When was that photo taken?

BTW– Cro Cop is done.

One other thing, it appears that the UFC has learned their lesson about feeding can to the talent.

Shogun and Lesnar are getting thrown right into the fire.

This is a better strategy for many reasons. 1. If the star loses to another star, then the loss is excusable. 2. It fast-tracks the fights we all want to see. 3. It avoids awkward situations that Cro Cop finds himself in (that guy couldn’t possibly get a title shot for at least a couple of fights).

I think the UFC is learning that 1 in the hand is better than 2 in the bush.

[quote comment=”300291″]When was that photo taken?

BTW– Cro Cop is done.[/quote]

I think prior to Mirkos fight at UFC 75.

Thanks for reminding me

Whats the point of picture?

[quote comment=”300314″]Whats the point of picture?[/quote]

LOL DUDE?!

Had GG lost to Cro Cop then guess who woud have fought him?!?!?!? RC brother!! lol

Ill break it down for you:

RC: HW Champion

Cro Cop \
> # 1 Contender (winnner gets title shot)
Gabriel G /

UFC 75

GG KOs Cro Cop with a nasty headkick and ruins the Cro Cop V Randy C fight for the fans… get it?

Thanks.

This pisses me off cuz I wanna argue and say CC is not done and blah blah blah but I just cant…. CC you really let me down you bastard.

Yeah, it pains me too. I had really high hopes for CC. I’d invite friends who were unfamiliar with MMA to watch Cro Cop and then have to explain that he’s normally much better than that.

I’m just speculating, but I’m guessing they have offered Lesnar to CC. Lesnar doesn’t have an opponent, and the fight is in England. It just seems like a natural slot for CC, who hasn’t fought since Sept. ‘07.

I think Lesnar wins that fight and I’m guessing CC knows it too, hence the delay in his response to Dana.

I’m guessing we’ll see a retirement announcment in the near future (I hope I’m wrong about that).

I never really cared much for this match up. Cro Cop was highly ranked in my mind, but I knew that stylistically he had nothing for Randy… It would have been a lopsided beatdown…

he is not done he lost in k-1 and pride and has been knock out before more than once in k-1 the best fights fight each other over there careers 4 to 6 times usally splitting the wins and knock outs over each other and come back. when you are fighting the best people out there you are going to lose some.

i feel that this is another chuck liddel story the ufc has to give crocop a big name fighter in order for him to train hard and compete at his best

I believe crocop will come out big and destroy all his apponents and win the heavyweight belt but i just dont like the way ufc ruins all great fighters career, im so happy that fedor is not in the ufc

Cro Cop was a great Pride fighter but sucked in UFC.
He will be undercard in his next fight like AA and join M1.

how did the ufc ruin cc’s career he fought and lost end of story. hopefully he doesn’t retire, and hopefully he drops to 205 where I think he would crush guys.

[quote comment=”300342″]i feel that this is another chuck liddel story the ufc has to give crocop a big name fighter in order for him to train hard and compete at his best[/quote]

I would love to see that happen. The HW division isn’t very strong right now and when Arlovski leaves, then Randy, then maybe Sylvia…it’s his opportunity now to start a comeback. I really would love to see him make a run at the title before he retires. I think he’s got some great fights left in him. Unfortunately I think the UFC is going to give him a can or low B level fighter. They spent a fair amount of money to bring him over and he’s been a bust up until this point. I hope he’s been working on his ground game cause it’s not his strongest point.

[quote comment=”300340″]I never really cared much for this match up. Cro Cop was highly ranked in my mind, but I knew that stylistically he had nothing for Randy… It would have been a lopsided beatdown…[/quote]
I agree RC would take down CC and beat him senseless.
I would vote to let Mir have a shot at the title he deserved it by submitting Lesnar.

[quote post=”4864″]Yeah, it pains me too. I had really high hopes for CC. I’d invite friends who were unfamiliar with MMA to watch Cro Cop and then have to explain that he’s normally much better than that.[/quote]

I was the same way. I liked crocop a lot. I would talk about him to my friends who were just starting to get into MMA. Then when the UFC signed him, I was telling everyone to watch out for this guy. Oh well. I hope CroCop comes back for a few more fights, but it doesn’t look like that will happen.

[quote comment=”300375″][quote comment=”300342″]i feel that this is another chuck liddel story the ufc has to give crocop a big name fighter in order for him to train hard and compete at his best[/quote]

I would love to see that happen. The HW division isn’t very strong right now and when Arlovski leaves, then Randy, then maybe Sylvia…it’s his opportunity now to start a comeback. I really would love to see him make a run at the title before he retires. I think he’s got some great fights left in him. Unfortunately I think the UFC is going to give him a can or low B level fighter. They spent a fair amount of money to bring him over and he’s been a bust up until this point. I hope he’s been working on his ground game cause it’s not his strongest point.[/quote]

I don’t think they’ll give him anymore cans. He’ll be thrown into the deep end and either sink or swim.

[quote comment=”300291″]When was that photo taken?

BTW– Cro Cop is done.[/quote]

I think he can make a comeback. He just needs a solid win over a solid opponent.

[quote comment=”300401″][quote comment=”300340″]I never really cared much for this match up. Cro Cop was highly ranked in my mind, but I knew that stylistically he had nothing for Randy… It would have been a lopsided beatdown…[/quote]
I agree RC would take down CC and beat him senseless.
I would vote to let Mir have a shot at the title he deserved it by submitting Lesnar.[/quote]

mir desreves a title shot for looking like crap since his accident and beating a guy with one mma fight in 90 seconds.alot of people think cro cop has no ground game but it is improving he got alot better at it in pride and did well against fedor and nog.

[quote comment=”300402″][quote post=”4864″]Yeah, it pains me too. I had really high hopes for CC. I’d invite friends who were unfamiliar with MMA to watch Cro Cop and then have to explain that he’s normally much better than that.[/quote]

I was the same way. I liked crocop a lot. I would talk about him to my friends who were just starting to get into MMA. Then when the UFC signed him, I was telling everyone to watch out for this guy. Oh well. I hope CroCop comes back for a few more fights, but it doesn’t look like that will happen.[/quote]

Trust me, Cro Cop put many of us knowlegable fans in that same predicament.

Joe Silva really needs to match up Lesnar with Sylvia. After this past weekend it makes even more sense. Let the monsters battle it out. I’d LOVE to see that one.

In my mind, the match that makes the most sense next in the HW division is Cro Cop vs. Brandon Verra. Verra is already rumored to be booked for UFC 85 in London, might as well make cro cop his opponent. Cro Cop may be sick of getting his ass kicked in England, either way I would like to see Cro Cop vs. verra…the battle of the undersized Heavyweight strikers. If Verra cant get passed Cro Cop…he has to drop down to Light Heavyweight.

[quote comment=”300291″]When was that photo taken?

BTW– Cro Cop is done.[/quote]

All you rookies who think Cro Cop is “done” are a JOKE. You aren’t true MMA fans.

Cro Cop is a BEAST, probably the best P4P striker in the world (yes, better then Spyder Silva).

Cro Cop had a deveated septum and couldn’t breathe, that is why his cardio sucked in his fight with Kongo (and being kneed in the nuts 10 times doesn’t help either)

WATCH…Cro Cop will be back to silence all you band-wagon MMA fans.

He is one left high kick away from UFC stardom

“Right leg- hospital. Left leg- cemetery.” - Cro Cop

Crocop is talented but he let his loss to Fedor hurt him instead of build him up. Great fighters lose, but they allow the experience to teach them something that they didn’t know about themselves beforehand. I hope Cro figures that out and comes back at his full potential.

I haven’t given up on Cro just yet.

We can thank Gonzaga for that? Since you’re saying that in a negative way, how about you instead thank CroCop for that? Maybe if the man properly trained for his opponent then maybe he could’ve won that fight. Instead lets blame the man that did properly train. Yeah that seems like great logic.

He should drop to 205 period. He would be a monster.

the HW are too big and too tall.

[quote comment=”300401″][quote comment=”300340″]I never really cared much for this match up. Cro Cop was highly ranked in my mind, but I knew that stylistically he had nothing for Randy… It would have been a lopsided beatdown…[/quote]
I agree RC would take down CC and beat him senseless.
I would vote to let Mir have a shot at the title he deserved it by submitting Lesnar.[/quote]

Uhh, no. Mir needs to get another win over a top 5 HW before he gets a title shot. Maybe re-match him with Vera. Vera kicked his ass the last time out.

[quote post=”4864″]All you rookies who think Cro Cop is “done” are a JOKE. You aren’t true MMA fans.

Cro Cop is a BEAST, probably the best P4P striker in the world (yes, better then Spyder Silva).[/quote]

I don’t think Cro Cop is done, but he’s not the best striker. HE got out-struck by Fedor. Fedor had him backing down.

Anderson Silva has always dominated on the feet.

Man this is taking too long already to hear Crocop’s next opponent, its drving me crazy. Cmon UFC get this guy in the ring already

[quote comment=”300321″][quote comment=”300314″]Whats the point of picture?[/quote]

LOL DUDE?!

Had GG lost to Cro Cop then guess who woud have fought him?!?!?!? RC brother!! lol

Ill break it down for you:

RC: HW Champion

Cro Cop

\
> # 1 Contender (winnner gets title shot)
Gabriel G

/

UFC 75

GG KOs Cro Cop with a nasty headkick and ruins the Cro Cop V Randy C fight for the fans… get it?[/quote]

I think the original poster meant to say, “and this is news because…”

[quote comment=”300465″]Crocop is talented but he let his loss to Fedor hurt him instead of build him up. Great fighters lose, but they allow the experience to teach them something that they didn’t know about themselves beforehand. I hope Cro figures that out and comes back at his full potential.

I haven’t given up on Cro just yet.[/quote]

he won the grand prix after that loss didn’t he

[quote comment=”300451″][quote comment=”300291″]When was that photo taken?

BTW– Cro Cop is done.[/quote]

All you rookies who think Cro Cop is “done” are a JOKE. You aren’t true MMA fans.

Cro Cop is a BEAST, probably the best P4P striker in the world (yes, better then Spyder Silva).

Cro Cop had a deveated septum and couldn’t breathe, that is why his cardio sucked in his fight with Kongo (and being kneed in the nuts 10 times doesn’t help either)

WATCH…Cro Cop will be back to silence all you band-wagon MMA fans.

He is one left high kick away from UFC stardom

“Right leg- hospital. Left leg- cemetery.” - Cro Cop[/quote]

What does evaluating a fighter’s future have to do with being a true mma fan?

Cro Cop is the one alluding to retirement and complaining to referrees that he’s too old for this. He’s also the one that won’t commit to another fight.

Just because he was once great, doesn’t mean that he’ll always be great. Do you think Michael Jordan is the best basketball player alive today, because he was such 20 years ago?

Cro Cop admitted that he didn’t have the fire-in-the-belly for his recent fights. His achilles heal has also been exposed (i.e., he isn’t effective fighting on his heals, and totally ineffective on the ground).

I’d like to see him return to his former glory. But just because I don’t idolize the guy doesn’t mean I’m not a true mma fan. Face reality, will you? (Also, try to derive some self-esteem from something besides how long you’ve been watching mma.)

Ill break it down for you:

RC: HW Champion

Cro Cop

\
> # 1 Contender (winnner gets title shot)
Gabriel G

/

UFC 75

GG KOs Cro Cop with a nasty headkick and ruins the Cro Cop V Randy C fight for the fans… get it?[/quote]

HEY BUSTYOFACE…IF YOU ARE GOING TO BREAK IT DOWN, THEN PLEASE BE ACCURATE!!!! IT WAS UFC 70 THAT GONZAGA KNOCKED OUT CROCOP. SO, IF THE PHOTO WAS TAKEN PIGHT BEFORE UFC 75, THEN CROCOP WAS NO LONGER #1 CONTENDER!

[quote comment=”300451″][quote comment=”300291″]When was that photo taken?

BTW– Cro Cop is done.[/quote]

All you rookies who think Cro Cop is “done” are a JOKE. You aren’t true MMA fans.

Cro Cop is a BEAST, probably the best P4P striker in the world (yes, better then Spyder Silva).

Cro Cop had a deveated septum and couldn’t breathe, that is why his cardio sucked in his fight with Kongo (and being kneed in the nuts 10 times doesn’t help either)

WATCH…Cro Cop will be back to silence all you band-wagon MMA fans.

He is one left high kick away from UFC stardom

“Right leg- hospital. Left leg- cemetery.” - Cro Cop[/quote]

Yes, yes.. we’re all “MMA rookies,” because we have an opinion about a fighter. Is this the type of analysis we would get at ufcpreview.com? “You don’t agree with me?!?.. Well, you’re an idiot!!”

Count me out!

I’ll stick to a news site that doesn’t nuthug certain fighters, and blast you for not agreeing with their biased “opinions”.

move ufc in saitama super arena and call cro cop for his next fight

I take exception with UFCPreview.com’s comments, not because he’s condescending (he is, but that’s not why i care), but because he’s making up excuses for Cro Cop’s losses. Real fighters don’t make up excuses (and I don’t think Cro Cop has), and they certainly don’t need you to make up excuses for them. Scooby and R-Dizzle said it best, and UFCPreview does sound like he’s snuggling up to Cro Cop’s nutsack a bit much.

According to UFCPreview.com’s “About Me” section:

“A long time MMA fan and fighter. Train BJJ in Los Angeles, CA and train at LA Boxing in the valley. Currently a brown belt, expected pro debut sometime mid 2008.

Started this blog to give a breakdown of all UFC events from a fighters perspective. All over the web you can find information about potential fight rumors (90% of which turn out to be false), fighter saleries, weigh-ins, a bunch of crap that no one cares about.

I wanted to ANALYZE and breakdown the upcoming fights, for not only the diehard fan, but casual one as well. Even people who follow MMA non-stop find new UFC fighters they have no clue about and would like to know more.”

i’ll let the jury take it from here.

[quote comment=”300291″]When was that photo taken?

BTW– Cro Cop is done.[/quote]

We can all thank Dana White for single-handedly wrecking two of the greatest opportunities in MMA history. Randy vs CroCop and Randy vs Fedor. This sport is still in its infancy and missing obvious chances for growth displays incompetence in the extreme.

Randy is a tactician first, a fighter second, and I believe that his read on things would have resulted in a ’smart’ victory over both of these worthy opponents.

I think too many people are giving the one dimensional Cro-Cop too much credit. Maybe his best days are behind him and he’s just a shell of his former self, I don’t know. What I do know is that he is no longer the terror he once was and can’t compete against the American based talent pool that is the UFC.

As far as the fight with Randy Couture, it would have ended with a more sound and severe beating. Gonzaga did Cro-Cop a favor, a one shot kick to the dome that finished him. Randy would have taken his time, taken him down at will and punished him into submission, a beating that he would have never come back from! Fedor vs Randy is the only big fight anybody wants to see.

[quote comment=”300638″][quote comment=”300291″]When was that photo taken?

BTW– Cro Cop is done.[/quote]

We can all thank Dana White for single-handedly wrecking two of the greatest opportunities in MMA history. Randy vs CroCop and Randy vs Fedor. This sport is still in its infancy and missing obvious chances for growth displays incompetence in the extreme.

Randy is a tactician first, a fighter second, and I believe that his read on things would have resulted in a ’smart’ victory over both of these worthy opponents.[/quote]

how exactly did dana ruin randy vs cro cop? are you on drugs? Cro Cop is the one that didn’t train in a cage before his fight wiht GG. he is the one that got caught with a head kick and was out before he hit the mat. CC had his opportunity and blew it, end of story. it had nothing to do with Dana.

Cro Cop is not done. You are an idiot if you believe that. Cro Cop will fight again. He will win, and then he may retire. He isn’t going out on back-to-back losses, one of which is one of the most spectacular KOs in UFC history.

In the words of hogville.net, “Read more, post less.”

Cro Cop may make a come back, but he’d need to add something to his game. Seems like it’s maybe easier to keep guys on the ground in UFC? I’m no Pride expert though.

That said, I wonder if UFC will be the next one to fall. M1 sounds a bit crappy and the other shows do too, but there are lots of disgruntled fighters out there. Only takes about 10 of them to start their own show with more democratic rules / salaries, and UFC is outta there.

But who knows?

[quote comment=”300866″]Cro Cop may make a come back, but he’d need to add something to his game. Seems like it’s maybe easier to keep guys on the ground in UFC? I’m no Pride expert though.

That said, I wonder if UFC will be the next one to fall. M1 sounds a bit crappy and the other shows do too, but there are lots of disgruntled fighters out there. Only takes about 10 of them to start their own show with more democratic rules / salaries, and UFC is outta there.

But who knows?[/quote]

until they find out that it isn’t as easy to get a show together as people think and that advertising, cameras, promotion, insurance, etc all cost money. just because an event takes in millions, doesn’t mean that it all goes to Dana’s pocket. there are a lot of expenses.

[quote comment=”300736″][quote comment=”300638″][quote comment=”300291″]When was that photo taken?

BTW– Cro Cop is done.[/quote]

We can all thank Dana White for single-handedly wrecking two of the greatest opportunities in MMA history. Randy vs CroCop and Randy vs Fedor. This sport is still in its infancy and missing obvious chances for growth displays incompetence in the extreme.

Randy is a tactician first, a fighter second, and I believe that his read on things would have resulted in a ’smart’ victory over both of these worthy opponents.[/quote]

how exactly did dana ruin randy vs cro cop? are you on drugs? Cro Cop is the one that didn’t train in a cage before his fight wiht GG. he is the one that got caught with a head kick and was out before he hit the mat. CC had his opportunity and blew it, end of story. it had nothing to do with Dana.[/quote]

Y do u people even care about Randy vs. Cro Cop? I was a huge fan of Mirko’s I followed his career ever since his first PRIDE fight but I never once thought that he had the skills to compete with Randy. The fight missed out on that we should all be furious about is not getting to see Nogueira vs. Couture. Nogueira is out of cro cops league. I know they fought a close fight but I am talking about from a legacy point of view. Nogueira will be remembered as one of the very GREATES Heavyweight MMA fighters of all time. Cro cop will remembered for having a torpedo-like left Kick and a good left Cross PERIOD! There is a huge difference between their legacies and its a shame we will probably never get to see Nogueira vs. Couture.

Maybe Randy and Dana should come to a compromise on a contract: Randy will agree to fight Nogueira and then regardless of the outcome, he will officially retire after that fight…he can announce it in the center of the Octagon. He could leave with dignity In return Dana voids the last fight on his contract and lets Randy go fight Fedor, or even better, cross promotes the fight with M-1, they can market it as an exhibition match as a farewell gift to Randy.

Oh Cro Cop, you could have been so many thing s to me…instead of just one, a disapointment.

crop cop is not done…watch he will come back and kick the shit out of people

Read on crocop’s website that he wrote to members of his nokaut site that he will come out with some announcment regarding his next fight on monday February 11.

GEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ…………………..CRO COP is not done you guys r crazy…..what about COUTURE loses 2 in row to CHUCK……..Retires, comes back as heavyweight beats Sylvia….then Gonzaga……………..Chuck loses to Rampage then Jardine……..wins against Silva next Shou-Gun……….dont ever count the big dogs out when there off there CHAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I not gonna shut the show for Cro Cop just yet. I also dont think that he is gonna come through the back door and steal the title any time soon either. But I agree with the above comment. When you got your back against the wall and you feel like you have got nothing to loose. Thats a dangerous person. In Cro Cop, thats a very dangerous person. He still has the ability to put someone to sleep. But he needs to have the will to WANT fight. Cuase when a fighter looses that, You might as well call it a day.

He should work hard on his take down defence. If he can sprawl like Liddell or someone, keep the fight standing, and keeps his mind set right, he could easily come back as a major HW force.
As much as I would like to see him drop down to LHW, with all these other fighters seemingly leaving, the HW’s need more men, or it’ll start to look how the MW’s used to look.

Cro Cop has no chance against Randy in the cage, in the ring is another story - you can’t jam someone up against a bottom rope and air.

Too bad, the fight itself would’ve made a lot of money.

randy sucks guys he has win over tim silvia and gabriel gonzaga both of those fighters lost to other opponents