Fight Kimbo Slice!

Damn these different organizations!!!!

yea kimbooo sliceeeeeeeee

I think that Eddie Sanchez would be a good opponent for him. After a good showing by Sanchez in his last fight I’m sure he wants a big name guy to go against, and Brock would definitely provide a high profile fight. Plus it would give Brock a good opportunity to show off his ground and pound.

the heavyweight division is so weak right now eddie sanchez is literally the only person i can think of

the loser out of heath herring and kongo should fight him.

put him in there with sylvia, let him beat his ass, and let sylvia go and never bring his boring ass back.

Christian Wellisch may be a bad idea… he may get a slick sub… he obviously isn’t as good as mir… but still he has good enough subs to get one if mir gets too relaxed

Lesnar should fight Brandon Vera or Tim Sylvia. My money’s on brock over both those guys.

Mania: Was it moved to June 7 ?!?!?!?!?!

He should fight Herring, herring’s got some what of a name out there even though i see him as one of the most pathetic fighters in the world but I’d love to see Brock kick the shit out of him. Theres no way herring would be able to get up form his ground and pound cuz he sucks ass on the ground

Give Brock Jake O’Brien if he can get past Arlovski.

[quote comment="320159"]the loser out of heath herring and kongo should fight him.[/quote]

I think this is the best possible match-up for him. Not quite contender level but close enough for him to build off of.

Even as inexperienced as he is, I think he destroys any top striker. Eddie Sanchez? Tim Sylvia? Antoni Hardonk? I think it wouldn’t even be close. He’s WAY TOO POWERFUL for them.

So, I wouldn’t be suprised if the UFC sets him up with someone with submission skills again like a Gonzaga…so he feels more pressure.

Though once Lesnar perfects his submission skills (which he’s doing right now for sure) watch the f— out!!!

What about that new signee, Shane Carwin? He’s relatively inexperienced in MMA, big strong guy with a lot of wrestling background. Perfect for Brock!

I think Brandon Vera should square off with Eddie Sanchez.

[quote comment="320166"]Mania: Was it moved to June 7 ?!?!?!?!?![/quote]

According to MMAWeekly, yes.

Mir is giving himself WAY too much credit. True, he won, but he clinched victory from the jaws of defeat.

i vote herring

[quote comment="320188"]Mir is giving himself WAY too much credit. True, he won, but he clinched victory from the jaws of defeat.[/quote]

Seriously give him a little more training and he runs through Mir.

I would of liked to have seen him vs Cro Cop but thats not happening anytime soon so I’d have to go with Jake O. win or lose vs AA that should be an easy win for brock. Jake cant LnP with brock.

he is actually going to fight christian wellisch a friend told me.

I think elitexc would be a good idea for his career. He can spend five years over there building up his record, then fight for the belt, and come into the ufc at age 37 to prove he’s awesome.

On a more serious note, i say Brandon Vera or Heath Herring

Scooby – a win is a win mate and that fight went down as most educated people expected it to. Mir was extremely active and never gave up so don’t take anything away from him.

All you guys who think Lesnar can beat the like of Tim Sylvia, Arlovki etc are kidding yourself. These guys are knock out artists who can avoid the take down.

I can not wait to see Lesnar get hit for the first time – can you imagine the thud around the stadium when that gorilla hits the canvas.

Brock Lesnar VS Tim Sylvia would be very entertaining!

Vera would kill Lesnar!

uhmmm jake o brian anyone? top level wrestlers. win or lose for jake, that might be the next fight we see.

Yea i don’t know tha heavyweight division is prtty weak right now i think brocks best bet is to try and fight Tim Sylvia cause tim was talkin alot of shit about brock saying that he deserves to get paid more then him cause he’s a better fighter. So if they did fight we would really see whos tha better fighter.

[quote comment="320192"][quote comment="320188"]Mir is giving himself WAY too much credit. True, he won, but he clinched victory from the jaws of defeat.[/quote]

Seriously give him a little more training and he runs through Mir.

I would of liked to have seen him vs Cro Cop but thats not happening anytime soon so I’d have to go with Jake O. win or lose vs AA that should be an easy win for brock. Jake cant LnP with brock.[/quote]
dont bet to much on that jake has great take down in fact i think he beats double a comeing up

[quote comment="320152"]yea kimbooo sliceeeeeeeee[/quote]
[quote comment="320152"]yea kimbooo sliceeeeeeeee[/quote]
if i thought u were bein serious id get sick,,,kimbo is nuthin but a young tank a complete joke of mma,,,i have more respect for lesnar then a joke like kimbo

I think that they’re gonna put him up against Sanchez and mainly because he’s a striker. I think that stylistically thats the best match up for him. I also wouldn’t be surprised if they match Brock up with someone who is still relatively inexperienced.

Having Brock fight Brandon Vera would make sense from the UFC’s standpoint because it might “prove” to Vera that he’s too small to compete with the larger HW fighters.

[quote comment="320252"]uhmmm jake o brian anyone? top level wrestlers. win or lose for jake, that might be the next fight we see.[/quote]
I agree, give him some warmup matches to go a few rounds, then face Vera, or maybe try Allesio Silva? The one Kongo beat last year prior to Cro Cop. Is Brad Imes still with UFC?

Brock Lesnar vs. Tim Sylvia
Frank Mir vs. Minotauro Noguiera

swapping Mir and Sylvia ( although Mir probably doesn’t deserve a title shot quite yet) would be an exciting way to set up UFC 85, switching the fighters around from UFC 81. Especially with Mir and Noguiera, the two best BJJ guys in the heavyweight division, going at it.

I’ve been saying Sanchez since Lesnar lost pretty much, and I still say that should be his next fight.

If Kimbo fights Brock, the only thing left of Kimbo will be a bloody spot on the mat. Eddie Sanchez would be a good for Brock to get into the winning track. Mir is great but I think he was lucky – He telegraphed that knee bar and only a fighter with limited jiu-jitsu experience would get caught (like Brock). Mir was a mess after that fight; he looked like he been in a train wreck. Brock is way to powerful. If he gets some strong jiu-jitsu training he will be REAL tough and will be knocking some folks into tomorrow.

[quote comment="320182"][quote comment="320166"]Mania: Was it moved to June 7 ?!?!?!?!?![/quote]

According to MMAWeekly, yes.[/quote]

Was it originally scheduled for the 14th? I am “guessing” they made the move to accomodate Spike TV. The Ultimate Fighter Finale’ is June 21st and I doubt Spike would want weekend, back to back, UFC events. I also doubt UFC would do 2 PPVs 2 weeks apart again(even though they just did) To me this “rumor” makes sense and if i was a betting man i would say UFC 85 will be on Spike.

Kongo would be perfect for him, no real ground defence.

Loser of Cheick Kongo v. Heath Herring, or Eddie Sanchez.

he should get to fight cheik kongo!!!!!

Tim Sylvia…. Lesnar should fight Sylvia… I think he’ll have a much easier time taking him down than Couture did.. I don’t believe he’ll get caught with a punch.

T. SYLVIA VS LESNAR

Let Brock fight a new up and comer…Whos new coming in?..Anyone? This division is hurting for some talent…The UFC is in deep shit with this one..forsure..how they gonna fix this one?…damn, it’s all hitting me so hard…

KIMBOOOOOOO

[quote comment="320318"]Kongo would be perfect for him, no real ground defence.[/quote]

If Kongo can get by Heath Herring (and if Heath stands with him I think he will) then he should fight a top contender. If he wins I think Kongo should get Tim Sylvia, unless they give Sylvia and Mir a rematch.

I think Brock would kill anybody without an extensive groundgame, and he would do it very fast. Elite and UFC should pit these two newcomers together, “Battle of the circus acts” Brock Vs. Kimbo.
Nah really I have alot of respect for Brock, he’s stopped talkin crap and wants to get in there with the big dogs, give him BJJ defense and he is the Matt Hughes of the HW, with a possible Matt Hughes like reign, I don’t see why not, he is very very similar.

I think he would kill Gonzaga with GG’s tendancy to curl up the minute expiriancing GnP, but at the same time GG would def work him enough to give Lesnar more expirancing points agaisnt BJJ.

Gabrial Vs. Lesnar – despite what Mir and others have concluded already.

[quote comment="320152"]yea kimbooo sliceeeeeeeee[/quote]

For sure, My first pick would be Kimbo!
but in the UFC….Eddie Sanchez or Assuerio Silva, maybe, MAYBE, Kongo.

I say the UFC needs to sign some HW! They had a very deep HW division now that Corture, Sylvia and arlovski contemplating leaving. Cro Cop leaving for the moment over to Dream. 4 top HW that could no longer be in the UFC in the next 6 months. With that the UFC needs to sign some big name HW on the free agent market. Barnett is the only one that comes to my mind. With that said I say Lesnar needs to fight Hardonk, Sanchez, Palelei, or McCully.

[quote comment="320311"][quote comment="320182"][quote comment="320166"]Mania: Was it moved to June 7 ?!?!?!?!?![/quote]

According to MMAWeekly, yes.[/quote]

Was it originally scheduled for the 14th? I am “guessing” they made the move to accomodate Spike TV. The Ultimate Fighter Finale’ is June 21st and I doubt Spike would want weekend, back to back, UFC events. I also doubt UFC would do 2 PPVs 2 weeks apart again(even though they just did) To me this “rumor” makes sense and if i was a betting man i would say UFC 85 will be on Spike.[/quote]

I hope it is on the seventh cause I’m gonna be there crapping my pants if it is. If it’s on the fourteenth I’ll be at home and the pantcrapping will be much more mild.

Brock should fight:

A: Eddie Sanchez

B: Antoni Hardonk

C: Colin Robertson (funny fight – Lesnar would crush)

D: Justin McCully (another wrestler/GnP artist – could be good)

I think any of these match ups would be good.

After a couple of fights I think that Brock would be ready for someone like Sylvia… I would love to see him win too!

[quote comment="320218"]Scooby – a win is a win mate and that fight went down as most educated people expected it to. Mir was extremely active and never gave up so don’t take anything away from him.

All you guys who think Lesnar can beat the like of Tim Sylvia, Arlovki etc are kidding yourself. These guys are knock out artists who can avoid the take down.

I can not wait to see Lesnar get hit for the first time – can you imagine the thud around the stadium when that gorilla hits the canvas.[/quote]

if you really think tim sylvia can stop the takedown of a 280 punds ncaa champion you are crazy!!!

they should put him into some serious grappling tournament to improve his bjj

[quote comment="320447"]Brock should fight:

A: Eddie Sanchez

B: Antoni Hardonk

C: Colin Robertson (funny fight – Lesnar would crush)

D: Justin McCully (another wrestler/GnP artist – could be good)

I think any of these match ups would be good.

After a couple of fights I think that Brock would be ready for someone like Sylvia… I would love to see him win too![/quote]

I think it would be a mockery to have Brock roll over one of those guys. Brock can beat Tim; Brock deserves Tim. Sylvia has lost his last two, Brock did better against Mir, who they both lost to, and Brock would be the favorite so I don’t want to hear that he’s not ready.

[quote comment="320160"]put him in there with sylvia, let him beat his ass, and let sylvia go and never bring his boring ass back.[/quote]

Lay off Timmy, he fought well against Nog and was very close to pulling off a massive win.

[quote comment="320229"]Vera would kill Lesnar![/quote]

You must be joking? Lesnar would use Vera as a toothpick.

Brock Lenars next fight should have been Andre The Pitbull that way he can leave the UFC a beat up man.Lesnar wouldn’t get submitted after Mir locked him up. Tim Sylvia is prob the best match-up but they r throwing punks at him next.

im pretty sure lesnar doesnt fit in the ufc – he got his ass handed to him in the 1st round for fooks sakes! against a b-list fighter. The only fight he will win is against the bum who fought sanchez, soa or whatever his name is. If lesnar looses his next fight hes out of the ufc – just like crocop, they cant afford to pay him top dollar for losing again and again

[quote comment="320451"][quote comment="320218"]Scooby – a win is a win mate and that fight went down as most educated people expected it to. Mir was extremely active and never gave up so don’t take anything away from him.

All you guys who think Lesnar can beat the like of Tim Sylvia, Arlovki etc are kidding yourself. These guys are knock out artists who can avoid the take down.

I can not wait to see Lesnar get hit for the first time – can you imagine the thud around the stadium when that gorilla hits the canvas.[/quote]

if you really think tim sylvia can stop the takedown of a 280 punds ncaa champion you are crazy!!![/quote]

of course he can – his webbed feet will keep him standing lol

[quote comment="320485"][quote comment="320229"]Vera would kill Lesnar![/quote]

You must be joking? Lesnar would use Vera as a toothpick.[/quote]
No way Vera would destroy Lesnar. he’s extremely good in BJJ and Muay Tia so even if lesnar takes him down it would end much the same way that the mir fight ended.

Probably be Lesnar vs that Pao de Palo guy that Sanchez fought l ast, i know I spelled his name wrong, but it’s a weird name.

Id like to see Tim sylvia as his next opponent as well, he s coming off a loss too.

Doesn’t make sense having Brock fight in the UK… NOBODY in England likes that fake wrestling shit!!! NOBODY!!!! So NOBODY knows him over here… I had NEVER heard of Brock until he fought Mir. I was excited about the fight, but soley because of all the hype and me wanting to see a Fake Wrestler get beat the fook up!

After seeing that fight I am a Lesnar fan!! But still not well known enough in Engladn/UK to be drawing crowds like he would in the US.

Most pple over here don’t even know the name of the sport… i.e. they have no idea what MMA is, most pple think that there is just UFC and that’s what MMA is called. And 99.9% of pple in UK will have never heard of the WEC or EliteXC etc.

Look guys, In this order.

Brock would destroy the following…
Cro-cop
Tank Abbot
The big Oriental guy Fedor beat???
KONGO

Would be a speed bump at best…
Vera
Tim Silvia
Herring
Arlovski
Werdum
Slice

Could have some serious problems with…
Gonzaga
Mir
NOG
Randy C.
Fedor

I think its a mistake for him to take anyone that is a speed bump cause things happen… He needs a bit more experience.

Did the ufc match him vs mir to give him title shot or to knock him down a peg so they can offer the low $$$ but still have the drawing power. There were big pay offs if he would have won (title match I bet) and when he lost (chalk it up to needing experience). Not much risk…

I think matching him vs the smaller names not on the list is a big mistake also cause again things happen… and he could get cut and get an L and be that much less marketable. And feeding him those guys arnt really going to get him anywhere ont he ladder to a title.

Kongo is obviously the victim of choice…

Go Grappler!!!

[quote comment="320548"]Doesn’t make sense having Brock fight in the UK… NOBODY in England likes that fake wrestling shit!!! NOBODY!!!! So NOBODY knows him over here… I had NEVER heard of Brock until he fought Mir. I was excited about the fight, but soley because of all the hype and me wanting to see a Fake Wrestler get beat the fook up!

After seeing that fight I am a Lesnar fan!! But still not well known enough in Engladn/UK to be drawing crowds like he would in the US.

Most pple over here don’t even know the name of the sport… i.e. they have no idea what MMA is, most pple think that there is just UFC and that’s what MMA is called. And 99.9% of pple in UK will have never heard of the WEC or EliteXC etc.[/quote]
Liddell will be on UFC 85…so there’s no problem as far as marketing that card goes. Good thing for Brock if nobody follows WWE in the UK. they’re gonna be introduced to him as a legit MMA fighter.

again, no problem.

Facing Vera would make sense. Both coming off losses. It would be a difficult fight for Vera since Lesnar would just take him down and ground n pound his ass. Silvia maybe against Gonzaga or Sanchez. Verdum against Mir next? winner faces NOG. As for the winner of Kongo and Herring I’m not so sure yet. I would say AA or O’Brien, but looks like AA is on his way out of the UFC.

A fight with Gonzaga would be great with the two being real strong fighters. But I think its still early getting brock in there with good BJJ fighter. Then again Gonzaga is on a two fight losing streak so it could be a good opportunity for Brock.

I think a fight with Eddie Sanchez would be a better match up thoug if they want to preserve Brock for the distant future.

[quote comment="320160"]put him in there with sylvia, let him beat his ass, and let sylvia go and never bring his boring ass back.[/quote]

AMEN

[quote comment="320218"]Scooby – a win is a win mate and that fight went down as most educated people expected it to. Mir was extremely active and never gave up so don’t take anything away from him.

All you guys who think Lesnar can beat the like of Tim Sylvia, Arlovki etc are kidding yourself. These guys are knock out artists who can avoid the take down.

I can not wait to see Lesnar get hit for the first time – can you imagine the thud around the stadium when that gorilla hits the canvas.[/quote]

Mir won, no one can take that away from him. But he talks about it like it was never in any doubt. And he speaks as if it forever settles the question of who is the better fighter.

In this same vein, there seems to be many people who think likewise (i.e., that having fought, the issue of who is best is beyond question). I disagree with this. I think the sport implicitly recognizes that a question of who is best can take a couple of fights to determine, hence rematches.

Does anyone seriously believe that Serra is better than GSP?

I think Eddie Sanchez would be a good opponent, maybe not a top name, but Brock needs to earn a top name fighter. If the UFC feeds him to a top 10 fighter too quick, his career in MMA will be over before it begins. Lets remember, he is still a n00b in the sport.

I say let him beat up Eddie Sanchez….He was acting all cocky after beating Sao Paleleli who wasnt even fighting back. A nice Ground n Pounding by Lesner should snap him back to reality real fast.

Mania, thanks for passing on that Verra vs. Werdum rumor, I didnt hear anything about that one. I really would like Werdum to get another win against a top opponent before fighting for the title which Dana previously indicated.

Werdum did the best possible thing for his career by moving to Chute Box and it already paid dividends….in the fight against Gonzaga. If Werdum sticks with Chute Box and keeps improving his muy tai…he will be very Dangerous in the future.

Verra is a perfect opponent to see how much Werdum’s striking has really improved. If he can hang with Verra’s striking, then everyone needs to watch out because on the ground he is TOP NOTCH! This is also a great opportunity for Verra. He gets to try to rebound against a title contender(werdum) who isnt much bigger then Verra. This would be an amazing fight and I really hope that it happens.

Mania, do you know how serious this Verra vs. Werdum news is?

[quote comment="320606"][quote comment="320218"]Scooby – a win is a win mate and that fight went down as most educated people expected it to. Mir was extremely active and never gave up so don’t take anything away from him.

All you guys who think Lesnar can beat the like of Tim Sylvia, Arlovki etc are kidding yourself. These guys are knock out artists who can avoid the take down.

I can not wait to see Lesnar get hit for the first time – can you imagine the thud around the stadium when that gorilla hits the canvas.[/quote]

Mir won, no one can take that away from him. But he talks about it like it was never in any doubt. And he speaks as if it forever settles the question of who is the better fighter.

In this same vein, there seems to be many people who think likewise (i.e., that having fought, the issue of who is best is beyond question). I disagree with this. I think the sport implicitly recognizes that a question of who is best can take a couple of fights to determine, hence rematches.

Does anyone seriously believe that Serra is better than GSP?[/quote]

if your given a chance, an opportunity to prove your better and then you lose – your just not as good as you thought. I truly believe serra is a better fighter than gsp, thats why i won big wedge from there last fight, serra was given the chance and he pounced on it, just like lesnar did, but lesnar proved to not be so good – as he thought.

[quote comment="320188"]Mir is giving himself WAY too much credit. True, he won, but he clinched victory from the jaws of defeat.[/quote]

That is What MMA is about. As soon as you think you are winning or lossing bam you are getting your hand raised or waking up from being put to sleep. There are very few fighters in the current schemes of things that you can give a definitive advantage to. The skill sets are so high now that upset are no longer really upsets. It is more of who was the better fighter that night. This last year (2007) should have made that point clear. Do not get me wrong once Brock learns to defend the BJJ and not think strength will always beat leverage, he is and will be an amazing HW who will hold the gold for a long time. As of now he is still to green.

Also I do not think you guys give Sylvia enough credit. He has an amazing sprawl and usually is not controlled on the ground the way NOG did. Nog is the premier submission HW and one of the top sub specialts in MMA. Sylvia would still be to much trouble for Brock and Verra is nowhere near strong enough to handle Brock. He is a samll HW as it is(and that is weighing in with the Twinkies in his mouth and snickers in his pocket. Brock would crush Verra. Jake O’Brian I think is a good call. Strong wrestler, with good ground-n-pound, or even Cheick Kongo decent guard and a big and solid, super muscular 6′ 4″. Just my 2 cents…Feel free to throw the change back at me….

he should fight Danny Abaddy

Brock Vs Jens Pulver!

Ok….

Brock Vs Kongo
or
Brock Vs Gonzaga The one kick wonder

Anyone who says Lesnar would walk through CroCop or Arlovski is out of their minds. CroCop will be back in the UFC with a renewed confidence in about a year. Let’s not forget the man we’re talking about here. And Arlovski is still a heavyweight title status fighter. Lesnar simply doesn’t have the experience to fight either of those two. He would get murdered.

[quote comment="320557"]Look guys, In this order.

Brock would destroy the following…
Cro-cop
Tank Abbot
The big Oriental guy Fedor beat???
KONGO

Would be a speed bump at best…
Vera
Tim Silvia
Herring
Arlovski
Werdum
Slice

Could have some serious problems with…
Gonzaga
Mir
NOG
Randy C.
Fedor

I think you should have WErdum with Gonzaga and Mir. He is just as good and slick off of his back as Gonzaga or Mir.

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[quote comment="320487"]im pretty sure lesnar doesnt fit in the ufc – he got his ass handed to him in the 1st round for fooks sakes! against a b-list fighter. The only fight he will win is against the bum who fought sanchez, soa or whatever his name is. If lesnar looses his next fight hes out of the ufc – just like crocop, they cant afford to pay him top dollar for losing again and again[/quote]

? Mir is a former Champ. Most of his fights dont make it out of the 1st round because he grabs a limb, doesn’t let go and keep trying to break it. B-list fighter? Check your head. And Mir, the former champ, stated he wasn’t winning that fight untill he pulled off that knee bar. So Lesnor didn’t get his ass handed to him at all. I think Brock did pretty well considering who he was fighting. If Brock can develop some submission defence he will be a contendor.

Antoni Hardonk would be a perfect fir for Brock Lesnar because the guy has zero HEART. His will to win a fight gets taken away from him within the first 2 minutes of round 1. Justin McNulty is indeed a can but there is a chance he could catch Lesnar in a freak occurance known as a triangle. That would be bad for business. You could through Colin Robinson in there as well who may as well be Lenny from Mice & Men.

1. Hardonk
2. Robinson

[quote comment="320548"]Doesn’t make sense having Brock fight in the UK… NOBODY in England likes that fake wrestling shit!!! NOBODY!!!! So NOBODY knows him over here… I had NEVER heard of Brock until he fought Mir. I was excited about the fight, but soley because of all the hype and me wanting to see a Fake Wrestler get beat the fook up!

After seeing that fight I am a Lesnar fan!! But still not well known enough in Engladn/UK to be drawing crowds like he would in the US.

Most pple over here don’t even know the name of the sport… i.e. they have no idea what MMA is, most pple think that there is just UFC and that’s what MMA is called. And 99.9% of pple in UK will have never heard of the WEC or EliteXC etc.[/quote]

are you joking? the WWE is almost as big in the UK as it is in the US. the WWE sells out every stadium they appear in over in the UK. they filled up wembley stadium back in the early 90s.

I say Brock starts at the bottem fighting guy’s like Justin Eilers, Scott Junk, Antoni Hardonk,Wes Sims to gain some experience. Then once he perfects his training and gets some confidence in the cage then he should fight guys like Kongo, Hering, Arlovski and Syliva

I personally want the rematch more than any other fight, all Brock had to do was take 2 steps back when he stood up. Mir is not the Mir of old and that leg lock was his ONLY chance.

i know thats not happening….. my vote is for Herring, Obrien, or Kongo.

[quote comment="320570"][quote comment="320548"]Doesn’t make sense having Brock fight in the UK… NOBODY in England likes that fake wrestling shit!!! NOBODY!!!! So NOBODY knows him over here… I had NEVER heard of Brock until he fought Mir. I was excited about the fight, but soley because of all the hype and me wanting to see a Fake Wrestler get beat the fook up!

After seeing that fight I am a Lesnar fan!! But still not well known enough in Engladn/UK to be drawing crowds like he would in the US.

Most pple over here don’t even know the name of the sport… i.e. they have no idea what MMA is, most pple think that there is just UFC and that’s what MMA is called. And 99.9% of pple in UK will have never heard of the WEC or EliteXC etc.[/quote]
Liddell will be on UFC 85…so there’s no problem as far as marketing that card goes. Good thing for Brock if nobody follows WWE in the UK. they’re gonna be introduced to him as a legit MMA fighter.

again, no problem.[/quote]
Yeh… the UFC will pull a crowd in the UK regardless of the card, but Dana would still get more PPV’s etc out of Brock when he is on a US card. And UK fans will find out about Brock’s past because the UFC love to plug it for hype etc… And as you say Chuck will be enough here in ze UK.

Personally im stoked… I really liked te look of Brock, and i think him and chuck vs Shogun will be enough to tempt me into getting the best tickets my money will buy me!

[quote comment="320674"][quote comment="320548"]Doesn’t make sense having Brock fight in the UK… NOBODY in England likes that fake wrestling shit!!! NOBODY!!!! So NOBODY knows him over here… I had NEVER heard of Brock until he fought Mir. I was excited about the fight, but soley because of all the hype and me wanting to see a Fake Wrestler get beat the fook up!

After seeing that fight I am a Lesnar fan!! But still not well known enough in Engladn/UK to be drawing crowds like he would in the US.

Most pple over here don’t even know the name of the sport… i.e. they have no idea what MMA is, most pple think that there is just UFC and that’s what MMA is called. And 99.9% of pple in UK will have never heard of the WEC or EliteXC etc.[/quote]

are you joking? the WWE is almost as big in the UK as it is in the US. the WWE sells out every stadium they appear in over in the UK. they filled up wembley stadium back in the early 90s.[/quote]

Yeh… that was early 90’s which is nearly 2 decades ago now mate, I used to like it back then…when i was 12 ffs… I have never met one person over the age of 12 that likes that utter crap!! And if they do they’re too embarressed to talk about it. Or they should be.

POINT IS!!!! Brock is bigger in the states than he is or ever will be here…UFC will make more money off of him fighting in US. No contest.. no argument to be had on that one!

Stick his ass in there with KIMBO SLICE.

[quote comment="320683"]I say Brock starts at the bottem fighting guy’s like Justin Eilers, Scott Junk, Antoni Hardonk,Wes Sims to gain some experience. Then once he perfects his training and gets some confidence in the cage then he should fight guys like Kongo, Hering, Arlovski and Syliva[/quote]

Couldn’t of said it better myself. As of right now Lesner is just one a dimensional dominant wrestler. If he plans to just take everone down and pound them out in a minute he will never get close a title shot. I want to see Brock succeed in the ufc, i think he can put a serious hurting on most of these guys which is quite a claim for a newcomer to mma and UFC. I think that if he can can show he can stand a bang a little bit and get people worried about his striking AND his takedowns then we got one bad man on our hands. I just hope he is trying to improve using MMA in the octagon and not just being some kind of blunt force. Unless he has a submission game like Matt Hughes, being a bigger, angrier Tommy Speer is not going to get Brock Lesner to the top.
AND WHY DOSNT BROCK HAVE A NICKNAME?

The Undertaker or Kurt Angle Sorry I couldn’t help myself.

Eddie Sanchez is the only guy I can think of…. unless they bring in someone new.

[quote comment="320272"][quote comment="320192"][quote comment="320188"]Mir is giving himself WAY too much credit. True, he won, but he clinched victory from the jaws of defeat.[/quote]

Seriously give him a little more training and he runs through Mir.

I would of liked to have seen him vs Cro Cop but thats not happening anytime soon so I’d have to go with Jake O. win or lose vs AA that should be an easy win for brock. Jake cant LnP with brock.[/quote]
dont bet to much on that jake has great take down in fact i think he beats double a comeing up[/quote]

I think he will beat AA too by LnP but brock is a much better wrestler than Jake i just dont see it being close. I see brock getting the takedown quick and hammering away with meat hooks. But what do I know???

How about Jeff Monson? Actually the loser of Kongo vs Herring is a great idea. I think Monson would actually be a bad idea. I like Herring personally. Man the HW division is sparse.

Truly Antonio Silva, Kimbo Slice or Josh Barnett.

AA will have to finish quickly,…then again think about this; AA has MUCH better footwork than Herring. He also had trained w/ Couture, not that it matters TOO much. But AA’s quickness is much better than HH. Jake took HH down b/c he didn’t defend it AT ALL! And really, even if Jake takes him down, AA can knock you out from his back w/ a straight jab!(see AA vs Pe de Pano Cruz)

On another note; this is a tremendous test to see if Jake is “top notch” or not.

Good luck to both, should be great!!!

Slice vs. Lesner would a very exciting fight!! Make it happen Dana!

[quote comment="320773"]Slice vs. Lesner would a very exciting fight!! Make it happen Dana![/quote]

I dont know how much of an mma match that would be, but could u imagine how much money that fight would bring in? Kimbo and Brock both bring a completely new audience to mma, a fight between the two would be a HUGE money maker, but probably not interesting to true mma fans.

slice vs lesner? cmon guys you can’t be serious. But I do like the idea of Monson at least for Brock.
imagine Jeff scoring a big gonzaga kick to the head of brock hahahahaha….what would joe rogan say?

Brock should fight Eddie Sanchez. He should be able to take him down and pound him out but I would really like to see him submit him. It also gives him a chance to be in with a striker but not a great quality one. Plus I hate watching Sanchez fight and would enjoy seeing him pounded into the ground.

Lesnar is ready for Big Tim right now! If you think about it, this fight would be awesome!

[quote comment="320773"]Slice vs. Lesner would a very exciting fight!! Make it happen Dana![/quote]
I agree, but it won’t happen. Kimbo won’t leave EliteXC and Lesnar makes too much money.

Brock is worth every penny they pay him.

We’re all talking about him!!!!

[quote comment="320852"]Brock should fight Eddie Sanchez. He should be able to take him down and pound him out but I would really like to see him submit him. It also gives him a chance to be in with a striker but not a great quality one. Plus I hate watching Sanchez fight and would enjoy seeing him pounded into the ground.[/quote]

SAME HERE!

[quote comment="320842"]slice vs lesner? cmon guys you can’t be serious. But I do like the idea of Monson at least for Brock.
imagine Jeff scoring a big gonzaga kick to the head of brock hahahahaha….what would joe rogan say?[/quote]

Why would u want Brock fighting against another submission grappler (monson)? Do u want brock to start his UFC career 0-2?

brock vs sylvia is the answer.. that would be great.

and sylvia being ragdolled is definitely a must see..

[quote comment="320737"]How about Jeff Monson? Actually the loser of Kongo vs Herring is a great idea. I think Monson would actually be a bad idea. I like Herring personally. Man the HW division is sparse.

Truly Antonio Silva, Kimbo Slice or Josh Barnett.[/quote]

Monson fight sounds mint! that would be the most muscle in the octagon ever! – i wonder who’s stronger

nick J…blow me!

tim sylvia is a joke, and a boring fighter, ive never watched one of his fights and enjoyed it.

the winner of Kongo Herring would be the best.if not then Hardonk

[quote comment="320952"][quote comment="320737"]How about Jeff Monson? Actually the loser of Kongo vs Herring is a great idea. I think Monson would actually be a bad idea. I like Herring personally. Man the HW division is sparse.

Truly Antonio Silva, Kimbo Slice or Josh Barnett.[/quote]

Monson fight sounds mint! that would be the most muscle in the octagon ever! – i wonder who’s stronger[/quote]
Lesnar hands down. Monson is not even that strong. Couldnt take Tim down, im sure Brock could.

first off monson is signed wieth some fuckin organisation [art of war]that pedro rizzo is champ of ,so ufc will not be holding that fight but a lil bidie from minnesota says there are eddie sanchez rumblings …whats new poor eddie agts fed to the sharks all the time…also kimbo will prob be fighting winner of berry/shamrock fight

[quote comment="320489"][quote comment="320451"][quote comment="320218"]Scooby – a win is a win mate and that fight went down as most educated people expected it to. Mir was extremely active and never gave up so don’t take anything away from him.

All you guys who think Lesnar can beat the like of Tim Sylvia, Arlovki etc are kidding yourself. These guys are knock out artists who can avoid the take down.

I can not wait to see Lesnar get hit for the first time – can you imagine the thud around the stadium when that gorilla hits the canvas.[/quote]

if you really think tim sylvia can stop the takedown of a 280 punds ncaa champion you are crazy!!![/quote]

of course he can – his webbed feet will keep him standing lol[/quote]

His webbed feet didn’t help him against Couture and they sure wouldn’t help him against Lesnar.

Brock should be able to take big Timmy down without much trouble. The only problem he might have is if Timmy hits before he can take him down. Still dont really know what kind of chin Brock has. Hows he gonna react to getting punched in the face. On the ground its all Lesnar all the time.

[quote post="5027"]It depends on who he fights. He needs to be more selective on who he fights. [/quote]

You get to pick? What a way to prove who the best is…

It all really depends on what people want to see out of Brock, the only decent wrestler left in that division is Jake O’Brien. I personally believe that if Brock gets anybody down without solid BJJ skills, the fights going to end brutally and early. I don’t think that there is anybody at all who can hang with Brock athletically in the HW division in any organization. That being said, it doesn’t really matter how crisp or accurate his striking is, he’ll drop somebody easy, or score a takedown and end the fight on top. Brock might have submitted early but Mir as in alot of trouble.

What about Ben Rothwell from IFL? He is just kickin the shit out of every heavyweight over there and could use a test like Lesnar. Rothwell is out of the Miletich camp too so you know he’s tough as nails. Joe Silva, make it happen… you can probably put it on UFN 13 too like every other fight in the world haha

Kimbo Slice all the way. I’m a huge fan of both Kimbo and Lesnar as I’m sure many people are. This would be as exciting as a fight could ever be.
Lesnar beat the hell out of Mir which was about the best guy he could have fought. Who else fights a former champion still in his prime for their first match. Lesnar is for real and I feel bad for who he fights next. He made a stupid mental error hovering over Mir like that, of which he relized and had a great attitude about it. Thats why he will continue to get better and I believe develop in the most dominate force UFC has ever seen. He has the will and the right attitude.
On Kimbos defense , first off we’ve all seen him make a mockery of those guys on youtube. Some people call the bums, I just know that majority of the guys definitly look like badasses and really think they have a shot at Kimbo. Obviously Kimbo being the animal he is just devoured them. All but one that is. Sean Gannon. I would love to see a rematch of this fight since it was unfair. The rules were stated no choking or elbows. Gannon did it neways and you can tell that Kimbo is tired after the first few minutes after Gannon gets him in the choke. You know thats not normal after watching his video of him fighting 3 guys back to back without skipping a beat. The guy trains better then alot of people think. Sure he is a street fighter, but he takes it serious. Not to mention I havent seen anyone be able to dodge punches and read punches so well since Muhammad Ali. For example in the Tank Abbott fight on the knockout punch delivered from Kimbo. I watched that last dodge and punch 10 times just admiring it. It was like one fluid motion, Kimbo making it look so easy to drop a 260 lb man to the floor like a baby.

Basically what im sayin is. This fight NEEEEDS to happen.
Both men are pure athletes and heavy hitters. Could be the most watched fight ever for the world of MMA.

[quote comment="321326"]Brock should be able to take big Timmy down without much trouble. The only problem he might have is if Timmy hits before he can take him down. Still dont really know what kind of chin Brock has. Hows he gonna react to getting punched in the face. On the ground its all Lesnar all the time.[/quote]

I agree- and that’s why I think Lesnar would win; Sylvia would only get a short chance to land a knockout punch, and most likely he would get taken down immediately and pounded out. I’d bet big money on Lesnar over Sylvia.

stand fighter= YOUNG MIKE TYSON

he should fight someone like Kimbo Slice or i’d like to see him vs. Tim Sylvia that would be an entertaining match to watch

Brock should fight Mir again because if they wouldnt have stopped the fight after a “HIT” to the head he would have had it won….every other fight that night at ufc 81 they gave warnings to shots to the back of the head and never stopped them, and then they do in brocks fight….and if not Brock should face Tim Sylvia…
mikie a.k.a Kidd X from Fort Wayne,IN

Kimbo Slice would be perfect. They’re both relatively new and their styles are similar. Neither will be looking to submit the other though Lesnar might plan to use his superior wrestling skills for a takedown. Other than that, the stand-up would be the weapon of choice for both and I can only imagine the intensity of the violence though I think Lesnar wins this one (which is precisely why it won’t happen soon, not to mention Slice is not UFC—yet). Both are big draws as both have fans or at least MMA fans who are very interested in each of them. A victory by one over the other would probably mean some monetary losses for the promoters/owners. Each needs more build-up but I hope we don’t have to wait too long. They’re both around 32 years old so this fight better happen within a couple years or MMA fans will lose a lot of their interest in seeing it happen.

I think Brock lesnar is not ready yet for a big fight like Sylvia or Gonzaga. He showed allot of power and good ground-and-pound game but needs more stand up experience to be fighting these guys. Ofcourse he will take them down, but this is where he is weakest. Antoni Hardonk would be funny too watch since he will try to prove himself. Might be interesting.
He has great stand up due to kicks, and a decent ground game.

Im hoping Lesnar vs Hardonk for a good warm up so after this brock can defeat Sanchez.

Lesnar VS Kurt angle will bring alot of $ on table for ufc hahahaha.

I think it should be Hulk Hogan and his nephew that started his mma career in a handicapped no holds barred since Brock likes to hit in the back of the head and the Hulk can follow in the foot steps of Sylvester Stallone and create a whack sequel so UFC can promote the hell out of it . No Holds Barred 2!

kimbo

[quote comment="320229"]Vera would kill Lesnar![/quote]
vera is a chump he can’t beat brock. the only way he beat mir was because of ground and pound tactics. which brock will kill him in

[quote comment="320487"]im pretty sure lesnar doesnt fit in the ufc – he got his ass handed to him in the 1st round for fooks sakes! against a b-list fighter. The only fight he will win is against the bum who fought sanchez, soa or whatever his name is. If lesnar looses his next fight hes out of the ufc – just like crocop, they cant afford to pay him top dollar for losing again and again[/quote]

I disagree. Lesnar made the UFC a lot of money and garnered a lot of publicity. Sure, he took a big cut, but he still made the PPV a huge seller. In terms of his fight vs Mir: I think he would have won had the referee not stood them up for ONE blow to the back of Franks head. I have seen over a hundred fights where the ref just warns the fighter, but lets them continue fighting. Brock was BEATING Mir to a pulp, so bad all Mir could do is hide his face. He was coming at Mir fast a furious and I don’t believe Mir had an answer at that point. Then all of a sudden, the Ref stands them up? Are you kidding?

Lesnar’s ground and pound is UNSTOPPABLE. If he trains his sub. defense these few months, he will have the HW belt by 2009. What a monster.

Lesnar have problems with the submission but remember he pulled down Mir in a moment and was destroying his face on the floor until the time out. He must to learn to defend better his body, especially his legs. Anyway i think very few people would be able to resist more than the minut against him.

i agree totally with willis, the guys a animal, he’s supposed to be fighting coleman at ufc 87 on aug 8th at mineapolis his hometown, yeah i dont know how to spell it but anyway he is gonna beat him and if he trains his defence, he will be unstoppable.

KIMBO 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The most dangerous fight amongs all MMA, earth will split in half if one of these bastereds fight!

I remembered when Kurt Angle uses the angle lock to Brock… It reminds me of those matches where brock taps out hundreds of times. “You tapped out!”, “You tapped out!” haha I’m hearing it again. Maybe he must use the “Brock Lock” that was his own created submission or maybe the “F5″ haha.. Imagine he F5 mir in their match in mir turned out to be a vegetable…

it doesnt matter who brock lesnar fights i along with all his fans believe that he will rise to the top and become the most dominate hevyweight champion to have ever stepped into the octagon

if lesnar was to put an arm bar on someone he would break their arm off and beat them with it, if he dont eat it like the moster he is, GO BROCK YOUR #1 FAN LUKE

YOU ALL THINK LESNAR HAS A PROBLEM SUBMITTING, YOU ALL ARE CRAZY, HE WAS TRYING TO PUT ON A SHOW FOR HIS FANS IN THE MIR FIGHT, I CANT WAIT FOR HIM TO SUBMIT SOMEONE BUT WHERE IS THE EXITEMENT IN THAT, LETS SEE SOMEONE TRY TO GROUND AND POUND HIM, OH WAIT NO ONE CAN, AND IF THEY CAN WHO IS IT?

Lesnar was granted a much higher-ranked fighter for his first UFC match BECAUSE of the Pro Wrestling background. The only reason he was in the WWE is because after being an NCAA wrestling champion, what other work is there in the field? It took Kurt Angle two years, two offers, and a large dollar sum to finally go to the “phonies”. He was surprised to find some very talented wrestlers, and the WWE and its cast have benefitted from his presence.

Turns out, the phonies are highly-skilled professional athletes. Brock could have made a living yanking trees out of the ground, but the money was SO much better.

That Dana would capitalize on this fame is only common sense. The UFC is improved in quality and financially by Lesnar joining their ranks. Make no mistake… he is a dedicated athlete and a champion, not an actor.

All that being said, the HW division IS a bit weak, and Brock doesn’t deserve a championship opportunity, or even a top name yet.

Perhaps Dana should set up a housefull of heavyweights, Lesnar being one of them. It could expand the division and provide valuable training, and time, for all of them.

It isn’t just the show’s winner that gets a contract. The winner just gets the BIG one.(How about a “Rocky-style” title shot for the show-champ?)

Oh yeah…

Like most athletes, Brock Lesnar has a name. Why he or any other athlete would have a “nick-name” is merely for marketing to the lower-level audience. Introductions before bouts has become ridiculous, most notably in what is left of pro boxing. Lets not go there.

I grew up with lesnar and he got caught on accident last fight with Mir. fuck whoever think he can’t hang with any of those other strikers. those guys would be screwed to step in the octogon with him. bring the submission people on cuz after that loss he won’t get caught again. Ridicule me all you want if I’m not right, but Brock Lesnar will not lose a fight again until he is the UFC MMA heavyweight champ. If anyone disagrees feel free to punch your own balls off.

brock’s cuz

IF NO ONE THINKS LESNAR CAN SUBMITT THINK THAT AND ARGUE UNTILL WE GET TO SEE A LESNAR VS SLICE AND THERE WILL STILL BE NO SUBMITTING BECAUSE LESNAR WOULD STILL BEAT SHIT OUT OF SLICE AND KNOCK HIM OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!

AND ONE MORE THING IF SOME ONE WAS TO ASK LESNAR IF HE WOULD FIGHT SLICE HE WOULD TELL YOU ( I WONT FIGHT HIM, I WILL DESTROY HIM) THANKS AND HAVE A NICE DAY.

Lrt him try to fight his way out of a paper bag. It’s still a bigger draw than any of the other heavywieght matchups. Plus, he might even escape with a victory.

Let him fight bob sapp!!! that would be bad azz!!!

BROCK JUST BEAT HERRING AT UFC 87 I GOT LUCKY EMOUGH TO WATCH IT LIVE.NOW AFTER A VERY EASY WIN OVER HEATH I MEAN HERRING WAS DESTROYED,HEATH DID NOT GET A SINGLE DECENT MOVE THE WHOLE FIGHT AND HE WAS COMPLETELY MAN HANDELED BY LESNAR.LESNARS NEXT FIGHT SHOULD BE EITHER OF THESE GUYS

CAIN VASQUUEZ I DONT KNOW HOW TO SPELL IT BUT HE DESTROYED JAKE OBRIEN ON THE FIGHT NIGHT WITH IRING AND SILVA

THE WINNER OF THE SHANE CARWIN VS NEIL WEIN FIGHT

GABRIEL GONZAGA

FBRICO WERDUM

CHEICK KONGO

AND I DONT KNOW WHY THERE GIVING MIR A TITLE SHOT

HE GOT DESTROYED BY BRANDON VERA THE FIGHT BEFORE HE FOUGHT LESNAR AND VERA SUCKS

AND BRANDON VERA GOT DESTROYED BY TIM SYLVIA

AND MIR WILL BE GETTING A TITLE SHOT AGINST ANTONIO NOUGURIA AND ANOTONIO NOGURIA WHOPPED TIM SYLVIAS ASS.

SO ITS ANTONIO NOGUIRA VS THE GUY THAT GOT BEAT BY THE GUY THAT GOT BEAT BY THE GUY HE BEAT

let all mma fans unite.. KIMBO SLICE vs. BROCK LESNAR. not that they’ll get plenty of money for that fight, (XFC&UFC) the mma world will have fun too. There will be a lot of trashtalkin’ though i suppose. Theyre both loudmouths. but in my opinion, lesnar will kill kimbo. damn he’s 260++ lbs! and he jumps like kobe…

Kimbo Slice easy… im a big Brock Lesnar fan and im sick of everyone sayin kimbo is the best get him in a ring with brock he wud get hammered.. another reason why they should get that arranged is because imagine the amount of people paying to watch that Kimbo Slice vs Brock Lesnar it doesnt matter if Kimbo is alot worse a fighter than Brock they both have similar reputations..

I don’t think he should fight anyone! He was horrible in his last fight. He had no idea what to do after the first punch landed. For the next three rounds he had his back and just laid on top of him like a high school wrestler. Why would anyone pay to see this guy fight again?

Lesnar is the next champ.. You farkers watch.

i think he should fight gonzaga, kimbo or maby at bobby lashley debut, just think about that 2 muscleheads killing each others, but i prefer 1000000000000000 times he fight kimbo slice in a streetfight than in a MMA fight at UFC, kimbo is the streetfighting god!!

i belibe he should fight kimbo in a streetfight, or gonzaga, or if not he could fight with bobbie lashley’s debute at december to show who the boss is, but kimbo – lesnar in a street it would be a deram came true, but is obioustle that the streetfight wrestling god kibo slice will beat the hell out of brock

throw him in with the winner of Arlowski v. Fedor!
should be fuckin excellent.

I’d like to see Goldberg fight.

Fedor would murder this ape. He’ll get exposed just like every other roid popping wrestler.

shoot id fight him. im 2008 smack down vs raw champion

Shane carwin is the ONlY possible guy that would be a match for Brock, I hope Brock would win but it would be an awesome fight

Bob Sapp wpuld be a good (and fair)match for Brock.

Ice man or the tank or shamrock will do.

Where do I sign up? I will get in the ring with that big bruiser Lessner. I give him what for! I stand 5′9″ and weigh a whopping 135 pounds but I’m wirey. Let me at’em!!!

Bob Sapp would be funny but Lesnar would beat him up too easy! He sould fight Fedor Emelianenko who I think his the best fighter there is out there. If he beats this guy he would prove everybody he is for real!

Brock Lesnar vs Bobby Lashley….they are identical just ones white and the other is black..in my mind no fighters compare to these 2…NONE

why does every 1 say herring.. hes a fat sloppy hillbilly… strait up bum.

Kimbo Slice is a punk! He Paid People To Fight Him To Gain Publicity. Brock Lesnar Would Rock Kimbo In The First Round.
As Many People Have Said Hes Not Even In The Same League.

Jackson vs. Lesnar

good fight.

LESNER VS KIMBO OR LESNER VS RAMPAGE JACKSON

no brock lesnar is not for real, talk, keep on talkin, but that doesnt make a difference. thas not the point anymore. he is the one who is and will in future, will be proving most of you wrong. place your bets carefully guys. only one i see is really capable right now is fedor and almost no one else. although sometimes luck comes into play. hes the best in a long time, i betcha.

Lesnar vs Mir, I think Lesnar wins tko easy, cause he knows what Mir gots know and its hard to beat a guy twice.
But i think a good fight is,,, Brock Lesnar vs Mirko Cro Cop

Lesnar is a joke….. his way of fighting is lay on top of people until he finally gets a chance to hit them…. He is one of the most unproductive fightersi have ever seen in the UFC… As far as Kimbo…. He would kill Lesnar toe to toe… most people would because esnar cant take a punch, he is scared of getting hit…. thats why he ALWAYS goes to the ground and ays on top of people…. Im going to laugh when people start Guillotine choking his ass out everytime he tries for a takedown….. Lesnar blows….

Lesnar is a joke…….. his “fighting” style is lay on people until he finally gets a chance to punch. He wont go toe to toe with anyone for the fear of getting knocked out all the time. He cannot take a punch…. Kimbo would murder him toe to toe… but as with every fight, Brock would take him down and lay on top of him…. YAWN….. Boring…. Brock is a *****. Fighters need to realize when he goes for his little spear takedown….. Guillotine choke would end his ass everytime! Hurry and get Brock out of there…. his fights are boring and dull…..

Mike Tyson

Mike Tyson!

Brock Lesnar will be around for a long time doing what he does best, knocking people down and then knocking them out. Thats how he does it. Nobody bitched when Royce Gracie just wore out his opponents then used his gi to choke…as a matter of fact, anyone ever seen Royce knock someone out with strikes? Nope. The only person that is going to stand a chance with Lesnar is going to be Shane Carwin. 11-0 with less than 12 minutes in the octagon. And all you Kimbo fans are going to hate life when he doesn’t even make The Ultimate Fighter Season 10…I would almost bet he will not even make it into the house.

wow whoever wrote this must feel like a idiot know after lesnars destroying everyone.. ahaha would be ready for tim silvia that guy hasnt done fuck all in ages that useless giant basterd would get broke in half by brock… btw fedors a pussy

I have watched them all , and spent lots of money over the years on UFC everything and so far out of UFC fighters we do have shane c. but does he have enough to beat B.lesnor? I don’t care for B.lesnor at all because of the respect deal as well, but i do agree with logan, brock is here to stay for a while! Unless shane gets a lucky punch on stand up, he does not have much of a chance at all. I do like shane C. as well, but brock really is a freek of nature. The only guy that i have seen that would be a good match for brock [ in my opp.] is fedor E……and he still has one more year under contract with affliction/pride.But UFC does not have much on heavy wieghts rite now,and brock is to powerful! Herring, Mirr,Couture and the jap we’re all stepping stones as bad as that sounds but its true! Need more guys. Kimbo was cool to watch on Y.tube , but is totaly out matched and that fight will any time this year or next. pray for shane C. .