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	<title>Comments on: UFC Quick Quote: Chuck Liddell says he has the edge against Shogun; feels he deserved Rampage instead</title>
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		<title>By: Gabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 22:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i was reading a comment on here and it said something like " if this were boxing it would take chuck years to get a title shot again". well that is true. but if you look at chucks record and his acheivements and how he has helped bring the UFC to where it is today more than others have than you could see that chuck deserves a title shot no matter what. I dont care if he looses a rematch for the title and then looses a thrid rematch for the title. He should be able to have a title shot anytime he wants. He has dominated more people in this business than alot of others. He has retired alot of fighters as well. When you spend 10 years in the business and give it everything you have and beat pretty much everyones ass that is handed to u and also when you tear your MCL prior to a fight. at which, during the fight you pop the tendon out on your middle finger on your left hand and continue to beat your opponents face in with that hand to get the victory, like chuck did to tito at UFC 66, I think you deserve whatever you want, whenever you want. Chuck is a pioneer and a hell of a fighter. He has coached Deigo and Forrest and look at them now. They are rising to the top. He has carried this company on his back and he will never give up until he has died in that ring, and that would consider someone beating his ass to the point where he could not defend himself anymore and i personally think that, that will never happen. Love him or hate him but either way you all still talk about him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was reading a comment on here and it said something like &#8221; if this were boxing it would take chuck years to get a title shot again&#8221;. well that is true. but if you look at chucks record and his acheivements and how he has helped bring the UFC to where it is today more than others have than you could see that chuck deserves a title shot no matter what. I dont care if he looses a rematch for the title and then looses a thrid rematch for the title. He should be able to have a title shot anytime he wants. He has dominated more people in this business than alot of others. He has retired alot of fighters as well. When you spend 10 years in the business and give it everything you have and beat pretty much everyones ass that is handed to u and also when you tear your MCL prior to a fight. at which, during the fight you pop the tendon out on your middle finger on your left hand and continue to beat your opponents face in with that hand to get the victory, like chuck did to tito at UFC 66, I think you deserve whatever you want, whenever you want. Chuck is a pioneer and a hell of a fighter. He has coached Deigo and Forrest and look at them now. They are rising to the top. He has carried this company on his back and he will never give up until he has died in that ring, and that would consider someone beating his ass to the point where he could not defend himself anymore and i personally think that, that will never happen. Love him or hate him but either way you all still talk about him.</p>
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		<title>By: ezra b.</title>
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		<dc:creator>ezra b.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 03:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jardine aint got a shot yet cuz Houston Alexander smoked his wierd ass and Chucky got beat by the Queen of Mean so I think they both still have some provin to do but I also think Forest Gump still does to before gettin handed the title shot just cuz he beat a wounded and outta shape Shogun.Oh and Pride fighters do hold the belts and Fedor should still be President!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jardine aint got a shot yet cuz Houston Alexander smoked his wierd ass and Chucky got beat by the Queen of Mean so I think they both still have some provin to do but I also think Forest Gump still does to before gettin handed the title shot just cuz he beat a wounded and outta shape Shogun.Oh and Pride fighters do hold the belts and Fedor should still be President!</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Potato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr Potato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 01:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Chuck needs another fight before he fights Rampage again. He lost to Jardine then beats Silva in on of the best fights I've seen in a long time. If you look what Dana is doing he has brought in Silva and now Shogun who have beaten Rampage before. If Chuck can beat them then there is no doubt that he is  the one to fight for the title next. The dark horse of the UFC light heavy is Jardine though, it will be interesting to see how he goes against Silva when they fight in UFC 84. Maybe if Jardine wins again he should then fight the winner out of Liddell and Shogun because if Rampage beats Chuck easily it would be disastorous. I think there should be a bit of a lead up to it but lets hope Rampage is in shape since he hasn't had a fight for a while. Lets wait and see Chuck is a true champion and I have no doubt in my mind that he will come beat Shogun and whom ever else then completely destroy Rampage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Chuck needs another fight before he fights Rampage again. He lost to Jardine then beats Silva in on of the best fights I&#8217;ve seen in a long time. If you look what Dana is doing he has brought in Silva and now Shogun who have beaten Rampage before. If Chuck can beat them then there is no doubt that he is  the one to fight for the title next. The dark horse of the UFC light heavy is Jardine though, it will be interesting to see how he goes against Silva when they fight in UFC 84. Maybe if Jardine wins again he should then fight the winner out of Liddell and Shogun because if Rampage beats Chuck easily it would be disastorous. I think there should be a bit of a lead up to it but lets hope Rampage is in shape since he hasn&#8217;t had a fight for a while. Lets wait and see Chuck is a true champion and I have no doubt in my mind that he will come beat Shogun and whom ever else then completely destroy Rampage.</p>
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		<title>By: spiderman</title>
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		<dc:creator>spiderman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 04:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>okay, chuck is one of my fav. fighters, but he needs to beat shogun for a potential title shot, and i think once machida whoops titos ass, machida will be #1 contender. i think chuck needs to beat shogun and win a rematch w/ jardine to get a title shot. 
conversely, chuck does have an edge over shogun, and i honestly see chuck catching shogun w/ a big shot that puts him down. chuck wins by KO/TKO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>okay, chuck is one of my fav. fighters, but he needs to beat shogun for a potential title shot, and i think once machida whoops titos ass, machida will be #1 contender. i think chuck needs to beat shogun and win a rematch w/ jardine to get a title shot.<br />
conversely, chuck does have an edge over shogun, and i honestly see chuck catching shogun w/ a big shot that puts him down. chuck wins by KO/TKO.</p>
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		<title>By: KickS</title>
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		<dc:creator>KickS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="318708"][quote comment="317893"]Pride better than the UFC, Chuck? Let's see....

HW champ- Pride fighter
LHW champ- Pride fighter
MW champ- Pride fighter[/quote]

Good time to use the quote, since it won't remain this way very long...

- Nog is old, looked like crap against Silvia and will lose his first title defense
- Rampage will lose to Griffin or Liddell
- Anderson will lose to Hendo, before GSP drops weight to take out Hendo.[/quote]

What the f*** are you talking about? GSP drops weight? he has to gain weight and why would he do that, fight Hendo (a light heavyweight) and GSP would be gaining weight (out of shape) to be fighting even at Middleweight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment=&#8221;318708&#8243;][quote comment=&#8221;317893&#8243;]Pride better than the UFC, Chuck? Let&#8217;s see&#8230;.</p>
<p>HW champ- Pride fighter<br />
LHW champ- Pride fighter<br />
MW champ- Pride fighter[/quote]</p>
<p>Good time to use the quote, since it won&#8217;t remain this way very long&#8230;</p>
<p>- Nog is old, looked like crap against Silvia and will lose his first title defense<br />
- Rampage will lose to Griffin or Liddell<br />
- Anderson will lose to Hendo, before GSP drops weight to take out Hendo.[/quote]</p>
<p>What the f*** are you talking about? GSP drops weight? he has to gain weight and why would he do that, fight Hendo (a light heavyweight) and GSP would be gaining weight (out of shape) to be fighting even at Middleweight.</p>
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		<title>By: KickS</title>
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		<dc:creator>KickS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="325817"][quote comment="317886"]Chuck, STFU. you lost two fights in a row, one of them to kieth jardine for gods sake.  Your win over silva was a "START" in the right direction to "EARN" the right for a title shot. You would have an argument if you might have possibly beat jardine but come on, you lost two in a row, win one fight and you want a title shot? LOL[/quote]

[quote comment="319639"]Yeah, good call. It's sort of confusing to me how the UFC seems to fast track certain fighters to belt fights while others they just seem to let sit on the sidelines no matter how well they do and how much promise they show. Vera was awesome and needs more fights. Vera vs Mir would be fun. Same with Machida, he's been so good, and has shown so much promise, why isn't he getting more fights. Silva too, (the guy who dismatled Alexander)with no defeats yet. Why is Liddel getting all sorts of big fights and time because of one decision win out of three?

I suppose maybe they feel like Chuck's day is dawning and they need to squeeze as much out of him while they still can or something. I sometimes wish this thing was more of a sport and less of a marketing and moneymaking show. Right now is a delicate time for MMA. It's either going to be a fad or it's going to stay and be legit. If people start feeling like there's no legitimacy, the UFC will sink back down to where it was.[/quote]

-I hope potbelly chuck is reading these. if not, he needs to start taking his head out of his ass! or better yet... tell dana to do it for him![/quote]

Vera already beat Mir (First round)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment=&#8221;325817&#8243;][quote comment=&#8221;317886&#8243;]Chuck, STFU. you lost two fights in a row, one of them to kieth jardine for gods sake.  Your win over silva was a &#8220;START&#8221; in the right direction to &#8220;EARN&#8221; the right for a title shot. You would have an argument if you might have possibly beat jardine but come on, you lost two in a row, win one fight and you want a title shot? LOL[/quote]</p>
<p>[quote comment=&#8221;319639&#8243;]Yeah, good call. It&#8217;s sort of confusing to me how the UFC seems to fast track certain fighters to belt fights while others they just seem to let sit on the sidelines no matter how well they do and how much promise they show. Vera was awesome and needs more fights. Vera vs Mir would be fun. Same with Machida, he&#8217;s been so good, and has shown so much promise, why isn&#8217;t he getting more fights. Silva too, (the guy who dismatled Alexander)with no defeats yet. Why is Liddel getting all sorts of big fights and time because of one decision win out of three?</p>
<p>I suppose maybe they feel like Chuck&#8217;s day is dawning and they need to squeeze as much out of him while they still can or something. I sometimes wish this thing was more of a sport and less of a marketing and moneymaking show. Right now is a delicate time for MMA. It&#8217;s either going to be a fad or it&#8217;s going to stay and be legit. If people start feeling like there&#8217;s no legitimacy, the UFC will sink back down to where it was.[/quote]</p>
<p>-I hope potbelly chuck is reading these. if not, he needs to start taking his head out of his ass! or better yet&#8230; tell dana to do it for him![/quote]</p>
<p>Vera already beat Mir (First round)</p>
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		<title>By: KickS</title>
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		<dc:creator>KickS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="317900"]I think it's working exactly as it should for Chuck.  He lost 2 ...so now he needs to win 2 against legit competition.  I have no problem at all with Chuck getting the winner of Rampage vs Forrest if he gets past Shogun.

The real loser in the equation is Jardine.  If Jardine were flashier (more marketable) he would not be getting shoved aside right now.  It's an unfortunate fact in the UFC that flash equals cash and Jardine is skilled but "flashless".[/quote]
I agree, UFC matchup are not based on any ranking, its done based on which fights will gross more money for the UFC.
Chuck should be fighting Houston Alexander before getting a title bout.  Jardine beat Forrest and Chuck, but he lost to Alexander.  
But Shogun fight will be a good test for him, if Shogun shows up in good shape, unlike his last fight against Forrest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment=&#8221;317900&#8243;]I think it&#8217;s working exactly as it should for Chuck.  He lost 2 &#8230;so now he needs to win 2 against legit competition.  I have no problem at all with Chuck getting the winner of Rampage vs Forrest if he gets past Shogun.</p>
<p>The real loser in the equation is Jardine.  If Jardine were flashier (more marketable) he would not be getting shoved aside right now.  It&#8217;s an unfortunate fact in the UFC that flash equals cash and Jardine is skilled but &#8220;flashless&#8221;.[/quote]<br />
I agree, UFC matchup are not based on any ranking, its done based on which fights will gross more money for the UFC.<br />
Chuck should be fighting Houston Alexander before getting a title bout.  Jardine beat Forrest and Chuck, but he lost to Alexander.<br />
But Shogun fight will be a good test for him, if Shogun shows up in good shape, unlike his last fight against Forrest.</p>
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		<title>By: blah</title>
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		<dc:creator>blah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 10:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="317886"]Chuck, STFU. you lost two fights in a row, one of them to kieth jardine for gods sake.  Your win over silva was a "START" in the right direction to "EARN" the right for a title shot. You would have an argument if you might have possibly beat jardine but come on, you lost two in a row, win one fight and you want a title shot? LOL[/quote]


[quote comment="319639"]Yeah, good call. It's sort of confusing to me how the UFC seems to fast track certain fighters to belt fights while others they just seem to let sit on the sidelines no matter how well they do and how much promise they show. Vera was awesome and needs more fights. Vera vs Mir would be fun. Same with Machida, he's been so good, and has shown so much promise, why isn't he getting more fights. Silva too, (the guy who dismatled Alexander)with no defeats yet. Why is Liddel getting all sorts of big fights and time because of one decision win out of three?

I suppose maybe they feel like Chuck's day is dawning and they need to squeeze as much out of him while they still can or something. I sometimes wish this thing was more of a sport and less of a marketing and moneymaking show. Right now is a delicate time for MMA. It's either going to be a fad or it's going to stay and be legit. If people start feeling like there's no legitimacy, the UFC will sink back down to where it was.[/quote]

-I hope potbelly chuck is reading these. if not, he needs to start taking his head out of his ass! or better yet... tell dana to do it for him!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment=&#8221;317886&#8243;]Chuck, STFU. you lost two fights in a row, one of them to kieth jardine for gods sake.  Your win over silva was a &#8220;START&#8221; in the right direction to &#8220;EARN&#8221; the right for a title shot. You would have an argument if you might have possibly beat jardine but come on, you lost two in a row, win one fight and you want a title shot? LOL[/quote]</p>
<p>[quote comment=&#8221;319639&#8243;]Yeah, good call. It&#8217;s sort of confusing to me how the UFC seems to fast track certain fighters to belt fights while others they just seem to let sit on the sidelines no matter how well they do and how much promise they show. Vera was awesome and needs more fights. Vera vs Mir would be fun. Same with Machida, he&#8217;s been so good, and has shown so much promise, why isn&#8217;t he getting more fights. Silva too, (the guy who dismatled Alexander)with no defeats yet. Why is Liddel getting all sorts of big fights and time because of one decision win out of three?</p>
<p>I suppose maybe they feel like Chuck&#8217;s day is dawning and they need to squeeze as much out of him while they still can or something. I sometimes wish this thing was more of a sport and less of a marketing and moneymaking show. Right now is a delicate time for MMA. It&#8217;s either going to be a fad or it&#8217;s going to stay and be legit. If people start feeling like there&#8217;s no legitimacy, the UFC will sink back down to where it was.[/quote]</p>
<p>-I hope potbelly chuck is reading these. if not, he needs to start taking his head out of his ass! or better yet&#8230; tell dana to do it for him!</p>
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		<title>By: areyoujellin</title>
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		<dc:creator>areyoujellin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the first sentance was supposed to say 
 "This is exactly what chuck should NOT have to do for a title shot"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the first sentance was supposed to say<br />
 &#8220;This is exactly what chuck should NOT have to do for a title shot&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: areyoujellin</title>
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		<dc:creator>areyoujellin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote post="5001"] If Jardine beats Wanderlei then Liddell definately shouldnt get a title shot before either Machida or Jardine. He needs to at least prove himself against one or the other. [/quote]
This is exactly what chuck should have to do for a title shot, he already proved that he is in the top 3 LHW for the last like 5 fucking years, so for anyone to say he needs to EARN a title shot? what the fuck is that!!! he gets caught once, has a controversial fight and everone says he's done. It just shows who is fan and who is just jumping on the bandwagon of an upcoming fight. The only reason he isnt fighting Rampage next is because that black monster has to rip off griffin's head first. Chuck has paid his UFC dues and does not need to prove himself against up and comers like Machida...those are the people who need to earn fights against the Iceman, not the other way around.
And how can anyone say Machida deservs a title shot? he has 4 straight wins in the octagon(jon fitch has 7).....4!!!! and not even against anybody significant. Even when he beats tito he still will not get a title shot. He still has to prove himself against top level competition befre he even starts to think about a belt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote post=&#8221;5001&#8243;] If Jardine beats Wanderlei then Liddell definately shouldnt get a title shot before either Machida or Jardine. He needs to at least prove himself against one or the other. [/quote]<br />
This is exactly what chuck should have to do for a title shot, he already proved that he is in the top 3 LHW for the last like 5 fucking years, so for anyone to say he needs to EARN a title shot? what the fuck is that!!! he gets caught once, has a controversial fight and everone says he&#8217;s done. It just shows who is fan and who is just jumping on the bandwagon of an upcoming fight. The only reason he isnt fighting Rampage next is because that black monster has to rip off griffin&#8217;s head first. Chuck has paid his UFC dues and does not need to prove himself against up and comers like Machida&#8230;those are the people who need to earn fights against the Iceman, not the other way around.<br />
And how can anyone say Machida deservs a title shot? he has 4 straight wins in the octagon(jon fitch has 7)&#8230;..4!!!! and not even against anybody significant. Even when he beats tito he still will not get a title shot. He still has to prove himself against top level competition befre he even starts to think about a belt.</p>
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