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		<title>By: rhino video games</title>
		<link>http://mmamania.com/2008/02/09/wec-condit-vs-prater-quick-fight-preview/#comment-642316</link>
		<dc:creator>rhino video games</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 01:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ViolentMike</title>
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		<dc:creator>ViolentMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great card from top to bottom.  I can't wait for the WEC to have enough talent to hold cards monthly.  I wish that they had put Leonard Garcia in there with a more recognizable name, such as Micah Miller or Mark Hominick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great card from top to bottom.  I can&#8217;t wait for the WEC to have enough talent to hold cards monthly.  I wish that they had put Leonard Garcia in there with a more recognizable name, such as Micah Miller or Mark Hominick.</p>
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		<title>By: BART</title>
		<link>http://mmamania.com/2008/02/09/wec-condit-vs-prater-quick-fight-preview/#comment-304646</link>
		<dc:creator>BART</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 01:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="301911"]Micah Miller is a talented fighter. I did not know that he was cole millers brother.

I wish that the WEC would move sum of its top guns to the UFC. Condit is ready to compete Now![/quote]



CHANCE FARRAR IS GONNA WOOP SOME BUT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment=&#8221;301911&#8243;]Micah Miller is a talented fighter. I did not know that he was cole millers brother.</p>
<p>I wish that the WEC would move sum of its top guns to the UFC. Condit is ready to compete Now![/quote]</p>
<p>CHANCE FARRAR IS GONNA WOOP SOME BUT</p>
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		<title>By: Michaelthebox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michaelthebox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 21:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stann is fighting Marshall in late March or April.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stann is fighting Marshall in late March or April.</p>
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		<title>By: kitsunex</title>
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		<dc:creator>kitsunex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>meh stann is just an overhyped idiot jarhead. we'll see what he can do when he faces some real competition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>meh stann is just an overhyped idiot jarhead. we&#8217;ll see what he can do when he faces some real competition.</p>
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		<title>By: PW</title>
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		<dc:creator>PW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 13:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="302193"]Does the WEC even have a heavyweight champion?

Razor Rob isnt bad either, but I dont think he would be too successful fighting in the UFC[/quote]
WEC doesn't have a HW division. They go from bantamweight up to LHW. Even at that division Brian Stann is their only marketable fighter, and that includes current champ Doug Rhino Marshall. Unfortunately Stann was not on their Dec. card, nor is he on the Feb. card, which leads me to believe he is back on active duty with the Marines. I don't know for sure, but WEC loves to show him off at every opportunity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment=&#8221;302193&#8243;]Does the WEC even have a heavyweight champion?</p>
<p>Razor Rob isnt bad either, but I dont think he would be too successful fighting in the UFC[/quote]<br />
WEC doesn&#8217;t have a HW division. They go from bantamweight up to LHW. Even at that division Brian Stann is their only marketable fighter, and that includes current champ Doug Rhino Marshall. Unfortunately Stann was not on their Dec. card, nor is he on the Feb. card, which leads me to believe he is back on active duty with the Marines. I don&#8217;t know for sure, but WEC loves to show him off at every opportunity.</p>
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		<title>By: The 518 Playa</title>
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		<dc:creator>The 518 Playa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 03:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="302193"]Does the WEC even have a heavyweight champion?

Razor Rob isnt bad either, but I dont think he would be too successful fighting in the UFC[/quote]
He'd do okay. Not great. But you never know. Most fighters aren't born "great" I guess. Only Randy and Fedor were born with 'GREATNESS'!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment=&#8221;302193&#8243;]Does the WEC even have a heavyweight champion?</p>
<p>Razor Rob isnt bad either, but I dont think he would be too successful fighting in the UFC[/quote]<br />
He&#8217;d do okay. Not great. But you never know. Most fighters aren&#8217;t born &#8220;great&#8221; I guess. Only Randy and Fedor were born with &#8216;GREATNESS&#8217;!!!</p>
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		<title>By: The 518 Playa</title>
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		<dc:creator>The 518 Playa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 02:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys, if ppl want to pay fighters more than the UFC does, so what? The fighters' just need to know and understand that the only place that they can honestly say they fought the best is the Ufc. If they want to let somebody pay them more for fighting easier opponets...why not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, if ppl want to pay fighters more than the UFC does, so what? The fighters&#8217; just need to know and understand that the only place that they can honestly say they fought the best is the Ufc. If they want to let somebody pay them more for fighting easier opponets&#8230;why not?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrej</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 01:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M-1 will lose alote of money. They have no television deal, They gotta pay Fedor's huge contract, Rumors about other fighter's contracts $ - Eddie Alvarez, Alexander Emelianko and Gegard Mousassi all expect to get paid in the end. I will be suprised if they have 3 shows max! Maybe M1 Global having fights in Europe, and Asia are the way to go. But not Japan they would have to compete with K-1 and World Victory Road. 

I see World Victory Road as a company I would think survives over M-1 at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M-1 will lose alote of money. They have no television deal, They gotta pay Fedor&#8217;s huge contract, Rumors about other fighter&#8217;s contracts $ - Eddie Alvarez, Alexander Emelianko and Gegard Mousassi all expect to get paid in the end. I will be suprised if they have 3 shows max! Maybe M1 Global having fights in Europe, and Asia are the way to go. But not Japan they would have to compete with K-1 and World Victory Road. </p>
<p>I see World Victory Road as a company I would think survives over M-1 at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: Muscle Dolphin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muscle Dolphin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 00:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="302384"][quote comment="302216"][quote comment="302187"][quote comment="302008"]The WEC is beyond a shadow of a doubt the #2 organization in the world.[/quote]

Its a solid organization but I wouldnt say its #2 in the world.
I think all the other USA based mma organizations are pretty equal. I cant say that WEC is better then EliteXC or strikeforce, but I can say that they are better then the WEC either. All 3 organizations have some really good fighters, but then there is a fall off in talent.

Also worldwide there are IMO better organizations then the WEC.
Victory Road is picking up steam and starting to sign some top fighters.

Heroes boasts some of the best lightweight fighters in the world

Cage Rage is a solid event.

M-1 has the potential of becoming a serious player. Think about it in the next year they could potentially have: Fedor, his lil brother, Barnett, Sergei Kharitonov, Tim Sylvia, Arlovski , Tito Ortiz, Ricardo Arona, Randy Couture, Rogerio Nogueira, Monson, Rizzo... all fighting in M-1. Not to mention that M-1 is willing to collaborate with other companies so it doesnt really need as many great fighters as the UFC. For starters they would only need about 8 good solid, big named mma fighters and they can match em up against other companies top 8 fighters. They could implement this strategy over the course of its 1st year in business until it gains enough quality fighters to start having its own events.

Off the top of my head a can name about 50 top notch fighters that arent signed to the UFC. So there are good events and solid match ups outside of Zuffa mma organizations (UFC, Wec).[/quote]
You make some good points.  I respectfully disagree with your anticipation of M-1 becoming an important organization.  M-1 is going nowhere.  Business wise, I don't think that any company can make serious cash cross promoting.  HDnet Fights has a better chance than M-1 in becoming a major player in a few years..[/quote]

M-1 may not be succesful in the USA, but I am sure it will be a huge draw in other parts of the world like Japan. Thats why its called M-1 Global. So even if it doesnt become Big in America, it can still succeed and become a prominant mma organization. Those names I mentioned above would be Huge draws in japan and in my oppinion there is more money in Japan then in th USA at this point in time when talking about MMA.

In addition t Japan, M-1 can easily make lots of money in Russia. with Fedor and his brother signed along with the other members of the red devil fight team, M-1 will be a big Draw in Russia. Fedor also has many fans in Korea and China which are both emerging mma markets. The UFC might keep its chokehold on the mma market in America, but world wide, the UFC is not that big and I completely expect M-1 out perform the UFC in most other parts of the world.[/quote]
I must admit you have put forth a pretty good argument.
So basically what you are saying is that M-1 has the potential to someday replace Pride.  M-1 would be competing with K-1 and Heroes.  One "wild card" with respect to M-1 is Fedor's manager.  Already, some of the M-1 investors are at odds with him.  How long will the investors put up with Fedor's manager (who by the way has a contoversial track record)?  Competition is not a bad thing.  However, I personally do not think that any organization will come close to rivalling the UFC in North America (including Mexico where the UFC is now ready to enter) in the forseeable future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment=&#8221;302384&#8243;][quote comment=&#8221;302216&#8243;][quote comment=&#8221;302187&#8243;][quote comment=&#8221;302008&#8243;]The WEC is beyond a shadow of a doubt the #2 organization in the world.[/quote]</p>
<p>Its a solid organization but I wouldnt say its #2 in the world.<br />
I think all the other USA based mma organizations are pretty equal. I cant say that WEC is better then EliteXC or strikeforce, but I can say that they are better then the WEC either. All 3 organizations have some really good fighters, but then there is a fall off in talent.</p>
<p>Also worldwide there are IMO better organizations then the WEC.<br />
Victory Road is picking up steam and starting to sign some top fighters.</p>
<p>Heroes boasts some of the best lightweight fighters in the world</p>
<p>Cage Rage is a solid event.</p>
<p>M-1 has the potential of becoming a serious player. Think about it in the next year they could potentially have: Fedor, his lil brother, Barnett, Sergei Kharitonov, Tim Sylvia, Arlovski , Tito Ortiz, Ricardo Arona, Randy Couture, Rogerio Nogueira, Monson, Rizzo&#8230; all fighting in M-1. Not to mention that M-1 is willing to collaborate with other companies so it doesnt really need as many great fighters as the UFC. For starters they would only need about 8 good solid, big named mma fighters and they can match em up against other companies top 8 fighters. They could implement this strategy over the course of its 1st year in business until it gains enough quality fighters to start having its own events.</p>
<p>Off the top of my head a can name about 50 top notch fighters that arent signed to the UFC. So there are good events and solid match ups outside of Zuffa mma organizations (UFC, Wec).[/quote]<br />
You make some good points.  I respectfully disagree with your anticipation of M-1 becoming an important organization.  M-1 is going nowhere.  Business wise, I don&#8217;t think that any company can make serious cash cross promoting.  HDnet Fights has a better chance than M-1 in becoming a major player in a few years..[/quote]</p>
<p>M-1 may not be succesful in the USA, but I am sure it will be a huge draw in other parts of the world like Japan. Thats why its called M-1 Global. So even if it doesnt become Big in America, it can still succeed and become a prominant mma organization. Those names I mentioned above would be Huge draws in japan and in my oppinion there is more money in Japan then in th USA at this point in time when talking about MMA.</p>
<p>In addition t Japan, M-1 can easily make lots of money in Russia. with Fedor and his brother signed along with the other members of the red devil fight team, M-1 will be a big Draw in Russia. Fedor also has many fans in Korea and China which are both emerging mma markets. The UFC might keep its chokehold on the mma market in America, but world wide, the UFC is not that big and I completely expect M-1 out perform the UFC in most other parts of the world.[/quote]<br />
I must admit you have put forth a pretty good argument.<br />
So basically what you are saying is that M-1 has the potential to someday replace Pride.  M-1 would be competing with K-1 and Heroes.  One &#8220;wild card&#8221; with respect to M-1 is Fedor&#8217;s manager.  Already, some of the M-1 investors are at odds with him.  How long will the investors put up with Fedor&#8217;s manager (who by the way has a contoversial track record)?  Competition is not a bad thing.  However, I personally do not think that any organization will come close to rivalling the UFC in North America (including Mexico where the UFC is now ready to enter) in the forseeable future.</p>
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