I think that Jardine beating Wanderlei is even more unlikely than Griffin beating Jackson, so I wouldn’t be so quick to come with such declarations if I were you, Keith.

Chuck’s loss to Jardine could really hurt him. The fact that there is a scenario where he beats Wandy and Shogun and doesn’t get a title shot is crazy. If Jardine, Chuck, and Forrest win, does Chuck fight Machida? In that extremely unlikely scenario, I guess I would be rooting for Jardine over Forrest. That way, Chuck could win back the belt and avenge the loss at the same time.

keith has beat him before quite easily, maybe he thinks he can do it again.

Sorry to say but Jardine is going to get KO’ed if he fights wanderlei. He didnt do so well in the clinch againt houston and look what happened,and wandy has one of the best around.

wow ufc has put jardine in a lose lose situation. he should already be fighting for the belt. now he wont get a chance because i dont see him beating wanderlei.

IF jardine beats silva and (previously) liddell and doesn’t get a title shot, that’s wack.

does shogun deserve a shot if he beats liddell? he holds a win over rampage but he also got embarassed against griffin.

To many if’s for jardine. First off I dont think Rampage is going to lose to griffen. His new camp is actually training him properly for each of his fights unlike rampage jacksons last trainer.

I also think Jardine will beat wandi in a match. When he beats him, I think he should get the shot against rampage.

I like Jardine the guy has definately got skills which he showed against Bonner,Forrest and Chuck. He made a mistake against Houston which I don’t think he will repeat. His leg kicks are second to none. Technical, accurate and powerful. The UFC does not want Jardine as a champion because he is not marketable for them, they are going to make it as difficult as possible for him. He just beat Chuck, Chuck just beat Silva. It makes no sense and is not fair on Jardine that he should be fighting Silva. The UFC definately has it’s favourite fighters and you cam really tell the ones they want to make it difficult for, Karo is another one. I do not mind Jardine, he may lack personality and charisma, but he makes up for all that inside the octagan with his fighting skills and heart. I feel sorry for him though, because it does not matter how good he is, he will never be good enough for Dana or the UFC. I hope he goes all the way.

Plain and simple : who cares if Jardine beat Chuck and Forrest, he has less marketability that a bag of marbles. No title shot in near future for him !

Forrest vs. Rampage winner will face winner of Liddell vs. Shogun

Keith Jardine was mauled by Houston Alexander. Wanderlei Silva has a solid chance of winning against Jardine. If Jardine manages to win, he’d prob face Lyoto Machida or Thiago Silva.

Feedback ?

[quote comment=”301993″]wow ufc has put jardine in a lose lose situation. he should already be fighting for the belt. now he wont get a chance because i dont see him beating wanderlei.[/quote]

Why should he be fighting for the belt? He only has one win since getting KTFO!

rampage will destroy forrest.

DESTROY

jardine should already be in line for the belt to begin with if he were to beat silva there should be no questions about it what so ever that he is next regardless of the lidell-shogun fight

JARDINE IS MORE DESERVING OF A TITLE SHOT THAN GRIFFIN, ESPECIALLY IF HE WERE TO BEAT SILVA.

[quote comment=”301945″]Chuck’s loss to Jardine could really hurt him. The fact that there is a scenario where he beats Wandy and Shogun and doesn’t get a title shot is crazy. If Jardine, Chuck, and Forrest win, does Chuck fight Machida? In that extremely unlikely scenario, I guess I would be rooting for Jardine over Forrest. That way, Chuck could win back the belt and avenge the loss at the same time.[/quote]
why the hell would over-rated chuck get a title shot b4 a guy who punked him out,,,over-rated chucky needs to b down the list…i guess all that oral pleasure he gives dana is worth it for him…i cant wait till over-rated chucky goes away for ever then the ufc can have people that deserve title shots get them not people that dana loves

[quote comment=”302084″]Plain and simple : who cares if Jardine beat Chuck and Forrest, he has less marketability that a bag of marbles. No title shot in near future for him !

Forrest vs. Rampage winner will face winner of Liddell vs. Shogun

Keith Jardine was mauled by Houston Alexander. Wanderlei Silva has a solid chance of winning against Jardine. If Jardine manages to win, he’d prob face Lyoto Machida or Thiago Silva.

Feedback ?[/quote]
Right on man! My thoughts exactly. Why on earth would the UFC choose a Forrest/JardineII when they can have Forrest/Liddell or a Forrest/ShogunII.

thank u pdubb for bein smart,,,all these people that love chuck need to honestly look and explain why does chucky deserve a title shot over a guy who beat him down if chucky had beat jardine and they were lookin to give jardine a shot 1st u people would b goin crazy explain ur guys double standard

So if Forrest beats Rampage, and Jardin beats Forrest does that mean Houston Alexander is the next champ?

PDubb you idiot, Jardine got mauled by Houston in 48 seconds and won a SPLIT decision over Chuck who was KOd by Rampage….Dana let Chuck fight Wandy because it was a better match up for the fans…did you really want to see Jardine fight Wandy before Chuck?? If that happened then Chuck vs. Wanderlei would have NEVER happened. In my opinion, Chuck should win 2 more and then fight for the title…Jardine needs to win 2 more as well, we all know Machida should be fighting for that damn title, he just boring though so Dana wont give him the shot.

the LHW division is in a mess…too many people think they deserve a title shot right away and its too bad we wont see the title match until freaking August…hopefully that gives some time for more fights to find out who the top contender for the title is…

Where is Machida in this mess? He needs to fight a big name and prove that he belongs in the top 3.

i think jardine deserves a title shot.

he KOed forrest & beat liddell.
i kno he lost to houston, but two wins like that?

title shot worthy.

Rampage will be champion for the next 2 years, so all this speculation is without merit. The only fighters I give a shot at beating Rampage are the former Chute Box Boys Wanderlei and Shogun. to be honest, even though they have repeatedly beatdown Rampage in the past, I think that this is a completely different Rampage that we are seeing, and as long as he has juanito in his corner, Rampage will be champion for a long time.

Heres a fun Fact for u all: Juanito was Vitor Blforts trainer back when Vitor destroyed wanderlei.

Doesnt really matter who the champ is at 205, that division is so deep that most potential matches involving top 10 fighters of that division will all be great matches..

I dont feel that Jardine deserves a title shot. After all he is on a 1 fight winning streak. In reality Chuck shouldnt get a title shot even if he beats Shogun because he will only be onj a 2 fight winning streak going (2-2) in his last 4 fights.
However, the UFC chooses to ignore Chucks first loss to Rampage and they will justify him getting a shot at Rampage (if he beats shogun) by saying Chuck was a dominant champ for a long time, he lost to Rampage, (ignore the Jardine fight) and then went on 2 beat the 2 guys that beat the crap out of Rampage in the past so he deserves another shot at Rampage. I dont agree with this scenario but it is a reality.

I hope that Dan Henderson looses to Silva because there are some great fights waiting for Hendo at 205 lb:
Hendo vs. Wanderlei III
Hendo vs. Liddell would be awesome
Hendo vs. Shogun would be a long awaited fight
Hendo vs. Jardine would be great as well
Hendo vs. Machida would be really interesting as well

[quote comment=”302148″]JARDINE IS MORE DESERVING OF A TITLE SHOT THAN GRIFFIN, ESPECIALLY IF HE WERE TO BEAT SILVA.[/quote]
U r out of your mind!!! WTF??? Ok, I know what u r trying 2 say, but u r WRONG!!! Griffin is coming off of his biggest win. Jardine got ko’ed by Houston Alexander! So how does 1 make a conclusion such as this???

[quote comment=”302172″]i think jardine deserves a title shot.

he KOed forrest & beat liddell.
i kno he lost to houston, but two wins like that?

title shot worthy.[/quote]
Ok, I guess Werdum deserves his shot @ HW also then,right???

I may be one of the few ppl who think Jardine would be Wanderlei. I think he’d be able to win a decision, possibly TKO, but not sure about that.

i want u guys to answer honestly…i fill jardine deserves the title shot over over-rated chucky jardine beat down chucky…but it seems all u people fill over-rated chucky deserves the shot over jardine…heres the deal if over-rated chucky beat jardine and they were gonna give the shot to jardine u chuck lovers would b haveingf a riot

please explain

[quote comment=”302155″]thank u pdubb for bein smart,,,all these people that love chuck need to honestly look and explain why does chucky deserve a title shot over a guy who beat him down if chucky had beat jardine and they were lookin to give jardine a shot 1st u people would b goin crazy explain ur guys double standard[/quote]
Beat him down? Did you even see that fight? Chuck won first round jardean won second if chuck took him down twice he would of won the fight! Learn the sport and the scoring get a life and stop being a hater

i think after shougan chuck needs to beat 2 more top fighters out of these 5. . . .

Manchida (even though it could be boring)

Jardean (to get revenge)

Hendo (need i say why)

T silva (always good to beat a good up and comer)

Rashard (i would like to see him get smashed and get him to drop to mw)

i spelt jardine wrong twice im going to get ripped apart lol

Wow at how niave you guys are on here.

Hardly shocking.

Wandy will drop down the ladder - Shogun is not gonna ever be good in a cage - Chuck is solid against anyone - Forrest will not win - Jardine should never be under estimated.

Forest is good, but i dont see him beating Rampage

I would LOVE it if Jardine was somehow able to pull a win out of his ass against Wandy.

The Chuck Lovers here make me sick…you are all out of your minds and are on the same drug that Dana White is on…you all seem to think that because Chucky is a name he should always be in the main event. I would rather see Jardine fight for the title then that over rated beer gut having has-been…Jardine deserves it way more then Chunky…err I mean Chucky…face it..he is another Ken Shamrock..he is hanging on way too long and is making the sport of MMA a joke. He is not a headliner anymore and is just taking spots away from young and up and coming fighters like Machida and Thiago Silva who deserve to be there. So when Chucky gets done fighting ShoGun and getting knocked out..I will be laughing while you lovers and Dana White cry into your pillows

I got a great place for Chucky to fight…in the IFL alongside the other has beens and never-will-be’s of the MMA sport!

2muchin hatin goin on, leave Rashad outta dis

Winner of Chuck/Shogun will get the winner of the fight, regardless who.

No matter Jardine beating Forrest and Chuck, he hasn’t been able to string together two wins in a row in the UFC. If you can’t put together three wins, you’re not in line for a title shot in my opinion.

[quote comment=”302116″]rampage will destroy forrest.

DESTROY[/quote]

I once read long ago, “Shogun will destroy Forrest” DESTROY.
Randy Couture will prepare Forrest well to face Rampage and if there’s one man I put my money on it’s Couture!

[quote comment=”302209″]i spelt jardine wrong twice im going to get ripped apart lol[/quote]

You spelled spelled wrong too, spelt that’s great!

[quote comment=”301984″]Sorry to say but Jardine is going to get KO’ed if he fights wanderlei. He didnt do so well in the clinch againt houston and look what happened,and wandy has one of the best around.[/quote]

Jardine is almost as underrated as Tim Sylvia. When be brutally KOd Griffin: “It was a fluke. Forrest was winning until he got KOd, he’d take a rematch”. When he brutalized Chuck Liddell with leg and body kicks and won a decision: “Chuck had an off night, he would win a rematch against Keith”.

Keith is taller than Wandy, he would also come into the fight weighing around 230lbs (I think Wand is closer to 215lbs). He’s faster than Wand, he’s a more techinical kickboxer and his striking is more dynamic. Do you really think a guy that big and quick will let Wandy grab a MT clinch on him? Jardine will win.

However, there is no chance in hell that Forrest will beat QJ, so he still has a ways to go for a title shot.

Yeah, but his picks have not been what they used to be. Randy used to go 6 for 8, 7 for 8, 8 for 8. Now he’s lucky to guess half the endings. Besides, his obvious pick(Forrest) would show favoritism, and it ain’t like he can predict Rampage over his own fighter. That would be different though.

Rampage did well against his last 2 or 3 opponets. Forrest has momentum as well. I’d like to see Forrest win although he’d be the underdog.

It’s also hilarious how great people think Randy is considering how badly he’s been destroyed by Chuck. I’d actually like to see him fight guys like Machida, Jardine, and QJ at HW. That division is really lacking in good fighters.

If you would have told me a year ago that Jardine and Forrest could be potentially fighting for the title in 08′, I’d think you were crazy. Especially with the way the LHW division was boosted in 07 by the arrival of the PRIDE fighters.

Forrest wont beat rampage even if they gave 2 rounds to forrest before the fight started! Jardine should get a title shot before liddell and shogun is not in anybodys league hes pathetic!!!!

So I hear alot of you say Shogun will maul down Liddell, ha ha lol, funny stuff really, let me ask some of you something, do any of you know someone who was on steroids and then stopped taking them? if so, were you able to tell the difference in their physique? of course you were. Well often people make fun of Liddell’s “beer gut” well come June I’m sure we’re gonna have a “Shogun man boobs” fan club, why am I saying this? Take a look at this video, long gone are the days of a lean muscled Shogun, or as some of you like to say “the old Shogun” he’s in for one wild night in June.

http://forums.mmanews.com/general-mma-forum/21869-shogun-looking-out-shape-his-next-fight.html

[quote comment=”302243″]It’s also hilarious how great people think Randy is considering how badly he’s been destroyed by Chuck. I’d actually like to see him fight guys like Machida, Jardine, and QJ at HW. That division is really lacking in good fighters.[/quote]
Dude, wtf do u think the UFC iz trying 2 do now? It’s not like they didn’t try 2 get Fedor(half-heartedly). Nobody wins them all!

Shogun’s man-boobs, or Liddell’s beer-gut? Who wins? Whoever stays awake long enough.

Haha…its been a while, but I’m back. Funny stuff b-ing said here. I’d like to stay on a positive note for now by just saying good luck to Jardine.

[quote comment=”302221″]The Chuck Lovers here make me sick…you are all out of your minds and are on the same drug that Dana White is on…you all seem to think that because Chucky is a name he should always be in the main event. I would rather see Jardine fight for the title then that over rated beer gut having has-been…Jardine deserves it way more then Chunky…err I mean Chucky…face it..he is another Ken Shamrock..he is hanging on way too long and is making the sport of MMA a joke. He is not a headliner anymore and is just taking spots away from young and up and coming fighters like Machida and Thiago Silva who deserve to be there. So when Chucky gets done fighting ShoGun and getting knocked out..I will be laughing while you lovers and Dana White cry into your pillows[/quote]

I’ve never been a huge Chuck fan but how can you say he’s not a headliner anymore when his last fight with Wanderlei was phenomenal? And everyone always talks on these threads how the UFC needs to put together match-ups that the fans want, and Chuck is one of the biggest draws in the UFC. Fighters hat are more exciting and more marketable are going to get the best fights, doing so is giving the fans what they want.

hey ice fish i jus watched jardine vs over-rated chuck and 1st round toss up 2nd round jardine dominates heck chuck went to the wrong corner afterwards 3rd round jardine again so yes id say beat him down after the fight chucky put his hands up the crowd bood him…jardine had that fight in hand so sorry icefish ur hero is past his time…i jus wish he could fight the future lw champ thiago silva chucky wouldnt see the 2nd round…for chucky theres alwayz the ifl and he can take bj penn wit him

Bring jardine against alexander again, so he can get beat again, and we will have one less problem in the LHW title contention..

[quote comment=”302306″]hey ice fish i jus watched jardine vs over-rated chuck and 1st round toss up 2nd round jardine dominates heck chuck went to the wrong corner afterwards 3rd round jardine again so yes id say beat him down after the fight chucky put his hands up the crowd bood him…jardine had that fight in hand so sorry icefish ur hero is past his time…i jus wish he could fight the future lw champ thiago silva chucky wouldnt see the 2nd round…for chucky theres alwayz the ifl and he can take bj penn wit him[/quote]
Past his prime? Maybe? But then why did Chuck beat a guy 7 years his junior?

What if Wanderlei Silva and Tito win?

watever the case of the next Jardine fight->gets the title shot in the fall..then

…winner of Tito/Machida fight gets the winner of Shogun/Liddell in the fall..and THAT winner gets the New Year’s title shot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[quote comment=”302170″]Where is Machida in this mess? He needs to fight a big name and prove that he belongs in the top 3.[/quote]

Machida has beaten the following fighters: Rich Franklin (TKO), BJ Penn, Stephan Bonner and destoyed Sokoudjou. He deserves the title shot, but his face does not sell tickets. The same reason why Lesnar is making $250k and Sylvia is making $100k. UFC looks at it this way, $250k/$39.99 = 6000 PPV buys. Will 6000 more people buy if Lesnar is on the card? If yes, then he is a profit. Similar with Satelite Radio. If 8 million people already have a Sirius subscription and someone wants to leave regular radio and sign with Satelite, the satelite companies have to ask, how many people do we add if we hire Mr X? If answer is not enough, then it does not make sense to sign them on. All about the benjamins and Machida and Sylvia do not bring them in.

[quote comment=”302313″]Bring jardine against alexander again, so he can get beat again, and we will have one less problem in the LHW title contention..[/quote]

Jardine was actually putting a beating on Houston before he decided to try to “Don Frye” him. But Houston is 2-hit wonder as far as I’m concerned. His wrestling is piss poor and the way he let Silva pass from half-guard to mount was extremely sad.

[quote comment=”302207″]i think after shougan chuck needs to beat 2 more top fighters out of these 5. . . .

Manchida (even though it could be boring)

Jardean (to get revenge)

Hendo (need i say why)

T silva (always good to beat a good up and comer)

Rashard (i would like to see him get smashed and get him to drop to mw)[/quote]

[quote comment=”302209″]i spelt jardine wrong twice im going to get ripped apart lol[/quote]

you are like a train wreck LOL! you have just about everyones name spelled incorrectly… very funny nevertheless btw, you also “spelt” it wrong…dont worry nobody is counting

I think Jardine is getting shafted. I know that they need a champion who is marketable but that shouldnt be the only thing they look for. Jardine beat Forrest, then he made a mistake against Houston, and then he beat the former champ, and even though it wasnt a dominating perfomance it should still count. Forrest loses to Jardine, then gets a fight against a fighter with skill but who is nowhere near title contention, and then he beats Shogun and gets a title fight. In my mind if Jardine wins his next fight he should get a title shot. If not him then who, it cant be the winner of the Lidell Shogun fight, I mean Lidell has to climb back up the ladder if he wants a third shot at Rampage, and Shogun looked horrible in his last fight. And what if Silva wins he wont get a title shot, and then theres the Machida Ortiz fight, what if Ortiz wins then leaves, the UFC could possibly have LHW contenders. Man my head hurts

the UFC could possibly have “no” LHW contenders. Man my head hurts

i mean

Thiago Silva is going to destroy the entire division in the next 2 years!

Jardine wont beat Wanderlei and chuck will beat Shogun, then Forrest will beat rampage and then will beat chuck. People are really not takeing forrest seriously enough.

Forrest should not be fighting for that title as we all know and guess what, dana white will keep doing whatever he can to keep jardine away from gettng a title shot!

Dana has his favorites like lidell,bisping,franklin,forrest strictly for marketability and money…and then there are the jardines,machidas,parysians and arlovskis of MMA that continue to get pushed aside and deserve title shots! theres a reason he doesnt have rankings and thats simply so he can continue to pull this kinda of staged crap that doesnt reward the winners or most deserving!

the sport is slowly losing credibility all because of dana white and greed

i thought if chuck beat shogun he got a title shot

hopefully jardine can force his way in to a title shot a s he truly has earnt it

if he hadnt fought houston hed already have one

If Jardine beats Wandy, however unlikely that may be, then he definately deserves the next title shot. That said, the UFC overlords don’t always give the title shots to those who deserve it most.

Machida isn’t a top contender yet and neither is Rashad or Thiago Silva. You gotta beat a contender to be a contender. That means one of Chuck, Wandy, Rua, Rampage, Jardine or Forrest. Oh, or Hendo if he doesn’t stay at MW.

I know Machida’s beaten BJ and Franklin, but those fights were 3 and 5 years ago respectively.

[quote comment=”302170″]Where is Machida in this mess? He needs to fight a big name and prove that he belongs in the top 3.[/quote]

From the sounds of it Machida is going to get Tito Ortiz on his last fight of his contract. If Machida wins that you would have to put him in line for the title shot as well. What a mess.

i have to say that i agree with somebody’s post earlier that shogun and most likely wanderlei were both on steroids in pride…i just thought that in both their last fights they looked way smaller than before…shogun just looks plain flabby and that could be bc of the knee but im not so sure…and i though wanderlei just looked ridiculously smaller than he used to..not to mention his swollen head

[quote comment=”302389″][quote comment=”302207″]i think after shougan chuck needs to beat 2 more top fighters out of these 5. . . .

Manchida (even though it could be boring)

Jardean (to get revenge)

Hendo (need i say why)

T silva (always good to beat a good up and comer)

Rashard (i would like to see him get smashed and get him to drop to mw)[/quote]

[quote comment=”302209″]i spelt jardine wrong twice im going to get ripped apart lol[/quote]

you are like a train wreck LOL! you have just about everyones name spelled incorrectly… very funny nevertheless btw, you also “spelt” it wrong…dont worry nobody is counting[/quote]

There’s nothing wrong with “spelt”. It’s less common in American english, but spelt is an alternative to “spelled” as the past tense and past participle. It’s the same case with a few verbs: burnt/burned, spilt/spilled and quite a few more. Hopefully you’ve learnt something today.

wow ufc has put jardine in a lose lose situation. he should already be fighting for the belt. now he wont get a chance because i dont see him beating wanderlei.

Why should he be fighting for the belt? He only has one win since getting KTFO!

Because he has already beat the two people getting a shot at the belt.

I will laugh so hard when, excuse me, if Jardine wins. The guy actually has a legimate shot at beating Wanderlei. I’m not a betting man but I’m sure he’ll probably be a huge underdog despite his exploits against Chuck.

Probably worth a bet for those gamblers out there. Surely it will be a positive expectation bet because as someone explained to me here before when the big bucks get laid down on Wanderlei early in the betting the line will probably change making Wandy a bigger favourite and Keith a bigger underdog. (Due to many casual fans giving Jardine absolutely no chance).

Of course then more people will bet on Jardine as the odds will be too good to refuse. The line will then probably go back the other way. Think that happened for the Mir Lesnar fight. It definitely evened up in the last few days.

I think if Jardine wins he should get a title shot weather or not Griffin wins. He has defeated Griffin and Liddell and if they give the title shot to Liddell before him that would be rediculous and it would only show that the UFC has no respect for Jardine. However if I were him I wouldn’t look past Wanderlei Silva. Silva poses a very dangerous threat for Jardine and I beleieve that Silva should be favored. He has a major stylistic advantage over Jardine. If Silva wins what’s next for him? I think if Loyoto Machida wins he should fight him or if Shogun wins he should fight him. This is going to be a very interesting coarce of events and I am interested to se what happens.

This division is awesome, Thiago Silva, Lyoto Machida, Chuck Liddell, Forrest, Rampage, Wanderlei, Shogun … plus new addition like Boestch - there are so many good match ups - cant wait.

I’m glad Bobby Southworth never made it in the UFC. He would damper all these good matchups.

I want to know, when one becomes as rich as Dana has, what do you do with the money? Or the Fertitas? WOW!!!
Sorry, but I can only eat so many steaks.

[quote comment=”302243″]It’s also hilarious how great people think Randy is considering how badly he’s been destroyed by Chuck. I’d actually like to see him fight guys like Machida, Jardine, and QJ at HW. That division is really lacking in good fighters.[/quote]
For one, styles make fights, and Chuck is curtain cut to beat Randy. But Randy’s stand up has changed PLENTY since then, and I would put my money on him to win if they fought today.

[quote comment=”302733″][quote comment=”302243″]It’s also hilarious how great people think Randy is considering how badly he’s been destroyed by Chuck. I’d actually like to see him fight guys like Machida, Jardine, and QJ at HW. That division is really lacking in good fighters.[/quote]
For one, styles make fights, and Chuck is curtain cut to beat Randy. But Randy’s stand up has changed PLENTY since then, and I would put my money on him to win if they fought today.[/quote]

I agree, Randy is a master of stategy and gameplans He really is at the top of his game He could beat lidddell to bad it wont happen then they could be 2 & 2 and go for the deciding best out of five.

I dont care that Jardine is not a ufc poster boy this isnt a damn popularity contest, If he wins his next fight he deserves an immediate title shot. Tim sylvia isnt marketable either but look at how many title shots he was given in the past three years.

[quote comment=”302733″][quote comment=”302243″]It’s also hilarious how great people think Randy is considering how badly he’s been destroyed by Chuck. I’d actually like to see him fight guys like Machida, Jardine, and QJ at HW. That division is really lacking in good fighters.[/quote]
For one, styles make fights, and Chuck is curtain cut to beat Randy. But Randy’s stand up has changed PLENTY since then, and I would put my money on him to win if they fought today.[/quote]
I agree, Randy’s standup has gotten better. I don’t know if I’d put money on Randy taking it though. To me; it would depend on what weight class. HW; Randy. LHW; Liddell.(my opinion)

jardine is a joke forest will beat rampage in the 2nd round tko guaranteed chuck will win against shogun 1st round tko jardine should defintley lose to silva either of them bj penn will kill sherk and gsp in two point two

It is inevitable that the 205 pound division becomes the heaviest weight class in the UFC if Dana keeps treating fighters with the way he is.

With Randy gone it had an immediate impact, and I think Big Nog showed this when he begged him to come back after he won the other week. Big Nog only has Mir, Kongo, Wedrum, Gonzaga left … (not sure where Cro Cop is)

Soon to leave are Arlovski and Sylvia, (and I bet Mir once his contract is up) soon the most marketable heavyweights are outside of the UFC and I can not wait.

Sharpteeth,
I agree, glad 2 c somebody that knows what they’re talking about.

[quote comment=”302426″]Jardine wont beat Wanderlei and chuck will beat Shogun, then Forrest will beat rampage and then will beat chuck. People are really not takeing forrest seriously enough.[/quote]
I agree with you until the part about Forrest beating Chuck.

[quote comment=”302116″]rampage will destroy forrest.

DESTROY[/quote]

Uh… You mean like he destroyed Shogun?

Jardine vs Machida or thiago silva, tito vs Wandy would be better then some of these bs match ups.

you chuck haters are sad! How l