and HDNet Fights contend that Zuffa’s position regarding Couture is illegal because it interferes with his ability to seek gainful employment and practice his craft. As there is a small window though which Couture can compete as an elite-level athlete, HDNet Fights will look to expedite the court decision.
It’s important to note that Texas law prohibits indefinite employment restrictions such as the restrictions Zuffa is attempting to place on Couture.
The current lawsuit also acknowledges the lawsuit brought by Zuffa against Couture and notes that HDNet Fights does not intend for its contract with Couture to interfere with any existing contract between Couture and Zuffa.
Couture’s contract with HDNet Fights will only become valid after the promotional agreement between Couture and Zuffa either expires or a court rules it void and/or unenforceable.
Stay tuned for more on this developing story.
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Hells yeah!!!
Sweeeet. It’s been long enough.
oh baby! almost seems too good to be true. Dana must be fudging his shorts.
ITS FINALLY GONNA HAPPEN… AND MAKE A LOT OF MONEY
I cant believe randy has bought into his own hype to the point that he feels he is ‘too good’ to defend his strap against Nog. He thinks he can actually beat Fedor?
On the same note, I want to see this fight just as much as any other guy, so lets make it happen
Emelianenko vs Couture!!! OH MY GOD! Need I say it will be a bigger fight then the Fedor vs Cro-Cop fight a while back?! I think so!!!!!
WOOHOO!!!!!
i thought signing a contract with someone, while under contract with someone else was a BIG legal no-no.
if it goes to court and ufc lose there should be an outside chance that the fight happens a bit sooner as ufc resigned to defeat on the matter may well allow coutoure/hdnet to buy out the remaining months of the contract for anot that substancial an amount
at the same time coutoure will probably need 3 months to train as will fedor and DW appears to throw the rattle out of the pram when he doesnt get his own way so may try to postpone the fight for as long as possible so that it will definitely be randys last fight
Hell Yeah! Finally!
[quote comment=”320959″]i thought signing a contract with someone, while under contract with someone else was a BIG legal no-no.[/quote]
I would say you can write a contract (back up) as long as the contract states that it will come into effect IF contract XYZ expires or gets terminated. I am sure they had it written up with a full legal team and I highly doubt Randy would just go and sign another contract with out legal advice.
Will love to see this fight. Especially if it sticks it to Dana a bit along the way. Do not think Randy thinks he is too good for Nog, my understanding is it would have locked in a secondary part of the contract from which escape would have been difficult. On a side note I’m sure many will think I’m retarded but I believe much the same that Fedor was a bad match up for Nog I think Nog would be a bad match for Randy. Thus another good reason for avoidance. Randy vs Fedor however seem to posess similar styles and thus good match.
[quote comment=”320946″]oh baby! almost seems too good to be true. Dana must be fudging his shorts.[/quote]
who cares about randy anymore he turned his back on all the people who made him and that includes dana white props to u dana for not giveing in to a man who is only good stil cause of hgh….im tired of hearing about randy,,go make a fool of urself and take ur gold-digger skank girl wit ya,,maybe u two could double wit the clemens and u can shoot each other up
listen all u people need to understood randy turned his back on all the people who made him his ufc fans and even dana so i say props to u dana dont give in to that selfish ungrateful bum
Finally, the dream fight will happen! Having more MMA organizations out there will only be good for us fans. I see Tito and others disaffected with UFC management joining HDNET Fight.
THE BIG QUESTION IS… WILL IT BE FOUGHT IN A CAGE OR IN A RING!? IF CAGE - COUTURE ALL THE WAY!!!
Oh man, Cuban is the MAN!!! Thanks to him this very well might happen.
I just think Couture is our best hope right now for beating the Russian who I am bitter towards due to his not so exciting business decision to go with M1. But besides that, Couture’s the MAN!!
War Couture!!!!!!
Finaly
Shit, I was hoping he’d come back to the UFC. This is only the beginning, others will follow.
I live in Dallas and I am so THERE for this if it happens
couture is going to get drilled if this fight happens….he beat sylvia…and gonzaga who looks like he belongs in the not televised portion right now….so go get what you want randy…over in about 90 seconds
See, cross promoting makes these fights happen. Dana’s smart enough to bring the UFC to where it is today, but now that all these other organizations are popping up, he should do the smart thing and cross promote.
And Pay his fighers well.
be careful of what you ask for randy… poor guy, he’s on the way to getting his head ripped out of his neck. good luck, you’ll need it against the russian.
I can’t wait to find out how much HDnet Fights pays these two after this war of money. I know that the UFC underpays guys in their contracts, but the headliners get a cut of the pay per view. That’s got to be a serious chunk of money. You would think that Fedor Couture would be one of, or possibly, the biggest MMA PPV’s ever. As far as I know, HDnets doesn’t do PPV. Am I wrong? Will this be a PPV event or will you just need to have the channel to see the fight?
[quote comment=”320974″]Will love to see this fight. Especially if it sticks it to Dana a bit along the way. Do not think Randy thinks he is too good for Nog, my understanding is it would have locked in a secondary part of the contract from which escape would have been difficult. On a side note I’m sure many will think I’m retarded but I believe much the same that Fedor was a bad match up for Nog I think Nog would be a bad match for Randy. Thus another good reason for avoidance. Randy vs Fedor however seem to posess similar styles and thus good match.[/quote]
I agree. When Randy says that only the Fedor fight makes sense, I’m pretty sure he means business sense.
Good, go get it Randy….although this will probably prompt 30 more lawsuits from the UFC.
I agree Dana brought the UFC up, but it’s gone straight to his head!
As you can tell on this post - 95% of MMA fans want this fight to happen in the worst way. Dana’s #1 objection - make sure it never happens.
Dana brought the UFC up, but it wouldn’t mean anything without the fans….the same fans he’s trying to screw out of this fight!
Flaadog -
I believe that you need HDNet to watch this fight. That being said, Cuban is no dummy and if he sees the opportunity to make a truck load of cash with a one off PPV, why not?
[quote comment=”320959″]i thought signing a contract with someone, while under contract with someone else was a BIG legal no-no.[/quote]
It is a HUGE LEGAL NO NO, it’s like say you get married with a woman and you separate but are still legally married, then you marry some other girl and say that “That” marriage will be valid after the divorce of the first marriage is done or when a court splits you. That fight will not happen.
Randy is like in Oscar De La Hoya’s position right now. Are there other contenders that De La Hoya could face? Sure, but at this point in his career, why would he put himself through training for a fight that has less money and profile than a Mayweather fight? That’s exactly what Randy’s position is with Fedor.
Oh man…oh man…I think I might have to go to this. I live in Austin and if this happens it would be a mailestone in MMA. HDnet fights are in a cage right? If they are I would still give a slight edge to Fedor.
Zuffas about to step into the courts with one of the richest guys in the world I love it.
Seems justified for raising ppv prices for no apparent reason
Excellent Mr.Smithers…excellent. Mark it on your calendar gents, we’ll see this fight before the years over! WAR THE NATURAL!!!!
UFC purchases PRIDE and kills it.
All of these “little backyard promotions that are popping up” (Dana’s term) don’t worry Dana White. Or at least that’s what he says when he is interviewed.
I wonder how Dana is feeling now that the biggest fight in the history of MMA looks like it will be taking place outside of the UFC.
Like someone mentioned above, will the fight take place in a ring or in a cage? That is the question.
[quote comment=”320976″][quote comment=”320946″]oh baby! almost seems too good to be true. Dana must be fudging his shorts.[/quote]
who cares about randy anymore he turned his back on all the people who made him and that includes dana white props to u dana for not giveing in to a man who is only good stil cause of hgh….im tired of hearing about randy,,go make a fool of urself and take ur gold-digger skank girl wit ya,,maybe u two could double wit the clemens and u can shoot each other up[/quote]
What’s that smell?…
Ah yes, the smug odor of UFC fundamentalist having to eat his words. I love it.
[quote comment=”321010″]See, cross promoting makes these fights happen. Dana’s smart enough to bring the UFC to where it is today, but now that all these other organizations are popping up, he should do the smart thing and cross promote.
And Pay his fighers well.[/quote]
Oh yeah cause the money is sooo great elswhere (Sarcasm)
just look at what the eliteXC guys made. $1 to win?
[quote comment=”321034″]Zuffas about to step into the courts with one of the richest guys in the world I love it.
Seems justified for raising ppv prices for no apparent reason[/quote]
Being rich or famous has nothing to do with Justice, nor the Legan System, NOTHING.
[/quote]
props to u dana for not giveing in to a man who is only good stil cause of hgh….[/quote]
did i miss somethng? when did Couture get embroiled in an HGH conroversy. you’re reaching out pretty far there guy if you think Randy is on HGH. How can i take anyone seriously that thinks Dana is the best president this company could get and gives him props for the job he’s done. The only job Dana is good at is the hand-job/reacharound that he gives Chuck on a continuous basis. Cuban is gonna make a huge splash. He has the money, the charisma and the golden touch that is gonna make the UFC have to take notice. Too bad Cuban is gonna make all the $$$ from this fight and Dana can explain to the Fertitta’s how and why he screwed them out of the biggest PPV in MMA history.
before I start jumping up and down on the couch with excitement, I am going to wait and see how this actually pans out. This is just round 3 in a 15 round unification bout
[quote comment=”320983″]Finally, the dream fight will happen! Having more MMA organizations out there will only be good for us fans. I see Tito and others disaffected with UFC management joining HDNET Fight.[/quote]
I totally disagree. Having many different promotions will just lead MMA down the path of boxing. Having all the best fighters in the same organization is what leads to the amazing fight cards where you get to see 6 great fights in one night. Plus, determining legitimacy of title holders is much easier with one major organization.
This will be a great fight but what happens when its over in 2 minutes!!!!!! All of this will be for no reason and Fedor will still be number one in the world because Dana’s not gonna let Nog fight him.
[quote comment=”321023″]Flaadog -
I believe that you need HDNet to watch this fight. That being said, Cuban is no dummy and if he sees the opportunity to make a truck load of cash with a one off PPV, why not?[/quote]
HDNet Fights is only available to a small number of cable users. Cuban will almost certainly put it on PPV where everyone has the ability to see it and he can make some cash, then rerun the hell out of it on his network.
[quote comment=”321026″][quote comment=”320959″]i thought signing a contract with someone, while under contract with someone else was a BIG legal no-no.[/quote]
It is a HUGE LEGAL NO NO, it’s like say you get married with a woman and you separate but are still legally married, then you marry some other girl and say that “That” marriage will be valid after the divorce of the first marriage is done or when a court splits you. That fight will not happen.[/quote]
Worst legal analysis ever. (See above analysis)
If Randy Couture’s contract is an exclusive dealings contract (I would think that it is), then he cannot enter into contracts without the consent of the UFC until his contract duties have been discharged. Therefore, Couture’s HDnet contract begins at the date of expiration of his UFC contract. Thus, Couture does not breach the terms of his UFC contract.
Employment and/or promotional contracts are not analogous to a marriage license. When people get married its not a matter of contract law. There is no such thing as a “marriage” contract, but when people get married they need a “license.” If a contract exists between spouses regarding terms of the marital and separate property, then the contract is either a pre - marital/nuptial or post - marital/nuptial agreements. The name of the contract depends on whether it was entered into before or after the marriage.
Entering into a contract when you are bound by another contract is not a “HUGE LEGAL NO NO,” unless the second contract breachs the terms of the first contract. In Couture’s case, it seems to be that he agreed to fight for HDnet after his UFC contract has expired. Therefore, Couture is not breaching the terms of his UFC ocntract because his UFC contract will not exist at the time Couture performs his duties under the HDnet contract.
The declaratory relief sought by HDnet allows them to determine the remainging “length” of Couture’s contract. This is important because HDnet cannot begin planning the event until they can determine a reasonably certain date for which Couture would be allowed ot fight. The ruling is important because HDnet needs to begin laying the logistics and getting the business side of the operation going.
The fight is going to happen either way. Its just a matter of when. Furthermore, the lawsuit is great publicity and its free.
Mark Cuban moved up to #457 on my hero list and will move up to #122 when the fight happens.
This is a day of great excitement in the MMA world.
The Best fight IN MMA HISTORY.
I HOPE RANDY DEFEATS COUTURE AND IS FINALLY RECOGNIZED AS THE BEST EVER.
Dan Henderson will be the next to walk
[quote comment=”321089″]Dan Henderson will be the next to walk[/quote]
Dan just signed a new contract in order to fight Anderson dude, don’t think he’ll be leaving anytime soon.
[quote comment=”321041″]UFC purchases PRIDE and kills it.
All of these “little backyard promotions that are popping up” (Dana’s term) don’t worry Dana White. Or at least that’s what he says when he is interviewed.
I wonder how Dana is feeling now that the biggest fight in the history of MMA looks like it will be taking place outside of the UFC.
Like someone mentioned above, will the fight take place in a ring or in a cage?
That is the question.[/quote]
I say 1/2 Ring & 1/2 Cage.
Think about it!
It will be in the shape of a hexagon with a cage coming up to the same height as the ropes in a ring. It will be awesome! Both fighters won’t be able to continue due to back injuries suffered from the mid-back “cage rope” slams!
[quote comment=”320989″]THE BIG QUESTION IS… WILL IT BE FOUGHT IN A CAGE OR IN A RING!? IF CAGE - COUTURE ALL THE WAY!!![/quote]
should happen in a ring, randy’s wrestling background should have him covered - and besides, Randy is chasing Fedor, so it should be in Fedors home.
[quote comment=”321066″][quote comment=”320983″]Finally, the dream fight will happen! Having more MMA organizations out there will only be good for us fans. I see Tito and others disaffected with UFC management joining HDNET Fight.[/quote]
I totally disagree. Having many different promotions will just lead MMA down the path of boxing. Having all the best fighters in the same organization is what leads to the amazing fight cards where you get to see 6 great fights in one night. Plus, determining legitimacy of title holders is much easier with one major organization.[/quote]
I agree Greg. What if football had twenty different organizations and the Patriots and the Chargers and the Giants were all in different ones? Yeah that would suck. Sure every now and then they could cross promote, but it doesnt beat having them all competing in one.
[quote comment=”321098″][quote comment=”321089″]Dan Henderson will be the next to walk[/quote]
Dan just signed a new contract in order to fight Anderson dude, don’t think he’ll be leaving anytime soon.[/quote]
Thank you for the info
[quote comment=”321066″][quote comment=”320983″]Finally, the dream fight will happen! Having more MMA organizations out there will only be good for us fans. I see Tito and others disaffected with UFC management joining HDNET Fight.[/quote]
I totally disagree. Having many different promotions will just lead MMA down the path of boxing. Having all the best fighters in the same organization is what leads to the amazing fight cards where you get to see 6 great fights in one night. Plus, determining legitimacy of title holders is much easier with one major organization.[/quote]
one org that will not let the best fighters fight. the ufc or dana holds personal beefs with fighters and does not let them compete so how is that make it better.we don’t know who the best in the world is unless they fight each other and the ufc does not alow that to happen.
[quote comment=”321051″][quote comment=”321034″]Zuffas about to step into the courts with one of the richest guys in the world I love it.
Seems justified for raising ppv prices for no apparent reason[/quote]
Being rich or famous has nothing to do with Justice, nor the Legan System, NOTHING.[/quote]
It has everything to do with it the more money you have the better lawyers and stronger legal battles you can persue, why dont you ask the goldmans if they got justice in OJ’s trial.
Justice gets overshadowed by who has the better legal representation.
[quote comment=”321116″][quote comment=”321051″][quote comment=”321034″]Zuffas about to step into the courts with one of the richest guys in the world I love it.
Seems justified for raising ppv prices for no apparent reason[/quote]
Being rich or famous has nothing to do with Justice, nor the Legan System, NOTHING.[/quote]
It has everything to do with it the more money you have the better lawyers and stronger legal battles you can persue, why dont you ask the goldmans if they got justice in OJ’s trial.
Justice gets overshadowed by who has the better legal representation.[/quote]
Well said. Money always talks.
Litigation is very expensive, but I think litigaiton costs and attorneys fees are not a huge concern for either party. Each party has some deep pockets.
[quote comment=”321073″]This will be a great fight but what happens when its over in 2 minutes!!!!!! All of this will be for no reason and Fedor will still be number one in the world because Dana’s not gonna let Nog fight him.[/quote]
forget about dana not letting Nog fight Fedor, I dont think nog ever wants to fight fedor again
[quote comment=”320989″]THE BIG QUESTION IS… WILL IT BE FOUGHT IN A CAGE OR IN A RING!? IF CAGE - COUTURE ALL THE WAY!!![/quote]
It’ll be interesting to see which they go with. I’d imagine it’ll be a ring which I think is a disadvantage to Randy. He uses the cage a lot as you can see in his fights with Gonzaga and Sylvia.
[quote comment=”321101″][quote comment=”320989″]THE BIG QUESTION IS… WILL IT BE FOUGHT IN A CAGE OR IN A RING!? IF CAGE - COUTURE ALL THE WAY!!![/quote]
should happen in a ring, randy’s wrestling background should have him covered - and besides, Randy is chasing Fedor, so it should be in Fedors home.[/quote]
I agree Insain, he is the one pursuing Fedor, I also think that Fedor fighting in a cage, would hurt him more than Randy in the ring. Randy is ready to handle anything, he’s done a ring before, and since Fedor is a small HW, pressing agasint teh cage should not be entirly as necesary as lets say, taking down Barnett or somebody.
[quote comment=”321102″][quote comment=”321066″][quote comment=”320983″]Finally, the dream fight will happen! Having more MMA organizations out there will only be good for us fans. I see Tito and others disaffected with UFC management joining HDNET Fight.[/quote]
I totally disagree. Having many different promotions will just lead MMA down the path of boxing. Having all the best fighters in the same organization is what leads to the amazing fight cards where you get to see 6 great fights in one night. Plus, determining legitimacy of title holders is much easier with one major organization.[/quote]
I agree Greg. What if football had twenty different organizations and the Patriots and the Chargers and the Giants were all in different ones? Yeah that would suck. Sure every now and then they could cross promote, but it doesnt beat having them all competing in one.[/quote]
the problem is the ufc does not let the best fighters fight and kepps them out of the ufc for personal reasons so they can not be legit when they are doing these types of things.
[quote comment=”321125″][quote comment=”321101″][quote comment=”320989″]THE BIG QUESTION IS… WILL IT BE FOUGHT IN A CAGE OR IN A RING!? IF CAGE - COUTURE ALL THE WAY!!![/quote]
should happen in a ring, randy’s wrestling background should have him covered - and besides, Randy is chasing Fedor, so it should be in Fedors home.[/quote]
I agree Insain, he is the one pursuing Fedor, I also think that Fedor fighting in a cage, would hurt him more than Randy in the ring. Randy is ready to handle anything, he’s done a ring before, and since Fedor is a small HW, pressing agasint teh cage should not be entirly as necesary as lets say, taking down Barnett or somebody.[/quote]
Sherdog.com Information:
1. Randy Couture The Natural 6′1 (185cm) 225lbs (102kg)
2. Fedor Emelianenko The Last Emperor 6′0 (183cm) 233lbs (106kg)
I guess Couture and Fedor are same heavyweights?
I would also like the make the point that Randy(despite his age) I believe has the sheer strength advantage as far as the grappling goes, and I think he’ll get the takedown and get on top no problem.
He is infamous with having trouble with HW’s, but he really didnt do bad at all. Look at the Josh Barnett fight, Randy got the take down at will pretty much, and kept the dominant position landing descent GnP shots the whole time, winning the first two rounds. Finally, when Josh did get on top, Randy pulled a Gonzaga and curled up and died. But Fedor is a smaller HW, and I don’t think Randy will gas in the same way, and if Linland got Fedor down, so will Randy.
The question in my mind is weather or not Fedor can catch him from his back with one of his infamous armbars.
[quote comment=”321127″][quote comment=”321102″][quote comment=”321066″][quote comment=”320983″]Finally, the dream fight will happen! Having more MMA organizations out there will only be good for us fans. I see Tito and others disaffected with UFC management joining HDNET Fight.[/quote]
I totally disagree. Having many different promotions will just lead MMA down the path of boxing. Having all the best fighters in the same organization is what leads to the amazing fight cards where you get to see 6 great fights in one night. Plus, determining legitimacy of title holders is much easier with one major organization.[/quote]
I agree Greg. What if football had twenty different organizations and the Patriots and the Chargers and the Giants were all in different ones? Yeah that would suck. Sure every now and then they could cross promote, but it doesnt beat having them all competing in one.[/quote]
the problem is the ufc does not let the best fighters fight and kepps them out of the ufc for personal reasons so they can not be legit when they are doing these types of things.[/quote]
The ufc tries it’s best to get all the best fighters, they are not 100% succesful, but they are pretty darn good, at least, teh best so far.
how would this work though, in that case from now on Randy can only fight in states that do not enforce that contract or what??? i guess randy will fight in TX for a long time which is cool because i live in Houston and Dallas is only 4 hours away wooo who
Fedor will walk through Randy …. Randy is way past his prime. Gonzaga had that fight if it wasn’t for the busted nose. This is gonna get so over hyped but no way is this the greatest MMA match-up ever.
Silva vs Henderson is a way better fight.
let me say this, the last thing i wanna see is shiite being talked about randy, i take my hat off to him.No one except him and his people know really whats going on, were commenting on what were being told.If he feels he wants to fight Emelianinko and thats it, I say fine.I dont think its a matter of him feeling hes better than neone, hes 45 years old, how much longer will he be capable of stepping into the octagon with Emelianenko?Theres sides to everything guys!
[/quote]I totally disagree. Having many different promotions will just lead MMA down the path of boxing. Having all the best fighters in the same organization is what leads to the amazing fight cards where you get to see 6 great fights in one night. Plus, determining legitimacy of title holders is much easier with one major organization.[/quote]
Perfect.
[quote comment=”321011″]be careful of what you ask for randy… poor guy, he’s on the way to getting his head ripped out of his neck. good luck, you’ll need it against the russian.[/quote]
Linx: I completely agree. Randy has been drinking a little to much of his own kool aid lately. I said I would never count Randy out again as an underdog, then again everyone is an underdog against The Russian, and that Russian always delivers.
I have a few questions for all of you:
Question #1: for all of you? If Fedor completely destroy’s Randy, like I know he will, will u then all stop hating on Fedor “The badest Dude on the Planet” Emelienenkio?
Question #2: Who is the tougher fighter to FINISH…Nogueira or Couture?
Question #3: How did Randy get the deal with HDNet done, I thought u couln’t negotiate with other organizations while under UFC contract?
Mark Cuban is not “the man”! The guy is as sleazy as they come. I think he is going to be shocked when he sees the ppv buys for this “super fight” cause casual mma fans don’t give a shit about fedor. Randy, Ferdor, and Mark Cuban need to F off.
Wow..Mr. Cuban is a busy man. Jason Kidd and now Randy Couture. Yes…this will be an exciting fight but it will be HDNets only fight worth watching. Seriously…have any of these other start up organizations produced anything really worth watching? As of now…no…not really. WEC, maybe, but guess who owns them! Dana’s probably disappointed he didn’t get this fight but until these other companies start putting together some shows worth seeing the UFC is where it’s at…as messed up as it might be. We can all think of things we’d like to see different and fighters we’d like to see in the UFC but for now I’ll keep my loyalties here.
i really dont care for all the legal mumbo jumbo, i just wanna see randy and fedor fight
[quote post=”5042″]Linx: I completely agree. Randy has been drinking a little to much of his own kool aid lately. I said I would never count Randy out again as an underdog, then again everyone is an underdog against The Russian, and that Russian always delivers.
I have a few questions for all of you:
Question #1: for all of you? If Fedor completely destroy’s Randy, like I know he will, will u then all stop hating on Fedor “The badest Dude on the Planet” Emelienenkio?
Question #2: Who is the tougher fighter to FINISH…Nogueira or Couture?
Question #3: How did Randy get the deal with HDNet done, I thought u couln’t negotiate with other organizations while under UFC contract? [/quote]
Answer I’ve never really hated on Fedor so I don’t really have to worry about that. But I have a question for you what will you do IF Randy beats Fedor.
Answer 2 I would have to say Big Nog is tougher to finish he’s always getting his ass kicked then pulling out the win.
Answer 3 I don’t think Randy really gives a shit what the ufc says
[quote comment=”321133″][quote comment=”321127″][quote comment=”321102″][quote comment=”321066″][quote comment=”320983″]Finally, the dream fight will happen! Having more MMA organizations out there will only be good for us fans. I see Tito and others disaffected with UFC management joining HDNET Fight.[/quote]
I totally disagree. Having many different promotions will just lead MMA down the path of boxing. Having all the best fighters in the same organization is what leads to the amazing fight cards where you get to see 6 great fights in one night. Plus, determining legitimacy of title holders is much easier with one major organization.[/quote]
I agree Greg. What if football had twenty different organizations and the Patriots and the Chargers and the Giants were all in different ones? Yeah that would suck. Sure every now and then they could cross promote, but it doesnt beat having them all competing in one.[/quote]
the problem is the ufc does not let the best fighters fight and kepps them out of the ufc for personal reasons so they can not be legit when they are doing these types of things.[/quote]
The ufc tries it’s best to get all the best fighters, they are not 100% succesful, but they are pretty darn good, at least, teh best so far.[/quote]
i am not talking about the fighters that they try to sign and fail i am talking about the fighters they don’t let compete cause dana does not like them even though they are at the top of there weight class.
[quote comment=”321083″]The Best fight IN MMA HISTORY.
I HOPE RANDY DEFEATS COUTURE AND IS FINALLY RECOGNIZED AS THE BEST EVER.[/quote]
????
[quote comment=”320959″]i thought signing a contract with someone, while under contract with someone else was a BIG legal no-no.[/quote]
like the blog said… he’s has not signed a contract
[quote comment=”321183″][quote comment=”321011″]be careful of what you ask for randy… poor guy, he’s on the way to getting his head ripped out of his neck. good luck, you’ll need it against the russian.[/quote]
Linx: I completely agree. Randy has been drinking a little to much of his own kool aid lately. I said I would never count Randy out again as an underdog, then again everyone is an underdog against The Russian, and that Russian always delivers.
I have a few questions for all of you:
Question #1: for all of you? If Fedor completely destroy’s Randy, like I know he will, will u then all stop hating on Fedor “The badest Dude on the Planet” Emelienenkio?
yes ring or cage randy does not stand much of a chance.
Question #2: Who is the tougher fighter to FINISH…Nogueira or Couture?
nogueira by far.
Question #3: How did Randy get the deal with HDNet done, I thought u couln’t negotiate with other organizations while under UFC contract?[/quote]
obviously it is legal and cuban had his lawyers look at everything before hand or would not have done it.he is not undercontract with them till his ufc contract is up and that will be determined in court.
[quote comment=”320978″]listen all u people need to understood randy turned his back on all the people who made him his ufc fans and even dana so i say props to u dana dont give in to that selfish ungrateful bum[/quote]
hell”” UFC made plenty of money off Couture, and definitely survived in part, because of him,,, he was the poster boy of THE” fighter in the UFC.. promoting it across the country why it was a safe sport… they both benefited from it… now he wants out… let the contracts speak for themselves.
[quote comment=”321014″][quote comment=”320974″]Will love to see this fight. Especially if it sticks it to Dana a bit along the way. Do not think Randy thinks he is too good for Nog, my understanding is it would have locked in a secondary part of the contract from which escape would have been difficult. On a side note I’m sure many will think I’m retarded but I believe much the same that Fedor was a bad match up for Nog I think Nog would be a bad match for Randy. Thus another good reason for avoidance. Randy vs Fedor however seem to posess similar styles and thus good match.[/quote]
I agree. When Randy says that only the Fedor fight makes sense, I’m pretty sure he means business sense.[/quote]
Also, Couture recognizes his age as a disadvantage and after a few more possibly brutal fights, he could get injured, lose steam or slow down in so many ways…. If he wants one more fight before he retires… it would be right to fight FEDOR the guy who beat NOG twice.
Couture can come back to UFC n’ fight NOG… if WHITE wants to make it happen….he wont’
[quote comment=”321131″]I would also like the make the point that Randy(despite his age) I believe has the sheer strength advantage as far as the grappling goes, and I think he’ll get the takedown and get on top no problem.
He is infamous with having trouble with HW’s, but he really didnt do bad at all. Look at the Josh Barnett fight, Randy got the take down at will pretty much, and kept the dominant position landing descent GnP shots the whole time, winning the first two rounds. Finally, when Josh did get on top, Randy pulled a Gonzaga and curled up and died. But Fedor is a smaller HW, and I don’t think Randy will gas in the same way, and if Linland got Fedor down, so will Randy.
The question in my mind is weather or not Fedor can catch him from his back with one of his infamous armbars.[/quote]
The Anomaly: I respect your posts a lot, and thats y I would like to debate your post with you. I am not saying you are wrong, but do u really think Couture has the strength advantage over Fedor? Keep in mind, I have heard numerous fighters say that Fedor has the best hips in the world, which is very important in mma. Hips control is crucial in takedowns as well as ju jitsu
[quote comment=”321041″]UFC purchases PRIDE and kills it.
All of these “little backyard promotions that are popping up” (Dana’s term) don’t worry Dana White. Or at least that’s what he says when he is interviewed.
I wonder how Dana is feeling now that the biggest fight in the history of MMA looks like it will be taking place outside of the UFC.
Like someone mentioned above, will the fight take place in a ring or in a cage?
That is the question.[/quote]
I would love to be a fly in the room with Dana just to see his reaction when the fight is finally made official….It would be a priceless moment.
As for the cage vs. Ring question….I think Randy as no shot at all fighting Fedor in a ring. The recent Randy (of the past 2 years) has developed some world class “Cage Tactics” as he likes to call it. Although Randy has much improved as a striker, his cage tactics have helped him greatly when fighting better strikers then him. You take away Randy’s cage tactics and he looses one of the most dominant aspects of his arsenal. It should take place in the ring, Fedor is considered the best in the world, Randy is chasing him so it should be in a ring. Also Randy has fought in a ring before, while I dont recall Fedor ever fighting in a cage.
I will never forget how stupid Dana sounded when he called Fedor a Farce who isn’t even top 5. What a joke, he expects me to believe that he offered 1.5 million a fight, which is an unprecedented pay day, never before seen in the UFC. We can say like Brock, Fedor is a huge draw so he deserves the money, but that would be a false statement because I hear that from a business standpoint Fedor was a bust in America and pay per view numbers werent good for the events he competed in America. Which means he was offered that 1.5 because Dana clearly knows he was the REAL Deal, how could u not? Dana has said some awefully stupid things…but that clearly took the cake. I will never forget that statement made by Dana.