FIRST baby lol

OK sorry… Tim would’ve known instantly how deep and effective the choke form Minotauro was. If it hadn’t been so deep or tight I’m sure he would’ve tried to get out and not tapped. Yushin Okami ought to concentrate on his fights instead of running his mouth. How would he get on with a 230lb MMA LEGEND wrapped around his neck I wonder!!

“That seems like the American style?” Maybe he should rewatch the Franklin fight where Rich didnt tap. Or better yet, watch more of his own fights and see where he wont engage in fighting.

He just made my shit list!

Evan Tanner will submit this clown by rubbing a California roll into his eye socket.

Its ok, he will get KTFO by Tanner!

If it’s the American style to tap early, then its the Japanese style to not finish a fight.

lol Yushin is gonna get hell for this.

I hope tanner puts him in a body bag..

maybe he is mad at all the blatant Japanese disprespect going on…

“this ain’t Japan” etc…

(No sh*t, no hits to the face on the ground with knees and kicks)

He just made my fan list…

Look for Okami to send Tanner back on the wagon riding to his sinking ship…

I hope Tanner comes out carrying an American flag and a body bag.

[quote comment="297744"]I hope Tanner comes out carrying an American flag and a body bag.[/quote]
That would be pimp. 90’s Undertaker style.

Speaking of Japanese fighters the very first card for WVR(World Victory Road) is looking insane. As reported on this site they have signed Gomi and he is going to fight on their first card (March 05) along with Barnett vs Yoshida. Holy crap talk about an awesome event already as long as they get someone good to fight against Gomi.

This pains me to say but I have to agree with Dana! I am tired of some of the top level fighters in the world fight crap opponents. I mean Gomi’s last fight was against Nick but he really lost like the fact that got over turned to a NC because of pot is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Since when is pot a performance enchancing drug. Anyways, the best thing for this sport is for the best to fight the best. Whether that is in the UFC or not I could careless.

i guess some fighters just don’t want to risk brain damage by not tapping and going to sleep. yeah… being vegetable is so worth being able to say “i didn’t tap!”

Tanner = dead okami

I was surprised how soon Tim tapped, too. Does anyone agree? Okami still shouldn’t have said it was an American style, though.

Wrong thing to say but let’s be serious. Tanner is not gonna smash Okami. Tanner hasn’t fought in a long time and Okami is 5-1 in his last 6 fights. That decision lost to Rich Franklin would’ve been a win had Okami been aggressive from round 1 instead of round 3.

Evan if you can’t beat this guy normally then just hit him with one of your Wild Turkey bottles!

War Tanner!!

Charlie – LOL – too funny

hope “round eye” crushes him!

Pretty lame comment. I know hope he loses. Sylvia is the guy who complained about a fight being stopped with his arm broken in two.

[quote comment="297757"]Evan if you can’t beat this guy normally then just hit him with one of your Wild Turkey bottles![/quote]

I think everyone is going a bit over the top here i suspect quite a lot was lost in translation. Maybe he means it that the American fighters know when they’re caught.

War Okami!!!!
Destroy Tanner

I think that’s funny as hell. I don’t think he should have said American style, but he was right about the quick tap Tim. But you do always hear Americans saying that when you fight a Japanese fighter, that they have the spirit of the warrior and never quit. I am sure they say that 4 a reason, it’s not that there are no tough to the bone fighters in US, but maybe just in smaller %….

Looks like Big Timmy’s found some love here. lol

Apparently he missed UFC countdown last week where it showed Sylvia getting his arm broken by Mir about 2,745,095 times.

[quote comment="297754"]I was surprised how soon Tim tapped, too. Does anyone agree? Okami still shouldn’t have said it was an American style, though.[/quote]
in those types of submission specially if its in deep (like our favorite mma commentator says)you only have a few seconds to tap, it aint no kimura, or arm bar that you can sit and think “wonder if i can get out of this”. also guillotines hurt like hell your adams apple gets twisted and it feels like its going to come out of your neck. besides im sure if it where any less of a fighter Tim would of tried to get out but i think it took him .50 seconds to realize Nog wasnt gonna let go.

not saying that kimura and armbar dont hurt but you can get your arm wrecked and not tap and continue fighting but you cant avoid going nite nite

I disagree with his statement.

dumb comment..but to be fair to Okami, in his original bloq he did say “haha” with a weird smiley face afterward..i dont think he was trying to be mean..but yeah Rich is American, fought through a kimura, didnt tap, then rained down some shots for okamis efforts, so he should know better than anyone that thats a foolish statement…

“American Style”…funny. Funny how there’s so many Japanese “fighters” gettin schooled by U.S. fighters. Lets see, Caol Uno, Dokonjonosuke Mishima, Keita Nakamura, Michihiro Omigawa, Naoyuki Kotani,…..the list goes on and on folks. Hell, even Takanori Gomi, one of Japan’s premier fighters doesn’t want a piece of the boys in the UFC. Japanese fighters have been making a living off of losing fights to us cowboys. Now Okami might be an exception to the rule, but Japanese fighters on a whole compared to our boys are just plain week. No strength, no stamina and no heart. They get worked just about every time they gotta face one of the good’ol boys. What a punk ass statement.

War Tanner runnin his fist through Okami’s face and waving Old Glory!

It’s easy for him to talk smack when he’ll never have to get in the cage with Big Tim.

also japanese fighters tap out quick aswell, look no further than Diaz vs Gomi..theres no shame in tapping early if you know you cant get out..Tim knows this after Mir broke his arm, if the hold is applied properly, you are done..look at Tommy Speers, he didnt tap to warmachine or Saunders, but tapped to Danzig becuase he knew he was done

UFC 85, Tap First!

Main event:

Sylvia vs. Okami

Undercard:

Dana White vs. Tito Ortiz

no wait,

Undercard:

Dana White vs. Arlovski

Okami just lost any American fans he had(not that he had many). He needs a P.R. guy to keep him from saying stupid crap like that.

I actually feel kind of bad for Timmy. He lets Mir break his arm and everyone gets on him for not tapping. He taps quick, now everyone is giving him crap for that. It looked like a quick tap, but Big Nog didn’t have me in a guillotine.

Untill Yushin Okami can actually have an exciting match, I don’t care what he says. Period.

I’d love to see Tanner win via guillotine.

[quote comment="297820"]no wait,

Undercard:

Dana White vs. Arlovski[/quote]

There’s one that I’d actually consider paying money to see. LOL!

Evan Tanner is going to waste Okami. Everyone talks about how strong Yushin is…wait until Evan clinches him up.

[quote comment="297830"][quote comment="297820"]no wait,

Undercard:

Dana White vs. Arlovski[/quote]

There’s one that I’d actually consider paying money to see. LOL![/quote]

Or should I say hopefully see…Undercard…may not be televised! LOL!!

This might be the extra motivation that Tanner needs. Let’s hope so!!!!

Okami is a moron. I hope tanner’s drunk ass beats the crap out of him.

[quote post="4837"]“That seems like the American style?” Maybe he should rewatch the Franklin fight where Rich didnt tap. Or better yet, watch more of his own fights and see where he wont engage in fighting.[/quote]

Rich Franklin got submitted? When was that? To my knowledge he’s been TKO’d by strikes in all 3 of his losses (Silva and Machida).

I really wanna see tanner smash his face in now…Not that i needed much incentive before.

And so far as tim tapping early he learned from the mir and arlovski subs that its smarter to tap and be able to walk out on his own volition than have to be carried out..and Nog has a penchant for putting his opponents to sleep…Inou for example

Stupid comment from a great fighter. I would still give Okami the edge against Tanner, but it will make my day if Tanner pulls out the win. Okami is a heel-for-life.

Ahhh, the Okami kimura. I was thinking a choke where he went to sleep…

This weeks news Sucks! Its so bad, that Yushin Okami’s the most boring good UFC fighter..has made headlines! Why not talk about the rumored fight between Jardine vs. Wanderlei at UFC 84?

If yushin Okam i fights a boring fight against Tanner, then there is no hope for him, and he should never fight in the UFC again. There are a million great wrestlers out there that can take anyone down,
keep em down, and do nothing….we dont need that from Okami.

I can see where he is coming from on calling Timmy out for the quick tap. That choke will take atleast 8sec to make you black out when you dont have a arm in. Arm in WAYYYYYY longer. Dont get me wrong it doesnt feel good but you have plenty of time to fight for hand control or atleast try too. Tim plain and simple QUIT!

If that’s the American style, then what’s the Japanese style?… putting on boring fights and not finishing them?

To be fair, his comments may have just been a misfortunate mistranslation. The Japanese are famous for that. Remember Donkey Kong.

I hope Tanner shoves a beer can up his ass. Why would someone who has only won against TUF losers talk shit.

LISTEN EVERYONE! I’M A JAPANESE AMERICAN AND I READ THE OKAMI’S BLOG IN JAPANESE. If I were to translate his statement directly, he said something like, “Tim’s tap was as fast as America,” which really doesn’t make any sense in English so whoever translated said it was an American style. I think what Okami meant was America is fast-paced and Tim tapped as fast as fast-paced America. I know it doesn’t make much sense but that’s what he said. Anyway, I think a lot was lost in translation.

his style is hitting like a girl. he cant finish fights. he had swick mounted for over a full minute and swick took nearly no damage. do something worth talking about before u start talking.

[quote comment="297865"]LISTEN EVERYONE! I’M A JAPANESE AMERICAN AND I READ THE OKAMI’S BLOG IN JAPANESE. If I were to translate his statement directly, he said something like, “Tim’s tap was as fast as America,” which really doesn’t make any sense in English so whoever translated said it was an American style. I think what Okami meant was America is fast-paced and Tim tapped as fast as fast-paced America. I know it doesn’t make much sense but that’s what he said. Anyway, I think a lot was lost in translation.[/quote]

Thats what i figured. besides translated japanese to english isn’t easy. there is alot in the way that they write that we can’t really convey in our language.

OK, so he sums up Americans as the one guy all UCF (mostly American) Fans Hate. I don’t know one person that likes Sylvia. Not only that, but I know people who only rooted for Mir because he broke Tim’s arm. I personally thought Sylvia taped quickly too, but I considered it the inexperienced ground fighter way. I hope he gets tapped quickly…

Hey JOHN,

BetUs has the Kos/Hazelett fight on it opening at plus 350. I jumped on it before the bandwagon hits. But I know that you go else where, are you seeing any bigger odds on this one? Playground is plus 550, but they’re odds are never exactly in line with the REAL betting odds.

im a white american, i think what he said is funny.. japanese just train differently and they laugh at the way we do things.. its the same on how we laugh at them.. good for him for saying it . kudos okami

[quote comment="297883"]OK, so he sums up Americans as the one guy all UCF (mostly American) Fans Hate. I don’t know one person that likes Sylvia. Not only that, but I know people who only rooted for Mir because he broke Tim’s arm. I personally thought Sylvia taped quickly too, but I considered it the inexperienced ground fighter way. I hope he gets tapped quickly…[/quote]

LOL, I agree, no one should be tapped that quickly with an Arm in the chock like that, He just gave up, but If thats what Okami ment to say then he’s callow.

lmao thats pretty funny. “The american style”. I’ll be the first one to tell Yushin Okami, that Big Timmy does not represent any of us, especially me, in America. Never will I whine/cry/make excuses about losing nor fight like a bitch against guys 2 times smaller than me.

[quote comment="297888"]Hey JOHN,

BetUs has the Kos/Hazelett fight on it opening at plus 350. I jumped on it before the bandwagon hits. But I know that you go else where, are you seeing any bigger odds on this one? Playground is plus 550, but they’re odds are never exactly in line with the REAL betting odds.[/quote]

The Hazelett bandwagon will take out about 2 weeks before UFC 82, and I welcome them all aboard when Little D takes out Big Koscheck.

Mike, did you know on Playground, Chris Wilson was at a 800 I believe? That is a bet, I am throwing all kinda of money on.

[quote comment="297888"]Hey JOHN,

BetUs has the Kos/Hazelett fight on it opening at plus 350. I jumped on it before the bandwagon hits. But I know that you go else where, are you seeing any bigger odds on this one? Playground is plus 550, but they’re odds are never exactly in line with the REAL betting odds.[/quote]

No, I primarily bet with BETUS because I usually bet the main fights. I just went with that other site last weekend because I wanted to bet small amounts on all the fights…I will probably never use that method again. Since UFC 82 has big match ups from top to bottom, I expect BetUS to have odds for many of this events fights…Im throwing sum chump change on McLovin…why not? Bet $25 and you could win back close to $100…. Thanks for the heads up MIKE…I am betting on those odds before they go down for sure.

Sorry to go off topic, but I was just laughing at my response in another thread, that is rather old and stale. The subject was Frank Mir seeing white flashes when getting GnP’d by Lesnar.

“I think that those white flashes Mir was seeing was simply him seing Brock Lesnar’s skin up close and personal for the first time. Brock can give Dave Strasser a run for his money as far as whiteness is concerned.”

Sorry for any inconvenience this may cause on this thread.

[quote comment="297905"]Sorry to go off topic, but I was just laughing at my response in another thread, that is rather old and stale. The subject was Frank Mir seeing white flashes when getting GnP’d by Lesnar.

“I think that those white flashes Mir was seeing was simply him seing Brock Lesnar’s skin up close and personal for the first time. Brock can give Dave Strasser a run for his money as far as whiteness is concerned.”

Sorry for any inconvenience this may cause on this thread.[/quote]

If you’re going to go “off topic” at least try and be funny.

“thats the american way” OUCH, he jus punked the americans…someone needs to step up to that remark EH!!!

Tanner has been going downhill for a while. Okami is gonna take him down and most likely finish him. As for what he said give the guy a break. Someone else translated his words and not all things translate exactly as they are said.

[quote comment="297938"]Tanner has been going downhill for a while. Okami is gonna take him down and most likely finish him. As for what he said give the guy a break. Someone else translated his words and not all things translate exactly as they are said.[/quote]
I did. This is what I said: “LISTEN EVERYONE! I’M A JAPANESE AMERICAN AND I READ THE OKAMI’S BLOG IN JAPANESE. If I were to translate his statement directly, he said something like, “Tim’s tap was as fast as America,” which really doesn’t make any sense in English so whoever translated said it was an American style. I think what Okami meant was America is fast-paced and Tim tapped as fast as fast-paced America. I know it doesn’t make much sense but that’s what he said. Anyway, I think a lot was lost in translation.”

well okami, whats the japanese way, sit on someone and wait out a decision victory?

I’ve been put in a million chokes and I’ve gone out before, guys who tap due to chokes don’t deserve to fight.
The only reason to tap to a chke is windpipe damage.

Okami = My Buddy!

I find it funny when someone here already explained what Yushin meant to say (shu) and was lost in translation for this article, and ppl still keep bashing him (for the exception of maybe two ppl). Maybe the American way is not to give up quickly, but to shoot first ask questions later, once the question has been answered keep shooting…

i cant believe how many people think tanner is gonna win, do any of you bet with bodog? can you please hurry and place your bets and turn okami into the underdog so i can put my money down

Just like my call sign…… some people are just too dumb to tap out. I thought this name up after watching Silvia get his arm broken a few years ago (& we were constantly reminded of it with the previews to the last PPV). I think it is actually good that big dumb Timmy finally learned something. If the hold is in deep, no point in trying to man through it. I think it is dumb to go to sleep or to get something broken. I am all for the fighting spirit, and trying to get out of something but when the hold is in, give up and show some respect to your opponent who doesn’t really want to break your arm, or neck.
Another example was Gracie and Hughes…. only Hughes was too nice to actually break Gracies arm. He said he could of, but didn’t want to.

[quote comment="297905"]Sorry to go off topic, but I was just laughing at my response in another thread, that is rather old and stale. The subject was Frank Mir seeing white flashes when getting GnP’d by Lesnar.

“I think that those white flashes Mir was seeing was simply him seing Brock Lesnar’s skin up close and personal for the first time. Brock can give Dave Strasser a run for his money as far as whiteness is concerned.”

Sorry for any inconvenience this may cause on this thread.[/quote]

Speaking of the milkman Strasser..Check out how Paul “Semtex” Daley destroyed him at Cage Rage: critical condition. Its the same event that Anderson Silva KO (I forget his name) with that nasty never b4 seen reverse uppercutt Elbow, or what ever the hell that technique is called. Daley reminds me of a young “wet behind the ears” Anderson Silva…it was a really entertainig fight. As a matter of fact, that Cage Rage DVD was being sold in BestBuy. I bring that up because I have never seen any other Cage Rage events sold at BestBuy or FYE.

Okami is going to whip that drunk Tanner. Now I can’t hold it against anyone for being a booze hound, but he’s going to take a beating. Okami by TKO (Strikes) rd 2.

[quote comment="297775"][quote comment="297757"]Evan if you can’t beat this guy normally then just hit him with one of your Wild Turkey bottles![/quote]

I think everyone is going a bit over the top here i suspect quite a lot was lost in translation. Maybe he means it that the American fighters know when they’re caught.[/quote]

i agree. i don’t think he is that dumb. his fucking boss is an american! maybe his traslator is on crack or something. i’m pretty sure he didn’t mean that.

[quote comment="297729"]Evan Tanner will submit this clown by rubbing a California roll into his eye socket.[/quote]

That’s fantastic!

i hear alot of disrespect given to okami but what he is getting at is the fact the most japanese fighters will actually go to sleep before they tap. they wont blet an arm snap but they will go to sleep and in fairness tim did tap fast he didnt seem to be able to defend but in fairness big tim doesnt concentrate alot on defence of chokes. in fact the only time he would have done so before was in training for monson. as far as the tanner fight i couldnt go against okami! okami by tko

[quote comment="297927"][quote comment="297905"]Sorry to go off topic, but I was just laughing at my response in another thread, that is rather old and stale. The subject was Frank Mir seeing white flashes when getting GnP’d by Lesnar.

“I think that those white flashes Mir was seeing was simply him seing Brock Lesnar’s skin up close and personal for the first time. Brock can give Dave Strasser a run for his money as far as whiteness is concerned.”

Sorry for any inconvenience this may cause on this thread.[/quote]

If you’re going to go “off topic” at least try and be funny.[/quote]

as a fan of lesnar, i thought it was funny. grow a sense of humor. Brock looks like every other person from minnesota, pasty and white from not seeing the sun for 6 months out of the year. he probably gave Mir a sunburn from the light reflecting off his skin.

Can’t wait for Okami to munch on Evan Tanner’s fists! Or better yet…maybe he can submit this sushi eating piece of garbage and make him quit. The Japanese have a style of fighting too..its called booooooooring…I have never seen a fighter from there that was exciting…watching Okami fight is like watching paint dry!

wow, he seemed to go out of his way to take a shot at Americans. What a prick, comparing me to Tim Sylvia. I wonder if he was referring strictly to MMA, or everything in general. Maybe he should read up on some American History. After that comment, I am no longer a fan.

I guess the “Japanesse style” is not finishing fights.

Do you know how many Americans bash on other countries? If you’re surprised that Japanese people look down upon America, let alone Korea, China, Canada, and basically the rest of the world, then you really need to understand how countries look at other countries. We look at Japanese fighters as if they are boring, lackluster, weak fighters. While Japan looks at America as fat, overweight, redneck brawlers. If you really understood how bad Brazil, Russia, and Asia looked at us, Okami’s comment wouldn’t even phase you.

yes what he said was out of line, and pretty controversial, but you can’t hang on to every word these guy’s say, because most of them don’t really care/ don’t really mean what people intend.

Man.. okami.. he is gonna catch flack for that for sure.. Im sure tanner will use that to make it personal.. I would like to see tanner in the mix tho. maybe a tanner vs. franklin down the road? Would that be 2 or 3?

No he has every right to make fun of American fighters. Pretty much every titleholder is Japane…oh wait, none of them are.

[quote comment="298225"]Do you know how many Americans bash on other countries? If you’re surprised that Japanese people look down upon America, let alone Korea, China, Canada, and basically the rest of the world, then you really need to understand how countries look at other countries. We look at Japanese fighters as if they are boring, lackluster, weak fighters. While Japan looks at America as fat, overweight, redneck brawlers. If you really understood how bad Brazil, Russia, and Asia looked at us, Okami’s comment wouldn’t even phase you.

yes what he said was out of line, and pretty controversial, but you can’t hang on to every word these guy’s say, because most of them don’t really care/ don’t really mean what people intend.[/quote]

I know how most other countries think of America, hell, with things going on currently, I would agree with many things that people could say about us. But to say a general statement about us being quitters is very arrogant, and stupid. I don’t pretend to know everything about Japan, Korea, China or Canada, but I work with people from every one of those countries, and they are all good friends of mine too. Hell, my aunt married an Iranian last month.

My point is you should not have an opinion about all people in a single country because of the actions of a few people in that country.

In any case, I disagree with Okami, he basically is saying that Tim has no heart, Tim has a ton of heart. He may be a boring fighter, but he does have heart. Show me one person that didn’t tap out from a serious Nog submission.

You guys sort of expose yourself as stereotypical “ugly Americans” when you say stuff like “lol Tanner is going to rub a California Roll in his eye lol!” Yeah, that’s hilarious. What’s even funnier is that you guys actually think Tanner has any chance of getting the win here.

[quote comment="297729"]Evan Tanner will submit this clown by rubbing a California roll into his eye socket.[/quote]

ださい

i’ve been to china and japan and they make it clear they do not like americans,so the comment is no suprise.tanner will be lucky if he can win,franklin beat okami,franklin demolished tanner.

[quote comment="297815"]also japanese fighters tap out quick aswell, look no further than Diaz vs Gomi..theres no shame in tapping early if you know you cant get out..Tim knows this after Mir broke his arm, if the hold is applied properly, you are done..look at Tommy Speers, he didnt tap to warmachine or Saunders, but tapped to Danzig becuase he knew he was done[/quote]
Tommy Speers is a great example!!!

[quote comment="298403"][quote comment="297729"]Evan Tanner will submit this clown by rubbing a California roll into his eye socket.[/quote]

ださい[/quote]
That means… I don’t have anything intelligent to say in response to this so I’ll just talk shit in another language that 99% of people here wont understand. Which makes it all together pointless

[quote comment="298094"][quote comment="297775"][quote comment="297757"]Evan if you can’t beat this guy normally then just hit him with one of your Wild Turkey bottles![/quote]

I think everyone is going a bit over the top here i suspect quite a lot was lost in translation. Maybe he means it that the American fighters know when they’re caught.[/quote]

i agree. i don’t think he is that dumb. his fucking boss is an american! maybe his traslator is on crack or something. i’m pretty sure he didn’t mean that.[/quote]
Thats VERY possible… it’s the media’s bread and butter to twist peoples words to create non-existent stories… anyway after all the screaming that will happen as a response to this im sure he will have to explain himself at some point.

[quote comment="297905"]Sorry to go off topic, but I was just laughing at my response in another thread, that is rather old and stale. The subject was Frank Mir seeing white flashes when getting GnP’d by Lesnar.

“I think that those white flashes Mir was seeing was simply him seing Brock Lesnar’s skin up close and personal for the first time. Brock can give Dave Strasser a run for his money as far as whiteness is concerned.”

Sorry for any inconvenience this may cause on this thread.[/quote]
VM, humor is never an inconvenience! lol

Okami is a boring fighter. no wait that is just the Japanese way.

Forrest Griffen is an American fighter. He had his arm broke. Sylvia had his arm broke. Rampage earth slammed Arona instead of tapping in a triangle. Matt Hughes carried Carlos Newton to the cage while in a triangle, slammed him and went to sleep without tapping. Jon Fitch was in a Roan Carneiro Anaconda choke, didn’t tap. A Diego guillotine and didn’t tap.

Okami doesn’t know what he is talking about. He couldn’t make Franklin tap when he snatched his arm up. So much for the American way.

[quote comment="297938"]Tanner has been going downhill for a while. Okami is gonna take him down and most likely finish him. As for what he said give the guy a break. Someone else translated his words and not all things translate exactly as they are said.[/quote]

Evan Tanner has been going down hill?
How could he have been going down hill when he has not had a fight since april of 2006. He is a self ADMITTED ADDICT AND ALCOOLIC, how could he beon the up and up if he is not fighting?

[quote comment="297894"]lmao thats pretty funny. “The american style”. I’ll be the first one to tell Yushin Okami, that Big Timmy does not represent any of us, especially me, in America. Never will I whine/cry/make excuses about losing nor fight like a bitch against guys 2 times smaller than me.[/quote]

Are you honestly saying th at Tim should be embarassed about loosing to Couture. Timmy did not look 100% vs Randy. I m not saying the outcome would be diffrent but it may have beena much different fight. Timmy is a fighter. What is so bad about the guy. He goes ou there re: of the amount of boos hea gets and tries his best to entertain the crowd. He is an ex-champ, whohas a great a game when it is there. We could have a far worse representative. I would rather have Tim represent me then Okami.[quote comment="298225"]Do you know how many Americans bash on other countries? If you’re surprised that Japanese people look down upon America, let alone Korea, China, Canada, and basically the rest of the world, then you really need to understand how countries look at other countries. We look at Japanese fighters as if they are boring, lackluster, weak fighters. While Japan looks at America as fat, overweight, redneck brawlers. If you really understood how bad Brazil, Russia, and Asia looked at us, Okami’s comment wouldn’t even phase you.

yes what he said was out of line, and pretty controversial, but you can’t hang on to every word these guy’s say, because most of them don’t really care/ don’t really mean what people intend.[/quote]

I am well aware of the act that 99% of the world bashes the USA and it’s citizens and I understand why under most circumstances. With that in mind though think about how many of the same countries would not be what they are, exsist, or even be a eating without the very same country they detest. Think about a few of the countries that you named and think about their situation. Brazil is a country where kids grow up to be gang bangers, soccer players or martial artists and livein shanty towns. Then there is Russia. If they did not get monetary aid from us they would probably be overun my mobsters and organized crime. OHH wait that already happened. I forgot the worlds largest human/child, narcotic, and weapons traffikers look down upon the USA because of our Elitest attitude. Same with Asia let us pull out as consumers and see where they are. Let the world hate! The truth of it is much of the world depends on us and needs us in some form or another. I wish the US would go back to the prinicipals on whichit was founded, mainly Isolationism. You know everyone is always crying about our actions and the things we do, our citizens, but if something happens in the world, everyone cries that the USA is not helping. The world sucks and they can bite my big red, white, and blue member. I do agree that we can be over zeaolous and a little self involved/absorbed but isn’t every country that way about themselves. Every country thinks it is the best or the right way.

[quote comment="297927"][quote comment="297905"]Sorry to go off topic, but I was just laughing at my response in another thread, that is rather old and stale. The subject was Frank Mir seeing white flashes when getting GnP’d by Lesnar.

“I think that those white flashes Mir was seeing was simply him seing Brock Lesnar’s skin up close and personal for the first time. Brock can give Dave Strasser a run for his money as far as whiteness is concerned.”

Sorry for any inconvenience this may cause on this thread.[/quote]

If you’re going to go “off topic” at least try and be funny.[/quote]

OHHHH, Pete is BACK, and its in a thread NOT about wrestling? WTF?? Pete the Hulkamaniac was who I first typed the comment in response to. This is the first non Brock Lesnar/Kurt Angle/Koko B Ware that I have seen him post on…

[quote post="4837"]as a fan of lesnar, i thought it was funny. grow a sense of humor. Brock looks like every other person from minnesota, pasty and white from not seeing the sun for 6 months out of the year. he probably gave Mir a sunburn from the light reflecting off his skin. [/quote]

Thanks kitsunex, I was actually rooting for Brock myself. I really wish that I can email this kid a virtual tissue everytime someone says anything other than “BROCK WILL BE HW CHAMP, JUST WAIT…”

[quote post="4837"]VM, humor is never an inconvenience! lol [/quote]

Chefdaddy, thanks, I’m happy to make you laugh! lol

I think that there was just one person that didn’t think it was funny. I believe he is currently on ebay bidding on Brock’s half used bottle of 2500 SPF sun block. Ok, that one wasn’t as funny, but I’m in a rush to get to a meeting….

AS everyone said…maybe it waas lost in translation, but if not, so what…

Nobody is getting all butt hurt when people say “This ain’t japan” or “Go back to Japan where the competition is easy”

and concerning Japanese vs American fighters, first off if I am not a fan of either fighter I will root for the American, that is natural, but back to the issue, Japanese are known for fighting closer to their natural weight or above (*Sakuraba, Gono when he was in Pride fought at LHW and MW, now in UFC he is doing the “American” thing of cutting weight and making WW) just goes to show some small differences…

yeah its the american style alright like how franklin didnt tap out in both submission attempts when they fougth or a perfect exampla of what he is talking about is phil baroni…that dude just chooses to pass out instead of tapping! yushin okami man i wouldnt talk since your bro gomai gave up

Wasnt he saying something like he didint attribute it to the american style? Either way who cares cuz we know that it isnt a true statement its just BS. There are some great Japanese fighters and there are great american fighters ive seen both tapout. Its the smart thing to do and i agree that if you practice mma then your probably gonna know when your screwed so why wait until you blackout before you tap thats just stupid i dont care who you are. I have never thought a fighter was better because he doesnt tap. As far as this fight goes the old Tanner would finish okami but that was like 2 or more years ago now it could go all the way. I dont see okami submitting tanner but then again who knows have to wait and see. I would want tanner to win no matter who he was fighting so i hope he takes this one.

It was an off-color comment but I’m pretty sure it was meant to be a joke (I think he followed the comment up with a smiley or emoticon of some sort). So calm down.. things like that are said all the time to and from all countries peoples and it’s not cause for a declaration or war.

I agree with Seanfu and Okami( not about the American part, just tapping quickly). Silvia is in a title fight and he taps immediately like a bitch…. c’mon, show some balls. He did not even attempt to get out of it. No wonder no body likes him – he’s nothing but a punk. He’ll get his next belt will be out of a bubble gum machine.

I hope Tanner rips him apart.

I am Japanese and looking forward to seeing Okami vs Tanner.

In good way,I think Okami wanna say Tim made as fast a decision as all americans do, for example in business situation or something like that, but of course,it possibly can be understood as insulting.
To tell the trurth,I cant understand what he really means. Because I think there are not stereotipical fighting styles of Americans. （In my opinion, they like fighting on their feet and are more aggresive.）
And if I were American, I would felt insulted..

Anyway, dont be so serious. I often read his blog and there are usually no insulting,racial, and political comments on his blog.

Yea, the American style, just like when Tim Sylvia tapped after Frank Mir snapped his arm in half. Oh no, wait, how did his arm get snapped? That’s right, he didn’t tap.

Okami sucks!@!!!!!!!@!@!@!!@!@!@1233333111111

Nog was great and showed how strong his finish was. Tim was also great in an American style to tap so quick. That’s what Okami said.

I am a Japanese MMA fan and often go to MMA threads. But I never heard or seen phrase like “american fighters tap quick”. I am not a representative of Japanese but I can confidently say that we don’t think like that.

In my opinion, tapping can never be too quick. In Japan, some people think fighters who don’t tap are brave, but that’s wrong. If he doesn’t tap, he is just too chicken to accept his loss, I think.

[quote comment="298312"][quote comment="298225"]

I know how most other countries think of America, hell, with things going on currently, I would agree with many things that people could say about us. But to say a general statement about us being quitters is very arrogant, and stupid. I don’t pretend to know everything about Japan, Korea, China or Canada, but I work with people from every one of those countries, and they are all good friends of mine too. Hell, my aunt married an Iranian last month.

My point is you should not have an opinion about all people in a single country because of the actions of a few people in that country.

In any case, I disagree with Okami, he basically is saying that Tim has no heart, Tim has a ton of heart. He may be a boring fighter, but he does have heart. Show me one person that didn’t tap out from a serious Nog submission.[/quote]

I havent worked with any of those mentioned ethnicities, but I have trained with them. Some of them are some-what known too. A buddy of mine, his names Thiago, just had a fight recently against a guy that was supposed to destroy him. He said before every session that, he is going to rip his heart out because it only beats for the first 2 minutes.

And guess what? He did, and in fashion too. I also should and can have an opinion on how other countries look at america, because of the fact, that I have lived in every mentioned country.

P.S. Thiago has nothing against Americans, but he does not like how America thinks they have the best talent pool.

just another case of mania tryin to stir the pot…

[quote comment="297820"]no wait,

Undercard:

Dana White vs. Arlovski[/quote]

Or maybe a Royal Rumble type deal:

Dana White

vs.

Randy Couture
Matt Lindland
Andrei Arlovski
Tito Ortiz
Fedor Emelianenko
Dream Stage Entertainment

How do all the Okami haters feel now? He made Evan Tanner his bitch, KO baby.

Why is everyone over reacting to Yushin’s comment on American fighters tapping out quickly? Look at all the racial & sarcastic remarks made by many of the UFC fighters about each other and their contenders. Could it be that a lot of the american fans are upset that a Japanese MMA fighter is actually moving to the top? I am half Japanese my mom is from Northern Japan, so I understand the language and culture and also their way of thinking. I know for a fact that the Japanese language is very complicated as well as the writing therefore a lot of room for misinterpretations of many words,my sisters and I had a lot of problems in schools during our elementary ages since we went to 7 different elementary schools not only w/ the language but w/the culture and morals and values of different states and countries. Please don’t take things so seriously ecspecially when a third party is doing the interpretation. Yushin is a wonderful fighter not only in the ufc but internationally.

Just a reminder: It’s a translation from Japanese to English. So stop freaking out and take it personal. If you take that as an insult then go beat up all those Palestinian and Iranian that step on the US flag….

it’s the translation. it’s just another way of saying that he gave in, not anything against the rest of the american fighters.