BJ’s gonna beat on Sherk. Steroid withdrawal is gonna hurt Sherk. Just look at the baseball players who got off the juice, they became shit.

BJ will beat sherk for sure, he has all the tools to neutralize all skill that sherk has,
the only trouble for penn in this fight is if he gassed.
but if he has enough cardio for 5 rounds in ufc 84, then this fight is already in his bag

I am so ready for this fight to happen. Put him in a body bag B.J.!

I like how he says that the people taking sports enhancement drugs are not real fighters, and then the next sentence he says that sherk is a great fighter

anyway, BJ please when this fight, you have talked to much not to

Retire him Penn!

“The Muscle Shark” has a bottomless tank of stamina, which going into the fight seems to be his one true advantage (strength being the other).

Good math. One true advantage, then list a second. Wrestling and speed also would have to go to Sherk’s advantage. Power (i.e. punching power) which is different than the strength has to go to Penn. JJ obviously Penn. Man, this is going to be a fantastic fight! So evenly matched. Is it May yet? Maybe they can change the schedule to put this on UFN 13 since that card is being ridiculously packed anyhow.

Talk is cheap re your cardio BJ… get on that treadmill.!

I’m as bigger fan of BJ as there is but i can see this going one of two ways,

BJ early or Sherk late. Its that simple.

Another BJ vs Hughes..
First 2 rounds, if fight isn’t even over by BJ..Sherk wins it.
And because BJ is that much talented, he should be the victor.

Penn has only had a week off after winning the title and was back training. BJ has realised that if he wants to be a true legend he has to put the work in & be able to go the distance.

Kudos for him getting back into camp so early & training to beat Sherk at what he is known for, his cardio.

We all know BJ has fantastic BJJ and that he has a tendancy to gas if the fight goes on but now he is truely ready to stamp his mark on MMA and become the future hall of famer he should be.

I just hope he is also bench pressing 155 lbs so he can lift Sherk of him while he tries to lay on him for 25 mins!!

I hope BJ is benching more than 155…

I love hearing these two guys run thier mouths back and forth. I for one, am looking forward to the stare down at the wiegh ins!

Sherk is going to lay on him for ten minutes, BJ is going to get tired, Then Sherk is going to throw elbow after elbow until BJ is A) KTFO B) Dead C)Bleeding D) Its the end of the fight. Im pulling for the underdog, sherk ,in this one. That belt is his and everyone knows it, I fully know that he didn’t take steroids, everyone should. Its just another government agency that goes unchecked and can do what ever they want. WAR SHERK!!!!!

[quote comment="309595"]Penn has only had a week off after winning the title and was back training. BJ has realised that if he wants to be a true legend he has to put the work in & be able to go the distance.

Kudos for him getting back into camp so early & training to beat Sherk at what he is known for, his cardio.

We all know BJ has fantastic BJJ and that he has a tendancy to gas if the fight goes on but now he is truely ready to stamp his mark on MMA and become the future hall of famer he should be.

I just hope he is also bench pressing 155 lbs so he can lift Sherk of him while he tries to lay on him for 25 mins!![/quote]

I agree. It was very smart of BJ of not taking much time off after the win over stevenson. He was in great shape for that fight and jumping right back into training can only mean he will have even better cardio for the sherk fight.

I think Penn will beat Sherk a lot easier then many of you think. Its going to be a one-sided beating simular to what Penn did to Joe Daddy…

This will be an awesome fight. Can’t wait.

The only way BJ Penn shows Sean Sherk what “cardio” really is, is if he shows him tapes of Sherk’s fights.

Since when did BJ Penn become a guy who can go 25 minutes ? He strings together 2 wins and all of a sudden he is a born again dedicated cardio machine ?

I DONT BUY IT

BJ says his cardio is great now, but in the fight with stevenson it really didn’t look that way.. at the beginning of the second round it looked like he was worried watching how fresh joe was even if he he had got battered..

I say this fight is 50 / 50

[quote comment="309612"]I hope BJ is benching more than 155…

I love hearing these two guys run thier mouths back and forth. I for one, am looking forward to the stare down at the wiegh ins![/quote]

Me Too!! If BJ wins this fight, I will recognize him as the real deal from now on…..

I agree sherk didn’t use steroids..

It should be a good fight; can’t wait.

Sherk is crap at finishing fights… BJ will finish him… if he doesn’t i still think BJ gets a decision based on being the only fighter was actively trying to finish the fight in the eyes of the judges…

I tip BJ to school Sherk the way GSP recently schooled Matt the Prat Hughes

I dont really like either fighter but I cant wait to see this one. If Sherk is gonna win its gonna go 5 rounds. The guy couldnt finish Hermes Franca so I dont think hes gonna finish BJ. BJ looked good in his last fight and think he can win in the first couple rounds. Remember GSP destroyed Sherk. BJ could do something similar. Love the matchup cant wait to see who wins this one.

[quote comment="309658"]BJ says his cardio is great now, but in the fight with stevenson it really didn’t look that way.. at the beginning of the second round it looked like he was worried watching how fresh joe was even if he he had got battered..

I say this fight is 50 / 50[/quote]
I agree with this, this fight could go either way, just like hughes vs penn 2. That was an amazing fight, I’d say the fight of the year. Styles make fights and I see this as being a much more competitive fight than most seen to give it. I can garantee it won’t be like stevenson/penn it will be a good fight.

[quote comment="309630"]Sherk is going to lay on him for ten minutes, BJ is going to get tired, Then Sherk is going to throw elbow after elbow until BJ is A) KTFO B) Dead C)Bleeding D) Its the end of the fight. Im pulling for the underdog, sherk ,in this one. That belt is his and everyone knows it, I fully know that he didn’t take steroids, everyone should. Its just another government agency that goes unchecked and can do what ever they want. WAR SHERK!!!!![/quote]
I totallly agree. I want Sherk to f’n destroy Penn. Beat the shit out if him!

hughes/gsp/sherk/diego/karo would all be good fights to fight penn even throw koscheck in there penn doesn’t walk through any of these guys, hell even throw serra into the mix and you’d have a good fight.

Everyone seems to forget that Sherks only strength is to work from the top position. You put him on his back like Hughes and GSP did, and he doesn’t stand a chance. BJ has one of the best top control. Very few people that he has taken top position on are successful in either standing back up, and or sweeping him. Just look at the Machida fight. Even Machida who is a great JJ guys as well, and is/was much bigger than BJ, could not get from off of his back once BJ got top control. Sherk is strong and does have great cardio, but seriously, his ground game is totally lacking to the likes of BJ. On the opposite side, even from off of his back, BJ managed to sweep and take back control from his back, against one of the best G n P guys out there (Hughes), albeit he separated a rib but you still see the talent that Penn really has…

I can’t wait to see this fight! I’ll be on my honeymoon so my bro better tape it, lol!

I really want BJ to get this one as it would cement him as one of UFC’s all time greats, cause Sherk (roids or not) is by any means a slouch (have you seen that work out! INSANE.. my eye’s were sore the next day from watchin that ish). With that said, I really hope BJ stay’s away from all these blogs man. BJ’s head should be past FULL with everyone feedin him gas.

His ground game and KO power are truly one of a kind, but he can’t let up for a second in his training just cause most everyone believes he’s gonna win .

DONT LISTEN TO THE CLONES BJ, you’ll be spittin out peices of knucklbow for a week if you take Musclehead lightly.

What the hell, here’s more gas for ya, BJ submits SS in 3.

Sincerely,

One of the clones

[quote comment="309652"]The only way BJ Penn shows Sean Sherk what “cardio” really is, is if he shows him tapes of Sherk’s fights.

Since when did BJ Penn become a guy who can go 25 minutes ? He strings together 2 wins and all of a sudden he is a born again dedicated cardio machine ?

I DONT BUY IT[/quote]
BJ has been in two 25 minute wars all the way to the finish dude. Do some research. And Sherk can go the distance when he just lays on top of someone, but can he actualy fight for 25 minutes, not just lay down, i can lay down for 25 minutes LoL With BJ he will have to fight all 25, dodging punches, defending take downs, going for take downs, grappleing in the clinch, defending subs . . . We’ll see huh.

N[quote comment="309789"][quote comment="309652"]The only way BJ Penn shows Sean Sherk what “cardio” really is, is if he shows him tapes of Sherk’s fights.

Since when did BJ Penn become a guy who can go 25 minutes ? He strings together 2 wins and all of a sudden he is a born again dedicated cardio machine ?

I DONT BUY IT[/quote]
BJ has been in two 25 minute wars all the way to the finish dude. Do some research. And Sherk can go the distance when he just lays on top of someone, but can he actualy fight for 25 minutes, not just lay down, i can lay down for 25 minutes LoL With BJ he will have to fight all 25, dodging punches, defending take downs, going for take downs, grappleing in the clinch, defending subs . . . We’ll see huh.[/quote]
Not to mention all the 3 round decisions he has faught (GSP, Renzo, Machida) Who has Sherk gone 25 minutes with, Florian and Hermes, thats it, its not like he’s faught 30 straight 25 minute fights, in fact i think those are the only two and he was on roids for atleast one of them huh. ALL FACTS!

[quote comment="309757"][quote comment="309630"]Sherk is going to lay on him for ten minutes, BJ is going to get tired, Then Sherk is going to throw elbow after elbow until BJ is A) KTFO B) Dead C)Bleeding D) Its the end of the fight. Im pulling for the underdog, sherk ,in this one. That belt is his and everyone knows it, I fully know that he didn’t take steroids, everyone should. Its just another government agency that goes unchecked and can do what ever they want. WAR SHERK!!!!![/quote]
I totallly agree. I want Sherk to f’n destroy Penn. Beat the shit out if him![/quote]
For your theory to be correct Sherk would have to take BJ down twice in the first 10 minutes of the fight. Atleast come with a realistic prediction LoL

[quote comment="309670"]I agree sherk didn’t use steroids..[/quote]

A little thing, called a “Urine Test” says otherwise, and i believe that over the word of a cheater (sherk) and an internet poster (you).

What about a little thing called a blood test?
But that’s beside the point.

I think Penn is fronting. He is probably the most naturally talented fighter in the world, but he and Sherk will not be on the same level of cardio come May 24.

Don’t forget that frustration can drain the gas tank. That works against both fighters. BJ could tire easily if he is frustrated by being taken down. Sherk may tire if he is unable to secure a takedown after many attempts.

I like to think about the stand up. Sherk has a rock chin and so does BJ. BJ has reach and Sherk has a wicked hook. I love the fight all around. I am picking Sherk, but its a tough fight to call. The line should be interesting. I would bet that both guys come out as favorites. If not though perhaps Sherk would be a small dog. 105 or so.

I think both fighters are terrific but I believe Sean Sherk will come out the victor. Sean’s losses have only come at higher weight divisions — at 155 I believe he’s unbeatable. Regardless, it should be a great fight.

With all the intangible strengths, weaknesses, and stats, you have to look at how each fighter did against the best: GSP.

Sherk was demolished by GSP on the feet and ground. He didn’t land any punches and GSP had barely broken a sweat by the time sherk was tk’od.

Penn, on the other hand, is the only fighter we’ve seen that can stand w/GSP (serra doesn’t count). Despite the eye-poke penn just seemed more technical on his feet. To take a round from GSP is truly an accomplishment.

I see sherk coming out with this lameass lay’n'pray like he always does. To bad for sherk penn has sick jits and WILL find a submission.

bj will tear sherk up

He has only had two fights at 155, but I agree. I don’t think there is anyone at 155 that will beat him. There are guys that can beat him, but I don’t think any of them will.

BJ via armbar

Sherk has no arm to bar.

[quote comment="309818"][quote comment="309670"]I agree sherk didn’t use steroids..[/quote]

A little thing, called a “Urine Test” says otherwise, and i believe that over the word of a cheater (sherk) and an internet poster (you).[/quote]

who cares what you believe..

[quote comment="309880"]He has only had two fights at 155, but I agree. I don’t think there is anyone at 155 that will beat him. There are guys that can beat him, but I don’t think any of them will.[/quote]
BJ has had many more than 2 fights at 155, like 9. Beating the likes of Serra, Gomi, Uno, Thomas, Pulver, Stevenson, and a few other no namers that dont exist anymore. Sherk has lost or gone to a decision with and TOP 5 contenders he has faced in any weight class he has faught in. Bj fights from LTWT TO HVWT, all weight classes and fighters that are much much much stronger/taller then himself and sherk for example Rodrigo Gracie and Renzo Gracie at 180 lbs, Lyotto Machida at 205 lbs, Hughes, GSP, Ludwig etc. Bj looks for the best and challenges them, sherk looks for an easy way to a title (dropping to a lower weight class) Which BJ did also but he was already and is naturaly belonging to that weight class and did it after going all the way up to Heavyweight.

[quote comment="309921"][quote comment="309818"][quote comment="309670"]I agree sherk didn’t use steroids..[/quote]

A little thing, called a “Urine Test” says otherwise, and i believe that over the word of a cheater (sherk) and an internet poster (you).[/quote]

who cares what you believe.. [/quote]
Just look at Sherk, WTF is your reasoning to believe he doesnt use??? Look at his body and the fact that hes a cardio freak (or was i should say) and put two and two together both those are results of steroid use. Atleast we know one thing for sure, BJ doesnt use steroids and won both his belts with raw fighting talent, and he was out of shape, pure talent!!!

[quote comment="309854"]I think both fighters are terrific but I believe Sean Sherk will come out the victor. Sean’s losses have only come at higher weight divisions — at 155 I believe he’s unbeatable. Regardless, it should be a great fight.[/quote]
“Weight divisions” ??? Sherk has only faught at one other weight division, no division(s), Bj has faught at all weight division and won in them all except against Lyotto who is still undefeated so i consider taking Lyotto the distance good enough for a natural Lightweight who is like 7 inchs smaller then Lyotto. He took Lyotto much further than Franklin and Bonnar and didnt get knocked out by Lyotto like they both did. Draw your own conclusions . . .

[quote comment="309496"]I am so ready for this fight to happen. Put him in a body bag B.J.![/quote]
i hate to upset u people but fat bj has no shot if this fight sees the 2nd round,,,his fat but has no cardio…i cant wait till sherk punks him out

bj should follow chuck into the ifl

OKAY MMAMANIA readers do you know what movie line BJ is ripping off “im going to show this man of cardio what cardio really is” ??????? anyone?
Sounds like BJ Penn is a Usual Suspects fan. Verbal Kint: “Then he showed these men of WILL what WILL really was.”

CAN YOU DIG IT BABY MMMMMMM CHILD.

BJ must be huffing gas if he thinks his cardio is better then sherks

the new ifl team is called the has beens

heavyweight-cro cop
light heavyweight-over-rated chucky
middleweight-rich franklin
welterweight-matt serra,,,hes a joke people
lightweight-is there any doubt bj penn

hopefully this time has a chance in the ifl

[quote comment="309986"]the new ifl team is called the has beens

heavyweight-cro cop
light heavyweight-over-rated chucky
middleweight-rich franklin
welterweight-matt serra,,,hes a joke people
lightweight-is there any doubt bj penn

hopefully this time has a chance in the ifl[/quote]
I think you’re the joke. Is there any doubt people, no.

Hahahaha … Sherk fans.

[quote comment="309940"][quote comment="309880"]He has only had two fights at 155, but I agree. I don’t think there is anyone at 155 that will beat him. There are guys that can beat him, but I don’t think any of them will.[/quote]
BJ has had many more than 2 fights at 155, like 9. Beating the likes of Serra, Gomi, Uno, Thomas, Pulver, Stevenson, and a few other no namers that dont exist anymore. Sherk has lost or gone to a decision with and TOP 5 contenders he has faced in any weight class he has faught in. Bj fights from LTWT TO HVWT, all weight classes and fighters that are much much much stronger/taller then himself and sherk for example Rodrigo Gracie and Renzo Gracie at 180 lbs, Lyotto Machida at 205 lbs, Hughes, GSP, Ludwig etc. Bj looks for the best and challenges them, sherk looks for an easy way to a title (dropping to a lower weight class) Which BJ did also but he was already and is naturaly belonging to that weight class and did it after going all the way up to Heavyweight.[/quote]

I’m not retarded. My comment was in response to Rob’s. I didn’t notice the comments in between.

[quote comment="309652"]The only way BJ Penn shows Sean Sherk what “cardio” really is, is if he shows him tapes of Sherk’s fights.

Since when did BJ Penn become a guy who can go 25 minutes ? He strings together 2 wins and all of a sudden he is a born again dedicated cardio machine ?

I DONT BUY IT[/quote]

LOL It’s not like fans are just speculating from watching 2 fights. He actually said himself that he has now dedicated himself to cardio. I don’t see why he would lie about training. Do you think he just said that and is now sitting on his couch eating a pizza?

Whether you buy it or not he’s gonna smash Sherk.

[quote comment="309658"]BJ says his cardio is great now, but in the fight with stevenson it really didn’t look that way.. at the beginning of the second round it looked like he was worried watching how fresh joe was even if he he had got battered..

I say this fight is 50 / 50[/quote]

Yeah I’m sure he was so worried that he outboxed him, dropped him with a combination dominated ground position and finished with an RNC. Yup, definitely looked worried in that 2nd round. [/sarcasm]

[quote comment="310014"][quote comment="309940"][quote comment="309880"]He has only had two fights at 155, but I agree. I don’t think there is anyone at 155 that will beat him. There are guys that can beat him, but I don’t think any of them will.[/quote]
BJ has had many more than 2 fights at 155, like 9. Beating the likes of Serra, Gomi, Uno, Thomas, Pulver, Stevenson, and a few other no namers that dont exist anymore. Sherk has lost or gone to a decision with and TOP 5 contenders he has faced in any weight class he has faught in. Bj fights from LTWT TO HVWT, all weight classes and fighters that are much much much stronger/taller then himself and sherk for example Rodrigo Gracie and Renzo Gracie at 180 lbs, Lyotto Machida at 205 lbs, Hughes, GSP, Ludwig etc. Bj looks for the best and challenges them, sherk looks for an easy way to a title (dropping to a lower weight class) Which BJ did also but he was already and is naturaly belonging to that weight class and did it after going all the way up to Heavyweight.[/quote]

I’m not retarded. My comment was in response to Rob’s. I didn’t notice the comments in between.[/quote]
Oh, so you think that Sherk is unstopable at 155? i enjoy the opinions of others, and wouldnt bash them for it, if it wasnt for you guys there would be no one to argue/debate with therefor no forum therefor no fun to build on while waiting for these epic battle to ensue. Please, tell me your reasoning for thinking Sherk is unstopable at 155, you dont even think Gomi (who Penn beat) would give him a run for his unearned money??

I’ll bet on Sherk’s cardio over BJ’s any day. If Sherk was more of a lay n pray fighter he’d smash BJ; he’s going to have an easy time getting BJ on his back, the problem is he’s probably going to lay there until something actually happens. BJ is disgustingly overrated but Sherk is not even close to well rounded, which probably gives the edge to BJ. If this fight took place in a bar BJ would land one shot and then end up in a trash can.

(stuffed) in a trash can

Sherk might actually win this fight believe it or not. I think he will take Penn down easily and out work him. Maybe GnP or take it to a decision.

GD, ^ If Sherk was LESS of a lay n pray fighter he’d smash BJ…

[quote comment="310054"][quote comment="309658"]BJ says his cardio is great now, but in the fight with stevenson it really didn’t look that way.. at the beginning of the second round it looked like he was worried watching how fresh joe was even if he he had got battered..

I say this fight is 50 / 50[/quote]

Yeah I’m sure he was so worried that he outboxed him, dropped him with a combination dominated ground position and finished with an RNC. Yup, definitely looked worried in that 2nd round. [/sarcasm][/quote]
If you watch that fight again, at the start of the second round BJ’s corner is telling BJ to “Let Him Go” meaning let Joe calm down from the “rush” Joe had going through himself from the possible cut stoppage, so BJ outboxed him slowly for a few minutes then once Joe lost that adrenaline BJ pounced on him. Thats smart, cautious, not wanting to make a mistake fighting, not a worried fighter. LoL Joe looked so scared for the entire fight except that 20 seconds. When BJ dragged him over to the cage in the first minute of the fight Joe looked sooo scarred that i felt bad for him. That look and Franklins look in Silvas clinch were the most worried ive ever seen a fighter. Almost to tears dude.

[quote comment="310085"]Sherk might actually win this fight believe it or not. I think he will take Penn down easily and out work him. Maybe GnP or take it to a decision.[/quote]
GSP and Hughes and Renzo Gracie had lots of trouble with taking BJ down and he was out of shape then. Now, LoL, its just not an easy task bottom line.

[quote comment="310096"][quote comment="310054"][quote comment="309658"]BJ says his cardio is great now, but in the fight with stevenson it really didn’t look that way.. at the beginning of the second round it looked like he was worried watching how fresh joe was even if he he had got battered..

I say this fight is 50 / 50[/quote]

Yeah I’m sure he was so worried that he outboxed him, dropped him with a combination dominated ground position and finished with an RNC. Yup, definitely looked worried in that 2nd round. [/sarcasm][/quote]
If you watch that fight again, at the start of the second round BJ’s corner is telling BJ to “Let Him Go” meaning let Joe calm down from the “rush” Joe had going through himself from the possible cut stoppage, so BJ outboxed him slowly for a few minutes then once Joe lost that adrenaline BJ pounced on him. Thats smart, cautious, not wanting to make a mistake fighting, not a worried fighter. LoL Joe looked so scared for the entire fight except that 20 seconds. When BJ dragged him over to the cage in the first minute of the fight Joe looked sooo scarred that i felt bad for him. That look and Franklins look in Silvas clinch were the most worried ive ever seen a fighter. Almost to tears dude.[/quote]

Great Observation! i too will never forge the looks on stevenson and Franklins faces….PRICELESS!

[quote comment="310134"][quote comment="310096"][quote comment="310054"][quote comment="309658"]BJ says his cardio is great now, but in the fight with stevenson it really didn’t look that way.. at the beginning of the second round it looked like he was worried watching how fresh joe was even if he he had got battered..

I say this fight is 50 / 50[/quote]

Yeah I’m sure he was so worried that he outboxed him, dropped him with a combination dominated ground position and finished with an RNC. Yup, definitely looked worried in that 2nd round. [/sarcasm][/quote]
If you watch that fight again, at the start of the second round BJ’s corner is telling BJ to “Let Him Go” meaning let Joe calm down from the “rush” Joe had going through himself from the possible cut stoppage, so BJ outboxed him slowly for a few minutes then once Joe lost that adrenaline BJ pounced on him. Thats smart, cautious, not wanting to make a mistake fighting, not a worried fighter. LoL Joe looked so scared for the entire fight except that 20 seconds. When BJ dragged him over to the cage in the first minute of the fight Joe looked sooo scarred that i felt bad for him. That look and Franklins look in Silvas clinch were the most worried ive ever seen a fighter. Almost to tears dude.[/quote]

Great Observation! i too will never forge the looks on stevenson and Franklins faces….PRICELESS![/quote]
I know huh, thats like the look of someone with a gun in thier face, thats a mans raw emotion regardless of how many people are watching or what people might think afterward. Thats why you cant call them a “pussy” or something, cause when you think about it, you and myself would probably look the same way in that situation, as if a gun were in our faces and yes, it is beyond priceless or atleast beyond 39.95 to see a man look so, well, scared. No scripts here huh LoL!!

Sherk didn’t take steroids. BJ has looked awesome in his last 2 fights. Sherk is a tank with enough stamina for 5 title fights. BJ is a talented finisher who can end fights quickly.

I agree.

If Penn doesn’t finish this fight before round 3, Sherk will win in the end.

I enjoy both fighters. Either one winning is fine with me. Can’t wait to see this fight!

sherk almost got submitted a few times vs. Franca. Penn will not be letting him out of those chokes.

[quote comment="310224"]sherk almost got submitted a few times vs. Franca. Penn will not be letting him out of those chokes.[/quote]
100% AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Short and sweet my friend!!!! Like this fight is gonna be for Penn!!!!!

[quote comment="310236"][quote comment="310224"]sherk almost got submitted a few times vs. Franca. Penn will not be letting him out of those chokes.[/quote]
100% AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Short and sweet my friend!!!! Like this fight is gonna be for Penn!!!!![/quote]
I agree as well. BJ is extremely hard to take down and has good standup. Sherk couldn’t GNP Hermes. BJ is a whole nother level of fighter than Franca is. Worse case scenario, BJ wins the first three rounds, gets tired ( if he gets tired), lets Sherk lay n pray for two rounds while he easily pulls guard and remains a little active from the bottom, and wins by decision. Sherk has not finished since he has been at lightweight, I doubt BJ will be his first.

i gotta take bj here too but i dont even understand what hes trying to say here…..i dont see bj winning a 5 round decision in this fight so whats he talking about out-cardoing sherk?….bj is gonna win this fight with a submission maybe a tko….not a decision

the thing about the fight that interests me is that matt hughes dominated sherk’s wrestling in their fight, and penn dominated hughes in the first fight, and the first 2 rounds of the second one.

i think sherk will have a lot of problems with penn.

[quote comment="310061"][quote comment="310014"][quote comment="309940"][quote comment="309880"]He has only had two fights at 155, but I agree. I don’t think there is anyone at 155 that will beat him. There are guys that can beat him, but I don’t think any of them will.[/quote]
BJ has had many more than 2 fights at 155, like 9. Beating the likes of Serra, Gomi, Uno, Thomas, Pulver, Stevenson, and a few other no namers that dont exist anymore. Sherk has lost or gone to a decision with and TOP 5 contenders he has faced in any weight class he has faught in. Bj fights from LTWT TO HVWT, all weight classes and fighters that are much much much stronger/taller then himself and sherk for example Rodrigo Gracie and Renzo Gracie at 180 lbs, Lyotto Machida at 205 lbs, Hughes, GSP, Ludwig etc. Bj looks for the best and challenges them, sherk looks for an easy way to a title (dropping to a lower weight class) Which BJ did also but he was already and is naturaly belonging to that weight class and did it after going all the way up to Heavyweight.[/quote]

I’m not retarded. My comment was in response to Rob’s. I didn’t notice the comments in between.[/quote]
Oh, so you think that Sherk is unstopable at 155? i enjoy the opinions of others, and wouldnt bash them for it, if it wasnt for you guys there would be no one to argue/debate with therefor no forum therefor no fun to build on while waiting for these epic battle to ensue. Please, tell me your reasoning for thinking Sherk is unstopable at 155, you dont even think Gomi (who Penn beat) would give him a run for his unearned money??[/quote]

Can you read? I didn’t say there wouldn’t be fighter to give Sherk a run for his money. There are. I said I didn’t think they would beat him. Sherk has an iron chin, limbs which are hard to catch in a sub, strength to power out of submissions, technical boxing, and relentless take downs. I think the only holes in Sherk’s game may be his TD defense and I don’t see Gomi or BJ shooting on him. It could happen I guess. Sherk has proved that he can go 25 mins with black belts, get out of submissions, fight through a wicked cut, and not get tired doing it. Sherk’s tough to beat. Tough to finish. BJ Penn is the same. It just comes down to picking a guy and I am picking Sherk.

[quote post="4925"]If Penn doesn’t finish this fight before round 3, Sherk will win in the end.[/quote]
If Penn doesnt win by round 3, he will win in 4 or 5 haha.

God I hate both these guys…
Sherk is a jerk and Penn is overrated.

Look at this qoute…
Penn, on the other hand, is the only fighter we’ve seen that can stand w/GSP (serra doesn’t count). Despite the eye-poke penn just seemed more technical on his feet. To take a round from GSP is truly an accomplishment.

KARO did well vs GSP right?

[quote comment="310348"][quote post="4925"]If Penn doesn’t finish this fight before round 3, Sherk will win in the end.[/quote]
If Penn doesnt win by round 3, he will win in 4 or 5 haha.[/quote]

HAHA!!!!!! I totally agree

[quote comment="310006"][quote comment="309986"]the new ifl team is called the has beens

heavyweight-cro cop
light heavyweight-over-rated chucky
middleweight-rich franklin
welterweight-matt serra,,,hes a joke people
lightweight-is there any doubt bj penn

hopefully this time has a chance in the ifl[/quote]
I think you’re the joke. Is there any doubt people, no.[/quote]
hey dork why is it if i dont like the real popular fighters u talk trash,,,maybe u should get ur own mind instead of likeing who everybdoy else does,,,to me ur the joke ur not worth me typing about

[quote comment="310409"][quote comment="310006"][quote comment="309986"]the new ifl team is called the has beens

heavyweight-cro cop
light heavyweight-over-rated chucky
middleweight-rich franklin
welterweight-matt serra,,,hes a joke people
lightweight-is there any doubt bj penn

hopefully this time has a chance in the ifl[/quote]
I think you’re the joke. Is there any doubt people, no.[/quote]
hey dork why is it if i dont like the real popular fighters u talk trash,,,maybe u should get ur own mind instead of likeing who everybdoy else does,,,to me ur the joke ur not worth me typing about[/quote]
So the truth comes out, so THAT’S what it is.
You’r just as bad as the people that like only the popular fighters, you like only the unpopular ones, and think that makes you cooler and different. WRONG. What are you some kind of 70’s rebel agasint popularity?
The fighters you named that are the “has beens” are factually some of the most accomplished and best proven fighters out there, they are popular for a reason, consistantly not liking fighters souly becuase many others do, is not having your own mind, that is being retarded trendy.

[quote comment="310167"]Sherk didn’t take steroids. BJ has looked awesome in his last 2 fights. Sherk is a tank with enough stamina for 5 title fights. BJ is a talented finisher who can end fights quickly.

I agree.

If Penn doesn’t finish this fight before round 3, Sherk will win in the end.

I enjoy both fighters. Either one winning is fine with me. Can’t wait to see this fight![/quote]

Yeah, that’s the likely scenario. Of course, something crazy could always happen like Sherk knocking out BJ in round 1, or BJ pounding out Sherk in round 5. But it will likely be BJ’s fight early, and Sherk’s fight late. The third round is gonna be the key round.

You guys shouldn’t underestimate Sherk… I heard that he’s been training with Roger Clemens

[quote comment="310366"]God I hate both these guys…
Sherk is a jerk and Penn is overrated.

Look at this qoute…
Penn, on the other hand, is the only fighter we’ve seen that can stand w/GSP (serra doesn’t count). Despite the eye-poke penn just seemed more technical on his feet. To take a round from GSP is truly an accomplishment.

KARO did well vs GSP right?[/quote]

Yeah in GSP’s first ever fight in the UFC. There’s some trivia for ya’ll.

BJ is gonna beat Sherk. Why? Because BJ lost a close decision to GSP and GSP destroyed Sherk. OH yeah, and the steroid withdrawals for Sherk will problaby be a factor as well.

I will be patiently awaiting any silly and or positive comments!

Damn’ BJ is talking a lot of smack…. I think BJ is on another level, beyond what Sherk can deal with. BJ will be a handful for Sherk on the ground and Sherk can’t deal with BJ’s striking… I can’t see Sherk’s top position outlasting BJ’s JU.

oddchild bj lost to gsp because he gassed he had a brilliant first round and took george to the cleaners but after that looked wasted.and dont forget that was only a 3 round fight this is 5,thats why ive got to say penn early sherk late/cut or decision.i dont believe that about showing sherk what cardio is all about even in penn/pulver 1 when penn was in awesome shape he still lost that fight in my eyes due to conditioning and looked spent after the stevenson fight.its funny aswell when he called sherk a dead man when sherk come into the octagon penn looked a bit apprehensive and backed down and shook his hand.sherk didnt look fazed at all.just a thought

[quote comment="309630"]Sherk is going to lay on him for ten minutes, BJ is going to get tired, Then Sherk is going to throw elbow after elbow until BJ is A) KTFO B) Dead C)Bleeding D) Its the end of the fight. Im pulling for the underdog, sherk ,in this one. That belt is his and everyone knows it, I fully know that he didn’t take steroids, everyone should. Its just another government agency that goes unchecked and can do what ever they want. WAR SHERK!!!!![/quote]
New Guy, I’m not a Sherk hater or BJ fan, just to let you know. But you’re steroid comments are off base. Sherk had more than 5X the amount in his system that is allowed to Olympic athletes (and they allow a high level just in case for any genetic freaks). The facts are that he DID take them.

[quote comment="309630"]Sherk is going to lay on him for ten minutes, BJ is going to get tired, Then Sherk is going to throw elbow after elbow until BJ is A) KTFO B) Dead C)Bleeding D) Its the end of the fight. Im pulling for the underdog, sherk ,in this one. That belt is his and everyone knows it, I fully know that he didn’t take steroids, everyone should. Its just another government agency that goes unchecked and can do what ever they want. WAR SHERK!!!!![/quote]

BJ has one of the best guards in the business. Sherk will do almost nothing from the top except keep the position. He’s just gonna waste time and effort trying to mount an offence. It’s unlikely that Sherk stops Penn, so he’ll need to have top position most of the fight to get a decision.

[quote comment="310409"][quote comment="310006"][quote comment="309986"]the new ifl team is called the has beens

heavyweight-cro cop
light heavyweight-over-rated chucky
middleweight-rich franklin
welterweight-matt serra,,,hes a joke people
lightweight-is there any doubt bj penn

hopefully this time has a chance in the ifl[/quote]
I think you’re the joke. Is there any doubt people, no.[/quote]
hey dork why is it if i dont like the real popular fighters u talk trash,,,maybe u should get ur own mind instead of likeing who everybdoy else does,,,to me ur the joke ur not worth me typing about[/quote]

i’d take your opinions more seriously if you actually knew how to spell. based on the AOL speak you are using, i’m guessing you are 12 and not really old enough to be watching this stuff anyway.

[quote comment="310453"][quote comment="310409"][quote comment="310006"][quote comment="309986"]the new ifl team is called the has beens

heavyweight-cro cop
light heavyweight-over-rated chucky
middleweight-rich franklin
welterweight-matt serra,,,hes a joke people
lightweight-is there any doubt bj penn

hopefully this time has a chance in the ifl[/quote]
I think you’re the joke. Is there any doubt people, no.[/quote]
hey dork why is it if i dont like the real popular fighters u talk trash,,,maybe u should get ur own mind instead of likeing who everybdoy else does,,,to me ur the joke ur not worth me typing about[/quote]
So the truth comes out, so THAT’S what it is.
You’r just as bad as the people that like only the popular fighters, you like only the unpopular ones, and think that makes you cooler and different. WRONG. What are you some kind of 70’s rebel agasint popularity?
The fighters you named that are the “has beens” are factually some of the most accomplished and best proven fighters out there, they are popular for a reason, consistantly not liking fighters souly becuase many others do, is not having your own mind, that is being retarded trendy.[/quote]

Uhhhh, you say that all of those guys are “has-beens”???

Lets see… (I appologize of the capitol letters. I copy/pasted his, and then my typing is in the CAPS)

heavyweight-cro cop OK, I’LL GIVE YOU THAT ONE

light heavyweight-over-rated chucky I AM NOT A FAN OF CHUCK, BUT HE IS STILL A TOP 5 LHW FIGHTER, HE JUST CAN’T BEAT RAMPAGE. TITO ON THE OTHER HAND, WOULD HAVE BEEN MILLION TIMES MORE OF A BETTER CANDIDATE THAN LIDDELL

middleweight-rich franklin DO ME A FAVOR AND LOOK UP FRANKLIN’S RECORD. THANKS. RICH JUST CAN’T DEFEAT ANDERSON SILVA. THAT DOES NOT MAKE HIM A “HAS BEEN”.

welterweight-matt serra,,,hes a joke people MATT SERRA IS NOT A “HAS BEEN”. ACTUALLY HE IS A “IS NOW”. IN CASE YOU DIDN’T KNOW, SERRA IS THE CURRENT WW CHAMP. CALLING HIM A HAS BEEN, MEANS THAT HE WAS BETTER BACK IN THE DAY, BUT NOW HE IS A CAN. ACTUALLY, MATT SERRA IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE. HE IS AT THE PINNACLE OF HIS CAREER.

lightweight-is there any doubt bj penn BJ PENN A HAS BEEN??? LOL, THIS IS THE FUNNIEST OF THEM ALL. BJ HAS BEEN A LEGEND OF MMA SINCE HE WAS LIKE 23 YEARS OLD. HE USED TO JUST RELY ON HIS TECHNIQUE AND GOD GIVEN ABILITIES. BUT SINCE HIS DROP BACK DOWN TO THE LW DIVISION, HE IS COMPLETELY RE-DEDICATED TO HIS CAREER. IN FACT HE IS MORE DEDICATED NOW THAN EVER BEFORE. IN EACH AND EVERY FIGHT, YOU WILL BE SEEING A BETTER BJ PENN. NOW THAT IS SCARY.

Great post Mike. Thanks for taking the time to prove just how ignorant of a post that was. Has been is even a bad description for Cro Cop. Not because he is still a top tier fighter, but more so because he is a legend in the sport. seems almost disrespectful. What a shame.

[quote comment="311015"][quote comment="309630"]Sherk is going to lay on him for ten minutes, BJ is going to get tired, Then Sherk is going to throw elbow after elbow until BJ is A) KTFO B) Dead C)Bleeding D) Its the end of the fight. Im pulling for the underdog, sherk ,in this one. That belt is his and everyone knows it, I fully know that he didn’t take steroids, everyone should. Its just another government agency that goes unchecked and can do what ever they want. WAR SHERK!!!!![/quote]
New Guy, I’m not a Sherk hater or BJ fan, just to let you know. But you’re steroid comments are off base. Sherk had more than 5X the amount in his system that is allowed to Olympic athletes (and they allow a high level just in case for any genetic freaks). The facts are that he DID take them.[/quote]

I don’t think its fair to base your argument on the Olympics, they are anal. Olympic athletes don’t even take Tylenol if they have a headache for fear they might test positive for something. Look at Royce Gracie. He did Nandrolone and tested somewhere around 56 nanograms. Sherk had 12. That in conjunction with the evidence Sherk provided shows me that he did not do Nandrolone. That said, the commission still disallows fighters having that much Nandrolone, a substance naturally produced by the body, in his system. Sherk needs to pay the penalty for that. Does this mean Sherk stuck a needle in his butt or staright up tried to cheat as many people like to think? No, it does not.

[quote comment="311168"][quote comment="310453"][quote comment="310409"][quote comment="310006"][quote comment="309986"]the new ifl team is called the has beens

heavyweight-cro cop
light heavyweight-over-rated chucky
middleweight-rich franklin
welterweight-matt serra,,,hes a joke people
lightweight-is there any doubt bj penn

hopefully this time has a chance in the ifl[/quote]
I think you’re the joke. Is there any doubt people, no.[/quote]
hey dork why is it if i dont like the real popular fighters u talk trash,,,maybe u should get ur own mind instead of likeing who everybdoy else does,,,to me ur the joke ur not worth me typing about[/quote]
So the truth comes out, so THAT’S what it is.
You’r just as bad as the people that like only the popular fighters, you like only the unpopular ones, and think that makes you cooler and different. WRONG. What are you some kind of 70’s rebel agasint popularity?
The fighters you named that are the “has beens” are factually some of the most accomplished and best proven fighters out there, they are popular for a reason, consistantly not liking fighters souly becuase many others do, is not having your own mind, that is being retarded trendy.[/quote]

Uhhhh, you say that all of those guys are “has-beens”???

Lets see… (I appologize of the capitol letters. I copy/pasted his, and then my typing is in the CAPS)

heavyweight-cro cop OK, I’LL GIVE YOU THAT ONE

light heavyweight-over-rated chucky

I AM NOT A FAN OF CHUCK, BUT HE IS STILL A TOP 5 LHW FIGHTER, HE JUST CAN’T BEAT RAMPAGE. TITO ON THE OTHER HAND, WOULD HAVE BEEN MILLION TIMES MORE OF A BETTER CANDIDATE THAN LIDDELL

middleweight-rich franklin DO ME A FAVOR AND LOOK UP FRANKLIN’S RECORD. THANKS. RICH JUST CAN’T DEFEAT ANDERSON SILVA. THAT DOES NOT MAKE HIM A “HAS BEEN”.

welterweight-matt serra,,,hes a joke people MATT SERRA IS NOT A “HAS BEEN”. ACTUALLY HE IS A “IS NOW”. IN CASE YOU DIDN’T KNOW, SERRA IS THE CURRENT WW CHAMP. CALLING HIM A HAS BEEN, MEANS THAT HE WAS BETTER BACK IN THE DAY, BUT NOW HE IS A CAN. ACTUALLY, MATT SERRA IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE. HE IS AT THE PINNACLE OF HIS CAREER.

lightweight-is there any doubt bj penn BJ PENN A HAS BEEN??? LOL, THIS IS THE FUNNIEST OF THEM ALL. BJ HAS BEEN A LEGEND OF MMA SINCE HE WAS LIKE 23 YEARS OLD. HE USED TO JUST RELY ON HIS TECHNIQUE AND GOD GIVEN ABILITIES. BUT SINCE HIS DROP BACK DOWN TO THE LW DIVISION, HE IS COMPLETELY RE-DEDICATED TO HIS CAREER. IN FACT HE IS MORE DEDICATED NOW THAN EVER BEFORE. IN EACH AND EVERY FIGHT, YOU WILL BE SEEING A BETTER BJ PENN. NOW THAT IS SCARY.[/quote]
HAHAHAH, KooK!!! Now whos the joke, it would seem that YOU arent worth my time by the looks of every other person backing my simple opinion of YOU and YOUR opinions being a joke, THANKS guys!!! This dude comes into every forum and calls BJ, Chuck, and many other accomplished fighters overrated, when just a year ago he was paying 39.95 to watch their payperviews like all of us. Keep being MR. TRENDYMcCOOL, but atleast back your arguements or statements i should say with valid points and assesments. To just say a guy sucks or isnt what he seems is immature. I bet BJ is just UNoverrated enough to kick your *ss from one side of this country to the other, ya little sally!

[quote comment="310345"][quote comment="310061"][quote comment="310014"][quote comment="309940"][quote comment="309880"]He has only had two fights at 155, but I agree. I don’t think there is anyone at 155 that will beat him. There are guys that can beat him, but I don’t think any of them will.[/quote]
BJ has had many more than 2 fights at 155, like 9. Beating the likes of Serra, Gomi, Uno, Thomas, Pulver, Stevenson, and a few other no namers that dont exist anymore. Sherk has lost or gone to a decision with and TOP 5 contenders he has faced in any weight class he has faught in. Bj fights from LTWT TO HVWT, all weight classes and fighters that are much much much stronger/taller then himself and sherk for example Rodrigo Gracie and Renzo Gracie at 180 lbs, Lyotto Machida at 205 lbs, Hughes, GSP, Ludwig etc. Bj looks for the best and challenges them, sherk looks for an easy way to a title (dropping to a lower weight class) Which BJ did also but he was already and is naturaly belonging to that weight class and did it after going all the way up to Heavyweight.[/quote]

I’m not retarded. My comment was in response to Rob’s. I didn’t notice the comments in between.[/quote]
Oh, so you think that Sherk is unstopable at 155? i enjoy the opinions of others, and wouldnt bash them for it, if it wasnt for you guys there would be no one to argue/debate with therefor no forum therefor no fun to build on while waiting for these epic battle to ensue. Please, tell me your reasoning for thinking Sherk is unstopable at 155, you dont even think Gomi (who Penn beat) would give him a run for his unearned money??[/quote]

Can you read? I didn’t say there wouldn’t be fighter to give Sherk a run for his money. There are. I said I didn’t think they would beat him. Sherk has an iron chin, limbs which are hard to catch in a sub, strength to power out of submissions, technical boxing, and relentless take downs. I think the only holes in Sherk’s game may be his TD defense and I don’t see Gomi or BJ shooting on him. It could happen I guess. Sherk has proved that he can go 25 mins with black belts, get out of submissions, fight through a wicked cut, and not get tired doing it. Sherk’s tough to beat. Tough to finish. BJ Penn is the same. It just comes down to picking a guy and I am picking Sherk.[/quote]
yep, i think i can, i said i think i can read yahahhah. To me, saying a fighter is unstopable means that no one can give him a run for his money, like Penn im just calling a spade a spade. And ok, Sherk (i guess but not really) has all that going for him, and what BJ is a slouch?? BJ has all that and then some dude, just ask his last four opponents, Matt Hughes says himself that along with GSP, BJ Penn is the best fighter in the world. “Two losses in a row for a guy like BJ Penn is nothing, if you dont have losses, you arent fighting the right guys.” Sherk will never look for rematches against GSP or Hughes, BJ already rematched one of them and he gave that opinion right there. And he cant wait to fight GSP again (knowing that GSP is bar none, his best comp out there!) Sherk is a gutless coward, BJ, a Hawaiian warrior!

[quote comment="310659"]Damn’ BJ is talking a lot of smack…. I think BJ is on another level, beyond what Sherk can deal with. BJ will be a handful for Sherk on the ground and Sherk can’t deal with BJ’s striking… I can’t see Sherk’s top position outlasting BJ’s JU.[/quote]
BJ has learned how to promo a fight and get big cashola, not only turning into a dedicated champ, but a smart business man as well, without the bottle in his hand BJ is just simply put THE MAN!

i don’t think sherk should even talk about cardio. what does he do because get cut & takedowns. he throws a punch here & there. but hasn’t not finshed a fight in fashion since i don’t know was it benji radch or something how many years ago?
bj if he trains right will win. however if he don’t its going 2 b BORING. unless sherk got the roids that they can’t c in the p test. i knew he did roids b4 he got caught. he has roid rage. u seen it at ufc 81. well i did.

[quote comment="309509"]I like how he says that the people taking sports enhancement drugs are not real fighters, and then the next sentence he says that sherk is a great fighter

anyway, BJ please when this fight, you have talked to much not to[/quote]

Hi…..REAL fighter and GREAT fighter is not the same thing. Sherk is a GREAT fighter (on steroids) REAL fighter is someone who does REAL training without enhancement drugs. It isn’t contradicting.

[quote comment="309630"]Sherk is going to lay on him for ten minutes, BJ is going to get tired, Then Sherk is going to throw elbow after elbow until BJ is A) KTFO B) Dead C)Bleeding D) Its the end of the fight. Im pulling for the underdog, sherk ,in this one. That belt is his and everyone knows it, I fully know that he didn’t take steroids, everyone should. Its just another government agency that goes unchecked and can do what ever they want. WAR SHERK!!!!![/quote]

HE tested positive. That’s it period. CHEATING. Awesome fighter…..that can’t be denied. Too bad he did the juice. Very dissapointing for fans. BJ is my pick………but it will be a great fight.

[quote comment="310054"][quote comment="309658"]BJ says his cardio is great now, but in the fight with stevenson it really didn’t look that way.. at the beginning of the second round it looked like he was worried watching how fresh joe was even if he he had got battered..

I say this fight is 50 / 50[/quote]

Yeah I’m sure he was so worried that he outboxed him, dropped him with a combination dominated ground position and finished with an RNC. Yup, definitely looked worried in that 2nd round. [/sarcasm][/quote]

BJ DOMINATED.

[quote comment="310345"][quote comment="310061"][quote comment="310014"][quote comment="309940"][quote comment="309880"]He has only had two fights at 155, but I agree. I don’t think there is anyone at 155 that will beat him. There are guys that can beat him, but I don’t think any of them will.[/quote]
BJ has had many more than 2 fights at 155, like 9. Beating the likes of Serra, Gomi, Uno, Thomas, Pulver, Stevenson, and a few other no namers that dont exist anymore. Sherk has lost or gone to a decision with and TOP 5 contenders he has faced in any weight class he has faught in. Bj fights from LTWT TO HVWT, all weight classes and fighters that are much much much stronger/taller then himself and sherk for example Rodrigo Gracie and Renzo Gracie at 180 lbs, Lyotto Machida at 205 lbs, Hughes, GSP, Ludwig etc. Bj looks for the best and challenges them, sherk looks for an easy way to a title (dropping to a lower weight class) Which BJ did also but he was already and is naturaly belonging to that weight class and did it after going all the way up to Heavyweight.[/quote]

I’m not retarded. My comment was in response to Rob’s. I didn’t notice the comments in between.[/quote]
Oh, so you think that Sherk is unstopable at 155? i enjoy the opinions of others, and wouldnt bash them for it, if it wasnt for you guys there would be no one to argue/debate with therefor no forum therefor no fun to build on while waiting for these epic battle to ensue. Please, tell me your reasoning for thinking Sherk is unstopable at 155, you dont even think Gomi (who Penn beat) would give him a run for his unearned money??[/quote]

Can you read? I didn’t say there wouldn’t be fighter to give Sherk a run for his money. There are. I said I didn’t think they would beat him. Sherk has an iron chin, limbs which are hard to catch in a sub, strength to power out of submissions, technical boxing, and relentless take downs. I think the only holes in Sherk’s game may be his TD defense and I don’t see Gomi or BJ shooting on him. It could happen I guess. Sherk has proved that he can go 25 mins with black belts, get out of submissions, fight through a wicked cut, and not get tired doing it. Sherk’s tough to beat. Tough to finish. BJ Penn is the same. It just comes down to picking a guy and I am picking Sherk.[/quote]

TSK TSK TSK…………….He STILL TESTED POSITIVE ON STEROIDS!!!! HA! Gas or no Gas…..Bj’s my pick

[quote comment="310533"]You guys shouldn’t underestimate Sherk… I heard that he’s been training with Roger Clemens[/quote]

No under estimating the power of Sherk. He’s good……ON STEROIDS. LOL!

[quote comment="311941"]i don’t think sherk should even talk about cardio. what does he do because get cut & takedowns. he throws a punch here & there. but hasn’t not finshed a fight in fashion since i don’t know was it benji radch or something how many years ago?
bj if he trains right will win. however if he don’t its going 2 b BORING. unless sherk got the roids that they can’t c in the p test. i knew he did roids b4 he got caught. he has roid rage. u seen it at ufc 81. well i did.[/quote]

Dido!!! ROIDVILLE brother. Ask a chick like me……….I know a guy on roids………and that was…ROIDVILLE.

[quote comment="309643"][quote comment="309595"]Penn has only had a week off after winning the title and was back training. BJ has realised that if he wants to be a true legend he has to put the work in & be able to go the distance.

Kudos for him getting back into camp so early & training to beat Sherk at what he is known for, his cardio.

We all know BJ has fantastic BJJ and that he has a tendancy to gas if the fight goes on but now he is truely ready to stamp his mark on MMA and become the future hall of famer he should be.

I just hope he is also bench pressing 155 lbs so he can lift Sherk of him while he tries to lay on him for 25 mins!![/quote]

I agree. It was very smart of BJ of not taking much time off after the win over stevenson. He was in great shape for that fight and jumping right back into training can only mean he will have even better cardio for the sherk fight.

I think Penn will beat Sherk a lot easier then many of you think. Its going to be a one-sided beating simular to what Penn did to Joe Daddy…[/quote]
If Sherk is still himself, I would have to disagree with you John. In 35 fights Sherk has only lost a decision to Hughes and was finished once by GSP. Gsp beat Sherk by taking him down, something I doubt BJ can do. Sherk has a head of stone, so I can’t see BJ KOing him standing. I guess there is a first for everything,but Sherk has yet to be submitted. If BJ comes in with the best cardio of his life, I see it only buying him some more time before he gasses against the stronger wrestler. Bj’s gas tank will drain much faster trying to match strength with the stronger fighter. We all know Sherk won’t finish BJ, but he is the king of lay and pray,so I have to say Sherk by decision.

[quote comment="309652"]The only way BJ Penn shows Sean Sherk what “cardio” really is, is if he shows him tapes of Sherk’s fights.

Since when did BJ Penn become a guy who can go 25 minutes ? He strings together 2 wins and all of a sudden he is a born again dedicated cardio machine ?

I DONT BUY IT[/quote]
what has sherk done? everyfight he ever had in the ufc except 2 were won by descision! and those 2 wins were guys i never even herd of! oh yea he also lost to the only big names he ever faced (hughes descision gsp tko) Did i mention bj owns a win over hughes and lost a split descision to gsp. Not to mention bj finishes fights over four knockouts multiple submissions wins over big named guys! If u think sherk is gonna lay on bj and beat him up your sadly mistaken not at 155!

[quote comment="310082"]I’ll bet on Sherk’s cardio over BJ’s any day. If Sherk was more of a lay n pray fighter he’d smash BJ; he’s going to have an easy time getting BJ on his back, the problem is he’s probably going to lay there until something actually happens. BJ is disgustingly overrated but Sherk is not even close to well rounded, which probably gives the edge to BJ. If this fight took place in a bar BJ would land one shot and then end up in a trash can.[/quote]
Not if they fought in a bar in Hawaii, other than that this should be a good fight for the fans. But its a mixed martial arts fight not a cardio competition(well actually its that too because cardio is one of the key factors unless BJ wins in the first or second round)and with BJ being the better fighter as far as mma and talent i think he will win. Never count Sherk out though he is tough as nails and a decent fighter but BJ has improved his cardio and his training and is a freak of nature as far as talent and natural abilities. I say its a 70/30 BJ but u never know in fightin.

[quote comment="309818"][quote comment="309670"]I agree sherk didn’t use steroids..[/quote]

A little thing, called a “Urine Test” says otherwise, and i believe that over the word of a cheater (sherk) and an internet poster (you).[/quote]

Ha so very true Sherk is a f*cking cheat and should be banned for at least two or three years for using, or maybe take up cycling or sprinting those sports don’t seem to care if you use steroids. Too much anyway.

[quote comment="316766"][quote comment="310345"][quote comment="310061"][quote comment="310014"][quote comment="309940"][quote comment="309880"]He has only had two fights at 155, but I agree. I don’t think there is anyone at 155 that will beat him. There are guys that can beat him, but I don’t think any of them will.[/quote]
BJ has had many more than 2 fights at 155, like 9. Beating the likes of Serra, Gomi, Uno, Thomas, Pulver, Stevenson, and a few other no namers that dont exist anymore. Sherk has lost or gone to a decision with and TOP 5 contenders he has faced in any weight class he has faught in. Bj fights from LTWT TO HVWT, all weight classes and fighters that are much much much stronger/taller then himself and sherk for example Rodrigo Gracie and Renzo Gracie at 180 lbs, Lyotto Machida at 205 lbs, Hughes, GSP, Ludwig etc. Bj looks for the best and challenges them, sherk looks for an easy way to a title (dropping to a lower weight class) Which BJ did also but he was already and is naturaly belonging to that weight class and did it after going all the way up to Heavyweight.[/quote]

I’m not retarded. My comment was in response to Rob’s. I didn’t notice the comments in between.[/quote]
Oh, so you think that Sherk is unstopable at 155? i enjoy the opinions of others, and wouldnt bash them for it, if it wasnt for you guys there would be no one to argue/debate with therefor no forum therefor no fun to build on while waiting for these epic battle to ensue. Please, tell me your reasoning for thinking Sherk is unstopable at 155, you dont even think Gomi (who Penn beat) would give him a run for his unearned money??[/quote]

Can you read? I didn’t say there wouldn’t be fighter to give Sherk a run for his money. There are. I said I didn’t think they would beat him. Sherk has an iron chin, limbs which are hard to catch in a sub, strength to power out of submissions, technical boxing, and relentless take downs. I think the only holes in Sherk’s game may be his TD defense and I don’t see Gomi or BJ shooting on him. It could happen I guess. Sherk has proved that he can go 25 mins with black belts, get out of submissions, fight through a wicked cut, and not get tired doing it. Sherk’s tough to beat. Tough to finish. BJ Penn is the same. It just comes down to picking a guy and I am picking Sherk.[/quote]

TSK TSK TSK…………….He STILL TESTED POSITIVE ON STEROIDS!!!! HA! Gas or no Gas…..Bj’s my pick [/quote]

Sherks name and record is tainted as far as I’m concerned. Everytime he wins or goes to fight you’ll be thinking “yeah he is a good fighter and he does have great cardio but why is he starting to resemble a horse and grow a tail, Oh how those horse steroids he has been taking are starting to show its time we took Sherk out to the paddock and let him run free”
BJ has a lot more skill and fighting ability than Sherk could ever dream. He has finishing power and ground ability. He is no slouch and has come back to UFC much more determined than he was previously. If Sherk tries to lay of him and tickle his ears like he has done previously I’m sure BJ will break his arm. BJ submission 3rd round, rear naked choke.

BJ looked really good in his fight with Joe…except for one thing: He was exhausted after less than 2 rounds. He was literally hanging on Herb Dean and could barely get his arm raised. He looked and sounded tired in the interview with Rogan. If the thing went a 3rd round and no cut, I can’t imagine BJ doing much more to Joe who was in great shape.

That being said, he knows Sherk’s main advantage on him and is probably swimming around the Big Island before he starts training each morning.

I think even if this power lifting freak takes BJ down, BJ’s great BJJ will come to the fore and I have no doubts he will be able to sweep him and get Sherk on his back.

All I can see once the fight is on the ground is a Jens Pulver/Joe Stevenson like domination.

Being a good wrestler ok but once you’ve got someone like BJ Penn to contend with you can forget it.

people you need to realize sherk have no arsenel in this fight. you can’t just rely on stemina and take people down. i tell you what, penn gona beat sherk, than huerta and kenny than he will move up to beat gsp or serra.. its crazy to think sherk has a chance to win the fight. penn is a different fighter now, he wont do the same mistake in past anymore, he knows what he is, and what he brings in the table. hopefully sherk loss and move to WEC 145 lb’s division cuz i hate fight. he doesn’t do shit except laying on people….

Sean Sherk is going to beat BJ’s ass