“I don’t see how I could not get one. I am seven and zero in the UFC right now and 14 straight wins against tough opponents. Who else has done that and not been given a title shot? I think I’ve earned it.”
– Top welterweight contender Jon Fitch tells ADCC News that he deserves the next chance at the 170-pound crown if he can get past Chris Wilson at UFC 82: “Pride of a Champion” on March 1 at the Nationwide Arena in Columbus, Ohio. Of course, Karo Parisyan is confident that he’s the next in line if he can topple Thiago Alves at UFC Fight Night 13 on April 2 from the Broomfield Event Center in Broomfield, Colo. Without question there’s a ton on the line for Fitch and Parisyan in their next bouts. It should be real interesting to see how this all unfolds … especially if Wilson and Alves pull off the upsets.
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I have a feeling he will be awarded a title shot before Karo does. Fitch vs. GSP in a 5 round title match is the biggest possible match at this point in time in the uFC’s welter weight division…I expect that fight to go down in August or September.
According to mmaweekly.com so far the rumored fight card for UFC 84 is:
UFC 84: MAY 24, 2008 IN LAS VEGAS
venue: MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada
-B.J. Penn (#7 Lightweight in the World)* vs. Sean Sherk
-Lyoto Machida (#5 Light Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Tito Ortiz
-Rashad Evans vs. Thiago Silva
-Rousimar Palhares vs. Ivan Salaverry
-Goran Reljic vs. Wilson Gouveia
-Wanderlei Silva (#8 Light Heavyweight in the World)* vs. TBA (i hear rumors that it will be Jardine
I really like Jon, I think he has deserved a title shot for awhile now and just has been placed on the side lines to make room for the more marketable fighters in the devision. Matt Serra, Matt Hughes, GSP, KOS, Sanchez. Even if Fitch has or could defeat everyone I just metioned the UFC doesnt not care about that (entirely).
[quote comment=”298768″]I have a feeling he will be awarded a title shot before Karo does. Fitch vs. GSP in a 5 round title match is the biggest possible match at this point in time in the uFC’s welter weight division…I expect that fight to go down in August or September.[/quote]
that would be a cool fight - but i dont think casual fans still know who fitch is that well - give him matt hughes as a tune up and i think he’ll be the poster boy if he wins. either way, if karo and fitch win, one of them should fight hughes unless hughes has different plans i guess
Yeh… if Fitch had been on a TUF series he’d probably get one almost immediately…
I guess it will have to be Fitch Vs Karo to decide who gets the next shot…? What say thee
Karo, u aint running from this fight b*tch..
[quote comment=”298780″][quote comment=”298768″]I have a feeling he will be awarded a title shot before Karo does. Fitch vs. GSP in a 5 round title match is the biggest possible match at this point in time in the uFC’s welter weight division…I expect that fight to go down in August or September.[/quote]
that would be a cool fight - but i dont think casual fans still know who fitch is that well - give him matt hughes as a tune up and i think he’ll be the poster boy if he wins. either way, if karo and fitch win, one of them should fight hughes unless hughes has different plans i guess[/quote]
Insain: IF GSP wins, Hughes will be tied up fighting Serra. Fitch needs a title shot right away after his next fight.
ToeLock: I dont think they could have a #1 contender match between Karo and Fitch…if they have that, then who will fight for the title? If Karo vs. Fitch is to happen, it will happen in August and it will leave no contender for the winner of GSP/Serra which would mean that we wouldnt get to see another title defense in the welterweight division until next December! Do u still want to see Karo vs. Fitch now? I dont!
The stupid thing about this whole scenario is the fact that Karo Parysian turned down the fight with Fitch… Fitch will definitely be next in line for a title shot, so ultimately Karo’s “playing it safe” strategy may have REDUCED his chances of getting a shot by fighting Thiago Alves…
The UFC don’t want to award title shots to guys that duck strong opponents and earn safe decisions… Not that I am saying Alves is not strong, but he’s definitely the less dangerous of the two fighters.
It’s hard to argue with that. Fitch should get first crack at the GSP-Serra winner. If Karo beats whoever he fights next then he can have the next shot.
Karo is going to lose to Alves, so Fitch will definitely get the title shot next. However, I don’t believe Fitch is ready to beat GSP (if and when he gets by Serra), it will be similar to when GSP fought Hughes the first time. Talent wise he has the skills, I just don’t believe he will be able to handle the experience that GSP has from fighting the very best in the WW division for so many years.
[quote comment=”298790″][quote comment=”298780″][quote comment=”298768″]I have a feeling he will be awarded a title shot before Karo does. Fitch vs. GSP in a 5 round title match is the biggest possible match at this point in time in the uFC’s welter weight division…I expect that fight to go down in August or September.[/quote]
that would be a cool fight - but i dont think casual fans still know who fitch is that well - give him matt hughes as a tune up and i think he’ll be the poster boy if he wins. either way, if karo and fitch win, one of them should fight hughes unless hughes has different plans i guess[/quote]
Insain: IF GSP wins, Hughes will be tied up fighting Serra. Fitch needs a title shot right away after his next fight.
ToeLock: I dont think they could have a #1 contender match between Karo and Fitch…if they have that, then who will fight for the title? If Karo vs. Fitch is to happen, it will happen in August and it will leave no contender for the winner of GSP/Serra which would mean that we wouldnt get to see another title defense in the welterweight division until next December! Do u still want to see Karo vs. Fitch now? I dont![/quote]
IF GSP wins.
The only other fighter that is on a tear in that class is Karo, which isnt nearly as deep as Fitch’s tear is. Fitch vs. GSP/Serra (heh), Karo vs. Koschek
[quote comment=”298793″]The stupid thing about this whole scenario is the fact that Karo Parysian turned down the fight with Fitch… Fitch will definitely be next in line for a title shot, so ultimately Karo’s “playing it safe” strategy may have REDUCED his chances of getting a shot by fighting Thiago Alves…
The UFC don’t want to award title shots to guys that duck strong opponents and earn safe decisions… Not that I am saying Alves is not strong, but he’s definitely the less dangerous of the two fighters.[/quote]
I heard Karo was never offered the fight against Fitch. I think it was just in an interview where he said he’d prefer not to fight him and would rather a lesser opponent to preserve his title shot that he claims was promised to him by the UFC. I think Karo deserves a shot…especially if he beats Alves decisively…no decision win. He’s been around for a long time now and has fought the whos who of the WW division. He had a title shot a while back but had to withdraw due to injury. I don’t think you could go wrong with either Fitch or Karo against GSP next…since GSP is going to beat Serra. Both guys equally deserve a shot…it’s too bad they didn’t match these two up at UFC 83…that would have been a hell of a fight.
[quote comment=”298768″]I have a feeling he will be awarded a title shot before Karo does. Fitch vs. GSP in a 5 round title match is the biggest possible match at this point in time in the uFC’s welter weight division…I expect that fight to go down in August or September.[/quote]
Fitch…are you crazy….who has he fought to deserve a title shot,he should just be lucky hes getting fight night matches cause he is not a contender yet!
the only solution about who’s really need to get a titles shot about fitch or karo, is let them fight then winner gets the title shot (in my opinion)
[quote post=”4842″]Fitch…are you crazy….who has he fought to deserve a title shot,he should just be lucky hes getting fight night matches cause he is not a contender yet! [/quote]
What is your criteria for being a contender? 14 wins in a row isn’t enough (7 in ufc)? He has victories over Sanchez, Alves and Burkman. I would be curious to hear who you think is deserving of a title shot.
Fitch deserves to be next in line if he can get past Wilson. Karo ducking Fitch bothers me. The UFC shouldn’t reward Karo for being a pussy.
Andy: I stopped responding to that dudes posts a long time ago. There is no hope for him. His screename: OrtizBaby is proof of that. lol[quote comment=”298796″][quote comment=”298790″][quote comment=”298780″][quote comment=”298768″]I have a feeling he will be awarded a title shot before Karo does. Fitch vs. GSP in a 5 round title match is the biggest possible match at this point in time in the uFC’s welter weight division…I expect that fight to go down in August or September.[/quote]
that would be a cool fight - but i dont think casual fans still know who fitch is that well - give him matt hughes as a tune up and i think he’ll be the poster boy if he wins. either way, if karo and fitch win, one of them should fight hughes unless hughes has different plans i guess[/quote]
Insain: IF GSP wins, Hughes will be tied up fighting Serra. Fitch needs a title shot right away after his next fight.
ToeLock: I dont think they could have a #1 contender match between Karo and Fitch…if they have that, then who will fight for the title? If Karo vs. Fitch is to happen, it will happen in August and it will leave no contender for the winner of GSP/Serra which would mean that we wouldnt get to see another title defense in the welterweight division until next December! Do u still want to see Karo vs. Fitch now? I dont![/quote]
IF GSP wins.[/quote]
Insain: u r right about that. It is a big “If” but since he is th best welterweight in the world and the favorite in this match up, I will continue to speculate as if GSP were to win. I am a big Serra fan as well, so I am not hating….I just call it like I see it!
[quote comment=”298820″]the only solution about who’s really need to get a titles shot about fitch or karo, is let them fight then winner gets the title shot (in my opinion)[/quote]
[quote post=”4842″]ToeLock: I dont think they could have a #1 contender match between Karo and Fitch…if they have that, then who will fight for the title? If Karo vs. Fitch is to happen, it will happen in August and it will leave no contender for the winner of GSP/Serra which would mean that we wouldnt get to see another title defense in the welterweight division until next December! Do u still want to see Karo vs. Fitch now? I dont! [/quote]
Exactly John. If Karo and Fitch were to fight to see who is the #1 contender, the fight would have to be happenening at UFC 82 or 83. They would not have a WW #1 contender fight on an Ultimate Fight Night, which is the next card that Karo is fighting on. Karo should not be fighting Alvez. Fitch should not be fighting Wilson. They should obviously be fighting each other at UFC 82 or 83. But since they are not fighting each other then, the UFC will have to select one of them to be the #1 contender because they can’t put the division on hold AGAIN. GSP is fighting Serra in April. Fitch fights in March. And Karo’s UFN is in April. So that means that when Fitch and Karo would be ready to go, so would the WW champ GSP/Serra. So why have a #1 contender match just to have the champ sit on the sidelines? July/August would be the soonest I can imagine the WW belt being next defended. There is no way that between April and July that they would be able to have the #1 contender fight. All we can do now is keep our fingers crossed that Thiago Alvez beats Karo.
[quote comment=”298833″][quote comment=”298820″]the only solution about who’s really need to get a titles shot about fitch or karo, is let them fight then winner gets the title shot (in my opinion)[/quote]
[quote post=”4842″]ToeLock: I dont think they could have a #1 contender match between Karo and Fitch…if they have that, then who will fight for the title? If Karo vs. Fitch is to happen, it will happen in August and it will leave no contender for the winner of GSP/Serra which would mean that we wouldnt get to see another title defense in the welterweight division until next December! Do u still want to see Karo vs. Fitch now? I dont! [/quote]
Exactly John. If Karo and Fitch were to fight to see who is the #1 contender, the fight would have to be happenening at UFC 82 or 83. They would not have a WW #1 contender fight on an Ultimate Fight Night, which is the next card that Karo is fighting on. Karo should not be fighting Alvez. Fitch should not be fighting Wilson. They should obviously be fighting each other at UFC 82 or 83. But since they are not fighting each other then, the UFC will have to select one of them to be the #1 contender because they can’t put the division on hold AGAIN. GSP is fighting Serra in April. Fitch fights in March. And Karo’s UFN is in April. So that means that when Fitch and Karo would be ready to go, so would the WW champ GSP/Serra. So why have a #1 contender match just to have the champ sit on the sidelines? July/August would be the soonest I can imagine the WW belt being next defended. There is no way that between April and July that they would be able to have the #1 contender fight. All we can do now is keep our fingers crossed that Thiago Alvez beats Karo.[/quote]
EXACTLY!!
The UFC is going to have to pick one or the other. Didnt GSP already beat Karo? That leaves Fitch to be selected who IMO is the best welterweight out there not named GSP.
I hate how they are having Fitch fight Wilson. Who the hell is that guy anyway. It’s almost like they want some scrub to beat Fitch. That would Fuk up Fitch’s title shot.
Not everyone we have never heard of is a scrub. Not saying Fitch is going to loose because he is a mentally strong fighter who is really on top of his game right now but that doesnt mean wilson is a scrub.
How many of us ever heard of Boetsch? He didnt look like a scrub too me at all.
Wilson’s a good fighter, he’s on a 4-fight win steak across IFL, Bodog, and Sportfight.
[quote post=”4842″]All we can do now is keep our fingers crossed that Thiago Alvez beats Karo. [/quote]
Alves has a good shot in this fight. Alves has beaten Lytle, DeSouza and Marcus Davis (back in 2003). Alves can definitely pull off the upset.
[quote comment=”298851″]Not everyone we have never heard of is a scrub. Not saying Fitch is going to loose because he is a mentally strong fighter who is really on top of his game right now but that doesnt mean wilson is a scrub.
How many of us ever heard of Boetsch? He didnt look like a scrub too me at all.[/quote]
I agree John, just cause we haven’t hear of him doesn’t mean he isn’t good enough. It is just kind of odd out of all the welterweights that have UFC records he is the only one they could get to take the fight???
I think they could have done better to matched him up with someone who is an obvious challenge for him.
Karo refused to fight Fitch after Jon requested him. So Fitch was booked to fight Akihiro Gono, but Gono had to pull out due to injury. The UFC needed to find a WW replacement to fight Jon Fitch. And quite frankly, there are not very many WW’s out there that want to fight Jon Fitch. That’s the same problem he was having at the beginning of his UFC career, and is the reason he was fighting people we never heard of. No one ranked high wanted to fight Fitch because they knew what kind of threat he is. After Diego Sanchez lost to Kos, he wanted to prove himself, and he asked for the toughest opponent in the division. Hence, Fitch and Diego fought each other.
[quote post=”4842″]I think they could have done better to matched him up with someone who is an obvious challenge for him. [/quote]
Fitch was signed to fight Gono before Gono pulled out with a bad hand. Wilson is a short term replacement. All the other top WW already had signed or had just had a fight.
i agree totally. gsp has already beaten karo and fitch beat diego, who in turn beat karo as well.if karo beats thiago then he gets the winner of fitch/gsp. not meaning to discount serra, but i dont see him beating a focused and angry gsp a 2nd time.
Fitch vs. Karo should have happened but Karo didn’t like it so YES Fitch deserves a shot, but not only that, IMO he should get one before Karo just because of his I’ll fight anyone attitude compared to Karo’s “OMG Don’t ruin my chance at a title Joe Silva” attitude.
[quote comment=”298804″][quote comment=”298768″]I have a feeling he will be awarded a title shot before Karo does. Fitch vs. GSP in a 5 round title match is the biggest possible match at this point in time in the uFC’s welter weight division…I expect that fight to go down in August or September.[/quote]
Fitch…are you crazy….who has he fought to deserve a title shot,he should just be lucky hes getting fight night matches cause he is not a contender yet![/quote]
if fitch isnt a number 1 contender who is that bitch karo,,,that bitch doesnt deserve anything
Who has this guy fought that he thinks he deserves a title shot bunch of no namers other than deigo. He has not fought anyone in the top 5 and this guy thinks he deserves a title shot F that. I think he really needs to fight someone that is top tier fighter. He has won seven in a row grant it that is impressive, I guess anyone can put together streak like that if they are fighting bunch of no namers. I would like to see Karo fight GSP before this clown. Either way GSP will walk trought both the fighters. But I think Karo will be better fight. Karo has fought GSP before I think 3 or 4 years ago and wants a rematch give fitch a rematch with the nobody’s he has fought.
FITCH DESERVES A TITLE SHOT!
WHY????
Wow. A buddy of mine met Fitch a few weeks ago and said he was a class act. According to my friend Fitch said he called out Karo and nothing came back.
I would prefer to see Karo v. Fitch. Only because my two favs at 170 just happen to be Fitch and GSP… and i really don’t want to see that fight just yet.
Set up Fitch v. Karo.. GSP vs. Nick Diaz.
I don’t know what the problem is with Big Diaz but that would be a huge fight. Especially in my view of Diaz after his win over Gomi. Diaz is top 10 in WW. A pure heart fighter, win or lose always brings a fight.
I am not really sure Fitch deserves anything. Most of the fighters he has beat have been unknowns. But when you look at the top of the WW division the only two who could possibly fight for the title are Fitch/Karo. As for who deserves it more I dont think it matters. Either one is gonna get taken out if GSP is the champ.
they both derserve title shots they might just line them up, have fitch fight first then if karo does win feed him a easy win i see by dec karo will have his shot by the end of the year or should i say both of them
[quote comment=”298867″][quote post=”4842″]All we can do now is keep our fingers crossed that Thiago Alvez beats Karo. [/quote]
Alves has a good shot in this fight. Alves has beaten Lytle, DeSouza and Marcus Davis (back in 2003). Alves can definitely pull off the upset.[/quote]
I agree. Alves is no push over, the guy has got serious skillz. It should make for a great fight…that will end in a hard fought decision.
i think he’ll get the shot before karo
Tough opponents!!!!!!!!
Karo Hughes Serra
Fitch gotta to beat one of these 3 guys (tough opponents?) before the title shot.
Diego had 19 in a row…
GSP has only 2 in a row; Koscheck & Hughes.
Its not how many you beat its WHO you beat.
The “Tough” Wilson will upset the “14 in a row guy” 1rd by Submission.
cant sleep on Chris Wilson, he’s a tough dude, and could upset Fitch, i hope he doesnt…just cant look past him..but yes if he beats Wilson he gets the shot…in the UFC he has beaten Alves, Burkman, Diego, Larson (first to beat him), Luigi, and schooled Hironoka…thats alot better and more decisive wins than anyone else, especially Karo…he is #1 contender if he wins this fight…Karo still has to beat Diego or Kos or Swick to be 2nd or 3rd or even 4th in line behind Fitch
Stop using the word “real” and use the proper word “really”. Ie. “It should be real interesting to see how this all unfolds..”
y the hell would he get a title shot? who is jon’s biggest fight against? i don’t think he should get a title shot b4 karo. karo made his dues and should get a title shot. wow jon won 7 in a row in the ufc. name the fighters he has fought. i think jon is a boring. karo will give more of a show. jon will get takedown and he will b lost. fight over! if karo fights gsp i know it would b a better fight then gsp vs fitch. come on fitch hasn’t payed his dues yet. give him some harder fight a couple in the top 10 and c how he holds up. but he is for sure not ready yet. if gsp fought jon fitch he will spend most of the fight on his back. jon would i mean. if its karo who fight gsp there will b stand up. but there won’t b if it’s against fitch. gsp took josh Kos down at will and isn’t kos a better wrestler then fitch. on paper he is. i say kos vs fitch and gsp vs karo. on the same card. fitch quit your bitching and pay your dues. u need 2 get them 2 put u up against thougher fighters first. cause i don’t think u’ve fought anyone good enough 2 give u a title shot!
I couldnt agree more with fitch.
[quote comment=”298995″]Tough opponents!!!!!!!!
Karo Hughes Serra
Fitch gotta to beat one of these 3 guys (tough opponents?) before the title shot.
Diego had 19 in a row…
GSP has only 2 in a row; Koscheck & Hughes.
Its not how many you beat its WHO you beat.
The “Tough” Wilson will upset the “14 in a row guy” 1rd by Submission.[/quote]
i agree about some of what u say but not all. fitch should fight a big name fighter but not 4 the title. and diego lost 2 josh kos. so your 19 in a row is BS. and wilson isn’t going 2 beat fitch. fitch is going 2 lay on him for 15minutes or it will b a tko. but i could b wrong. thats just my thoughts
karo doesnt deserve anything but a trip to the ifl…fitch would have the best shot at gsp not that bitch karo
Karo and Fitch should be fighting now to fight the winner of Serra v GSP
[quote comment=”298919″]Who has this guy fought that he thinks he deserves a title shot bunch of no namers other than deigo. He has not fought anyone in the top 5 and this guy thinks he deserves a title shot F that. I think he really needs to fight someone that is top tier fighter. He has won seven in a row grant it that is impressive, I guess anyone can put together streak like that if they are fighting bunch of no namers. I would like to see Karo fight GSP before this clown. Either way GSP will walk trought both the fighters. But I think Karo will be better fight. Karo has fought GSP before I think 3 or 4 years ago and wants a rematch give fitch a rematch with the nobody’s he has fought.[/quote]
Wow, does Karo have a brother that posts on here?
[quote post=”4842″]Set up Fitch v. Karo.. GSP vs. Nick Diaz.
I don’t know what the problem is with Big Diaz but that would be a huge fight. Especially in my view of Diaz after his win over Gomi. Diaz is top 10 in WW. A pure heart fighter, win or lose always brings a fight. [/quote]
That is until he signed with EliteXC. His fights against Mike Aina and KJ Noons have been less than spectacular on Nick’s part. I never heard of Mike Aina before their fight and only knew KJ Noons because he fought in the first EliteXC event on got KTFO by Charles CrazyHorse Bennett. And this is coming from someone that has the Diaz Brothers in their favorite 4 fighters. For the few that don’t know, my top favorites are Dan Henderson and Jon Fitch (and the Diaz’s).
I think i remember Sanchez doing the same thing but even longer without a title shot.
[quote comment=”299120″][quote comment=”298919″]Who has this guy fought that he thinks he deserves a title shot bunch of no namers other than deigo. He has not fought anyone in the top 5 and this guy thinks he deserves a title shot F that. I think he really needs to fight someone that is top tier fighter. He has won seven in a row grant it that is impressive, I guess anyone can put together streak like that if they are fighting bunch of no namers. I would like to see Karo fight GSP before this clown. Either way GSP will walk trought both the fighters. But I think Karo will be better fight. Karo has fought GSP before I think 3 or 4 years ago and wants a rematch give fitch a rematch with the nobody’s he has fought.[/quote]
Wow, does Karo have a brother that posts on here?
[quote post=”4842″]Set up Fitch v. Karo.. GSP vs. Nick Diaz.
I don’t know what the problem is with Big Diaz but that would be a huge fight. Especially in my view of Diaz after his win over Gomi. Diaz is top 10 in WW. A pure heart fighter, win or lose always brings a fight. [/quote]
That is until he signed with EliteXC. His fights against Mike Aina and KJ Noons have been less than spectacular on Nick’s part. I never heard of Mike Aina before their fight and only knew KJ Noons because he fought in the first EliteXC event on got KTFO by Charles CrazyHorse Bennett. And this is coming from someone that has the Diaz Brothers in their favorite 4 fighters. For the few that don’t know, my top favorites are Dan Henderson and Jon Fitch (and the Diaz’s).[/quote]
U better hope Gouveai and Leben dont read your last post!
Its a shame that Nick has looked like crap since joining EliteXc….I love him as a fighter but he better get back to his normal self because EliteXC has a lot riding on Diaz…they created a weight class just for him…He should have destroyed Aina and KJ…I was shocked and dissapointed…Hope he starts kicking ass again.
Tyson Griffin responded to Nate Diaz calling him out. Tyson said he would rather Nate get some big wins under his belt 1st…so he can gain something from beating him. Tyson also said that if the UFC wants that fight to happen, he wouldnt be opposed to it.
Question..who do u think takes it in a fight between Nate Diaz vs. Mac Danzig, if they were to fight today?
Diego did not do it in the UFC against UFC quality opposition. PLUS, take a look at Diego’s pre-ufc opposition:
Jorge Santiago, Ray Elbe, Travis Beachler, Cruz Chacon,
John Cronk, Rene Kronvold, Mike Guymon, Jake Short, Shannon Ritch, Jesus Sanchez, Juarez, Michael Johnson
I, myself, have not heard of a single one of the guys he fought. On the otherhand, before coming to the UFC Fitch had already fought the likes of:
Jeff Joslin, Shonie Carter, Solomon Hutcherson, Wilson Gouviea and Mike Pyle.
ALL of which have competed in the UFC.
So your correct, level of competition does matter. Advantage - FITCH
Let’s look at some numbers.
Karo’s record in the UFC 8-2.
Fitch’s record in the UFC 7-0.
In their last seven wins in the UFC:
Karo’s opponents have a 26-23 (53% wins) record in the UFC.
Fitch’s opponents have a 22-14 (61% wins) record in the UFC.
So it looks like Fitch’s fights have been against guys with more success while Karo’s fights have been against more seasoned quality veterans (with 2 losses to really tough guys mixed in).
There is really no argument against either guy getting a title shot. They both deserve one.
I personally think it should go to Karo. He has been around a longer than fitch (by 2 years) and I believe is more marketable. I think Karo gets the winner of GSP/Serra with a win in his next fight and fitch get loser of GSP/Serra for #1 contender.
By the way, I think this is a really good problem to have. Too many guys in line for a title shot is way better that not enough. I’m talking to you MW division.
[quote comment=”299053″]Stop using the word “real” and use the proper word “really”. Ie. “It should be real interesting to see how this all unfolds..”[/quote]
Dave, That is a “real” good observation. Thanks for posting it and sharing your extraordinary knowledge with everyone.
Sorry, I couldn’t resist the opp.
It seems like most of the people posting here are in agreement that Fitch should get the shot before Karo simply because Karo won’t fight Fitch for the #1 contendor.
Fitch called him out 11 months ago and since then Karo decided to fight Burkman and now Alves instead…..both guys Fitch alredy beat by the way.
As far as who Fitch has faught - if you think they’re nobodies, you’re showing the rest of us that you’re really not MMA fans, so please go away.
At the end of the day, Fitch wanted to fight Karo for the title shot but Karo prefers an easier fight. Therefore, he shouldn’t get his shot before Fitch
Right on! he deserves it more than anyone else in the devision aside from GSP
[quote comment=”299060″]y the hell would he get a title shot? who is jon’s biggest fight against? i don’t think he should get a title shot b4 karo. karo made his dues and should get a title shot. wow jon won 7 in a row in the ufc. name the fighters he has fought. i think jon is a boring. karo will give more of a show. jon will get takedown and he will b lost. fight over! if karo fights gsp i know it would b a better fight then gsp vs fitch. come on fitch hasn’t payed his dues yet. give him some harder fight a couple in the top 10 and c how he holds up. but he is for sure not ready yet. if gsp fought jon fitch he will spend most of the fight on his back. jon would i mean. if its karo who fight gsp there will b stand up. but there won’t b if it’s against fitch. gsp took josh Kos down at will and isn’t kos a better wrestler then fitch. on paper he is. i say kos vs fitch and gsp vs karo. on the same card. fitch quit your bitching and pay your dues. u need 2 get them 2 put u up against thougher fighters first. cause i don’t think u’ve fought anyone good enough 2 give u a title shot![/quote]
Then why does Karo keep fighting guys Fitch already beat instead of fighting Fitch!? You say Fitch hasn’t beat anyone, but Karo’s fighting the same f’n guys after Fitch already finished them.
careful what u wish for……..
This fight does nothing to furth his claim to a title shot. If Dana doesn’t think he’s earned one now, he shouldn’t after he wins against Wilson. Not to say he doesn’t deserve it right now, but this fight is meaningless for his pregression.
furth =further
I think people are given karo way to much credit here to quote Joe Lauzon “that Judo shit aint going to work” against Thiago Alves people come on he was on fire till he got to Franca he will beat Karo’s ace not to mention he’s a punk.
Fitch should get a shot but at the same time I’m feeling he needs to fight more names in this stacked division I’m just not ready to give him the torch yet maybe a match up with koschek or hughes puts him right there I am a fitch fan don’t get me wrong but even if he gets one I don’t see him having that great of a shot against a GSP Matt Serra level of an opponent and I hope I am wrong.
Go FITCH to hell with Karo
Fitch Rules!
http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?FighterID=4865
Fitch vs. GSP would be a fantastic fight.
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/topten.asp?articleid=13&zoneid=15
I’d love to see Fitch lose this one. On paper, Karo has beaten far better opponents, The best fighter Fitch has faught is Sanchez. Throwing Fitch a can doesn’t please my idea of a title-shot. Go Wilson.
I’m really looking forward to seeing a healthy and in shape Salaverry. He is deadly when he is in shape. I think he kinda came back a little too early from an injury. I forget which UFC it was but he won with a body triangle over Frykland. Made his back seize right up. Looks awfully painful. Plus he’s from Toronto so i igotta root for the home town.
John who? karo is more fun to watch, while John should be kept on the prelim card.
Guys…
The difference is this, it all comes down to Diego. Karo fought him first, and lost the most exciting fight I can think of. The match could have went either way, the last 30 seconds killed Karo as Diego got “Over-thrown” and Diego ended up in a dominant position.
Diego lost to Kos which must have mentally screwed with him, he was stupid to take the fight what did he have to gain from beating the guy again for the third time…
I believe if Fitch were to have replaced Karo that night Fitch would have ended up with a L.
Now I am not saying give Karo the match but look at it this way (he beat Serra and went the distance with GSP).
Of the two guys they are fighting who is the better fighter Alves or Wilson… I would say Alves is. It will be a hell of a fight and Alves will lose the decision. But it very well could make for a good excuse to have Karo fight for the title.
If Wilson is “TOUGH” and Fitch doesnt make an exciting fight or Drags it out he wont get the shot…
Look at thier last two fights, Karo fought the guy who beat Anderson Silva for gods sake. Karo is picking the right fights and being smart about it, or atleast I hope so.
Nate Diaz would get killed vs Danzig, Diaz lucked out vs Manny and he knows it.
Division WW after title match (I can see these fights happening… )
GSP will fight Karo (Karos got a Name)
Hughs will fight Serra ($$$ cause of the Grudge TUF6)
Koscheck will fight Ryo Chonnan (Boring, Kos will believe he can win this fight)
Swick will fight Diego Sanchez (If Sanchez stays ww then swick will choose to fight Diego cause his two buddies beat him and it would be icing on the cake)
Burkman will fight Jared Rollins (What A Battle… Burkman should look and ask for it, there is no real risk and it would be a brawl)
Matt Arroyo will fight Thiago Alves (Alves will wanna take an easier fight just to establish his position in the ladder)
Warmachine will fight Jonathan Goulet (Cookie cutter fighters, they kinda remind me of each other.)
Fitch will take the winner of Karo and GSP (Because there really isnt anyone else in the divison he can fight KOS/Swick are nono’s).
[quote comment=”299444″]Guys…
The difference is this, it all comes down to Diego. Karo fought him first, and lost the most exciting fight I can think of. The match could have went either way, the last 30 seconds killed Karo as Diego got “Over-thrown” and Diego ended up in a dominant position.
Diego lost to Kos which must have mentally screwed with him, he was stupid to take the fight what did he have to gain from beating the guy again for the third time…
I believe if Fitch were to have replaced Karo that night Fitch would have ended up with a L.
Now I am not saying give Karo the match but look at it this way (he beat Serra and went the distance with GSP).
Of the two guys they are fighting who is the better fighter Alves or Wilson… I would say Alves is. It will be a hell of a fight and Alves will lose the decision. But it very well could make for a good excuse to have Karo fight for the title.
If Wilson is “TOUGH” and Fitch doesnt make an exciting fight or Drags it out he wont get the shot…
Look at thier last two fights, Karo fought the guy who beat Anderson Silva for gods sake. Karo is picking the right fights and being smart about it, or atleast I hope so.
Nate Diaz would get killed vs Danzig, Diaz lucked out vs Manny and he knows it.
Division WW after title match (I can see these fights happening… )
GSP will fight Karo (Karos got a Name)
Hughs will fight Serra ($$$ cause of the Grudge TUF6)
Koscheck will fight Ryo Chonnan (Boring, Kos will believe he can win this fight)
Swick will fight Diego Sanchez (If Sanchez stays ww then swick will choose to fight Diego cause his two buddies beat him and it would be icing on the cake)
Burkman will fight Jared Rollins (What A Battle… Burkman should look and ask for it, there is no real risk and it would be a brawl)
Matt Arroyo will fight Thiago Alves (Alves will wanna take an easier fight just to establish his position in the ladder)
Warmachine will fight Jonathan Goulet (Cookie cutter fighters, they kinda remind me of each other.)
Fitch will take the winner of Karo and GSP (Because there really isnt anyone else in the divison he can fight KOS/Swick are nono’s).[/quote]
Dude, Fitch already TKO’d Alves. Karo could have made it easy and faught Fitch, but he didn’t. That’s what it really comes down to. Karo doesn’t deserve a shot
I’m tired of people saying he had his shot. He did…he didn’t get it, then lost. Fitch hasn’t lost in the UFC….Nuf Said!
[quote comment=”298830″]Andy: I stopped responding to that dudes posts a long time ago. There is no hope for him. His screename: OrtizBaby is proof of that. lol[quote comment=”298796″][quote comment=”298790″][quote comment=”298780″][quote comment=”298768″]I have a feeling he will be awarded a title shot before Karo does. Fitch vs. GSP in a 5 round title match is the biggest possible match at this point in time in the uFC’s welter weight division…I expect that fight to go down in August or September.[/quote]
that would be a cool fight - but i dont think casual fans still know who fitch is that well - give him matt hughes as a tune up and i think he’ll be the poster boy if he wins. either way, if karo and fitch win, one of them should fight hughes unless hughes has different plans i guess[/quote]
Insain: IF GSP wins, Hughes will be tied up fighting Serra. Fitch needs a title shot right away after his next fight.
ToeLock: I dont think they could have a #1 contender match between Karo and Fitch…if they have that, then who will fight for the title? If Karo vs. Fitch is to happen, it will happen in August and it will leave no contender for the winner of GSP/Serra which would mean that we wouldnt get to see another title defense in the welterweight division until next December! Do u still want to see Karo vs. Fitch now? I dont![/quote]
IF GSP wins.[/quote]
Insain: u r right about that. It is a big “If” but since he is th best welterweight in the world and the favorite in this match up, I will continue to speculate as if GSP were to win. I am a big Serra fan as well, so I am not hating….I just call it like I see it![/quote]
John you not responding to me means nothing,if you need to know karo is one who definatly deserves a title shot before he does,but dont resond to me i just wanted to get a point across to you.
[quote comment=”298825″][quote post=”4842″]Fitch…are you crazy….who has he fought to deserve a title shot,he should just be lucky hes getting fight night matches cause he is not a contender yet! [/quote]
What is your criteria for being a contender? 14 wins in a row isn’t enough (7 in ufc)? He has victories over Sanchez, Alves and Burkman. I would be curious to hear who you think is deserving of a title shot.
Fitch deserves to be next in line if he can get past Wilson. Karo ducking Fitch bothers me. The UFC shouldn’t reward Karo for being a pussy.[/quote]
andy the reason i said he doesent deserve a title shot is because i still think he needs to fight karo to prove that he is a true contender,now please dont get me wrong fitch is a good fighter and i think that he will do great in that class but i feel that he needs to beat a bigger name in the business first.
[quote comment=”299060″]y the hell would he get a title shot? who is jon’s biggest fight against? i don’t think he should get a title shot b4 karo. karo made his dues and should get a title shot. wow jon won 7 in a row in the ufc. name the fighters he has fought. i think jon is a boring. karo will give more of a show. jon will get takedown and he will b lost. fight over! if karo fights gsp i know it would b a better fight then gsp vs fitch. come on fitch hasn’t payed his dues yet. give him some harder fight a couple in the top 10 and c how he holds up. but he is for sure not ready yet. if gsp fought jon fitch he will spend most of the fight on his back. jon would i mean. if its karo who fight gsp there will b stand up. but there won’t b if it’s against fitch. gsp took josh Kos down at will and isn’t kos a better wrestler then fitch. on paper he is. i say kos vs fitch and gsp vs karo. on the same card. fitch quit your bitching and pay your dues. u need 2 get them 2 put u up against thougher fighters first. cause i don’t think u’ve fought anyone good enough 2 give u a title shot![/quote]
[quote comment=”299069″][quote comment=”298995″]Tough opponents!!!!!!!!
Karo Hughes Serra
Fitch gotta to beat one of these 3 guys (tough opponents?) before the title shot.
Diego had 19 in a row…
GSP has only 2 in a row; Koscheck & Hughes.
Its not how many you beat its WHO you beat.
The “Tough” Wilson will upset the “14 in a row guy” 1rd by Submission.[/quote]
i agree about some of what u say but not all. fitch should fight a big name fighter but not 4 the title. and diego lost 2 josh kos. so your 19 in a row is BS. and wilson isn’t going 2 beat fitch. fitch is going 2 lay on him for 15minutes or it will b a tko. but i could b wrong. thats just my thoughts[/quote]
“Fitch quit your bitching”…that’s the spirit of it!
Fithc does deserve it. It ain’t his fault the UFC hasnt given him Karo or soemthing, he’s beat Diego, taht’s a pretty big name, and with the exception of Diego, he has steamrolled everybody rather nicely. Fitch is undefeated, that already makes it more intersting than Karo vs. GSP.
Besides, GSP has already beat Karo, in GSP’s DEBUT.
[quote comment=”298768″]I have a feeling he will be awarded a title shot before Karo does. Fitch vs. GSP in a 5 round title match is the biggest possible match at this point in time in the uFC’s welter weight division…I expect that fight to go down in August or September.[/quote]
Definitely! Fitch vs. GSP would be quite a fight. Fitch might be the only guy who can physically match up on the ground. I don’t think he can stand and strike with GSP though. Of course it all depends on which GSP shows up as they say.