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		<title>By: Kimbo gets his bread: EliteXC fighter payouts and salaries for &#8216;Street Certified&#8217; at UFC blog for UFC news, results, videos, rumors, fights, pics and tickets &#8212; MMAmania.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kimbo gets his bread: EliteXC fighter payouts and salaries for &#8216;Street Certified&#8217; at UFC blog for UFC news, results, videos, rumors, fights, pics and tickets &#8212; MMAmania.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For EliteXC: &#8220;Street Certified&#8221; results coverage click here and here.       &#160;&#160;&#160;    &#160;  &#160;   February 20th, 2008 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For EliteXC: &#8220;Street Certified&#8221; results coverage click here and here.       &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;    &nbsp;  &nbsp;   February 20th, 2008 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: cpit</title>
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		<dc:creator>cpit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 05:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just an aside, prostitution is not legal in Clark County (where Las Vegas is). 

but that certainly doesn&#039;t slow down the business much!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just an aside, prostitution is not legal in Clark County (where Las Vegas is). </p>
<p>but that certainly doesn&#8217;t slow down the business much!</p>
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		<title>By: Mad A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mad A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, you weren&#039;t kidding about Yves&#039; knockout! Here is the whole fight: http://youtube.com/watch?v=e3S3oBkNOGo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, you weren&#8217;t kidding about Yves&#8217; knockout! Here is the whole fight: <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=e3S3oBkNOGo" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=e3S3oBkNOGo</a></p>
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		<title>By: J.R. King</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.R. King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 03:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he&#039;s a gold mine though. marketing galore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he&#8217;s a gold mine though. marketing galore.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re going to be really careful with Kimbo. He&#039;s a money machine and any instant loss brings his value and marketability down. They&#039;ll match him up against bums until they absolutely have to match him up against more skill, slowly getting him entertaining wins. This also gives him time to get his skills honed. Bo is a fighter like the rest of them. He&#039;s in good shape and there&#039;s no reason why he can&#039;t learn the rest of mma skills. What is it about wrestling or Judo that can&#039;t be learned beyond hard work? Any idiot can learn this stuff with enough time and work ethic! Bo already has raw skill so he has plenty of potential. Just because he started out as a street brawler doesn&#039;t mean he can&#039;t expand his skill base.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re going to be really careful with Kimbo. He&#8217;s a money machine and any instant loss brings his value and marketability down. They&#8217;ll match him up against bums until they absolutely have to match him up against more skill, slowly getting him entertaining wins. This also gives him time to get his skills honed. Bo is a fighter like the rest of them. He&#8217;s in good shape and there&#8217;s no reason why he can&#8217;t learn the rest of mma skills. What is it about wrestling or Judo that can&#8217;t be learned beyond hard work? Any idiot can learn this stuff with enough time and work ethic! Bo already has raw skill so he has plenty of potential. Just because he started out as a street brawler doesn&#8217;t mean he can&#8217;t expand his skill base.</p>
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		<title>By: TD</title>
		<link>http://mmamania.com/2008/02/17/elitexc-street-certified-fight-recap-and-final-thoughts/comment-page-2/#comment-318592</link>
		<dc:creator>TD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You&#039;ve Tito Ortiz,one of the biggest,most recognized MMA guys
dating Jenna Jameson,world&#039;s most known sex-performer.UFC is
based out of Las Vegas,where prostitution is legal and all
sorts of vice is permitted.Routinely,porn-starlets&amp;Dennis Hof
and his Bunny-Ranch whores are in attendance,sometimes even
backstage,at weigh-ins,etc.And didn&#039;t I hear Pitbull Arlovski
dates a Penthouse Pet?

As an aside,I saw a pic here where Chuck Liddell was at a party looking very drunk and next to him was a guy/girl
dancing half naked.

I don&#039;t necessarily agree any of this is in the best long-term interests of the sport,but it is what it is.To get POed
at Kimbo alone is a tad disingenious. &quot;

You have great examples about the audience but I have yet to see the next Rambo film advertised along with Bang Bros. I haven&#039;t looked at the Octagon mat and seen the Xbox360 emblem next to the M.I.L.F. Hunter. Those are personal life examples, and believe me I am not faulting them for that, but Tito and Arlovski are not posting up Penthouse or &quot;Jenna&#039;s Wild Nights&quot; on their T-shirts or mentioning them after the fights in their promotions. If MMA breaks into mainstream (ESPN or ABC), I strongly believe those folks you mentioned will not get the camera time in the audience. Nobody&#039;s Poed at Kimbo, I made a suggestion that MAY help the sport and him break out. I don&#039;t think folks want to watch MMA and have to deal with a bunch of donkeys running around with a &quot;Reality Kings&quot; Banner during every break (as was the case at UM during EliteXC&#039;s show). 

And UFC is based in Las Vegas because of the licensing. In most states, MMA organizations fight an uphill battle (I&#039;ll stand corrected if I&#039;m wrong but I think thats the case).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You&#8217;ve Tito Ortiz,one of the biggest,most recognized MMA guys<br />
dating Jenna Jameson,world&#8217;s most known sex-performer.UFC is<br />
based out of Las Vegas,where prostitution is legal and all<br />
sorts of vice is permitted.Routinely,porn-starlets&amp;Dennis Hof<br />
and his Bunny-Ranch whores are in attendance,sometimes even<br />
backstage,at weigh-ins,etc.And didn&#8217;t I hear Pitbull Arlovski<br />
dates a Penthouse Pet?</p>
<p>As an aside,I saw a pic here where Chuck Liddell was at a party looking very drunk and next to him was a guy/girl<br />
dancing half naked.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t necessarily agree any of this is in the best long-term interests of the sport,but it is what it is.To get POed<br />
at Kimbo alone is a tad disingenious. &#8221;</p>
<p>You have great examples about the audience but I have yet to see the next Rambo film advertised along with Bang Bros. I haven&#8217;t looked at the Octagon mat and seen the Xbox360 emblem next to the M.I.L.F. Hunter. Those are personal life examples, and believe me I am not faulting them for that, but Tito and Arlovski are not posting up Penthouse or &#8220;Jenna&#8217;s Wild Nights&#8221; on their T-shirts or mentioning them after the fights in their promotions. If MMA breaks into mainstream (ESPN or ABC), I strongly believe those folks you mentioned will not get the camera time in the audience. Nobody&#8217;s Poed at Kimbo, I made a suggestion that MAY help the sport and him break out. I don&#8217;t think folks want to watch MMA and have to deal with a bunch of donkeys running around with a &#8220;Reality Kings&#8221; Banner during every break (as was the case at UM during EliteXC&#8217;s show). </p>
<p>And UFC is based in Las Vegas because of the licensing. In most states, MMA organizations fight an uphill battle (I&#8217;ll stand corrected if I&#8217;m wrong but I think thats the case).</p>
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		<title>By: casualview</title>
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		<dc:creator>casualview</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMO,Kimbo is WAY overrated,that gets discussed enough.He prob.
would not get half the hate he does,if his handlers didn&#039;t
tout him as the &quot;Next Big Thig&quot; and match him w/bums.

Unfortunately,w/MMA in general and EliteXC in particular,it&#039;s
a buisness;they&#039;ll milk this guy &#039;til he&#039;s exposed.

What I really wanted to comment on was the porn/MMA connection

Granted,a porn company as a sponsor is funny,but prob. not
smart.However,to claim it as an albatross is a bit overboard.

You&#039;ve Tito Ortiz,one of the biggest,most recognized MMA guys
dating Jenna Jameson,world&#039;s most known sex-performer.UFC is
based out of Las Vegas,where prostitution is legal and all
sorts of vice is permitted.Routinely,porn-starlets&amp;Dennis Hof
and his Bunny-Ranch whores are in attendance,sometimes even
backstage,at weigh-ins,etc.And didn&#039;t I hear Pitbull Arlovski
dates a Penthouse Pet?

As an aside,I saw a pic here where Chuck Liddell was at a party looking very drunk and next to him was a guy/girl
dancing half naked.

I don&#039;t necessarily agree any of this is in the best long-term interests of the sport,but it is what it is.To get POed
at Kimbo alone is a tad disingenious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMO,Kimbo is WAY overrated,that gets discussed enough.He prob.<br />
would not get half the hate he does,if his handlers didn&#8217;t<br />
tout him as the &#8220;Next Big Thig&#8221; and match him w/bums.</p>
<p>Unfortunately,w/MMA in general and EliteXC in particular,it&#8217;s<br />
a buisness;they&#8217;ll milk this guy &#8217;til he&#8217;s exposed.</p>
<p>What I really wanted to comment on was the porn/MMA connection</p>
<p>Granted,a porn company as a sponsor is funny,but prob. not<br />
smart.However,to claim it as an albatross is a bit overboard.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve Tito Ortiz,one of the biggest,most recognized MMA guys<br />
dating Jenna Jameson,world&#8217;s most known sex-performer.UFC is<br />
based out of Las Vegas,where prostitution is legal and all<br />
sorts of vice is permitted.Routinely,porn-starlets&amp;Dennis Hof<br />
and his Bunny-Ranch whores are in attendance,sometimes even<br />
backstage,at weigh-ins,etc.And didn&#8217;t I hear Pitbull Arlovski<br />
dates a Penthouse Pet?</p>
<p>As an aside,I saw a pic here where Chuck Liddell was at a party looking very drunk and next to him was a guy/girl<br />
dancing half naked.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t necessarily agree any of this is in the best long-term interests of the sport,but it is what it is.To get POed<br />
at Kimbo alone is a tad disingenious.</p>
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		<title>By: Elvis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Put him up against Sean Gannon again guarantee he gets crushed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Put him up against Sean Gannon again guarantee he gets crushed</p>
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		<title>By: J.R. King</title>
		<link>http://mmamania.com/2008/02/17/elitexc-street-certified-fight-recap-and-final-thoughts/comment-page-2/#comment-318051</link>
		<dc:creator>J.R. King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was the trashiest display of performance I have ever seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was the trashiest display of performance I have ever seen.</p>
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		<title>By: Raul</title>
		<link>http://mmamania.com/2008/02/17/elitexc-street-certified-fight-recap-and-final-thoughts/comment-page-2/#comment-318034</link>
		<dc:creator>Raul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True enough SaVaGe. I do have to admit that while loving the BJJ aspect and mat-supremacy aspect of the sport, of course that a good KO absolutely makes me grab my head and scream a profanity into the room, as hey- it definitely is exciting seeing a well timed shot shutting someone&#039;s lights off. 
Problem begins when a brutal KO is ALL the fans want to see. I&#039;ll take an armbar over a KO any day of the week, it&#039;s simply that much more exciting to me, though I understand of course the issue of different strokes.

I do hope you&#039;re right about the hope some of the fans brought in by names such as Tank and Kimbo will stay and learn to enjoy amazingly gifted fighters who do not neccessarily rush in with the 1 shot 1 kill mentality.

Glad I started posting btw, after enjoying lurking on this blog for a few good months now :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True enough SaVaGe. I do have to admit that while loving the BJJ aspect and mat-supremacy aspect of the sport, of course that a good KO absolutely makes me grab my head and scream a profanity into the room, as hey- it definitely is exciting seeing a well timed shot shutting someone&#8217;s lights off.<br />
Problem begins when a brutal KO is ALL the fans want to see. I&#8217;ll take an armbar over a KO any day of the week, it&#8217;s simply that much more exciting to me, though I understand of course the issue of different strokes.</p>
<p>I do hope you&#8217;re right about the hope some of the fans brought in by names such as Tank and Kimbo will stay and learn to enjoy amazingly gifted fighters who do not neccessarily rush in with the 1 shot 1 kill mentality.</p>
<p>Glad I started posting btw, after enjoying lurking on this blog for a few good months now <img src='http://mmamania.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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