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From M1MixFight.com:

“Numerous times have I read mister White’s statements on Internet concerning myself. In my opinion, allowing yourself to say those things is not a sign of a gentleman or a grown man at all! If he candidly wants to prove himself right then let my fight with Randy happen or let me face the reigning UFC champion Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira. In the future I wouldn’t want to hear those statements in my address ever again and I won’t tolerate that.

My last fight in Japan proved that I’m ready to fight anybody with any height advantage, skillset or experience. I have fought and still wish to fight the best athletes. The Randy fight is my goal number one right now, he’s a great fighter and this is a very unfortunate situation when too strict and one-sided UFC contracts don’t let this fight happen.

The whole world is eager to see me fight your champions, people don’t want to listen to your press-conferences. I’m signed with M-1 Global and this promotion is ready to organize such fights under our banner or in co-promoted events.”

(Thanks to MMAmania.com reader “Carlos” for the assist.)

February 8th, 2008    

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Comment by Joey
2008-02-08 16:52:01

Damn right. Dana needs to allow this. I’m not a Fedor nuthugger, more of a Randy fan actually. But Fedor has already proved himself time and time again. UFC contracts are too crappy, everyone knows that, he didnt go for it. I like how Fedor did this, very nice.

 
Comment by Gabriel
2008-02-08 16:53:59

Stay there, who cares about Fedor.

 
Comment by grembone
2008-02-08 16:54:15

“I MUST BREAK YOU, RANDY!”

Come on Dana, he is daring you to make it happen.

 
Comment by bnf
2008-02-08 16:57:21

I am the winner… Fedor/Randy in the UFC will never happen. Besides I’d rather see Randy fight Nog to see who the real UFC champion is. Nog impressed the hell out of me agaisn’t big goofy Tim. After Randy loses to Nog the Fedor fight won’t matter.

 
Comment by Gabriel
2008-02-08 16:57:50

Seems Dana is the Bad guy of the picture. Thanks to Dana MMA is growing, fighters are getting more money, tv deals, books, clothing companies, etc. Even there’re more new MMA orgs growing and Randy is captain moron because thanks to the UFC he’s millionaire. You don’t shit where you eat.

 
Comment by Mike
2008-02-08 16:58:54

This wouldn’t be an issue Fedor if you’d have signed with Zuffa to begin with. Yes it was a binding contract, but these are necessary for the business model and to prevent fighters from picking and choosing their fights, which IMO is something you wanted a lot of control over.

 
Comment by Gabriel
2008-02-08 17:00:57

Nog is getting washed up. I didn’t like he’s two last fights. He can submit Silvia but he won sub Couture.

 
Comment by sal costello
2008-02-08 17:01:01

BE CAREFUL FEDOR,
you could be the next
UFC Lawsuit Of The Day!

——-

Dear Fedor,

All Dana cares about is money.

Dana has disrespected dozens of it’s own fighters and even sued legendary Randy Couture. He certainly doesn’t care what you have to say - - unless you are willing to be his whore - and give him all your blood, sweat and years of cash generating talent.

Unionize the UFC!

 
Comment by Andy
2008-02-08 17:02:25

[quote post=”4869″]The Randy fight is my goal number one right now, [/quote]

Amen. Color me stupid, but this give me hope that Fedor v. Randy can actually happen. I sure hope Randy has great lawyers.

 
Comment by dia mette
2008-02-08 17:03:42

If Dana keeps making dumb ass comments like Fedor is a farce, dont be suprised if Fedor sues Dana for defamation of chrachter, like fedor said hes not ganna tolerate his antics any longer.

Every one has an opinion about Fedor wether you love him or hate but the facts are clear and cant be uncontested that he is one of the very best MMA fighters in the world and a respectable and honorable champion.

 
Comment by LogJammin
2008-02-08 17:06:16

Dana did act like a teenager after he lost out on Fedor, which I was sorry to see. It only showed me that he was pissed off for losing out on him. What does it hurt when you have 2 organizations face off? Ultimately this is all for the fans, this is what we want to see. Dana is losing favor with me rapidly, especially if he lets Arlovski go. And what’s up with paying Lesnar getting paid $200k in his first fight???

 
Comment by mayberry
2008-02-08 17:06:45

LOL…….F@^* Fedor, I not sure what’s funnier
this statement or his last 5 opponent’s

Is this for real! Dana White would never ok a fight under another Banner or Co-Promote an event with any org. Come on now!

 
Comment by Gabriel
2008-02-08 17:07:31

Fedor to Dana..

“In the future I wouldn’t want to hear those statements in my address ever again and I won’t tolerate that.”

Wow… I’m sure Dana White is shaking under his bed!!!! What are you gona do Fedor? Please Fedor, shut up and do not talk again.

 
Comment by DJ Pullout
2008-02-08 17:08:59

Wow. You cant just turn your back on the Greatest fight of all time. What kind of MMA fan does that make you?

Once in a while you gotta man up and do what is good for the the sport, what is good for the fighters, what is good for the fans, and what is good for the world… even if it means making a bad business decision.

Its all about the competition. If there wasn’t any good competition the sport would have died forever ago.

Sometimes people forget the original reason why they originally got involved with this sport. Whether it was karate classes when you were 8 years or just taking a wrestling class in high school.

Bottom line is this fight will happen. Fans will make it happen. The fighters will make it happen. and the sport will make it happen. And it will.

Dont turn your back on us Dana. You’re a man. The sport needs it. I know you dont wanna back down…..

But please dont turn your back on us.

-The biggest MMA fan from your home town Southie!

 
Comment by kitsunex
2008-02-08 17:12:54

[quote comment=”300672″]This wouldn’t be an issue Fedor if you’d have signed with Zuffa to begin with. Yes it was a binding contract, but these are necessary for the business model and to prevent fighters from picking and choosing their fights, which IMO is something you wanted a lot of control over.[/quote]

of course. fedor would rather fight people he can easily beat instead of the top talent.

 
Comment by A Lynch
2008-02-08 17:13:21

I’ve got to believe that if the UFC was for sale it would make sense to have the Fedor Randy fight scheduled. They would be able to increase their asking price on the merit of that event alone.

 
Comment by muto
2008-02-08 17:13:23

[quote comment=”300676″]

Dear Fedor,

All Dana cares about is money.[/quote]

Tell Bill Gates to lower his prices.
How about Nike? Tell them to sell shoes at $40!

All Dana cares about his money? No shit!

Tell Fedor to take a hike. It is over!

 
Comment by Gabriel
2008-02-08 17:13:44

[quote comment=”300681″]If Dana keeps making dumb ass comments like Fedor is a farce, dont be suprised if Fedor sues Dana for defamation of chrachter, like fedor said hes not ganna tolerate his antics any longer.
[/quote]

Dude, this is the fight business. they dealing with fighters everyday and Dana is a promoter…. What do you not understand!!! This is not Happy day.

[quote comment=”300681″]
Every one has an opinion about Fedor wether you love him or hate but the facts are clear and cant be uncontested that he is one of the very best MMA fighters in the world and a respectable and honorable champion.[/quote]

Yeah… sure…. Shogun too. I have no respect for Fedor until I see him fighting 3 UFC fighters.

 
Comment by utaptout
2008-02-08 17:13:51

Fedor has already destroyed Nog twice. I’m sorry, I like and respect Randy but he is overrated. 15-8 is hardly the record of a supreme fighter. Nog and Sylvia both have way better records than him. I hate Sylvia and I wont make excuses for him, but I think he was hurt during his fight with Couture. I don’t think Randy could put Fedor on his back and he sure as hell wont outbox him. This whole situation is ridiculous. I want to see it too but Randy and Fedor is NOT the biggest fight of all time. Its just the only huge matchup thats left in the HW division.

On a side note, will someone please convince CroCop to drop to 205 and fight Chuck. Please?

 
Comment by matthew
2008-02-08 17:14:55

Fedor vs randy this fight we all want to se! Dana let Randy go so they can finally fight!

 
Comment by DoctorSamson
2008-02-08 17:15:12

Fedor and M1 want the fight so badly and are saying these things because it promotes M1. Making the fight happen makes no sense for the UFC. They may gain a large payday for that one fight, but it will pale in comparison to how much they would lose in the future to M1 just from the exposure M1 would receive, regardless if Fedor won or lost. It seems to me, and you can disagree if you want, and you’re stupid if you do, that Fedor thought he was worth more than he is, and Dana saw that. It makes me laugh to think that the two reasons Randy left are completely contradictory to each other. “You didn’t sign Fedor.” “Other fighters get paid more than me.” When in order to sign Fedor, Dana would have had to up his pay to much more than Randy’s, or anyone in the organization for that matter. I think Dana made the right decision in not signing him. You ask MOST of the fighters, really in any organization, and they will tell you UFC is the best. They have the best fighters AND the the best deals for fighters. Urijah Faber said he wished the UFC had a featherweight division. And he has a belt in WEC.

So, to recap. Fedor is an overrated fight dodger who fights crappy fighters, Randy is a big cry baby who no one understands because WE ALL know that Fedor is overrated, why can’t he realize it? and Dana is a smart business man who says what he thinks and is, for the most part, a good decision maker.

Ok. I’m done.

Bring on the haters.

 
Comment by Northern Lights
2008-02-08 17:16:37

This is a business as much as a sport. Does the NFL allows its players to go play for whatever team he wants to when he wants to? If the best fighters are in one place and you want to fight the best go to that place. Leave that joke of a promotion you are with or shut up.

As for Dana he should just ignore Fedor. Damn guy is just rotting where he is. Let him stay there and everyone will forget how good he was in pride. If he continues to fight jokes he will become one.

 
Comment by EdenMachine
2008-02-08 17:18:17

Boy, Fedor is as dumb as he looks apparently.

 
Comment by DoctorSamson
2008-02-08 17:21:32

[quote comment=”300702″]
On a side note, will someone please convince CroCop to drop to 205 and fight Chuck. Please?[/quote]

Have you seen Cro Cop? There’s no way he could get down to 205 unless he was hiding a kid in those little bike shorts.

 
Comment by wagnerav
2008-02-08 17:22:22

I don’t see how anyone can possibly blame Dana for not wanting to do cross-promos with inferior leagues, thereby giving them legitimacy. That’s a terrible business decision.

Dana did try to throw tons of money at Fedor to get him to sign with the UFC, so again, you can’t blame Dana for not trying (he also offered him an instant title shot). If anything, Dana tried so hard (with so much money), that it insulted some of his currently signed fighters (Couture, Arlovski and now Ortiz–big surprise) who are now leaving because of it.

The only way you can fault Dana, IMO, is with the whole “binding contracts” thing, where Fedor would have to give up fighting in Russian Sambo tournys if he wanted to sign with the UFC. if you want to fault Dana for that, then fine. but what else is the guy supposed to do?

Is it really 100 percent Dana’s fault? Does Fedor and his management not deserve at least part of the blame for wanting the moon on a silver platter? I understand that Fedor is the world’s best MMA fighter, but at the end of the day, the UFC has a business to run, and they already risked pissing off their existing talent pool by offering Fedor the moon. The moon plus a b.j. wouldn’t have really been the best business decision, but that’s what Fedor and his managers were asking for.

 
Comment by Gabriel
2008-02-08 17:22:57

[quote comment=”300704″]Fedor and M1 want the fight so badly and are saying these things because it promotes M1. Making the fight happen makes no sense for the UFC. They may gain a large payday for that one fight, but it will pale in comparison to how much they would lose in the future to M1 just from the exposure M1 would receive, regardless if Fedor won or lost. It seems to me, and you can disagree if you want, and you’re stupid if you do, that Fedor thought he was worth more than he is, and Dana saw that. It makes me laugh to think that the two reasons Randy left are completely contradictory to each other. “You didn’t sign Fedor.” “Other fighters get paid more than me.” When in order to sign Fedor, Dana would have had to up his pay to much more than Randy’s, or anyone in the organization for that matter. I think Dana made the right decision in not signing him. You ask MOST of the fighters, really in any organization, and they will tell you UFC is the best. They have the best fighters AND the the best deals for fighters. Urijah Faber said he wished the UFC had a featherweight division. And he has a belt in WEC.

So, to recap. Fedor is an overrated fight dodger who fights crappy fighters, Randy is a big cry baby who no one understands because WE ALL know that Fedor is overrated, why can’t he realize it? and Dana is a smart business man who says what he thinks and is, for the most part, a good decision maker.

Ok. I’m done.

Bring on the haters.[/quote]

Buddy….right F@#$% ON. I’m agree with U 200%. I’m in the MMA world and EVERYbody Wants to be there. Pride figters, elite xc fighters, Cage rage

 
Comment by BrendanEff
2008-02-08 17:23:51

If Fedor really wanted to face UFC fighters, he should have signed with the UFC. He chose to sign with a rival organization, and complains about how the UFC isn’t being fair to his, Randy’s, or the world’s wishes. Seems to me Fedor could have solved all of this by signing with the UFC, where everyone he wants to fight is employed.

 
Comment by Gabriel
2008-02-08 17:27:08

Fedor is shitting his pants. He knows he will loose in the UFC.

Comment by byron
2008-07-20 02:17:23

gabriel,you definitely don’t know shit about the mma.fedor has destroyed nog,and tim sylvia in the 36 seconds.both have been ufc hw champs.fedor can and will destroy any hw in the ufc.i’ve been watching the ufc since it’s conception.they bought pride because the ufc was inferior to pride.hell,dan henderson fought rampage for the ufc belt and they were both ex-pride fighters.so,take your foot and dana white’s dick out of your mouth.you half-ass half-witted mma fans make me laugh.you have no idea what’s going.dana white books fights nobody wants to see.anyone of the top 4 affliction:banned fights would’ve been single main events in the ufc.dana white’s ego has gotten so big that he’s going to ruin mma just like don king did boxing.but,atleast don king booked fights that people wanted to see.

 
 
Comment by EdenMachine
2008-02-08 17:27:37

[quote comment=”300693″]Wow. You cant just turn your back on the Greatest fight of all time. What kind of MMA fan does that make you?

Once in a while you gotta man up and do what is good for the the sport, what is good for the fighters, what is good for the fans, and what is good for the world… even if it means making a bad business decision.

Its all about the competition. If there wasn’t any good competition the sport would have died forever ago.

Sometimes people forget the original reason why they originally got involved with this sport. Whether it was karate classes when you were 8 years or just taking a wrestling class in high school.

Bottom line is this fight will happen. Fans will make it happen. The fighters will make it happen. and the sport will make it happen. And it will.

Dont turn your back on us Dana. You’re a man. The sport needs it. I know you dont wanna back down…..

But please dont turn your back on us.

-The biggest MMA fan from your home town Southie![/quote]
I think communist Russia tried this once… history lesson… utopian dreams look good on paper but they always fail in practice. Sorry dude - come back to the real world. We’ll all be waiting for you.

 
Comment by Andy
2008-02-08 17:28:51

[quote post=”4869″]The whole world is eager to see me fight your champions, people don’t want to listen to your press-conferences.[/quote]

This hints of desperation on Fedor’s part. Fedor knows he is only hurting his status as the best heavyweight in the world while fighting weak opponents. He had his chance to sign with the UFC, and for whatever reasons, he didn’t. Now he says he wants to fight the UFC’s best??? Can’t have your cake and eat it too Fedor. I have tons of respect for Fedor, but he is as much to blame for this fight not happening as Dana is.

 
Comment by utaptout
2008-02-08 17:28:55

Fedor is not over-rated. He’s destroyed Cro-cop, Nog, Mark Coleman, Kevin Randleman, Semmy Shilt, Heath Herring, Gary Goodridge, the list goes on and on. He was undefeated in Pride in 15 fights. He’s never lost. Can you understand this? He’d kill Randy, or Lesnar or anyone else he fought. Sorry Randy, but I’m not on the Captain America bandwagon.

 
Comment by DoctorSamson
2008-02-08 17:29:38

[quote comment=”300719″]Dana did try to throw tons of money at Fedor to get him to sign with the UFC, so again, you can’t blame Dana for not trying (he also offered him an instant title shot). If anything, Dana tried so hard (with so much money), that it insulted some of his currently signed fighters (Couture, Arlovski and now Ortiz–big surprise) who are now leaving because of it.quote]

Man no one cares about ortiz or arlovski, they are boring and not very good. If you do care about them, then try watching Cheick Kongo or even Brock Lesnar, they are much more exciting and much more watchable than those two. And if you are just gay for boring fighters, watch Lyoto Machida, he’s boring as hell but at least he wins all the time.

 
Comment by DoctorSamson
2008-02-08 17:31:00

P.S. Wagnerav, those comments were not meant for you, you had a great comment, the “you” I used was a generic one. Sorry if there was confusion.

 
Comment by sal costello
2008-02-08 17:31:22

A lot of UFC fans are unaware of the UFC’s bad business practices.

Fedor is ranked #1 in most Heavyweight rankings:
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/topten.asp?articleid=16&zoneid=15

If Dana can’t get a fighter to sign for peanuts, he slams them. Dana is the Don King of MMA.

 
Comment by Farid
2008-02-08 17:33:55

Fedor…shut up!

 
Comment by Gabriel
2008-02-08 17:34:27

[quote comment=”300731″]Fedor is not over-rated. He’s destroyed Cro-cop, Nog, Mark Coleman, Kevin Randleman, Semmy Shilt, Heath Herring, Gary Goodridge, the list goes on and on. He was undefeated in Pride in 15 fights.

He’s never lost. Can you understand this? He’d kill Randy, or Lesnar or anyone else he fought. Sorry Randy, but I’m not on the Captain America bandwagon.[/quote]
All whashed up fighters. Hearring!!! Cro cop!!! Coleman!!!! Oh please man….please stop there. and Nog is pathetic. He was getting destroy by T. Silvia. Couture won’t get sub so easy as Tim.

Fedor is a FARSE.

 
Comment by kitsunex
2008-02-08 17:35:02

[quote comment=”300731″]Fedor is not over-rated. He’s destroyed Cro-cop, Nog, Mark Coleman, Kevin Randleman, Semmy Shilt, Heath Herring, Gary Goodridge, the list goes on and on. He was undefeated in Pride in 15 fights.

He’s never lost. Can you understand this? He’d kill Randy, or Lesnar or anyone else he fought. Sorry Randy, but I’m not on the Captain America bandwagon.[/quote]

LOL Heath Herring? you think that makes him a better heavyweight? who hasn’t beat Herring lately? He’s beaten people that are getting killed in the UFC woohoo. who has he fought lately? a guy in his first pro fight and a middleweight. fedor has his record because he picks and chooses his opponents in order to keep his record in tact, not to prove that he is deserving of said record.

 
Comment by Spider Style
2008-02-08 17:37:47

[quote comment=”300670″]Seems Dana is the Bad guy of the picture. Thanks to Dana MMA is growing, fighters are getting more money, tv deals, books, clothing companies, etc. Even there’re more new MMA orgs growing and Randy is captain moron because thanks to the UFC he’s millionaire. You don’t shit where you eat.[/quote]

if fighters are getting more money it isn’t coming from the UFC. If you find the average payday for fighters excluding Lesnar, Mir, Sylvia and Nogueiras’ salaries, fighters on the last PPV made an average of $19,000. Compare that to any other sport other than say curling, lawnbowling, darts and horseshoes, and i’d have to say that they are pretty underpaid for what they do for a living. The “superstars” get a nice chunk of money but compared to boxing they get nothing.

 
Comment by Eric
2008-02-08 17:37:51

Yes Fedor wants the fight with UFC fighters, but what spurred this comment on was Dana acting like a 14 year old teenage girl after Fedor broke her….er, I mean his heart.

If Dana were capable of keeping his mouth shut and not call out everyone not hanging off of his teet then Fedor wouldn’t have to release statments like this too shut him up.

 
Comment by DirtyML
2008-02-08 17:41:38

[quote post=”4869″]All whashed up fighters. Hearring!!! Cro cop!!! Coleman!!!! Oh please man….please stop there. and Nog is pathetic. He was getting destroy by T. Silvia. Couture won’t get sub so easy as Tim.[/quote]

Herring was up and coming when Fedor fought him and nobody really knew who Fedor was at the time. Cro Cop was in his prime , so was Coleman.

Please watch MMA before 2006 before commenting again, thanks.

 
Comment by DoctorSamson
2008-02-08 17:41:59

I don’t think Fedor is a bad fighter. On the contrary I think he’s a great fighter. Just not worth as much as he thinks, and dodges fights to keep is mystiqued reputation as the best in the world. And as long as we’re comparing, let’s compare Pride fighters who have come to the UFC. With the exception of Rampage (You can’t count Nog, who beat a washed up and seriously low self-esteemed Tim Silvia), Pride Fighters don’t have what UFC ones do.

On a side note I love Tim Silvia, and I can’t really see how anyone can’t. I mean the guy puts on no facade at all. I do wish though that he fought like he used to. I don’t see how he could ever knock anyone out with the way he throws punches now.

 
Comment by roy
2008-02-08 17:43:49

[quote comment=”300700″][quote comment=”300681″]If Dana keeps making dumb ass comments like Fedor is a farce, dont be suprised if Fedor sues Dana for defamation of chrachter, like fedor said hes not ganna tolerate his antics any longer.
[/quote]

Dude, this is the fight business. they dealing with fighters everyday and Dana is a promoter…. What do you not understand!!! This is not Happy day.

[quote comment=”300681″]
Every one has an opinion about Fedor wether you love him or hate but the facts are clear and cant be uncontested that he is one of the very best MMA fighters in the world and a respectable and honorable champion.[/quote]

Yeah… sure…. Shogun too. I have no respect for Fedor until I see him fighting 3 UFC fighters.[/quote]

what 3 ufc fighters do you want him to fight you act like the best heavy weights are still with the ufc fedor won’t have to fight in the ufc soon because all the best h.w.’s are not there. fedor barnett randy aa and soon sylvia

 
Comment by kazanski
2008-02-08 17:43:56

Open letter to Fedor: You made the mistake of signing with M1 knowing the fight with Randy woudnt happen. Your reputation is diminishing without fighting the top talent and at this point people are getting tired of Randy not being man enough to honor his commitments. The interest in this fight is dwindling as nobody wants to see 07’s top fighters fight in 09. they want to see the current top fighters fight. It appears that when this fight does happen it will not live up to the hype. Nobody wants to see randy ride his rascal scooter into the ring to get beat up, the interest just isnt there. At this point the only person who cares about this fight is Randy.

 
Comment by The Gaijin
2008-02-08 17:45:08

[quote comment=”300700″]

Yeah… sure…. Shogun too. I have no respect for Fedor until I see him fighting 3 UFC fighters.[/quote]

1. Heath Herring
2. Mirko Cro Cop
3. Current HW (interim) champ - Antonio Nogueria x2

What exactly does he need to prove to you further?

 
Comment by DoctorSamson
2008-02-08 17:46:04

[quote comment=”300760″]Open letter to Fedor: You made the mistake of signing with M1 knowing the fight with Randy woudnt happen. Your reputation is diminishing without fighting the top talent and at this point people are getting tired of Randy not being man enough to honor his commitments. The interest in this fight is dwindling as nobody wants to see 07’s top fighters fight in 09. they want to see the current top fighters fight. It appears that when this fight does happen it will not live up to the hype. Nobody wants to see randy ride his rascal scooter into the ring to get beat up, the interest just isnt there. At this point the only person who cares about this fight is Randy.[/quote]

Hilarious. I don’t believe for a second that Fedor wants this fight. He knows it won’t happen so he can say anything he wants.

 
Comment by wagnerav
2008-02-08 17:51:31

DoctorSamson, no confusion, but thanks. I agree with your comments, although I don’t know if I think Fedor is overrated necessarily. Still, it’s a shame he didn’t sign with the UFC.

I think a lot of MMA fans forget that when PRIDE was crumbling, and the UFC was signing over most of the PRIDE guys, everyone was praising Dana for FINALLY bringing together all of the best talent. Some of these same folks are blasting Dana now. It doesn’t make sense to me.

I’m not saying we should all love Dana, but the UFC is doing what it can to retain the best fighters in the world. Their practices might not be the best, but where would we be without it? I mean, don’t we want to have the best fighters all under one roof? I know I do. It makes sense that a few will slip through the cracks.

 
Comment by Eric
2008-02-08 17:51:38

[quote comment=”300760″]At this point the only person who cares about this fight is Randy.[/quote]
Speak for yourself. I, as well as every friend I watch the PPV’s with still want to see that fight very much.

And at this rate most of the top heavyweights will not be in the UFC by the end of the year. Fedor is only 31, AA is in his 20’s Big Tim is still plenty young, and so is Big Nog. In the next 4 years all of those guys could realistically end up fighting each other outside of the UFC all while the UFC has nothing but Lesnar and the Cheik Kongo’s of the world.

 
Comment by roy
2008-02-08 17:55:55

please someone name a h.w. with the ufc that stands a chance against him since most of you think the ufc H.W

 
Comment by Steven
2008-02-08 17:58:32

[quote post=”4869″]On a side note I love Tim Silvia, and I can’t really see how anyone can’t. I mean the guy puts on no facade at all. I do wish though that he fought like he used to. I don’t see how he could ever knock anyone out with the way he throws punches now[/quote]

The fight with Nog was hope that maybe Tim will go back to fighting like he used to. I was so surprised on Saturday to see an entertaining fight from him and I am actually kinda excited to see his next fight. Plus if you get the chance to watch his post fight interview its absolutely hilarious. I think Tim gets a really hard rap cause he is just himself and doesnt try to be anyone else which I think is pretty comendable.

 
Comment by utaptout
2008-02-08 17:58:45

[quote comment=”300751″][quote comment=”300731″]Fedor is not over-rated. He’s destroyed Cro-cop, Nog, Mark Coleman, Kevin Randleman, Semmy Shilt, Heath Herring, Gary Goodridge, the list goes on and on. He was undefeated in Pride in 15 fights.

He’s never lost. Can you understand this? He’d kill Randy, or Lesnar or anyone else he fought. Sorry Randy, but I’m not on the Captain America bandwagon.[/quote]

LOL Heath Herring? you think that makes him a better heavyweight? who hasn’t beat Herring lately? He’s beaten people that are getting killed in the UFC woohoo. who has he fought lately? a guy in his first pro fight and a middleweight. fedor has his record because he picks and chooses his opponents in order to keep his record in tact,

Ill go out on a limb and say that Herring would beat Couture…Randy wouldnt be able to muscle him around and Heath is a bull.

 
Comment by utaptout
2008-02-08 18:00:00

15-8 folks…thats not even 66.6% win percentage. WTF??? Randy is overrated.

 
Comment by ragnarr
2008-02-08 18:00:18

Im with Fedor and Randy on this one. The UFC has ridiculous contracts that basically allows them to own fighters. Randy had a contract that was for 4 fights, or 18 months (whicever comes first). He has every intention of honoring that contract, (the 18 month part). The fact that the UFC put clauses in contracts that say if a fighter becomes champion then their contract can be extended indefinitely is not reasonable. To also say that if a fighter retires with fights left on their contract that they may never fight anywhere else is also ridiculous. You cannot own a person for life, contracts have to be finite somehow. Infact the only reason why the UFC still recognizes Randy as the champ is so they can keep him from fighting in M1. Randy left the heavyweight belt, which he has the right to do, so his contract will expire. Randy will win this if it goes to court.

 
Comment by it_dont_stop.
2008-02-08 18:02:01

How about have this fight as a glorified exhibition match. The UFC can pawn this off as a joke, but really giving the mma fans a gift.

 
Comment by utaptout
2008-02-08 18:02:15

[quote comment=”300718″][quote comment=”300702″]
On a side note, will someone please convince CroCop to drop to 205 and fight Chuck. Please?[/quote]

Have you seen Cro Cop? There’s no way he could get down to 205 unless he was hiding a kid in those little bike shorts.[/quote]

He fights around 225. He could easily lose 10 pounds and cut 10 for a fight…randy used to.

 
Comment by Nika
2008-02-08 18:03:47

Fedor#1 and Dana knows Fedor is a number #1 guy!

 
Comment by Al
2008-02-08 18:05:30

Dana White has served the UFC well, but if the Fertita Brothers, and the UFC really care about the sport of MMA, and the UFC as a business then they need to thank Dana White for his services, and sever ties with this childish man boy (Dana White).

 
Comment by DonnyG
2008-02-08 18:06:32

I still love that Randy complained that the UFC was not able to sign Fedor because that was “the only fight that made sense”. What did Randy just assume that Fedor would be in the UFC within 1 year of him signing his 4 count ‘em 4 fight contract? Who did he think he would fight. A-hole!

It’s also great that Randy complained that the UFC was not able to sign Fedor and complained that they offered him too much money.

Which is it Randy? Tried too hard or not hard enough? I know, it’s both.

Randy, step up and fight Nog. It’s the only fight that makes sense. It’s the only fight that makes sense. It’s the only fight that makes sense. It’s the only fight that makes sense.

Unless you’re not the man we thought you were.

Do it!

Now!

 
Comment by Irish
2008-02-08 18:09:10

Ah hello dana………..its the biggest heavyweight fights ever calling………are you gona make them happen cause shit load of people want them to happen, GET YOU HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS

 
Comment by kitsunex
2008-02-08 18:14:58

[quote comment=”300782″]Im with Fedor and Randy on this one. The UFC has ridiculous contracts that basically allows them to own fighters. Randy had a contract that was for 4 fights, or 18 months (whicever comes first). He has every intention of honoring that contract, (the 18 month part). The fact that the UFC put clauses in contracts that say if a fighter becomes champion then their contract can be extended indefinitely is not reasonable. To also say that if a fighter retires with fights left on their contract that they may never fight anywhere else is also ridiculous. You cannot own a person for life, contracts have to be finite somehow. Infact the only reason why the UFC still recognizes Randy as the champ is so they can keep him from fighting in M1. Randy left the heavyweight belt, which he has the right to do, so his contract will expire. Randy will win this if it goes to court.[/quote]

are you a lawyer? have you seen a UFC contract? do you actually have any clue what you are talking about?

from a business stand point, they are doing the right thing. lets say they let fedor have an open contract. he wins the heavyweight title and and has a fight lined up in 6 months. 3 months later he gets injured badly, possibly permanently. then not only is the UFC hurting because they have to cancel a main event, but they are also out all the money they spent on buiding the fighter up, giving the fighter publicity and advertising the card. as an owner they are going to want to protect their investment, and that is what the fighters are, an investment.

work in the real world. if you are working in a professional job (not taco bell) those sorts of things are common. at my job i’m not allowed to work in the same field for someone else.

 
Comment by ToeLock
2008-02-08 18:15:40

[quote comment=”300780″]15-8 folks…thats not even 66.6% win percentage. WTF??? Randy is overrated.[/quote]
I agree to an extent… he is deffo over-rated from a record perspective but he is the master Underdog, and that’s why we all…you lot included, loved captain America..plus regardless of his behaviour of late, he was considered the greatest Ambassador for MMA… Does one dispute with Dana change all that??? I hope no or else MMA has some seriously fickle fans… I still like Randy… I would just love for him to say, Fedor aint shit, fighting in M1 proves that…So i will take on a real challenger in NOG!!! Get NOG Vs Randy!! I garauntee the more that is talked about the more likely it will be to happen…

 
Comment by Dan
2008-02-08 18:16:22

Some of your guys are completely insane. People care about the Fedor/Randy fight a hell of a lot more than Randy/Nog. Nog is an excellent fighter but Fedor/Randy has been brewing for far too long for anything else to surpass it. Damn Right is right!!! Fedor threw down the gauntlet. I like it!

 
Comment by skatanicus
2008-02-08 18:16:28

Randy needs to grow some balls and fight Nogueira, especially now that Nog finished the man that Couture decisioned for his title. Beating Gabriel Gonzaga does not make you #2 in the world, Randy. Nog has that position, and I think it’s disrespectful that Randy thinks he should get to fight the #1 only. He’s wasting all this time sitting on his ass, why not stay in shape waiting for Fedor by beating Nogueira and proving you actually deserve the Fedor fight. I know everyone’s on been on the Randwagon for a while now, but I think he’s a coward and I don’t think he deserves the Fedor fight until he can beat Nogueira, or at least Josh Barnett. Randy’s not top three.

 
Comment by Scooby
2008-02-08 18:18:16

Fedor’s exasperated because it’s finally sunk in that there’s no one for him to fight except cans.

He’s realized that his legacy will be tarnished.

And, most importantly, he’s realized that the civil liability that Randy will assume to fight him is greater than whatever he stands to make from the fight, hence it won’t happen.

This kind of desperate comment sounds like the kind of reverse psychology that a third grader would use. Pathetic.

 
Comment by Aaron_W
2008-02-08 18:18:28

[quote comment=”300756″][quote post=”4869″]All whashed up fighters. Hearring!!! Cro cop!!! Coleman!!!! Oh please man….please stop there. and Nog is pathetic. He was getting destroy by T. Silvia. Couture won’t get sub so easy as Tim.[/quote]

Herring was up and coming when Fedor fought him and nobody really knew who Fedor was at the time. Cro Cop was in his prime , so was Coleman.

Please watch MMA before 2006 before commenting again, thanks.[/quote]
Thank you! I swear to god the UFC fanboys kill me. Heath Hearing was actually favored over Fedor when they fought the first time by Bas Rutten and Quadros. He was pretty kick ass back then. Cro Cop was dominating too .

 
Comment by Scooby
2008-02-08 18:21:16

Incidentally, Fedor shouldn’t cite any of his recent fights as evidence of his character. It doesn’t help his case.

 
Comment by Insain
2008-02-08 18:21:32

Its a shame theres so a lot of hate towards Fedor on here, IMO until anyone beats Fedor, he will remain number 1, if that means a fighter from the ufc has to chase him in order to get a fight - so be it, Fedor definately aint no ones bitch, hes beat 2 r 3 ufc champions and has that crazy winning streak.

 
Comment by DoctorSamson
2008-02-08 18:24:11

utaptout, I need to get you the video showing cro cops weight cutting stuff. It’s mad crazy. I forget what weight he walks around at, though I think Mania posted it at some point. I’m of course not saying he couldn’t ever cut down to 205. I was really just cutting my little biking shorts joke.

 
Comment by DoctorSamson
2008-02-08 18:25:11

Actually, I did in fact say there was no way he could cut down to 205. My bad. I was blinded by my need for cheesy comedy.

 
Comment by utaptout
2008-02-08 18:29:10

[quote comment=”300831″]utaptout, I need to get you the video showing cro cops weight cutting stuff. It’s mad crazy. I forget what weight he walks around at, though I think Mania posted it at some point. I’m of course not saying he couldn’t ever cut down to 205. I was really just cutting my little biking shorts joke.[/quote]

Why did Cro-Cop cut anything? He’s never fought below HW.

 
Comment by dcsoldier187
2008-02-08 18:30:38

i think dana has to work this bullshit out with randy and set up a fight with fedor or there will be a fake ufc heavyweight champion in my eyes

 
Comment by ghdhdf
2008-02-08 18:31:57

[quote comment=”300651″]Damn right. Dana needs to allow this. I’m not a Fedor nuthugger, more of a Randy fan actually. But Fedor has already proved himself time and time again. UFC contracts are too crappy, everyone knows that, he didnt go for it. I like how Fedor did this, very nice.[/quote]
not to mention he destroyed antonio for the pride hw belt already…this would be an awesome fight no doubt a classic

 
Comment by Ramon
2008-02-08 18:36:41

The UFC needs to pay their fighters more. AND be less uptight about letting their fighters CROSS-PROMOTE!

Dana White seems to be more of an A-Hole as these last couple of months have past by…

 
Comment by rhys
2008-02-08 18:40:07

[quote comment=”300690″]Fedor to Dana..

“In the future I wouldn’t want to hear those statements in my address ever again and I won’t tolerate that.”

Wow… I’m sure Dana White is shaking under his bed!!!! What are you gona do Fedor? Please Fedor, shut up and do not talk again.[/quote]

Get stuffed you stupid wanky keyboard warrior. I dare you to go and say that too his face if you ever see him (in russian of course) I DARE YOU

 
Comment by rhys
2008-02-08 18:42:07

[quote comment=”300780″]15-8 folks…thats not even 66.6% win percentage. WTF??? Randy is overrated.[/quote]

Thats because he only ever fought THE BEST OF THE BEST, and he started out as a pure wrestler in his early days, so he was getting submitted and whatnot.